1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: He's Talking Cowboys rereading live from the Dallas Cowboys World 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Bryan brought us, Rob Phillips, and Taylor Starn. Welcome everybody 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: to Talking Tuesday inside the SWBC Mortgage Studio. Of course, 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: it is officially free agency season, and the Cowboys fans 6 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: are up in arms as they have been for the 7 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: past few years. But not to worry, Not to worry. 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys feel pretty good seeing that DeMarcus 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Lawrence is staying here, but I don't think they feel 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: very good seeing Anthony Hitchins go away to the Chiefs. 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: A surprising team as we all kind of thought maybe 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: the Colts or something like that. But were you guys 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: necessarily surprised by the number nine million a year? I 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: don't think we talk nine million during the season, but 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: I think we all kind of had a feeling it 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: would be out of the Cowboys range. Nine is a 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: lot good for him. Yeah, the number I was hearing 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: for linebackers was between eight and ten. Seriously, so you 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: know it. I'm with you, though, Tay. The team surprised 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: me because we talked about the Colts as being the 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: team with their third most cap space and then the 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: Matti even Fluce moving over as the DC. But yeah, 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City jumped in there and made him a good 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: offer and he's moved on on to the Chiefs. So 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: good for him. Played well for the Cowboys. I'd like 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: to see how it structured the nine million a year average. Yeah, 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: I was figuring around five or six. Really, that's kind 28 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: of what we talked, yeah, during the season, but again, 29 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: you never know with the market. It flipped for Terrence 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Williams last year. Well, you feel like we thought it 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: would be for receivers last year. So if you're going 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: to offer Sammy Watkins three years at forty eight million 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: with thirty million guaranteed, it's this is third team for 34 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: thirty nine catches in five hundred ninety three yards offensive 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: genius working with him too, right, Yeah, rams, uh boy, 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: we're sounding like we're really positive about Sammy Watkins. I'll 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: tell you what, this crew right here sounds like made 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: to run. It's Sammy Watkins. Yeah, Jaw coached him. Yeah 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, Buffalo Buffalo excuse, Yeah, I had to say this, 40 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: But if I'm Dez Brian I ain't taking a pay cut. Oh, 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: turn tables, turn the tables. Based on who Alan Robinson 42 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: and Sammy watfering deals that are going on? Rap Absolutely, 43 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson's getting that kind of money three years, forty 44 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: two million, and he's coming off a torn acl sure, 45 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: so they're betting that he's going to return to what 46 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: he did in like twenty fifteen. Yeah, well this is 47 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen exactly. But this is what we talk about 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: with free agency, right every Oh no, there's no question 49 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: guys are gonna make It's no question more than they 50 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: probably should, or at least what they've shown potential to make, 51 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: at least in the first week. Does Bryant's contract looks 52 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: like a deal a bargain now compared to what some 53 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: of these other guys have gotten. That's how we're just 54 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: going to continue to get though. It's going to continue 55 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: to do. Oh no, I mean seriously, though, you mean, 56 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: we've I've written the roller coaster on this one. I 57 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: could speak for myself. No, they're not going to reduce him. 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Maybe they're going to reduce him. Hell no, they're not 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: going to reduce that. You know. That's I've kind of 60 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: gone the various ways when I've seen how this free 61 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: agency is opened, you know, when when we're talking about 62 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: players that are not at the level of Dez Bryant 63 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: making massive amounts of money. No, I'm not, I'm not 64 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: going there. But his cap figure this year is sixteen 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: and a half million and his salary I thinks twelve 66 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: and a half. Is that correct? Yeah, yeah, it's kind 67 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: of right in line with what it's actually like he said, 68 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: it's less than what is being thrown around today. And 69 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: his dead money's eight yeah, which you keep harping on 70 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: that one because you're that's important. Yeah, that's important. Dan. 71 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Everybody just saying, Okay, we saved this, Yeah, but then 72 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: you got to spend eight million for nothing? Yeah for nothing? Yeah, 73 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: that's true. Where do you come out ahead, because now 74 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: you saved basically between the dead money and in his 75 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: in his base salary, you're you're saving like four or 76 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: five million. It does You've got to find a number 77 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: one wide receiver because that guy ain't on the team. 78 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: And you've also got nine million just sitting there for 79 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: Tony Romo. Yeah not here this year as well. Yeah, 80 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: you're up to fourteen million of the dead money after 81 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: what happened with Ben Samowa. That costs you a million dollars? Yeah, 82 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: Ben Samowa, that move on Thursday, right, you know they 83 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: released actually fifteen million dead that's but you know that's 84 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: if you look at US thirteen nine one exactly. Yeah, 85 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: that one tad does create cap room, and yet there 86 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: is some dead money. But I think you look at 87 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: Taco and say next year, no filling that The bigger 88 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: The bigger one is the Dez Bryant one. Now to me, yeah, 89 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean if I don't know how you could go 90 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: and look at him and say, okay, we want you 91 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: to yeah, after what these deals have been mate, No, no, yeah, 92 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: I mean if i'm his guys, I'm like, okay, let 93 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: me go. Then you know who I guarantee you there'll 94 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: be a team out there. They'll take a run at him. Yeah, 95 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: maybe a couple. It's so funny because sitting here last week, 96 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, there were a lot of people on social 97 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: media saying, oh, they can't let Dees go. He's Dez 98 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: Bryant of the Dallas Cowboys, guys, And look around the league. 99 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman is Richard Sherman of the Seattle Seahawks. He 100 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: is now a San Francisco forty nine er, maybe the 101 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: greatest happens, maybe the greatest player in Seahawks history, or 102 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: at least the most recognizable in team history. And he's gone. Yeah, 103 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: that's what happens. Case keenum team coming off to achilles 104 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: tendon surgeries. One of them was a preventive right and 105 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: one was to repair right. So and I looked at 106 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: his contract, all incentive based, all incentive based. It is 107 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: his own deal too. Yeah, it's taking a beating for that, 108 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: and it it it is. I mean, the majority of 109 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: that contract is all him playing ninety percent of the snaps, 110 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: making the Pro Bowl, making the All Pro team. Sure 111 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: he's betting on himself. Yea, yeah, there's no doubt. He 112 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: even said that. He even said, you know, because Joe 113 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: Thomas kind of questioned him who the tackle, the very 114 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: talented tackle from Cleveland, like this is why you don't 115 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: negotiate your own deals, and you know, and and he 116 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: was very, you know, very you know, harsh on what 117 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: he was saying. And you know, the corner came back 118 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: and said, wait a minute, it's my deal. You know, 119 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: this is why I'm betting on myself. And this is 120 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: how I wanted to do it. Yeah. So yeah, but 121 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: when you bet on yourself, your ego takes over the 122 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: one guy that bet on himself. That one was at 123 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. He won a super Bowl betting on himself. 124 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: He won the super Bowl and then what happened. The 125 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Ravens paid him over one hundred million. No, but I 126 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: meant betting on yourself, negotiating your own I'm sorry. Yeah, 127 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, think about it how we all would react 128 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: if we had to go in and say, okay, I 129 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: want to raise and get emotional and you don't negotiate, well, right, 130 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: and then you say, okay, I'll show you. Yeah, well, okay, 131 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: have at it. The one guy am happy that he 132 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: finally did show him because his team refused to show 133 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: any support in him. Kirk Cousins, who had been on 134 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: the tag for the past two seasons with the Redskins, 135 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: even though he had been productive for them, he now 136 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: has a three year contract. Well he doesn't have it. 137 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: Expected to sign okay, a three year contract with the Vikings. Yes, guys, 138 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: the terminology or free agency. Expected to sign agreed to term? Yeah, 139 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: likely too. You gotta wait till Wednesday to announce you 140 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: gotta wait to guaranteed. Yeah, hey, you know what if 141 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: he goes there, they're the favorite in the NFC my opinion, 142 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: because they've got arguably the best defense in the league. 