Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, would rather be drinking at
Speaker 1: the Cozy? Yeah? Well, welcome to another edition of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast, presented by the United States Marine Corps.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan hands As I'm joining in a
Speaker 1: room that's filled with heroes Mark Sassler, Chris Westling, and
Speaker 1: and Greg rosa Thal. What is up, boys, drinking at
Speaker 1: the Cozy? It's been a minute. I have to rectify that.
Speaker 1: The best thing about the Cozy is when the holidays come.
Speaker 1: And Mark you know this very well. When the holidays come,
Speaker 1: they really go all out with the decorations and put
Speaker 1: the lights all over the It's a pretty cool like
Speaker 1: southern California in the holidays vibe, don't I think they
Speaker 1: keep it up for dog. Mark would to see months
Speaker 1: and months after and they've repainted the outside. But I
Speaker 1: think it's been a while since any of us have
Speaker 1: been inside. I gotta rectify that. Uh. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Tuesday edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. We have
Speaker 1: so much to get to. We're going to finish out
Speaker 1: Week nine with our Monday Night football recap NFC East
Speaker 1: battle between the Cowboys and Giants. Also, we're gonna preview
Speaker 1: the first game of Week ten, a nice a f
Speaker 1: C West battle at the black Hole. Uh. That should
Speaker 1: be a fun game to watch. Potentially, we got a
Speaker 1: nice seg, good segs, Greg Road a banger, and his
Speaker 1: most recent debrief column, what great intro. What we've loved
Speaker 1: about the twenty nineteen season so far. It's like that
Speaker 1: time of year, you know, that's mid season. It's kind
Speaker 1: of is at the dog days. You got six teams
Speaker 1: off this week. This is where you got to grind through.
Speaker 1: And what cares you through is the love. You know,
Speaker 1: That's what gives you the energy keeps you going to work.
Speaker 1: Otherwise then you're just a miserable, sad sack. Uh. Maybe
Speaker 1: if we have some time, we'll dig into an issue
Speaker 1: behind the scenes with Eric who who is not happy
Speaker 1: with the old juser In regards to today's seg, it
Speaker 1: wasn't behind the scenes ten minutes ago. But no for
Speaker 1: the listeners, off Mike, Off Mike. But before we do
Speaker 1: any of that, Uh oh yeah, And we're gonna do
Speaker 1: some news and that's good because there's some big news
Speaker 1: to talk about. But let's start at the meadow ends
Speaker 1: Prescott and the gun trips to the left Snap back
Speaker 1: fur Man rush time to throw it all in the
Speaker 1: line open to the twenty five yard line. How Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper all tend to the five to the paylog touchdown
Speaker 1: A Lari Cooper tremendous protection for Press Scott forty five
Speaker 1: to Cooper on third down. Brad Sham the sham God
Speaker 1: with the call k L R. D oh Man. Do
Speaker 1: you think anybody was dreading the film room more than Giants?
Speaker 1: Rookie cornerback DeAndre Baker, who you know? Everyone playing zone
Speaker 1: on the biggest man on the biggest play of the game.
Speaker 1: DeAndre thinks they're playing zone and I'm Mary Cooper walks
Speaker 1: into the end zone forty five yards with the clinching score. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys wint to eighteen over the Giants at the
Speaker 1: Metal Lands and a game where West the Cowboys certainly
Speaker 1: didn't bring their a game. This is a one point
Speaker 1: game uh entering the fourth quarter. Um, so this was
Speaker 1: not the blowout it appeared on the final score. However,
Speaker 1: they did what they had to do, which was pulled
Speaker 1: away from an inferior opponent and they move up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that looked familiar the opening portion of that game with
Speaker 1: the the interception on the first pass and then you
Speaker 1: had Randall Cops touchdown, nullified Cops fumble and scoring territory.
Speaker 1: And Dak Prescott I thought put it pretty well after
Speaker 1: the game. You guys saw the game. They weren't beating us.
Speaker 1: It was us getting in our own damn way. And
Speaker 1: when we're rolling into what we do, there's there isn't
Speaker 1: a team in the league that can stop us. And
Speaker 1: I think that describes the Cowboys perfectly. When they lost
Speaker 1: to the Saints, when they lost the Packers, when they
Speaker 1: lost the Jets, they were getting in their own way,
Speaker 1: and they have to prove that they're not going to
Speaker 1: do that against a good team. They have beaten a
Speaker 1: string of tomato cans. The one question left about this
Speaker 1: team can they get out of their own damn way
Speaker 1: against the cream of the NFC crop. They survived the
Speaker 1: game where Dak Prescott I thought played his worst game
Speaker 1: of the year for about three quarters And maybe that
Speaker 1: happens when you you're coming out of a buy and
Speaker 1: you throw an interception on your first path of the
Speaker 1: game that you just aren't feeling comfortable, You're not seeing
Speaker 1: the field. Most of their big plays were just wide open,
Speaker 1: and then he gets it together. I'm not worried about
Speaker 1: him because I think he's played really well this year.
Speaker 1: If I'm a Cowboys fan of my big takeaway is
Speaker 1: just this defensive line, which I think was a weakness
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, is now a huge asset to
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence is playing with his hair on fire again
Speaker 1: after he was really coming slowly off that shoulder surgery
Speaker 1: to start the r Robert Quinn has a lot of speed,
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett uh is gonna be a big time pick
Speaker 1: up for them, and Malik Collins has been pretty good
Speaker 1: for them all year. Suddenly that's a huge strength, and
Speaker 1: that was kind of my big takeaway from from this game.
Speaker 1: There were some images that I loved from this game
Speaker 1: that made me feel reminiscent for decades of old and
Speaker 1: it was weird uniform tweet quirks, like Michael Bennett's shoulder pads,
Speaker 1: which you know he's worn it that way before, but
Speaker 1: he looks, you know, he looks like he's basically just
Speaker 1: wearing a padded T shirt underneath his jersey. But the
Speaker 1: old school Giants uniforms, which I would lobby them hard
Speaker 1: just to bring back full time because with Giants and
Speaker 1: Jets uniforms in general, it seems like you go about
Speaker 1: twenty years with the incarnation and then you go back
Speaker 1: to what it was previously. They looked awesome, and it's
Speaker 1: not just the hell it. People were on fire about
Speaker 1: bringing back the Giants in block lettering with the underline,
Speaker 1: which is the classic eighties iteration uh. And they've had
Speaker 1: the n Y for a bunch of years now. But
Speaker 1: it's not just that. It's the font on the number
Speaker 1: and especially the lettering on the back of the jersey.
Speaker 1: And if you grew up in the Northeast, like we did,
Speaker 1: you connect that to LT and Bivarro and LT was there,
Speaker 1: and I think that helped. You know, Monday Night takes
Speaker 1: on a different tone than ten am West Coast on
Speaker 1: some stadium, you know, somewhere else. That's what they're trying
Speaker 1: to sell, the whole different deal in the house. You've
Speaker 1: given that telecast a compliment. I'm just saying that the
Speaker 1: vibe in the stadium could because the game was tight
Speaker 1: until the beautiful Black Cat came rolling out and literally
Speaker 1: changed the game. It kind of reminded me a little
Speaker 1: bit of when the lights went out during the Ravens
Speaker 1: nine or Super Bowl where there was even a Mari
Speaker 1: Cooper who said afterwards that he went out with a
Speaker 1: bang up knee, that the whole pause in the action
Speaker 1: going into then into halftime gave him a chance to
Speaker 1: rest up, and he played an awesome second half. We
Speaker 1: want to hear Kevin Harlan, who had one of the
Speaker 1: greatest calls in NFL history, was the drunk that ran
Speaker 1: onto the field Monday Night Football a year or two ago.
Speaker 1: So in this situation, what I want listeners to be
Speaker 1: plugged into because it is not hard. It is not
Speaker 1: easy to do the job in general of a play
Speaker 1: by play man for professional football. But what he's able
Speaker 1: to do here and you'll see, is not only call
Speaker 1: the play, which is the completion I believe to Evan
Speaker 1: Ingram of the Giants, but also simultaneously called the cat's
Speaker 1: initial uh, you know, getting upon the scene and then
Speaker 1: what happens afterwards. Let's listen to Harlan. Oh, there's a
Speaker 1: cat of a black cat is taking the field. A
Speaker 1: black cat is running from the twenty to the near
Speaker 1: side of the ten from the Dallas. Here's a short
Speaker 1: throat down the middle, cought blight Ingram caught at the
Speaker 1: thirty five, went to the thirty. That's hard the other
Speaker 1: way and ingram at up the Dallas Cowboys. It's a
Speaker 1: catch run of fifteen. Now stop at the fifty. So
Speaker 1: is it bad luck for the Giants? Cowboys don't know,
Speaker 1: but they've stopped playing. The players with hands on hips
Speaker 1: are watching the camp running zigzag all over the field.
