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Speaker 1: Piece of the plane in Charlamagne the God here and

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Speaker 1: as we come closer the closing out this year, I

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Speaker 1: the Black Effect podcast network. There have been so many

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Speaker 1: great moments over the past year. Take a listen to

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Speaker 1: some of those captivating moments in this special best of episode.

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Speaker 2: That's the only reason why Ward chosen all that is

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Speaker 2: dope because you go to parties and you get to

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Speaker 2: see people in this love. But we never see these

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Speaker 2: people unless we see him at a concert or something.

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Speaker 3: She was like, Yo, man, I'm a fat yo fan bro.

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Speaker 3: I'm like Kelly, like serious, this guy was gone at.

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Speaker 2: The top and he was like, Yo, man, yo, rest

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Speaker 2: of peace, Big pun I grew up with the Puerto Ricans,

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Speaker 2: which show in Chicago. He was like, Yo, man, I

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Speaker 2: want to do a song with you. Now at this point,

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Speaker 2: I'm still.

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Speaker 4: Really street, like really really street like.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know no better, right, So I grab all

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Speaker 2: Kelly by the chart said Yo, I'm not the guy

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Speaker 2: you say you want to do it somewhere and then

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Speaker 2: you can just do.

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Speaker 3: It zero.

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Speaker 2: No yo yo nah nah, Thank god I said it

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Speaker 2: myself because I said, yo, listen, yo Tank, I'm that

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Speaker 2: ghetto that's still street now that Joe be like, oh wow,

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Speaker 2: that'd be a you know, an honor or what you know.

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Speaker 3: Then I was like, yo, my man, no, be like,

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Speaker 3: I ain't the one. I ain't the guy you want

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Speaker 2: She's like, nah, I'm gonna be in Orlando. Come down there.

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Speaker 2: We do a song, this this that. Magically DJ bron

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Speaker 2: G hits me up. I never even knew he made beats.

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Speaker 2: He was like, yo, Joe, man, I made a beat

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Speaker 2: for you. So I knew all these producers that made hits,

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Speaker 2: but every time I asked him for beasts, say track

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Speaker 2: Masters or whatever, they had all the hits, but they

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Speaker 2: would go to Tank, it writes hits, and I'd be like, Yo, Tank,

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Speaker 2: I want to joint. I was so street. Tank would

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Speaker 2: think of his one hardcourt jointing be like, Yo, Joe,

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Speaker 2: I got one for you. No, I want to fucking hit.

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Speaker 2: I want the barge, not sweat. You don't understand what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, so I'm just saying.

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Speaker 3: I try.

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Speaker 2: I tell you, I wouldn't know, yo, swearch you you know,

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Speaker 2: I held the bars one of my favorite ever. But

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Speaker 2: so he go like this, so ron g we go

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Speaker 2: by him. It gives us the beat. We play the ship.

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Speaker 2: We start running away on the fucking truck because it's

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Speaker 2: rap to or m O P or you know, so

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Speaker 2: I'm not because that's what I was coming out the gate.

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Speaker 2: So we dancing. So I do my verses. We drive

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Speaker 2: down to Orlando. Right all Kelly's laying on the couch.

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Speaker 2: I walk up in there. Funny ship is the track

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Speaker 2: Masters was there too. They was doing his music and

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Speaker 2: so when I walked in, I'm like, Yo.

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Speaker 3: What's up? Calls Yo up Yo this.

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Speaker 2: He was just sitting on the couch and he said,

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Speaker 2: he said, Yo, you got the song? I said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like Yo's cows. You know what I'm saying. This that

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Speaker 2: Actually, I never heard him talk with bass. He always

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Speaker 2: He does like the inchro like I don't know what

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Speaker 3: But he's singing the ship right.

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Speaker 2: He was like, yo, this ship is hah yo, you

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Speaker 2: and he was like, and the track Masster is looking

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Speaker 2: like that. I was like, y'all've been telling you to

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Speaker 3: Goes, yeah, yeah, you know him, I got a two fake.

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Speaker 2: I drove twenty hours at the time. I was kidding you,

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Speaker 2: So I drove down there too, so I'm like, yokels.

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Speaker 3: He was like, I got a two fake.

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Speaker 2: This this that, so out of nowhere, he disappears and

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Speaker 2: So it's like ten minutes, twenty thirty forty minutes. Like

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm really impulsive. I'm like, really really street.

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Speaker 2: At this point, I don't know how to explained, so

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Speaker 2: I said, man, fuck that, man, I go to the door.

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Speaker 3: I opened the door. I opened the door. He dad

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Speaker 2: Giving him nover can on a chair and in the

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Speaker 5: I found yo. Yeah, yeah, yes, yo tech.