143 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a cousin. I've been a fan of 144 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: his game, watching from a Cowboys perspective as an opponent. 145 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: You know, whoever a running game there too, He's got 146 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: a running game. They've got they've got all the receivers. 147 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: You've got a complete football team. Yeah. Yeah, and they 148 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: let Case Keenum not officially expected to go to the Broncos. 149 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: So so there's another team. It seems like you're they're 150 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 1: they're hunting. They were hunting a quarterback. They're still hunting 151 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Case Keenum. Is he really the answer? What 152 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: will they do at four? Boy, there's gonna be a 153 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: lot of activity coming up at the top of that board. 154 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: It's not going to be a Jets are desperate. Jets, 155 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: Jets are desperate. Buffalo is lining themselves up for one. 156 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's gonna be a lot of stuff happening. 157 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: Who's gonna bail first the Giants? Giants only have five picks, 158 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: so be interesting to see who bails first. Between them 159 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: and the Colts and what these teams are doing a 160 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: lot of them are. They're not sinking their teeth into 161 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks they're getting now cousins, I'm sure they are. Yeah, 162 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: but Denver Keenam, you're always gonna say, uh, can I 163 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: do better? Oh, they're thinking about it right now. At 164 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: for Cleveland, oh can I do better? And you're always 165 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: asking that question, and then the draft comes up, it's like, well, 166 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: do I go, I go get this guy. I think 167 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland's creating a situation where they've got a bridge player. 168 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: They've got Tyrod Taylor, veteran guy, and doesn't preclude them 169 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: from spending a top pick on a quarterback. But yeah, 170 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: two of them. Yeah, actually top five have to be 171 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: careful though how far they fall if they if they 172 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: think they're going to get a quarterback at four, that 173 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: maybe get their quarterback at four. That might be another discussion. 174 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: That's fair Draft show. Sorry about that, No, it's I 175 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: mean it does affect it. You know, we are talking 176 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: earlier today about this free agency strategy and you brought 177 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: up Taco well their free agency strategy. Of course, the 178 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: bringing back to Marcus, but they went after Taco a 179 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: development type guy. Same with Jalen Smith. Yes, you know, 180 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: and you just let a fourth round pick go in 181 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchens, right, it affects everything they're about building through 182 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: the draft. First by Mickey covered this team when we 183 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: were terrible in not only signing free a spending too 184 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: much money on free agents. We were in cap trouble 185 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: because of things that happened in the early nineties with 186 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl teams, and rightfully so didn't have a really 187 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: good understanding. We had a quarterback that was you know, 188 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: and all these things happening. But you know, I've seen 189 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: this now come full circle. I've seen it go from 190 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: Cowboy fans completely. I rate at the front office for 191 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: spending money and not making it work and not drafting 192 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: worth of dam too. Now they draft well, but they 193 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: don't spend any money in free agency, you know. I mean, 194 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: I've seen it go both ways now, and I agree 195 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: with people. I think there's ways to supplem if if 196 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: they had found a way to hit on some of 197 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: the bottom feeding guys, you know that that bottom guys 198 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: that they worked on, then I think things would be 199 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: a little bit different for them. Because they do draft well, 200 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: that's their strength. One of the strengths they have is 201 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: their ability to draft, and you know, people have to 202 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: be patient about that, you know. I mean again, you 203 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: have to be disciplined to do what they're doing. They 204 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: have to be disciplined. And I said this on our 205 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: on our round table, I say, I would love to 206 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: see somebody outside sitting at chair and think about, my god, 207 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: we got to do That's not what we do here. 208 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: That's not what in free in in front offices, you 209 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: don't sit there and just react to every little thing 210 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: that happens. You. You have a plan, you work through 211 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: your plan, and you stay disciplined to your plan. I 212 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: think there's two things that fans are looking at and 213 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: they're upset with right now. Eagles, Eagles winning the super Bow. 214 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: They saw Eagles go out despite being over the cap 215 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: by a lot, several million dollars trading for Michael Bennett 216 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: that I felt. I think that put Cowboys Nation into 217 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: a deep depression because it's like they're still being aggressive. Okay, fine, 218 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: but they're still fifteen million bucks over the cap and 219 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: they're probably gonna have to let guys go. Yeah, they 220 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: have to. But they did something with Lane Johnson to 221 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: tackle today, to free up somebody, but they still got tomorrow. 222 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to do something. They're gonna there's some 223 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: guys are gonna go on the street. Now they're gonna 224 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: lose guys on their defensive line. They're they're gonna lose 225 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: their line, Bradham, They're gonna lose. Yeah, they're gonna lose 226 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: some guys. They're death throwing tight end as leaving. See 227 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: this today, Burton. This is where again, if fans were 228 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: just were able to sit in that chair in that 229 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: room and understand what it takes to do and everybody. Again, 230 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit there and lose my mind over this. 231 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: The minute they stopped drafting all pro players, then then 232 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: I'll get Then I'll get concerned. That's why I asked 233 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones a question about at the combine, about about hey, 234 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: you had some cap you have cap hits on guys 235 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: that are no longer here, and he's like, hey, we've 236 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: got to fix that. We've got to figure that out. 237 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: That is what has me more concerned than And like 238 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: I say, I was part of an organization that spent 239 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: money on free agencies, free agency, and we were god awful. 240 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: If you have money to spend in free agency, typically 241 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: you're not very good because you don't have enough good 242 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: players of your own that you've resigned to big deals. Yes, 243 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: and so you're trying to you have money to burn. 244 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: They are a team, So that's I will say one 245 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: other thing I was gonna say that fans, and we 246 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: got a mail back question about this today is why 247 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: can't they do more than spend the bottom barrel? Why 248 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: can't they go why not get one guy six million dollars? Yeah, 249 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: as opposed to a bunch of two million guys. And 250 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: I think there's some validity to that. But like you 251 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: just said, hey, they were, they were on board maybe 252 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: making a run at Sammy Watkins. I don't think they're 253 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: opposed to doing that. No, they if they really, if 254 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: they believe in the player yet, make a reasonable run, right, 255 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: because if you make a mistake on thirty million, guaranteed, 256 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: oh the fires are gonna go off. See. This is 257 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: the problem that we have here is that from now 258 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: all we hear, we're seeing all these signings and all this, 259 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: and this is then it's going to turn in in 260 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: two three years from now. It's wow, why they had 261 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: that guy? Boy? That was a mistake. Well that, you know, 262 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: give Jacksonville some credit. They signed Klais Campbell. It worked 263 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: out for him. That was one of the good ones 264 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: that worked