Speaker 1: Now a policeman, State troopers come on the field, and
Speaker 1: the cat runs into the end zone and the cat,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, my favorite part we didn't even
Speaker 1: have in there where he used it. Does a sponsor
Speaker 1: read that the Cats entered the cdr W zone seamless
Speaker 1: easy Pilan that he is the best of the business
Speaker 1: in Westwood one Radio. So uh yeah. That was the
Speaker 1: turning point in the game in a weird way, not
Speaker 1: because of the cat or maybe because of the cat,
Speaker 1: but that Cowboys kind of started to take control of
Speaker 1: Black Cats have power. I think they do. I think
Speaker 1: that everybody on the telecast and everyone was upset that
Speaker 1: it didn't happen before Halloween, which would have made it
Speaker 1: an instant sports classic. I think I think it still
Speaker 1: will be one of indelible images of twenty I think
Speaker 1: my kids will remember it forever. It was like it
Speaker 1: was bedlam. It was as if they were told they
Speaker 1: were just given a week off from school to hang
Speaker 1: out at Disneyland. There was just screaming and laughing. I
Speaker 1: couldn't hear anything for about two minutes straight. They were
Speaker 1: they were in love. Hey West, how about a turn
Speaker 1: back the clock? Performance late and vanderesh out with a
Speaker 1: neck injury, insteps Shaun Lee and he leads the game
Speaker 1: with twelve tackles, including a stuff for a loss. Sae
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley couldn't get away from him. How about that
Speaker 1: Shawn Lee still doing the thing? Yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: answer the question I had. I figured he could still
Speaker 1: stop the run. But he was out there playing really
Speaker 1: well in pass coverage on wide receivers and tight ends,
Speaker 1: and you don't see that from thirty two or thirty
Speaker 1: three year old linebackers. That Dexter Lawrence played to me
Speaker 1: was at the goal line where I had. I'm watching
Speaker 1: on condensed and they don't show replace. I had to
Speaker 1: rewind that four times to figure out how the guy
Speaker 1: on the left side of defensive line is stuffing the
Speaker 1: guy two yards behind the line of scrimmage on the
Speaker 1: right side of the line. I think Zeke looking better
Speaker 1: the last couple of games is pretty huge for Dallas.
Speaker 1: Took him a little while to get going, kind of
Speaker 1: like Melvin Gordon after the holdout, makes uh, makes some sense.
Speaker 1: I think the Giants have to be a little concerned
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones leads the NFL and turnovers by a
Speaker 1: decent margin. Now he's fumbled a lot, He's thrown a
Speaker 1: lot of interceptions like that, and not saying I'm overly concerned,
Speaker 1: but he's he's got to cut that out a little bit.
Speaker 1: Is a rookie, I get it, this happens. Should we
Speaker 1: get an update on Dave Gettiman's victory lap right, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it's anyhow if that first game hadn't happened
Speaker 1: the way that it did, I think he's having a
Speaker 1: totally normal rookie season. And he did make a couple
Speaker 1: of throws in that game, uh that were really impressive.
Speaker 1: That make you think that's why you love Dania Jones.
Speaker 1: He doesn't look like a buster or anything. I knew
Speaker 1: I was trying. I was forgetting something. This was the
Speaker 1: most lily livered coach game I've ever seen out of
Speaker 1: a Pat Sherman and Jason Garrett for that matter, especially
Speaker 1: at the end. These guys have never met a fourth
Speaker 1: and three inside the ten yard line that they can't
Speaker 1: kick a field goal. They had four field goals under
Speaker 1: thirty yards go for a touchdown. At some point you
Speaker 1: understand what type of game you're in and what type
Speaker 1: of defense that you have. You're not gonna hold the
Speaker 1: Cowboys under twenty points after field They tried very very
Speaker 1: hard to make Jason Witten the ultracenterpiece last night. I
Speaker 1: had a good game. That's a pretty good season. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's not having a good season. Is slow
Speaker 1: as you can be, Well, he doesn't have foot speed us.
Speaker 1: This answers or will give us a lot of insight
Speaker 1: into two teams. On Sunday Night, when the Cowboys welcomed
Speaker 1: the Vikings Al Chris and Michelle Vikings on the road
Speaker 1: against a good team versus Cowboys having to not shoot
Speaker 1: themselves selves in the foot against the good, against the
Speaker 1: Nonmato going to shatter. The last time they were on
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football, they beat the Eagles thirty seven to ten.
Speaker 1: You know what I want to say, how Kirk Cousins play.
Speaker 1: I really do. Every week I get more and more
Speaker 1: excited to see here you are. You are not alone?
Speaker 1: And all right, that's what's happening with Monday night football.
Speaker 1: Let's now hit the news. Did you just say go
Speaker 1: find Dr feel Good? So Mark Sessler and I were
Speaker 1: upstairs on Sunday getting ready for our Sky Sports hit
Speaker 1: with the great Neil Reynolds, and um we happen to
Speaker 1: have the audio on and who is that? Voices? That
Speaker 1: foolish of me to call? And Ricky do we have
Speaker 1: a little longer clip of that interaction between thomb and
Speaker 1: was it Spielman? I'll tell you. In this league, here's
Speaker 1: my rule, upper body, go see doctor feel Good and
Speaker 1: let her go. Did you just say go find doctor
Speaker 1: feel Good? Is that what you just said? Did I
Speaker 1: say that out loud? And then he asked another time?
Speaker 1: And maybe even a third time. Thom couldn't get over
Speaker 1: himself with it. Yeah it was. He hit it hard
Speaker 1: as if it was a bit that was, you know,
Speaker 1: registering with everyone on a ten decipel level. And I
Speaker 1: don't know that it was lower Yeah it was lower
Speaker 1: body see a real doctor, basically upper body who knew
Speaker 1: I kind of appreciate if you go th h O
Speaker 1: M that is the correct shortening of Thomas T O
Speaker 1: M is a little pretentious though, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, if you want to go through
Speaker 1: life with thumb, you're you've probably been getting that since
Speaker 1: he's going through life with very well, He's Yeah, he's fine.
Speaker 1: I've I've enjoyed that crew. I feel like he's leaning
Speaker 1: into who they are, like a wrestling tag team, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like a good cop bad cop type.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's just it's a
Speaker 1: it's there there. The game is their theater. You know,
Speaker 1: the world's a stage. Are allowed. I'd argue that bit
Speaker 1: did not hit though. I've been trying to tell you
Speaker 1: this about thom for years. This is what he does.
Speaker 1: He's playing a character. We might have to talk to
Speaker 1: Shadowy League figure. I think one of the best offseason
Speaker 1: shows we could do is the power rankings of the
Speaker 1: of the announcing teams. Would we be able to do that,
Speaker 1: then we will do it. I've got pages of notes
Speaker 1: on it. All right, let's get to the news. Cam
Speaker 1: Newton looks like he's done for the year in all likelihood,
Speaker 1: Um he has been placed on i R. The Panthers
Speaker 1: announced it with a foot injury UH, an injury that
Speaker 1: first popped up in the preseason during his I think
Speaker 1: only series he played in the preseason, he he uh
Speaker 1: suffered a foot spring and then we learned after he
Speaker 1: played a little bit poorly in the regular season went
Speaker 1: back on the shelf after Week two, that it was
Speaker 1: the dreaded Liz frank uh injury. And then there was
Speaker 1: an ominous report last week that he was not getting
Speaker 1: any better and Kyle Allen would continue to start well.
Speaker 1: This is the logical conclusion to it all Mark cam
Speaker 1: Newton heads to I are most likely done for the season,
Speaker 1: although there is a way apparently to that he could
Speaker 1: come back in some capacity. I heard that earlier today.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that has shifted since then, but uh,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, his season is over and quite possibly his
Speaker 1: Panthers careers. Overeah, I don't think he's I don't think
Speaker 1: we're gonna see him again this year. Uh. And it
Speaker 1: you know, he's been through a lot over the past
Speaker 1: year plus. This is a guy that did not miss
Speaker 1: more than three games over his first a hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty six eligible audience and was the picture of durability
Speaker 1: taking endless punishment, and it's caught up with him two
Speaker 1: shoulder surgeries. We got the thing going on this year,
Speaker 1: and the Panthers can part ways with nothing more than
Speaker 1: about two million in dead cap space if they ever
Speaker 1: wanted to move on, and I don't think you do
Speaker 1: unless you have a much better option that the entire
Speaker 1: organization is into. But I would imagine that there would
Speaker 1: be on a couple other teams out there that could
Speaker 1: look at Cam Newton as a major spice up factor.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Cam Newton on the Bears or on
Speaker 1: the Bengals, or even if the Dolphins decided we're not
Speaker 1: going to get that guy in the craft which version though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine him because right, who is which
Speaker 1: version is fair? But if he's checked out healthy. The
Speaker 1: foot injury, the foot injury ruined a season, but the shoulder,
Speaker 1: which has been operated on twice in the past two years,
Speaker 1: that was the major problem early in the season. Yes,
Speaker 1: he couldn't move either because of the foot thing, but
Speaker 1: the throws is what had everyone freaking out. Before he
Speaker 1: went on the shelf. He's never been a top shelf passer.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe the half a season during his m
Speaker 1: v P year, but he's been a dual purpose quarterback
Speaker 1: and we thought he might be the exception to the
Speaker 1: durability concerns of running quarterbacks because he's so big and
Speaker 1: so tough and like Mark said, only missed what three
Speaker 1: games over the early portion of his career. But you
Speaker 1: just look through the history of running quarterbacks and this
Speaker 1: is when they decline. But that's true, and you do
Speaker 1: wonder about that as he's, you know, turning thirty one
Speaker 1: next year. But I would say he was a top
Speaker 1: shelf quarterback throwing the ball in North Turner's offense for
Speaker 1: half a season for more which was which was a
Speaker 1: totally different offense where he wasn't going downfield anymore and
Speaker 1: he was just settling for short but making making good decision,
Speaker 1: making good throws using his legs. Still enough, he's you know,
Speaker 1: the greatest red zone weapon of the decade. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: not even a question in terms of the numbers. Was
Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know a lot of that
Speaker 1: was because of his legs, But won't someone wouldn't that absolutely.
