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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal verbal hull that for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy, you want to be happy for Dake Edith Steak,

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Speaker 2: is that whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye, Hey everybody,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to solid verbal. My name is Dan. Tye

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Speaker 2: is not on the show because out of principle, he

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Speaker 2: decided that he couldn't take thirty five to fifty two

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Speaker 2: minutes on the Oregon Ducks. That's not sure at all.

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Speaker 2: I told him I could go solo because Jeff Schwartz

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Speaker 2: is on the show. He's on the line as we speak.

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Speaker 2: Ty did a Notre Dame episode with the athletics Pete

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Speaker 2: Sampson that was very, very good. So I'm going to

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Speaker 2: tell you right now, if the title of this show

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Speaker 2: didn't deter you already, uh, it's going to be two

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Speaker 2: people who might be complaining about a team that went

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Speaker 2: thirteen to zero in their first season in a new conference,

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Speaker 2: were number one the back half of the season of

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Speaker 2: the most notorious infamous booster behind the scenes, and we

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Speaker 2: are going to try to limit our whining about how

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Speaker 2: we feel in this moment because there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: really good things to talk about, obviously, with the state

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Speaker 2: and health of the Oregon Duck program. As always, if

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Speaker 2: show and whatever. Solid verbal at gmail dot com all

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Speaker 2: you know, all those things are meaningful. Jeff, how are

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Speaker 2: you well?

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Speaker 1: Dan? How can you complain about a team that had

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Speaker 1: the best record in college football and has an unclaimed championship?

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Speaker 1: So things will looking up?

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Speaker 2: Oh, because there was a hole. There was some sort

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Speaker 2: of championship giverrouter who decided to have organ fished.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Wolf ratings.

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Speaker 2: That sounds right.

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Speaker 1: Oregon was number one in the country. It says here

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Speaker 1: that Ohio state number two tourney champ though, so it's

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Speaker 1: like this is I mean, it's how Washington claims won

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Speaker 1: do that too, right.

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Speaker 2: Why not the twenty twenty four Oregon Ducks are national

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Speaker 2: champions of another era, of a different era.

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Speaker 1: One. Yeah, okay, we'll start the complaining immediately. It does

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Speaker 1: feel like we we have just we hit the playoff

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Speaker 1: when we would not have played Ohio I mean we

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Speaker 1: would have played for someone not Ohio State, right, who

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Speaker 1: was number two that year? Bama?

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Speaker 2: It was Bama, right that year it was Oregon. Florida

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Speaker 2: State I think was two and three and Bama was

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Speaker 2: won four against Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Was so we wouldn't played Ohio States, which we can't

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Speaker 1: see the beaten in the postseason, would have just played

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Speaker 2: It may have been well, the twenty thirteen national championship

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Speaker 1: The point is it's one game, one game against someone

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Speaker 1: is what it is. Obviously we've been close, but it

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Speaker 2: Even in the twenty twenty three season, Oregon in a

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Speaker 2: twelve team operation. Now Oregon obviously loses to Washington twice.

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Speaker 2: That was the thorn. Washington was proved it on the field,

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Speaker 2: And I understand, I'm self aware enough to know that

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Speaker 2: Let's start here. When you look at twenty twenty four specifically,

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Speaker 2: But you know, how is this team managed? How is

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing that I've reiterated to many

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Speaker 1: people that doubt Dan lay especially after the Ohio State loss, right,

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Speaker 1: is that every year they've gotten better. Right. The first

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Speaker 1: But also the two years ago and they lost are three.

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Speaker 2: Boise State should be mentioned playoff team, right that like

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Speaker 2: it was a close win against the playoff team, a

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Speaker 1: It's so funny and comfortable too that like as we

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that was September thirteenth, that was four months ago.

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Speaker 1: That game does not count to breaking down whether or

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Speaker 1: unimportant for that. Teams changed so much month to month,

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Speaker 1: week to week at times. As far as the coordinator, so,

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Speaker 1: I love Landing is fantastic. I think he's a great coach.

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Speaker 1: I think we will want a championship at some point

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Speaker 1: lest I hope so might not be next year. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about next year in a second. Will Stein so

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Speaker 1: look when he I remember you sent me this clip

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Speaker 1: I want to take those shots, and very clearly they eat.

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Speaker 1: they were certainly saving things for Ohio State game and

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Speaker 1: for other points around the season. But you know, Dylan

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Speaker 2: Limitation that he measured in at five to ten at

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Speaker 1: So everything that was basically the game plan was edges

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Speaker 1: we're running the football, come hell or high water, no RPOs.

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Speaker 2: Which was a big thing of where Ohio State started

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Speaker 2: would make offenses, especially offenses that were running RPO stuff,

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because you know when you watch Ohio State

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Speaker 1: it forced you to run the football. And then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, those safeties, especially downs just comes out

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Speaker 1: just they just created a move a lot and created havoc.