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Speaker 3: I felt so bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there like this, I'm like, oh ship, he

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Speaker 3: I go because I noticed one record gonna change my life.

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Speaker 2: This is a hit hit you know you got to

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Speaker 2: hit with a Kelly at that time, It's just.

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Speaker 3: So long story short.

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Speaker 2: The man don't call me for like two days, and

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Speaker 2: the truck ready and out of no where, the phone ring.

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Speaker 2: He's like, yo, what's up? Scales? Scales said, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Kels? You're too good? Everything good?

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Speaker 2: He's like, hold up and he pressed playing you hear

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Speaker 6: And so that ship and that's your first R and

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Speaker 6: So this is this is a record that is very

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Speaker 3: That's what's friends are for? Wo.

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Speaker 6: Yes, two of the records that I learned how to

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Speaker 5: Wow?

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Speaker 8: Wow yes, And that's what friends are for?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, two great songs.

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Speaker 6: How does it feel to have records like that? Like,

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Speaker 6: like I like, I'm ting this is like the world

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Speaker 6: is singing in harmony, in unison, maybe not the right note,

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Speaker 6: it might not be singing.

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Speaker 5: And you're gonna tell, how.

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Speaker 8: Does it feel to have that?

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Speaker 9: You know, when songs like that come along, they far

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Speaker 9: and few between. They really are. Hear those songs or

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Speaker 9: those kind of songs every day, and that's the reason

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Speaker 9: you hear everybody singing, because it's not only words, it's meaning,

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Speaker 9: it's feeling. It has you know. The song was written

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Speaker 9: for a film Night Shift, and Rod Stewart sang thing

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Speaker 9: but recorded it and I found it by watching or

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Speaker 9: like that, and I watched the crawls to see who

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Speaker 9: record it with Bert and Carol. I just left the

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Speaker 9: And the next day when I went back, I said,

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Speaker 9: you know, I heard a song called that's the principle

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Speaker 9: all Why didn't you play that one for me? And Carol?

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Speaker 9: Who is I mean, she's the funniest woman in the world,

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Speaker 9: she said, real hooter. So now four people know that song,

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Speaker 9: I said four.

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Speaker 3: He said, now four people.

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Speaker 9: Know it now, Rod Stewart, Bert Backrack, Carol Bear Stay

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Speaker 9: your Backrack, and zl Walwick now knows that song. I said, well,

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Speaker 9: good not to be heard. And I said, and I

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Speaker 9: this with me, because that's what it's about, friendship. And

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Speaker 9: as it turned out, Elizabeth Taylor was at the session

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Speaker 9: being a friend of Backcracking.

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Speaker 8: Carol.

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Speaker 9: Yes, you're there, wow, And she pulled me to the side. Dean,

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Speaker 9: can I help you? Yeah, here, you can go. You know,

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Speaker 9: I'm starting this foundation. I said, yeah, I heard, and

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Speaker 9: it's something you need to do. And she said, well,

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Speaker 9: I know how hard you're working within your community to

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Speaker 9: She would you consider giving me that song? And I

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Speaker 9: looked at it like she had lost our mind. I said,

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Speaker 9: going on. And I said, well, let's ask those other

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Speaker 9: three people in there, and Stevie, Gladyson Elton all agreed.

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Speaker 9: You know if because we all felt the sting, you know,

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Speaker 9: time is going to make a difference, yare okay, but

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Speaker 9: you got to cross the board. Writers, publishers, videographers, tapes, studio, everything,

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Speaker 9: every dime made recording. Still to this very day goes

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Speaker 9: sad far Wow. Five Davis called me said, did I

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Speaker 9: hear right? Aid? Wait? Wait wait? Did you hear you

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Speaker 9: gave everything? Yeah? Did you realize the pace record you're

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Speaker 9: going to have in your lifetime? And hmm, yo, that

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Speaker 9: listens the purpose of giving it away and get and

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Speaker 9: I have reaped over and over and over and over. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: ain't about the dollar, it's that feeling. And I feel

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Speaker 9: very good about it, I really do. And I feel

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Speaker 9: that in the long run, GeV Glas and Nelson feels

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Speaker 9: exactly the same way you've done something, then nobody else has.

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Speaker 8: Done something bigger than yourself.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely congratulates absolutely, and thank you for the song.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I'm glad I heard it on the way, heard

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Speaker 9: me raised up in time.

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Speaker 10: That's that's a that's a great phone calls to let

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Speaker 10: me Steve Friends, Steve Wondering, Gladys Knight, l j Elton,

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Speaker 10: John and Steve.