Speaker 1: The The arm is is a different thing the foot
Speaker 1: does it does concern you. I just don't think the
Speaker 1: Panthers would be interested in getting rid of them unless
Speaker 1: they were getting a ton in return, because his salary
Speaker 1: is so low. I mean, he's making eighteen point six
Speaker 1: million dollars for a quarterback right now. That's actually a
Speaker 1: huge bargain. I think even if he was put on
Speaker 1: the free agent if he was put on in free agency,
Speaker 1: which isn't gonna happen because they could trade him or
Speaker 1: he'll be back with the team, there'd be plenty of
Speaker 1: teams who would line up to still pay him a
Speaker 1: lot of money just for the chance that he's the
Speaker 1: old Cam Newton, because that would be such an upgrade.
Speaker 1: But I have a hard time even guessing who's the
Speaker 1: coach going to be next year, who's the GM gonna
Speaker 1: be next year? You don't know in Carolina, and and
Speaker 1: without knowing that, how can you guess who's the quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he can't change his style like
Speaker 1: you said he already did last year. This transition started
Speaker 1: three or four years ago with the Parthers saying we
Speaker 1: can't continue to run him as his own read quarterback.
Speaker 1: We've got to use the big bend model. And make
Speaker 1: him a quicker decision quarterback making quick passes, and like
Speaker 1: Greg said, he started that last year. I just don't
Speaker 1: know will that body hold up if he continues to
Speaker 1: play the dual purpose style. I wonder if he came
Speaker 1: into the league just a little too early. I feel
Speaker 1: like teams are with Lamar and Kyler Murray our start
Speaker 1: to meet the quarterbacks a little more hands A runover guy. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: and early in his career he certainly could make people
Speaker 1: I just mean like design really make an offense around
Speaker 1: his his dual threat ability. You would like to see
Speaker 1: a team commit to that, But maybe maybe he's a
Speaker 1: v P. Moving on, Doug Moron has made his decision.
Speaker 1: Nick Foles will regain his starting job with the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: sending Gardner Meanshew Uh to the bench after eight weeks
Speaker 1: of very solid play. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: Maron said he he thought about it hard, it was
Speaker 1: his decision, and he wants to bring Foles back into
Speaker 1: the mix as the Jaguars look to make a playoff
Speaker 1: push in the second half. Here is some more of
Speaker 1: what Doug had to say. You've done a great job,
Speaker 1: and you know, I feel a whole lot different about
Speaker 1: him now than I did prior to him playing, and
Speaker 1: in a very positive way. Uh. We took some things
Speaker 1: and had some discussions on things that, um, we're gonna
Speaker 1: work on going forward, which we'll give him the ability
Speaker 1: to be a player in this league for a long time.
Speaker 1: And really believe that I was thinking about this. It's
Speaker 1: kind of a good spot right now. If you're a
Speaker 1: Jaguars fan, and I know you might be frustrated because
Speaker 1: you spent sixty dollars on the Minshew jersey and you
Speaker 1: have the mustache and you bought into the mania, and
Speaker 1: you're excited about him as a prospect going forward. But
Speaker 1: there are two ways this plays out. One well, there's
Speaker 1: three ways. One way is Falls is okay, and then
Speaker 1: they um have a decision to make in the off season.
Speaker 1: But the other the two other options are Falls really
Speaker 1: plays well, and we know we have no idea if
Speaker 1: he will or not because he was injured almost immediately
Speaker 1: this season. Falls plays really well, the Jaguars make a
Speaker 1: push in the second half, and then they have a
Speaker 1: decision to make or Falls is very mad and they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's no need to panic because we have a young
Speaker 1: quarterback in Minshew who we can turn to feel confidently
Speaker 1: going forward. But he's our guy, so you just kind
Speaker 1: of let it all play out. You also need two
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL now, and you can keep him
Speaker 1: and have Minshew for low cost depth, or you can
Speaker 1: trade him and have Minshew with no depth at all
Speaker 1: behind him. It's another team that you don't know what
Speaker 1: the future is gonna be, So to me, this move
Speaker 1: is about the present first and foremost. They want to
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs to keep their jobs. Doug Marone,
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, everyone there, and I'm excited to see Falls
Speaker 1: in this offense. I didn't expect DJ Shark and Chris
Speaker 1: Conley to be as explosive as they are. Uh. I
Speaker 1: think Minshew was a big part in that and bringing
Speaker 1: the best out of those guys. But and maybe this
Speaker 1: touchdown throw that Falls made even played a factor. I mean,
Speaker 1: he played two series and one of them included one
Speaker 1: of the prettiest passes any quarterbacks thrown all year. And
Speaker 1: that's the past that Falls got hurt on. And so
Speaker 1: I kind of want to see it because Falls good.
Speaker 1: Falls is fun, Like if you just started Falls his
Speaker 1: career in the last three years, you would think this
Speaker 1: guy's got a lot up potential. He's not over the hill,
Speaker 1: and I just I kind of want to see it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is Nick Foles time of
Speaker 1: year to where you know, who knows where we would
Speaker 1: be with Nick Foles had he started the last eight
Speaker 1: plus games. But Maron said it he looked at the
Speaker 1: overall body of work and Nick Foles, and of course
Speaker 1: you want to You invested a ton of money into this,
Speaker 1: and I think it starts right there. It starts right there,
Speaker 1: because if you want to just look at the let's
Speaker 1: say that Minshew was drafted in the first round and
Speaker 1: was playing this way. He doesn't get bench for anyone
Speaker 1: in the league, like you just keep it going. But
Speaker 1: the situation lends itself to this, And so I'm with
Speaker 1: you in the sense that you can't get out of
Speaker 1: this year without seeing what you have in Nick Foles.
Speaker 1: I do think it's strange if we go two more
Speaker 1: seasons and Minshew is sitting on the bench and we
Speaker 1: never see him again. I just don't think that's tenable.
Speaker 1: He's there's too much to work with and development. Someone's
Speaker 1: gonna come calling for him at some point. There's also
Speaker 1: something to be said for leaving the last taste in
Speaker 1: everyone's mouth Nick Foles Philadelphia success, and then try to
Speaker 1: flip that in the off season. Because and choose mobility
Speaker 1: worked really, really well behind this offensive line, I'll wonder
Speaker 1: how fools will work behind this offensive line. It makes sense.
Speaker 1: You always want to have a backup quarterback who can
Speaker 1: play and keep your season alive of disaster strikes. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he signed a four year, eighty eight million dollar deal
Speaker 1: twenty two million a year. He still has value on
Speaker 1: the market. I would think if they do make that decision,
Speaker 1: they would not keep keep around a backup at that rate.
Speaker 1: They would probably trade him Uh for salary cap purposes
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But I guess there's a scenario where they
Speaker 1: could couch it and have both guys on this roster
Speaker 1: going forward. I just doubt it. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that teammates next year. A backup gould be a backup
Speaker 1: that Uh comes in late in the season when Minshew
Speaker 1: gets hurt and Falls plays well, I think they'll both
Speaker 1: be on the roster. Yeah, I think Falls are gonna
Speaker 1: have to play well enough and everyone's gonna have to
Speaker 1: keep their jobs or then then things are just up
Speaker 1: in the air. Falls works in this offense, Well, well yeah,
Speaker 1: she won't. Let's just say what is the reaction because
Speaker 1: there's a there's a societal element to minshow two in
Speaker 1: a football fan element, and I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: bold of the Jaguars to benjam and do what they're
Speaker 1: doing the fulls. I give them some credit for thinking
Speaker 1: for themselves on this one number one. But let's say
Speaker 1: Folds goes out of the next two games and generates
Speaker 1: six or seven turn members. I'm just saying it's a
Speaker 1: possible because he's he's a fumbler too, and he can
Speaker 1: throw his share of intersections. What is the reaction and
Speaker 1: what do you do then? Because I think they tried
Speaker 1: to avoid stepping right into a big controversy by not
Speaker 1: starting fulls for the rest of the year. But you'll
Speaker 1: be right back in one um follow me on this
Speaker 1: if if you are a listener and you think that
Speaker 1: they would entertain moving falls in the offseason if it
Speaker 1: came to that, Listen to the cornerbacks. And we've kind
Speaker 1: of touched on this, but now it's becoming it's coming
Speaker 1: into focus even more. The quarterbacks that could be available
Speaker 1: to teams this offseason. Cam potentially Dalton, we know Mariotto,
Speaker 1: we know Phil Rivers, potentially Flacco, Eli Teddy Bridgewater, maybe
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, maybe Tom Brady. Tom Brady isn't maybe than
Speaker 1: Than Breezes even more of it. Maybe both of those
Speaker 1: guys have There's been no reporting connecting briefs. There's so
Speaker 1: much smoke, right, there's so much financial uh reasons for
Speaker 1: both the Saints and the Patriots that would make it
Speaker 1: very difficult to move on from either of those guys.