out for their team. They signed a Booyer 265 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: the corner that worked out for I mean, there's a 266 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: lot of teams that are that are looking at their 267 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: signings right now and they're saying, man, we should got 268 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: rid of that guy. Boy, I was a mistake. So 269 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: that was I guarantee you. They're sitting there in New 270 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: York right now wondering about Olivier Vernon. I guarantee you 271 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: they mentioned that one earlier. That's just a monster deal 272 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Olivia Vernon at JPP there, They've got forty million dollars 273 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: tied up in two players. Could imagine think about that? 274 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: That minds me what we had happened to us in 275 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: the in the in the nineties there where we were 276 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: having an early two thousands where we're having to deal 277 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: with that. And I'm not making excuses, but I'm seeing 278 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: you need. Drafting is important. It's important. It's a great 279 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: way to build your football team. And I get it, folks, 280 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: I get it. You have to spend it free. Why 281 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: not do both? I get it, But You know what, though, 282 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: if you want to look at the Cowboys have had 283 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: a pretty good year free agency if you count him. 284 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: If the Marcus Lords got to the free agent market, 285 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: he would be one of the top players signed in 286 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: this draft. He'd be on the board right, it would 287 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: be just be reading it to sign. It would be 288 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: just like one of these quarters. It would be just 289 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: like one of these quarterbacks. If Zack Martin were to 290 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: hit the thing. You think that guarding from Carolina that 291 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville sign is better than Zack Martin. Hell no 292 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: he's not. But he just signed a thirteen million dollar 293 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: year deal. But that's but I totally agree with you. 294 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: But from the fans perspective, they look at it and say, well, 295 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: that's not new blood, that's not we've we know about 296 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: those guys. What else you got for me? Basically that's 297 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: the faith. Would you rather lose him? No, absolutely not so, 298 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: because if he's out there, he's signed in a five year, 299 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars deal. Your three guys, you're three 300 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: guys that potentially could have been for a free and 301 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: think about that. I mean, Hitchen's just got nine million dollars. 302 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: Mickey just told you I'm thinking more between five and 303 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: six on hitch, almost double that. But when you have 304 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: money to spend, yeah, what do we do? What do 305 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: we all do? We? All? Right, we paid more than 306 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: we you know, I want that house? Yeah, Okay, they're 307 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: asked four hundred thousand. Yeah, well I can only afford 308 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: three fifty. I don't care. I want it. I pay 309 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: four hundred. Yeah. And that's what happens in free agency. 310 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: When you have the available money, you can't you can 311 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: only create so much money. Yeah, and you can't have everything. 312 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: So they got to Marcus Lawrence. Now their next deal 313 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: is can they hang on to David Irving? Yeah, because 314 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: with the money that's going around, sure, two point nine 315 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: on a second round qualifying offer, somebody's gonna give him something. 316 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: If that's what he gets. They've got to make a 317 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: decision by Wednesday, and right we're thinking probably the second 318 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: round tender for him. But think about this. I was 319 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: just daydreaming today. So what if some team tells David Irving, 320 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a two year, seven point five 321 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: million dollar deal, and I'm going to guarantee you that 322 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: first base salary, and I'm going to give you a 323 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: million dollars up front to get him to three million, right, 324 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: and then next year your base salaries three million, and 325 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: I'll give you five hundred thousand roster bonus. What do 326 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: you think he would do? He's gone, he's gone. It's 327 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: kind of what they did with Mayoa here, right to 328 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: get him from ok Yeah, gave him a three year, 329 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: eight million dollars, but they didn't have to give up 330 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: a second round draft choice? Yeah? Right now? Will somebody 331 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: say that second round draft choice is worth that contract? 332 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: But just think from David Irving standpoint, he's made base 333 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: salary now for three years, two and a half, two 334 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: and three quarters by a time he got off the 335 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: practice squad, right, right, so he probably made four fifty 336 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: five something six He hadn't even made two million dollars 337 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: in this league. If somebody tells him, here's a million 338 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: dollars signing bonus, sure he's gone. Yeah, So would you 339 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: match it? Yeah? And I know what the hesitation here 340 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: is is, Okay, he's had some problems. Do I trust him? Yeah? 341 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: Do I trust him for two years for a team 342 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: that likes to draft second round pick? That then would 343 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: probably look pretty tidy, you know, with nineteen whatever that 344 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: pick would be pick fifty. He's a dynamic talent though, 345 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: Oh sure he is. He is. Sure he is on 346 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: the field, Sure he is. But the thing about it 347 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: is can you get him to the field? Yeah? Yeah, 348 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know if other teams will look at 349 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: it that because they don't have the intimate knowledge that 350 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: Jiffy he was more consistent overall. You would have tendered 351 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: him a one with the attent of trying to sign 352 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: him like Mickey did down the road and sign him 353 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: to a long term deal because think about some of 354 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: their restrictive free agents. Sure they wanted like well, I 355 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: mean it does, it's not comparative, but like Keith Smith, sure, 356 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: are you going to sign him to the minimum offer 357 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: which is one point nine? I think no, You're going 358 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: to offer him a two year deal for two million 359 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: dollars or something? Sure, and give him two hundred and 360 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: fifty in his pie. Yeah, And he probably would say, Okay, 361 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: that's good. That's a great segue because there are a 362 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: lot of names that you guys might be forgetting out 363 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: there that are free agents. Free agency officially starts three 364 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: pm Central time tomorrow, and we're going to take our 365 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: first break. But We'll get to those names and more 366 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: when we come back. That is next. It can be 367 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: hard to find the right resource for learning about important 368 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: financial matters. 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So if you're watching online or 415 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: if you if you have the Connected Expected, last day, 416 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: the expected, the shape Expected, our new term here, it's 417 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: closing in so you know you can see it with 418 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: our new connected TV app Cowboys Now Tune in to Cowboys. 419 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola. Your beard is also featured on the Blitz, 420 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: which is also on that Should I Should I shave 421 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: on the air? That would be awesome. Oh isn't there 422 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: something with like March where you can do it where 423 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: it's a a cancer initiative? Please tweet me you end 424 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: up growing Thank for that. Baldrics, baldrics not shaving it. Yeah, 425 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: that's your head. Can we shave your head. That would 426 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: not be a good life, Saint Baldrics if we shave 427 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: your head on the air for charity. What if I 428 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: just kept my mustache? Huh No, No, I'm scared of it. 429 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm scared of it. Well, I shaved it on the 430 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: on the air in nineteen ninety. Do we have footage 431 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: of it? We would have probably before and after. We 432 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: didn't actually do it on the Dale Hanson's Sunday Sports special. 