1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: are going to say talk about all things Trump court cases. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: There's so many, which is crazy, and I think we've 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: all kind of watched this from the sidelines and said, 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: this is a ridiculous political attack, and for the most part, 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: those of us who are looking objectively at this can 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: see exactly what's going on. I think it's hilarious to 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: kind of watch the leftist media go after him. And 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: I just have to say I have been watching what's 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: gone on with this case in New York and the 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: one day when they think that Lakeisha James is going 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: to go take all of Trump's property, Jen Saki is 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: like giddy about it. She's like, today is an exciting day. 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: I think we're all kind of excited to see what's 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: going to happen. And then all of a sudden everything changes. 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: The judgment gets slashed. He's like, I'm paying with cash. 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: Everybody sees that meme where the sunglasses come down over 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: his eyes and they're like, yeah, that's right. He's like 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: totally dunking on the leftist media. The next day, Jen 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: Saki comes out and she's like, there is a two 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: tiered justice system, which we've all kind of enjoyed. But 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: today I have with me President Trump's attorney and candidate 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: for Missouri Attorney General, Will Sharf. Well, thank you so 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: much for joining me. We want to get into all 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: of this stuff. 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's really great to be with you. 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me on. 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been, I means as stressful as this has 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: to be. I think that from especially if you're a 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: Republican and you're watching this, it has been so interesting 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: to see Donald Trump kind of rise from all of 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: these cases, especially this latest one where they were all 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: sure that they had him, and watching these people over 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: and over again, you could like go through the leftist 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: media where they're like, turns out Trump is broke, turns 36 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: out Trump is broke. Turns out Trump is broke, and 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: we're all going, I'm sorry, can you just pull out 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: a half a billion dollars out of your wallet? 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: No, he's not broken. 40 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Then X hits our true social hits, and we start 41 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: seeing that everybody on X is talking about home. Now 42 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: he's one of the five hundred richest men in the world, 43 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: and we're all kind of like, wow, he rises again. 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: So from your perspective. Obviously, we're watching this, you're living this. 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: What is this like? 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's kind of crazy. We were sort 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: of staring into the ABYSS with this bail issue or 48 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 2: this bond issue in New York at the start of 49 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: the week, and then we want to resounding victory from 50 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: the New York Appellat Division slashing the bond in half, 51 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: staying execution of some of the more extreme parts of 52 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: that judgment there, and now we're off to the races. 53 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: We're going to appeal that massive judgment in New York. 54 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: I think we have very strong grounds for appeal, and 55 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: I think we're going to win. But you sort of 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: really hit the nail on the head with a very 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: interesting point, which is that the left has time and 58 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: time again, as each of these new has come out, 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: as each new indictment has been issued, We've heard from 60 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: the left over and over again, you know, this is 61 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: going to be the case that finally brings down Donald Trump, 62 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: and this is going to be the moment when they 63 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: seize his towers and send him to prison and all 64 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: this other stuff. And what's happened time and time again 65 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: is these cases aren't worth the paper that they're printed on. 66 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: They all have very serious legal deficiencies, factual deficiencies. And 67 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: as we've fought back harder and harder and harder in court, 68 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: we've started winning more and more and more. We saw 69 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: that with a Colorado ballot access case in front of 70 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, the Left was breathlessly covering like, we're 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: going to kick him off the ballot, and he's an 72 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: insurrectionist and all this other garbage. We took it to 73 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: the US Supreme Court and one nine to nothing. So 74 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: we're hoping to rack up some more wins in the 75 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: weeks and months ahead. We need to, as President Trump 76 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: would say, keep on winning and winning and winning. But 77 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: so far, it's just been a really interesting process to 78 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: see how the media coverage and the left's reaction to 79 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: all these cases has been so divorced from reality. 80 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: And I think it's important that you bringing up the 81 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: Colorado case is interesting to me because we need to 82 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: take note now of all of these secretaries of State, 83 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: these clerics who have said, we have got to for 84 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: the safety of the American public, for the safety of democracy, 85 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: we've got to kick him off the ballot, which is 86 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: like such an oxymoron. How can you possibly say you're 87 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: going to kick somebody off the ballot and that is 88 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: securing democracy? And so I say, these people should not 89 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: be able to get away with this because you've got 90 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: people Colorado, Michigan, Jocelyn Benson. I mean, she's going to 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: be out there with Hillary Clinton today talking about this stuff. 