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Speaker 2: Get carbs and fats and you know whatever is easy

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Speaker 2: Probably not invited. We're not cool enough yet. Angelo my

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The only time I trim it is like if

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Speaker 5: A year you shoot yearlings?

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The big takeaways were when you're out there, throw it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And me and Scott kind of had this. Both

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Speaker 1: Good dude, he was a goat. Just as far as walking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get back, But I just had that kind

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but man, it was it was frustrating. It was

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Speaker 4: The rock was at fifty two.

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Speaker 5: So the patience which we also saw him alive.

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Speaker 1: We set up and he came.

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Speaker 2: We were about seventy yards dish from a meadow, edge

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Idaho hurt because I screwed up. Wyoming hurt just because

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Speaker 2: And I think we've stayed in touch with Justin. They've

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Speaker 4: So I saw him. I'm glad that. I'm glad. I'm

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Speaker 1: Same exact time. They all killed within the first five hours.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you know, like honestly, you.

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Speaker 6: We thought it should have been crazy. That wasn't. It

443
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 6: wasn't the day there was no moon popped off.

444
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,119
Speaker 4: No moon cycle. It was weird, like all the all

445
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 4: the all the things leaning towards oh man, this is

446
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,800
Speaker 4: gonna be good. Yeah, it's not so crazy crazy.

447
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,640
Speaker 6: It was one day where all the all the stars aligned. Yeah,

448
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 6: but they didn't do anything.

449
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 4: Didn't do anything.

450
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 2: It was like rain, a little bit of snow, some sleet,

451
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 2: no moon, cloudy all day, cloudy all night, fifty degrees.

452
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 4: And that was a day we saw nothing and it's

453
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 4: there nothing. Those are the most painful days too, because

454
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 4: you're your hopes are so high, like no matter what

455
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 4: happened the days before, you're like, oh man, that this

456
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 4: was wrong and that was wrong. You get out there,

457
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong and it's supposed to be a good

458
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,959
Speaker 4: day for it, and nothing's happening. You're like, there's no there.

459
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 4: Elk don't exist. It exists, at least not right here. Stephen.

460
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 2: Father Stephen was out there was in Colorado or New

461
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 2: Mexico where he said he saw the he was.

462
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 1: There was just like a little old shepherd shack.

463
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 2: He said he kind of went into it and he

464
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 2: said like in somebody had like etched into the walls

465
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 2: that said elk don't exist.

466
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 4: So good, it's so true.

467
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, dude, the on Matt Hunt to the

468
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 2: lack of sleep, you know, because we would get back

469
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 2: at nine o'clock, we'd have dinner. Old Judy would cook

470
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 2: us all dinner we'd have and then at five am

471
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 2: you'd wake up. So I mean you were eating dinner

472
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 2: at nine, getting a bed at ten ten thirty, and

473
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 2: then the generator kicks on and the lights are on

474
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 2: your tent and the tent it was awesome. You had

475
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 2: a little wood burning stove, but we didn't quite have

476
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 2: it nailed down. The first two or three nights would

477
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: be one hundred degrees when we go to sleep, and

478
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 2: you'd wake up at like twenty eight degrees. Yeah, it was,

479
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 2: and on our fifty three or fifty degrees sleeping bags.

480
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 2: At one point, I was wearing sweatpants, a sweatshirt over

481
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: my ears. I had the thing zipped and that mesh

482
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 2: thing over my face.

483
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: It was that cold, and you'd.

484
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 2: Kind of like ball up a little bit. Yeah, and

485
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: then you go to put your feet like stretch out,

486
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 2: and your feet would be.

487
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 4: In the cold ROAs bag.

488
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 2: Scott got sick. Scott had to live on DayQuil for

489
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: a couple of days. Oh no, you rallied first that

490
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: one day.

491
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 4: He was in a dark place.

492
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 6: The sickest I was was the morning we hiked twelve miles.