433 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: Maybe I can just do it on my Instagram. We 434 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: tried to convince the lady at the hotel we were staying, 435 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: she was the bartender, to do it on the air 436 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: like the Knox remember the Naxiema commercially Yeah, M with 437 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: Joe Montana right, Joe's m Joe Nameth. Yeah, And they 438 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: showed them, won't she She didn't believe us that we'd 439 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: actually do that. She wouldn't do it. Man, Well, before 440 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: we get to more free agency news, we have to 441 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: hear from you guys. I'm sorry we haven't gotten to 442 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: more calls in the offseason. It's just been so crazy 443 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: around here. But we do have Brian from Arizona on 444 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: the line. Brian, just please please don't kill us. We're 445 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: all together in this. How are you doing? We're doing good? 446 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: And I just had a couple of quick comments and 447 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: I want to keep the guys too long for your 448 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: comments positives. First off, I just want to comment and 449 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: say I'm for how the Cowboys are doing teams and 450 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: free agency right now, not spending all that money. The 451 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: last three ad and I was excited about was Brandon 452 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 1: Carr and after the first two years it seemed like 453 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: he could not run anymore. Yeah, because he couldn't carry 454 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: guys across the field at once. He lost just a step. 455 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: He wasn't the player that they've done. So it's all 456 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: about understanding what you're paying for and you don't want 457 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: to end up two years from now cutting the guy 458 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: questioning camp why did I sign that guy? I always 459 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: go back and and I just it's still in my 460 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: head when brought Us was talking about cutting, when all 461 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: those restructures with Tony Romo's contract, and brought Us would 462 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: always say, I wouldn't touch that because I feel like 463 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: if I got to move on, it's gonna hurt me 464 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: down the line. And what happened, it hurt us down 465 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: the line. So when Mickey's preaching you can't just cut 466 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: dead just because of this and that, you know you, 467 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: that's more dead money you're adding on. You're just palinoid, 468 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: and you're palinoid, and then you got to restructure this 469 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: guy just to resign your draft picks. I'm all for 470 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: not being aggressive free and free agency, but I would 471 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: love to see them be a little more aggressive with 472 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: their draft picks. Kim draft picks is not going to 473 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: make this team. So I personally think that about six 474 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: is going to make it. And sure and if if 475 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: you don't mind me saying, I personally believe that if 476 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: Derwin James becomes within striking distance, I believe that's going 477 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: to be their pick. Because right now you're two starting 478 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: safety what it looks like is Cavan Fraser and Jeff 479 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: Heat And Jeff Heat I'll give him credit with his 480 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: duke whereas dude, he broke on a couple of balls. 481 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: He probably had the best ball skills in the secondary 482 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: to past two years as much as we as much 483 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: as we power on it, but I just can't see 484 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: those two guys being the starting safety. So if you 485 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: ask me, I would rather be aggressive and pursue Derwin 486 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: James and the Calvin Ridley. There's a rumor about Corey 487 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: Coleman and the Cowboys possibly being Instersted. I don't know 488 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: how much truth that is, but I would rather pursue 489 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, then to take a Calvin Ridley 490 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: at nineteen. I'm a fan of the parcels and the 491 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: Belichick mode of look at your team down the middle. 492 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: They need depth that running back, they need guards help, 493 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: they need defensive tackle help, linebacker in safety. That is 494 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: where you build your team. That's a lot you're weak 495 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: and if you're in you can argue that they need 496 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: help at every one of the positions that I just mentioned. 497 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: That's why we say, yeah, that's why we say, are 498 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: you sure about death? You sure you want to create 499 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: another big need for yourself. When you just mentioned all 500 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: those positions, how many draft choice made it last year? Five? 501 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: Top three, top three and then uh zabre Woods zaber 502 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: Woods was Noah Brown, right, So that was that was 503 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: two sixes and the three that's five right there. And 504 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: you're a good call, Brian, by the way, it was reasonable. Well, 505 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: he just pointed out a lot of needs. This so 506 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: five five guys made it right when you had room 507 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: and he's right, ten guys ain't gonna make this team. No, 508 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: and and he's you know, within within striking distance. I'm 509 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: liking what he's saying, though, I think you're going to 510 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: have to go up into the maybe into the teams 511 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: to make this happen. Miami to Levin was a place 512 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: we kind of targeted for, you know, either maybe Roquan 513 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: Smith the linebacker or maybe even Derwin James. I like 514 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: the call. I think they are going to be aggressive 515 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: with these. You made the decision in free agency last 516 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: year to let all those guys go so you would 517 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: have compensatory picks. You got compensatory picks. Now take advantage 518 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: of the move up. Move up in rounds if you can. 519 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: If you got a player you like, go get that guy. 520 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: And it goes back to Rob. I know you hate 521 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: to if somehow somebody signs they give you that second 522 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: round pick, that's again more ammunition to move around. Get 523 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: another guy. Maybe stand there and pick a guy, you know, 524 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: maybe a more quality guy. More guys you could get 525 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: in that top one hundred. The better chance you have 526 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: are really really helping your football teach. Chans Jerry about 527 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: those compensatory picks on the bus at the combine. He 528 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: called him a godsend and there's a reason for that 529 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: because you can trade him now and you can move 530 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: around Doc Prescott. So not pretty good. Just stay in there. 531 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: Two most critical evaluations they have to make to me 532 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: is number one, what is Jalen Smith? Is he ready 533 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: for this? True? Because you can't be wrong? Can't be wrong? 534 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: And number two, what is Xavier Woods? That's you want 535 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: him playing safety? Right? Or do you want him playing 536 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: in the slot? That's fair. That's a good point because 537 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: they do have some dbs with some flex to play safety, right. 538 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: I mean Coler just mentioned Heath and Frasier. They have 539 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: some other guys that No, he's right about that. Can 540 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: I ask a question of the panel here, Hey, please 541 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: help me with this too. If you're moving Byron Jones, 542 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: are you moving him to start or are you just 543 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: moving him to be the tight end but cover guy? 544 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: And both? Is he I'm gonna ask you though, is 545 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: he going? Are you taking him out of his starting 546 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: role to play Xavier Woods? Are you moving Byron Jones 547 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: because you're trying to get better at right corner? Because 548 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: of George Lewis, you don't trust Jordan Lewis or do 549 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: you not trust a Woozia. I don't know if they 550 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: trust Anthony Brown. I wonder what's going to happen now 551 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 1: with Christoph Shardon coming in here, you know, and what 552 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: he thinks. That's kind of I'm just asking the question 553 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: because because if, if, why, if you believe in Anthony Brown, right, 554 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: then I'm not moving. I don't think he's a corner. 555 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Anthony Brown. No, Byron Jones, he's played forty 556 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: eight games. We haven't figured that out yet. Think he's 557 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: frustrated too. He would like to sure, he would like 558 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: to know, right, but sure, Yeah, he said he feels 559 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: like he can't go in any offseason knowing where he 560 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: really is. I can't train for it, right See, Christoph 561 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: Shardon has his own thoughts on it, right Nick, and 562 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't like he just got here a month ago. 563 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: He will have he might he might have. He might 564 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: have thought all along when when Byron Jones was coming 565 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: out of Connecticut that Byron Jones was a corner to him. 566 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: He likes the bigger but that corner. Oh, I know 567 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: we did. That's what I'm saying. It's taking forty eight 568 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: games and now we're moving him around again. I think 569 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: the question that's the I'm asking the question is if 570 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: you're moving him, is he going to be your starter? 