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Speaker 1: Well up to NFL Daily where we just can't help ourselves.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal back in Los Angeles and thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined by my friend Boots on the ground in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: the host of the p h l Y Eagles podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's Bo Wolf. You'll know them and you'll love.

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Speaker 2: Them, I hope, So thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to have it. Just felt like we

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Speaker 1: need to finish this circle. Bo, Yeah, we need we

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Speaker 1: need to close the championship circle. And you've been on

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Speaker 1: the show throughout this this Eagles run, and I wasn't

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Speaker 1: done talking about this Eagles team, but then they popped

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Speaker 1: up in the news. We'll talk a little Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: some stray final thoughts. I want to hear what the

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Speaker 1: locker rooms, you know, was like after the game, everything

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Speaker 1: post game. We're gonna do a hastily constructed list of

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Speaker 1: the best Super Bowl winners since the last time the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl was in New Orleans. It just felt like

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Speaker 1: that's a good cutoff. That was that Ravens one because

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Speaker 1: leaving that game, that and I am trying not to

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Speaker 1: be hyperbolic. Some some of the listeners think I'm hyperbolic.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking is that like the best super Bowl team

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Speaker 1: and in a decade. So I had to make a list,

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Speaker 1: very hastily constructed. You can help me through that. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's let's start with the Eagles. Just normally, like to

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Speaker 1: the victory goes to spoils here bo, But for you,

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Speaker 1: the spoils is like a second podcast just hours after

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Speaker 1: you get back from Philadelphia when your family is probably

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Speaker 1: angry on you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I mean, I got four hours of

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Speaker 2: of the super Bowl night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah, walking through a little bit. What what

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Speaker 1: was the post super Bowl experience like for you and

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Speaker 1: for the Eagles? And yes, we are going to get

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Speaker 1: to it to Kellen Moore pretty soon. I do want

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Speaker 1: to get to that because it's very Eagles related. It's

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Speaker 1: the biggest news of the day. He will be the saint,

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Speaker 1: said coach. But let's let's go through the Eagle stuff first.

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Speaker 2: So the postgame locker room itself was a wild scene

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Speaker 2: and and you really appreciate it, right because it's you

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Speaker 2: look around the room and as they're all, you know,

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Speaker 2: spraying champagne and dancing and they've all got you know, cigars.

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Speaker 2: Smokes filled the air, like my clothes still smell like cigars.

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Speaker 2: You look around the room and and and everybody has

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Speaker 2: roster players like like aj Brown and Jalen Hurts, but

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Speaker 2: and Orn Burkes guys like that, but all the coaches,

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Speaker 2: all the support staff, all the front office people, like

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Speaker 2: every single person in there, like this is what they

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Speaker 2: go to work every day for. Is a job, is

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Speaker 2: a night like this and their families. You know, it extends,

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Speaker 2: it extends so far beyond that, like it is all

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Speaker 2: in service of and in sacrifice for getting to this moment.

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Speaker 2: And so you look around the room and you appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I can only compare it to the the winning Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl locker room after the two thousand and Sevenantine Eagles

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Speaker 2: but it wasn't It wasn't quite so boisterous. I would

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Speaker 2: And like, if anybody has ever deserved it to like celebrate,

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Speaker 2: And there's a delightful irony here, Greg that you will

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Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni's job thirteen months ago, is there as Nick

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Speaker 2: And I think there's a there's a delightful irony in

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Speaker 1: Now, did they have a moment together? Do you do

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Speaker 2: Idea, And I wasn't there. I wasn't there all night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wondering if I should hit up our

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Speaker 1: that's funny you mention that. Okay, that's taking us in

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Speaker 1: a different direction, But how close do you think that

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Speaker 1: and it's kind of obvious that they chose these coordinators

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Speaker 2: I don't think that it was ever super close, but

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Speaker 2: I did have the framing last year that I think

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Speaker 2: I think they would have eventually butted heads as to

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Speaker 2: I think all indications are that Howie was one of

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Speaker 2: I think he thinks they have a good working relationship.

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Speaker 2: You know, you could be you could play you know,

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Speaker 2: when we do pivot to Kellen Moore, I think that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that will be telling. And now Syrian, he's

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Speaker 2: He deserves to be on stage like puffing on his chest.

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Speaker 2: He did it. I mean, it's it's unbelievable. I know

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Speaker 1: Like now I listen to your post show, I heard

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Speaker 1: But it's also week four. I think this whole season

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Speaker 1: list spoiler alert, the twenty fourteen Patriots who went to

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Speaker 1: wonder if part of the reason they wouldn't have gotten

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Speaker 1: happy to hear it, because that's stuff you have that

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Speaker 1: no one else does. But watching, you know, rewatching that

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Speaker 1: He is calling back to a time in the NFL

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Speaker 1: the Rams, and this was the Super Bowl. Hurts though,

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Speaker 1: like the rushing you said, like the Chiefs knew they

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Speaker 1: were gonna lose the in the first half. I got admit, like,

435
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Speaker 1: even coming into the second half, I was like, all right,

436
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Speaker 1: let's see what the Chiefs do for the first drive.

437
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Speaker 1: I didn't think it was over until they do nothing

438
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Speaker 1: with their first drive, and then Hurts just starts making

439
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: very quick decisions to run with their first drive and

440
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: their racket up the first times You're like, okay, this

441
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: is over. And that was really part of a game

442
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Speaker 1: where he even though he held the ball at times,

443
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Speaker 1: he made quick decisions. He made good decisions and oh,

444
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: by the way, he goes like five for six and

445
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Speaker 1: plus twenty yard throws and the more you know rewatching them,

446
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Speaker 1: I realized like, oh, those were just awesome throws. There's

447
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Speaker 1: to me, no question is two best games of the

448
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 1: season were the last two, which is just just totally bad.

449
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Speaker 2: As absolutely and dotson completion to me was an awesome

450
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: one because it was the first big blitz Spags sent

451
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 2: all game and he makes that check and I don't

452
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 2: know that like people who haven't watched the Eagles all

453
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,120
Speaker 2: season realize how insane it was for him to check

454
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Speaker 2: to a go ball to Jahan Dotson, who like he

455
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: barely throws to. This was the first game all season long,

456
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Speaker 2: if you don't count the Week eighteen finale with the

457
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Speaker 2: backups in which John Dotson had two catches that went

458
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Speaker 2: for first downs. Like that's how one involved he's been

459
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Speaker 2: in the offense. And it was a beautiful throw. The

460
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: scrambles were huge, and obviously in part because of you know,

461
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 2: they weren't getting a ton from Saquon Barkley, which again

462
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: I think speaks to like the talent disparity in this game.

463
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Speaker 2: It felt like the Chiefs game plan was we are

464
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Speaker 2: not gonna let Saquon beat us on offense, and we

465
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: are not gonna let Jalen Carter beat us on defense.

