1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: So now when you go to the high elevations like 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Denver somewhere in Colorado, we play in Mexico City. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: Mexico City is higher. I think you're at ten. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Thousand, Yeah, nine thousand somewhere, eight thousand somewhere in there. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: And so I'm playing fifteen percent. Every shot is fifteen percent. 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Drivers twenty percent. I have to take off our ad 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: and and so yeah, so you're looking at that the 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: friction of the air. Because the air is centner, I can't 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: curve the ball as much. Nobody can curve the ball 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: as much because the air doesn't have the moisture to 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: curve the ball. So you're playing a lot straighter shots 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: in Mexico City than you are in Florida just because 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: of the air thickness and everything. 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Caddy, go back to Caddy. Now, Caddy is very important. 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: You want a person that's kind of opposite of you, 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: because you know, if you're high energy, you want them 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: to be low energy or vice versa. And then they 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: need to know your game, they need to watch your game, 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: they need to be able to to feel the situation, 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: and they also need to have a clear mind. And 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: obviously they're not gonna get as pumped up as me 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: when I'm trying to hit the shot. But you need 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: to be able to talk through it. You got to 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: trust that person. If you can't trust that person, So 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: a new relationship, a new caddy, you have to build 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: that trust. But you have to get some trust so 27 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: that when he calls you off a shot or tells 28 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: you something, you believe it, and if he says it's 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: the right way, you truly believe it, so that you 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: will be over it thinking he's right, I'm gonna pull 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: this off. 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 2: I've got to do this club. I gotta do that club. 33 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: So caddy relationship is very important. 34 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 3: One thing I'm curious about is golf has obviously always 35 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: been popular, but to me at least, it feels like 36 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: over the last I don't know, five to seven years, 37 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: it's really taken another leap with you know, full swing. 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: And obviously, you know, you've seen so much disruption in 39 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: the sport with Live and TGL and all these really 40 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: cool golf adjacent golf businesses that are popping up. But 41 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: I'm curious from where you sit, like is that something 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: that you guys feel and have noticed, Like do you 43 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: feel golf sort of taking an other another leap or 44 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: is it hey, this is this is kind of what 45 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: it's always been and everyone's just waking. 46 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: Up to it. I think that. 47 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: And you know, we make fun of the YouTube golf, 48 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: right like all these all these good all these people, but. 49 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 2: It's yeah, no, it's great for the sport. 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's one of those sports where you know, 51 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: my wife played basketball. She's got fake knees now, and 52 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: she said, I wish I'd have played golf before and 53 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: and got into it and dug into it as much 54 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: as I dug into basketball, so that she probably wouldn't 55 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: have fake knees right now. And and so yeah, I 56 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: think that more and more people play. It doesn't matter 57 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: how they play or why they play, if they watch 58 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: this person or that person or this tour or that tour, 59 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: it's great for the game. And I think athletes like 60 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: you guys are are also changing the game. 61 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: Right you're you're you're helping the sport. 62 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of people, you know, 63 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: getting kids off video games and going out and seeing 64 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: outdoors doing something. 65 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: It's great. And so I love it. 66 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: I think COVID helped out tremendously, got out doors and 67 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: played golf from six feet away. 68 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. It's great where it's been the 69 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: last few years. 70 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, COVID. COVID really started for me. I think I 71 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: got at clubs the year before because I didn't start 72 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: playing talk. I think my second year in the league 73 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: or after a kie year, and then my second year 74 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 4: was COVID. And so after surgery, like there's literally nothing 75 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: else to do, so I'm literally golfing. I actually was 76 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 4: full swinging before I was supposed to. Yeah, I remember 77 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: like asking, okay, see I remember asking. I was like, hey, 78 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 4: when am I allowed to start, like, you know, really swingings? 79 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: Probably not for another four or five weeks. My oh 80 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: got it? Oh got it. But I mean it helped 81 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 4: me honestly, because I was I was doing something and 82 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: got my shoulder back. 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: Where were you Where were you at then when you 84 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: were golfing illegally? 85 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: I was in I was in Dallas. So Dallas has 86 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: some good clubs, good courses. I played a lot there, 87 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: Actually played a lot there during the season as well, 88 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: Like I can't really play during the season here it's freezing. 89 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 4: But whenever you had like like this like two days, 90 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 4: I would go play like today. 91 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I played. I played a lot. 92 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 4: I played once a month during my time down there, 93 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 4: at least once a month until the summertime. 94 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 5: I think part of what you were saying, I feel like, 95 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 5: but you were part of the the beginning foundation of 96 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 5: like golf kind of being cool because obviously you had Tiger. 