493
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we hiked twelve miles in just an the morning.

494
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 4: It's it's it's so bad just being like that moderate

495
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 4: sick and you just start you could tell.

496
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 6: It wasn't moderate. I was really sick, Like it was

497
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 6: one of.

498
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: Those that you we hunted out, but we didn't see

499
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: anything on the way out to a point, hunted around

500
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: and then had to walk all that back and it's

501
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 2: like ten to eleven in the morning, and you knew

502
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 2: we weren't going to see anything.

503
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: And it was just just a trudge.

504
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 4: There was no real steep anything, but.

505
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 6: It was just it was just a long lot of distance,

506
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 6: a lot of distance, and it was hot.

507
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: It was like seventy degrees by that point.

508
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 6: It was I felt bad enough. If I was home,

509
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 6: I wouldn't have come in. I would have laid on

510
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 6: the couch all day.

511
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like you you have to immediately start moving or

512
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 4: you won't do anything all day.

513
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

514
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 4: If you don't start immediately, you're gonna lay on the

515
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 4: couch all day.

516
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: That That was the only day Scott went back and

517
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: took a nap in the tent for like two hours.

518
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: And he took a two or three hour nap.

519
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 6: Oh man, and I fell asleep the one time we

520
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 6: sat down in the morning twice.

521
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: Oh no, once in the morning, once in afternoon.

522
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 6: No, I'm saying when we sat down once that morning,

523
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 6: I fell asleep probably the whole time we were there.

524
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 4: At Cricket Cricket Ridge or whatever it was. Yeah.

525
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: So, man, I after having such a good September last

526
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: year and then such a crappy one this year, and

527
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: I mean there was you know, other than the miscalculation,

528
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: you know, the patients.

529
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: On the first trip, we should have had something down.

530
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 4: It was my fault.

531
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: The second one was there was nothing we.

532
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: Could do, you know, like the whole That's what's hard

533
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: about elk hunting is you could do everything you know

534
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: that is right, be in there in the right area

535
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 2: and it's just there's still some luck to it.

536
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 5: R Oh, yeah, well you don't know where the like

537
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 5: even that the one you shot through the bush like

538
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 5: that bull snuck around us.

539
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we thought we had the right area. Thought he'd

540
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: come right. He came and he went quick and went high.

541
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: Did not expect that bird had the perfect angle. The

542
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: shot on born and raised in ours is like that's

543
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: the bird's angle, he said. He just set the camera

544
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 2: and laid down, Like, dude, I was like eight yards.

545
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 5: It was so cool.

546
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: I mean, and I was probably thirteen to fourteen yards,

547
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: except for he was up the hill.

548
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 4: There was a bush.

549
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: He was frontal, and there was a couple of times

550
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: where he would go to walk, and so I would

551
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: draw and he would stop, and so I'd hold until

552
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: he'd look away, and then I put down, and then

553
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: I drew.

554
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: I drew three times. Then I'm a third time. I

555
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: was like, I get through that bush.

556
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 4: You can't get the bush.

557
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: I should have just shot over the bush, honestly, because

558
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: it was still I think would have Yah would have.

559
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, But you know, you.

560
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 2: Hindsight man, you'd play all those That's the hardest part

561
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: about archeries.

562
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: You play those stupid games. Man, if I would have

563
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: if I'd have done this, if I had have moved there,

564
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: if I would have done this.

565
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 4: You're just like and in total, how long do you

566
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 4: think you were standing like with like with that bull

567
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: looking at you? To ten minutes?

568
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: Probably when you think, yeah, I mean, he could have

569
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 2: walked either way, and he probably would have. He probably

570
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't have gone too far because bird was right there.

571
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: And that was the hard part too, is if you

572
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: walked to the.

573
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 4: Right one step and scene or smelled or something and

574
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 4: then been gone the one.

