1 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calida help A. 2 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: Welcome into a Friday radio only edition of One Bill's Live. 3 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as always and plenty 4 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: of stuff to get to today. Steve. We are not 5 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 2: even into September yet, though, and I feel like we're 6 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: already getting September. Weather is summer over. Somebody helped me here. 7 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gone. Yeah, you can just get that. 8 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: You answered too quickly. 9 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: No, it's gone, dude. We're gonna be wearing quarter zips 10 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: into the into the studio. We're gonna be, you know, 11 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: jackets out at night. You can't no more, no more 12 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: morning coffee on the porch because it's gonna be too chilly. 13 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: The whole thing. It's all shot gone by. I'm kind 14 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: of am I coming across, am I. 15 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: Coming across to we didn't it didn't really start till June. 16 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: May stunk in. 17 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: My am, I coming across too bitter by the way 18 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: to too sure. I think it is, man, I what 19 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: it's nice though, I mean it's it's it's great weather. 20 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: You can it does signal something on the way. 21 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: But for late September, this is great weather, right, But 22 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: me for me. 23 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: Uh, I think the best part of it is that 24 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: it's you know, fall, Autumn is a lead here, so 25 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: we're in for that. It's it's spectacular, it's it's I 26 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: think it's well because the bills and all the stuff 27 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: going on in the weather and climate, it's my favorite time. 28 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: Of the year. 29 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 30 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: Uh, we should get to some of these bills items 31 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: because I think there are ripple effects from some of 32 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: the things we saw on the transaction wire yesterday. So 33 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 2: a couple of items concerning the Bills. First, the team 34 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: reached an injury settlement with seventh round pick Caden Prather. 35 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: Prather was waived injured for those that don't remember the 36 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: week prior to final roster cuts, was not claimed, so 37 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: he reverted back to Buffalo's injured reserve list. But unlike 38 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: Max Harston and Tyland Grabil, he's not eligible to return 39 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: to the roster. One's healthy because he was put on 40 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: ir prior to final roster cuts, so he was given 41 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: an injury settlement yesterday and one's healthy. I'm guessing he's 42 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: going to try to latch on to another roster elsewhere 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: because he can't really. 44 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: Come back to the Bills right The Bills have gone on. 45 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: They've moved on from Caden, and they're going to free 46 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: him up to do whatever he wants or whatever he 47 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: can do. But yeah, the Bills have other things on 48 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: their wait right now. 49 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of a shame. Like the guy had 50 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: a hamstring injury early in camp and like we never 51 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: really saw him. Yeah, what happened briefly in that Chicago 52 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: preseason game, I think, but that was yeh. 53 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Through through no fall to their own. Some guys, you know, 54 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: you get an injury and then their ability to get 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: opportunities shrinks, and then those opportunities become more precious and 56 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: more significant. And if you don't knock it out of 57 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: the park on some of those smaller opportunities and the 58 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: fewer opportunities that you just get passed over, it happens. 59 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: It happens to good players. So and that's what looks 60 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: like happened to Kate and prayed there and like I said, 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: what like we always say with this stuff, but we 62 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: weren't there in meetings and stuff. There might have been 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: guys in there that were out shining him, you know, 64 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: that were that were picking it up faster, taking coaching better, 65 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: getting better reps, all of that stuff. So somebody might 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: just has been on an uptick and played better than 67 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: him for a couple of weeks and that's all it took. 68 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: They were that. Don't forget the roster was churning all 69 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: the way through camp because of injuries at every position, 70 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean that, and it could have meant 71 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: I think if I remember, right, he got cut when 72 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: they signed a guy at a different position. 73 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well he got waved injured, so he had. 74 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: To write but right, but they still had a roster spot. 75 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: They waved him injured because so they need so they 76 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: could sign a different guy. 77 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: That's right, you're right about that. Yeah, coming back to me, 78 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: whether he. 79 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: Was injured or not, that was an excuse for them 80 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: not to wait on him because they needed a guy 81 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: to position and that you know, they just moved on it. 82 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: Just things happened fast. 83 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: Uh. 84 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: The other bit of news is I think raising some concerns. 85 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: The Bills worked out three veteran NFL kickers on Thursday, 86 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: So the concerns are raised about the health of Tyler Bass, 87 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: who kicked in the final preseason game as we know, 88 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: and that marked the first time he kicked in almost 89 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: a month in this training camp slash preseason. But how 90 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: he felt coming out of that performance may have prompted 91 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: the Bills to prepare for the possibility that he can't 92 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: kick in Week one. I mean they tried out Zane Gonzalez, 93 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: Eddie Pinero, and Greg Joseph, three veteran kickers. 94 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: Pinero is the best in terms of career field goal percentage. 95 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: He's an eighty eight career percent kicker, five year vet 96 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: out of Miami and kicked the last three seasons for Carolina. 97 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: But Steve, I don't know about you. I saw that 98 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: they worked out three veteran kickers. This is not a 99 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: Caden Davis. Hey hold the fort for a couple of 100 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: weeks while we figured this out situation. 101 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: No, No, that like like you that I was. I 102 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: kind of sat up in my chair because of what 103 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: it said about Tyler Bass. 104 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember I was talking to coach in the 105 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: postgame press conference and I was trying to get his thoughts. 106 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: I said, look, you know what Tyler Bass looks like 107 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: when he's right. You've been around him long enough. Did 108 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: he look right to you tonight against Tampa Bay? And 109 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: while he did say that, what Tyler did was a 110 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: step in the right direction. He never really directly answered 111 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: the question I had, so it left me wondering, you 112 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: know what of it? 113 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: And this is not a signal I wanted to see 114 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: right days from the opener. 115 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: It's not good now, certainly, you know, I mean, there's 116 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: the level for a guy who can get tried out 117 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: by the NFL. The guy's not going to be a nothing. 118 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: He's not going to go out there and go oh 119 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: for four, right, But you're right, he does have to 120 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: come in and get acclimated. The guys have to do 121 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: find its best if they do know who he is, 122 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: how he is, what kind of guy he is, get 123 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: to know him. They've got four years or maybe this 124 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: is fifth year for Tiger Bass, so it was you know, 125 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: they know who t Bass is. It means something certainly. 126 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: The guy come in and kick and they can find 127 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: out and see how he does and all that. But 128 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: it's a tryout both for most of the players. Even 129 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: if he makes all his kicks, it's still a tryout 130 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: for his personality, you know, about how kind of guy 131 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: he is, what kind of teammate he's going to be. 132 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: Making kicks goes a long way, though, But I just yeah, 133 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: this speaks a lot about where Tyler bass is and 134 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: where he's not. It's concerning to me. 135 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the other element of this is not just hey, 136 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: we got to bring a new kicker in because Tyler's 137 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: not going to be fit to kick week one, but 138 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: now Brad Robbins has to get used to holding the 139 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: ball presumably a different way for whatever kicker may or 140 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: may not have to come in. That's an adjustment period 141 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: and I'm sure that can get sorted. 142 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: Out in a week's time. 143 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: But it's just an added layer to the whole thing 144 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: of what could very well be a field goal game 145 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: Sunday night. 146 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you hope it, You hope you're I mean, you 147 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: love to blow a team out, but you're not. Nobody's 148 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: blowing the Baltimore Ravens out, even if they are at 149 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: home then, and nobody's blowing the Bills out either. This 150 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: is gonna be is gonna be one of those games 151 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: everybody thinks that I think it's gonna be. So yeah, 152 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: are you kidding? You gotta you need you need everything 153 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: clicking for you against the Baltimore Ravens on opening Day 154 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: after they after you're the team that put him out 155 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. 156 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: Speaking of clicking, ESPN NFL analyst and Friends of the show, 157 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: Ben Solak put together a list of X factors for 158 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: each team in the league, and for the Bills, he 159 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: listed wide receiver key On Coleman as Buffalo's X factor. 160 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: Here's some of what he wrote. 161 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 2: The Bills have an excellent slot in Khalil Shakir, but 162 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: Coleman is the player they really need to emerge on 163 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: the outside. He's not an elite separator, but succeeds as 164 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: a ball winner. That's the sort of player who needs 165 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: time to develop trust in chemistry with his quarterback, as 166 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: Allen must be willing to throw to Coleman even when 167 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: he's covered. In year one, the relationship was not yet. 168 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: But if Coleman can become a t. Higgins esque receiver 169 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: over the middle of the field and in the low 170 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: red zone, he'll introduce a new physical facet that the 171 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: Bills missed at times last year. Perhaps then this offense 172 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: can finally get the team over the hump. You and 173 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: I have seen Keon Coleman perform in that fashion, and 174 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: I know in our recent podcast Bills by the Numbers, 175 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: we both had him as a breakout candidate on offense 176 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: that we picked so well, like what we've seen so far. 177 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and here's the thing too, I'm for me and 178 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: I put this on Joe Brady a little bit last year, 179 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: even in the games were Keon flashed, which he did 180 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: on a number of occasions, Joe Brady can scheme them open. 181 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't have to go out and win 182 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: a one on one at the top of the right. 183 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: He has, but this is this is an offense where 184 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: everybody's moving across the field. You got crossers, you got picks, 185 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: you got rubs, you've got mismatches. And yes, while it 186 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: is important at certain times in a game where you've 187 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: got a guy that can separate, Joe Brady is scheming 188 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: guys running open at a high rate. That's why everybody eats. 189 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: In this offense. He'll pick out a matchup put to 190 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: set the formation in motion, get the right defender on 191 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: the right offensive player, and take advantage of it. So 192 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: in this type of offense, at this current moment in 193 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: the NFL, yes, there are gonna be times when you 194 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: wish Keon could get a guy and shake him off 195 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: and drop him off at the top of the route. 196 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: And come out clean. But for the most part, this 197 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: is an offense. If Keon's not able to do that, 198 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: there's gonna be guys who can. Shakir can do it, 199 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: Palmer can do it. They got guys for that. 200 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 4: I like. 201 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: It's a certain kind of matchup from the defense. If 202 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: they need Keon to get the ball, they'll scheme him open. 203 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: Joe Brady has shown the ability to do that on 204 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: a handful of occasions throughout a season, more than a handful, 205 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, not a ton. You'd wish Dion could go 206 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: up and get get loose on a deep comeback of 207 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: the sidelines. He may be able to do that against 208 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: the right defender. But man, oh man, this guy is 209 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: gonna help you. I think Keon I'm with you. I 210 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: think Keon is gonna be a difference maker on this 211 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: offense because of the physicality he brings to the to 212 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: the table, the work he's done. I think his separation 213 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: has got has improved dramatically. But I don't. Yeah, that's 214 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: that's not what he's here for. That's why Palmer's here, 215 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: that's why Shakis here, That's why they keep They're getting 216 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: Keon on the field. They need him for different type 217 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: of stuff. 218 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: Let's go around the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy, official 219 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo. 220 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: Bills, and I guess we'll start. 221 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 3: Even though this news broke last night. MICHAEH. 222 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: Parsons now a Green Bay Packer, And boy did Steve 223 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: and I have that one wrong on the show yesterday. 