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Speaker 1: What do you think this summer is gonna be? Do

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Speaker 1: you think it's a brat summer? Do you think it's

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Speaker 1: a hot girl summer? What's the summer for you? It

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Speaker 1: dan's all of the above.

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have more of an abundance mindset

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Speaker 3: It's for sure. Brett Summer Part two, Part two. It's

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Speaker 3: gotta be.

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Speaker 4: It has to be.

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Speaker 3: It's the summer that I'm trying to get over my situations.

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Speaker 1: Are we decentering men this summer?

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I saw this thing on tiktook that was like, you

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Speaker 3: should live this summer like it's your last single summer,

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Speaker 3: which sounds so fun.

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Speaker 5: It's a summer of.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I based love so love in spite

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Speaker 6: of the.

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Speaker 2: World against dumerism and depression.

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Speaker 7: I mean, like, I can't change the world, but I

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Speaker 7: can at least change the lives of the people I'm

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Speaker 7: close to.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be my first summer of having a girlfriend

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Speaker 8: for pride.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: What kind of summer are you having this year? I

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Speaker 1: am having a boy sober one, but that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to have fun and I support all

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Speaker 1: of y'all looking for love this summer. Today we're hearing

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Speaker 1: about love stories from summer's past. I'm hopebordered and consider

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Speaker 1: this boy sobers Summer kickoff. Summer is a great season

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Speaker 1: for love. Some would say the best season for love.

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Speaker 1: To fall deeply in love with someone, to have a

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Speaker 1: steamy fling, to spin out about all the sun drunk

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Speaker 1: decisions you made. Ooh, I love it. Those summer relationships.

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Speaker 1: They never seem to last, though, do they, But they're

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Speaker 1: so sweet while they happen. A few weeks ago, I

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Speaker 1: put out a call online for stories about your summer loves.

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Speaker 1: We got so many call ins about short and sweet relationships, heartbreak,

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Speaker 1: sexy hookups. I wish we could include all of them,

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Speaker 1: and I loved listening to every single one, but we've

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Speaker 1: only been able to select a few for today's episode.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to start with a story that's at

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite music festivals and ends up somewhere

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Speaker 9: My name is Alison, and Summer point twelve, I had

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Speaker 9: this crush that I had followed on Facebook for a

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Speaker 9: long time, and we finally met in person at Bonnaru

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Speaker 9: and then the next summer I found out he's going

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Speaker 9: to Alaska. He was going to get a job out

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Speaker 9: there for the summer, and so I wanted to follow

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Speaker 9: him because I was having a crew good time. So

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Speaker 9: I sold my car and all of my stuff and

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Speaker 9: I flew to Alaska and I lived in a tent

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Speaker 9: in Zelbis for a whole summer, and I slept on

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Speaker 9: a pool floating like a mattress and had like the

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Speaker 9: best summer flying ever. It was getting to be like

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Speaker 9: the end of summer and it started to get really cold.

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Speaker 3: And we didn't have a plan of where we were

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Speaker 9: But we got kicked out of this campground and we

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Speaker 9: it had like the mountains and everything. It was just

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Speaker 9: like so beautiful. It was probably just one of the

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Speaker 9: most relaxing times in my life. I didn't have a job,

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Speaker 9: I had summer flaning, And when we got back, we

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Speaker 9: then we called it quits, but stayed friends.

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Speaker 6: Hey, it's Evan. So like last weekend, I flew to

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Speaker 6: oh cool, And so I go meet her that night

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Speaker 6: before the concert. We hang out all night. We have

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Speaker 3: So the next day we go to this concert.

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Speaker 6: And we have just the best time, so much fun.

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Speaker 6: Louisville is like five hundred miles away from where I live,

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Speaker 6: I find a job in Louisville. Like, honest to god,

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Speaker 6: I'd be completely happy to work whatever job I can

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Speaker 6: it's five hundred miles.

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Speaker 6: We'll figure it out.

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Speaker 4: So in April twenty twenty two, I met Alan at

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Speaker 4: a party in the Loisa. I was about to call

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Speaker 4: into talking about like energy and consciousness, and he was

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Speaker 4: very much into his spiritual practices. And during the conversation

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Speaker 4: had been very influential in his life, like Ramdas and

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Speaker 4: Alan Wattson. You know, I'm like this Mexican girl that

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Speaker 4: just moved to New York. So I found his insights

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Speaker 4: Jewish heritage and background impacted the relationship that he was

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Speaker 4: and I wasn't. So I brought up the conversation about

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Speaker 1: Vacation. Summer love is a special kind of summer love.

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Speaker 1: Travel just does something to you, whether it's exploring somewhere

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Speaker 1: You can rediscover yourself while you're away from your regular life.

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Speaker 3: My name is Leah, and I was maybe twenty years old,

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Speaker 3: and I had just broken up with my boyfriend and

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Speaker 3: And I went on a date with him every night

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Speaker 3: Then on the last day, I was like bad because

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Speaker 3: looking up at the stars and he said, well, Mali

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Speaker 3: will always be here for you.

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Speaker 5: Hi, this is Jess. You and I decided to go

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Speaker 5: home to Los Angeles, where I'm from for about a month.

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Speaker 5: Stepped my hinge and made it clear that I was

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Speaker 5: He was super big on like a skateboarding, longboarding, surfing.

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Speaker 5: He had like long, slippy hair, just like my ideal

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Speaker 5: he picks me up in his Meata convertible and we

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Speaker 5: And I said to him, being with you has felt

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Speaker 5: I wasn't exactly on vacation, but I got to have.