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Speaker 1: So I like, what what will Stein is going to do?

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Speaker 1: And look, Dante Moore is really good. Okay, when you

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Speaker 2: Right and Penn State scored whatever thirty seven. They were

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Speaker 2: in rotation but will now be full time starters. Linebacker.

435
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Speaker 2: It seems the secondary, even with the Purdue transfer, in

436
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: the Northwestern transfer, we'll be playing a lot more guys

437
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: developed in program. So that should be fascinating. It seems.

438
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it. This is part of the reason

439
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: why you know, twenty twenty five to me is not

440
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: a championship year. It's just because of those as you mentioned,

441
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 1: like all the new guys that have to play AT's positions, right,

442
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 1: But again, the schedule, like Oregon's gonna win eleven games.

443
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean the Penn State game on the road is

444
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Speaker 1: about the only one I look at right now, like

445
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: that one looks tough. Otherwise I was scheduled day. I mean,

446
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: they don't go after they they do Penn State and

447
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 1: then they play at home and they go to Rutgurse.

448
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: There's a buy at some point in the I think

449
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Speaker 1: that in that week, in one of those weeks after that,

450
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Speaker 1: I think they only go as far east as Iowa

451
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: and then like it's it's a bunch of home games

452
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Speaker 1: and you go to Washington that the it's not bad

453
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Speaker 1: at the end of the season, and you mentioned they

454
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Speaker 1: pay Week four at Penn State, it's gonna be hard

455
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Speaker 1: because it's Dante Moore's first big road start or in

456
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Speaker 1: the season. But Penn State offensively, I don't know what

457
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Speaker 1: they're going to be. I don't know what how they're

458
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Speaker 1: gonna place the guys on defense.

459
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Speaker 2: As well, and it's a new defense of course.

460
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Speaker 1: It's a little different there as well. But the young

461
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: guys just it's up to the staff to get these

462
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Speaker 1: guys ready to play. It's now time. This is this

463
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: is the way it works. You draft these young means,

464
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Speaker 1: you draft them, you send these young players and at

465
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Speaker 1: some point they have to start getting the run. And

466
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: they added again the safety that late safety from I

467
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: think Old Miss was they added a couple of weeks ago. Yeah.

468
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big one is from Prudue Dylan Thineman.

469
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, who seems really fantastic. So yeah, these young guys

470
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: just got a ball, man like, it's that simple, and

471
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: we've seen nothing to where you wouldn't believe the coaches

472
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: can get these guys ready. The dumbest thing ever is

473
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Speaker 1: just like that, all the rivals like, we don't you

474
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: don't develop anyone. It's like the dumb It's like the

475
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: dumbest Washington fans who have literally zero players being drafted

476
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: this season. Sure, you don't develop anybody. It's just like

477
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 1: the dumbest thing ever. Like Derek Harmon had was not

478
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: the same player he goes to Oregon, He's ten times

479
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: better first round draft pick, like that Bucky Irving? What

480
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: was Bucky Irving in Minnesota? Was he the same player? No? No,

481
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't. So the coaches have a great track rerun

482
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: to develop these players, and that's what they're going to

483
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: need on defenses. Right.

484
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: So, in the way that you heard stories and there

485
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: was reporting about how Michigan and slowly but surely sort

486
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: of crafted their vision and their scheme specifically for Ohio

487
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 2: State that they felt like they could win every other

488
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: game because they had better players, that they had good scheme, whatever.

489
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: But it was a sort of a tunnel vision about

490
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 2: Ohio State is Oregon in that like in that path

491
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: where they're like, we this is all about the Buckeyes

492
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: at this point, even with a new quarterback. But Jeremiah

493
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: Smith's going to be there another couple of seasons. Obviously

494
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 2: this is an overhauled Ohio State situation, but it can

495
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: Oregon afford to say that this is sort of a

496
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: one team path for us along with obviously there are

497
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: going to be sec powers powers from other conferences that

498
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: they may meet if they make the playoff. But is

499
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Speaker 2: it a tunnel vision situation?

500
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Speaker 1: Well, I think you have to considering what happened against

501
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: Washingtons I mentioned earlier, like the same thing happened in

502
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: both those games, and Oregan just didn't score enough points

503
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: against so ohiose did to keep it closer in that

504
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: game where we were watching, defense was so very good,

505
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: But you have to sacrifice some of that identity, right

506
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: because you're just not going to be You have to

507
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: just when you play a lot of zone for the

508
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: most part, not every team to plays zone, but you're

509
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: gonna allow yards just you just are. And then you

510
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: have to play a great red zone defense. Was Orgon

511
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: was good in the red zone last year anyway, So

512
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: you limit explain, right, So you just like but it's

513
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: it's hard, I think, as a coach who grew up

514
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: with this sort of style of defense to say, okay,

515
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: we'll pull back a little bit and we'll let them

516
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: get the yards underneath. But then we we if we

517
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: do play Ohio State, Texas LSU like somebody these, you

518
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna be ready for those for those opponents,

519
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: that I think is the hard part for a coach.