571 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: That's that's what I want to know. Andrew back, No, 572 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: so you're moving on from him? Yeah, yeah, he wants 573 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: He apparently wants to move on in June. I would 574 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: move on. Yeah. By the way, you get to stay 575 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: here a little longer. Yeah, on the team. I don't 576 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: think there's a rush there. No, that's what I'm saying. 577 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: We're not gonna be We're not gonna sit there and 578 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: let you just, you know, have your way. It sets 579 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: a bad presence. I'd say that right, Press presidents, presidents, 580 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: it sets a bad You can't have players walking into 581 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: the head coach's office or walking into the Will mcclay's 582 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: officer Jerry Jones Stephen Jones goes, you need to let 583 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: me go. You know how long that line would be. 584 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 1: That's all the way to hear. That's here's the thing 585 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: about Orlando. Trust me, you're right. He signed for two 586 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: more years and if you cut it, we talked about 587 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: saving money, you'd only save about a million and a 588 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: half buck. So it's not like letting him go would 589 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: open up all this space to go do something you 590 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: want to do, and it's it's three point eight eight 591 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: million and dead bunny, Yeah, adds up. Yeah, But I 592 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: mean at some point and he sees it too, what's 593 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: his role gonna be here? Well, I don't care what 594 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: he thinks. He signed the contract. I'm not saying you 595 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: gotta cut him. No, I'm saying I'm saying Y's attitude 596 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: about this trap. I mean, the speculation is, do you 597 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: try to get a pick for him? But I would 598 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: love to. Yeah, we has somebody gonna give you. What 599 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: is it you give for? There? Is there any good 600 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: tape of him playing last year thirty one years old? Yeah? 601 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: I think so, I mean is there? Yeah? I mean 602 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: he got banged up down the stretch. Somebody might trade 603 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: for him, as are we piling on here as a 604 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: nickel corner. I got the fan club here and lay 605 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: in the slot. It's not personal. His base salaries only 606 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: three million dollars, so that's that's pretty cheap. If I 607 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: can find me the guy that's going to come in 608 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: and play in the slot. I don't know if there's 609 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: any good tape on this guy. Didn't he have a 610 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: good game against the was he already I'm watually I'm 611 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: watching a good player. Man, he gets the Redskins, he 612 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: had that big return Redskins. He had the big return. Yeah, 613 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: when I think that's when he heard his back. Yeah. 614 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: So that's a good question about the buyer. I mean, 615 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: you might you kind of create a log jam a 616 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: little bit if you move him to corner. Because again, 617 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: like the caller said, what do you do at safety? 618 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: I think I think there you have a lot of 619 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: confidence in a Woozier's potential. Sure, but it's the health thing. 620 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he missed a lot of time yow. But 621 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: when he got back, he was good. His best game 622 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: was starting on the twenty ninth of October last year, 623 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: and then he did decent things against the uh the Chargers. 624 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: Was he on that field? That? Was he on the 625 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: field that gets the Chargers? I think he got injured 626 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: again during that game and then he and then he 627 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: was and he missed the last four games of the year, right, yeah, 628 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: and he was a captain. Right. His last game was 629 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: the last Washington game here on November thirtieth. So he 630 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: saw it in December. I mean he said it, you 631 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: know they're going youth in and so obviously he wants 632 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be a bench guy. I didn't 633 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: realize there was a thing in the NFL called total disability. Yeah, 634 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: and some guys can't apply. And maybe Orlando Skinner things 635 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: he might be able to apply for that. I just again, 636 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: the question I want to know is, why would you 637 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: move Byron Jones if he if the intent is not 638 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: to start him? That's my question. And I don't and 639 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: I have a great answer, and I and I and 640 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: I've been in this thing since nineteen ninety two, and 641 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't have I don't know why. I don't know 642 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: why you would do that? Well, you may could you? Again? 643 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: The guys played forty eight games. He's he's tied him 644 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: and the kid at the Jets, the defensive tackle Williams 645 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: had played at his first round draft class guys, breaking news. 646 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: M Danny Woodhead is expected to be released. You sign 647 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: him for how long? Dylan Smith wants to know Danny Woodhead. 648 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: Danny Woodhead? Did he kind of a verse old back? 649 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: Didn't he kill the Cowboys in the game in San 650 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: Diego one years ago? They couldn't cover him out of 651 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: the backfield. The wheel route poor Bruce Carter. That was 652 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: a while ago. That was like twenty fourteen. Maybe that's 653 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was Bruce Carter. Yeah, it's Bruce Carter. Yeah, 654 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: couldn't cover a wheel route. No draft. They're good play 655 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: of draft running backs in the street. Like you like 656 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: the depth there. Yeah, we're gonna talk about a guy 657 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: today at on our breakdown from Tennessee. That's a I 658 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: think it's a good play. Can I say one more 659 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 1: thing on corner? Why why can't you have Byron start 660 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: it right? And it was he started left? Oh no, 661 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Well, I think that's that might 662 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: be what they're looking at, right, Okay, but what they're 663 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: gonna do it? We kind of like, is it good 664 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: enough to do it? But we like, we liked Jordan. 665 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: We started four games at cornerback. Mackey. You can always 666 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: move him again, you know they've done that like six times. 667 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: But why why cornerback? Huh? Was he that bad at safety? 668 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: He didn't really play. I don't think he played the 669 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: role that he looked like he was gonna play. In 670 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: training camp, he wound up he was really good player 671 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: in training camp. I don't know what the hell happened. 672 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: But the time we landed here and out of Ox 673 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: and Art, he was like MVP of training camp. We 674 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: wrote about him a bunch. I know he wasn't that 675 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: center field guy. Last year he played more to me 676 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: around the box than he did well. Jeff Heath ended 677 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: up playing center field. That's my point. I think maybe 678 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: for that, don't you think then being a box safety? 679 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: I just I find just get forty eight games, we 680 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: haven't figured that out for that guy. That's that's that's 681 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: amazing to me. Whose fault is that? Well? I don't know. 682 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: Maybe he just know I'll fit in anywhere where, you 683 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: know where. If you have somebody coming in and saying 684 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: he's not this to me, you know, then maybe that's 685 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: maybe that's it. Maybe they say, hey, listen, we Chris 686 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: Rorishard comes in and says, I don't think he's a safety. 687 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: I think he's a corner. Maybe that's their way of saying, okay, 688 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: well let's try. You know, I'll tell you what physician 689 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: flexibility I think maybe hurts this team more than it 690 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: helps him. I don't know, how can you say that 691 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 1: with Keith Smith and Rod Smith and guys like that, 692 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: that they've been able to Tyron Crawford. Tyron Crawford, Yeah, 693 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: that's true, and people are looking they ever played him 694 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: at one position? Oh, I think he's a defensive end 695 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: now about David Irving, that's I think he's the defensive 696 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: backle Now he can help guys find a role. Yeah, 697 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: like Keith Smith, sure find a spot in the league. 698 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: Like I feel like he's had more success as a 699 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: fullback than he did well, he wasn't gonna make it. 700 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: I do think. I do think we see position flex 701 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: hurt Chaz Green. Last year they came into a guard 702 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: mill showers. We're looking at him. He's you know, he's 703 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: he's done, all right, Jamil for hanging around. Okay, so 704 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: you moved Byron Jones, who's playing safety. I think you'd have. 705 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: You're not going to use a first round pick on 706 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: a safety. You're not. We're going up to get one. 707 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: You're not. I'm taking you with me, Mick. We're gonna 708 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: go get him at at and T Stadium, Mickey. This guy, 709 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: this guy Florida states pretty good. It's pretty good. I mean, 710 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: I'll sit down with you one day and we watch 711 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: him play. What do you want? You want a linebacker. 