92 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: You've got these people who are in power in elections 93 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: and they're making choices for us. They're now going to 94 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: run for a higher office. Shouldn't we be holding them accountable? 95 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one of the most outrageous ones was 96 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: was Shenna Bellow's the Secretary of State of Maine. There 97 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: was no judicial process in Maine. Shenna Bellows, who lost, 98 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: by the way to Susan Collins in a Senate race 99 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: there by about thirty points. I mean, she's basically just 100 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: a washed up political hack. She just decided to kick 101 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: President Trump off the ballot. I mean, these people think 102 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: that they are the absolute arbiters of truth and justice 103 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: and whatever, and they're doing real damage to our constitutional 104 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: republic with each of these actions. The idea that you 105 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: would strip President Trump of his constitutional right to run 106 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 2: for office, the constitutional right of every American to vote 107 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: for a presidential candidate of their choice. It's just totally 108 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: beyond the pale. And I think you're absolutely right. People 109 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: need to be held accountable for what they're doing. Well. 110 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: I think that as we watch this, the support that 111 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: he's received through this, which I think is also just 112 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: hilarious when you look at what they've done, where they've 113 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: tried to chip away at his base and they've added 114 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: and added and added, because no matter who this is, 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: this could be you, This could be the next person 116 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: that runs for office. And I think everybody he thinks, man, 117 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: this could be my kid. And you always have that 118 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: sort of when you have your first child or your 119 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: last child. You look at your kids and you're like, 120 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: maybe one of these is going to be the next president. 121 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: As we watch this, because it is so personal and 122 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: because it could be any one of our family members. 123 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: That's why I think the support has come out for 124 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: him so strong, because people go, well, wait a minute, 125 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: if they can do this to him, who's going to run? 126 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: Because who wants to be financially destroyed and have their 127 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: life roped from them? 128 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean what the left is basically saying, now 129 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: what Joe Biden and his allies are saying is that 130 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: if you stand up against us, if you oppose leftism, 131 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: if you stand up for conservative principles and conservative values, 132 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: we can try to throw you in prison. We can 133 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: try to take away every dollar you've ever earned in 134 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: your entire life. We can drag you and those close 135 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 2: to you through court case after court case after court case. 136 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: And I think the pain is the point that the putting, 137 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: putting President Trump through this pain, making him fight back 138 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: on all these different fronts, making him spend time and 139 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: energy and effort just defending himself in court. That's really 140 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: their objective here. And look, you know, I'm a former 141 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: federal prosecutor. I was a federal violent crime prosecutor in 142 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: Saint Louis. We were trained at DOJ. I mean this 143 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: is ancient history now, but we were trained that prosecutions 144 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: are never supposed to be political. They're never even supposed 145 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: to look political. The notion of a political prosecution is 146 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: just deeply corrosive to our Constitution, to the rule of law, 147 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: to the separation of powers. Well, the last poll I 148 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: saw shows that seventy five eighty percent of Americans think 149 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: these prosecutions of Trump are politically motivated. So I think 150 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: this really strung. 151 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: These people ran on it. 152 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: It's crazy, Biden said openly, you know, I'm going to 153 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: basically use the courts to prevent Trump from becoming president again. 154 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: It's just it's outrageous and despicable, and I think fortunately 155 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: the American people are waking up to it, right. 156 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean him, You've got Letitia James, Who've got Fannie Willis. 157 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: All of these people were out there saying, don't worry, 158 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: if you liked me, I will take Trump down. And 159 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: to me, I just can't imagine a world where people 160 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't come out and say okay to avoid this, to 161 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: avoid this being a president and then continuing to happen. 162 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: And like I said, most people know someone who has 163 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: run for office, whether it is county commission or governor 164 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: or president. 165 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: People know folks that want to serve. 166 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: We've always seen it as serving the people, and yet 167 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: now it has become a if you try to go 168 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: against the leftist narrative, we will destroy you. And I 169 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: mean really, having run for office myself, the way they 170 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: destroy you is just it's so nasty. 