WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Covino & Rich 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.600 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.200 Sports Radio day. 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:09.480 Try not to flop in the studio. 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:14.000 I hope you're your glorious Monday morning, your Monday that 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:16.200 feels like a Sunday. I hope you're having a nice 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.480 extended weekend, hopefully a nice cookout. Later on, we're gonna 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.160 give you the rules to your Memorial Day barbecue. 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:23.400 The dudes and don'ts today. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:28.680 Can I start by giving everyone one sure not to 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:33.000 be all possessive, oh boy, but never touch another man's 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.920 grill without asking, Like, if you're at. 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.760 Someone's bar grill, no grill, oh girl, Yeah, I don't 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:40.440 want your finger. I don't want your fingers in my mouth. 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:44.040 Bro. I don't know, Uh, I don't know what is 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.559 more offensive someone touching your girl or your grill or 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:48.920 your grill or your grill. But honestly, if you're at 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.559 a barbecue or cookout and you dip away and you 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:52.559 come back and you see. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.000 Someone else with dispatchela of the four. 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.200 Like if someone's flipping your steaks or burgers, what are 0:00:58.200 --> 0:00:58.480 you doing? 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.680 I've always said, playing with my grills, playing with my emotions. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:03.480 So yeah, we'll go over that. 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.880 We got Big Poppy three via Baseball Trivia giving away prizes, 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.080 in fact the new prize announcement. But we're Covino and 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.600 Rich live from the Fox Sports Radio studio in for 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.080 Dan Patrick Memorial Day, saluting the fallen troops of course 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.480 Memorial Day, and also want to thank all new listeners 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.000 that are hanging out with us. Maybe some of the 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.120 Dan Patrick people come check us out Monday through Friday 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.080 five to seven on the East two to four out 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:31.199 here on the West side. Guys like Sean Phills. Sean 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.199 Phills found us, joined our listener page. There's a bunch 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:40.080 of listener pages, friend fan pages on Facebook, search to Carls, 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:41.600 Covino and Rich listeners. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.400 Shout out to the Carls and we welcome everybody. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.240 The most inclusive show on radio continues and you can 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.960 watch our show. Watch what you hear right now at 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.680 YouTube dot com, slash at Covino and Rich FSR at 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:57.320 Covino and Rich FSR on YouTube and if you miss anything, 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:58.400 catch the shows there. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:00.560 We even have a bonus party. Can catch us a lot. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.520 But hey, I want to take this time to say 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.280 good day, good morning, and shout out to all the 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:10.760 affiliates let's go shout out to Ron Diggity Roy Priest Jay. Uh, 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.920 let's see sorry, did you say Ron Diggity Blind Guy creations? 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:14.480 Yo? 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:15.320 Do's Ron Diggity? 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:19.240 No super hot Fire because I hope you had a 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.720 super hot fire sort of weekend, a Golden Nights sort 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:24.679 of weekend. They're up three to zero. You know who's 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.600 super hot fire is? You had the big win over ray. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.400 J this weekend. I thought Rejo was dying. Now he 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:30.840 was fighting. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.320 No, no, yeah, now he got that. RAYJ got knocked 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.639 out this weekend. It wish yes, super hot fire. Shout 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.840 out to Mafioso fifty one to fifty. Everyone's shouting us out, 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:40.480 saying what's up. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:45.160 A lot of into thread chat going on right now, 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:46.600 and you know what people are saying. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:47.560 I wanted to point this out. 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.519 There's really no enforcement on flopping. I know that was 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:51.960 a big conversation first hour. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.720 Oh no, no, no, they can call it technical, but I'm 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:55.520 saying they don't. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:56.079 They don't. 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.520 But with all these compilations of SGA flopping and that 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.280 seems to be one of the trends over the weekend, 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.760 put together a fun compilation to music of SGA flopping 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:09.000 yet you're not seeing that. You're not seeing the fouls 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.919 called because you're the rich Davis I met in the 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.840 early two thousands loved floppers. Now all of a sudden, 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:15.400 you don't like them. 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:19.600 I like fermies, you like floppers. I don't know. Bro 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:21.880 back in the day, he used to say, you loved flosh. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.440 Tell me about some woman you sounds no, no, no, 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.160 Now you're all like too good for that. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.640 Okay, but yeah, SGA is sort of ruining the whole thing. 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.799 All right, let me shift gears to the Eastern Conference 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.720 or a second. I have a hypothetical for you guys. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.560 We are going to talk NFL this hour as well. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.600 I know, is it a dumb hypothetical or just a 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:40.480 rich hypothetical? 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.400 I mean, as Covino said, is there a different So 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.880 let me let me give you this hypothetical about the 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.200 Eastern Conference, and then we are going to talk some 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.480 NFL because we have the schedule releases like a week 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.880 ago before you know, we're going to be totally in 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.640 NFL mode and that dominates our life. So let's enjoy 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.920 baseball and basketball before NFL takes over our lives again. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:05.480 Eastern Conference nicks likely wrap it up tonight and if not, 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.800 they go back to New York and do it at home. Right, 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.640 I mean, there's no way the Calves are coming back 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:13.560 from three to zero. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.280 The Knicks have won ten postseason games in a row. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:18.640 Now that's a likable team right there. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.640 Jalen Brunson, guys were from the East Coast, but I 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.200 don't know Jalen Brunson a guy that uh r pal 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.000 Michael Rappaport said, he's like, he's like a regular guy 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:28.400 like us. 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.600 Like if you feel something when you watch Jalen Brunson 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:31.279 and other you. 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.920 Could imagine, you know, being him in the NBA. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:39.560 Right, you can't imagine being Wemby Underestimated Dallas took him 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.040 for granted, shipped them off to New York. The biggest 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.039 names in sports media said, not a great deal. The 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.920 Knicks can't build around this guy. Every step of the way, 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:53.600 this guy's been downplayed and now finally we're like, Yo, Brunson's. 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:57.600 The guy really likable. I have a two part douzy 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.960 of a hypothetical. Oh my goodness to part thhusy. Let's 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.640 go part one. 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.480 If the Knicks win eleven in a row after tonight, 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.680 but go on to lose the NBA Finals to the 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:16.800 Thunder via the Thunder or the Spurs. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.240 Well hold on. In our pre show meeting, and believe 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.720 it or not, we had one. Rich was pretty confident 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.440 when he said it that they would. You did allude 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.960 to let's be real. I mean that, you're like, let's 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.599 be real. On paper, they're not going to beat anyone 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.080 out of the West, whether it's Okaye or the Spur. 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.200 So I was like, I don't know when you said that. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.679 The only reason I remember that is because I remember thinking, 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.440 what makes you so sure that they won't. I think 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:42.680 they're gonna bring the fight. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.479 So yeah, and you have been wrong about basketball before 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.000 because you only watch the playoffs. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.960 So when you when you look at a lot of 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:56.000 the nineteen nineties dominant NBA teams, they couldn't get the 0:05:56.120 --> 0:06:00.119 job done because of this gentleman named Michael Jordan. You'll 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:04.360 get some of those Sonics teams, the Blazers, the Utah 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.720 Jazz notably right, a couple close ones, but you know, 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.040 Malone and Stockton just couldn't get past MJ and Pippen 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.240 and Rodman and those guys. So when you look at 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.279 some of those teams, the Pacers teams and Knicks teams 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.640 that couldn't get past the Bulls, whether it was in 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.440 the finals or Eastern Conference finals. Do you always look 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:27.359 at that as a disappointment or do you go with 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.440 jihannest You remember a couple of years ago, Yanna said 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.400 you can't look at a championship as the only good season, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.719 because you got to be proud of the season you 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:37.160 put together. 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:38.960 Remember that whole narrative's. 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.800 True to that, and that's a positive spin. But there's 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.440 some expectations when you're in New York and they've gotten 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.640 this far and they haven't done it in so long. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.800 I think that there's a lot of heartbreak there. Like, yeah, 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.239 there's moral victories, but honestly, the only victory is victory. 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.280 I like the Blue Jays. Did the Blue Jays have 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.599 this moral victory? Like we took the Dodgers to Game seven, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.159 A depends and day we were we were one Will 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.520 Smith like foot lift up and down from winning the 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:05.279 World Series. 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:09.200 Eh, I'll give you a Canadian two current examples or 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.080 what do you think they're like, there's something serious. 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:12.760 There's such things as moral victories. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.680 There really is, but it's case by case and this 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:22.360 weekend when this Rico guy fought Alexander Usik and. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.280 They stopped the fight like prematurely. 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.840 No one gave this guy a shot to even win it, 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.600 Like they're like, yeah, who's this tomato CANSI was? 