520
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: But as I mentioned before, I don't know what Lenny's

521
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: gonna do, but he has shown that he will adapt,

522
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: he will adjust, he will adapt, and maybe for the

523
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: young and two I think too sometimes when you maybe

524
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: have the recruits and these transfer portal players and young

525
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: kids are playing early just saying hey, you have to

526
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to coach that, to coach, you know,

527
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: inverted cover two. It's just easier to do that. And

528
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: now these guys have been there for three years. I'd

529
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: imagine they've seen everything. They haven't some haven't played. But

530
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: maybe he feels more comfortable with some of the zone

531
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: techniques because they practice them for three years now.

532
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: Right fair on the other side of the ball, and

533
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: this is your bread and butter Oregon. As you mentioned,

534
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: it was sort of a different team those first two

535
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 2: games once they got the offensive line situated with I

536
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 2: think it's Niad Struther came in at left guard and

537
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: Poncho at center that the unit became a lot more solid.

538
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: Isn't me a new unit this year? For the most part,

539
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: two new tackles, a new guard, and we'll see who

540
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: gets the other guard spot. But it's you know, it's

541
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 2: a USC transfer, it's Nevada transfer, it's a Texas state transfer.

542
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: You think might play guard and not tackle. But how

543
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 2: do you evaluate that kind of overhaul, especially from the

544
00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 2: portal which has not necessarily been a strategy of of

545
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: deep playoff teams to restock offensive line.

546
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I end up. Look, Isaiah World is the

547
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: left tackle. He's really really good. I don't care what

548
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: anyone says. I do. I'm unaffected by other people's analysis

549
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: of his film. They don't have the film, by the way,

550
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: they have TV copy.

551
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, Michigan, I think had it at

552
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 2: least a couple Portal guys on their offensive line when

553
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: they won the title.

554
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: You can, I think you can have like two. I

555
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: think the two feels good. So he's incredible, he's really good.

556
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: And he'll start at left tackle day one.

557
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: You mentioned the USC kid probably say to play left

558
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: guard is what sounds like early on Poncho's at center,

559
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: Looy's at right guard, who got better throughout the season.

560
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: I wish they played a little bit more, but I

561
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: get why they went back to Harper there. And the

562
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: right tackle is the one that's interesting to me because

563
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: Wilson was their sixth offensive lineman last season, caught touchdown,

564
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: passed the jumbo tight.

565
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: End he did. I think that the record set.

566
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Speaker 1: Yeah for Gabriel so past I think they want him

567
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: to play. If you're the sixth guy, that means the

568
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: next year you're like in the starting lineup, you know,

569
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: like they want you to play the one you get

570
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: those reps for a reason beyond the field he used

571
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: to playing and the Texas State transfer. I just don't

572
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: see him as a Power five tackle against Ohio State

573
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: and Penn State did I see him as a It's

574
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: almost insurance. I mean, Strauther wasn't supposed to start when

575
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: he got to Oregon. I think, like he I know

576
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: he got I'm not sure he was he was supposed

577
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: to start, really, but I think that that that's a

578
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: if it's Turkey right, that's the right tackle. I think

579
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: just he's probably the sixth guy, like he's sort of

580
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 1: right there, and I think to the point about like

581
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: talent like pored over is not you would rather I

582
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 1: think have Wilson play who you recruited. You've built up elite.

583
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: Terry now is in year three, correct of that, right,

584
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: he's only thirty one. Avana, who was sort of behind

585
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: the scenes, went back to Oregon State. I'm curious, wo

586
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: they higher as sort of the veteran in that room,

587
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: but maybe not just say that can handle it now

588
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: by himself. It's also possible that that's the way that

589
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: they go. So I am it's a very talented offensive line.

590
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: We played Montana State early in week one. I think

591
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: we'll be fine. I think it's Oklahoma State's next, and

592
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: the Northwestern and then Oregon State. And it's the first

593
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: month of the season. Oklahoma State has to replace a

594
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: ton right off the roster from last year, and they

595
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: come out to Anyways and we go to Northwestern. You'll

596
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: be there. I would imagine Northwestern I'm gonna I would

597
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: imagine it's going to look very green and yellow in

598
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: the stands. Oh with the temporary stadium too, I forgot

599
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: like a little.

600
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: It's on the lake temp if they did a good job, and.

601
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: Then we got the Beavers who are just kind of

602
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: just not feel bad for them. They're just not good.

603
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: So we have a four game stretch of sort of

604
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: breaking these guys before we go to Penn State. You know,

605
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: but Penny's going to be hard. I'm telling you right now, guys,

606
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: you have a not a new quarterback. He's played culturable

607
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: four but new in this offense with a bunch of

608
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: new offensive linemen. That place is can be loud. I'd

609
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: imagine it's big new kickoff. So it's an early kickoff

610
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: for Oregon as well. That game is going to be

611
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: hard once you get through that game. Nothing else Worries

612
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: made the rest of the season as far as like

613
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: does idea of you know, I always gonna be hard

614
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: to Iowa was defense plays good. They're a good sound defense.