171 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 3: But this is a new level. 172 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: So take us through kind of the timeline of what 173 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: we're expecting, because I think people are very confused about 174 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: what they're looking at. We thought things were changing in Georgia. 175 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: Now Fannie Willis is still there. I heard someone talking 176 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: this morning saying, well, we'd still like her to not 177 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: prosecute this case because we think anybody else would look 178 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: at it and say we can't even bring it. So 179 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: take us on the timeline of what we're expecting. 180 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: Sure, well, I'll start with Georgia because that's where you 181 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: left off. The judge down there, Judge McAfee disqualified Nathan Wade, 182 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: the special prosecutor, essentially kicked him off the case, allowed 183 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: Fannie Willis to remain on the case, but then certified 184 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: our appeal on that issue. So we're currently appealing to 185 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: the Georgia Appellate courts issues of Fannie Willis's disqualification. I'd 186 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: also say that it's pretty clear that Fannie Willis perjured 187 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: herself numerous times on the stand in that case. She 188 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: faces very very real criminal jeopardy I believe going forward. 189 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: I mean, that case has turned into an absolute farce, 190 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 2: and fortunately, I think it's looking increasingly unlikely that that 191 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: case comes to trial before the election in twenty twenty four. 192 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: It's you know again. When that case was first announced, 193 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: the leftist media breathlessly covered it, said this will be 194 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: the case that'll bring down Donald Trump. What we've seen 195 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: since then is just a joke, a mockery of justice 196 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: with the way that Fannie Willis and her lover slash 197 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: special prosecutor handled things. The other big case sort of 198 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: on the horizon right now, April fifteenth, we go to 199 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 2: trial with Alvin Bragg's prosecution in New York. That's the 200 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: Soros funded New York DA who's prosecuting President Trump for 201 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: alleged business records violations back in twenty seventeen. A lot 202 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: of people have said that that case is the weakest 203 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: of the four criminal cases. It does appear set for trial, though, 204 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: so we expected a six week trial in New York 205 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: beginning in mid April, and that's the next big step 206 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: for our legal team. 207 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 208 00:10:54,320 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. As we look look at these cases. 209 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: You talk about these criminal cases, and I think some 210 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: of us are going, did he actually commit any type 211 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: of a crime here? 212 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: And why are they bringing these things up now? 213 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: The timing of all of this is obviously very suspicious, 214 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: which is why most of us look at this and 215 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: say these are political prosecutions. And I would say the 216 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: same thing about Letitia James. When I look at that case, 217 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute. If he was causing so 218 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: much damage to banks, to people in New York, why 219 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: now why? 220 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: You know he's been doing business there since he was 221 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: a youngster, you know, why now why go after this now? 222 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: Well, and with the New York a g case, you 223 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: know there's there was no fraud and there was no victim, 224 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: and yet he's on the hook presently. We're fighting it, obviously, 225 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: but he's on the hook for a four hundred four 226 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: hundred plus million dollar verdict for doing nothing wrong. It's 227 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: the same in this New York criminal case that's about 228 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: to go to trial. And I need to be a 229 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: little bit careful about what I say because they imposed 230 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: the gag order on President Trump and on all of us. 231 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit limited in what I can say there. 232 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: But it relates to President Trump recorded as legal retainer 233 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: payments on his personal business records, payments that he made 234 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: to one of his lawyers, Michael Cohen, And they're saying 235 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: that somehow that amounted to business records fraud. It's worth 236 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: noting I can't speak about Michael Cohen's involvement in this 237 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: case in particular, but he is going to be probably 238 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: the star witness, and he's been found by numerous courts 239 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: who have committed perjury and other contexts. So we'll see 240 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: how that plays out. But again, this is a case 241 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: where Alvin Bragg brought this what I think is just 242 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: a crazy indictment charging business records frauds because President Trump 243 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: marked off on his own personal business records payments to 244 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: his lawyer as legal retainer payments. This is a case 245 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: that the Biden Department of Justice, the Federal the Federal 246 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: Election Commission, everyone else who looked at the facts here 247 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: and who had the opportunity to prosecute it, including again 248 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: the Biden Department of Justice, passed on prosecuting it. But 249 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 2: we have a far left DA in New York, a 250 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: Soros funded DA in New York, who brought this case. 251 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: And I think the reason for that is election interference. 