224 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: We thought, much like the m at Smith negotiation thirty 225 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: years ago, that Jerry would buckle, knowing the caliber of 226 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: playery D and Parsons, and sign him to a record 227 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: setting deal. Instead, the Cowboys traded Parsons to the Packers 228 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: for a pair of first round picks and veteran defensive 229 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 2: tackle Kenny Clark. Green Bay, which had the cap space, 230 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: then signed Parsons to four years, one hundred and eighty 231 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: eight million dollars, and that blew the lid off the 232 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: top of the pass rusher market. Lott reset it at 233 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: forty one per year a few weeks ago, which eclipsed 234 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: Miles Garretts deal at forty million per but then Parsons 235 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: ups the average by six million dollars and signs like 236 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: two and a half weeks after wattsteal, Like, holy cow, 237 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: I think that's bigger news than maybe Jerry Jones battling 238 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: his own ego. 239 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 3: And signing with his ego. 240 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say the short term, I believe Green Bay 241 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: won the trade. In the long term, maybe not, maybe not. 242 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: I heard on one of the talk show and you know, 243 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: you couldn't get away from this deal. Yesterday you were 244 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: on social and you had to listen to somebody talking 245 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: about the Parsons deal. Right. One of the guys said 246 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: there had been guys in Dallas who had gone into 247 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: the GM's office, the head coach's office, saying, what are 248 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: you gonna do with Micah? He's a problem. 249 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: You know. 250 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: They had been voicing some concerns about the kind of teammate, 251 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: the kind of guy I don't know, but there were 252 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: problems with Micah off the field, within the locker room. 253 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: Well, you saw him laying on the training table on 254 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: the sideline like a lazy bag of you know what. 255 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: Micah don't care, right, So if that flies in Green 256 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: Bay and they can live with it, that's okay. But 257 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: in two or three years that might grow thin. And 258 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: we've seen it before with really great players. Alah, you 259 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: know Antonio Brown a uh you know, uh, Terrell Owens. 260 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: You know, guys who start to get a reputation for 261 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: not being a sweetheart of a teammate, they start to 262 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: pass get passed around. If Jerry Jones can hit on 263 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: these draft picks, and you know, and you get Penny 264 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: Clark back, who's in, who's along in the tooth, defensive tackle? 265 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: Who can who's a good player? Yeah, yeah, this is 266 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: this is a big deal. It's not the yeah, it's 267 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: it's not the Herschel Walker deal where they got three ones, 268 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: three two's, and two threes and a bunch of players. 269 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: It's still ridiculous. 270 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: Think about it. 271 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: That's what's still ridiculous today. 272 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: It's still ridiculous. The Cowboys traded Herschel to the Vikings 273 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: for three ones, three two's, two threes and players. They 274 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: got a entire eleven man crew. 275 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: It's so ridiculous. 276 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: So it's not that deal. Yeah, think about it. You 277 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: get a deal like that, you can go to the 278 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: super Bowl three out of four years and win three 279 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: of them. Yes, that's what happened. 280 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing pass Trade said to me 281 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: about the Cowboys was, we're punting on twenty twenty five, 282 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: like our defense is already bad. 283 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: With Parsons. 284 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: Now it is going to be borderline laughable. Maybe Kenny 285 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: Clark helps you in the run front, but my god, 286 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: like Dak Prescott and the crew are going to have 287 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: to score forty a game if they want. 288 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: To win half of their games. Forget about more than that. 289 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: So to me, it's almost Jerry maybe it is partly 290 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: acquiescing to the players on the roster that. 291 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: Wanted Micah out of there because there is a league. 292 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: This guy is an unquestioned diva. 293 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: He is diva like which you don't see terribly often 294 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: at the pass rusher position. 295 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: This is usually reserved through a wide receiver. 296 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: But I think Jerry maybe took that into account and 297 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: then also said, well, if we move on from this guy, 298 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: we're probably punting on twenty twenty five and being a 299 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: contending team. 300 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: Right. 301 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: Well, see, like Bruce was a little bit of a 302 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: diva early in his career Bruce Smith here in Buffalo. 303 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: But then he you know, he started that all changed. 304 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean he came full so he was great. You know, 305 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: we got about halfway through the nineteen eighty nine season, 306 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: about three or four years into like right before his 307 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: second contract kicked in. 308 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: He was great. 309 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: And he was tremendous for the rest of his career. 310 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: But you know, some guys go through a phase like that, 311 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: and our team changed around him so that you know 312 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: it was there for him to do that. But yeah, 313 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: if he's that guy who is who nobody wants to 314 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: hang out with. Listen, green Bay, you got to hang 315 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: out with the boys in Green Bay. Ain't nobody else there. 316 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: You're living in a village. If Micah is a man 317 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: to himself, unapproachable, it's gonna be a long, lonely one 318 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight million dollars. 319 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean right, You would like to think that 320 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: they'd find a way to pull him into that circle 321 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: and make it work, knowing the caliber of player he 322 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: is and how much he can help the football. 323 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: Social but socially speak, he's got to come halfway too. 324 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Socially speaking, it's a it's an outpost, right, So 325 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: uh okay, we'll see. But short term, you know, Green 326 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: Bay is gonna get a huge bump from this that 327 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna love them. They're gonna be They're gonna be 328 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: a good football team. They were good last year right 329 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: as the youngest offense in the league. Now they got this, dude, 330 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: They're they're gonna be a They're gonna be a tough 331 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: out two years down the line, three years down, you know, 332 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: Dallas might be reaping the benefits of this trade and 333 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: Micah might be playing for a different team other than 334 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: green Bay. Now, if green Bay goes off wins a Lombardi, 335 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, hey, they win. Unless Dallas comes back and 336 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: wins one. With those draft picks, well, and. 337 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: We should not dismiss the fact that next year is 338 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: supposed to be a very strong quarterback class draft too, 339 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: and I would anticipate, you know, with two first round 340 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: picks next year, Dallas is using maybe both of them 341 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: to trade up to the top of the draft and 342 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: get one of the best quarterbacks you know, in the 343 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: class that would. 344 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 3: Be that would make sense. 345 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: Maybe they or maybe they swap them for a twenty 346 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: twenty seven pick, Get get a couple of twenty twenty 347 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: seven picks, and get Arch have a shot at Arch Manning, 348 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: you know when he comes out, Give Dak another year, 349 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: don't don't worry about it, and you know, get get 350 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: Manning the next year. 351 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 3: Playing right down this down the road in Austin. 352 00:18:54,880 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, problems continue to surface for the Dolphins. Dolphins 353 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: outside linebackers coach Ryan Crowe was arrested Friday by Fort 354 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: Lauderdale police on domestic battery charges been placed on administrative 355 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: leave immediately. Dolphins issued a statement that said we're aware 356 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: of the serious matter involved that involves Ryan crow and 357 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: currently are gathering more information. He's been placed on administrative leave, 358 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: effective immediately. We've been in communication with the NFL and 359 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: we'll reserve further comment at this time. Steve, We've talked 360 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: about it since May. This is a top three team 361 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: to implode this season. They aren't even playing football yet, 362 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: and the cracks and the fishers are growing bigger and 363 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: bigger down there. 364 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and I'll say this as well received as 365 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: the Bill's rivalry uniforms were. You know, it's just it's 366 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: gasoline on the fire. Nobody likes the Dolphin uniforms. They 367 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: are hot garbage. They're black with teal numbers and orange tree. 368 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: It's their horror. 369 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're pretty bad. 370 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: And I'm waiting for the social media post to say, well, 371 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: it's very appropriate that the Dolphins are wearing their black 372 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: jerseys in Week seven. 373 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: By then they'll be walking to their own funeral or 374 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: something to that effect. So they'll be wearing black. Quite appropriate. 375 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: You're well ahead of it. But yes, yeah, you've called 376 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: it before I even did, before I was on board 377 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: with it. You wrote it on the whiteboard about the Dolphins. 378 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: You and I both think that they're going to detonate, Yeah, 379 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: at some point early in this season and just going 380 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: to be a crumbling down. There's going to be a 381 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: building collapsing on itself. 382 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 383 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: I mean McDaniel's a really sharp coordinator. I just don't 384 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: know if he's head coaching material, you know, and there 385 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: are some things like that in the league, and there 386 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: have been over the years. But great play caller, but man, 387 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a leader of men. 388 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 4: And you got to be that. 389 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: He's a really good coach. I think he's a really 390 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: good human being. I think his players like him. Your 391 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: team takes on the personality of your head coach, and 392 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: he is a thinker. He's not that ear right, He's 393 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: not that guy that's going to stand up in command 394 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: a room. But he's sharp sharp, and as a result, 395 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: their team is a kind of a finesse team. I've 396 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: seen things on film that kind of make me raise 397 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: my eyebrows about their physicality and their willingness to be 398 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: physical they come across. They've been labeled as soft, even 399 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: by their players who have left there after playing there. 400 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: That is not something you want to be labeled in 401 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: the NFL. So I think, yeah, Mike McDaniel has had 402 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: a good run in Miami, but I'm with you. I 403 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: think it's on thin ice here this season and it 404 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: doesn't look like it's going to be a promising year. 405 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: In other AFC's news, the Patriots are releasing veteran safety 406 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: Gabrill Peppers. Peppers has just over four million guaranteed left 407 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: on his contract for this season. And we know the 408 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: Patriots and stomach it. They have the most capp space 409 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: in the league right now. 410 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 3: Eighty five career starts. 411 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: I mean, he was utilized the last three years in 412 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: New England's three safety scheme defensively. Makes you wonder, you know, 413 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: if a team like the Bills would kick the tires 414 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: on Peppers. He's twenty nine years old, former first round 415 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: pick of the Browns back in twenty seventeen. I mean, 416 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: Brandon always says it, we're always looking to an upgrade 417 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: and improve the roster. I don't know if they see 418 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: this as an upgrade, but it's a quality player. 419 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: Here's what happens. And I know everybody's wondering, Hey, why 420 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: are the Bills Brandon? When that moment that comes over 421 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: the wire and Brandon Bean finds out about it, he 422 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: walks down to his pro personnel office and he says, 423 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: what do we got on Peppers? What's he look like? 424 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: And they will have film evaluation, athleticism, evaluation, production evaluation, age, injury, 425 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing. They're gonna have a whole file on 426 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: him and they're gonna look at it and they'll say, 427 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: what do we think of him? And then they'll have 428 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: opinions written out, reports written out by their scouts about 429 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: what this guy is. Here's what Jabrill Peppers has been 430 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: for the pet when we were gonna play the Patriots, 431 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: Here's what we thought about him. Yeah, we don't know 432 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: what any of that stuff is, but they're gonna know. 433 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: So if they're after him, it's because they thought, yeah, 434 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: he's pretty good player on it on a pretty good defense. 435 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 436 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: It was funny because Peppers, I guess, recently shares his 437 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: own social media that he has a ninety point one 438 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: PFF grade over the past two seasons, fourth among all safeties. 439 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: So there's Peppers tooting his own horn to try to 440 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: find work here on the cusp of the start of 441 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: the regular season. 442 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If he is a good player, what's 443 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: he gonna play for? 444 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 4: You know? 445 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: Because if he's a free agent. 446 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 2: Right, so he's got guaranteed money coming to him from 447 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 2: the four mild. 448 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: Four point two or four point three coming to him, 449 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: all right, And I don't know that there's offset language. 