615
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna be fine. They're very talented man,

616
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: and we saw last season the improvements throughout the season

617
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: we saw. We saw connor Ley at left tackle last

618
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: six weeks season played really well. He shut down off

619
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: Dull Carter and in the big the championship game, we

620
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: saw Shruder get in there and play well. We've seen

621
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: Poncho get better throughout his career. Now Louie is a

622
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: true freshman, just being thrown in there at the end

623
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Speaker 1: of the season. Sorry Dutry freshman, but for the first

624
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: time playing I should say. You know, he was hurt

625
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: last season, hurt this season, So you got to feel

626
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: good about where that offense is out up front. It

627
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: might take some there'll be some bumps and bruises, but

628
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: I think they'll be okay when it comes time to,

629
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, bracing November December.

630
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: I almost think the biggest question obviously, there's like the obvious,

631
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: like Oregon's offense will go as Dante Moore will go.

632
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: Dante Morris played college football, Dante mor has reps, He's

633
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: a five star. It almost seems like they go as

634
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: I think one of the most unproven receiver rooms that

635
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: Oregon has seen in quite some time. Like that, it

636
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: seems like the raw talent is there. Obviously. Evan Stewart

637
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: is coming back after he was beat up near the

638
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty four and wasn't a factor against

639
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: either Penn State or Ohio State. After he was in

640
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: that first game in a huge way against Ohio State,

641
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: so he's back. Kenyan Cidiq should slide in nicely to

642
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: tight end one. But in terms of whether it's transfers,

643
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: whether it's guys who've been biting time in the program

644
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: for a year or two, whether it's a true freshman

645
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: and to Krean Moore who comes in as a five star,

646
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: it seems like when that room sorts itself out after

647
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: how much Oregon was able to thrive on the back

648
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: of truly tes Johnson these past couple seasons, that's going

649
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: to be a fascinating development to like that. I think,

650
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: more than anything, may determine Oregon sealing the next two seasons.

651
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the one thing that I think excites me

652
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: about this group like right now and what they can

653
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: be early in the season is it's mostly guys that

654
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: were second team then More has been throwing to in

655
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: practice for over a year now, so he's had a

656
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: little bit of He hasn't a relationship with them with

657
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: the ones per se, but he's been doing scout team

658
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: with McClelland, who looked good in the limited amount of

659
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: reps you saw last season, Justice Low before Tess got hurt.

660
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: He was second team. He's probably practicing a little bit

661
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: with Dauante Moore, Evan Stewart wasn't. But Evan Stewart is

662
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: a go get the ball guy. You know, he's just

663
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: like the ball's far as far as you can guy.

664
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: The question is sort of who is next? Right, So

665
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: Gary Bryant Jr. I don't feel it's just a dude,

666
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: I think, right, just a just a guy. Malik Bentson

667
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything for me. I don't. I don't really

668
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: feel great about that. If Kyle Casper is good, he's

669
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: the big body they need, like he's six' four, they could.

670
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: He looked good until he got hurt last season, uh

671
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: in earlier that year. And I think the one everyone

672
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: is excited about is is is more right? And I

673
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: the staff has been very hasitant to play young wide receivers.

674
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: They just haven't done it. Dicky hasn't played nearly at all. McClellan. Look,

675
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: mcclen only got five targets all season, all five. You

676
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: look good, look great in all five targets. It is

677
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: I've been told that is it? Decoryan? Is that you

678
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: say it?

679
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: I believe Coreyan Moore.

680
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: Is as good as advertised, not from not from anyone

681
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: in the staff. I've been told that someone who knows

682
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: people who knows people whatever, and instead he will play

683
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: as a true freshman. I believe it when I see it,

684
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: because Dan Landing has just not played young wide receivers.

685
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: He's played young offensive lineman, he's played young running backs,

686
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: young runner he has not played these wide recent ends.

687
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: So that to me is is fascinating that if he's

688
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: as good as we think our tight ends with with

689
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: look this, Jamio Johnson kid is good too. With him

690
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: and Sadiq, we got two good tight ends. It's just

691
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: a matter of I think to your point, like how

692
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: quickly can the wide receivers gel in this offense? Because look,

693
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: I have no reservation about Dante more I just don't

694
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: we judged him so harshly for his rookie for his

695
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: non rookie season's true freshman season, like freshman. Yeah, it's

696
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: hard to play the true fesshmen. He had to go

697
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: to Utah. I looked it up that I was doing

698
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: pack to a radio at the time. I think Justin

699
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: Herbert was the last true freshman to win a game

700
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: in Utah as a quarterback, and that was like twenty sixteen,

701
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: and every freshman who plays there complete precent' is like

702
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: forty nine percent. It's hard. But he went to Oregon

703
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: State like that was organ State. It's best team they've

704
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: had in twenty years. Like, yeah, he didn't play well

705
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: in that game in core of allis what a shock

706
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: a true freshman didn't play well on the road to

707
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: get the a ten win team like so like and

708
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: then you know they I think you see I started

709
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: the year where Dante Moore was like third, but then

710
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: he played a bunch. It's just just a weird, weird

711
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: rotation with Dante Moore. He sat last season in this offense,

712
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: he gets a start right now as the quarterback of

713
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: the future. And when you talk to players about him,

714
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: he's not Patrick Mahomes. Don't don't don't get this wrong.