Speaker 1: They have very similar type contracts that they have to
Speaker 1: point there's a lot of big name I feel like
Speaker 1: this hasn't happened in a very long now. I would
Speaker 1: say there's a there are strong reasons why list is
Speaker 1: available to alright. Moving on, de Sean Jackson, who was
Speaker 1: supposed to be ripping the tops off defenses for the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, is instead heading to injured reserve. That abdomen
Speaker 1: injury that he suffered in Week one or a week
Speaker 1: two and is he attempted to come back on Sunday,
Speaker 1: pulled himself out of the lineup because he wasn't feeling
Speaker 1: right well. Now he needs core muscle surgery. So ded
Speaker 1: acts will exit the picture for the Eagles, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of Gregor what if scenario for Philadelphia, who could
Speaker 1: certainly use a guy like Jackson, And we've seen it
Speaker 1: this year. A lot of people, myself included, thought Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz could be an m VP type player. This year.
Speaker 1: The offense has not been explosive, and maybe if Jackson
Speaker 1: was there would have changed some things. It would have helped.
Speaker 1: I really think so. And he signed for the next
Speaker 1: two years at pretty reasonable salaries, so you know he
Speaker 1: should be back with them next year. You would think
Speaker 1: they have to work so hard to score. They moved
Speaker 1: down the field slowly. Maybe Jeffrey is a little healthier
Speaker 1: after the break, But I think I just who they're
Speaker 1: gonna be. Two tight ends, got Her and Urts a
Speaker 1: lot of running the ball, and their defense is gonna
Speaker 1: need to play better than it did the first six
Speaker 1: or seven weeks. There's some signs that that they might.
Speaker 1: This is doubly painful because I got the sense that
Speaker 1: they didn't make a trade at the deadline because they
Speaker 1: were counting on DeShawn Jackson to come back. And I've
Speaker 1: seen enough of mac Hollins. We don't need to see
Speaker 1: him anymore. What's wrong with j J Artha Whiteside that
Speaker 1: he can't get on the field. He was on the
Speaker 1: field for the first three or four weeks and like Collins,
Speaker 1: could not you know, he's got a second capitalize on
Speaker 1: his targets and was not getting the ball too often.
Speaker 1: I would have named our Sega Thumb because you could
Speaker 1: then have thumb Arthega or or thombounce it Tom and
Speaker 1: take that and get you know, keep it at Arthega.
Speaker 1: So even though it says people are gonna say, oh,
Speaker 1: I should say thomb No, no, no, you save that
Speaker 1: for Arthega. I mean another guy that's probably had some struggles, uh,
Speaker 1: you know with friends and others people for a long
Speaker 1: time going on there. Uh, it's been a bad season
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, Mark as you know. Uh and this week
Speaker 1: the criticism is piling up at the quarterback position at
Speaker 1: head coach. But uh, they didn't need this. Germaine Whitehead,
Speaker 1: who's a starting safety, started all eight games for the team.
Speaker 1: After a really bad game against the Broncos in which
Speaker 1: he whipped on a tackle um no offense long touchdown
Speaker 1: catch at mile high, some fans got after him on
Speaker 1: Twitter and he could not resist the urge to punch back,
Speaker 1: and punch back he did well. It was Dustin Fox, right,
Speaker 1: former player, and he was getting people. But he hit
Speaker 1: back at Fox and others with some racial epithets and
Speaker 1: also uh, some threats, some physical threats. He all people
Speaker 1: are saying, where's your address? He listed the Brown's facility,
Speaker 1: obviously a wretched look for whitehead who should know better. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the Browns promptly, um, you know, took him to
Speaker 1: task with an official statement on Sunday night and then
Speaker 1: placed him on waivers on Sunday. So this is not
Speaker 1: just like a bottom of the roster guy. He was
Speaker 1: a starting safety on the team and now his his
Speaker 1: tenure with the Browns is over, and I imagine this
Speaker 1: is going to hurt him finding a job. Released him
Speaker 1: as they should. I mean, this isn't the dawn of
Speaker 1: Twitter or the dawn of social media. There are courses
Speaker 1: heaped on these players all off season and into the
Speaker 1: season about what is going to cost you career wise
Speaker 1: if you choose to take a major misstep on Twitter
Speaker 1: or et cetera. It is got to suck to be
Speaker 1: a player and have to deal with if you have
Speaker 1: a tough performance. People have no idea how to assess
Speaker 1: what a safety is doing on any given play, and
Speaker 1: people just coming at you and you have to use
Speaker 1: the self control to not fire back. But if you don't,
Speaker 1: if you choose not to, teams are not going to
Speaker 1: put up with it, especially with what he wrote. I've
Speaker 1: said that to you so many times over the years.
Speaker 1: Mark to me, I pulled you aside. I said, delete
Speaker 1: that tweet. I mean, I'll play with fire, but I'm
Speaker 1: not on an NFL stop so I think the lives
Speaker 1: of our listeners. It's no way to build, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, Okay, you think these players have it bad?
Speaker 1: Asked asked Ricky or Colleen Wolf like women in sports,
Speaker 1: they've got it even worse on Twitter and and yeah
Speaker 1: and fire back either half the time and it's just
Speaker 1: like or all the time. Yeah, not fair. I would
Speaker 1: if you wanted to throw out some threats people that
Speaker 1: are being inappropriate toward you, Riggy, I would stand behind you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd do like a dead spit thing. I'd walk out.
Speaker 1: You would That's really sweet? Absolutely market could you then
Speaker 1: quietly returned to the I was gonna say, I don't
Speaker 1: feel like that's your end game. I'd go home and
Speaker 1: talked to Emily about what happened, and then I just
Speaker 1: I do the move. Larry David famously um he worked
Speaker 1: for SNL briefly Saturday Night Live, and he was not
Speaker 1: a good fit there because he's a weirdo. A beautiful weirdo,
Speaker 1: but a weirdo. And one day he was frustrated that
Speaker 1: the things weren't going right, so he just he quit.
Speaker 1: He announced his quitting and he walked out. And then, uh,
Speaker 1: the following week, he just came back to the office
Speaker 1: and tried to act like nothing happened. Didn't work out.
Speaker 1: George Costanza did the same thing, and a sign filed up.
Speaker 1: I believe he worked with Julie Louis dreyfuss On said
Speaker 1: he did, well, what do you guys make of of
Speaker 1: the Browns, you know, taking off, you know, taking him
Speaker 1: off the roster, but they also hired Kareem Hunt. So
Speaker 1: do you think it's just like a PR move or
Speaker 1: how do you I mean, I don't know. I wondered
Speaker 1: if if the perception was not out there that Freddie
Speaker 1: Kitchens has no control over these players, because that is perception.
Speaker 1: With the penalties and Baker Mayfield shaving three times when
Speaker 1: he shows up, the players wearing bad cleats, It's all
Speaker 1: part of the same story that's been going on for
Speaker 1: two months. I was gonna ask Mark, do you think
Speaker 1: if this was any other team but the Browns, would
Speaker 1: it still be the same outcome. I think a bunch
Speaker 1: of teams would have gotten rid of a player that
Speaker 1: did what he did. But I would say, to Erica's point,
Speaker 1: the Browns, if you look at what they've done under
Speaker 1: John Dorsey, it there is reason to suggest there's some
Speaker 1: hypocrisy going on there and that they've signed players that
Speaker 1: don't fall into the conduct zone at all. For what
Speaker 1: you'd want to put out there for your friends, I
Speaker 1: I would venture to say he's played almost every snap
Speaker 1: this season for them. Uh that if he had not
Speaker 1: gotten run over by Noah fanse in in Ah. You know,
Speaker 1: to a player, I would say would be an unfortunate way,
Speaker 1: I guess would be the nicest way to say it
Speaker 1: and have a disastrous game. That he might not have
Speaker 1: been cut And there was a lot of pr He
Speaker 1: said he was playing with a broken hand, Well like
Speaker 1: a broken brain. Come on, bro User. Moving on the
Speaker 1: final word on that story, Uh, the Athletic put out
Speaker 1: a story, uh that you know, got some buzz. On Monday,
Speaker 1: Vincent bon Signori wrote that there's a possibility of the
Speaker 1: Chargers moving to London. It's something that's been broached among
Speaker 1: league personnel. And that same report also indicated the team
Speaker 1: would quote at least listen if the prospect was broached, Okay,
Speaker 1: And that was kind of the extent of the reporting
Speaker 1: around this, and then it went into It was a
Speaker 1: long piece that featured UM quotes from Dean Spanos, the
Speaker 1: Charger's owner, but not in direct connection uh to that report,
Speaker 1: and also some high ranking nfl UK officials involved with it.
Speaker 1: But at all UM doesn't seem to have any legs
Speaker 1: at least right now, because Dean Spanos was approached by
Speaker 1: UM Chargers Beat reporters today Tuesday, and he had this
Speaker 1: to say, We're not going to London. We're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: We planned to be in l A for a long time.