252 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: And we're certainly going to defend President Trump vigorously when 253 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: that gets to trial, and we're hopeful that we win it. 254 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: So what do you expect to come out of the 255 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. It looks like on April twenty fifth, they 256 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: will hear arguments over whether or not the federal charges 257 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: against Donald Trump can be dismissed. Those charges for twenty 258 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: twenty trying to overturn the election, I think, is what 259 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: they're calling it. 260 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's not really about that. It's the DC 261 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: criminal case relates to actions that President Trump took in 262 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: the aftermath of the twenty twenty election to investigate election fraud, 263 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: things like asking his Department of Justice to investigate election fraud, 264 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: talking to members of Congress and state officials about his 265 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: view of how the twenty twenty election had been fraudulent. 266 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: There's nothing criminal there. I think the charges that they've filed, 267 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: these sort of broad federal conspiracy charges, are really inapplicable 268 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: to anything they've charged him for. That having been said, 269 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: as you said, on April twenty fifth, will be at 270 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: the US Supreme Court arguing our presidential immunity appeal. We've 271 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: said that these acts that President Trump committed were very 272 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: clearly presidential acts, official acts in office. Again, things like 273 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: talking to the Department of Justice instructing them to investigate 274 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: election fraud. Those are all core presidential acts. Now, it's 275 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: been long recognized that in the civil context, a president 276 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: has immunity for after he leaves office for his official acts. 277 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: That you can't sue a president because you don't like 278 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: the way he did something in office. We believe that 279 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: the text of the Constitution, the structure of the Constitution, 280 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: and the long history of case law supports the idea 281 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: that president is also criminally immune after he leaves office. 282 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: Not for his private acts, not for taking a bribe 283 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: or killing somebody or anything like that, but for his 284 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: official acts in office. A president has to have immunity, 285 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: and without immunity, I think the presidency as an institution 286 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: is over. President Trump has said this as well. I mean, 287 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: you would see every successive president be prosecuted by his 288 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: political opponents as soon as he left office. So this 289 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: is a massive case. My colleague John Sour and I 290 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: will be arguing it in front of the US Supreme 291 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: Court on April twenty fifth, which we're really excited about. Now, 292 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: we expect a ruling from the Court on that issue 293 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: by probably mid June, mid to late June. It's important 294 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: to note, though, that while that appeal is pending, the 295 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: DC criminal prosecution cannot proceed, so that case is effectively 296 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: stalled until probably late June. And that means the chances 297 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: of that case getting to trial before election day in 298 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: November are very slim at this point in my estimation, 299 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: and I think we're going to win at the Supreme 300 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: Court and really cut out big pieces of that case anyway. 301 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: So what is the argument then, that he unlawfully used 302 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: his position as president to ask for an investigation. 303 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Essentially, what they're saying is that President Trump conspired 304 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: with others to deprive Americans of their right to have 305 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: their votes counted. He conspired to obstruct the electoral count process. 306 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: The charge there is under a highly controversial statute that 307 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: actually the Supreme Court's currently looking at in a different case. 308 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: It's things like that that, taken together, President Trump's actions 309 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: to investigate election fraud in the aftermath of the twenty 310 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: twenty election amounted to a conspiracy to deprive Americans of 311 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: their right to have their vote counted, of their right 312 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: to have the election result be one way or the other. 313 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: And then that he interfered with a congressional process, basically 314 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: with the electoral count. It's worth noting that President Trump 315 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: is accused of submitting these alternate slates of electors in 316 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: certain states or trying to build these alternate slates of electors. 317 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: That's actually the historical method used to challenge the results 318 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: of presidential elections based on fraud after the certification deadline 319 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: in states passed in eighteen seventy six. For instance, Rutherford B. 320 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: Hayes was actually elected president on the backs of three 321 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: alternate slates of electors submitted by southern states where there 322 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: were real instances of fraud. In nineteen sixty electors, an 323 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: alternate slate of electors from the state of Hawaii was 324 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: seated in the electoral count because of fraud in the 325 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 2: state of Hawaii. So nothing President Trump did here was 326 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 2: historically abnormal. Certainly nothing was illegal. But Jack Smith, the 327 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 2: Special Council, has tried to string together a case that 328 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: every opportunity has tried to rush it to trial. We 329 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 2: believe because he wants to interfere with the twenty twenty 330 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: four election. He wants to force President Trump off the 331 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: campaign trail and into a courtroom. And I think that's 332 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: just despicable. 