466
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: Their double team in him every snap almost and okay,

467
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: the other twenty players on the field are just going

468
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: to dominate every single one of their other individual matchups,

469
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 2: and like you get a like almost a forty point game.

470
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Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, I thought I thought Hurts was was outstanding.

471
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Speaker 2: The go balls were awesome. I thought that, you know,

472
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Speaker 2: the shot to Davante down the middle was I talked

473
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Speaker 2: about this team being mean, like they really stepped on

474
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Speaker 2: the throat there after the fourth down stop by Avonte Maddox.

475
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Speaker 1: That's like a tough catch and a tough throw, like

476
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Speaker 1: to have it in the right spot people are killing

477
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: like Jalen Watson for that. It's like, I mean, that's

478
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Speaker 1: just like these good offense beat Like that's just a

479
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: great throw, perfect like where he he always throws those

480
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: deep balls in just the right spot. I mean, he's

481
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Speaker 1: not a complete quarterback, but his strengths are so good

482
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: and the design runs were effective too, Like he is

483
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: a good vertical runner that helped them keep the chains moving.

484
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Speaker 2: The strength that he has throwing deep, which to me

485
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: is like as a passer the best thing he does,

486
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 2: makes it more mystifying why we didn't see more of

487
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Speaker 2: this in the regular season, Like there was a stretch

488
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Speaker 2: in the second half of the regular season where the

489
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 2: Eagles threw the ball downfield, you know, less often than

490
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: almost every team in the league, which was kind of bizarre.

491
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Speaker 2: The one other thing that worked out well for the

492
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Speaker 2: Eagles in this game, and credit again to fran Duffy

493
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Speaker 2: for pointing this out. Usually the story with Jalen Hurts

494
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: as a passer is that the quicker he gets rid

495
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: of the ball, the better he is, and the longer

496
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 2: he holds onto the ball, the less effective he is.

497
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,719
Speaker 2: He's like towards the bottom of the league in you know,

498
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: epa per pass when he holds onto the ball for

499
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Speaker 2: three seconds or more, which is a little bit unexpected

500
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Speaker 2: given that he is, you know, a creative player. You

501
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 2: would think that as a mobile quarterback he would be

502
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Speaker 2: better at that. And in this game he held onto

503
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Speaker 2: the ball. I believe this was the third longest time

504
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: to throw that he had all season. But when he

505
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: held onto the ball, he was way more efficient than

506
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: than he usually is, and that was that was a

507
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Speaker 2: big factor in the game.

508
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Speaker 1: Yeah, too many one on one matchups. Let's uh, let's

509
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Speaker 1: pivot that that they just had a huge advantage. Let's

510
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Speaker 1: pivot a little bit to just what's next out of

511
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Speaker 1: this group, and they have both These teams have a

512
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Speaker 1: lot of free agents, a lot of question marks coming

513
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Speaker 1: into the offseason. We're gonna do full off season previews

514
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Speaker 1: for every team, but for for the Eagles, who do

515
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Speaker 1: you think is most likely to stay? I'm gonna give

516
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: you six starters. That's a lot. Yeah, we're going through

517
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: the different teams, like if you have more than four,

518
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: like four or more starters, that's actually more than average,

519
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: Like transition over the courts of an offseason in terms

520
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: of guys you mostly would want to keep. And this

521
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Speaker 1: is the case here. Josh Sweat gonna be a free agent,

522
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Speaker 1: Milton Williams gonna be free agent, McKay Beckton gonna be

523
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Speaker 1: a free agent, Zach Bond gonna be a free agent,

524
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Speaker 1: Darius Slayte not gonna be free agent, but talks as

525
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: if he is, like he thinks the Eagles are gonna

526
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Speaker 1: cut him or something is going to happen there. And

527
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: then Dallas Goddard just because you threw this out there,

528
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: like would they ever want to move off of his contract?

529
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Speaker 1: That would surprise me personally, because I just think he

530
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: adds such an important dimension, Like why would they choose

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Speaker 1: to do that. But of that group, who kind of

532
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Speaker 1: stands out to you is the most likely to go

533
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Speaker 1: and the most likely to stay however you want to

534
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Speaker 1: answer it.

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Speaker 2: So I think I think Mackai Bectam is the least

536
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: likely to stay for several reasons. One is that, like

537
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: they're they're gonna have to extend Kim Jurgens this offseason.

538
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: They're already paying Landon Dickerson and Jordan Mailatta and Lane

539
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: Johnson at the at the top of the offensive line market.

540
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Speaker 2: You can't pay everybody, and I think you can trust

541
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Speaker 2: Jeff Stotlind to, you know, fill in somebody as the

542
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Speaker 2: right guard between those two guys. Tyler Steen filled in

543
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: this game and is fine. I think the Eagles wanted

544
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 2: to take an offensive lineman early last year. I think

545
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Speaker 2: they would like to do it.

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Speaker 1: He was not fin your game. I think he came

547
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: in in the very first rep Chris Jones like pretty soon.

548
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Speaker 2: I don't think they I don't think they would like

549
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: to enter next season with him as plan A, but

550
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: but I think they trust that they can backfill that spot.

551
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Speaker 2: McKay Beckton was like a great one year bandit. I

552
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: don't think that they view him as worthy of like

553
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: top of the market salary, unless they think he's the

554
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: eventual Lane Johnson replacement, which I don't think they do.

555
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: Milton Williams, I think is also very unlikely to return.

556
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Speaker 2: I think if you asked Howie Roseman, like one of

557
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: his regrets from the past couple of years, I think

558
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 2: they wish that they had extended him two years ago

559
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 2: when when they first could have. But he's going to

560
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Speaker 2: get paid this offseason. I don't think they can afford him.

561
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Speaker 2: He's going to be I mean he's he's twenty five

562
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: years old, he's going to be twenty six in April.

563
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: He's an ascending player, and they've got Jordan Davis coming

564
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: back next year. Morowajema, who played very well in the postseason,

565
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: is kind of a guy who can who can backfill there,

566
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Speaker 2: and it's supposed to be a good defensive tackle class.

567
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Speaker 2: I think they sort of trust that that's how they

568
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Speaker 2: can approach it.

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Speaker 1: Car They usually get those deals done of like guys

570
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Speaker 1: who are coming up on their after that they maybe

571
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: value higher than other teams. Like Josh was a home alignment.

572
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, homegrown linement is not something that they usually let go,

573
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: and so I think they I think they were a

574
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they tried. I don't know if it was

577
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what the negotiations were like, but I

578
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: think they regret that a little bit. I also don't

579
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: think Josh Sweat is coming back, in part because you know,

580
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: they made him take a pay cut last year, last offseason,

581
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: so I think there might be some acrimony there. Then again, Sweat,

582
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: you know, hired Drew Rosenhouse, so that probably means that

583
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 2: any bad feelings are done on that front. But it

584
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: also means that Rosenhouse will make sure that Sweat gets

585
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: the most money, and I don't think that the Eagles

586
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: will be the ones who offer him the most money.