Speaker 1: That was bulls. That story via the l A Times
Speaker 1: and then the Chargers Twitter account. Minutes later, UM piped
Speaker 1: in with this famous scene from the Scorsese film The
Speaker 1: Wolf of Wall Street. I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving
Speaker 1: I love dold you like this movie, Mark, I loved it.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. DiCaprio one of the great underrated actors.
Speaker 1: He's great and and rock and ball to me a scene? Uh, Greg,
Speaker 1: what did this have this all play for you? I
Speaker 1: don't know what to make of it, other than being
Speaker 1: clear on what he actually reported. Wasn't you know, too aggressive?
Speaker 1: He just he said there were some league discussions. You know,
Speaker 1: It's it's hard to under to know where in the
Speaker 1: league or how important that would in that you know,
Speaker 1: someone within the Chargers that they would listen. And yet
Speaker 1: the the article has a quote from Spanos right off
Speaker 1: the top that you know, said they're committed to l
Speaker 1: A if he had used the words, I think that
Speaker 1: he used Monday and they used and that was the
Speaker 1: quote in the piece. Is there even is there a
Speaker 1: that's what? That's what the question? I don't know what
Speaker 1: to make the framing of the question to Spanos because
Speaker 1: such a different response, a profane response to reporters and
Speaker 1: angry response to reporters, but something far more measured that
Speaker 1: was used on this piece. Did the reporter for the
Speaker 1: Athletic laid out clearly that, according to his reporting, that
Speaker 1: it was something that the league would be interested in doing,
Speaker 1: that the Charges would be listening to. Uh was that specifically?
Speaker 1: Did he utter that to Dean spound Us before getting
Speaker 1: his sound by, Because that, to me makes a difference.
Speaker 1: They are the only team renting and not owning their home,
Speaker 1: and they're in a city that doesn't necessarily want more
Speaker 1: need to teams, so they're always gonna be spoken about
Speaker 1: as a team that's gonna move. I mean, they've gone
Speaker 1: through this, they just went through this. That's the only
Speaker 1: thing that's I think if you're a Chargers fan that's
Speaker 1: actually come with them and in in still as rooting
Speaker 1: for the l A Chargers when you are San Diego
Speaker 1: Chargers and there are some of those fans they know
Speaker 1: they take a lot of pot shots, and there aren't
Speaker 1: there aren't a ton of them, but they're in Orange
Speaker 1: County and in some of the San Diego fans. It's
Speaker 1: he's got to come out aggressively against this because if
Speaker 1: you want to, you know, get rid of the fan
Speaker 1: sport that you do have stories like this, they're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. I mean, the reporting that I would love
Speaker 1: to have in depth is go to the highest people
Speaker 1: in the league and find out where their heads are
Speaker 1: at at this point with the Chargers actually moving to
Speaker 1: Henry Hodson Henry Henry, or maybe it's just a little
Speaker 1: bit lower than Henry, but yeah, just you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is not a problem that's going to go away.
Speaker 1: It's going to magnify as the optics change and suddenly
Speaker 1: they are in a massive stadium when they can't fill
Speaker 1: a small one. And this is purely opinion, it has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with anyone involved with this, but the
Speaker 1: NFL A team would work in London. I I having
Speaker 1: been there twice, having seen their support, having just looking
Speaker 1: at the data of how the people have packed that stadium,
Speaker 1: how the sport is growing over there, I think it's
Speaker 1: absolutely something logistically that they could make work. And I
Speaker 1: know there would be challenges and what players want to
Speaker 1: play there, and that's all been discussed. I believe that
Speaker 1: not only would it work, and they did touch on
Speaker 1: this in the article, that it is a potential gold
Speaker 1: golden opportunity, uh for for a charge a team like
Speaker 1: the Chargers to kind of re establish itself and become
Speaker 1: perhaps a business superpower of the NFL. If if if
Speaker 1: it worked, So I think it's gonna happen eventually, but
Speaker 1: whether it's gonna be the Chargers or whomever, I don't know.
Speaker 1: But it just seems like London is ready for a team,
Speaker 1: and also is the ready made stadium which we were
Speaker 1: just at that was built for the NFL. For the NFL,
Speaker 1: they have ann stadium in the NFL locker rooms separate
Speaker 1: from the soccer locker rooms that is locked and loaded
Speaker 1: right in the middle of London. There's no way to
Speaker 1: cleanly uproot a team and take it to another city.
Speaker 1: It's just it's the worst thing you can do as
Speaker 1: a sports franchise to the people that have made it
Speaker 1: possible for you to even leave. And the Jaguars are
Speaker 1: obviously always the team that people you know associate because
Speaker 1: because KHN has you know, investment, you know, has the
Speaker 1: soccer team and has been part of the stadium there.
Speaker 1: I I don't know, it's easy to say that a
Speaker 1: team and makes sense there, but I really don't think
Speaker 1: it could happen unless they lay the ground or in
Speaker 1: this CBA which is coming up, so it might come
Speaker 1: to a head. I feel like in the next year
Speaker 1: or two, if they're gonna move, they have to get
Speaker 1: buying from the players. It all sort of has to
Speaker 1: be organized, you know. When that c b as I
Speaker 1: would say, if you can't get Philip Rivers to move
Speaker 1: his eight children the hour and forty five minutes from
Speaker 1: San Diego to Los Angeles, I don't think you're gonna
Speaker 1: get him to move to the United Kingdom. And to
Speaker 1: be clear, I think the buying I don't know about
Speaker 1: the league and the owners and the players. That's unclear
Speaker 1: the buying, but that market they're ready to buy in.
Speaker 1: Can we say the same about Los Angeles with two teams?
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can, but it seems like
Speaker 1: London would be able to handle team and thrive with
Speaker 1: it well. And probably the biggest teas they've had in
Speaker 1: terms of a news story coming out suggesting someone is
Speaker 1: potentially in place, and the reaction from people we know
Speaker 1: over there was big. Well, London. The thing is with
Speaker 1: those fans, and I think the Jagguards have done a
Speaker 1: nice job. They can root for more than one team,
Speaker 1: like you can have like the Jaguar. They're kind of
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the UK from what I gathered,
Speaker 1: like their second team, like you like them, like if
Speaker 1: you don't have the same sort of tribal I grew
Speaker 1: up in New England, so I'm gonna root for the
Speaker 1: Patriots to begin with. Then I think you're willing to
Speaker 1: support different things, and I've noticed this year. I don't.
Speaker 1: I kind of like the trend of there's visiting fans
Speaker 1: in a lot more stadiums because of the secondary market
Speaker 1: is so different. There were a ton of Vikings fans
Speaker 1: at the Chief, so it's not just bad. It's not
Speaker 1: just stadiums without great fan bases. There are a ton
Speaker 1: of Vikings fans at the Chief. Eagles fans in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: There were a ton of Patriots fans at the Ravens game.
Speaker 1: There were a ton of Cowboys fans at the Giants.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that kind of we were there
Speaker 1: for for Rams Cowboys, and I thought that was a
Speaker 1: great atmosphere. It's kind of fun when they're you know
Speaker 1: that you have that soccer field where there's two fan
Speaker 1: bases in the same But that was I would argue
Speaker 1: that was almost like Cowboys fans in terms of noise.
Speaker 1: But I thought, but that's you think it's cool, and
Speaker 1: I think it's cool. But I don't think the Rams
Speaker 1: thought that was cool. At a playoff game. All right,
Speaker 1: let us move on. That's what's happening in the news,
Speaker 1: and of course we will continue to follow that story
Speaker 1: wherever it leads. If it leads nowhere, all right, let's
Speaker 1: get it. Ricky, you got upset with me because you
Speaker 1: did a really nice job UM sending some potential store
Speaker 1: UM segment ideas UM for today's show. You sent it yesterday.
Speaker 1: I was in the middle of my power rankings and
Speaker 1: I didn't give it a thought that it deserved. So
Speaker 1: I apologize for that, UM, And I know it's on
Speaker 1: your radar that we're doing a segment called what We've
Speaker 1: Loved about the twenty nineteen season so far. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty funny. So I just want to put it on
Speaker 1: record that I get it. But keep the ideas coming you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just for the listeners. I want you guys to
Speaker 1: know that I was like, Okay, let's look at what's trending.
Speaker 1: You know, Dan, you like to stay on top of
Speaker 1: what's going on. Frozen to what what you know? Storylines?
Speaker 1: Do we need to what's frozen two? Two? Okay? What
Speaker 1: about what about Lizzo is over party? It's a K
Speaker 1: pop feud with Lizzo, you know Blizzard wide receiver of
Speaker 1: the packers exactly what what you know? Players are we
Speaker 1: feuding with or we're not really saying like what we're with.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of m v P talk. What about
Speaker 1: the opposite of that? What about players we thought were
Speaker 1: going to be Yeah, I'll help you out with you know,
Speaker 1: um and I had another bumble idea that was very fun.