333 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: Well, and let's talk a little bit about the electors 334 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: because they are actually elected to those positions. It's not 335 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: as though these are just a random group of people. 336 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: They're just the Republican versus Democrat. Is that correct, because 337 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: that's because we have the situation in Michigan, and so 338 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: these people are they're facing felony charges in the state 339 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: of Michigan because the Attorney general here decided to go 340 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: after them. 341 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: But they didn't. They didn't do anything. 342 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: They were there in case there was My understanding, and 343 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: you can correct me if I'm legally wrong on this, 344 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: they were there in case something happened in Michigan where 345 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: they said, Okay, there was fraud, we need to put 346 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: in that alternative slate, and they weren't trying to overturn 347 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: it without having that evidence of something had gone wrong. 348 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: You know, I think when you look at the historical 349 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: record in states like Michigan, other states, you know, George Arizona, 350 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: et cetera. What what President Trump and his team were 351 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 2: trying to do is simply preserve all of their rights 352 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: to challenge the election at every stage. And part of 353 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: that was having these slates of electors assembled so that 354 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: if they could prove up their allegations of election fraud, 355 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: they'd have the opportunity to challenge the electoral count to 356 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: challenge the seating of electors that they believe had been 357 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 2: elected through fraud. And again, that's just the historically, historically, 358 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: that's the process you used. There's nothing out of the 359 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 2: ordinary about it. I think it's absolutely shameful that we 360 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 2: have leftist prosecutors going after people whose only alleged crime, 361 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: whose only act was to you know, put their name 362 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 2: up saying that, well, if there was fraud, I want 363 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: to be part of the solution. And that's it's just 364 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: it's crazy. It's it's a way of I believe, you know, prosecuting, 365 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: persecuting political dissenters, and I think it's just wrong. 366 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: Well, and in Michigan, we're talking about people who are 367 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: in there, in some cases in their seventies and eighties, 368 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: who are facing jail time. 369 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: Well, we've seen the same with a lot of these 370 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 2: January sixth cases, where there's some people, you know, on 371 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 2: January sixth who certainly committed crimes. And I don't excuse 372 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: that there are other people, including elderly people who just 373 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: sort of showed up at the Capitol, walked in and 374 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: then as soon as they were asked to leave, walked out, 375 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: and some of them are in federal prison today. 376 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 377 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have to say I saw 378 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: the former RNC chair come out and say, well, I 379 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: think that the people who committed violent acts on January 380 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: six should stay in prison, and anybody who is arguing 381 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: that shit I don't agree with. And I've never come 382 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: out and publicly stated this. I think the people who 383 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: are arguing are arguing against those folks you're talking about, 384 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: the people that walked in that didn't do anything, that 385 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: have suddenly I had years of their lives taken from 386 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: them for being there. Some of them didn't even walk inside. 387 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, So, I met a guy in Missouri 388 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: and Vernon County, Missouri. I won't use his name because 389 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: I haven't asked his family for permission. He walked into 390 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: the capital addressed as George Washington. He didn't break anything, 391 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: he didn't attack anybody. He basically just ambled around the 392 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: capitol for seventeen minutes. A police officer approached him asked 393 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: him to leave. At that point, he left the capital. 394 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: He's now in federal prison serving a year long federal 395 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: prison sentence. I don't think he committed a crime. I 396 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: don't think you can plausibly say that there was anything 397 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: criminal about what he did. And yet the Biden administration 398 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: has been so vigorous about prosecuting these cases, about you know, 399 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: sending swat teams out to arrest people at their homes 400 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: or at their places of work. I think the point 401 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: is really the public message that they're trying to send, 402 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: which is that if you dissent against us, if you 403 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: hold different political views, we have the ability to punish you. 404 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: So you need to watch yourself. And I think that 405 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 2: it's just again speaking as a former prosecutor, you know, 406 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: the power that prosecutors have, the power that law enforcement has, 407 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: it's an awesome power. I mean I signed warrants against 408 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 2: you know, drug gangs and that sort of thing, and 409 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: then the swat team would take their door the next morning. 