450 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: So if he gets picked up by another team, the 451 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: Patriots are off the hook for up to that point point. 452 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: So that's where you're at. It's it's a financially he'll 453 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: he'll go to the highest bidder, right, yes, well, Kansas City, Baltimore. 454 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: He'll go to the one that he thinks he can 455 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl with. You'll find out who 456 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: he's betting on to make the super Bowl or if 457 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: it's not the highest bidder or the super Bowl contender, 458 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: it'll be the one where he thinks he can play 459 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: the most and have the most success personally. 460 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was kind of well known through the 461 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 2: course of camp and the preseason that the Patriots are 462 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: trying to move on from Kyle Dugar via trade, but 463 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: I think he's he's harder to move not because he's 464 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: a younger player. 465 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: I think he's more talented than Pepper's. But the problem 466 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 3: is his contracts bigger. 467 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: Because I think he's signed an extension a year or 468 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: two ago, so he's more on a team cap. So 469 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: they couldn't trade Duggers, so they throw Peppers overboard. And 470 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: Ben Volan, who writes for the Boston Globe, he tweeted 471 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: after the release of Peppers, the goodfellas like whacking of 472 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: last year's captains continues. So I went and I looked 473 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: it up because I couldn't remember who were the captains 474 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: for the Patriots last year. Jacoby Burssett obviously moved on. 475 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: I think he's in Arizona as a backup. Joe Cardona, 476 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: their longtime long snapper, got canned. David Andrews retired, Juwan 477 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: Bentley was cut early in the offseason, Dietrich Wise was 478 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: thrown overboard. I think he's in Washington now. He's signed 479 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: there as a free agent, and now Peppers. That's it. 480 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: None of the captains from last year's team are on 481 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: the roster. I mean, the Bills experienced that to a 482 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: certain extent, but it's because guys aged out. And maybe 483 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: there's a couple of those examples here. But holy cro 484 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: I mean you talk about well Rabel putting his stamp 485 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 2: on this thing. 486 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, reef, that's I think it's deliberate, no question about it. 487 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: I think what had happened, and it there's still guys 488 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: in there from obviously from when Bill Belichick coached the team. Uh, 489 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: he drafted a ton of these guys. Vrabel wants to 490 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: get people who are eyes in. There's no question about it. 491 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: It sounds, it sounds cut and dried. But all these 492 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: guys had a chance to jump on board with Vrabel 493 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: and do the things he wanted him to do. And 494 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: if if there was a residue or a or a 495 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: mindset in the locker room that Rabel didn't like, he 496 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: was cutting the guys out who were displaying it. He 497 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: wants to get he wants to get the culture correct, 498 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: and he's doing the right thing. 499 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 2: I mean, because he's also done very he's employed very 500 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: similar tactics to the last couple of draft classes. I 501 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: think Drake May and like one or two other guys, 502 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 2: Cole strings. 503 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: Left from the last two draft classes. He punted it 504 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: all on them too. 505 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: Col Strange gone, all these guys are gone. Yeah, he's 506 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a huge it's a huge statement about 507 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: what head coaches, how how important culture is to these guys. 508 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: They're cutting good players, players who have been productive high 509 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: draft picks, because they're the wrong dudes, the wrong guys 510 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: in between their ears and inside their chest. You know, 511 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: they got for it. They don't have the right attitude, 512 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: they don't have they aren't smart enough or think the 513 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: right way. They're getting rid of all the guys that 514 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: aren't one hundred percent right in the culture and on 515 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: the field. And it's it's hard to that tells you 516 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: how important that is. 517 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 4: Man. 518 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: I say it all the time. Brownie football is different. 519 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: It takes a special group to willingly go to work 520 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: every morning and no, particularly on game day. You're gonna 521 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 1: go playing a game and it sounds all like fun. Hey, 522 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: this go out and play in front of the big 523 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: crowd at home, and this is gonna be great. It's 524 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: gonna hurt, is what it's gonna do. It's gonna hurt. 525 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: And you gotta like the guys you're playing with. In 526 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: order to willingly go out there and risk that, you've 527 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: got to really feel like you're not loan in this. 528 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: You've got to feel like everybody's pulling for you, that 529 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: they would do the same for you, and coachers know it. 530 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: That's why football is completely different than any other any 531 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: of these sports. It is one hundred chance you're gonna 532 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: get you are going to hurt. In the NFL, you 533 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: may not get injured, but it's gonna be painful to 534 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: make that tackle, to get rolled over on, to get 535 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: caught at the bottom of a pile, to get the 536 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: ball stripped, and then end up getting trying to get 537 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: back into it and trying to recover your own fumble, 538 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: trying to catch a pass with two guys hanging on you, 539 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: trying to make a block on a guy who doesn't 540 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: want to be blocked, push a guy against his will 541 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: who's fighting tooth and nail not to get pushed. It hurts, man. 542 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: It's a fight. And if the culture is the only 543 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: thing that makes it worth it for players to go 544 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: through it, and if they're not a fit, get rid 545 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: of them. 546 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what Vrabel's doing. In no uncertain terms. 547 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: Before we take a break here. 548 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 2: We want to remind you it is the OBL Friday 549 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: fan mail Bag, but being radio only and we're and 550 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: technically we can't take phone calls today, We're. 551 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: Going to be exclusively taking tweet sheet. 552 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: Comments from the OBL Friday fan mailbag, So that's where 553 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: you send your questions in for the show with us 554 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: today at One Bills Live. 555 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: On the tweet sheets, so be sure to do that. 556 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: If you have any question under the sun about the bills, 557 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: the roster, some of the designations that have been handed 558 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: out this week, whatever you got on your mind, fire 559 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: away on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. 560 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: Second hour of the show, we got Yahoo. 561 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: Sports NFL writer Charles mcdonay joining us, so we'll catch 562 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: up with him in the second hour of the program. 563 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: We break right now, but we get to some of 564 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: your tweets when we return. Here on One Bill's Live 565 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: presented by Collida Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. 566 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 5: AhR. 567 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: Back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown Speed Tasker 568 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: Friday edition, which means the OBL Friday fan mail Bag 569 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: is open. But since we are radio only and a 570 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: little technically limited today, we can only take your questions 571 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet in. 572 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: The mailbag at one Bills Live and we're gonna. 573 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: Go there right now, where Jacob says, if you're a 574 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: young player, would you want the team to sign an 575 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: experienced veteran with sway in that particular locker room to 576 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: the practice squad? 577 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: Not sure I see the benefit to Cole Bishop here. 578 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: So he's obviously referring to Steve to the Jordan Poyer 579 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: presence on the practice squad, and he doesn't see it 580 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: as beneficial to Bishop. But I think he's looking at 581 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: it in a different way than the Bills are looking 582 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: at it. I think he's looking at it as this 583 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: guy's gonna come take his job. How does that benefit him? 584 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: And I don't think the Bills are looking at it 585 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: that way at all. 586 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: Now, if that's your if that's your mindset, you're the 587 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: wrong guy to being a on an NFL team. You 588 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna take the tutelage. You want a 589 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: guy that you can bounce and and Poyer is the 590 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: right kind of guy. I mean, Poyer knows that's his role. 591 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: He's gonna help, and that's that's the atmosphere inside. They're 592 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: bringing in guys to help you. You accept it and 593 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: you try and get better with it. You don't there's 594 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: nothing to fear. If it's gonna help you play better, 595 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: you embrace it. And that's that's what that's what this 596 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: is about. And I'm sure that's been the messaging from 597 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. That's been the messaging from his position 598 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 1: coaches uh McDermott, and I'm sure they've got and Poyer 599 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: is on board with that as well. Poyer knows the score, 600 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: he knows Micah Hyde. That's what Michael Hyde did last year. 601 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: The plan was never for Mike and to play, and 602 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: Michaeh was open about that, but he wanted to help. 603 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: So I'm Cole Bishop's all about. If he has angst 604 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: about that or whatever he's in, I don't know what 605 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: plan he's been living on. Well, that's what that's that's 606 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: your kitchen. That's your kitchen when you're in training camp. 607 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to take your job. 608 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I and to your point about Micah doing 609 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: it last year, Cole was here for that, so he 610 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: saw how it worked and operated last year in a 611 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: very similar fashion with another veteran player that had been 612 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: on this roster for years all you're doing is changing 613 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: the name it's Jordan Foyer this year to kind of 614 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: help you along. So I would think having gone through 615 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: it last year without a real perceived threat so to speak, 616 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: I think he'll be open to this arrangement again this year. 617 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 618 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a plus, not a negative. 619 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: So that's their answer for that. 620 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 2: Ed asks, in your opinion, has there been a wackier 621 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: Bills training camp in pres then this year in the 622 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: Sean McDermott era, and if so, did having hard knocks 623 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: around play into it? I never really thought Steve that 624 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: hard knocks was a distraction in any. 625 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: Way, shape or form. 626 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: They stay out of the way, like you see them, 627 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: but they're good at kind of staying out of the way. 628 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, teams don't. Teams don't want to be on hard 629 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: knocks because they don't want to look like the giants 630 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: in the Saquon Barkley incident. You know, they don't want 631 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: to be made to look bad. Most of these teams, 632 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: I know the Bills are like this, and I know 633 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: everybody else was like this as well. They get final 634 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: say on what's clearable for air, right if they don't 635 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: want you to talk about a certain subject. You don't 636 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: until James Cook signed. He was barely hard knock and 637 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: for the regular media that would be page one, story 638 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: one front of the burner. That's all you talk about 639 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: is this star player who's not signed. The bills said, 640 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: we don't want that distraction. You can talk about all 641 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 1: this other stuff, but that's it, So you know, they 642 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: it was a story after it was not a story, right, 643 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, it hard knocks, is. 644 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 3: It? 645 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: You're right, brownie. It was not a distraction. Yeah, not 646 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: a distraction. Teams just don't want to be made to 647 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: look better or have an embarrassing moment. 648 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 3: That's all all right. 649 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: So I want to ask you what you think about this, 650 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: because he's arguing that this was the wackiest training camp 651 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: in the McDermott era. I would if I had to 652 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: submit a competitor to that, I would submit twenty seventeen. 653 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: When we saw Sammy Watkins and Ronald Darby traded like 654 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: the second week of training camp, it was like it 655 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: was like a ron Bolden sign and then retire in 656 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: the span of three days. To me, that that takes 657 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 2: the kick. 658 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 3: That was a wacky camp. 659 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: What was the dB who'd retired during the game oh 660 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: Davis Vonte Davis. 661 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: Well, that was during the season. 662 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it was during the season, not training 663 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: to be Yes, you're right, that's to me, Brownie. That's 664 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: that's worse than this. Those are two really good, accepted, 665 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: high quality players traded right before camp. I've said it 666 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: ever since then McDermott and the Bills were accused of 667 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: tanking right out of the gate. Yeah, and not only 668 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: did they not tank, they broke a seventeen year playoff drought. 