715
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: But we heard sort of the same things about him, like, oh,

716
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: let's get a practice, like he's good, he's waiting his time.

717
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: And then when we saw him play, Dantemore played a

718
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: little bit and they didn't do much on offense, but

719
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: there were a couple of throws you're like, oh, that's

720
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: a little different. He hit that trying to hit that

721
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: whole shot down the sideline against cover two. There's a

722
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: little when you played cover two, there's a safety deep

723
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: and there's a corner right there's a little window. It's

724
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: called the honey hole right in that window. I mean,

725
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: he freaking launched the ball. There was a great throw

726
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: young wide receiver missed it maybe overthrown by half a yard,

727
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: but like there's some throws he made. Even just I

728
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: joked about this. Was it the Rose Bowl and they

729
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: put him into the double passers that the Big Ten

730
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: Championship game, maybe Big Ten Championship game. And he had

731
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 1: a throwaway but he threw the ball from like one

732
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: sideline to the other side of the field. Yeah, with

733
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: just ease, Like he threw the ball across the field

734
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: to throw it away, and little stuff like that. The

735
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: talent is there. But will Stein guys has had bow

736
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: Nicks and Dylan Gabriel both have been in New York

737
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 1: for the Heisman ceremony.

738
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 2: He's been in New York. He's been in Eugene two years.

739
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: Will Stein both quarterbacks and to please different from the

740
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: other one.

741
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: So the idea, like I just think I think more

742
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. And I think this year too,

743
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: like with with Hughes and Whittington, this Riggs kid is

744
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: good man, Holy he got what game did he played

745
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: was Washington?

746
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: He played in the in a couple of games, but yeah,

747
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: the Washington game, he got a few carries and he

748
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: just he sort of explodes out.

749
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: I mean, so they much like just run the ball

750
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: early this season too. I mean there's a possibility that

751
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 1: this is a very complete offense and they can work

752
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: Dante more in a little bit. I think that the

753
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: things that worry you are this offense line depth, which

754
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: is always a problem everywhere. I mean there's not you know,

755
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: I don't know who's the backup anywhere. Harky or Wilson

756
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: will be the backup at tackle. Maybe Harkey's a backup

757
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: of guard too. I don't know who's the backup center.

758
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: They've said that Bryce kid is supposed to be good,

759
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: right bolted.

760
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: That's like I've seen his name a couple of times.

761
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what concerned with the offense. I think

762
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fine. And do they get back to

763
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: taking those deep shots, because that's what they did. They

764
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: did Troy Franklin like a thousand yards. They threw the

765
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: ball deep all the time with bow Nix. So, uh,

766
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: that's what I hope they get back to.

767
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: It's it was also a twenty twenty four season on

768
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: the ground that was weirdly not that explosive. I think

769
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: Jordan James was good, but he was good as sort

770
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: of like a intermediate battering round.

771
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: Did you ever broke He never broke that one tackle.

772
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: He never like broke that like which.

773
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: Right the safety around the ankles or something.

774
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think I think Hughes Canon Riggs can

775
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: certainly do that. I think Riggs, again, we're basically this

776
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: off of fifteen carres. He saw the season, but like,

777
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: there's a thing you mentioned it as well, this is important.

778
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: We watched a lot of football, me and you. Yeah,

779
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: he looked noticeably different running the football than anyone else

780
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: the Oregan had touched football last season, like there was

781
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: and again end of the game against Washington, he's not

782
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: playing Washington starters, but there's they're backups and starters on

783
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: defense are probably the same caliber. He just like there

784
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: was a pop that was different with him than the

785
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: other running backs Orgon had. And so that's what I

786
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: think I'm excited about about Riggs.

787
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: I think that's right. I just remember thinking like, oh,

788
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 2: he's getting to he's getting through the line of scrimmage

789
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 2: a touch faster and sort of I have no idea

790
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: if he's going to be anywhere near as good, But

791
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: like Lemichael Remen.

792
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's where he was.

793
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: Just I think he's bigger than the Michael James. The

794
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: Another thing I'm wondering with you is where you think

795
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: Lanning's head is at this point. Obviously you mentioned the growth.