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:31.360 Usik? 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.040 For the record was minus three thousand in Vegas. Rico 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:35.800 was so close to an upset. 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:37.600 If they didn't stop the fight and he made it 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.880 through the last round, you could argue was questionable, but 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.160 he probably would have got the win, maybe would have 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.840 gotten the win out he was up big. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:46.760 Yeah, well. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.440 From my point of view, yes, the judges, you know, 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.520 who cares what they think. But the point is he 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.920 went the distance like a Rocky Balboa. No one expected 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.480 Rocky to go the distance, and sometimes going the distance. 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:03.000 Is the more old victory. The Knicks go in the distance. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.040 That doesn't that's not the same thing, you see what 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.560 I mean? Like, they're the New York Knicks. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.200 And they're playing great, and they got big stars and 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.360 they've gone far already with Brunson. 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:16.280 So I don't I don't think you're you're saying like 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.000 a small college it's like a fifteen seed in Mark 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:20.320 mad Who the Knicks are? 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.440 There's expectations there. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.720 When when a when a small college team makes it 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.560 to the Elite eight or Final four, it's like, oh 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.640 my god, that's the victory. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.920 You're saying, the New York Knicks NBA title or nothing. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.440 That's the that's the goal. You know, it's professional sports. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.720 That's another thing. It's the NBA finals. They're they're on 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:42.000 a run right now. They're playing with momentum, they're playing 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.439 with that fire. All the superstars are out. They got everybody's. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.720 Attention speaking of their superstars like Patrick Ewing and John 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.920 Starks and those guys. They went to the finals. They 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.839 took New York to the finals. It never ended well. 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.920 And so that's why Knicks fans are not going to 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.000 be happy with anything but a victory. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:01.280 Will the glad you see in the final. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:05.120 And I think moral victories apply to people like you 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.440 don't expect to be there. You don't really know by name, 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.839 You don't identify them. Who knew that guy Rico over 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.560 the weekend unless you're a kickboxing fan because it was 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:19.360 his second professional boxing fight. He's a kickboxing champion. You know, 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.880 you don't expect that to happen. You sort of are 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.080 expecting now the Knicks to do something with this team. 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.160 So here's part two of the question. Then, so I 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:34.000 know the question the question, Rich. The first question is 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.480 is it success even if they lose to somebody in 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.880 the West, And I say no, not. At this point, 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:41.480 you could say there's a hell of a lot of 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.520 AFC teams that had a great run but bumped into 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:49.280 the Cowboys or Niners in the late eighties early nineties. 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:49.400 Right. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.200 I wouldn't say it's a guarantee, Rich, that someone from 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.880 the West beats the Knicks. You could say that there 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:56.839 have been plenty of great teams that just ran into 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:57.720 a dynasty. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:09:58.600 Right. 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:00.840 My forty nine Ers ran into the Chiefs a couple 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:07.640 times in the Super Bowl in Mahomes Prime. If Jalen Brunson, 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:13.280 here's the part two of the doozy. If Brunson leads 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:18.360 this Knicks team to glory, if they win tonight, fortune 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.400 in Gloe, or in a couple of days go to 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:24.000 the NBA Finals and somehow some way beat the Thunder 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:29.640 or the Spurs, would Jalen Brunson be a bigger hero 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.160 than Patrick Ewing in. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.640 New York, more revered than Ewing. The answer is yes. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.920 Here's why Ewing may have been the biggest star of 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.440 our come up on the East Coast. I mean he 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.000 was the face of the Knicks fas one of the 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.080 biggest big men of our time, guys like Shaquille O'Neal. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.079 I looked over, I look over for Patrick Ewing, knows. 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.160 My guy, Like he doesn't get the credit he deserves 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.040 even now, Like how many people bring up Patrick Ewing? 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:58.360 Not enough, is my point. 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.400 So if Brunson leads them to a victory, yeah, he's 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.280 more revered than you and all those. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:04.880 Guys come find. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.400 But at the same time, you have to put a 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.920 little bit of context to it. Michael Jordan always stood 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.000 in the next way. That's that's why does not have 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:14.440 to go up against a Michael Jordan. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.079 But you know what he has to go up against, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:19.240 perhaps a back to. 