575
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: If you would have kept going to the right, I

576
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: mean I couldn't have shot because Trent I was already

577
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: like Trent and Jess were just like right here, so

578
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: I would draw and have to stop if he was

579
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: going to walk, And then if he would have went left,

580
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: there would have been no shot. But if he would

581
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: have came around, you know, it's just so it's awesome,

582
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: it's so cool to be in those situations.

583
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 5: But man, you just be yourself set up for a

584
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 5: long September. Yeah, because that bool was the first morning,

585
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 5: first morning, and then a few days and then you

586
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 5: have the next one and then from there it's just

587
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 5: it's nothing well, and that was the hard part there too,

588
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 5: you know.

589
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, afternoons were the mornings were good, afternoons were not great.

590
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but and you feel like you have to be

591
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 4: doing something. You feel like you need to be out there.

592
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. If I'm out there, I need to be hunting. Yeah,

593
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: you know it's so count.

594
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 4: You never know, You never know if that is right call.

595
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 4: That's the thing is, you don't know if it's the

596
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 4: right call or not, Like you don't know if you

597
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,719
Speaker 4: could just be ruining tomorrow's hunt or if you are

598
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: making more opportunities. Yeah.

599
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: The whole leave Elk to find Elk was a little frustrating. Yeah,

600
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: Like just if you find him, to stay with him. Like,

601
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: that's the one thing I would do is do different

602
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 2: is bet them and just stay on them, wait them

603
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: out and see if they get up that afternoon if

604
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: you have like a real good pinpoint on them, especially

605
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: with us in that second hunt, you know, there's a

606
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: couple of afternoons I probably would have just once we

607
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 2: knew what they were, where they were going to bed,

608
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: just waited them out.

609
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: But especially that last day, if we would have stayed.

610
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 6: You thought you knew where they were going to bed.

611
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 6: But then what we found out the last day is

612
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 6: we had no clue.

613
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just kept going and kept going. I watched

614
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: YouTube video of a guy doing that with with a

615
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: white tail or, like he would see saw bed and

616
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: he just stayed there all day and waited, and like

617
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 4: it could get up and walk right away from you,

618
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: or it could get up and give you a shot,

619
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 4: and you're just like, I just sit here for four

620
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 4: or five hours.

621
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 5: I think about that bull we had last year that

622
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 5: came in, Remember then he went dead and we tried

623
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 5: to jump it.

624
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: We should have just waited.

625
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 5: Which one the one you couldn't get a shot at

626
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 5: that I was above and I was like, dude, why

627
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 5: didn't you shoot? Oh yeah, it came in like it

628
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 5: came in hot.

629
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

630
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 5: And then we chased it and it just said, yeah,

631
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 5: just waited on that one.

632
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: Yeah. And it feels like an eternity, Like I was

633
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 4: gonna say, you were in front of it for eight

634
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 4: to ten minutes. But and it could have I mean,

635
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 4: it could have been even shorter because the way it feels,

636
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: but like it feels like it's.

637
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: Forever, as like I want this to go away or

638
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: I want to happen or go away.

639
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's such a long time.

640
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 6: Even the one that came in silent. Just I know

641
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 6: how long it was because of the clip. It was

642
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 6: a seven minute interaction with that the six by seven.

643
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that one.

644
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 6: And that bull took seven minutes to walk basically five

645
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 6: feet and just look around, but never gave a shot.

646
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 6: And you have to think, if he walks five more

647
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 6: yards up the hill, he's a broadside shot at thirty thirty.

648
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: Five, would have eighteen I remember that tree.

649
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: If it would have taken he was at forty so yeah,

650
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: but I'm saying he was would have walked behind a tree.

651
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: I had a tree pegged at eighteen yard whatever, you know,

652
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: if you'd walked, But.

653
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 6: It took him seven minutes to decide, no, I'm not.