410 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: I mean, that's an awesome power. And when it's misused 411 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: the way that I think we've seen time and time 412 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 2: again with the Biden administration, I mean, that's end of 413 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: the republic type stuff. That's banana republic type stuff. That's 414 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 2: why it's so important. I think that we win in 415 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, up and down the ballot, and really 416 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: repudiate these leftists who feel empowered to, you know, wield 417 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: the power of government against ordinary American citizens. 418 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Well, and I think that's the frustration that we see 419 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: as we see crime rising, and we see these radical 420 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: attorneys general and prosecutors across the country that are going 421 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: after Republicans for things that are not considered crimes. It 422 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: is political prosecution going after these people. They are attacking 423 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: them because of their political views. But then, I mean, 424 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: I look at what happened during COVID here in Michigan. 425 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: Our attorney general used her powers to go after businesses. 426 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: She used her power. She had a woman who was 427 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: a legal immigrant who was just running her restaurant, but 428 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: kept her restaurant open. She had her arrested, taking one 429 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty miles from her home. She was kept 430 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: in jail for two days with chains on. It wasn't 431 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: even like she wasn't just in a jail cell. She 432 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: had chains around her waist and her your wrists and 433 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: ankles were in handcuffs attached to these chains. I mean, 434 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 1: this is like third world stuff that we're talking about 435 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: in the United States of America. This to me is 436 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: a complete overstepping of authority. But this is what they're doing, 437 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: so really quickly before I let you go. I mean, 438 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: we've listened to what you've said. It's been very, very 439 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: educational to hear what you're talking about. But also you 440 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: just sound like you really get it. So tell us 441 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: a little bit about your race. When is it? How 442 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 1: do people help you? 443 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm in my free time. Basically I'm running for. 444 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: A correct how you're doing that? 445 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: But okay, I'm a political outsider. I've never run for 446 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: office before. My background is a constitutional attorney. That's the 447 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: work I'm doing for President Trump now a former federal 448 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: violent crime prosecutor. During the Trump administration, I worked to 449 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: confirm judges and justices. I was on the teams that 450 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 2: confirmed Brett your work to confirm Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney 451 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: Barrett to the Supreme Court, worked on lower court confirmations 452 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: around the country. And I've been a conservative activist most 453 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: of my adult life. I think the situation we have 454 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: in Missouri is we just have a political establishment that's 455 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: not really answerable to the will of the people, that's 456 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: totally in hock to special interests in insiders and lobbyists, 457 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: and I think this cycle, this August, with our Republican primaries, 458 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: we have a once in a generation chance to really 459 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: break that. So I'm excited. We have Missouri's fired up 460 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: right now. Conservatives all over the state are more fired 461 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: up than I've ever seen them before. And the campaign's 462 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 2: just been an incredible experience for me just getting to 463 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 2: meet awesome conservatives all over Missouri. So we feel really 464 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 2: good about our chances. We've gotten a lot of support 465 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: and it's going to be a fun four months ahead 466 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: of us the elections August sixth, so awesome. 467 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: Well, we wish you the best of luck because we 468 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: are honestly, we watch Saint Louis because Saint Louis, Detroit, 469 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: and Memphis seem to be in a battle every year 470 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: to see which one can be the most violent city 471 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: in America. So I'm hoping that you can have an 472 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: impact on that and least change that for your state. 473 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that we've just got to lock up 474 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: violent criminals. If you lock up violent criminals, you get 475 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: less violent crime. You know who would have imagined that, 476 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 2: So it's I know it's going to be fun. 477 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a real shock. I mean I we were 478 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: just talking the other day about how the guy in 479 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: DC I think it was, who said, well, we can't 480 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: just arrest ourselves, arrest our way out of this car 481 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: jacking situation, and we're like, no, actually, you actually can. 482 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: That's exactly what you do. 483 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: Well, Will Sharp, thank you so much for being here, 484 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing all of this with us today. 485 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 3: We really appreciate it. 486 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, great to be with you. Thanks so much for having. 487 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: Me absolutely, and thank you all for listening to the podcast. 488 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: You can go to Tutor dixonpodcast dot com and subscribe 489 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: right there, or head over to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 490 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts and make sure you 491 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: join us next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 492 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 3: Have a blessing,