587
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: I think slayh is an interesting one. I think the

588
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: plan heading into the season was probably to post June

589
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: first release him this offseason. Saves a good chunk of money.

590
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,239
Speaker 2: You've got Quinnon Minchell, You've got Cooper Dejen, You've got

591
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: KEITHA Ringo coming up. They could also resign Isaiah Rodgers.

592
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: But I do think that there is potential mutual interest

593
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: in like a restructure for a one year deal if

594
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: Sleigh wants to go out just on his terms with

595
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: the Eagles. I think that's possible. Goddard, I think is

596
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: I think they would like to restructure him. He's got

597
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: no guaranteed money, and so I think I think there

598
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: is a real possibility that they move on and they're

599
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: looking to create room. I do think that's a place

600
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: to do it. He's just been so injury prone. He

601
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: hasn't played a full season. I think he's played one

602
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 2: full season the last five years, and so I think

603
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: that's a place where they could look to make a

604
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: change and get younger. And then Bond is the really

605
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: interesting one to me because we.

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Speaker 1: Know they have not going anywhere. I don't care. They'll

607
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: franchise tag him. So he's number one on my list,

608
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: but you.

609
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: Can't franchise tag him because he gets the franchise numbers.

610
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: Is for edg Rushers, right, But it's like a twenty

611
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: plus million dollar thing.

612
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: So well, that's fine, give Zack Bond twenty plus million

613
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Speaker 1: for a year.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I think he was I think you had.

615
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Speaker 1: To pick one most valuable player on their defense. I

616
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: guess Jalen Carter would be up there.

617
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: I think it's probably I mean this bon is number two.

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Speaker 1: Hey, who is the defensive Player of the Year finalists?

619
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Speaker 1: It was Zach Bond and it didn't slow down in

620
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Speaker 1: the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: He was awesome.

622
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Speaker 1: I think he kind of unlocked them. I honestly think

623
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Speaker 1: he would be very difficult for Vic Vangio to replace,

624
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: and they will. This is just my opinion, but I

625
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,239
Speaker 1: think they will look at him as somewhat irreplaceable and

626
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: just give him a ton of money.

627
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Speaker 2: I think he is the one who they are most

628
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: willing to go, like above what they're comfortable for. But

629
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Speaker 2: they're also going to have a number. And what's really

630
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: hard to figure out with Zach Bond is what the

631
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: market's going to be like, because this is a twenty

632
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: nine year old who has done this for one year

633
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: at a position that is not usually hugely valued on

634
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: the open market. If some team comes out, if some

635
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: team comes out and offers him twenty billion dollars, I

636
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: don't think the Eagles are going to match that, but

637
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 2: I think that they would love to try. I think

638
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: they're going to try to spoil him before free agency

639
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: hits see if they can get him to come back.

640
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: And you also have to wonder, you know, Zach bond.

641
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: This is his chance to cash in, but he's also

642
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: seen the other side of like what it's like, how

643
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: much does is he willing to take any kind of

644
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: discount to be back with Vic Fancia.

645
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Speaker 1: I think he will have a huge market. I think

646
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: off ball linebackers are kind of coming back in style

647
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: like running backs. It's just hard to find three down linebackers.

648
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Speaker 1: There's enough Fangio like teams out there that can convince

649
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: himself that he fits perfectly as Okay, we don't have

650
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: to change our lineup. He can play on the line,

651
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 1: he can back up, he unlocks it.

652
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: Will he be those four on your and your top

653
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: one hundred? Will it be ahead of Sweaton and Milton Williams.

654
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Milton Williams will be high Just a young pas, especially

655
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: who's just coming off a great year. Yeah. Probably. I mean,

656
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: I know it is only one year, but you gotta

657
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: just you gotta evalue what he did and how valuable

658
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: he was. I don't think they'll ever let him go.

659
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: I really don't. Whatever the off ball line backer market is,

660
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: they'll just I think they'll will agree to disagree that

661
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: he'll get some. He'll get like thirty million dollars guaranteed

662
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: on like a three year, fifty million dollar deal or

663
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: something like that where he's making sixteen or seventeen. That's yeah,

664
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: and then and they'll just I think they'll get that

665
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: done like next week, don't even wait.

666
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: I do think he's the one that they would most

667
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: like to have back.

668
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: It would be crazy. Don't let him go the Chiefs quickly.

669
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: It's crazy. We'll be covering this plenty as it happens.

670
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: But Kelsey at this point you have to think is

671
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: more likely to retire than not. Tray Smith is going

672
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: to be a top of a lot of free agent lists.

673
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: Although I asked around and there is a little bit

674
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: of a buzz that like, was not Tray Smith's best year.

675
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: This is something that basics like me and you might

676
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: might not totally know, but like, he's not coming off

677
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: a good year for Tray Smith, so that'll be interesting.

678
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: Justin Reid Nick Bolton Wharton, who I thought had an

679
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: awesome very similar to Milton Williams but just a little

680
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: lower level, but had an awesome postseason, and he's gonna

681
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: be a free agent New Hopkins omena who Derek Noddy,

682
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: like a lot of guys who played a lot of

683
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: snaps for them. It's gonna be a transition year. They

684
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: have to fix their offensive line again. So I think

685
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: they're they're working a little uphill. Let's take a quick break.

686
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: We'll come back with Kellen Moore talk, and then yes,

687
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little Rogers. We're gonna rank some

688
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: super Bowls. Back on NFL Daily, both was trying to

689
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: sell me that Nick Bolton's five years younger than Nick

690
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: than Zach Bond. Nick Bolton will get paid too. He's

691
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: a great player, great young player. I gotta decide how

692
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rank these guys. This is not that show

693
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: though we've We've already gone too long just talking Eagles.

694
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: Let's talk about them losing their offensive coordinator. We have

695
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: our head coach in New Orleans. As I was leaving

696
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: and I was, you know, the city, and I was

697
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: thinking about Sirianni on the podium, Telan Kellen, Let's run

698
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: this thing back. I was thinking, Oh my god, what

699
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: a crazy situation. If Kellen Moore got really emotional and

700
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: just decided to stay and the Eagles gave him the

701
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: bag like it would then turn from one of the

702
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: most embarrassing head coaching searches of all time to the

703
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: most embarrassing head coaching search of all type. But Saints

704
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: fans are absolutely thrilled, and I don't blame him considering

705
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: what they've been through that they have the Super Bowl

706
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: champion offensive coordinator. What do you think after watching him

707
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: up close bo for a year of Kellen Moore as

708
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: a head coach.