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Speaker 2: This really fun little swing and we still keep in touch.

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Speaker 7: The summer before my senior year of college, I decided

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Speaker 7: so I flew over there and I kind of had

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Speaker 4: Things were really.

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Speaker 7: Great, but my situation at home kind of got worse

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Speaker 7: and worse. I was going up to my room and

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Speaker 1: it was spring break in Gulf Shores, Alabama, and anything

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Speaker 1: He tried to meet me again at another music festival, Bonnerou,

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Speaker 1: But Bonnerou wasn't a fantasy. I wasn't on a beach

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Speaker 1: my other flirtationships. The truth is I liked the idea

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Speaker 1: The callers in these next stories took HI.

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Speaker 8: My name is Lily, and this is a story.

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Speaker 3: That's how I fell for.

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Speaker 8: The one person I never should have fallen for in

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Speaker 3: I'm nineteen years old.

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Speaker 3: But every night I'd finished.

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Speaker 8: There would be all the other staff members, like the

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Speaker 8: It's just different and it's just special, and it feels

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Speaker 8: as a Christian girl having sex the first one.

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Speaker 3: That was so important to me.

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Speaker 8: And he had broken my Virgin Mary necklace by accident

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Speaker 8: when we were walking up, and it felt like this

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Speaker 8: whole big seal for me and for him it was

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Speaker 8: just the summer saying while he still had another girlfriend

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Speaker 8: back at home, Hi.

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Speaker 2: This is Emmy. For the sake of this person's privacy,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to refer to them as John Down. So

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Speaker 2: once upon time last year in DC, I was a

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Speaker 2: political science major in college, and this was my last

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Speaker 2: summer where I had to do an internship, and I

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Speaker 2: was thinking about moving to DC because working for senators,

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Speaker 2: working for the government, I thought Kamala was going to win,

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Speaker 2: and so I was feeling really optimistic about possibly moving there.

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Speaker 2: And so I thought, Okay, if I'm going to live

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Speaker 2: here and I'm single, i'm young, i'm fun. You know,

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Speaker 2: I've got no attachments right now, why don't I go

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Speaker 2: ahead and try and date around. I started going on

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Speaker 2: a few dates with these guys, and then they like

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Speaker 2: it just got really boring or people were ghosting me

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Speaker 2: and fleaking, and DC dating seemed terrible awful. Those women

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Speaker 2: are in the trenches. My thoughts and prayers go to them,

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Speaker 2: and says like, Okay, if I'm not going to find

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Speaker 2: any people my age, I might as well just like

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Speaker 2: have some fun with it. You know, I'm twenty one right,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, and like a few days, by the

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Speaker 2: way expanded my age range went from twenty two to thirty,

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Speaker 2: and then I was like, okay, this isn't really working.

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Speaker 2: Thirty to forty thirty year old men, by the way,

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Speaker 2: terrible the most perverted age group I had interacted with

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Speaker 2: while I was on there, which does a lot given

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Speaker 2: what I'm about to say forty to fifty not great

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Speaker 2: in a little bit of a crisis. They need help.

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Speaker 2: Definitely not the move. And then at some point I

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Speaker 2: just said, fuck it, let's do fifty to eighty plus.

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Speaker 2: Tell me why I match with this man, John Doe

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Speaker 2: fifty eight. He and I match, and I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe he's going to be really weird. Maybe this is

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Speaker 2: going to be terrible. And here's the thing I just

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Speaker 2: want to say, for the record, at no point did

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Speaker 2: I say, Okay, this is going to go somewhere. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna marry this man. I want a relationship. No, no, no, no, no, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: It is summer. I'm here to have fun. I'm here

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Speaker 2: to do things for the plot. I'm never gonna see

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Speaker 2: this man again. I don't even really know what or

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Speaker 2: not I want to give this man my real name.

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Speaker 2: But I end up going on a date with him

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Speaker 2: and tell me why this Like six two six four

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Speaker 2: silver Fox he called me before we went on our date,

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Speaker 2: being like, you know, I just want to make sure,

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Speaker 2: like this is something that you want consent. King kept

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Speaker 2: like asking me for reassurance about whether or not, like

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Speaker 2: this is something that I wanted to do, and that

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Speaker 2: if I was uncomfortable, he would get me a car

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Speaker 2: for to like leave, So nice, so respectful, wanted him

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Speaker 2: the moment that I saw him down that astronomically anyways,

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Speaker 2: long your shirt. We ended up sleeping toil thought that

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Speaker 2: he would need viagra. He did not trust. He did not.

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Speaker 2: Second time, my last night in DC, phenomenal. Top three

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Speaker 2: times I've ever had sex. If not number two or

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Speaker 2: number one? Hard to say, but yeah, John Doe, fifty eight, Noil.

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Speaker 2: I missed you and you recently submitted a friend request

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Speaker 2: to me on Facebook and that was a little bit

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Speaker 2: weird by your respect the fact that you respected my boundary,

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Speaker 2: which is not following me on Instagram. But now we're

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Speaker 2: Facebook friends and is that flirting for fifty eight year

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Speaker 2: old men? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that story was amazing. Congratulations on setting your boundaries.

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Speaker 1: And I should say yes, that fifty eight year old

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Speaker 1: was definitely flirting when he added you as a Facebook friend,

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Speaker 1: and I totally support accepting that invitation. Thank you everyone

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