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Speaker 3: While you at it. You got yourr you got.

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Speaker 10: Your hard money, bring that harmony.

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Speaker 7: Don't you show up here without it any long?

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Speaker 9: He get that one to me, Yeah, he sure did. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: after the session he hands you to me here, what Yeah,

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Speaker 9: sure did. That's my baby.

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Speaker 11: That's my baby, Steven, since she's nine years old.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's my child.

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Speaker 10: I want you to take to the camera, the front

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Speaker 7: Come on, No, I got a pet pee.

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Speaker 6: If I hear one more nigga mentioned a three sixty

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Speaker 3: They don't even know that means.

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Speaker 7: You don't even know what it means.

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Speaker 3: You just heard a nap about it. You you don't

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Speaker 6: You don't hate that ship, bro, They don't even know

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Speaker 5: Listen, three sixty the master's.

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Speaker 3: Do you even know how to license your master masters?

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Speaker 5: They don't know.

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Speaker 6: Talking to talk because they heard somebody said in an

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Speaker 5: Them at all.

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Speaker 4: If we gonna really have a real conversation.

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Speaker 8: Like, bro, there's a means to an end.

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Speaker 6: When you trying to get somewhere and you're trying to

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Speaker 6: change your life and there are people in front of

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Speaker 8: If it's worth it or not.

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Speaker 6: I've never judged the next person's deal because we all here,

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Speaker 6: we all be into music. But oh, you know they

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Speaker 6: got five million? Okay, well what are the terms? Do

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Speaker 6: away for five minutes? Did I just jump in a

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna sign for thirty five albums. Nigga like, then

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Speaker 10: Hey, my first deal could have been that. I was

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Speaker 10: this is good. He said, yeah, that's good. That's cool.

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Speaker 12: I'm telling you that's just wasn't even optional. My parents

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Speaker 5: Had nothing resembling a lawyer.

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Speaker 3: And we're not saying.

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Speaker 10: We're, you know, good lord, the good lord lawyer.

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Speaker 3: Don't get a lawyer. Get a lawyer.

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Speaker 10: We have good lawyers, don't. Yeah, but I'm just sharing that.

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Speaker 10: I'm just sharing that. We share that.

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Speaker 3: Like.

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Speaker 5: I just felt like I gotta get to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, forward progress.

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Speaker 10: I gotta get to it. And and if if this

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Speaker 10: is in it, I'll whatever is in it that needs

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Speaker 10: to be cleaned up, I'll get to that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll figure out.

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Speaker 5: But right now I need to get cracking. I need

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: I got make enough money to get somebody else to

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Speaker 5: Come on, come on now, talk to somebody thought me

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Speaker 5: out of this thing.

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Speaker 12: Somebody give me out the facts and it worked out.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking at this list here, brow, it's it's too many.

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Speaker 6: You've been going crazy. You have been going crazy.

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Speaker 5: Bro, Okay, you have.

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Speaker 10: You have a few songs listed here, but I kind

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Speaker 10: of want to go in order. What's your first hit record.

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Speaker 12: The first song I ever heard in the car on

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Speaker 12: the radio was one by K Camp and Fetty Walk.

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Speaker 12: That's the first one I cracked for you. That's like

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Speaker 12: the first year I signed to QC.

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Speaker 3: And that, and they're not even through QC, neither K

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Speaker 12: I think he pulled up to work with Cebo and

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Speaker 12: I was just like, let me see some beats.

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Speaker 3: He got his number and send them to his phone.

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Speaker 5: Still hustling, just hustle. I love that.

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Speaker 3: I just to be chilling, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I ain't a lot of.

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Speaker 5: You look like you be chilling, But nigga, you be plotting.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you okay, back to the money talk though.

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Speaker 6: So now this is your first, you know, one of

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Speaker 6: your first runers that crack off. At this point, what

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Speaker 6: are you charging anybody outside of QC because you're signing

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Speaker 6: QC and you got your deal with them, but like,

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Speaker 6: what is your like was you doing the three hundred

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Speaker 6: for the beat? Was you doing the five hundred? Did

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Speaker 6: you jump fifteen off the off the porch?

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Speaker 12: Like hell no, I was doing one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 12: dollars leases And then three hundred dollars.

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Speaker 7: Exclusive less m nigga.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the first time you heard about that?

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Speaker 3: That shit blew my mind. Yes, it blew my mind.

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Speaker 3: I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait wait.

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Speaker 8: So they could sell it a couple of times to

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Speaker 8: a couple of different artis.

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Speaker 3: But if they want the exclusive one, yes, a little more.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's how I got to quit nigga.