709
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: It's funny you say the thing about him getting emotional

710
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: because I was thinking back today and I don't remember

711
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: seeing him in the postgame locker room or at the

712
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: party late night, So maybe he was like trying to

713
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: avoid getting sucked in by sentimentality. I don't think that

714
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: that's actually the case. I just didn't see him. I

715
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: think Kellen Moore is going to be an interesting head

716
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: coach experience because I don't really know what to expect

717
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: from a like media standpoint. I mean, he's very vanilla.

718
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: He does not give anything away. Like his press conferences

719
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: this year were kind of notoriously bland. But you know,

720
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: I did ask Nick Sirianni late in the season, like

721
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: why he thinks Kellen Moore would be a good head coach,

722
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 2: And one of the first things he mentioned and maybe

723
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: this is just how Nick Sirianni thinks about the position,

724
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: was about how well he commands a room and how

725
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: detailed he is, and so we'll see how those those

726
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: things happened. I don't think that he was particularly like

727
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 2: the best, you know, play designer necessarily this year.

728
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: You guys are unhappy with him. Philadelphia wasn't like thrilled

729
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: with Kellen Moore for parts of this.

730
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: Again, it's also you're untangling with Jalen Hurts, and then

731
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: you see the week eighteen game plan and it's it's

732
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: all the bells and whistles that you were expecting, and

733
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: Tanner McKee looks awesome. So maybe the Kellen Moore head

734
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: coach offense will look a lot different than what looked like.

735
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: Here go ahead, wait, hold on for a second there,

736
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: How annoyed are you that it was Kenny Pickett finishing

737
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: out the Super Bowl and not your boy Tanner McKee

738
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: that was and he would have picked up a first down.

739
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: They didn't want to hurt Jalen's feelings. If it was

740
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: McKee and he lit it up, it was gonna be

741
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: you know, you get the whole off season quarterback controversy.

742
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: They couldn't handle that.

743
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they got they got to get rid

744
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: of Kenny Pickett. Although the most fanciful I heard on

745
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: your on your podcast over the last few weeks was, well,

746
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: maybe they're trying to just make sure they preserve Kenny

747
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: Pickett's trade value. That's why he's still the backet. What

748
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: trade value you guys think Kenny Pickett has? No one's

749
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: traded for Kenny Pickett.

750
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: Well, I mean maybe you get six sixth Yeah.

751
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: A sixth the seventh swap, that's what you got for him.

752
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: Last year's trade's value hasn't got up with the Eagles.

753
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: Oh, his value last year was like a late third,

754
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: it was. It was like a fourth round or an

755
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: early fourth. Maybe it wasn't it a swap though, didn't

756
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: they it was a swap, But that's the val a round.

757
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: Back it was. It was ridiculous. Yeah, value though, Yeah, maybe.

758
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: He well he's cheap back and that's the value is

759
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: that he's he's on a rookie contract.

760
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

761
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: As for killing Moore, I don't know. I mean, we'll

762
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: see what kind of staff he builds. It's always tough

763
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: to build the staff this late in the cycle. It

764
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: sounds like, there's gonna be some some short term pain

765
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: right with that, with that Saints roster. But I don't know,

766
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm honestly, I don't know what to expect

767
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 2: from the Kellen Moore head coaching experience because we haven't

768
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: really learned that much about him.

769
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: You know, He's he's an interesting case because he's he

770
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: was a guy you thought would be the future Dallas

771
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys head coach. At one point he thought, by all

772
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: accounts that he would be a future Dallas Cowboys head coach.

773
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: And then Brian Schottenheimer gets the job, and perhaps I've

774
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: heard that, you know, seeing what happened with Slowek not

775
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: getting the Cowboys job made him realize, like, well, if

776
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: I can triple my salary or whatever it's gonna be,

777
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot more money and have a

778
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: chance to do it. There there's no guarantee I ever

779
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: get my chance. I'm gonna take this, this this opportunity.

780
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: Maybe he brings in Doug Nussmeier, who is with him

781
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia on offense, and then Brandon Staley is reportedly

782
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: the leading candidate for the defensive coordinator job. Staley hired

783
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: him in a relatively disastrous season for both of them.

784
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: It's always funny with that when the coordinator becomes the

785
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: head coach and hires the head coach as the coordinator.

786
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: I think that's always a funny dynamic.

787
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: Two young guys. We'll see. We'll see. By the way

788
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer hired who did he hire Joe Brady?

789
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: Right?

790
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: No, not Joe Brady, I mean Ken Dorsey. Of course

791
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: he didn't hire Joe Brady Ken Dorsey in Dallas. I

792
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: like that staff that he's putting together. So shout out

793
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: to Brian Schottenheimer. I'm like, fifteen percent higher than consentus.

794
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: Then how it will go for him? I think he

795
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: could be fine.

796
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: And I will note the thing that you will hear

797
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: from the Eagles now is that this will be Jalen

798
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: Hurts's fifth offensive coordinator in his six seasons in the NFL,

799
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: and if you go back to his college career, it's

800
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: nine in ten.

801
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: Very similar to the career of Derek Carr, who Kellen

802
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: Moore is inheriting. Presumably some contrasting reports out there about

803
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: how much Kellen Moore wants Derek Carr as his quarterback.

804
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even say reports It's contrasting people that you

805
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: talked to at the Super Bowl that seemed to be

806
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: well informed, but they don't agree on this that maybe

807
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore said, I'm only taking that job, or you know,

808
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: he does not want Derek Carr. It's a very confusing

809
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: situation with Mickey Loomis running that team with about as

810
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: much power as anyone in the NFL, and Kellen Moore

811
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: has to step into that. But he's been in weird

812
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: spots before. He was the coach under Jason Garrett did

813
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: so well that he kept the job, but he kept

814
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: it with Mike McCarthy and then Mike McCarthy kind of

815
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: slowly made it into his offense. Other people were saying

816
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: that Jerry Jones had some input on that offense, and

817
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: it's like he was extremely productive with the Cowboys. That

818
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: should not be lost. He was there for four years.

819
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: A couple of those teams were elite, Like if you

820
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: just go by points and yards, they were the best

821
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: offense in the league, and even by the efficiency metrics

822
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: they were excellent. And he won with backups. He won

823
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: with some backups Andy Dalton at one point, and he

824
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: and he won with the Cooper Rush in Dallas, so

825
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: like he's done it. I think the Saints did about

826
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: as well as they could have. I'm looking forward to

827
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: that before we moved totally off the Eagles. What is

828
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: the dumbest thing you've heard this week? Just maybe analysis

829
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: of the game, if you want, I can, I can start.

830
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: It was more just dumbest thing I saw. I was

831
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: walking on Saint Charles yesterday. I had a very late

832
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: flight and I just saw in the windows in a

833
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: bar like the lower third for one of those I

834
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: believe it was first get up and it was said,

835
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: it said, is the goat debate over? Is it over?