Speaker 1: It might be something you know to do because you
Speaker 1: normally do a segment shows. Right now, I want to
Speaker 1: make it very clear it doesn't matter what happens in
Speaker 1: the NFL over the next seven days. Our segment on
Speaker 1: next Tuesday show will be one of those ideas or
Speaker 1: a newer Ricky idea, a Ricky centric seg idea next
Speaker 1: Tuesday only on the Around the NFL podcast. Okay, but
Speaker 1: the best part about this whole thing is I like
Speaker 1: put all this time and spending, you know, writing up
Speaker 1: all these things in my email side. I know you're
Speaker 1: really busy with power rankings, so I thought i'd send
Speaker 1: you some news items to try to make your day easier.
Speaker 1: You did say thank you, and I sent you some
Speaker 1: some news and I sent you segments and then on
Speaker 1: the Rundown Today segment What we've loved about the twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen season. This is this is grinding you very funny,
Speaker 1: don't you think I told you? I'm sorry, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love it. I just I think you know it's new too.
Speaker 1: You've never done that before and the NFL season. You've
Speaker 1: never sent the ideas before, right, this was a first? Right? No, well,
Speaker 1: like in this way you've never done it. Like, maybe
Speaker 1: not the most welcome environment to send ideas, I would
Speaker 1: say out there. No, that's absolutely false. Mark, it's a
Speaker 1: great environment. Please send ideas. But if if it's going
Speaker 1: to be something that happens every week, will be more
Speaker 1: kind of on my mind. It was in my mind
Speaker 1: and then it exited my mind because I was busy.
Speaker 1: But that won't happen again if it happens for multiple weeks. No,
Speaker 1: I think it's my I just wanted to try to
Speaker 1: make your day okay, get it. And I'm really happy
Speaker 1: that you're super busy with all other other shows that
Speaker 1: now that's that's also I could see there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a knife being sure shadowy League figure in
Speaker 1: the building. How's your fantasy show? It's doing really well.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the plug da fun. Appreciate it. You do
Speaker 1: good work on that. I saw you did a remote
Speaker 1: from the huddle our commissary. Yeah, it was good, good stuff.
Speaker 1: What we've loved about the two thousand nineteen season so far,
Speaker 1: all right, so let's go around the horn and share
Speaker 1: what we've loved. Greg. We're gonna start with you. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I have to start with Lamar. But the
Speaker 1: reason I love what the Ravens are doing and Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson is just that it's counter to everything else in
Speaker 1: the league. That they are taking an approach sort of
Speaker 1: from the seventies or eighties or Hector like the twenties,
Speaker 1: and they're making it new with a with a player
Speaker 1: who has a skill set unlike anything we've ever seen.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the history of the NFL. There
Speaker 1: are no new plays, there are no like new offenses.
Speaker 1: It's all been done before. It's the same with art,
Speaker 1: like you don't start art from scratch, there's no such thing.
Speaker 1: You're building on what people have done. Standing on this,
Speaker 1: you're building on what people have done before and then
Speaker 1: you're you're changing it for the modern day. And that's
Speaker 1: what the Ravens have done, and they've it took some
Speaker 1: hot spa to do it, uh, and it's taken. The
Speaker 1: fact is they're they're executing it too. The the way
Speaker 1: that the rest of the league is gonna have to
Speaker 1: try to catch up in a league that's all we
Speaker 1: hear is pass first, past first, past first. It's spread
Speaker 1: them out. It's a pass first league. They are the
Speaker 1: best running team of all time right now. They're all
Speaker 1: in the They're they're sixteen games. Jackson would set the record,
Speaker 1: and their pace for this year would set the record,
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson would set the record like he's played
Speaker 1: sixteen games. So it's a perfect example a nine season
Speaker 1: why you didn't want to do the same. Like football,
Speaker 1: I love football, like it really does carry me through,
Speaker 1: Like when like this job, we all wear a card
Speaker 1: at it, and if you don't like, really enjoy what
Speaker 1: you're covering, then it's gonna get tough in those days.
Speaker 1: And seeing to teams like them, and then especially the
Speaker 1: forty niners who are just doing it in a totally
Speaker 1: different way than we've seen in a while, and it's
Speaker 1: working and kind of busting up all the maxims that
Speaker 1: everyone says. I love it. I give the Ravens this
Speaker 1: credit too, because if you're Greg Roman, i'd say the
Speaker 1: star rose and then it fell a little bit because
Speaker 1: the league went away from what he was doing with
Speaker 1: the Niners and you hired a guy who's whose CUE
Speaker 1: rating was not where it was in the past, and
Speaker 1: you let him do what he does. And it's it's
Speaker 1: not the Niners offense from the Kaepernick days entirely, but
Speaker 1: there are a lot of shared elements there and you
Speaker 1: nailed it. It's working like that's it's working with divided
Speaker 1: a blueprint to stop them. Remember that No, that was
Speaker 1: that feels like a million years ago. And we did
Speaker 1: a segment that should show up, uh somewhere on the
Speaker 1: internet in the in the next few days. Um Our
Speaker 1: Mid Season Awards and one of my my categories was
Speaker 1: you know bad teams stay bad award. Well, the Ravens
Speaker 1: are example how good teams stay good. They took Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: he was the fifth quarterback taken in the draft last year,
Speaker 1: and they just had a different vision than everybody everybody
Speaker 1: else and they knew how to They didn't try to
Speaker 1: force him to be something that he wasn't. They're just
Speaker 1: a well run team and I'm glad you brought up.
Speaker 1: Lamar is the first one great because if you didn't,
Speaker 1: I would have I And if you listen to the podcast,
Speaker 1: you know I hate the Patriots. I'm so sick of
Speaker 1: the Patriots. If I have to cover the Patriots of
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl again, it's just gonna ruin the whole
Speaker 1: week for me. And to have another young king rise
Speaker 1: up now because Patrick Mahomes he rose last year and
Speaker 1: you put all your eggs in his basket and he
Speaker 1: couldn't get the job done. It wasn't his fault. His
Speaker 1: defense let him down. Uh. And you were counting on
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes to do it again this year. We counted
Speaker 1: on the Steelers for years. They never could do it.
Speaker 1: And now you have Lamar. And I'm not saying he's
Speaker 1: gonna do the same thing in January against the Paths
Speaker 1: that he did on Sunday night, But now you have
Speaker 1: another guy that Bill Belichick has to figure out how
Speaker 1: to beat, and he might not be able to because
Speaker 1: these young dogs that are rising up, one of them
Speaker 1: are gonna get you eventually. Sean Watson another guy there.
Speaker 1: It's starting to grow now, these young teams on the
Speaker 1: rise with superstar quarterbacks. Is that what finally does the
Speaker 1: Pats in. We'll see, all right. I guess I go
Speaker 1: twice because I did go on a little bit there,
Speaker 1: but I got excited. I'm very excited about um this one.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm gonna save mine. Actually, because it
Speaker 1: goes in, it brings things down a little bit. So West,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend to you. Well, baron with me for
Speaker 1: a minute here. I want to talk about mama's You
Speaker 1: know my A lot of guys, you get your love
Speaker 1: of sports from your dad. I got mine from my mom,
Speaker 1: who we had passionate, intense debates back and forth about
Speaker 1: things like Oral Hirschaizer versus Dwight Gooden, Michael Jordan's versus
Speaker 1: Larry Bird, or Magic Johnson. And I learned that she
Speaker 1: was really Those debates were important life lessons about selflessness, generosity,
Speaker 1: and teamwork. And the point for me is nobody, none
Speaker 1: knows their son's strengths and foibles to the extent that
Speaker 1: a mom does. So when Minca Fitzpatrick's mom tells the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: you're using my son wrong, wrong, she knew she did.
Speaker 1: He was used on twenty two of plays as a
Speaker 1: deep safety in Miami he's used on as a deep
Speaker 1: safety in Pittsburgh, and he is and he's gonna be
Speaker 1: on my mid season All Pro team. He is that good.
Speaker 1: They they were allowing a one forty one passer rating
Speaker 1: on deep passes in Pittsburgh before he showed up. They
Speaker 1: are now allowing a ten point eight rating with a
Speaker 1: zero to three touchdown to interception ratio. And he had
Speaker 1: three takeaways in a six day span recently. And another
Speaker 1: thing he did when a when a sportswriter said, hey,
Speaker 1: you just had the longest return touchdown and Steeler's history,
Speaker 1: he corrected him and said, no, James Harrison did pet
Speaker 1: peeve post peas postseason stats count. Stop saying only regular
Speaker 1: season stats count. They're the most important games. Thank you,
Speaker 1: micka Fitzpatrick, Thank you Mama Fitzpatrick. And he knew that.
Speaker 1: A good job by him in that in that spot
Speaker 1: to have the Harrison recall and knowing the history of
Speaker 1: the game right after he of football, here's no doubt
Speaker 1: he's transformed the back end of that defense. And you
Speaker 1: see if every metric, all the numbers, it's remarkable how
Speaker 1: much has changed since Week three with Pittsburgh. Now he's
Speaker 1: not completely responsible for that. But he's played a huge role. No,
Speaker 1: but their defense has enabled them to stay in the
Speaker 1: race while playing the worst quarterback in the NFL. Oh
Speaker 1: you know, now he's the worst. There's no doubt about
Speaker 1: my god, they're playing the wrong guy. All right. Um,
Speaker 1: now I will go and uh because it's been sufficiently deflated.
