WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Free Agency Updates 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:07.360 He's Talking Cowboys rereading live from the Dallas Cowboys World 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:17.560 headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:22.840 Bryan brought us, Rob Phillips, and Taylor Starn. Welcome everybody 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:28.120 to Talking Tuesday inside the SWBC Mortgage Studio. Of course, 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:32.800 it is officially free agency season, and the Cowboys fans 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.199 are up in arms as they have been for the 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.440 past few years. But not to worry, Not to worry. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.000 I'm sure you guys feel pretty good seeing that DeMarcus 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.760 Lawrence is staying here, but I don't think they feel 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.600 very good seeing Anthony Hitchins go away to the Chiefs. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.560 A surprising team as we all kind of thought maybe 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.200 the Colts or something like that. But were you guys 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:56.960 necessarily surprised by the number nine million a year? I 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.240 don't think we talk nine million during the season, but 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.200 I think we all kind of had a feeling it 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.680 would be out of the Cowboys range. Nine is a 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.319 lot good for him. Yeah, the number I was hearing 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:11.200 for linebackers was between eight and ten. Seriously, so you 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:15.600 know it. I'm with you, though, Tay. The team surprised 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.479 me because we talked about the Colts as being the 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:22.399 team with their third most cap space and then the 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.680 Matti even Fluce moving over as the DC. But yeah, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.800 Kansas City jumped in there and made him a good 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.240 offer and he's moved on on to the Chiefs. So 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.319 good for him. Played well for the Cowboys. I'd like 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:39.280 to see how it structured the nine million a year average. Yeah, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.280 I was figuring around five or six. Really, that's kind 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.160 of what we talked, yeah, during the season, but again, 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.120 you never know with the market. It flipped for Terrence 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.520 Williams last year. Well, you feel like we thought it 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.360 would be for receivers last year. So if you're going 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.800 to offer Sammy Watkins three years at forty eight million 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:00.520 with thirty million guaranteed, it's this is third team for 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:04.760 thirty nine catches in five hundred ninety three yards offensive 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:09.200 genius working with him too, right, Yeah, rams, uh boy, 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.680 we're sounding like we're really positive about Sammy Watkins. I'll 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.600 tell you what, this crew right here sounds like made 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:18.840 to run. It's Sammy Watkins. Yeah, Jaw coached him. Yeah 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.160 in Indianapolis, Buffalo Buffalo excuse, Yeah, I had to say this, 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:26.040 But if I'm Dez Brian I ain't taking a pay cut. Oh, 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:31.360 turn tables, turn the tables. Based on who Alan Robinson 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.799 and Sammy watfering deals that are going on? Rap Absolutely, 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.960 Alan Robinson's getting that kind of money three years, forty 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.880 two million, and he's coming off a torn acl sure, 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.400 so they're betting that he's going to return to what 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.200 he did in like twenty fifteen. Yeah, well this is 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.360 twenty eighteen exactly. But this is what we talk about 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.920 with free agency, right every Oh no, there's no question 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.520 guys are gonna make It's no question more than they 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:02.000 probably should, or at least what they've shown potential to make, 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.160 at least in the first week. Does Bryant's contract looks 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.080 like a deal a bargain now compared to what some 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.680 of these other guys have gotten. That's how we're just 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.840 going to continue to get though. It's going to continue 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.119 to do. Oh no, I mean seriously, though, you mean, 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.200 we've I've written the roller coaster on this one. I 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:22.519 could speak for myself. No, they're not going to reduce him. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.760 Maybe they're going to reduce him. Hell no, they're not 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.400 going to reduce that. You know. That's I've kind of 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.560 gone the various ways when I've seen how this free 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.560 agency is opened, you know, when when we're talking about 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.880 players that are not at the level of Dez Bryant 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:43.840 making massive amounts of money. No, I'm not, I'm not 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.760 going there. But his cap figure this year is sixteen 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.600 and a half million and his salary I thinks twelve 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.400 and a half. Is that correct? Yeah, yeah, it's kind 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.440 of right in line with what it's actually like he said, 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.760 it's less than what is being thrown around today. And 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.960 his dead money's eight yeah, which you keep harping on 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.680 that one because you're that's important. Yeah, that's important. Dan. 