836
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: Like now Brady's won it for good? It's over because

837
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: of what your Eagles did did to the to the

838
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. Is it over? That's the dumbest thing

839
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: I've ever heard. That is the dumbest thing I've seen.

840
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: It's extremely dumb. Yeah, I mean that's that's that's pretty

841
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: high up there. I'm trying to think. I think I

842
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: guess it would have been, you know, a conversation about

843
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: Sirianni's job security heading into the Super Bowl, Like if

844
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: they lost the game, could he still be fired? That

845
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: seems pretty pretty unlikely. Other than that, I guess it's

846
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 2: just like the chest pounding of like the Eagles had

847
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: no chance in this game, like this game has already

848
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: been played two years ago. They've gotten no shot, which

849
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: turned out to be quite wrong.

850
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: There are a lot of that. It was interesting because look,

851
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: we went three for three here on our picks for

852
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: Game Deview and on NFL Daily and Game Deview with

853
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: five different people. And yet I did look, and I

854
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: think the consent it was a very slight favoring the

855
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: Chiefs in terms of the general cognizanti. Maybe it was

856
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: like fifty five forty five, sixty forty, so it wasn't

857
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: a nobody believed in us. But it was a situation

858
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: where the team wins so convincingly, kind of like that

859
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: Seahawks win that keeps getting referenced that everyone who who

860
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: picked the Chiefs probably feels a little stupid, like I do.

861
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 2: Well, I do will, I will give you a little

862
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: bit of gas here and that, like I did see

863
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: it come across my timeline, like the breakdown of who

864
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: picked two, and it was like, oh, all the ball

865
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: knowers picked the Eagles. It was you know, it was

866
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: the nameless faces who picked the chiefs Well.

867
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: I also like sticking with my picks if I believe

868
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: in the overall structure and talent. And I picked the

869
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: Eagles to win the Super Bowl in both twenty twenty

870
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: two and twenty twenty three before the season, and this season,

871
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: I had him in the NFC Championship Game before the season,

872
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: which I feel like people didn't know what to make

873
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: of this team, and I wis I wish I had

874
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: just picked them to win it off for three speight

875
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: years because I finally, I finally would have been right.

876
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: And that was the dumbest thing I saw, by the way,

877
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: because like I'm old enough to remember NFL dot COM's

878
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: cover story before that Seahawks Super Bowl bo was does

879
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning cement himself in the goat race with a

880
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: win today? Because that was that was the thought. Like

881
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: at that point, it's not that long ago. People gave

882
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: Manning the edge because of the because it had been

883
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: ten years before, you know, since Brady had won one.

884
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: You know, he was quote unquote stuck on three. And

885
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: Manning's individual stuff was in the Broncos that season and

886
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: their offense was so much higher that generally people thought

887
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time, at least between Manning and

888
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: Brady was Manning and they were like almost mid thirties

889
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: at the point it fell over. That's why that's the

890
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: stupidest thing ever, because Patrick Mahomes not even not even thirty, Like,

891
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: let let this play out at this point, it's just

892
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: got to be him versus Brady, and he hasn't even

893
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: gotten to Brady's best decade. Help, Brady's best decade was

894
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: like thirty four to forty four, So you know, you

895
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: can't expect Mahomes to do that, but like it could,

896
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: So let's just let's just put a pin in it

897
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: a little bit.

898
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think from a like if you could zoom out,

899
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: it will be fun to kind of see, like what

900
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: the next iteration of the Patrick Mahomes chiefs are like

901
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: post chasing Kelcey, Like how are they going to reform

902
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: the offense? How is he going to become a different player?

903
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: I think that's a very a very fascinating story.

904
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: And look, it's it's not good for him. It will

905
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: be remembered that he had two of his worst games

906
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. That was another kind of takeaway

907
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: I had rewatching was like everyone's just going to put

908
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: it on everything around Mahomes. He was bad. I mean

909
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: he legit panicked.

910
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: He I don't remember ever seeing him like that in

911
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: the pocket, like like really looking uncomfortable.

912
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: He likes to play with people around him, and the

913
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: way that they did it, he did not like it anymore.

914
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: He essentially fritzed out. He held the ball a couple

915
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: times when actually there were rows. They weren't like open,

916
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: but you just would thought that he would he would

917
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: try to rip it like he he played one of

918
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: the worst games of his career and considering the contact

919
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: easily the worst game of his career in that spot,

920
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: So he deserves a little little bit of that. Getting

921
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: blown out twice in the Super Bowl, you know that

922
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: didn't happen. And to Brady, their teams were always close.

923
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: They get both blown out in like a divisional round

924
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: game or two, though, so you know, things happen.

925
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, yeah, everybody says it. But the worst

926
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: season of his career was the AFC Championship. Gamers ultwise,

927
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: like that's that's pretty good.

928
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: Right, and it's like you should you should get extra

929
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: credit for playing well against the Texans and playing well

930
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: against the Bills before having the worst game, like Brady

931
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: shouldn't get somehow put higher because he got waxed by

932
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: the Ravens in that two thousand and nine game, which

933
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: at the time I thought was like the end of

934
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots dynasty. They were booing him out of Foxborough

935
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, and then literally the next

936
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: year they had the best offense for about the next

937
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: seven straight years in aggregate. It was crazy. So we

938
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: kind of need to see that out of Mahomeszo. It's

939
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: been a couple of quiet years, like in terms of

940
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: his regular season performance, and that that gets us to

941
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: ranking these these teams.

942
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear how this goes.

943
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so this was last minute. I did not spend

944
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: nearly enough time on this, but it's one of those

945
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: exercise I feel like if you spent all the time

946
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: and if you spent almost no time, it wouldn't improve

947
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: at all. So you're gonna comment to me on what

948
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: you think of my rankings here. I decided to do

949
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: it from from the Ravens in the Superdome just as

950
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: a as a cutoff. So that's the last twelve season.

951
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: Twelve, isn't that thirteen seasons? Am? I? Wrong.

952
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I'm throwing the Ravens. Part of the

953
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: reason is they're actually my worst Super Bowl champion. And

954
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: again I'm thinking about just just line them all up

955
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: in a given week. You obviously get extra credit from

956
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: how you're playing at the end of the season and

957
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl and in the postseason, but all

958
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: these teams were playing awesome. They won the freaking Super Bowl,

959
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: Like there isn't one that I looked at was like, oh,

960
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: they just got lucky, like game after game after game,

961
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: and so in the end, you know, the twenty twelve Ravens,

962
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco's your quarterback, I mean, and he was playing

963
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: at an outrageous level. And that was one of the

964
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: worst defenses the Ravens have ever had, and they somehow

965
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: strung together a playoff run in which they didn't even

966
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: play that well on defense the whole time, but they

967
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: got enough stops and they almost gave up the biggest

968
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: comeback in history against the forty nine ers, but they

969
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: got enough. So they're a great team, but they're at

970
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: the bottom of my list.