Speaker 1: Um with that Mason Rudolph thing. I I love uh
Speaker 1: what Troy Aikman tweeted last night. Okay, power league has
Speaker 1: a lot to address this offseason as consumer confidence continues
Speaker 1: to wane. See what I did kind of twisted this
Speaker 1: a little bit. He love that tweet. Um working on
Speaker 1: multiple level because it's you love referring to our league's league.
Speaker 1: Oh he did the hourly That's right. I thought that part.
Speaker 1: You just started talking about that over the weekend, that
Speaker 1: that's the new National Football League everyone, instead of saying
Speaker 1: the NFL is like in the National Football League, The
Speaker 1: new thing is an our league in our league. You
Speaker 1: gotta make a football play on the football field. This
Speaker 1: is the National Football League. It's our league. I think
Speaker 1: if you want to dig into that a little bit,
Speaker 1: and this is not what my subject is, but that's
Speaker 1: a way to cast out the people like us. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I call it my employer, but that's that's not very different.
Speaker 1: You're right, it is setting a boundary around anyone that
Speaker 1: wasn't there on the field. And you probably shouldn't try
Speaker 1: to trump my comment if you weren't a former player.
Speaker 1: My analysis that I'm about to unfurl comes from a
Speaker 1: place of experience on the football field. So if you
Speaker 1: want to counter what you said what I say, just
Speaker 1: know that it is not your league. It is our league,
Speaker 1: and more league my league. Anyway, that's not the point.
Speaker 1: Our league has a lot to address this offseason as
Speaker 1: consumer confidence continues to wait. I kind of like Troy
Speaker 1: Agman's Twitter account. He comes with some fire. He's got
Speaker 1: a really good profile. Pick where the with Evan Silva.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that it was that recently. Yeah,
Speaker 1: last week, two weeks ago, it was about how you
Speaker 1: judge quarterbacks and what stats to use, and it was
Speaker 1: that the Patrick Mahomes thing, and he was less of
Speaker 1: a conversation and more of six straight tweets at Evan Silva.
Speaker 1: But he responded it was all respectful, we med yards
Speaker 1: per completion thing. Okay. He also made news because somebody
Speaker 1: put Patrick my home statistics and next to Troy Aikman's
Speaker 1: and he dwarfed them all. And then Aikman fireback, well,
Speaker 1: I got the I got, I'm gonna I'm gonna follow
Speaker 1: him my homes stats up against Ateman they played a
Speaker 1: totally different era, That's what he pointed out. And he's
Speaker 1: got the trophies. Anyway, Um, it happened again Monday night football.
Speaker 1: We had a game just overloaded with penalties and stoppages
Speaker 1: and a bad p I situation where it went to review.
Speaker 1: And I do think when the when the league got
Speaker 1: gets together, um for the meetings that happened after the season,
Speaker 1: that they do have to find a way to increate
Speaker 1: better the pace. And that's become an issue that's uh
Speaker 1: been a major fight in Major League Baseball as they
Speaker 1: try to shorten their games. These these NFL games are
Speaker 1: getting longer. And I think back to that play Greg,
Speaker 1: that sequence of the Chargers Titans near the goal line
Speaker 1: where everything was sucked out of it by incessant stop
Speaker 1: downs for whether it's a measurement or a buzz down
Speaker 1: from the booth to look at the play. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: more flags than ever I know. They've gotten the holding thing,
Speaker 1: which was inexplicable when they started pulling out the flag
Speaker 1: at a massive rate increase earlier this season with more
Speaker 1: holding calls. They just they just got to get out
Speaker 1: of the way a little bit. The officials and the
Speaker 1: past interference thing, which we've talked to death, but I
Speaker 1: will say this, I my initial thought was it's not
Speaker 1: really working, um how it was supposed to work, because
Speaker 1: they they I think they overturn or they stick with
Speaker 1: a call almost at the time. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, they're still getting some things right that
Speaker 1: were egregiously wrong. But in truth, it's affecting the game
Speaker 1: strategy wise. It was taking away time outs and also
Speaker 1: it's stopping the game outright. It's just shutting the game down.
Speaker 1: And I think the NFL has to find find a
Speaker 1: way a NFL game and their league. Greg, I love
Speaker 1: the product, but something just to clean it up a
Speaker 1: little bit because it feels it feels like it's been
Speaker 1: a little sloppy this year. That's right up my alley.
Speaker 1: What part of this do you love? I like, I
Speaker 1: would say this, like, don't don't fall into the trap
Speaker 1: that unfairly baseball has because of the way that baseball
Speaker 1: is naturally paced, don't slow the game down. They it's
Speaker 1: already been a leading they know it, but but it's
Speaker 1: distinctly changed this year and shifted. Ever On came to
Speaker 1: us and said two years ago, this is sports entertainment.
Speaker 1: We know it. We got a quick in the pace.
Speaker 1: We have to put a good entertainment product on the field.
Speaker 1: And then this past offseason that was completely abandoned. That
Speaker 1: was not a talking point whatsoever. Your battle is everyone
Speaker 1: out there watching has something better to do on their
Speaker 1: phone and watch a game that gets mired in a
Speaker 1: four minutes stoppage while people in black and white jerseys
Speaker 1: france around figuring out or we're just gonna back up
Speaker 1: our own potentially mistaken call. Although on some level I
Speaker 1: I always do find it funny when there's fifteen to
Speaker 1: forty people all tweeting at the same time how the
Speaker 1: game is unwatchable but they have to watch it, Like
Speaker 1: why are you watching? You have a million other things.
Speaker 1: Most most of them are media people, right, they have
Speaker 1: to watch it, but they don't know. Most of them
Speaker 1: are fans of other teams or their beat writers of
Speaker 1: other teams, and they can't You can't like give it
Speaker 1: up there. It's a beautiful game. They just get out
Speaker 1: of the way a little bit, find a way to
Speaker 1: clean it up. All right. That's that was a great segment. Guys,
Speaker 1: did you want to offer anything during that? For heaven's sakes,
Speaker 1: Dan just spoke for twenty five minutes. I did that
Speaker 1: on purpose because before when I when I went after
Speaker 1: West bark rolled his eyes for some reason. It is
Speaker 1: now well, I like anything. What did what did the ill?
Speaker 1: It had? It was something. There's things happening within the
Speaker 1: head space that have nothing to do with anyone else.
Speaker 1: Trust me, I like things that helped me learn about
Speaker 1: my own job here. We're still our job is to
Speaker 1: get better every year at what we do. And I
Speaker 1: have learned a huge lesson this year that we spend
Speaker 1: more time in the off season than we do in
Speaker 1: the regular season, and real when real games matter much
Speaker 1: more time when there's no games happening, where we cook
Speaker 1: up storylines, we cling to narratives, We get too lost
Speaker 1: in our own headspace and ideas about stuff to have
Speaker 1: not at any point been proven true, but will be
Speaker 1: proven untrue within the space between week one and week two.
Speaker 1: That I am vowing to never fall for the one
Speaker 1: a off season hype storyline, whether it be around a team,
Speaker 1: And it was the Browns this year, and I don't
Speaker 1: think that I fell for it as as much as
Speaker 1: some day I was guarded against, but only I think
Speaker 1: because I had a personal, painful stake in it. I
Speaker 1: think had it been another team, I would had had
Speaker 1: someone else gone and done everything that Cleveland done, I
Speaker 1: think I would have fallen for it. And my guard
Speaker 1: is up to not listen to this junk. I know
Speaker 1: that we have to fill air waves in space all
Speaker 1: these other months, but there's a way to do it
Speaker 1: without just glomming onto the group think scenario where huge
Speaker 1: chunks of the media had Cleveland in the a f
Speaker 1: C title game when it made no sense when you
Speaker 1: looked at all the changes. This is my favorite annual
Speaker 1: mid season tradition. Mark vowing to never pay attention to
Speaker 1: offseason story Well, I will pay attention, but I'm not
Speaker 1: going to glom onto something that feels especially group thinking
Speaker 1: and a little too from You're right there, like none
Speaker 1: of us have almost any predictive value. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that's a that's a bad thing, Like it's okay
Speaker 1: that it's it's it's all totally unpredictable. It's also the
Speaker 1: NFL has proven over and over again that if you
Speaker 1: say something, just wait three weeks and you'll be right
Speaker 1: or you're right either way, say something you know. Matt
Speaker 1: Floor said it this week. It's been proven over and
Speaker 1: over again. You cannot get comfortable in the NFL. Once
Speaker 1: you get comfortable, you're gonna lose, because, I mean, the
Speaker 1: flip is flip side is like all the other hot
Speaker 1: takes that aren't group think, they're wrong just as much
Speaker 1: as the group think, which is something that is and
Speaker 1: what happened we don't need. Why do we need any
Speaker 1: of these hot takes? I mean we do because otherwise
Speaker 1: you're gonna high school baseball for six months. But now
Speaker 1: you can talk about this sport what without going mark,
Speaker 1: That's that's what you loved about the twenty nineteen I
Speaker 1: love what I said was I love it taught me
Speaker 1: about doing my job differently. I do love that it's
Speaker 1: had personal effect on me. I can I there's plenty
Speaker 1: of our things I love. I actually had Greg Roman
Speaker 1: is one. Don't love the Ravens, but I do love
Speaker 1: a team that has the gutsiness to Zig when everyone
Speaker 1: else is. I'll say this, you know what. Lots of
Speaker 1: good stuff. Thursday Night Football Slate, which has been rather
Speaker 1: messy in years past, and it's been an outpost for
Speaker 1: junkie games and matchups. You have to get out there
Speaker 1: early in the year or late in the year. The
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football Slate, I think has been better than
Speaker 1: it's been since I've worked here. It's had five or
Speaker 1: six classic games and props where it's due versus trying
Speaker 1: to lift up Thursday Night Football when it doesn't hit
Speaker 1: the mark which has been other years. I've got a
Speaker 1: quick love, Okay. Top of the m v P race
Speaker 1: features Russell Wilson, DeShawn Watson, Lamar Jackson, Christian McCaffrey. That's
Speaker 1: three black quarterbacks in a white running back. WHOA. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's where you're going, but I love it,
Speaker 1: and I don't think five or ten years ago you
Speaker 1: would have had that. Look, the NFL is not perfect.