97 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 5: Then you had like guys like you and Ricky that 98 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 5: started wearing like the kind of you know, the colorful stuff, 99 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 5: and you started to see like a change in like Okay, 100 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 5: it's not just like cutting dry like kind of like 101 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 5: this boring golf. It's like you started seeing people's personality 102 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 5: and like the clothing and kind of like disrupting the 103 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 5: norm a little bit like it was always before them, 104 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 5: it was always kind of like these are unwritten, yeah, 105 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 5: cut and dry over the rules, like you're wearing this. 106 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 5: But then once you guys start like was that, did 107 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 5: you feel any type of way of kind of doing that, 108 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 5: like Okay, maybe I shouldn't be as flashy when you were. 109 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: Starting or you're like this is me. So it's it's 110 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: a great question. 111 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: Payne Stewart, like I said, he wore knickers, and he 112 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: wore he was he signed a deal with NFL, so 113 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: he would wear different NFL colors when he played in 114 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: certain cities, and so like, when I watch guys like that, 115 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: I noticed him. I didn't know how good he was. 116 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: He went a few majors. He was a great player. 117 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: He was one of the best of all time. But 118 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know that as a kid. And then, but 119 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: that's who I watched, and so I I've always used 120 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: the pink driver. My dad used to paint my drivers 121 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: when I was a kid. He would take the paint 122 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: off and then repaint them, splatter paint them. He made 123 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: them shine, he made them, he chromed him out, put 124 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: splatter paint over him. He did a bunch of things 125 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: to my clubs to be different. And my dad always 126 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: told me you got two options in life. He said, 127 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: you can be a leader or a follower. And he goes, 128 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to follow. So I was like, wait, 129 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: that's only one option. Then if you get to be 130 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: a leader. And so going back to like Ricky Fowler. 131 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: Like Ricky Fowler, I mean he wore orange, but he 132 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: was he came from motocross, right like he he grew 133 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: up doing motocross and jumping so on A ten foot 134 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: putt to him is no big deal when you're jumping 135 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: fifty feet in the Motorca, right, And so he brought 136 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: that kind of attitude to golf. There's some other guys, 137 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: Camillo Vajagis, he used to do the spider, if we 138 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: called it the spider. 139 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: Ma was reading Putts. 140 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a few guys that I can think 141 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: of that changed how we look at things. Then there 142 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: were still the good players that were we'll call boring, 143 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: and so he still watch the great players. Don't get 144 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: me wrong, but there was guys that did things differently 145 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: outside the box of golf, and so I don't I 146 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: didn't do it on purpose. I did it because my 147 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: dad wore loud colors and he wore pink paint answer 148 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: to my basketball games, and so pink was always in 149 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: my life. 150 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: And then we could the pink Driver did for charity. 151 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: We helped with two hospitals, building two children's hospitals. So 152 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: I just did it because that's who I am. And 153 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: then it just kind of took over, like you know, 154 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: other people seeing the game, and I like Michael Jordan, 155 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean his his basketball shoes now becoming golf shoes, 156 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: like that changes, that's a different culture coming coming right, 157 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: and that's coming fast in a hurry. 158 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 2: Who does it? You know, who didn't want to. 159 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Be part of that? And and the way the clothes 160 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: were made. I mean, there's just it's a different look 161 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: to golf now. 162 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 2: East Side Golf. Yes, I didn't even do it on purpose. 163 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: I got the east Side Golf on now exactly. 164 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: But but one question for you is, so you obviously 165 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: were you know, you made the move to live and 166 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: I know at the you know, at the time it 167 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: lived made a huge splash. Some guys made the move, 168 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: some guys didn't. Some guys were outspoken about why they 169 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: did or did not do it. Obviously, you have a 170 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: really cool situation where I think you're an owner of 171 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: it team as well. But I'm just curious from your perspective, 172 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: like how that whole thing came about, as for your 173 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: unique situation, what the sort of decision making process was, like, 174 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: how you know what you sort of weighed pros and 175 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: cons of each and how you ultimately arrived at your decision. 176 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: I see myself as a creative, I see myself as 177 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. I see myself as somebody besides a golfer, 178 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: And so for me, golf lets me do these other things, 179 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: and I'm so I love. 180 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: That, But then golf gets boring to me. 181 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: Sixteen years of the same hotels, the same tour, the 182 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: same everything, same people saying this. 183 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that. 184 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: But then when I had the opportunity to own a team, 185 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: I own a I'm part owner of a small Double 186 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: A baseball team here in Penscola, and so being able 187 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: to be a part of another franchise and started from 188 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: scratch and put my own spin on it dream come true. 189 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: I never thought in a million years that I could 190 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: own a golf team or professional golf team that could 191 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: be to change and be part of something bigger than me, 192 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: and so it was a dream come true. 193 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 2: It's a no brainer for me. 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