669 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: It's amazing with that crew. 670 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: That's when you kind of had to know McDermott's the guy. Oh, 671 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: you had to know, and he is the guy, and 672 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: then you know, of course it's here we go. Ever since, 673 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: but it's that you're right. I think that first one 674 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: with McDermott, when there was so far to go and 675 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: it looked like yet another new head coach that was 676 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: not allowed. You know, we just got out of the 677 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: Rex rockbackle. And then it had been it had been 678 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: Chant Gaily and Dick Jaron and Doug Marone and you know, 679 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 1: one guy after another who were nice people just couldn't 680 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: get the production. And when McDermott came in after that 681 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: first training camp, and you described everything that happened. Yeah, 682 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: and then went to the playoffs. Yeah, nothing's been the 683 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: same since. 684 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: Heather in the mail bag asks as a lifelong Bills 685 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 2: fan who apparently cheered juice as loose as a toddler. 686 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 3: Wow, that's some talent. 687 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 5: Uh. 688 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: I am finally getting to attend a Bill's game, Buffalo 689 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: versus Baltimore. 690 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 3: Let's go. How early should I get there? 691 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: And what should I know about parking, tailgating and seeing 692 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: the game in person? 693 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: Well, I don't need to get You don't need to 694 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: get there that early. Just show up on Friday. 695 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 2: Well, if you're I will say this first, Heather, If 696 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: you are parking in a Bills Stadium lot, you can't 697 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 2: do that more than four hours before the game kicks off. 698 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 2: If you're in a satellite lot that's independently owned, you'll 699 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 2: have to check to see. 700 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: How there'll be go to those lots that No, it's 701 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: a night game, it'll be chillie, you know, so address accordingly. 702 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: But as for tailgating, tailgating, hey, you gotta, you gotta. 703 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: That's your call. But for me, I have about three 704 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: or four tailgates. I stop by every week and just 705 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: say hello, to some friends and all of that. There's 706 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's a spot where the alumni grat gather. 707 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: I always go to the Mafia House, the Big Tree, 708 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, and a couple others between those over in 709 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: the in the grove over there. Yeah, so I'm I'm 710 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: if you've got a plan for your tailgate, it's not 711 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: brown and I talk about this and the you know 712 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: we've in the relationship hotline. You gotta prepare, so have 713 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: a plan is what you're gonna do. If you're gonna 714 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: feed yourself, you know, you got to get there early 715 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: enough to set it up and get it all. 716 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 2: Under Not only that, depending on how early you get there, Steve, 717 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: it could be a two meal tailgate. 718 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna need to eat an hour or 719 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: so before you go into the game because it's a 720 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: three hour game and you're not gonna get out of 721 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: there till you know, almost midnight. So think you got 722 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: to think through that and that's that's awesome, Heather. I'm 723 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: congratulations for getting to your first game. It'll be fun. 724 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: I would go for me, Heather. Go very early, take 725 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: in everything, walk around, say hi to people. They love 726 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: to see everybody's everybody's gonna be in a fantastic mood. 727 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: There's gonna be people setting up in the morning on Sunday. 728 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: Just go say hi to everybody. 729 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 2: And I would just say, as far as seeing the 730 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 2: game in person, your only responsibility is to be as 731 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: loud as possible, to make life as miserable as possible 732 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: for the Ravens. That's your job as a fan. And 733 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 2: you know, don't be afraid to high five the person 734 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: next to you, even if. 735 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: You don't know them. 736 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of the fun, that's right. 737 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 3: Scott says. 738 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 2: I know McDermott has always been about keeping competitive advantage, 739 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: often giving vague answers about injuries. However, this trade situation 740 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 2: is really odd. We haven't heard exactly what it is 741 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 2: other than the lower leg I know they owe us nothing. 742 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 2: Team even kept it off hard knocks your thoughts. I 743 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 2: think it's largely rooted in the fact that they don't 744 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 2: have to provide details until this week. So why are 745 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 2: you going to give details that don't need to be 746 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: revealed even under the letter of the law of the 747 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 2: league until Wednesday at the earliest, this coming week? 748 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: Why would you? Yeah, that's one of the things that 749 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: they've done throughout their history of with Sean McDermott. It 750 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: used to be when he came in, they wouldn't do 751 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: any They wouldn't announce any decision they have made about 752 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: anybody until the deadline came. They kept everything under wraps 753 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: as long as they possibly could. Now they're a little 754 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: more lax on that, except this their depth chart, their 755 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: injuries and stuff. They only release it when they have to, 756 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that's going to continue. That's the one 757 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: thing that has not changed for them. 758 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 3: We have to step aside. 759 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: Take a break here, but feel free to keep firing 760 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 2: off questions to the Gobel Friday fan mail bag on 761 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 2: the tweet sheet at One Bill's Live. We can't take 762 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 2: calls today because we're a little technically limited, being radio 763 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: only and remote, so we'll take a break here. Take 764 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 2: more of your questions when we return. Don't forget we've 765 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: got Charles McDonald coming up from Yahoo's Sports in the 766 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: second hour of the show. Here on One Bill's Live, 767 00:40:54,200 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: presented by Collide Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Back Here 768 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: on One of Bills Live, Chrus Brown, Steve Caasker with you. 769 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 2: The obl Friday fan mail Bag is open. Any question 770 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 2: you've got, buyer it away on the tweetcheet at one. 771 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 2: Bill's live unable to take phone calls today, a little 772 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 2: technically limited, so feel free to do that there. 773 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 3: And we've been getting to some of. 774 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 2: The questions out of the mail bag thus far through 775 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 2: the course of the first hour. Second hour, we've got 776 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 2: Charles McDonald's coming in Yahoo's Sports NFL writer and co 777 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 2: host of the Yahoo Sports Football three to oh one podcast. 778 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 2: Got to talk to him about a few things, among 779 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: them the Bill's rivalry uniforms, which Steve, I don't know 780 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 2: if you've looked around social media or just online in general, 781 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: but they've been very well received. 782 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 3: They were ranked number one of the. 783 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 2: Eight rivalry uniforms by SB Nation and a couple other 784 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 2: places had favorable reviews. 785 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, and there's some pretty good ones too, 786 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: but the Patriots one's pretty good. I don't know if 787 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: I like the blue color, but it's very it's very trim, 788 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: very simple, looks nice. The helmet is very similar to 789 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: the Bill's helmet. Yeah, if you look at it. So uh, 790 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: when hopefully they're they're not play in those helmets against 791 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: the Bills, so it won't be a problem. But yeah, 792 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: it's fun. It's amazing we're in this day and age 793 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: and it took this long for the NFL to start 794 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: doing this kind of thing. I listen, I'm I'm for 795 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: tradition as much as anybody. But I mean, you look 796 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: at you know, world soccer, you know the Champions League, 797 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: and oh they have a different third kit every year, 798 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 1: they got a different They had a different kit every 799 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: game I see them in. You know, there's some similarities, 800 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: but they're different every every game. You want to talk 801 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: about moving merchandise, that'll do it. But but this will 802 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: move the needle, I think for a lot of teams, right, 803 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean this there's gonna be there's always that group 804 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: of fans. You hear them on social media. I gotta 805 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: have it. They're gonna spend the money. 806 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 3: Well, you said it yesterday. Just take my money, take 807 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 3: my money. I want one. 808 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: I want one with my name and my number on it. 809 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And if you didn't, if you missed 810 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 2: the show yesterday when we revealed the Rivalry uniforms, Rivalry 811 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 2: uniform merchandise will begin to be available on September tenth. 812 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: So you got to wait three days yeah, it's three 813 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 1: days after the first game. 814 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 2: Right, But let's get back to some of the questions 815 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 2: in the mail bag, and Robbie asks any chance of 816 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 2: Charlow becoming our missing safety. I think what's spawning this question, Steve, 817 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 2: is the fact that with as shorthanded as the Bills 818 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: were in the Chicago preseason game. People saw this on 819 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: Hard Knocks, Jimmy Charloe had to play some nickel corner 820 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 2: at the end of the game because to Corey Couch 821 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 2: got injured, and Cam Lewis was already injured and out, 822 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 2: and Taron Johnson wasn't playing, so they were supremely limited 823 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 2: at the position. 824 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 3: They're like, go play nickel from the fourth quarter. 825 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this too. Kid handled it really well. 826 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: That's a tough spot, right, playing at the at the 827 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: highest level position you've never played, not knowing the defense 828 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: well enough to even get lined up asking. You could 829 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: hear him on Hard Knocks in the episode, he's like going, 830 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: what do I do? Who I got? 831 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 4: What about? 832 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: You know, he's just asking and just playing on one 833 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: hundred instinct. And hey, he looked good. You know, he 834 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: played the position. He wasn't lost. It wasn't too big 835 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: for him. You gotta love that. Coaches appreciate that, you know, 836 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 1: That's why the guy's still in the building. 837 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 838 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 2: Athletically though, I think he's a linebacker. 839 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 3: I don't like safety. 840 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: He can't run well enough to be a safety, so 841 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: I would say space. 842 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 2: But I get why he's asking it. He's you know, 843 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 2: he's seasoned playing nickel corner in a pinch and saying, oh, well, 844 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 2: if you can play nickel, you know. But yeah, and 845 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 2: Jordan Hancock went out with a shoulder injury. That's another 846 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 2: guy I forgot. They got injured in that game, and 847 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: that's why that's why Charlo had to play. Because Hancock 848 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 2: got hurt. He was the guy playing some nickel corner 849 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 2: right at that time. Michael asks in the mail bag. 850 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 2: In the long run, the Cowboys really win this trade. 851 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? Two first round picks, a player 852 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 2: that can play at defensive tackle, plus they save forty 853 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 2: five or so million that can be invested in multiple 854 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 2: other players. There'll be a much better team in two 855 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 2: or three years because of this trade. Well, I think 856 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 2: we kind of addressed that already. 857 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 3: Steve right wins now. 858 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll say this, Green Bay wins this trade 859 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: only if they win the Super Bowl the next year 860 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: or two a couple of years. They got like a 861 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: three year window now with with Micah because when those 862 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: draft when you start picking these draft picks and what 863 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: do they get? What are people gonna do? And we've 864 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: we've heard this too, what are they gonna do? If 865 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: Dallas takes those picks parlays them into arch Manning and 866 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: arch Manning is like Peyton and Eli, what are they 867 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 1: gonna do? Then you know, the Cowboys are right back 868 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: to the top after this. And then Michael Parsons and 869 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: you didn't win a super Bowl with him? How good 870 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 1: was that? I mean, that's it. The only way green 871 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: Bay wins this trade is if they win the chip. 872 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: That's it. 873 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 2: Right At the same time, though, like the first round 874 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 2: picks that the Cowboys are gonna get presumably are going 875 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 2: to be in the bottom of the round because you're 876 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 2: expecting Green Bay to be a playoff. 877 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 3: Team do very well. 878 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 2: So your first round pick, you're probably picking twenty seven, you're. 879 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: Gonna have You're gonna have two. You're gonna have four 880 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: first rounders in two years. You're two and there two. 881 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you those go a long way man, and you're 882 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 2: gonna make Hay with them for sure. 883 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. But or or you take the Cowboys twelve pick 884 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: and the green Bay and green Bay's twenty fifth pick. 885 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: They say again, I'll give you both those for the 886 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: number six pick. 887 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 888 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 1: Right, then I'll give you the number six pick and 889 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: our next year's number one for the third pick. 890 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 3: Right. 