796
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: You mentioned, you know, increasing the winds and the visibility

797
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: of the program. It's a program that is publicly projecting

798
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: more than ever before the season. You have the giant

799
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: inflatable duck. Then you have the duck in the new

800
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: Big Ten offices and press conferences and stuff like that.

801
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: Then there's the weekly videos where Dan Lanning is getting

802
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: out to the world, the like the different themes for

803
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: the week. Right, there's there's a and then they fell

804
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: on their face more publicly than any team in the

805
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: playoff after being the sort of or one of the

806
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: handful of teams that helped to define the twenty twenty

807
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: four season. Where do you think his headspace is at

808
00:39:54,239 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: heading into year four in terms of running this program.

809
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: I have always felt that Landing is very self aware

810
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: about what he is a coach and where the program

811
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: is and should be. And I mention this again the

812
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: I told you I would take a not a shot

813
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: at Josh Pate. But just like he mentioned, he had

814
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: a video about USC like being back whatever that the

815
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: video was and what his message was like, they finally

816
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: hired the right people, and that might be right. I don't,

817
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: I know. They hired a news chief of staff and

818
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: play personnal guy. They also were like number one and

819
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: recruiting last year until four of their guys left, So

820
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 1: I don't We'll see what happens when they come down

821
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: to it. But Riley and Lanning were hired at the

822
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: same time. Lanning went ten and three, twelve and two,

823
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: thirteen and one or thirteen and two. Look, and Riley

824
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: went like eleven wins, seven wins, six.

825
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 2: One, thirteen and one thirteen one to be clear, only

826
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: lost thirteen.

827
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: One correct season. Yeah, he's gone up every year. Riley's

828
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: gone down every year. That has to mean something, right

829
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: where like every year every year or he gets is

830
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: getting incremently better starting from a very good spot in

831
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: US is getting any worse every season, And so that's

832
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: just my point about like I think Landing is really

833
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: good at figuring out the right buns to push, figuring

834
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: out where to add Like ross his dude, his portal

835
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: hits are huge, Like the portal, he is identifying exactly

836
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: the player. Now, I don't know if it's him or

837
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 1: Marshall or ever doing it, identifying the exact players they

838
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: need to be better at football and now though again

839
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: it's up to his guys that he recruited in the

840
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: year three basically not it's in year four. But this

841
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: this first full class of guys that come in the

842
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: field and play a lot this season. I don't think

843
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: they I won't put it. I'm a couple of words

844
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: in their mouth. I'll just tell you that this year,

845
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: to me, is not a championship season unless we catch

846
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: him breaks and whatnot. It's a it's a sort of

847
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: play the young guys get ready for twenty six when more.

848
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he can the NFL after the season,

849
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: but they might if he's good enough, they maybe they

850
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: pay him to stay. But like it's just next next season.

851
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: Those mature guys on those guys on defense are super mature.

852
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna lose possibly, mateo, But like you're gonna

853
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: have other guys that are ready to play football. So

854
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: but Dante Morris as good as we think he is,

855
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: dan It certainly can do it this season. I make

856
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: this point a lot Oregan fans. It's uh. I went

857
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: through the last like six coaches win the championship. No

858
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: one did it before the sixth season as a head coach.

859
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: Ryan Dad did it in sixth season. Dan Lane's only

860
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: been the coach three years. No previous experience. Urban Meyer,

861
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: you know he won year two at Florida, but he

862
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: was always a head coach of Bowling Green and Utah.

863
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: It's his first this is his first head coaching job.

864
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: It takes Marcus Freeman. It takes time, you know, it

865
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: just it takes time to get there. And you know

866
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: there's always Marcus Freeman. Notaly lost, but they're not as

867
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: talents as Ohio State. It takes years to build that

868
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: talent up to get the depth. I mean, think about

869
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: Ohio State's lost two of their best offensive linemen, and

870
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: their offensive line played great in the postseason, and there

871
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: were questions about Fry, who ended up leaving to Arizona.

872
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals. That's the depth you need to have.

873
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith won catch for three yards, but you score

874
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: thirty five points like that, and it takes years to

875
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: build Kirby smart by the way one in the six

876
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: season as well, it takes years to build that up.

877
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: So they've had the posting experience, now they've had conversation experience.

878
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: That experience would travel last year again with two long trips.

879
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: This year, they made no excuses, which is which is fantastic,

880
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: and the talent seems to get better every year that

881
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: they acquire, so I think you're looking up. I think

882
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: Landing is very self aware of what he is as

883
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: a coach where he can get better of what's needed

884
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: to win championships. And one thing too that I think

885
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: again it's also important, is he hires what appears to

886
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: be really good coaches. I don't know how else to

887
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: put it. I mean, these head coaches get promoted and

888
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: get other jobs, and the guy hires everyone's like, that's

889
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: the best hire you could ever have. So you got

890
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: to be pretty excited if you If you're organing, I

891
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: know that we have an advantage with resources and support,

892
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: but you need a guy that could use that correctly,

893
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: and I think Landing leverages the support he has in

894
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: Eugene into building a roster and a championship mindset, which

895
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: have to win the championship, which it's twelve teen playoff.