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:23.480 Back unproven still unproven in the Spurs. And let's say 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.880 the Spurs do advance the way Wemby and the Spurs 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.439 came out flat in Game three. If that happens in 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.000 the finals, the Knicks can beat them. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.439 Mike Sailor hit us up on the inhow Chatty goes Now. Unfortunately, 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.319 the Knicks are playing for second place and a lot 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:36.959 of people. 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.600 Feel I'm not buying that just flights their fire even 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.800 more so let me ask you this, then, Danny, you 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.160 root for teams that have won other than the Raiders. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.760 You were like a little boy and diapers on the Raiders. 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.120 One lest I mean, Danny's big Dodgers. 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.040 Got don't know what I'm saying. The Frank McCourt years 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:52.679 here in La. 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.760 I'm saying Dodgers, Danny's Dodgers and Lakers. So you've had 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.040 some recent glory, yo. 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:01.040 Man, And I'm rooting for the Golden Knights. So all 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:01.200 of a. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.720 Sudden, he's a big hockey fan. My boys are hockey 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.920 hockey fans. I still Danny came in full hockey erse 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:09.920 I did. I didn't grow up with hockey. I still 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.240 don't understand all the rules of hockey. So Danny's like 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.800 what I see, like I love with all the off sides, 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:17.240 damn it. 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.119 So take some extra extra for this guy. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:26.080 So when you when you when you do think about 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.800 teams that really make a run but come up short 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:36.280 with superstars. If if another guy wins for your team, 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.440 is is that the guy now in that city? Like 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.360 I know you're saying, like you're you're like a guy 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.200 like Damn Marino never won. Yeah, because I say, I'm 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:46.960 gonna give you a like forget thought. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:51.320 You're forgetting about a younger generation that really never saw 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.720 you in play Starks, any of those guys play Oakley. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.320 You know, they don't care about those older sore just 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.120 all do sit up. So there's a whole younger generation 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.679 at all they're gonna know is Towns and Bronson and 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.120 all the New York Knicks that have gone this far. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.920 So I think it's a matter of we have reference 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.199 to these old dudes, but a lot of young people don't. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.160 I mean, you got to pick a team, Danny, that 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.160 doesn't have much of a history, right Like, look at 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:18.319 my sad New York Mets. 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:20.360 They're far away from winning. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.040 In fact, I'm pretty sure they have like the second 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.360 worst record in the National League right now. Just when 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.160 you thought, ooh, maybe they're turning it around, they get 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.679 swept by the Marlins and they're still sticking with like 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:33.800 their front office like it's embarrassing. If the Mets do, however, 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.640 somehow find a way to win in the next five years, 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.080 the thirstiest fan base the Mets by that point, the Mets, 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.400 well have not won in fifty years since eighty six. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.439 Where you know what I'm saying, like, pretty soon we're 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:46.160 gonna come up on. 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:50.560 Fifty years, Rich is saying and describing what I see 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.200 every time I go to City Field. Used to be 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.160 Shay because when it was Shaye Stadium even worse because 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:57.720 it's like a time. It was like you were stuck 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.640 in time because their only highlights were from sixty nine 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.200 and eighty six, Like their last highlight was it was 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.319 Ray Knight cheering up and down and uh it's his name, 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.200 Rosco throwing the glove up in the air. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.720 Right. It was like they were stuck in eighty six. 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.880 So while all this time has passed and it was like, 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:16.839 let's just say the Mets win in five years from now, 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.880 and like these young guys like Ewing and you know, 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:21.880 BEng and you. 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:25.080 Just see lesser memories of eighty six doesn't go away. 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.600 But what some of those highlights are replaced with the 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:27.880 new one. 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:29.680 What I'm saying, well, those guys, let you say, some 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.600 of the young guys on the Mets in five years 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.240 from now are the core of a team. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.280 Ben and Ewing and Soto's like their leader. 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.400 If they ended up winning a World Series, would they 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:48.000 be more revered than David Wright, Piazza, Pete Alonzo, guys 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.360 that never got it done. Yes, they'd have to be 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:55.080 because they want. So I'm saying is if Jalen Brunson 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.520 in New York City, Danny g and by the way, 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.680 nobody's become bigger heroes than those superstar as you mentioned 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.000 Keith Hernandez and Roun Darling in eighty six. Mets like 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.320 that are still living off that eighty six glore. They're 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.000 part of the team's front office, they're part of the 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.120 team's broadcasting team. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:09.880 They're part of it. 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.480 So I'm saying that if Jalen Brunson found a way 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:16.040 to win, dude, he would be the most popular Nick. Well, 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.080 he'd jump over you Ing and Starks and all those 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.440 guys because he got done with they couldn't. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.400 Unfortunately, hopefully he would embrace them and bring them to 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.240 the party, so he's celebrating holding up Ilarry O'Brien. He'd 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.280 point to Patrick youw In and be like, this is 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:29.840 for you. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.520 I love that. I want that for the Knicks. I 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.160 even said last year, I wanted that for the Bills. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.400 You know, because that'd be nice, right, it's for the 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.360 old guys that got them. There's for the fans that 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:43.080 didn't get a chance to see it. I think it's dope. 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.640 But to answer the question again the two part doozy 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:50.000 was is it still a successful season if you made 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.200 it this far and you lost to a great team 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.760 like the Thunder or the Spurs. The answer is no, 0:15:56.200 --> 0:16:00.880 the Knicks got to win or it's a failure. That's 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.480 the I give it to Derek Jeter mindset because he's 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:07.920 often said that part two is Brunson more revered than 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.440 the Ewings of the world, the Knicks legends if he's 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.120 part of the team that wins it. All the answers yes, 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:22.120 move over Ewing and Starks, I meaning Marmelo and all 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:23.560 the guys that you know, they were names and they 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.880 were you know La Trell's Freewell, that was my guy. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.400 I mean they were they were great moments for the. 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.479 Next time they had had Jenny Skywalker. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.880 Yeah, they had a lot of great players, great moments. Mason, 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.680 you know, some superstars. That dog yeah, I mean he 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:42.400 was got haircuts based on this guy. Absolutely rest in peace. 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:46.320 But the answer is yes, this team even like the 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.760 ancillary guys off the bench are more revered than some 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.520 of the legends cause they were part of that team. 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.680 They're part of those highlights that live at the garden 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:55.920 until the next time they do it. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:00.280 That's why there's such an emphasis on bunk organization like 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.640 the Jets and the Browns and the Lions. The Lions are, 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.000 you know, playing good football now, But what is it 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.200 if you become the guy? You know, how many young 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.480 quarterbacks that are confident, like I want to be the 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:12.840 guy now? 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:14.159 A lot of people don't want to play for like 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:15.480 the Jets of the Browns. 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.080 But I promise you if you were to be the 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:23.119 person that took that team and finally did something, you 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:24.880 got you got statues being made. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:25.680 Yeah, you're the hero. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.400 You have streets being named, you are in the Ring 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.119 of Honor automatically like it's it's it's just it's wild 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:38.399 to think how when a team doesn't have much history 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:42.680 of winning that if you do win, you you leapfrog 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:44.000 all the legends of that team. 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.320 And another point I just want to make as far 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.800 as being revered, Danny g talked about it. You mentioned it, 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.720 you said, Michael Rappaport said, it, but it's so true. 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.160 Brunston is absolutely the hero of New York because he 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.320 resonates with the people of New York. Although everyone loved 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.760 Youing and everyone loved those casting characters, what stood out 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.919 the most Stark's dunking on Jordan right like that was 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.280 the poster because Starks was like the guy that you 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.000 could see yourself being kind of right. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:11.159 He wasn't a superstar. 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:16.080 He was an extra flashy Brunson is that gritty dude 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.760 that New Yorkers identify with and that they're rooting for 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.640 because he plays tough. He doesn't have all these superstar qualities. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:28.440 He's not seven foot nothing. So he absolutely is revered 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.439 his team. He's the guy, He's the hero if they 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:33.240 win it all, man, it is so cool to see. 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.720 So the answer is, yes, he's more revered than any 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.480 nick legend before him because it's been It's been way 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:40.840 long now, guys, no doubt. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.280 So they are your thoughts. At eight, seven, seven, nine 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.480 nine on Fox, Dany g who we got. Let's go 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.080 to Matt and SoCal and by the way, Pete hit 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:52.439