712 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: Do you want to guard? No, I don't want to guard. 713 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: You know what? Make the first Let me ask you 714 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: this though, With what they're paying their guards now, shouldn't 715 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 1: you think about drafting in the first round? Yea second 716 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: or third? I need I need somebody who's gonna make 717 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: a significant difference. Wide receiver? Can the safety do it? 718 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: I'm okay with a wide receiver. I'm okay with a linebacker. 719 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 1: Gos we can get real quant smith here. Linebacker gonna happen? 720 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: Won't happen? Come on, Robb, I mean, hey, he's Sean 721 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: Lee two point zero. But I don't see it. Okay. 722 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: Edmonds is part buddies at the Raiders might get and 723 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: they're only one linebacker in the first round. Two, it's 724 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: actually two, and they're they're totally different guys. Oh the 725 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds Tremaine Edmunds Virginia Tech. Is about a six five, 726 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: two hundred forty five pound guy. That's it all good 727 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: at football? Yeah, there's some other there's some other good linebackers. 728 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: But can I seriously, one we almost a break. You 729 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: have to break. We're about to break, So okay, you 730 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: want to leave a cliff asked the question, No, I 731 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: just mickey with what asked the question is why would 732 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: you not consider guard at nineteen if you've seen what 733 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: guards are getting paid now and when we come back 734 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: from our second break making it well that so stay tuned. 735 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys fans know that the second best of anything simply 736 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: won't cut it, and your skincare should be no different. 737 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: A long time locker room favorite of the players and 738 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: the official men's skincare brand of the Dallas Cowboys, Dallas 739 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: based Jack Black is the number one best selling men's 740 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: skincare brand in the country because we make products that 741 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: help guys look, smell, and feel better. 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But 759 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: if your scouts and coaches are listening out there a 760 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,479 Speaker 1: word of advice. Pick the man with the most well 761 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: worn stetson. That's the one most cut out to be 762 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: a cowboy. Stetson hats are handmade right here in Texas 763 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: and have been on Cowboys heads for over one hundred 764 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: and fifty years. The rest of you can visit stetson 765 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: dot com slash cowboy to find a retailer nearest you. 766 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: What does it mean to be a Dallas Cowboys fan. 767 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: It means you've got the passion and the heart to 768 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: do your part supporting the boys no matter what. That's 769 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: why when the game's on the line, you're on your feet, 770 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: whether you're at home or in the stands. Actually, you're 771 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: more than a fan. You are a member of Cowboys, 772 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: and so is AT and T doing their part to 773 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: keep you connected to America's team all season law AT 774 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: and T is a proud member of Cowboys Nation. This 775 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: is Talking Cowboys. Do we still want some Papa John's pizza? We? Yeah, 776 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: Ursel's going We're hungry. In this free agent I saw 777 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: you can get a cookie, a two leader bottle of Stays, 778 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: and a large pizza for twelve ninety nine. How can 779 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: you beat that, especially the quality of the pizza you 780 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: get from Papa John for that ingredients, the veggies, the pepperoni. 781 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: It's a great deal. Sign up for it. We're in 782 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: our third segment here on Talking Characters. Only have about 783 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes the restructure my bi weekly budget, and before 784 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: we get to Rob's Twitter poll, we left you with 785 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: a cliffhanger from Brian brought us. Ask the man, Mickey Spagnola. No, 786 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean you were talking about a guard? Yeah, should 787 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: we look Should we look at these guards differently now 788 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: than we did, say, five, six, seven years ago? Oh? 789 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: I got no problem with that. My problem would be 790 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: paying four of my five offensive Lineman. The type of 791 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: money that it costs to keep those guys. Once you 792 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: pay Zach Martin on a long term deal, you've already done. 793 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: Layo Collins, you got the three Pro bowlers. I mean, 794 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 1: unless this guy is the guard to end all guards, 795 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,479 Speaker 1: I can't afford that many resources. If you're drafting offensive lines, 796 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: you're drafting. I'm drafting. I'm trying to draft one. Yeah, 797 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: I know, and still it's still that would be one, two, three, 798 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: four first round picks on the offensive line. What's the okay? 799 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: How much is okay? Smith? I mean what am I 800 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: passing up? Smith is seventeen million dollars, Frederick's thirteen million dollars. 801 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 1: Martin is nine million dollars right now now, Lyle Collins 802 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: is five million dollars. Give me, give me how much 803 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: money did I just spend a lot? At seventeen thirteen? 804 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: I recently added it up thirty count the nine. Is 805 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: it like buying a quarterback fifty fifty million dollars or 806 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: forty five million dollars on the offensive But is it 807 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: like you're buying a quarterback and are more important the 808 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 1: starting left guard or a swing tackle who can come 809 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: in when Tyrn Smith is hurt. Oh, we we went 810 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: down that road. They need to find both, they really do. 811 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: But I don't need a What am I forefeitting to 812 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: take a first round guard in fourteen? It just depends 813 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: on what you value. If you value he's the top 814 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: guy at your board, you're not okay with taking that. 815 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 1: I got to fix your offensive line. I was supposed 816 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: to be the strength. I went straight down this is where, 817 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: this is where can I real quick tabre? This is 818 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: where now I feel like that if the offensive line 819 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: can can be your strength, which at once two years ago, 820 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean last year we felt like they had some 821 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: issues with the health of it. But if you have 822 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: to make it transition at quarterback again, you have to 823 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: go to a younger quarterback and say things. You know 824 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: you're trying to help Dak, but say it doesn't work out, 825 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 1: and then you have to make a commitment to saying, Okay, 826 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: well we need a young quarterback to come in here 827 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: and play. That was the beauty of putting Dac in 828 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: two years ago, that it was all set up for him. Mickey, 829 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 1: I'm always trying to help the quarterback and I got you, 830 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: but and I know times have changed. You're thirty years ago. 831 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: I found me a USFL cast off that ended up 832 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: being a Pro Bowl guard. Nate Newton was a hel 833 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 1: of a player. No doubt you can find a guard. 834 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: Did they find one? Did the guard cause all the 835 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: problems last year? No? The backup tackle caused the problems. 836 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: So if I'm spending budgeting money, then I'm budgeting that 837 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: for a backup offensive tackle. So you're fine resigning Cooper 838 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: and he's be can't find a guard in the second 839 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: or third round. I don't need a first round guard. Okay, 840 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: either way, I think it's a priority because this is, 841 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: like Brian said, that's the strength of your team. You got. 842 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: It's built around in your running game, protecting your young quarterback. 