891 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you just keep doing it. 892 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 3: If there's a quarterback you're sold on. 893 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 894 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 3: You have the ability to mortgage the farm, so. 895 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 1: You So, I'm Dallas. They got a ton of stuff 896 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: for it. Two ones and a player is big. Dallas 897 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: didn't give up anything except Micah. They didn't like swap picks. Yeah, 898 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: so they still got their They're one. So I'm I'm really, 899 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm really long term in leaning towards Dallas on this. Hey, 900 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: in the short term, in the next three years, green 901 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: Bay better win it or they lose. 902 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,479 Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but we're gonna 903 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 2: talk more about this with our next guest and hour 904 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 2: number two, y'all. Sports NFL writer Charles McDonald will get 905 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 2: his take on the Micah Parsons trade, along with some 906 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 2: bills items as they get ready for a gigantic regular 907 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 2: season opener against the Baltimore Ravens. We're back in a 908 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 2: flash here on What Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health. 909 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 3: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. 910 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. 911 00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 5: Riders. 912 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 4: Chris Rasky aster with you. 913 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,320 Speaker 2: OBL Friday fan mailbag remains open, but we take a 914 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 2: break from that now to welcome in Yahoo Sports NFL 915 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 2: writer co host of the Yahoo Sports Football three zero 916 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 2: one podcast. 917 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 3: It's Charles McDonald joining us. 918 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 2: Charles, thanks for the time, as we are all just 919 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 2: about ready to ramp up to the very busy portion 920 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 2: of our lives here on the NFL calendar, and the 921 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 2: news is already getting a little crazy. Micah Parsons is 922 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 2: now a green Bay Packer, and I don't think it's 923 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: a debate at all that green Bay is the winner 924 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 2: right now. But if Dallas can make the most of 925 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 2: the two additional first round picks they got, you know, 926 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 2: in a couple of years, there's a pretty good quarterback 927 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 2: class coming out next year. I mean, Dallas basically punted 928 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 2: on twenty twenty five. 929 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 3: But there's some hope for the future there. 930 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 6: I would think, Yeah, there's some hope for the future, 931 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,879 Speaker 6: but i'del like, I got to have a hard time 932 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 6: seeing these pigs being out of the late first round 933 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 6: unless Jordan love Like suffers a big, a big injury 934 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 6: one year, and I think at that point, obviously it's 935 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 6: a little harder to pick. 936 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 7: At that point in drafting, the last defensive lineman that 937 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 7: the Cowboys picked in the late first round kind of 938 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 7: led to this trade happening because the Massie Smith pick 939 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,399 Speaker 7: that they had tried to Xecu a few years ago, 940 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 7: it's kind of become such a disaster that they needed 941 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 7: someone desperately can fix their run defense. And that's what 942 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,479 Speaker 7: Jerry was, you know, saying as one of the prime 943 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 7: reasons is why they traded Michael Parsons. Now, don't I 944 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 7: don't know if I if I totally get on board 945 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 7: with that that you know, we need to improve our 946 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 7: run defense for the playoffs. So that's why we trade 947 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 7: Michael Parsons, Because I don't know, that's a that's a 948 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 7: one of one type. 949 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 4: Of talent, really really hard player to find. Me. 950 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 7: You could you could spend another ten draft picks to 951 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 7: never find a player like Michael Parsons again. 952 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 4: So I was still stunned that that they let him go, 953 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 4: but you. 954 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 7: Know there is a chance to where like if you're 955 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 7: if you're looking at this from an optimistic point of 956 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 7: view for the Cowboys, you could say, okay, well, on offense, 957 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 7: we've invested pretty heavily in the offensive line. Again, like 958 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 7: they're rolling out another offensive line that's got multiple first 959 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 7: round picks on it. Kylas Smith is one of the 960 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 7: best offensive line in the NFL. They just drive to 961 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 7: tell the booker this year Cooper beeble in the middle, 962 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 7: so like the interior is strong. Dak Prescott last year, 963 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 7: if you just look at like his overall career like 964 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 7: that was like outlier levels of bad for him, so 965 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,760 Speaker 7: probably hoping he could rebound. Got Ceedee Lamb, got George Pickins. 966 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 7: So you know, I'm a Falcons fan, so I'm looking 967 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,280 Speaker 7: at this. Cowboys seem like, hey, this kind of reminds 968 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 7: me of some of those Matt Ryan teams where you know, 969 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 7: you can score a whole bunch of points maybe, but 970 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 7: you're not stopping to anybody on defense. And now they 971 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 7: lost like their biggest weapon to like go attack teams 972 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 7: if they're able to build the lead. So I think 973 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 7: they really hurt themselves in the short term. But if 974 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 7: you can hit you know, one or two of those 975 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 7: first round picks, he probably feel a little bit better. 976 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 4: But you know, I kind of feel like I almost 977 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 4: felt bad for Cowboys fans. 978 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 7: And can you go through Micah and Luca in a 979 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 7: pretty short span, Like one of my friends was just 980 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 7: distraught last night. 981 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 4: But they'll be okay. You know, you're not the worst 982 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 4: team in the league. 983 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 7: Like I still think they can make the playoffs this 984 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 7: year because they're often just strong, but not probably too 985 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 7: far after that. 986 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and here's one problem for Cowboy fans is also 987 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,399 Speaker 1: the fact that you make this trade, you don't get 988 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 1: anything forward for another twelve months at least, right this 989 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: season is what it is. You can't recoup any of it. 990 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: You got to keep the forty eight million a year, 991 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: I guess, right, the forty six million a year, But 992 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: you don't get better right away. I mean, with all 993 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,760 Speaker 1: due respect to Kenny Clark, the defensive tackle of getting 994 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: back from. 995 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 4: The pack, right, you. 996 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 3: Kind of got to live. 997 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 1: We got to live with this trade until you can 998 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: start to recoup your losses or your gains. 999 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 7: I guess, yeah, yeah, there's nothing you can do and 1000 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 7: it and that was one of the funny things about 1001 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 7: the press conference that Jerry had. And hey, like if 1002 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,959 Speaker 7: you if you like tune into that, if you haven't 1003 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 7: been to one of those Jerry prest conferences, like in person, 1004 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 7: consider yourself lucky because I was at the Brian Schottenhonner 1005 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 7: press conference this year and the first question was why 1006 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 7: did you hire Brian? And the answer is fifteen minutes 1007 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 7: long before another person was a question. 1008 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. He just he starts talking. 1009 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 7: He just keeps going and going and going and going, 1010 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 7: and you know, it's it's kind of funny because sometimes 1011 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 7: you start listening like, man like, I don't really know 1012 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 7: what he's talking about here, but you kind of look 1013 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 7: at the Cowboys roster over time, like man like, they 1014 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 7: still always still have like some stable of good players 1015 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 7: where they can figure something out. 1016 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 4: But like, you're right. 1017 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 7: One of the questions he got last night was, you know, 1018 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 7: why didn't you do this back in April before the draft, 1019 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 7: if this was a possibility, And he said that he 1020 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 7: hadn't really given any thought to that, like the idea 1021 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 7: that they could have traded him before the draft and 1022 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 7: gotten a big BLUs Kenny Clark and you know, a 1023 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 7: little bit more room too, you know, add players to 1024 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 7: their rosters here or even if you're just looking from 1025 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 7: the standpoint of like roster flexibility, it's hard to trade 1026 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 7: Micaeh Parksers like a week before the season if you 1027 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 7: can do it in March, when you know teams might 1028 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 7: not even have like sixty guys signed on their roster yet, 1029 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 7: and Pats a lot more fluid and they're really even 1030 00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 7: more aggressive. 1031 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 4: Probably can't. I had a little bit more than you did. 1032 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,839 Speaker 7: It seemed to me like two first round picks plus 1033 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 7: k Clark Julia Packers are probably okay paying that sure 1034 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 7: for a player like Michael Parsons. So I think they 1035 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 7: definitely fumbled the the the asset management here, and you 1036 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 7: look at and I was looking at it like the 1037 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 7: whole time, like this makes so little sense, like there's 1038 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 7: no way they're going to do it, and then lo 1039 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 7: and behold, last night they did it. 1040 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1041 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 2: The thing that maybe surprised me the most, you know, 1042 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 2: aside from the trade coming to fruition, because I thought 1043 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 2: it was going to end like the MTT Smith deal 1044 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 2: did thirty years ago, like it might take a week 1045 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 2: or two into the season, it'll get done, and whatever, whatever, 1046 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 2: But the fact that he didn't just reset the pass 1047 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 2: rusher market. This is a big step up from where TJ. 1048 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,720 Speaker 2: Watt was like three weeks ago. He was like forty 1049 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 2: one and change, and now we're at forty seven. Like, 1050 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, that's probably the agent's report of the contract. 1051 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 2: Maybe it's not truly forty seven, but I think it's 1052 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,919 Speaker 2: going to be pretty big because there's some details coming 1053 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,320 Speaker 2: out now Charles and they're saying Parsons is going to 1054 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 2: earn sixty two million dollars this year in total. And 1055 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 2: like Max Crosby who signed in the spring a three year, 1056 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 2: ninety four million dollar deal, he's gonna take two years 1057 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 2: to just make sixty four, Parsons is gonna have sixty 1058 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 2: two in his pocket after one year. 1059 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's a lot of money. It is. 1060 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 7: It's crazy because but but but these situations always really cool, 1061 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,919 Speaker 7: I think when you looked at because we don't really 1062 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 7: see guys like hit free agency anymore like this, so 1063 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 7: like like players of this caliber who the only time 1064 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 7: you're getting a chance to see, like what would it 1065 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 7: look like if owners were like actually bidding against each 1066 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 7: other for you know, player X to come and join 1067 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 7: their team. And we saw it with the Tom Watson contract. 1068 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 7: We saw like the Falcons and other teams, and the 1069 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 7: Browns popped up said, actually no three first off, take 1070 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 7: twound and thirty million dollars guaranteed, and he's yours. And 1071 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 7: with this one, like you have to work out the 1072 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 7: deal with Micah before the trade had gone through. So 1073 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 7: I'm sure that they were going back and forth with 1074 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 7: maybe a couple teams trying to get numbers here and there, 1075 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 7: and they start competing against each other and bang forty 1076 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 7: seven million dollars, which honestly to me still seems okay 1077 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 7: when you think about the age, because Michael Parson is 1078 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 7: only twenty six years old, which is insane given the 1079 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 7: productive I said, I think he's had like. 1080 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 4: Fifty two, like fifty two sacks well. 1081 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,399 Speaker 7: Every year, yeah, I mean, and this year I thought 1082 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 7: he had one of his his crazy years when playing 1083 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 7: off high ankle sprain in the back half of the season. 1084 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 7: He had eleven sacks in nine games putting off a 1085 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 7: high ankle sprain, and the Cowboys uh sack grate for 1086 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 7: like those nine games that he was in all the 1087 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 7: US to ten percent. And there's his game last last 1088 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 7: season against the Bengals where it's one of the coolest 1089 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 7: games I've ever seen where Michael Parsons that's Joe Burrow 1090 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 7: so much he gets to the backfield I think like 1091 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 7: ten or eleven times and just to watch a two 1092 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 7: great players kind of have like this tuggle war game 1093 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 7: where you know, Michael gets Joe and then Joe gets 1094 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 7: Mitha and they're going back and forth. 1095 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 4: It's really it's really really cool. 1096 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 7: It's just see like a pass to impact the game 1097 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 7: from that standpoint, which means like why you don't trade them? 1098 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,319 Speaker 7: Like how are you going to trade someone that comes 1099 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 7: back in an off of a high ankle spring where 1100 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,399 Speaker 7: usually it takes guys like a minute to get back 1101 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 7: eleven sacks and nine games and almost an extra like 1102 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,839 Speaker 7: TfL every single game. 1103 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 4: Man, Just what a player. Now, where you're looking at green. 1104 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 7: Bay, they have to be feeling amazing about this because 1105 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 7: if you look at Kenny Clark's contract and kind of 1106 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 7: how Green Bay operates, he's probably gonna get cut after 1107 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 7: the season. So they get to move on from Kenny 1108 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 7: Clark just a few months earlier than they were going 1109 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 7: to anyways. And if you think that your offense in 1110 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 7: the spot where you can potentially go on a run. 1111 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 7: You're probably looking at those picks as late first rounders. 