971
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: They're thirteen. Okay, yeah, I mean I guess if you are.

972
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: If you are ranking the quarterbacks themselves would flackout be

973
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: at the bottom. Is it this version of feeling hurts

974
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: like everybody.

975
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: I would say that version of Peyton Manning would be

976
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: at the bottom. So they're part of my next two

977
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: are the twenty eighteen Patriots and the twenty fifteen Broncos. Now,

978
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: if we're just ranking defenses, I know Broncos fans will

979
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: get mad. They would be right there with the Eagles

980
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks as the three best defenses over these

981
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: this stretch. But I feel like if you're that imbalanced

982
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: and you kind of look at their run that they

983
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: went through, they were going against like the horrible one

984
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: of the worst paytriots teams that ever made it to

985
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: a conference championship with Stephen Jackson at running back and

986
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: like not even it was just like all it was

987
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: was Brady and Gronk and then they get absolutely smashed

988
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. You get taken down a peg

989
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: if you lose by thirty five points. And that Patriots team,

990
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: while they showed up, had a great playoff run, like

991
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: they had some bad They got waxed a couple of

992
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: times that year. It was like on it was the

993
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: Patriots dynasty. On fumes just cranking it up one last time.

994
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: I think if you just put them on the field

995
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: against their other Patriots teams, against all these other teams,

996
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: they might they might struggle. They might struggle a little bit.

997
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: The one bit of prep I did for this was

998
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: I just looked at all of their point differentials from

999
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: including the regular season and the playoffs together, and just

1000
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: for the record, that twenty fifteen Broncos team was at

1001
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: the bottom. So I think that that was reelect.

1002
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: You there, thank you, and Patriots fans. It's tough to

1003
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: separate them all because that playoff run was pretty great.

1004
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: They did put up like forty back to back weeks

1005
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: out of nowhere against the Chargers and the Chiefs, having

1006
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: to beat Mahomes in his first time, and then the

1007
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: defense suddenly shows up and holds the Rams to three.

1008
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: So it showed they were balanced, but overall not like

1009
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: an amazing team.

1010
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: All Right, the young young Philadelphians will need to take

1011
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: your notes on like how to go about differentiating between

1012
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: all the difference.

1013
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, then they'll have to hear because all right,

1014
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: these next I had a hard time separating these four teams,

1015
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: but they're in my next four, all right, The twenty

1016
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: three Chiefs are the next lowest team on this list.

1017
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: They had a crazy good playoff run, but they had

1018
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: like a three and five stretch during the season, and

1019
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: the offense really wasn't that great, even though you had

1020
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: Mahomes very good defensive twenty seventeen Eagles this is where

1021
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: they show up. By the time they finished that season,

1022
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: they could be anyone. Obviously they did it. They were dangerous,

1023
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: but you know, I Fulio Jones makes that catch and

1024
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: a couple things little happen, and certainly looking over the

1025
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 1: regular season, this is where I put him. Then here's

1026
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: the twenty two Chiefs. Of the latter two Chiefs teams

1027
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: like this is the one where the offense was much

1028
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: more efficient, not as explosive, but a very good offense,

1029
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: and the defense stepped up late in the year.

1030
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: And then they say on THEA and then.

1031
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: The twenty sixteen Patriots sneaky great Super Bowl. This was

1032
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: actually one versus two in terms of d VA. The

1033
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: Falcons were number one in DVA that year. I don't

1034
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: think of that Patriots team as like that unbelievable, the

1035
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: one that made the comeback there, but they were pretty great.

1036
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: So those are my next pack. You can give me

1037
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: any thoughts on those.

1038
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 2: You will be surprised to know that that twenty sixteen

1039
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: Patriots team had the second best point differential of all

1040
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: these teams. And then I was just going to say

1041
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: on the seventeen Eagles, I think this is where the

1042
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: disparity between the scope of the entire season and the

1043
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: way they're playing at the end matters, because over the

1044
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: course of the season, you know, they blew out all

1045
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: kinds of teams. When when Carson Wentz was healthy their

1046
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: fourth on this list of point differential, but the Nick

1047
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: Foles iteration did not really come together until those last two.

1048
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: I mean, that team, you know, La, there's like that

1049
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: there's a magic to that team. But I think even

1050
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: you know, Chris Long seven his podcast that if his

1051
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: team lined up against the team from you know, Sunday Night,

1052
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: he thinks he thinks they're not winning that game.

1053
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm trying not to also be a homer

1054
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: because that Patriot that was a really good Falcons team

1055
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: that ultimately they had a hard time slowing down for

1056
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: much of that game, but they did when they needed

1057
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: to in a great Patriots offense. That's interesting. I'm point differential.

1058
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: I think they had a very easy schedule that year.

1059
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: I weirdly remember they were just like beating up on

1060
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: all these bad teams. All right, I'm into my top four,

1061
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: number four, and that these four I could rearrange in

1062
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: any way. Number four the twenty nineteen Chiefs. Ultimately it's

1063
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: the best Mahomes, it's the best Chiefs offense. I think

1064
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: offense matters more. And then I look at the top

1065
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: three teams on this list and I start wondering, maybe

1066
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: maybe offense doesn't matter more. So they were they were

1067
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: pretty hard for for me. Do you think that's right

1068
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: to put them as the best Chiefs team?

1069
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: That's one I think so. And you're reminding me of

1070
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: my reaction after the twenty two Super Bowl, you know,

1071
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: when the Chiefs beat the Eagles, which was that you know,

1072
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe defenses don't matter because like in

1073
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: that like that was a good Eagles defense and they

1074
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: didn't do anything against a very good Chiefs offense. But

1075
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: I guess my opinion has changed over the past couple

1076
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: of weeks.

1077
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: I know. That's the thing that's crazy.

1078
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: Is so much I actually think you framed as well.

1079
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: It's that there's a difference between like, like the number

1080
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: one defense a great defense, and then like the difference

1081
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 2: between the number four defense and the number twenty five

1082
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 2: defense is very minor, Like you either have a great

1083
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: defense or a terrible defense, and everybody else is sort

1084
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: of in between.

1085
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: That's the thing with the twenty sixteen Patriots, like they

1086
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: had a good enough defense. They obviously could game play well,

1087
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: but the team, like the Falcons go up and down

1088
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: on them. The twenty two Chiefs that happened like that

1089
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: Eagles Patriots game. In theory that Super Bowl had pretty

1090
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: competent defense, and they were literally two of the worst

1091
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: defenses in the history of the sport. All it was

1092
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: was yardage.

1093
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 2: It was like a like the three worst I believe

1094
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: Shiel Capati has It's like the three worst Super Bowl

1095
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: defensive performances since two thousand are like both defenses in

1096
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: that game and then the Eagles defense in twenty twenty two.