843 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: They've got to fix that because you've you've pointed out 844 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: that was your issue with the offense. Okay, So the 845 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: biggest issue with the offense last year was Ezekiel Elliott 846 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: going out at the same time Tyr and Smith went out. 847 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: Can They were averaging twenty eight points a game over 848 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: the first eight games, right, and that was with Cooper 849 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: and Green playing guard. Can I make an addendum addendum too, 850 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: I can't even talk. It's an idiot precedence. Can I 851 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: make an addendment aside aside? I was I was driving 852 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: this morning. I think Rob was right about Cole Beasley 853 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: being a big problem or lack of Cole Beasley production 854 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: that hurt this offense. Well, was Dees Brian a threat? Oh? 855 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: Yes he was? But now I'm just can just hear 856 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: me out? Yeah? I think Rob was right Cole Beasley 857 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: half the production. I think Cole Beasley's lack of production 858 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: hurt this offense, maybe even just as much as the 859 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: offensive line. And when I said that, because we were 860 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: talking like bounce back guys for next year, I didn't 861 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: put it all on Cole I think, could you find 862 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm just saying there was a lot of extra attention 863 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 1: put towards him because it was clear in twenty sixteen 864 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: he was Dak's safety guy. Yeah it was. Maybe the 865 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: offense didn't hum along as well as it did because 866 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: of Cole Beasley's lack of production or they could not 867 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: find ways to get him open. I mean, I like 868 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: Mickey's offensive line argument, I'm with him all the way, 869 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: but the Cole Beasley being half the player that he 870 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: was last year, I think that really affected this I 871 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: was just driving along, I'm like, yeah, I would Cole 872 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: Beasley really do tough year for him and he can 873 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: still play. No, no, he can't. They team started treating 874 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: him like a number one receiver. Yeah, it really did. 875 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 1: And so then what else? How can you attack that? 876 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: You know, and I don't think they did it a 877 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: good enough job doing that and maybe creating opportunities for 878 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: him to get open others the game over the first 879 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: eight games, that's all I gotta say. That's all he's 880 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: got to say. You lost two of them when you 881 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: scored thirty points. Well, they got everybody back against Seattle 882 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 1: and what happened that was his first game back. Okay, 883 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: I knew that was coming. You put up twelve points. 884 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: Bit on that. I mean, you're gonna beat the captain 885 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: of the debate team here, No, I guess go to 886 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: your Twitter pool. Yeah we win. I got to today. 887 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: Actually two yes, best free agent signing in recent years 888 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: and yeah, the one you'd like to have back the 889 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: most from the last couple of years. Let's start with, 890 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: let's go positive day recent years. Jonathan Cooper, Joe Looney, 891 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: Darren McFadden, Alfred Morris and look these are again. This 892 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: goes back to these low cost deals. They you know, 893 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: I'll give you the best one of all time, low 894 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: Roy Glover. Okay, thank you. That's not the poll, but 895 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 1: that's the Wow, that's the one thing we did, right, 896 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: That's it was a good signing four Pro Bowls. Yeah, 897 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: that was Yeah, it might have been better than Dion Sanders. Okay, 898 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: because appreciate you saying. I think Sanders is still the 899 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: best one they've ever had. Yeah, and the record con 900 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: we were a bad team. We were a bad team 901 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: with a really good player. Okay, I'm sorry going No, Yeah, 902 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: you're good. We got to choose one of those four. 903 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. No, no interested, No, no, we are. 904 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: I mean I mean not interested because I'm trying to 905 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm stalling to think. I'm stalling to think. You gotta 906 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: go to darking Cowboys. What were the four again? McFadden 907 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: had a thousand yard season though, right he did? Seems 908 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 1: pretty pretty bold. Joe Looney is filled with Morris. Yeah, 909 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,760 Speaker 1: I would have to go with McFadden myself. They tied Morrison. 910 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: McFadden tied thirty three percent. And now, as we've talked about, 911 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 1: they've missed on some free aident signings last couple of years. 912 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,240 Speaker 1: Which one would they like to have back the most? 913 00:47:53,440 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: Carol Mayoa Paya or Cedric Thornton. Cedric Thornton. Yeah, most 914 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 1: money spent on Cedric Thornton. Nolan Carroll wins that one 915 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: fifty four percent of You know, he was the starting 916 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: corner to start the year. That had something that's really 917 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 1: wrong about had a lot to do with the young 918 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: guys being hurt. Wrong about him and who was the 919 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: second guy. Yeah, it's wrong about both those guys, talk 920 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,959 Speaker 1: about dead money. Wrong, Yeah, wrong about both those guys. 921 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: I was just as guilty as the pro scouts on 922 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: that one thought that maybe knowing that he would come 923 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: in and kind of be a bridge player. He never 924 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: was that, alrighty. So then your second poll, Robert, that 925 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: was it. That was it. Good and bad? There we go. Yeah, see, 926 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: I gotta hit if you're gonna spend, you know, if 927 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna nibble on free agency, you gotta be able 928 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: to hit on those guys. But I've got We've had 929 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: some worse guys than Nolan Carroll though. Yeah, in early 930 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: two thousands, we'll say that the margin for error is 931 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: uh is not great when you're when you're spending on 932 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: guys that are borderline starters, rotational guys, I mean it's 933 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: it is more of a challenge. You're not getting much 934 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: of a sure thing with those. But with those those 935 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: two running backs, we can talk about their yards. Yeah. 936 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: McFadden had three touchdowns. Yeah, and Morris had one last year. Yeah. 937 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: I want a guy that's running in the end zone. Yeah, 938 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: you've always said that. I think the thing about it 939 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: too is I look back in this free agency and 940 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: the signings and I think with parcels and what he 941 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: we've spent twenty seven million dollars on three guys one 942 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: time Ferguson, Anthony Henry and then Marco Marco Rico Rivera. Yeah, 943 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: that one didn't work out. He was past his prime, 944 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: but he was over paid back but his had a 945 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,439 Speaker 1: back problem in Green Bay. I was in Green Bay 946 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: with Marco Rivera and Bill. Bill didn't want to play 947 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 1: in free agency initially, and then we jumped in with 948 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: both feet the next year and it was a mistake, 949 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, And Ferguson was we signed some guys that 950 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 1: were bad. Rivera I think was thirty three years old 951 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 1: something like that. You know, it was bad It's just, 952 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: it's just it reminds me. It makes me want to 953 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: draft players more and more each day when I live this, folks, 954 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: I live this. You know. Yesterday I popped in with 955 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys and U Nate kept saying, I 956 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: would rather draft a guy, yeah, than sign somebody in 957 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: free aids somebody else has cast off. But if I 958 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: draft him, I gotta play him. Yeah. I can't sit 959 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: here and write right he was and his I think 960 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,399 Speaker 1: its reference was too. And this is what he said 961 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: all last year, by the way, from training camp on 962 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: if you're gonna draft Taco Charlton, I am, and you 963 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: think he's a developmental player, don't waste snaps on Benson Mayowa. 