1112 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 7: You're like, okay, so a player that we're probably gonna 1113 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 7: move on pretty soon anyway, plus two low first rounders. 1114 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 7: When we got a quarterback, Yeah, let's let's make this move. 1115 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 7: And now their defense, they got Michael Parsons Rashaun Gary 1116 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 7: off the edge. Lucas van Ness is a young guy 1117 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 7: who can benefit from this, especially when you look at 1118 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 7: their corner situation it's a little weak. It really helps 1119 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 7: you get a pass rusher like this. Now, like the 1120 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 7: spot of that defense is strong. Because Edward Hooper had 1121 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 7: a great year last year, him being good, kind of loud, 1122 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 7: Quay Welcome had a good year. Evan Williams, the rookie safety, 1123 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,479 Speaker 7: had a good year. We argue Exagul Kenny's a good player. 1124 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 7: So they couldn't finally have that the last piece that 1125 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 7: could get them like on that playoff run they've been 1126 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 7: trying to get to since Jordan Love took go over 1127 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 7: rist quarterback. 1128 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 1: And the real question here how much is Micah Parsons worth? 1129 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: Certainly he signed for forty six million years is gonna have, 1130 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: like Brownie said, sixty four million in the next year 1131 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: or so in his pocket. You think back over the 1132 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 1: years the Cowboys, remember we were talking about it earlier, 1133 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: the Herschel Walker trade where they got three ones, three two's, 1134 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: two threes and five players from the Vikings. Yeah, to 1135 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: send Herschel up there, and that's what really set the 1136 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: table for you know, winning go to going to three 1137 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 1: out of four Super Bowls and winning three. This trade 1138 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: is not that, but I think, knowing obviously that Herschel 1139 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 1: didn't go out and rule the world in Minnesota after 1140 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: he traded, Mike has got a chance to be a 1141 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 1: difference maker for Green Bay. And this is a team 1142 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: that was good last year without him, and now throw 1143 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 1: him into the mix. This really does seem to fit better, 1144 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,479 Speaker 1: even though the value is way less than the trade 1145 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 1: I just mentioned. 1146 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think this is kind of where you 1147 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 7: can see the difference of how Jerry Jones has been 1148 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 7: doing business the past couple years and where the Packers 1149 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 7: are because you know, they get ahead on the Jordan 1150 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 7: Love extension, they get ahead on some of their often 1151 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 7: divine extensions and not wait until the last minute to 1152 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 7: sign guys or you know, sometimes even get in a 1153 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 7: year ahead, like Michael Parsons wanted to do last year. 1154 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 4: So I do think there is a. 1155 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 7: Small degree of this where you're looking at how they've 1156 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 7: played the last couple off seasons. Okay, Ceedee Lamb contract 1157 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 7: coming down to the wire right before the season starts. 1158 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 7: Dak Prescott contrack gets announced like what it was like 1159 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 7: an hour before kickoff of week one last year, and 1160 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 7: that was a contract that could have been less than 1161 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 7: you know, they paid. 1162 00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 4: Fay assigned it earlier. 1163 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 7: Michael Parsons has been vote about, hey, I wanted to 1164 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 7: sign this deal last year, and that would have been 1165 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 7: a lot cheaper because you have gotten in front of 1166 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 7: Miles Scare, you got in front of t J. Watt, 1167 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 7: So those deals will be based off Mike is deal 1168 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 7: said the other way around. So when you get down 1169 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 7: to it, it might have been too expensive, like cap 1170 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 7: fives to just fit all these bloated contracts underneath the top. 1171 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 7: And I do think that that's Jerry's fault, But it 1172 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 7: ended up being the Packers benefit because they got on 1173 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 7: the Jordan Love deal early. You know, he's making less 1174 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 7: money than Dak Prescott is the Xavier Big kiddie deal 1175 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 7: they signed and ended up being a pretty big value 1176 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 7: for them too. And now they're in a room, you know, 1177 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 7: they have a space where they can just go in 1178 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 7: and cash in on this. So as long as everyone 1179 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 7: stays healthy, and you know, I do think there's a 1180 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 7: little bit concerned like, Okay, well you just pulled Ky 1181 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 7: Clark out of that defense. What happens like to your interior. 1182 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 7: But they've kind of been preparing for this, Carl Brooks, 1183 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 7: it's a deficult to talk for them. That's been pretty 1184 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 7: underrated versus run. And they also have Devonte Wyatt for 1185 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 7: a first front pitch from Georgia, who they're hoping can 1186 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 7: kind of step in this year too. So it's it's 1187 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 7: really interesting to see like where that defense could go 1188 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 7: because you got a lot of potential. Now they got 1189 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 7: a lot of speed at that linebacker room, and they 1190 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 7: think I think they found like the one player that 1191 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 7: kind of saved them from their potential cornerback. 1192 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 4: Well, so that Jared Alexanders and Baltimore. 1193 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,919 Speaker 3: Talking with Yeah Who's Sports? NFL? Writer Charles McDonald also 1194 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 3: co hosted Yeah Who's. 1195 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Sports Football three to zero one podcast, and Charles, I 1196 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 2: know you put some together recently about twenty five trends 1197 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 2: that shaped the NFL. Kind of cool look back at 1198 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 2: some of the history and stuff, but the one that 1199 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 2: caught my eye was what I feel is a growing 1200 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 2: conversation now in the league with respect to grass surface. 1201 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 2: We know how field turf essentially replaced the old school 1202 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 2: AstroTurf carpet, and everybody was gaga about that and how 1203 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 2: what a good playing surface it is. And then we 1204 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 2: see the NFLPA ratings every year and they seem to 1205 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 2: get worse and worse for field turf surfaces. 1206 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 3: And the Bill's new stadium. 1207 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 2: Is going to be natural grass, and they're going to 1208 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 2: have a heated coil system underneath it so the ground 1209 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 2: never freezes and they can grow it all winter, kind 1210 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 2: of like a lot of the European soccer stadiums. 1211 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 3: Do Could you see there being. 1212 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 2: A movement in that direction more and more even for 1213 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 2: its some existing stadiums, because that's a heck of an 1214 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 2: investment if you're not building a whole new place. I mean, 1215 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,680 Speaker 2: it's nice to say, but you know it's tough in 1216 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 2: the northern climates to pull that off. 1217 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 4: Oh oh, I know, I live up here in New 1218 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 4: York City. I used to cover the Jets, the Giants 1219 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 4: and you know those guys. 1220 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 7: They would see, like the soccer teams come over here 1221 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 7: and get s fresh grass at MetLife. 1222 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 4: People like hey, hey, hey, what's that all about? Like 1223 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 4: why can't why can't we get some of that too? 1224 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 7: And then they'll they're go and ask the owner, and 1225 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 7: the owner all of a sudden, you can't hear anymore. 1226 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 3: You know. 1227 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 4: It's it's kind of kind of funny that would work, but. 1228 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 7: Uh yeah, Steve, I want to ask you, like, what 1229 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 7: what were your kind of experiences play like the old 1230 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,440 Speaker 7: old astroturks because I was watching I actually went back 1231 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 7: and I watched like some of these old games and 1232 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 7: I was kind of laughter, like, you know, this is 1233 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 7: just like a tennis court where like it looks like 1234 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 7: a concrete slab in. 1235 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: The I played in the original I played in the 1236 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 1: original astrodome on the original astro turf, and it was yeah, 1237 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 1: it was green, you know, it was rough, it was right, 1238 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 1: it was like playing it was like playing on coarse sandpaper. 1239 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 1: It was late back then. They didn't even lay it 1240 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 1: over asphalt. They laid it over dirt and you could 1241 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 1: you could see them. You could see the undulations and 1242 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: they couldn't. You know, you can't get earth exactly right 1243 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 1: because it settled someplace, so it was a little wavy 1244 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 1: as you look across it. Down low. They had to 1245 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,120 Speaker 1: dig a ditch a trench from one side of the 1246 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 1: field to the other because they needed to be hardwired 1247 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 1: all the way across the field. So they did it 1248 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 1: right through the turf and then wrapped her form round 1249 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: a two by four and pounded that into the trench 1250 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 1: that they had put there. So you had a street 1251 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 1: curb running through the forty five yard line. Then, of 1252 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 1: course the baseball field was there, the Astro the Astros 1253 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 1: were playing in the Astrodome as well, and that was 1254 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 1: that was on the wrong side of the artificial stuff. 1255 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 1: That was the early days of just get them out 1256 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 1: there and do it. And it was you had to 1257 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 1: cover your joints up because you get all all the 1258 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,919 Speaker 1: flesh taken off of it. Yeah, and then but there's 1259 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 1: also the other side of it. You go to a 1260 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 1: place like we played in Cleveland Stadium. It was natural, 1261 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 1: but sand is natural. It was a sandbox right, totally soft, 1262 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: totally uneven, completely some grass, some not grass, some grass 1263 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 1: that was good. Most grass that was not. You'd have 1264 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,439 Speaker 1: places where there was literally looked like a sandbox where 1265 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: they came out and they were gonna put they were 1266 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 1: gonna finger quotes put sod in one of the spots. 1267 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 1: The spot was an eight foot kind of circle of 1268 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 1: sand and they dropped a two by two square of 1269 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: sod in the middle of it, and it was crazy. 1270 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 1: It was like a checker. They dropped like a welcome 1271 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 1: matt in this spot of saying like, what are you doing? 1272 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 1: It was just crazy. So, uh, there's problems with both 1273 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 1: of them. But at this level, at i say this level, 1274 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 1: the NFL level, in the current day and age, there 1275 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 1: should be a floor as to what is acceptable for 1276 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 1: these guys to play on both artificial and natural because 1277 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 1: if you don't do a floor, one of these teams 1278 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: will just one year, they'll they'll say, well, you know what, 1279 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,440 Speaker 1: we're going to do it next year. Just let it go. 1280 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 1: Just let it go. We'll get it next year when 1281 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: we resurface. You know, that's a problem. So it's it 1282 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,600 Speaker 1: was as bad as it could be. It's as good 1283 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,439 Speaker 1: as it can be, but it's also every so often 1284 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: it's as bad as it can be and you need 1285 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 1: some some consistency would be awesome. 1286 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,720 Speaker 4: You know that this from finds me. So when I 1287 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,120 Speaker 4: was in I was seventh and eighth grade. 1288 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 7: We lived in Charlotte, North Carolina, and one of the 1289 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 7: coaches for my our school like middle school musical football 1290 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 7: team was late great Dwight Clark. You know catch for 1291 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 7: nine is right because the son played on our team. 1292 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 7: And I remember our coach was showing us clips of 1293 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 7: Dwight Clark, you know, after practice one day, like, hey, 1294 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 7: you know this was this was coach Clark one day, 1295 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 7: like you know, he was. 1296 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 4: Really good wire receiving. 1297 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 7: We made the Pro Bowl and we're watching this and 1298 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 7: I'm looking at like the grass on the field, the field, 1299 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,640 Speaker 7: the playing field, right, I'm like coach, like, how the 1300 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 7: hell did they make grass look like that? 1301 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:42,280 Speaker 2: Around? 1302 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 4: And said, man, that wasn't no grass. 1303 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 7: That was man. 1304 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 4: And I was like, like, did it hurt? He was like, 1305 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 4: worst than it looks bro worst thing it looks hurt. 1306 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 4: It was. It was. 1307 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 1: It was laughable. But back then, you know, players say if. 1308 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 4: He was. 1309 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 1: Not on the radar, yeah, it was not a thing. 1310 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 1: And I was laughable. It was, Yeah, it was laughable. 1311 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 3: So things have changed, Charles. 1312 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 2: I also wanted to ask you because obviously one of 1313 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 2: the trends that still exists is the chiefs dominance in 1314 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,320 Speaker 2: the a f C. And I can tell you, like 1315 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 2: in Western New York there is a high level of 1316 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 2: Chiefs fatigue, and I'm sure there's some of that elsewhere 1317 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 2: in the league as well, because year after year they're 1318 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 2: representing the a f C. And I'm old enough to 1319 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 2: remember when Steve's team developed, there was Bill's fatigue around 1320 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 2: the league. 1321 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 3: Also, just going back again. 1322 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 2: To the Super Bowl every year, my question to you 1323 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 2: is how long. 1324 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 3: Is this going to keep going? 