1097
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: Wow. So yeah, maybe those twenty two Chiefs, maybe I'm

1098
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: not giving them enough love because their defense by the

1099
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: end was playing well, but then it didn't in the

1100
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, did much of the season, and this is

1101
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: where I really struggled. So I think the three best

1102
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winners since the last time it was in

1103
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: New Orleans are the twenty four Eagles, the thirteen Seahawks

1104
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: in the fourteen Patriots. When I wrote it down, that

1105
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: actually was the order. It might be recency bias because

1106
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: I had the Seahawks there for most of it, and

1107
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: then you think about the twenty fourteen Patriots, and that

1108
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: is what my heart wants to say. But if you

1109
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: go through just position by position, I think this Eagles

1110
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: team has a case to be made of where they

1111
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: are right now and the way that they finish this season.

1112
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: I think the finish of the season is crucial here.

1113
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: And if you're weighing like how they're playing at the end,

1114
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: boy does that matter. They won the Championship Game and

1115
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl by a combined fifty points, which is

1116
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: the third highest in NFL history, behind the eighty four

1117
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: Bears and the eighty nine nine Ers.

1118
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: It and I don't even I don't even count that

1119
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: because it should be sixty six points or whatever.

1120
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: Like you can say, well, maybe the Commanders were not

1121
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: quite championship game caliber, and I do like I wish

1122
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: that we had gotten to see them play the Lions

1123
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: just to see that matchup. But I mean, you know,

1124
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: fifty points is fifty points, and the and the Super

1125
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 2: Bowl game was insane. I do like I just from

1126
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: a talent standpoint, and that is the story of this

1127
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: of this team, is that they are just so talented.

1128
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: You look at the season they played, and you could

1129
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 2: say they played like four complete games all year long,

1130
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 2: and they still you know, they only lost three games,

1131
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: and they played their best football at the end of

1132
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: the season, no doubt about it. And in the Superlser

1133
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: talked about it. In a game where like Sakuon Barkley,

1134
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: who was the star of the season, gets mostly muted, like,

1135
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: they still put up forty points and dominate, and I'm

1136
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: glad to hear you put them at that level. And

1137
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: it's not just me who was so close enough.

1138
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: I think the only reason why I wanted to do

1139
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: this exercise. Yeah, it's the reason I wanted to do

1140
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: this exercise. I was like, there's no way there's more

1141
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: than three or four that are better. And then I

1142
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: went through it, and it's funny because I'm looking at

1143
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: one note card I had them first. On the other,

1144
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: I like had this season. This is why I would

1145
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: be bad at being on one SEWS, I haven't really

1146
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: made up my mind. Here's the case for the Seahawks.

1147
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: They had a good case, kind of like the Eagles

1148
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: this year, where even the losses they had that season

1149
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: were very close, which actually, you know, the Eagles did

1150
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 1: have that one decisive w it was back in Week

1151
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: four against the Bucks. But the Seahawks all their games

1152
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: were close. They had a great postseason run. They beat

1153
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: the Packers, it was a very good Packers team pretty convincingly.

1154
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: They beat a really good forty nine Ers team in

1155
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: that NFC Championship. You know, that was tight, but it

1156
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: was good. And then you have that Super Bowl which

1157
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: finishes in a similar way to this one, and you

1158
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: look at the players that are on this team and

1159
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: it's mostly defense, Like that was the year that Legion

1160
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: of Boom actually finished number one in defensive DVO. That

1161
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,479
Speaker 1: was their best defensive season. And all these potential future

1162
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers showing out against a historic offense scoring

1163
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: wise in the Super Bowl. The one thing you could

1164
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: hold against them is over the course of the season,

1165
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, tenth in offense is twenty thirteen Russell Wilson.

1166
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: You know, at the level of a Brady or Mahomes, Like, no,

1167
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: it's he's obviously not. Neither is Jalen Hurts. Although Jalen Hurts,

1168
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, is playing excellent in the postseason. So was

1169
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. But you know, the quarterback, maybe the offense

1170
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: is a little lower, but you know, you got Marshawn there.

1171
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: If I'm thinking of going with that team, that is

1172
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: an awesome team, it's tough to make a case against them.

1173
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: I think that if I'm thinking about like how that

1174
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: game would actually play out, I mean, Marshall Lynch is

1175
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 2: so awesome, but I just don't think anybody was running

1176
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 2: on this this Eagles defense, and so I think, like

1177
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about the that side of the

1178
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: matchup from the Eagles on the other side, like, I mean,

1179
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they could put up forty on the

1180
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: lesion of Boom, but I think between having multiples, because

1181
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: they have answers on Saquon and the Guy and aj

1182
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: Brown Demante Smith on the outside, I feel like they

1183
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 2: would be able to find more answers.

1184
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: Than well, if anyone would have answers, it would be

1185
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: that Seahawks team. In the passing game, I think they

1186
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: would make Jalen Hurts. Look closer to the regular season

1187
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, And so then it would come down to

1188
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: like which defenses can make big plays, in which team

1189
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 1: could run the ball maybe a little better, like between

1190
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: Saquon and Marshawn Lynch, Like who actually gets it?

1191
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: How many Hall of famers on that Seahawks team do

1192
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: you know? Off hand?

1193
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: I mean Earl Thomas even't even getting which is crazy

1194
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: right now. No, I think he should should be. I

1195
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: feel like he was up for I think he was

1196
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: eligible this year and he didn't even make the finals. Like,

1197
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: let's take us back to how people actually thought about

1198
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: it back then. He was the best safety in the

1199
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: league easily for a number of like.

1200
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: Come on, Hall of Fame caliber players. We're talking Richard Sherman.

1201
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: Very young, Bobby Wagner just started, Michael Michael Bettett won't

1202
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: get the credit, and neither of Cliff April. But they're

1203
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: they're like closer to Jalen Carter level than they are

1204
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: to Josh Sweat. The way they were playing at that point,

1205
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: that was a completely sick edge duo. And then, like

1206
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: really good offensive players do, like a good offensive line,

1207
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: you have have obviously uh Baldwin, maybe not as good

1208
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: at receiver, but still a very good team.

1209
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: And then the Seagles team. You've got Lane Johnson, AJ Brown,

1210
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: Saquan potentially, you know, maybe Jalen Carter you think is

1211
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: on that path. And then there's obviously Tenner McKain.

1212
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: And then the case for the Patriots, which I think

1213
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: is a strong one at first they had them first.

1214
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: That year was like a collision course all season Patriots Seahawks,

1215
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: the best Patriots team that they had had since O seven,

1216
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: balanced the top five to six in offense and defense.

1217
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: Very good on offense, especially Brady basically in his prime,

1218
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: which that's an edge over Russell Wilson and Jalen Hurts.