896
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: It's hard, man, Now we go fourteen Soon's it's a

897
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: long year, you know. It's I told you this this season.

898
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm a Chiefs fan, so the way I watch the

899
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: Chiefs in the regular season is all I care about

900
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: is how you get to the postseason. And for Organ

901
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: that's my same thought. Just how I don't care. I mean,

902
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: I like you to play well week to week, but

903
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: how do we look after the Big ten championship game?

904
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: Are we healthy? We're playing good football, That's all I

905
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: care about. Now We're We're not going to lose more

906
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: than two games this season. It's just there's just no

907
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: way unless Dante mor gets hurt and twelve guys are out.

908
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: But even then, like who is Maryland? I think it

909
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 1: just means no, Maryland doesn't come back to who played?

910
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: We played with someone late in the season, like some

911
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: bum team that comes to Atson. Are we are we

912
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: losing to that team if we're down seven guys, I

913
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: don't think so. So before us, isn't there like a

914
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: game who plays? Who comes before USC? I think we

915
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: go to Iowa. Then we have oh, Minnesota, it's Minnesota.

916
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: Not great good line.

917
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: I think we could be Minnesota for missing five starters,

918
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: don't you know as a matter of just getting to

919
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, the postseason's healthy spols, which we were last season.

920
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: We got we got their roadtively healthy. That plays up.

921
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: It's a big success. And winter losses in the national

922
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: football in the national and comfortball. Yeah.

923
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: I by the way, quarterback depth, I mean Austin Novasad,

924
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 2: who was a blue chip quarterback coming out of high school,

925
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: is not going to be the starter it seems this

926
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: coming season is still at Oregon and if he decides

927
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: to leave after spring, I don't know that to be

928
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: the case. There's no depth in that game.

929
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I look. Organ has done a really good job

930
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: of keeping their own players, which is a huge part

931
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: of this, of this whole operation. And the reason why

932
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: they do that is not because they pay the most money.

933
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: That's not what they do. It's just their nils is

934
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: so bunned up. It's just exactly the way should be.

935
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: The checks are always on time, there's no drama, there's

936
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: no and like that goes a long way. If you're

937
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: Austin novasad now with without without with the other kid

938
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: leaving the lefty. I mean he's in line now to

939
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: start next season. I know they have other players that

940
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: they've brought in, you know, Achilles Smith junior and ur

941
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: writing for another kid right now at twenty twenty six kid.

942
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 1: But you know, he's just wait your time. It's okay

943
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: to wait your time. That is an okay thing to do.

944
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: I think sometimes that we just we want to rush

945
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: into things, which is totally fine. But Austen, by the way,

946
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: there was a legit competition for second string last season,

947
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: at least what we were told. That's and so maybe

948
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: he's good too, and he's just waiting his time to play.

949
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: No, it's more than if he if there's an opportunity

950
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: somewhere after the spring, be a start.

951
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: But Austin hasn't played at all. Who's going to give

952
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: him opportunity. Who's going to be like that? That's my

953
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: that's my thing. It's like what they never see him play,

954
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: Who's going to sign him?

955
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, if you know somebody's quarterback

956
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: gets hurt during spring, you know, a team in the

957
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: Mountain West, a team in the American I don't know.

958
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: It's a good question. Here's my final question. I have

959
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: had a hard time, and you have too, of getting

960
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: excited about Oregon playing Illinois, Maryland, Michigan State Perdue, even

961
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: though Michigan State were talking about a program that had

962
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: an incredible amount of success in the twenty teens. There's

963
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: just not the like institutional scar tissue like there is

964
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: with Oregon playing ASU, Stanford, Wazoo. You know, take your pick, Utah, Colorado,

965
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: those teams. They've been meaningful, if not emotional, weird games

966
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: on the PAC twelve schedule while the PAC twelve existed

967
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 2: the way it used to. I will say this though,

968
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: arguably the low point or one of the low points

969
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: of your career as an Oregon Duck offensive lineman came

970
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: against twenty years twenty one years ago, the Indiana Hoosiers

971
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: in Oughtson Stadium.

972
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 1: We owe them.

973
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: Indiana returns to Ottson Stadium this year, and I just

974
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: want to congratulate you ahead of time, hopefully on the

975
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: ability after one of the most embarrassing losses in Oregon history,

976
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 2: which like Broke, I think like a home win snapped

977
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: a home win streak of some kind. I think Oregon

978
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: has the opportunity to uh to get long away to

979
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: the revenge on Indiana.

980
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: Of all we do, we do owe them, we know

981
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: them in big way. That was I mean seventh, that

982
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: boxcur is hilarious. We had like four hundred ninety five

983
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: yards they had like one to eighty seven and it's

984
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: seven turnovers. So that that that doesn't help.