1325 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 7: I okay, last year, Okay, so remember remember when I 1326 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 7: so when they beat the forty nine ers in the 1327 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 7: Super Bowl two years ago and people were saying, oh man, 1328 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 7: you know that that team was bad. 1329 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 4: You know that that team wasn't very good and they 1330 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 4: sometime managed to win that that team was still pretty good. 1331 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 7: Last year's team, now that was team where you can 1332 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 7: look at and say, okay, this this is crazy that 1333 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 7: they can't like they couldn't really do anything on offense 1334 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 7: outside of what Mahomes was able to give him. 1335 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 4: And luckily it's a lot because when you go back. 1336 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 7: You look at some of their efficiency stats last year, 1337 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 7: they still like barely finished like a top ten offense 1338 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 7: while they're averaging like, you know, like three points something 1339 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 7: yard per rush. Kareem Hunt looks like he's got like 1340 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,599 Speaker 7: ankle weights around him when he's trying to get around 1341 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,599 Speaker 7: the fields. Get exactly was blocked them up even more? 1342 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 7: Where she rises hurt Zavie Worthy still figuring out. So 1343 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 7: what's what scared me? The fact is like they work 1344 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 7: on a lucky last year obviously to get that record 1345 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 7: and get the home field adage, because they were really 1346 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 7: scraping by some of these games. And I remember when Buffaloes, right, 1347 01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 7: and then they played Buffalo in the regular season last 1348 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 7: year and Buffalo beat them pretty handily. 1349 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 4: And then you know playoffs happening, the games the game. 1350 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 7: But the fact that they that Mahomes was able to 1351 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,639 Speaker 7: figure that out last season, that's kind of scary because 1352 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 7: I would imagine that's probably about the worst it could 1353 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 7: possibly look with him at quarterback. And now, but she's 1354 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 7: got the six games attention, he'll be back at some point. 1355 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,639 Speaker 7: They drafted Draft Simmons in the first round. I left 1356 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 7: tackle who by all accounts and pay outstanding this preseason. 1357 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,600 Speaker 7: So if that was the floor, man, you know, I 1358 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 7: Tom Brady went a decade about whenning Super Bowl, so 1359 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 7: it could happen to Mahomes too. But I would be 1360 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 7: stunned if he's not, like in that conversation just about 1361 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,400 Speaker 7: every single year, if they were able to get to 1362 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 7: the super Bowl with that offense fast last year, it's 1363 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 7: not gonna get that much worse than that because it 1364 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,160 Speaker 7: really can't. Like I don't really know how many other 1365 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,000 Speaker 7: quarterbacks to let it offense to the playoffs, let alone 1366 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 7: super Bowl. 1367 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 4: So he's he's still got it. 1368 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,840 Speaker 2: Charles, Thanks for the time, We appreciate it, and good 1369 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 2: luck getting through this season. We all know we're gonna 1370 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,639 Speaker 2: be working real hard for the next four five months. 1371 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 4: You sure are. I hope you run you guys at 1372 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 4: some points this season, all right, take. 1373 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 2: Care of Charles's Charles McDonald joining us from Yahoo's Sports 1374 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 2: co host of Yahoo Sports Football three to zero one 1375 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,840 Speaker 2: podcast and also a frequent NFL writer on the site. 1376 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 3: And that was kind of cool with the trend rite 1377 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 3: up that he did. 1378 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 2: Steve, because it was kind of going through the history 1379 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,640 Speaker 2: of the last twenty five years of the league, like 1380 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 2: the rise and fall of the Greatest Show on Turf, 1381 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:30,520 Speaker 2: and a bunch of other you know, quote unquote many dynasties, 1382 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:33,679 Speaker 2: something I actually forgot about. 1383 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff in there. 1384 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 1: And he gets into some of the technicalities as well, 1385 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 1: about the rule changes and stuff. 1386 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 4: But it was. 1387 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 1: You look back, and it's funny because we talk about 1388 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 1: all we always talk have a couple of shows every 1389 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,240 Speaker 1: off season about the rule changes, what they're gonna mean, 1390 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do, the the continued evolution of the kickoff, 1391 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,880 Speaker 1: the special team's rules. And to sit here now and 1392 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,799 Speaker 1: then dougal back and look at what happened, it's pretty startling. 1393 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,479 Speaker 1: I mean, like even the surfaces we were just talking 1394 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 1: about a minute ago. You're hard pressed to find a 1395 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:12,599 Speaker 1: bad field. 1396 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:12,800 Speaker 4: Now. 1397 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,479 Speaker 1: La Coliseum used to be bad, Yeah, so did the 1398 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:21,679 Speaker 1: Oakland Alameda Coliseum was awful, the old Cleveland Brown Stadium downtown, 1399 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,679 Speaker 1: the mistake by the Lake was horrible. 1400 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 4: Uh. 1401 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,720 Speaker 1: And now you know when the team has gone overseas, 1402 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 1: when they played in Tottenham Hotspur, that field was is 1403 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,960 Speaker 1: not fel terrible. Right, So if you see you here 1404 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 1: once in a while of fields like that, But for 1405 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 1: the most part, there is more of a consistent level 1406 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,719 Speaker 1: playing field everywhere you go from stadium to stadium. Miami's 1407 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,600 Speaker 1: got a Miami has great surface down there, you know, 1408 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 1: so does Jacksonville, So does Charlotte, you know, Houston, They've 1409 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 1: all got great facilities and great Tampa Bay, you know, 1410 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,120 Speaker 1: Sofi has got a great stadium. But you know, I'm 1411 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's a turf field though, right, So they're 1412 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:11,639 Speaker 1: all getting more consistent, which is at least one way. 1413 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,840 Speaker 2: To Yeah, we have to take a break here, but 1414 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,800 Speaker 2: when we come back, we crack open the mail bag again. 1415 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 2: So if you have a question on the team, the roster, 1416 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 2: the upcoming Week one matchup, you can send it to 1417 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 2: us at One Bill's Live. 1418 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,519 Speaker 3: We're Twitter side of the mail bag only. 1419 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,840 Speaker 2: No phone calls today, but we take a break here 1420 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 2: and we answer more of those questions next here on 1421 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio, Bunds. 1422 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,639 Speaker 3: Live and Friday obl Friday. 1423 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,679 Speaker 2: Find a mail bag is open on the Twitter side 1424 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,320 Speaker 2: of things. You got a question tweeted at us, said 1425 01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live today. As we are radio only and 1426 01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:00,920 Speaker 2: a little technically limited, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you conversation. 1427 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 3: There with Charles McDonald's just missed the last segment. 1428 01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:08,599 Speaker 2: You can re racket later today on Buffalo bills dot 1429 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 2: Com at the bottom of the homepage. About a half 1430 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 2: hour after we are off the air, wanted to dive 1431 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 2: back into the mailbag because there was kind of a 1432 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 2: cool question here and it comes from Ronsky, who says, 1433 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 2: regarding yesterday's conversation about the k gun, a caller brought 1434 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 2: it up. 1435 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:26,800 Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be. 1436 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 2: Fun if Joe Brady could scheme up at least one 1437 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,880 Speaker 2: drive in the last game at the Ralph against the 1438 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,840 Speaker 2: Jets to pay homage to the nineties glory days. 1439 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 3: Go Bill, Steve, How tough would that be to pull 1440 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 3: that off? That would be pretty cool. 1441 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,040 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you to I don't know how they 1442 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 1: could pull it off, but they could do it like easy, 1443 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,800 Speaker 1: peasy lift. They could have done that day one of 1444 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:59,120 Speaker 1: their offseason workouts. It's only one formation and like six 1445 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 1: or seven plays and you just go as fast as 1446 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,559 Speaker 1: you can. You got plays that are good. They got 1447 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:08,719 Speaker 1: answers for a lot of defenses. You know, three wides, 1448 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 1: one tight and one back and you and you literally 1449 01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,679 Speaker 1: snap the balls fast. You can just run that. Next play, 1450 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 1: Josh calls it on the flies, You're lining up and 1451 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,360 Speaker 1: you go. It's easy to do. I don't know that 1452 01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 1: it would be that successful, but you know, nevertheless, Josh 1453 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 1: and the guys could probably run it pretty good. It's 1454 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:27,960 Speaker 1: it was not. 1455 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:32,240 Speaker 5: It was laughing. 1456 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:39,439 Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't hard to run. But like I said, Luminous, 1457 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't. Yeah, you didn't have, you know, ninety thousand 1458 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,439 Speaker 1: plays on your play sheet. You had like fifteen or twenty, 1459 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:52,200 Speaker 1: and fifteen of the twenty were the same as they 1460 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 1: were every week, So you line up and go pretty fast. 1461 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 1: You didn't have too much to think about. 1462 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be kind of cool. 1463 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 2: I just don't know how quickly it would be recognized, 1464 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 2: Like you would know what you're looking at because you 1465 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,120 Speaker 2: ran it. But I'm wondering how many fans in the 1466 01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 2: stands would. 1467 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 3: Be like, oh, look at that. 1468 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,360 Speaker 2: Maybe based on the speed at which they would call 1469 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,240 Speaker 2: the plays might tip people off. I'm hoping it would 1470 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:24,200 Speaker 2: tip me off if that happened, But that would be 1471 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 2: that would be that would be an added dose of 1472 01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 2: nostalgia to the to the week game. 1473 01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I'll tell you that that would, uh, that would 1474 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,320 Speaker 1: bring a tier to a few old guy's eyes, that's 1475 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:35,760 Speaker 1: for sure. 1476 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one round Sie. I kind of 1477 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:38,880 Speaker 3: like that idea. 1478 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,120 Speaker 2: I'll see if I can't get that passed along to 1479 01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:47,120 Speaker 2: the right people. Jacob asks the Bills run a four 1480 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 2: two five as their base defense. I don't understand how 1481 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,200 Speaker 2: Michael Hoyt fits in when he is on the field. 1482 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,800 Speaker 2: Will he line up in place of a defensive end, 1483 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 2: one of the linebackers, or in place of tarn Johnson. 1484 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,880 Speaker 2: Nice versatility, but who has to be on the bench 1485 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 2: for him to be on the field. Well, Jacob, that's 1486 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,560 Speaker 2: the beauty of it. The opponent doesn't know. He's a 1487 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,640 Speaker 2: movable chess piece. He could be in for any of 1488 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:11,240 Speaker 2: those cats. 1489 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. He gives you some versatility in his 1490 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 1: ability to cover or to rush and where you line 1491 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:26,040 Speaker 1: him give the core long tip on the defense. So yeah, 1492 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,000 Speaker 1: his his ability to do all of that is different. 1493 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,840 Speaker 1: He's uh, he's a he's a good pass rusher and 1494 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,439 Speaker 1: no question, but he also could he can move around 1495 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 1: the front. He can come from you know, Bernard or 1496 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:45,880 Speaker 1: Mulano's spot or wherever. So yeah, he's the unpredictability of 1497 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:46,599 Speaker 1: it is a plus. 1498 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 2: I know, when we had him on set with US, 1499 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,640 Speaker 2: I was kind of likening his body transformation to that 1500 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,559 Speaker 2: of Lorenzo Alexander, who was a former lineman and then 1501 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,479 Speaker 2: turned into a pass rushing linebacker. He was a defensive 1502 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 2: tackle when he first started with the Rams, and then 1503 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,880 Speaker 2: you know, dropped forty to fifty pounds and became an 1504 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:14,040 Speaker 2: edge guy or you know, a linebacker type. Yeah, I 1505 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,720 Speaker 2: mean you and I have talked about it, Steve. I 1506 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 2: was I'm kind of disappointed we don't get to see 1507 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:19,519 Speaker 2: him for six games. 1508 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing he does at a high level. 1509 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,679 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who is a between 1510 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,640 Speaker 1: athlete who doesn't rush the passer that well, but he 1511 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,880 Speaker 1: can run and cover a little bit and you can 1512 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 1: move him around and they have to respect it. No, 1513 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,760 Speaker 1: he's a good pass rusher and he's a good he's 1514 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 1: a good defender, can pursue. So it's not I think 1515 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,599 Speaker 1: his you're you're kind of chopping him off the top. 1516 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,719 Speaker 1: You know, his high end is a very good pass rusher. 1517 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,839 Speaker 1: So you throw him on the other side of Bosa 1518 01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:01,519 Speaker 1: and kick Rousseau down inside or vice versa. And you 1519 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:07,840 Speaker 1: got three really fast, slippery pass rushers on the field, and. 1520 01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,559 Speaker 3: Your other guy is probably at Oliver or T. J. Sanders. 1521 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,400 Speaker 1: He rushes the passer every well as good as every 1522 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:18,920 Speaker 1: bit as good as Epanessa and Rousseau, if not better son. 1523 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 1: And the fact that it doesn't get sacked numbers like 1524 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 1: that is because they move him around so much and 1525 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,120 Speaker 1: ask him to do different things. But let that caliber 1526 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:26,719 Speaker 1: pass rusher. 1527 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,600 Speaker 2: Let's take that a step further, because we saw what 1528 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,480 Speaker 2: Hoyt was doing in the preseason. 1529 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:33,880 Speaker 3: I mean he was all over the place. 1530 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:38,240 Speaker 2: He was reaking havoc, causing problems, hurrying throws, got a 1531 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 2: sack or so. And that's without scheming anything. That's just 1532 01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:46,559 Speaker 2: one winning one on one battles. So when Bobby Babbage 1533 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,760 Speaker 2: and Sean McDermott can apply scheme with that skill set, like, 1534 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,519 Speaker 2: what do you think we should expect when he does 1535 01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:55,040 Speaker 2: get back? 1536 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're gonna get an uptick in big plays. 