654
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: Coming in Scott. It makes me think of that that

655
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 4: deer I shot when I got out of the tree

656
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: stand in Georgia. Like it's just I wish I would

657
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 4: have had a GoPro on my chest when when I

658
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: saw this deer coming in, I uh, I got out

659
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: of the tree stand. I got out of the tree stand,

660
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 4: shut of dough right, yeah, and that's way you got out, sure,

661
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 4: h Okay, I got it, Yes, okay. I got out

662
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 4: of the tree stand for reasons, and I am seeing

663
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: at the bottom of the tree and I see the

664
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 4: deer walking through the woods bushes really and I was like,

665
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 4: that's a good deer. Maybe I should try to shoot it.

666
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: And I put an arrow in and I look around.

667
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, my gosh, that's like a or sorry.

668
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: First I'm like it's a deer. Then I'm like, oh,

669
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: it's like a spike or something whatever. I'm kind of

670
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: like this last year, this is last year, this is yeah,

671
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: last November. I'm like, I'll just let I just like

672
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here, I'll just see if I can let

673
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: it get close. Like I'll just be really still. I

674
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: probably won't shoot it. And I see it coming in

675
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 4: coming in and I go, oh my gosh, like this

676
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: is a good deer. Like I need to start figuring

677
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 4: out what to do. It's like a big solid eight

678
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: point like I need to figure out what I need

679
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: to do here. And so I just like sit, I

680
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: knock an arrow, and same thing. It just feels like

681
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: an eternity and I finally just poke out and draw.

682
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: At the same time, I'm right behind the tree just

683
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: like huddle it in draw. The same time, he doesn't

684
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: move and it's frontal, Like, oh gosh. And I start

685
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: to think and it feels like, I mean, an hour,

686
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: feels like I'm sitting here for an hour, but probably

687
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 4: it's fifteen seconds. And I'm like, well, he's frontal. I

688
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 4: can see like here, you put an arrow there, it's

689
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: gonna die. Like I never I I mean, I knew

690
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: that you could take frontal shots and you're not supposed

691
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 4: to take them from elevated, but I was like, there's

692
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 4: no way it doesn't die. I'm gonna cut its throat

693
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 4: and so I shoot it bare the arrow down inside

694
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: its body and it dies in ten feet. Yeah. I

695
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: was like, this, of course is gonna work. I don't.

696
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 4: I just don't know why. I couldn't figure that it

697
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: would work in the moment.

698
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 5: With the lack of sleep part, one of the things

699
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 5: Gallupin was huge on was like, before you go to

700
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 5: mimic what you're going into. That's no matter what that's like.

701
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 5: To me, the toughest part to actual like mimic lack

702
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 5: of sleep. Yeah, Like, I mean, I guess you could

703
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 5: just sit in a horm and I go through it personally,

704
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But it's like I don't

705
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 5: want to do that.

706
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: No, I do try to.

707
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 4: I do try to like dial back stuff, so like

708
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: if I don't necessarily just like wake up a five

709
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: am one morning, but I will try to dial it

710
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: back and be used to getting up at maybe you know,

711
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: if I'm getting up a let's just say I'm getting

712
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: up a seven, I know I'm gonna be getting up

713
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: at five. Maybe go six forty five for a couple

714
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: of days six thirty, get down to six or five

715
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: forty five. That way, when that five am hit seven.

716
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, just saying like that that when that

717
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: five am hits it's not as much of a shock.

718
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 4: Then if I've been getting up at you know, seven,

719
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: seven thirty eight o'clock, then uh, is not nearly as bad.

720
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 4: I do try to do that because it does. Uh,

721
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: it does make a difference, you kind of because then

722
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 4: since you're sleep your your your bedtime back a little

723
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: bit and you you go to bed a little earlier

724
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 4: and you wake up a little earlyeper. Consistency or yeah,

725
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 4: it's said, that's huge, I think, And then obviously there's

726
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: real world to it. Like you guys have kids, so

727
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: like it's sometimes it's not up to you a time

728
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: you're going to bed, and it's not really up to

729
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 4: you a.