985
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 2: You started as a true freshman that year I played.

986
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: I know I played the true freshman. That was gay

987
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: Week one. I didn't play till week like four at

988
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: Washington State, but I was just I was. I remember

989
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: walking home from that game thinking to myself, like, this

990
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: is what I signed up for. Like the loose Indiana.

991
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: We've only lost two non conference home games in like

992
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: thirty years, them in Boise State. Like that's that's it.

993
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: We don't we don't typically lose at home in the

994
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: non conference slate. So yeah, that's looked.

995
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: It's it's still weird though, right, It's still weird to

996
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: look at the schedule and say this is what lies

997
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: ahead of Oregon, this Big Ten schedule.

998
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: We beat a ranked Illinois team last season, like as

999
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: easy as you can beat a ranked team, like not

1000
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: even a sweat was it thirty eight nine something like this,

1001
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: just like not even close, like a blowout, right, I

1002
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: felt nothing. Yeah, we beat Maryland by nineteen points something

1003
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: like that. Like when you obviously I played against these

1004
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: teams like Call and Stanford and Arizona Arizona State, but

1005
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: like we have history with those teams, Like there's just nothing.

1006
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: It just it did nothing for me.

1007
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then people will say, well, this kind of

1008
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: thing takes time or whatever, and you build up that history.

1009
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: It was just like it's different when it's not in

1010
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: the region.

1011
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, you once every you're playing once every

1012
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: three years, what fifteen years from now, we'll have played

1013
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 1: Maryland four times, like building up a scar. Like Ohio

1014
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: State feels like our rival now, which is nice, but

1015
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: that's because we played them three years ago and we

1016
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 1: played them twice last season. That's why it feels like arrival.

1017
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: And we're both good being you know, being good means,

1018
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, like that's what a lot of the rivrey

1019
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: can be. At times. We have new rivalries, we're both

1020
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: to being the same thing that we paid. We played

1021
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: Penn State again this season, maybe that becomes a little

1022
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: bit of a rival as well. Right, So Yeah, it's

1023
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: just I felt dude, I just I felt nothing. I mean,

1024
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: you beat Cal and you're like, all right, we recruit

1025
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: the same kids, like the same coaches coaching those teams.

1026
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: It felt nothing this year.

1027
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or you know, you look back on games that

1028
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: Cal beat against Oregon, and it always feels good to

1029
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: be a team that like broke your heart a program

1030
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: that broke your heart way back when with whoever, with

1031
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: Javid Best, And yeah, it's just a different feeling. And

1032
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: it's also weird that Oregon doesn't play all three of

1033
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 2: the West Coast teams every season, like they didn't play

1034
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 2: USC last year. That would at least make things feel

1035
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: a little bit more normal that Oregon play you know,

1036
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 2: all all of the West Coast teams play each other

1037
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: every year. But I don't know, maybe that sort of

1038
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: defeats the purpose of.

1039
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: I just hope we can compete with USC this year.

1040
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: We've it's been fingers crossed, been hard to beat.

1041
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: It's always just around the corner.

1042
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: They're close. I mean, you know, we've they've only been

1043
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: us twice since Pete Carroll left.

1044
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: That was two thousand and nine season, and he didn't

1045
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: beat Oregon his final year either that was a Massoli.

1046
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I hope we compete with them.

1047
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: I hope it's close.

1048
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: You always have to, you always have to, all right,

1049
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz. Where can people people people fend you? Where

1050
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: can people find you? As you talk about football.

1051
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz, Jeff, with the g that works out well

1052
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: for you, you can do that. So yeah, it should be uh,

1053
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: you know, we're I saw I saw my first collegeaball

1054
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: win total uh tweet the other day. So and today,

1055
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: by the way, Bill Bill C put out Churney production numbers. Yeah,

1056
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: we're starting to get like, you know, the Jesus fall

1057
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: a little bit. 're Chrey production to me, I used

1058
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: to love using that to handicap a season. I almost

1059
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: transfer port all. There's nothing you can you can fade.

1060
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: You can fade the teams at the bottom. Air Force

1061
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: last year was a heavy fade for seven weeks because

1062
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: they were terrible, but because they were returning no one.

1063
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: That feels like you can fade the bottom of the

1064
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: of that of that list.

1065
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: Florida and it takes a while to catch up. Yeah,

1066
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: for Vegas catch.

1067
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: Up, Like Florida is going to be better this year

1068
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: because they're just going to be better. They have older

1069
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: players that have played a little bit. They just won't

1070
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: have the schedules. Not it's not because their retre production

1071
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: to me is like that grand I mean if you

1072
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: were churn production if not good, who cares? Oklahomos stay

1073
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 1: las year. We turned to a lot of bad players,

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Speaker 1: like congratulations on returning production. They have to be good

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Speaker 1: players that return to better

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Speaker 2: Who knew afterward, thank you very much for your time

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Speaker 2: and uh dash