1537 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 1: You know you're gonna get an uptick. Guys, all of 1538 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 1: a sudden, somebody you got a free rusher on the quarterback. 1539 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:07,599 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You're getting quick pressure because 1540 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:14,200 Speaker 1: your ability to scheme him means you can give the 1541 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,559 Speaker 1: quarterback what he thinks he's gonna get, and then it's 1542 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,559 Speaker 1: not what he thinks he's gonna get. And that's when 1543 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,840 Speaker 1: you get a quarterback unaware. You know, you get the 1544 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,680 Speaker 1: free runner. You got the he sets the protection the 1545 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,360 Speaker 1: wrong way. That kind of thing happens more. Got a 1546 01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,800 Speaker 1: guy like Hoyt on the field. I'm not saying it's 1547 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,120 Speaker 1: gonna happen every time, but certainly they can catch him. 1548 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,280 Speaker 1: Catch quarterbacks thinking one thing and giving him another, and 1549 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 1: it turns into at least an incompletion, if not a 1550 01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 1: sack or a sack strip fumble. So that's what you're 1551 01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,040 Speaker 1: looking for with a with a piece like hot when 1552 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:49,240 Speaker 1: you move him around, and then it just builds on 1553 01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:54,960 Speaker 1: itself because they don't know everything he can do like 1554 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:55,280 Speaker 1: you do. 1555 01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:55,519 Speaker 4: Now. 1556 01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 1: Certainly you know they're gonna find out over the course 1557 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,360 Speaker 1: of time. But man, oh man, when he comes back 1558 01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,519 Speaker 1: right out of the gate, the Bills will have a 1559 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:07,120 Speaker 1: new tool in their toolbox that nobody has seen. And 1560 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,439 Speaker 1: if the rest of their defense is doing more than 1561 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 1: a hold in their own without Hoyt, this will add 1562 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,960 Speaker 1: a wrinkle of a degree of difficulty that'll just make 1563 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 1: it that much more effective. And you know, you know, 1564 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,120 Speaker 1: if everything spins right and this defense gets back to 1565 01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,560 Speaker 1: where it was, you know when Leslie Frasier was the coordinator. 1566 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,400 Speaker 1: You know, all those years, it was never spectacular, but 1567 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 1: it was always top five, right right, this defense, you know, 1568 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,559 Speaker 1: even if it's just top ten, if it's spectacular once 1569 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,840 Speaker 1: in a while, you're better off. Right, So you get 1570 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,120 Speaker 1: that timely play rather than just the same thing from 1571 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,040 Speaker 1: fourth quarter to overtime, from first quarter to all the 1572 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,519 Speaker 1: way to overtime. You know, every so often you get 1573 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 1: that wave where all of a sudden they can't stay 1574 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,360 Speaker 1: on the field after three consecutive series, you know, you've 1575 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,640 Speaker 1: got a run going defensively, so that that kind of 1576 01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 1: never happened even when they were top five defense. This 1577 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,120 Speaker 1: one you might get hot streaks like that, right. 1578 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 2: And the other thing too, is like last year, I 1579 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 2: think they only had like thirty eight sacks. 1580 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 3: They were eighteenth in the league. 1581 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,160 Speaker 2: But in twenty three they were like fourth in sacks 1582 01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,639 Speaker 2: with fifty three, and that was with aut von Miller 1583 01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,720 Speaker 2: who was out injured for the whole year. Pretty much 1584 01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,040 Speaker 2: it's with Leonard Floyd and Greg Russeau as your primary 1585 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,800 Speaker 2: pass rushers, and they had fifty three sacks that year 1586 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,479 Speaker 2: and now, so I'm trying to and I know you 1587 01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,840 Speaker 2: can't compare year to year, but I'm trying to apply 1588 01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,639 Speaker 2: that group in comparison to the group you have now. 1589 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,679 Speaker 3: And you've got it. I think you've got it beat 1590 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:37,680 Speaker 3: by a mile. 1591 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:44,240 Speaker 2: Because you have Bosa at the outset with Rousseau, and 1592 01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 2: then Hoyt enters the fray in week eight because week 1593 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:53,320 Speaker 2: seven's a bye, and if TJ. Sanders keeps progressing like 1594 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,800 Speaker 2: we saw through the course of the preseason, you also 1595 01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,280 Speaker 2: have interior rush behind Ed Oliver. 1596 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:03,760 Speaker 3: So to me, I think the numbers you're able to 1597 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:04,679 Speaker 3: throw at your. 1598 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,720 Speaker 2: Pass rush are vastly superior to what you even had 1599 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,160 Speaker 2: two years ago when you had fifty three sacks. 1600 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,760 Speaker 1: Right, That's that's right. It's a higher level across the 1601 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,720 Speaker 1: board ends and some and some higher end talent at 1602 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:21,479 Speaker 1: the top. So yeah, I mean that's all if you know, 1603 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,639 Speaker 1: optimistically speaking, yeah. 1604 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,000 Speaker 3: I mean we're assuming a great again. 1605 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, But you know, Bosa's got to stay healthy, Hoyt's 1606 01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:29,840 Speaker 1: got to get on the field, you know, t J. 1607 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,680 Speaker 1: Sanders got to come through and play like play and 1608 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:36,840 Speaker 1: steady and more consistent. You know, Landon Jackson's got to 1609 01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 1: be a part of the equation. Epeness and Rousseau have 1610 01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,400 Speaker 1: to take another step forward. Russeau, it's gonna be I 1611 01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,720 Speaker 1: would expect him to take a small step forward like 1612 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,280 Speaker 1: he has taken every single year of his career. So 1613 01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 1: all that stuff is out there, but it's we've got 1614 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:52,479 Speaker 1: a white weight and see as to whether what it 1615 01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,439 Speaker 1: looks like when it if if and when it does. 1616 01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,519 Speaker 2: Alex from the Mailbag asks, do you think what the 1617 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,000 Speaker 2: d line choice is made for the fifty three? We 1618 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 2: could see more fifty front than we saw last year, 1619 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:11,600 Speaker 2: especially against run heavy teams. It's not terribly popular, but 1620 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,120 Speaker 2: for a team that struggled against the run as much 1621 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 2: as the Bills did at times last year. I think 1622 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,479 Speaker 2: we saw it on a series or two in games. 1623 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,479 Speaker 2: Might just see it in Week one. 1624 01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't know if you see it in 1625 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,280 Speaker 1: Week one here. Yeah. Baltimore is one of those teams 1626 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:37,040 Speaker 1: that's run heavy, but Lamar throws it all over the yard. Right, 1627 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,040 Speaker 1: you can't really run a fifty front against Baltimore as 1628 01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,439 Speaker 1: good as they run. Their offense was off the charts 1629 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 1: last year. And if you try and if you try 1630 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 1: and throw eight guys at the box, throw fifty front 1631 01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,880 Speaker 1: against them with three linebackers. You know, eight guys in 1632 01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,720 Speaker 1: the box, let's go, you know, let's beat them up. 1633 01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,040 Speaker 1: They'll drop back and throw it fifty times and they'll 1634 01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,679 Speaker 1: beat you because they're good enough to do that. Lamar 1635 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,120 Speaker 1: is good enough to do that. So you've got to 1636 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,719 Speaker 1: the key is can you stop the run with six 1637 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,559 Speaker 1: guys in the box. That's when that's where you want 1638 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,200 Speaker 1: to be. You want to stop the room with six 1639 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,880 Speaker 1: guys in the box and then play, you know, be 1640 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 1: able to cover both ends. So really what you need 1641 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,320 Speaker 1: is is that kind of philosophy. You know, fifty front 1642 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,640 Speaker 1: is great, but you're automatically, you're automatically got seven or 1643 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,760 Speaker 1: eight guys in the box, and you really ideally would 1644 01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:31,880 Speaker 1: like six guys in the box and be able to 1645 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,280 Speaker 1: stop the run with guy with the secondary kind of 1646 01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:38,879 Speaker 1: crashing in when they need to. That's a bit, particularly 1647 01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:42,400 Speaker 1: against the team as effective as Baltimore is offensively, most 1648 01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,559 Speaker 1: people say, hey, if they're not, we're gonna we're gonna act. 1649 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,200 Speaker 1: Invite them to throw the football. You want to do 1650 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,839 Speaker 1: that with Baltimore. You might want to do that with Cleveland, 1651 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, you might want to do that with the 1652 01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,600 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. You know you're not going to do that 1653 01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 1: with the Baltimore Ravens or the Chief Beefs or the 1654 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:01,439 Speaker 1: Bills for that matter. 1655 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are a conundrum, that's for sure. 1656 01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,639 Speaker 2: We have to step aside. Take a break here when 1657 01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,400 Speaker 2: we come back. Some final questions out of the mail 1658 01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:17,599 Speaker 2: bag and an interesting jersey signing by one Tom Brady. 1659 01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,080 Speaker 3: We'll tell you about it when we return. 1660 01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,720 Speaker 2: Here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's 1661 01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. 1662 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,400 Speaker 5: All right, back here on one seconds to go. 1663 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,040 Speaker 3: Here on a Friday, and we're radio only. 1664 01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,400 Speaker 2: Just to give you a warning for next Monday show, 1665 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,360 Speaker 2: we're flipping the medium. We're gonna be TV only on 1666 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 2: Labor Day Monday, so we will be on the air, 1667 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:50,719 Speaker 2: but only on the TV side. 1668 01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:52,240 Speaker 3: On MSG. 1669 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:58,040 Speaker 2: Wanted to pass this along to everybody, so this showed 1670 01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,120 Speaker 2: up on social media. 1671 01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:01,519 Speaker 3: Tom Brady is. 1672 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:09,960 Speaker 2: Presented with a new Bill's Rivalryes jersey while he's sitting 1673 01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,800 Speaker 2: at a table and they're like, hey, what do you 1674 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:14,679 Speaker 2: think of the jersey? 1675 01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:15,439 Speaker 4: This? 1676 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,320 Speaker 2: That and the other to his credit, he says the 1677 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:22,040 Speaker 2: Bill's rivalry jersey is a quote, top tier jersey. He's like, 1678 01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,880 Speaker 2: Buffalo isn't my thing, and I know a lot of 1679 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,720 Speaker 2: Buffalo fans don't like me, but this is a top 1680 01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:30,240 Speaker 2: tier jersey. And then the guy that handed it to 1681 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:31,800 Speaker 2: him asked him to sign it. 1682 01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,360 Speaker 3: He looks it up on his phone. 1683 01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:38,679 Speaker 2: Steve, because he probably didn't know it by heart, signs 1684 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,280 Speaker 2: his name on the one of the seventeen Allen jersey, 1685 01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:46,519 Speaker 2: and then on the seven goes with the thirty three 1686 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,719 Speaker 2: and three record versus Buffalo. 1687 01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:53,280 Speaker 3: What a tool. 1688 01:26:53,920 --> 01:27:00,680 Speaker 1: I hate him. That's all right, though, Hey, if if 1689 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,519 Speaker 1: they're going to hand the guy at jersey of another 1690 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:03,120 Speaker 1: team and he. 1691 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:06,519 Speaker 2: Can do what he wants with it, right, we've all 1692 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:07,080 Speaker 2: expected that. 1693 01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,559 Speaker 1: I've been asked to sign some pretty suspect. How much 1694 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys stuff do you think I've signed? 1695 01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:11,400 Speaker 7: Right? 1696 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,160 Speaker 5: So do you you know? 1697 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,040 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you don't have the same animal. 1698 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,559 Speaker 1: Yeah I don't have I don't have that hammer to drop, 1699 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:22,080 Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, it's I don't have a problem 1700 01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 1: with that. He can do it. 1701 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:28,360 Speaker 3: Okay. I guess we should have expected nothing less. 1702 01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:33,200 Speaker 2: We should remind everybody if you have been following along 1703 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,880 Speaker 2: with the top the NFL Top one hundred, the top 1704 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,960 Speaker 2: ten are going to be revealed on Monday at eight 1705 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:46,320 Speaker 2: pm on NFL Network, and they revealed who the players are. 1706 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 2: They just did it in alphabetical order and they are 1707 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:58,639 Speaker 2: as follows. Josh Allen, Saquon Barkley, Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, 1708 01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:07,560 Speaker 2: Mile Garrett, Derrick, Henry, Lamar Jackson, Justin Jefferson, Patrick Mahomes, 1709 01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,360 Speaker 2: and Patrick Sirtan. 1710 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:14,280 Speaker 1: Thoughts, it's a good group. 1711 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,000 Speaker 3: It's a pretty good top ten. 1712 01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,400 Speaker 1: I think it's hard hard to argue with him. I mean, yeah, 1713 01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,599 Speaker 1: sir Tan, maybe maybe the guy that I would think 1714 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:26,439 Speaker 1: would be number ten, but yeah, yeah, Saquan, Joe Burrow, 1715 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,680 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, Miles Garrett, and Miles Garrett'll be in the 1716 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 1: top three, you know, top four. 1717 01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,479 Speaker 3: Who do you think one is? 1718 01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:38,080 Speaker 1: Might be Miles, might be Miles. 1719 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,519 Speaker 2: Have you ever stood next to him and looked at 1720 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:41,080 Speaker 2: his arms? 1721 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's ahay in my thighs, dude. 1722 01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,560 Speaker 2: And I know I'm not a one percenter, but that 1723 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,680 Speaker 2: guy is even like a step up from the one percenters, 1724 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:51,880 Speaker 2: if that's impossible. 1725 01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's He's an amazing athlete and he plays like 1726 01:28:55,800 --> 01:29:02,080 Speaker 1: an So yeah, that which makes guys like Dion Dawkins 1727 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:03,480 Speaker 1: ever more valuable. 1728 01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:04,800 Speaker 3: Right, Amen to that. 1729 01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,920 Speaker 2: So that's the NFL Top one hundred, Top ten, airing Monday, 1730 01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,320 Speaker 2: eight pm on NFL Network. 1731 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,960 Speaker 3: Steve and I are back on Monday. 1732 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:15,439 Speaker 1: We're hours. 1733 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:20,160 Speaker 2: We started noon, started noon, but we're TV only on MSG, 1734 01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,400 Speaker 2: so we'll see you at noon on Monday. Enjoy your 1735 01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:23,519 Speaker 2: Labor Day weekend, everybody,