Speaker 1: We've seen with the hiring of head coaches in general
Speaker 1: managers that there's a lot of work to do. But
Speaker 1: the opportunity is there now for some people that it
Speaker 1: wasn't there for years ago. Good call us, well, said,
Speaker 1: all right, speaking of Thursday night football, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: we got a good one. The Chargers who just shocked
Speaker 1: everybody by taking it to the Packers last week, UM
Speaker 1: at the Big Dignity. Now they travel to the black
Speaker 1: Hole to face the Raiders, who are really just a
Speaker 1: fun team, a fun team to watch this year. UM.
Speaker 1: And they are in the midst of um a homestand
Speaker 1: essentially after that seventy four days stretch away from the
Speaker 1: Colosseum in Oakland, and they get a Chargers team. That's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to figure out which version shows up,
Speaker 1: But I, Greg, I feel like I know what version
Speaker 1: of the Raiders will show up, a competitive version. This
Speaker 1: will be interesting game to watch. It should be a
Speaker 1: close game, I think. I agree. I think the rest
Speaker 1: of is there for a high scoring, entertaining game because
Speaker 1: the Raiders play very consistently. They have one of the
Speaker 1: worst defenses in the league. They don't have much of
Speaker 1: a pass rush, and they try to make up for
Speaker 1: that with a very efficient offense that keeps the ball
Speaker 1: and moves the ball and has Josh Jacobs and Derek
Speaker 1: Carr and Darren Waller playing great. Chargers made some adjustments
Speaker 1: with their offensive line play that last week that appeared
Speaker 1: to really make a big difference. They protected Rivers, I
Speaker 1: would say, very well in that game against the Packers,
Speaker 1: and it just makes me think Rivers, who's kind of
Speaker 1: owned the Raiders, especially in Oakland. Uh, it's gonna keep
Speaker 1: it rolling. It only took one game and I'm back
Speaker 1: in on the Chargers. You know why not? Welly, I
Speaker 1: like both teams, so I I want both of these
Speaker 1: teams to make a run that the Raiders wouldn't be
Speaker 1: dead at four and five. But whoever wins this game
Speaker 1: will get a nice little boost to me. What's interesting
Speaker 1: is that John Gruon has done such a good job
Speaker 1: and Derek Carto of getting rid of the ball, and
Speaker 1: then that offensive line pass rushers just not been as
Speaker 1: much of a fact or against the Raiders as they
Speaker 1: have against the other teams. And we saw what Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa and Melvin Ingram did to the Packers last week.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they'll be able to do that to Oakland.
Speaker 1: This has the feel of the I mean, we're all
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, we all know about him, we all see
Speaker 1: how exciting and specially has been. But for the average fan,
Speaker 1: that's not really monitoring the Raiders or hasn't watched them
Speaker 1: this year. This has the feel of that Thursday night
Speaker 1: game where suddenly Josh Jacobs because becomes the player everyone
Speaker 1: knows about and we hear about him because this is
Speaker 1: Rookie of the year, not just candidate, but probably leading
Speaker 1: candidate right now, right in which and the Chargers have
Speaker 1: been very vulnerable to the run. They've been had a
Speaker 1: lot of injuries at defensive tackle. They still do which
Speaker 1: Chargers defense shows up because Bosa and Ingram were feast
Speaker 1: in last week on third down. They gave Rogers no
Speaker 1: chance both. I think Joey Bosa would maybe be my
Speaker 1: pick for defensive player of the Year right now if
Speaker 1: I had to make one. Uh, And Ingram's playing great,
Speaker 1: Desmond King's playing great. Like that defensive performance kind of
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, and you hear these little whispers
Speaker 1: from Rogers like that. You know, they got into l
Speaker 1: a early, and maybe some players had a little too
Speaker 1: much fun. They were a little dead dead in that game.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what players Rogers that
Speaker 1: he hinted they flew on a day early to adjust
Speaker 1: to the climate and the time change. And he kind
Speaker 1: of left it open ended that maybe some guys didn't
Speaker 1: make the right decisions night. A lot of teams do.
Speaker 1: If you live in l A, the downtown l A Live,
Speaker 1: which is like a four block by four blocks section,
Speaker 1: they put them in one of those hotels. Not much
Speaker 1: happening at night, and they're not allowed to leave the
Speaker 1: four block by four block quadrants for that reason, because
Speaker 1: where would you want to go out on a Saturday
Speaker 1: night if you're in a visiting visiting player l A.
Speaker 1: Let him do it. Oh show um. And my one
Speaker 1: thought on this game, gentleman, is that and talked about
Speaker 1: this early in the season how the Raiders in their
Speaker 1: last season in Oakland, they're gonna be a tough team
Speaker 1: to beat there and that's been the case, and this
Speaker 1: could be their last primetime game, and they are packing
Speaker 1: that stadium and acting like the team's going nowhere. That
Speaker 1: place is gonna be a madhouse on Thursday night. People
Speaker 1: are gonna be that's gonna be a party. And uh,
Speaker 1: I know the Chargers are used to playing in hostile
Speaker 1: environments because it happens when they're at the Big Dignity too,
Speaker 1: but like, this is gonna be something that I know
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers can handle, but I think it could give
Speaker 1: the Charger trouble. And that's what I do like the
Speaker 1: Raiders in this game. I think the Raiders are an
Speaker 1: interesting team to watch, and they get the Bangals at
Speaker 1: home and then a trip to face the wretched Jets.
Speaker 1: They are set up to be playing relevant football in December.
Speaker 1: All right, any final thoughts, Joan. He summed it up well, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just ended right there. Get the plugs in. I got
Speaker 1: we gotta do these plugs. Greg. Check out that debrief
Speaker 1: because Gregg wrote at length about what he loves about
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen season. I didn't read it purposely because
Speaker 1: I didn't want it to infect my own thought process
Speaker 1: for the SEGA, But now it's time. I think it
Speaker 1: was your best intro of the year. I'm a feeling
Speaker 1: you to not mentioned Troy Aikman and yours. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like, I think they've just started following him to
Speaker 1: Thursday Night. Uh, we've been talking about the Thursday night telecasts.
Speaker 1: That has been great this year. I've enjoyed it. They
Speaker 1: do a nice shop mark on my radar. The Weekly
Speaker 1: Sessler Banker. You wrote about the parallels between Baker and Meanshew.
Speaker 1: Well that Gardner Minshew plays the mythological age old role
Speaker 1: of doppelganger that essentially operated as a life suck for
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield to the point where they look a lot alike.
Speaker 1: We get that, but they operated as sort of the
Speaker 1: fun thing last year for Baker Mayfield in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and Minshew stole all that away to the point where
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is at the press podium at the end
Speaker 1: of Sunday's game looking pale, having changed the facial hair
Speaker 1: on his face two different times in the course of
Speaker 1: four hours pre during, and post game. A lot going
Speaker 1: on there, and dig into it now that they put
Speaker 1: folds back in. I think the Jaguars read my investigative
Speaker 1: piece and panicked. Baker looked a different kind of dangerous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's lost that dangerous zeal. It's the one like with
Speaker 1: the parents are worried and uh check out the power
Speaker 1: rankings which are up the old Zeuser and West. What's
Speaker 1: coming up with your your upcoming breakdown of top ten? Well,
Speaker 1: I have to speak with my editor, but I believe
Speaker 1: this is the mid season All Pro week. Oh it is.
Speaker 1: I would you know what I would read and that's
Speaker 1: a great Uh, that's a great topic. I would read
Speaker 1: just the emails back and forth between you and Ali Bampari,
Speaker 1: I usually speak in person. I would love well, maybe
Speaker 1: some type of dictation. That's a segment for next Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I would read. I think it might be a less
Speaker 1: contentious thing. You believe it to be, all right. There
Speaker 1: may be some passive aggressiveness, but I don't think it's
Speaker 1: contentious alright anyway. So check that out. It Lands Where
Speaker 1: the Lands Dad got it? And Erica get ready your
Speaker 1: Spotlight next with seven Days can't Wait, Dan, I had
Speaker 1: the signing off for a Quiet Star and the mail
Speaker 1: Man The Old Boss I Ricky Hollywood behind the Glass
Speaker 1: Bill Thursday, m