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Speaker 10: Listen ship they dove deeper into to music business. Then

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Speaker 10: we've ever thought to go early early early. You're leasing

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Speaker 10: on multiple artists. It's contracted, but if you want the exclusive, it's.

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Speaker 3: Did any of those ever catch heat like the ones

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Speaker 12: No, No, random hood niggas I would come across or

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Speaker 12: like somebody would be like, my boy make beats and

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Speaker 12: like or like niggas at Georgia State. I used to

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Speaker 12: still like pull up to Georgia State and hoop and shit,

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Speaker 12: they're still trying to rap and shit. I'll be like, shit,

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Speaker 12: I got some beats for you.

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Speaker 10: But they were smart too. With the economics. If I

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Speaker 10: can move one hundred of these one fifties. Yeah, fifteen thousand, thanks.

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Speaker 13: But the thing that I felt that I lacked was

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Speaker 3: You know, it was B two K bow. It was

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Speaker 13: Would see their shows, you would see the glitz and

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Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying. So a lot of them,

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Speaker 13: was really the screen tour like you go, it's no

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Speaker 13: At that time was like forget all the festivals and

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Speaker 3: Shut out to Michael Martin.

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Speaker 6: I saw him during the Great I mean, got never

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Speaker 6: met him before, and I just told him, I'm like, listen, man,

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Speaker 6: what you did just what I mean, obviously what you've

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Speaker 3: I don't know anyone that's done that. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 13: I don't think it can be done right now, it's

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Speaker 13: I think that sounds I can't even recreate.

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Speaker 4: Like I was just happy to be a part of it,

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Speaker 8: That's a legendary to recreate with these phones.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: I'm only going to see this type of ship here.

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Speaker 10: It was still that, but we hadn't gotten to the

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Speaker 10: all day. That's them Scream Tour. It was really screams. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: And I was nervous because that's like, you know, we

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Speaker 4: So, but back then, everybody's in there, sitting there waiting.

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Speaker 13: So whoever the first artist is, they either standing up

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Speaker 6: Did you, like, speaking of booing, did you ever experience

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Speaker 6: a fucked up.

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Speaker 8: Show early on? Like early on?

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Speaker 13: No, no, no, I'm gonna be real, like I've never

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Speaker 13: want to jinx myself, but I've never got like.

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Speaker 8: A he's not your nigga, but.

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Speaker 4: I've never I never got boot on a.

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Speaker 3: Thousand hit records.

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Speaker 8: But you're not getting don't worry about that.

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Speaker 3: Almost I said, you almost got boo. It started off

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Speaker 3: with this money. That's what fun His playlist was.

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Speaker 8: The song wasn't working yeah radio so and he still

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which we're working.

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Speaker 10: It was it was spent seven hundred thousand. I started

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Speaker 7: And oh.

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Speaker 11: God, I still got two minutes and it's ada tape.

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Speaker 11: So that that you got, you just gotta live that

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Speaker 11: motherfucking out you started. That's when you start thinking the most.

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Speaker 5: So that's when I started sweating. That's when you get

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 13: Now, I sucked up myself on stage, like did the

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Speaker 13: back flip slipped, But I play it off or like

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Speaker 4: Then stepped off the stage before and fell in the crowd.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, they still feel bad for because you're just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they still screamed.

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Speaker 6: I say, okay, oh my god, Okay, so off the

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Speaker 6: first off the first album, you start to you start

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Speaker 6: to see what this thing is like. You start to see,

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Speaker 6: gonna adjust.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever have like the can.

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Speaker 6: I do it again? Because you know people talk about

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Speaker 6: the sophomore Ye sophomore jing.

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Speaker 13: I had that in my in the back of my

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Speaker 13: head probably every day, you know what I'm saying. So like,

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Speaker 13: for me, it was because the first album was like

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Speaker 13: a learning experience.

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Speaker 4: I wrote with writers.

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Speaker 13: I didn't really write, you know, it was really how

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Speaker 13: they kind of shaped what I what my ideas would be.

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Speaker 13: The second album was like, okay, cool, well you've been

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Speaker 13: You've been right the song selections, you're picking the choices,

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Speaker 13: you know what you're doing. So but I feel like

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Speaker 13: it's like the challenge thing again. I was like, you

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Speaker 13: know what, I'm gonna try to prove them wrong.

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Speaker 3: I already fought for that.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, like I said, I proved myself wrong with the

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Speaker 13: first album, so it's like, now now I'm gonna prove

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Speaker 13: them wrong. I could do this shit, So I was.

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Speaker 13: I had that sophomore jinx in the back of my head.

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