964 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: Play Taco Charlton. They got rid of de Montree more 965 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: and what happened, Taco started playing more and he started 966 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,919 Speaker 1: getting more snaps. And yeah, Nate was very consistent even 967 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,280 Speaker 1: on our pre and post game, on the postgame shows especially, 968 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: he was very consistent about that throughout. Play those young guys, 969 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,879 Speaker 1: the young guy And that's where this league going. If 970 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: you look at after that San Diego debacles, the Los 971 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: Angeles Charger debacle, they played those young kids. They finally 972 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: all got healthy and they played them and I felt 973 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 1: like they played pretty well down the stretch. Yeah, it's 974 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: so wild. I feel like growing up, you know, you 975 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: waited for guys to kind of get their chance in 976 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. You knew the first year they were probably 977 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: not going to get many snaps. But now it's it's 978 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: all hands on deck. You have a choice. And Steven 979 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,359 Speaker 1: has said this, they more and more have bought into 980 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: it's a young man's league, and when they look at 981 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: older players, they look at durability and what are we 982 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 1: spending on a guy that may not be able to 983 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: get through a sixteen game season. So that's that all 984 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: feeds into that draft first mentality. And look, the fans 985 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: argument is it can't all be draft, and they're right, 986 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: they're right. But again, you're also spending your money on 987 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,360 Speaker 1: your top Pro Bowl guys to retain as well, and 988 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: that's going to eat up a lot of your salary cap. 989 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: That's just a fact. Yeah that Brian made a good 990 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: point earlier about the Brandon carr one. You know, three 991 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: three guys in that in that free agency period, all 992 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 1: three cornerbacks all signed for fifty million dollars, and that 993 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 1: was the that was the price of doing business, and 994 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: then wanted one. Des Bryant signed his contract the same 995 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 1: time as the Marius Thomas Thomas. There was one more 996 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,720 Speaker 1: was Antonio Brown wasn't around that time? No, no, no, 997 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: there was one of more receiver. Yeah, but those those 998 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: two guys and then now we're all kind of like, 999 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 1: get rid of Das, get rid of DEAs. You know, 1000 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: that's again that's what we do. Is this a what 1001 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: have you done for me lately? League? Or it's a 1002 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: shame that it's a shame that we it's a shame 1003 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,919 Speaker 1: that we don't have discipline to see this thing through. 1004 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 1: And again it's Philadelphia went in the Super Bowl. Congratulations, 1005 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: they had a nice year. You know, there were one 1006 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 1: play away from you know, Atlantic, if they got their 1007 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,399 Speaker 1: hair at at their rear and would have called something 1008 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: different other than sprint ride option, you know, we wouldn't 1009 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 1: be talking about the Eagles right now. Mickey mentioned it 1010 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 1: earlier though. You know, Foles caught a touchdown pass from 1011 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: Trey Burton and he's expected to expected to be signed, 1012 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: expected to be signed away Bears. They don't recover that 1013 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 1: fumble at the half yard line. They don't even score 1014 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown sure against Atlanta. No, I'm just high machine. Yeah. Hey, 1015 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 1: good for them. Give him credit. They want they want, 1016 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: They got the trophies they got, they got a couple 1017 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: of stops when they need him in the Super Bowl. 1018 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: And controversial catches, it's all right, how about that. It's 1019 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: a cheese teak. Yeah, it's a catch. Yeah, three years later, 1020 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,879 Speaker 1: it's a catch. Yeah, it's life, Mickey, it's just disappointing 1021 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: federal men. Mickey, we are we are, you know. And 1022 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: I keep seeing and I want to rephrase this because 1023 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: I think this was a great point you brought up earlier. 1024 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: And we're all sitting here. I'm seeing that DeMarcus Lawrence 1025 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 1: is going to be joining the Show of Total Access 1026 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: later today on NFL Network. Good. I'm so glad though 1027 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: he's going on there as a Cowboy. And if you 1028 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,359 Speaker 1: followed his Twitter account since he signed his franchise tag, 1029 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: he's seemed so excited about it and it just had 1030 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: a good attitude if you would about it. And we're 1031 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,439 Speaker 1: sitting here and everyone's like, why then, I made big moves. 1032 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: The Cowboys made one of the biggest moves they have 1033 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: in the offseason, and last week. I think again, it 1034 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 1: goes back to and Taylor. You're absolutely right. It goes 1035 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: back to what we're talking about and having patience and 1036 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: the discipline. They're gonna make him pay for play for 1037 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: a bigger deal. That's the right way to do it. 1038 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 1: That's the way life should be. You know, perform, perform, 1039 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: and then you get a bigger contract. Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, 1040 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: Will McClay. They know that if he plays at a 1041 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: better level, they can tag him again, which would be significant, 1042 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: or they could they could work on a longer term deal. 1043 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: And you know that's good. That's what it should be. 1044 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: You know, you had fourteen fifteen sixteen, se go do 1045 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 1: that again. If you do that again, we'll pay you. 1046 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Jerry Jones won't pay him, 1047 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, I like the way this 1048 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: one's going that way. And you're right, seventeen million dollars 1049 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 1: is a huge commitment to one player, you know, with 1050 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: this team. So are you saying you wouldn't try to 1051 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: sign him to a long term deal? You would? Wait, 1052 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm waiting, Mickey, Okay, Yeah, you know what, I'm probably 1053 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: gonna get burned for it. Mickey but I'm gonna wait. 1054 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: You think they will wait? I think depends on a 1055 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: lot of stir and talk. Sack Martin thing has got 1056 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,320 Speaker 1: me nervous. I think. I think it's going to depend 1057 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: on how they construct what he would accept. Yes on 1058 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,760 Speaker 1: a long term yes, because if he wants seventeen million 1059 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: a year for five years, it ain't happening. What makes 1060 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,839 Speaker 1: you nervous about Martin? The fact hasn't been done yet, 1061 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 1: the fact that guy at Jacksonville just signed for thirteen 1062 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: million a year. That's okay, but you need to see it. 1063 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: But I mean you know what you need to see what? Yeah, 1064 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,760 Speaker 1: you need to see it. But say what if anybody 1065 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: serves him there? If anybody deserves thirteen million dollars a year, 1066 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 1: it's Sack Martin. Four years, four Pro Bowl, Yeah, four 1067 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: All pros. Yeah, Yeah, if anybody deserved it, He's the 1068 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: one guy that's played and deserve the money. He's gonna get, 1069 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Yeah. If you guys caught the 1070 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 1: blitz on Sunday night, one of my favorite things. Though, 1071 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about patients Lamp's dumbbar. You're a fan of 1072 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: maybe seeing him back here in Free I'm just trying 1073 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: to find a gadget running back cheap. I agreed with 1074 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: your opinion on it. I thought it was very Why 1075 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 1: I said it, Mickey, I'm gonna give you that's the 1076 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: guy with patients man with your with your compensatory picks. 1077 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna John Kelly Tennessee, I'm gonna I'm gonna make 1078 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 1: a run. And then I'm gonna make a run with 1079 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: get Nam Walton from Miami. Yeah, they didn't give me 1080 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: a choice of yeah, no, no, no, that's or draft 1081 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: no no no, But I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna 1082 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, I've kind of got something. I want that 1083 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: guy I want, Yeah, I want some guy. Hines is 1084 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 1: a kid from North Carolina State too. We talked about 1085 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 1: Darryl Williams from LSU is another guy, Carter from Grambling. 1086 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: They've got some guys that kind of got that what 1087 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: you guys want, absolutely and they're young and healthy, young 1088 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 1: healthy and Raidar role. Because Lance Dunbar had injury last year, 1089 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 1: they kept him out. Tiller is a broken man. Yeah, 1090 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 1: but it would be cheap. You can get him on 1091 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: a one year minimum. But how many years he's now 1092 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 1: in the league. I think five yeah, but can we 1093 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: get him cheap on that? Then they're a deal where 1094 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: you can kind of manipulate the money to make it 1095 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,040 Speaker 1: only like six hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, like they I 1096 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 1: mean there's there's some kind of deal like that. Oh no, yeah, yeah, 1097 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,800 Speaker 1: you can pay him this, but he's only going to 1098 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: cost you this against the cap. Yeahs, as long as 1099 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: you don't give him more than eighty thousand dollars signing bonus. 1100 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,319 Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, absolutely, well, thanks guys. Thanks Ken's yeah, 1101 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: and thanks Katie Pencard who's been doing our graphic. Thank 1102 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: you so much, Katie. Thank you guys. Another hour's worth 1103 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: of information. What I said, we have another hour's worth 1104 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: of information. We gotta wait till next you gotta wait. 1105 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: It's time for Mickey's minute. And I'm tired. Ken, I'm 1106 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: seeing people driving on Sam here. It's taken over. We'll 1107 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: be back next Tuesday. Join us. Then we'll have so 1108 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: much more needs than This has been a production of 1109 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club