1219
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: And they ended up beating the Legion of Boom, the

1220
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: number one defense coming off that title, trying to win

1221
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: too in a row. Their offense was better that year

1222
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: as well, so that year was was great. It reminded

1223
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: me of Saints Colts when they played in the Super Bowl,

1224
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: where it was the clear number one offense versus the

1225
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: clear number one defense, and both teams are great around them,

1226
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: great head coaches, obviously a great ending and they had

1227
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: to come back in that game like that you know,

1228
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: there's a case. There's a case there for the Patriots.

1229
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it depends what you're measuring. Like, I

1230
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: think that is a more impressive, uh, you know string

1231
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: of defeats than that, the than the Eagles had in

1232
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

1233
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: Potentially they also waxed Andrew lack Colts like forty five

1234
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: to seven in the AFC champions a very similar type

1235
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 1: of championship game performance to the Eagles against the team

1236
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: that was just overmatched. A similar divisional round where the Eagles,

1237
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, scrape through and you know, I wonder what

1238
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: the Rams are thinking about today, by the way, like

1239
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: they're the only team.

1240
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: That's the one. You know, you mentioned the Julio Jones

1241
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: play from the twenty seventeen season. I mean, that's the

1242
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: that's the one. What if from this Eagles run is

1243
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: you know, Jalen Carr doesn't make those two plays at

1244
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: the end of the game, do the Rams go and score?

1245
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: And then maybe they do.

1246
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: That's the thing is, like all these teams, even in

1247
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: the top four, if you look at like the twenty

1248
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: nineteen Chiefs, they're down ten late in the third or

1249
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: going into the fourth against the forty nine Ers, in

1250
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: the Super The Patriots were down fourteen points twice in

1251
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: the divisional round and have to start like almost breaking

1252
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: the rules with the types of plays they're coming up

1253
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: with against the Ravens. Did like somehow come back in

1254
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: that game and like scrape through All these teams have

1255
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: close calls the Seahawks had against the forty nine Ers.

1256
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: Did you think about did you think about who was

1257
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: the best of the Super Bowl losers?

1258
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: No, the Eagles would certainly be up there. I think

1259
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen Patriots would be up there.

1260
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the twenty fourteen Seahawks you talked

1261
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: about as well.

1262
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: They would be up there. I think the first forty

1263
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: nine Ers team that lost would have been up there.

1264
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: But man, is this is stupid off season stuff. I'm

1265
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: happy to be in the off season.

1266
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: Football's back, as they say, funny.

1267
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: You say that, and so you know, I started the

1268
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: show and just started saying that, because that's like just

1269
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: a stupid bit. I had that, Like people are always

1270
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: saying football is back, like through every point of the offseason,

1271
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: and that would be like a fun little outro there.

1272
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: Just kept going with it. But football is not back. Now.

1273
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: I don't think I can keep using it.

1274
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: I think you're retiring it.

1275
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: I think it's done right. I mean it's purpose, they

1276
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: had fun.

1277
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: What's the what's the way you go? Football's forward?

1278
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is it's a problem that I

1279
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: am solving in real time, making me panic, But I

1280
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: do want to talk a little bit football is we

1281
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: we Uh. I'm excited about this time of year specifically,

1282
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: like it's a pretty mad dash to the combine. We're

1283
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: less than two weeks away from the combine and it's

1284
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: like free agency, like franchise tags start next week. I'm

1285
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: going to do a tag primer tomorrow, just like going

1286
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: over who's getting tagged who's not with Nick Schook. Pretty

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Speaker 1: soon the top one to one free agents are going

1288
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: to be out. We're going to do some off season

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Speaker 1: previews and then free agencies here in like four weeks essentially,

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Speaker 1: and so it's kind of a mad dash to get there.

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Speaker 1: And this is this is I'm calling this Greg season.

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01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: Greg Season? Is yes about Greg seasons back?

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01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: Greg Is Jordan set that up for me that it's

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Speaker 1: just like, all right, this is this is Greg Season.

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01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: So I am I am fired up. I'm hoping everyone

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Speaker 1: stays tuned in on these daily shows. Bo what a feeling.

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01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: It's got to be for you. You kind of won

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01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. It's got to be good for the downloads,

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Speaker 1: good for the business. It's not bad to cover a champion.

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny is is, uh, you know we

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Speaker 2: did We did so much work last week, right, We

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Speaker 2: did nine shows over the course of the thing.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: You know, I was like up till up till you know,

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01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 2: five am on Sunday night writing And the one piece

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Speaker 2: of feedback I got from the higher ups is I

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01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: also took a video of Jalen Hurts, you know, sitting

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Speaker 2: in the hallway with the Lombardi trophy as he's smoking

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01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: his cigars, like a nine second video, and it was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: great job with that video. And it's like the most

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Speaker 2: it's the most downloaded video in the history of all city.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you know what, this is what this

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01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 2: is what we do, baby, it's all for that.

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Speaker 1: Well it if nothing else, it pays. It pays for

1315
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: your trip and then some and then something you should

1316
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: convince the like, hey, send me every year I can

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Speaker 1: get I can get you videos like that.

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Speaker 2: I got all videos in me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even if the Eagles don't make it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine, you know, how much you're gonna

1321
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: be crushing your co host, Zach Berman on a daily base.

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01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: I can only imagine how how obnoxious the Eagles fans

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01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: are gonna be, Like, what is this next week? What

1324
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: is this next year gonna be?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Before I say goodbye to you for these Eagles fans

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Speaker 1: in the city of Philadelphia, because you're not That wasn't

1328
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: just like a plucky upstart. Now you guys are your

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01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: two time champions, two out of three years, making it.

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Speaker 1: You gotta feel great about what's coming up next year,

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Speaker 1: in the next few years. Give me just a quick

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Speaker 1: preview of what Philadelphia like. How obnoxious we can expect

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01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: the Eagles fans coming into stadium is gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be, Yeah, I mean as obnoxious as it gets. That's

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01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 2: you know, there's pride in the obnoxiousness we got with

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01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: the parade on Friday moved because of impending rain, so

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Speaker 2: that'll be fun. And then yeah, I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: I would expect that if the Eagles come out slow

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01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: in the first half of Week one, expect the booths

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Speaker 2: to rain down.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, things are going to change but they will,

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Speaker 1: they will be atop those power ring So let's hit

1343
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:26,479
Speaker 1: let's hit the music, please, rambling over here. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I'll be back on Thursday. It's going to be with

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01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: Nick Shook. We also have a great interview with Kobe Turner.

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Speaker 1: But if we're talking a little franchise tag on that

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01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: show and you look yeah, when you're doing the franchise

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Speaker 1: tag primer right before Valentine's Day, it's Greg season. I

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Speaker 1: can't stick with that one.

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Speaker 2: There