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.280 Everybody just saying, Okay, we saved this, Yeah, but then 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:14.520 you got to spend eight million for nothing? Yeah for nothing? Yeah, 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:18.159 that's true. Where do you come out ahead, because now 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.919 you saved basically between the dead money and in his 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.080 in his base salary, you're you're saving like four or 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.880 five million. It does You've got to find a number 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.640 one wide receiver because that guy ain't on the team. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.159 And you've also got nine million just sitting there for 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.839 Tony Romo. Yeah not here this year as well. Yeah, 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:38.920 you're up to fourteen million of the dead money after 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.080 what happened with Ben Samowa. That costs you a million dollars? Yeah, 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.520 Ben Samowa, that move on Thursday, right, you know they 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.560 released actually fifteen million dead that's but you know that's 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.159 if you look at US thirteen nine one exactly. Yeah, 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.680 that one tad does create cap room, and yet there 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:57.320 is some dead money. But I think you look at 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:01.120 Taco and say next year, no filling that The bigger 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.039 The bigger one is the Dez Bryant one. Now to me, yeah, 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.560 I mean if I don't know how you could go 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.480 and look at him and say, okay, we want you 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.960 to yeah, after what these deals have been mate, No, no, yeah, 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.480 I mean if i'm his guys, I'm like, okay, let 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.560 me go. Then you know who I guarantee you there'll 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.719 be a team out there. They'll take a run at him. Yeah, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.479 maybe a couple. It's so funny because sitting here last week, 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.640 you know, there were a lot of people on social 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.520 media saying, oh, they can't let Dees go. He's Dez 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:32.080 Bryant of the Dallas Cowboys, guys, And look around the league. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:36.120 Richard Sherman is Richard Sherman of the Seattle Seahawks. He 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.000 is now a San Francisco forty nine er, maybe the 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:42.160 greatest happens, maybe the greatest player in Seahawks history, or 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:47.400 at least the most recognizable in team history. And he's gone. Yeah, 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:52.360 that's what happens. Case keenum team coming off to achilles 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:57.839 tendon surgeries. One of them was a preventive right and 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:02.680 one was to repair right. So and I looked at 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:07.360 his contract, all incentive based, all incentive based. It is 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.000 his own deal too. Yeah, it's taking a beating for that, 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.720 and it it it is. I mean, the majority of 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:18.640 that contract is all him playing ninety percent of the snaps, 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.040 making the Pro Bowl, making the All Pro team. Sure 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.400 he's betting on himself. Yea, yeah, there's no doubt. He 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.360 even said that. He even said, you know, because Joe 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.320 Thomas kind of questioned him who the tackle, the very 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.000 talented tackle from Cleveland, like this is why you don't 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.000 negotiate your own deals, and you know, and and he 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.960 was very, you know, very you know, harsh on what 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.560 he was saying. And you know, the corner came back 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.040 and said, wait a minute, it's my deal. You know, 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:47.880 this is why I'm betting on myself. And this is 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.159 how I wanted to do it. Yeah. So yeah, but 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:54.159 when you bet on yourself, your ego takes over the 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.760 one guy that bet on himself. That one was at 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:00.120 Joe Flacco. He won a super Bowl betting on himself. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.040 He won the super Bowl and then what happened. The 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.240 Ravens paid him over one hundred million. No, but I 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.599 meant betting on yourself, negotiating your own I'm sorry. Yeah, 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.240 you know, think about it how we all would react 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.080 if we had to go in and say, okay, I 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:17.000 want to raise and get emotional and you don't negotiate, well, right, 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.120 and then you say, okay, I'll show you. Yeah, well, okay, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.080 have at it. The one guy am happy that he 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.960 finally did show him because his team refused to show 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.960 any support in him. Kirk Cousins, who had been on 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.520 the tag for the past two seasons with the Redskins, 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.240 even though he had been productive for them, he now 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.720 has a three year contract. Well he doesn't have it. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:42.720 Expected to sign okay, a three year contract with the Vikings. Yes, guys, 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.840 the terminology or free agency. Expected to sign agreed to term? Yeah, 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.720 likely too. You gotta wait till Wednesday to announce you 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.720 gotta wait to guaranteed. Yeah, hey, you know what if 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.400 he goes there, they're the favorite in the NFC my opinion, 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.760 because they've got arguably the best defense in the league. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.320 I'm a I'm a cousin. I've been a fan of 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.560 his game, watching from a Cowboys perspective as an opponent. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.560 You know, whoever a running game there too, He's got 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.840 a running game. They've got they've got all the receivers. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.320 You've got a complete football team. Yeah. Yeah, and they 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:15.960 let Case Keenum not officially expected to go to the Broncos. 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.960 So so there's another team. It seems like you're they're 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.239 they're hunting. They were hunting a quarterback. They're still hunting 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.440 a quarterback. Case Keenum. Is he really the answer? What 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.560 will they do at four? Boy, there's gonna be a 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.800 lot of activity coming up at the top of that board. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.640 It's not going to be a Jets are desperate. Jets, 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.800 Jets are desperate. Buffalo is lining themselves up for one. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.080 I mean, there's gonna be a lot of stuff happening. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.800 Who's gonna bail first the Giants? Giants only have five picks, 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.960 so be interesting to see who bails first. Between them 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:45.960 and the Colts and what these teams are doing a 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.640 lot of them are. They're not sinking their teeth into 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.840 these quarterbacks they're getting now cousins, I'm sure they are. Yeah, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.480 but Denver Keenam, you're always gonna say, uh, can I 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.720 do better? Oh, they're thinking about it right now. At 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.880 for Cleveland, oh can I do better? And you're always 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.960 asking that question, and then the draft comes up, it's like, well, 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.120 do I go, I go get this guy. I think 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.960 Cleveland's creating a situation where they've got a bridge player. 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.040 They've got Tyrod Taylor, veteran guy, and doesn't preclude them 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.200 from spending a top pick on a quarterback. But yeah, 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.720 two of them. Yeah, actually top five have to be 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.520 careful though how far they fall if they if they 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.719 think they're going to get a quarterback at four, that 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.920 maybe get their quarterback at four. That might be another discussion. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.120 That's fair Draft show. Sorry about that, No, it's I 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.280 mean it does affect it. You know, we are talking 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.600 earlier today about this free agency strategy and you brought 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.680 up Taco well their free agency strategy. Of course, the 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.120 bringing back to Marcus, but they went after Taco a 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:45.640 development type guy. Same with Jalen Smith. Yes, you know, 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.040 and you just let a fourth round pick go in 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:52.480 Anthony Hitchens, right, it affects everything they're about building through 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.559 the draft. First by Mickey covered this team when we 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:00.840 were terrible in not only signing free a spending too 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.080 much money on free agents. We were in cap trouble 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.640 because of things that happened in the early nineties with 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.800 Super Bowl teams, and rightfully so didn't have a really 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.880 good understanding. We had a quarterback that was you know, 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.200 and all these things happening. But you know, I've seen 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.760 this now come full circle. I've seen it go from 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:22.960 Cowboy fans completely. I rate at the front office for 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.520 spending money and not making it work and not drafting 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:29.200 worth of dam too. Now they draft well, but they 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.719 don't spend any money in free agency, you know. I mean, 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.400 I've seen it go both ways now, and I agree 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.320 with people. I think there's ways to supplem if if 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.400 they had found a way to hit on some of 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.280 the bottom feeding guys, you know that that bottom guys 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.439 that they worked on, then I think things would be 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.000 a little bit different for them. Because they do draft well, 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.320 that's their strength. One of the strengths they have is 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.320 their ability to draft, and you know, people have to 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.280 be patient about that, you know. I mean again, you 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.840 have to be disciplined to do what they're doing. They 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:02.760 have to be disciplined. And I said this on our 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.200 on our round table, I say, I would love to 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.959 see somebody outside sitting at chair and think about, my god, 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.240 we got to do That's not what we do here. 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.840 That's not what in free in in front offices, you 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.600 don't sit there and just react to every little thing 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.559 that happens. You. You have a plan, you work through 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.400 your plan, and you stay disciplined to your plan. I 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.440 think there's two things that fans are looking at and 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:31.199 they're upset with right now. Eagles, Eagles winning the super Bow. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.480 They saw Eagles go out despite being over the cap 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.960 by a lot, several million dollars trading for Michael Bennett 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.839 that I felt. I think that put Cowboys Nation into 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:44.280 a deep depression because it's like they're still being aggressive. Okay, fine, 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.040 but they're still fifteen million bucks over the cap and 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:48.880 they're probably gonna have to let guys go. Yeah, they 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.920 have to. But they did something with Lane Johnson to 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.720 tackle today, to free up somebody, but they still got tomorrow. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.720 They're gonna have to do something. They're gonna there's some 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.839 guys are gonna go on the street. Now they're gonna 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.080 lose guys on their defensive line. They're they're gonna lose 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.160 their line, Bradham, They're gonna lose. Yeah, they're gonna lose 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:07.680 some guys. They're death throwing tight end as leaving. See 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.520 this today, Burton. This is where again, if fans were 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.640 just were able to sit in that chair in that 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:19.320 room and understand what it takes to do and everybody. Again, 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.640 I'm not gonna sit there and lose my mind over this. 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:26.760 The minute they stopped drafting all pro players, then then 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.360 I'll get Then I'll get concerned. That's why I asked 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.880 Stephen Jones a question about at the combine, about about hey, 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.040 you had some cap you have cap hits on guys 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.400 that are no longer here, and he's like, hey, we've 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.480 got to fix that. We've got to figure that out. 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.080 That is what has me more concerned than And like 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:48.080 I say, I was part of an organization that spent 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.360 money on free agencies, free agency, and we were god awful. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.000 If you have money to spend in free agency, typically 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.800 you're not very good because you don't have enough good 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.680 players of your own that you've resigned to big deals. Yes, 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.160 and so you're trying to you have money to burn. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.920 They are a team, So that's I will say one 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.600 other thing I was gonna say that fans, and we 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.080 got a mail back question about this today is why 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.760 can't they do more than spend the bottom barrel? Why 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.439 can't they go why not get one guy six million dollars? Yeah, 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.280 as opposed to a bunch of two million guys. And 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.200 I think there's some validity to that. But like you 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.840 just said, hey, they were, they were on board maybe 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.679 making a run at Sammy Watkins. I don't think they're 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.480 opposed to doing that. No, they if they really, if 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.439 they believe in the player yet, make a reasonable run, right, 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:33.120 because if you make a mistake on thirty million, guaranteed, 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.920 oh the fires are gonna go off. See. This is 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:40.199 the problem that we have here is that from now 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.640 all we hear, we're seeing all these signings and all this, 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.960 and this is then it's going to turn in in 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.560 two three years from now. It's wow, why they had 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.440 that guy? Boy? That was a mistake. Well that, you know, 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.640 give Jacksonville some credit. They signed Klais Campbell. It worked 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.520 out for him. That was one of the good ones 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.200 that worked out for their team. They signed a Booyer 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.360 the corner that worked out for I mean, there's a 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.559 lot of teams that are that are looking at their 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.559 signings right now and they're saying, man, we should got 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.319 rid of that guy. Boy, I was a mistake. So 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.480 that was I guarantee you. They're sitting there in New 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.679 York right now wondering about Olivier Vernon. I guarantee you 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.120 they mentioned that one earlier. That's just a monster deal 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:22.040 Olivia Vernon at JPP there, They've got forty million dollars 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:26.120 tied up in two players. Could imagine think about that? 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.040 That minds me what we had happened to us in 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.080 the in the in the nineties there where we were 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.120 having an early two thousands where we're having to deal 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.000 with that. And I'm not making excuses, but I'm seeing 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:40.000 you need. Drafting is important. It's important. It's a great 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.840 way to build your football team. And I get it, folks, 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.480 I get it. You have to spend it free. Why 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.000 not do both? I get it, But You know what, though, 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:50.680 if you want to look at the Cowboys have had 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.400 a pretty good year free agency if you count him. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:57.320 If the Marcus Lords got to the free agent market, 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.520 he would be one of the top players signed in 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:01.720 this draft. He'd be on the board right, it would 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.160 be just be reading it to sign. It would be 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:05.720 just like one of these quarters. It would be just 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.480 like one of these quarterbacks. If Zack Martin were to 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.440 hit the thing. You think that guarding from Carolina that 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.760 the Jacksonville sign is better than Zack Martin. Hell no 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.240 he's not. But he just signed a thirteen million dollar 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.480 year deal. But that's but I totally agree with you. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.960 But from the fans perspective, they look at it and say, well, 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.280 that's not new blood, that's not we've we know about 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.840 those guys. What else you got for me? Basically that's 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.120 the faith. Would you rather lose him? No, absolutely not so, 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.960 because if he's out there, he's signed in a five year, 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.760 one hundred million dollars deal. Your three guys, you're three 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:41.920 guys that potentially could have been for a free and 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.640 think about that. I mean, Hitchen's just got nine million dollars. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.920 Mickey just told you I'm thinking more between five and 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.400 six on hitch, almost double that. But when you have 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:53.760 money to spend, yeah, what do we do? What do 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.360 we all do? We? All? Right, we paid more than 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.720 we you know, I want that house? Yeah, Okay, they're 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.560 asked four hundred thousand. Yeah, well I can only afford 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.200 three fifty. I don't care. I want it. I pay 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:10.560 four hundred. Yeah. And that's what happens in free agency. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:14.840 When you have the available money, you can't you can 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:19.680 only create so much money. Yeah, and you can't have everything. 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.640 So they got to Marcus Lawrence. Now their next deal 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.960 is can they hang on to David Irving? Yeah, because 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.840 with the money that's going around, sure, two point nine 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:35.440 on a second round qualifying offer, somebody's gonna give him something. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.120 If that's what he gets. They've got to make a 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.840 decision by Wednesday, and right we're thinking probably the second 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.720 round tender for him. But think about this. I was 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:47.920 just daydreaming today. So what if some team tells David Irving, 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.080 I'm gonna give you a two year, seven point five 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.640 million dollar deal, and I'm going to guarantee you that 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.120 first base salary, and I'm going to give you a 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.240 million dollars up front to get him to three million, right, 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.480 and then next year your base salaries three million, and 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.959 I'll give you five hundred thousand roster bonus. What do 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.040 you think he would do? He's gone, he's gone. It's 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:12.600 kind of what they did with Mayoa here, right to 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.360 get him from ok Yeah, gave him a three year, 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.320 eight million dollars, but they didn't have to give up 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:20.000 a second round draft choice? Yeah? Right now? Will somebody 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.040 say that second round draft choice is worth that contract? 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:27.280 But just think from David Irving standpoint, he's made base 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.800 salary now for three years, two and a half, two 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:32.879 and three quarters by a time he got off the 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:36.720 practice squad, right, right, so he probably made four fifty 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.720 five something six He hadn't even made two million dollars 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.479 in this league. If somebody tells him, here's a million 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:49.119 dollars signing bonus, sure he's gone. Yeah, So would you 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.880 match it? Yeah? And I know what the hesitation here 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:58.200 is is, Okay, he's had some problems. Do I trust him? Yeah? 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.680 Do I trust him for two years for a team 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.960 that likes to draft second round pick? That then would 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:08.000 probably look pretty tidy, you know, with nineteen whatever that 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.840 pick would be pick fifty. He's a dynamic talent though, 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:13.840 Oh sure he is. He is. Sure he is on 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.520 the field, Sure he is. But the thing about it 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.840 is can you get him to the field? Yeah? Yeah, 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:20.840 And I don't know if other teams will look at 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.359 it that because they don't have the intimate knowledge that 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:27.359 Jiffy he was more consistent overall. You would have tendered 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.160 him a one with the attent of trying to sign 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.439 him like Mickey did down the road and sign him 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.680 to a long term deal because think about some of 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:39.439 their restrictive free agents. Sure they wanted like well, I 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:43.120 mean it does, it's not comparative, but like Keith Smith, sure, 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.280 are you going to sign him to the minimum offer 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:53.199 which is one point nine? I think no, You're going 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:56.719 to offer him a two year deal for two million 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.200 dollars or something? Sure, and give him two hundred and 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.520 fifty in his pie. Yeah, And he probably would say, Okay, 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.040 that's good. 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