730
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 5: Time mornings on it. I think for us the mornings

731
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 5: are fine because at the same time we're you Central time.

732
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

733
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 4: So like if you first couple of days are nice,

734
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: but it's staying up late.

735
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what gets you, honestly, because it's the duration

736
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 5: you're getting. Yeah, it's not like you have a like

737
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 5: you go white to hunting here and you're trying to

738
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 5: wake up during the dark and all that. It's like, man,

739
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 5: so you wake up at four am there, it's it's

740
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 5: like you're waking up at six sits here, which is fine.

741
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 5: It's just getting a bed late. Probably then probably your

742
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 5: sleep isn't as good, you know. So then yeah, so

743
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 5: then like day five, you're tired. Your legs probably feel

744
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 5: a little heavy just from being you know, not necessarily

745
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: you're like fatigued, you're just on tired.

746
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you just just get worn down. Especially unless

747
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: you're eating the way you eat, unless you're car bloating

748
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: the way you car blow, then you probably feel you

749
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: probably feel fine towards you back, that's true. Those most

750
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: of you are pretty beat up.

751
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: You know.

752
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 5: It gets me in November two. Is this Christmas tree cakes?

753
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's are so good, the same seasonal they show

754
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: at the same time that you're sitting in the tree

755
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: stand all day. It's like, yeah, they got them, they

756
00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: got the market locked.

757
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: All I say.

758
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: My legs rebounded way better than I thought there they would.

759
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: There were some days towards the end of the day

760
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: where I'm like, oh no, and then the next morning,

761
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: as long as you know, I was about say, as

762
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: long as we got good sleep. We did not get

763
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: any good sleep.

764
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: I think I was averaging like four or five hours, yeah,

765
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: on my whoop, and every.

766
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: Day though I'd wake up fine.

767
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was same for me.

768
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were some days where I was like, oh man,

769
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: my knee is bugging me, and we would you know,

770
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: even break for the middle of the day.

771
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 4: By the afternoon, I was fine.

772
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 6: Speaking of these hunts and getting ready for them, you

773
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 6: should walk through the next one we have coming, and

774
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 6: how your uncle, my.

775
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 4: Uncle is getting ready for it.

776
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So my uncle sixty five, he's killed a couple

777
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: of cows, he's never killed a bull. So we're gonna

778
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: take him to.

779
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: Our lease in Colorado and let him kill a bull.

780
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: And so he's sixty five, he's set in his ways,

781
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: not gonna tell him that he has to do pure

782
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: Mayhem hunt stuff. I think he's doing some echo bike

783
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: at my cousin's house. But he walks the grain silos.

784
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: That's how he's kind of always gotten ready for him.

785
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: And so there a hundred probably a hundred foot grain silos,

786
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 2: I would guess, and he I think he does three

787
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: a day right now. He said October first, he was

788
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: starting four a day. Throws a rock on and just

789
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: goes after it.

790
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 5: So it's cool.

791
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: That's cool.

792
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: That's that's a StairMaster.

793
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really good.

794
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: And you get the d sil you know, coming down

795
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: arms and legs. That's the one piece that you're like

796
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: on the Staremaster you don't get.

797
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. People are always saying those Jacob's ladders are cool.

798
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 4: So I mean that's basically just literally what it's made

799
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 4: to train you for. So that's cool.

800
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so looking forward to that one.

801
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 4: That will be fun.

802
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: Got that new sig seven mil PRC carbon fiber I

803
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: think is light way lighter than the old. Yeah, three

804
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: hundred wind bag cannon. Billings was like, hey, do I

805
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: have to take that three hundred? He's like, it's just

806
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: too heavy for me.

807
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 5: Did you show him? Did you show him the new one?

808
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: No?

809
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: But he's all up, you know, maybe about that.

810
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't follow like rifle cartridges enough, but

811
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: the seven millimeters is supposed to be like really good. Yeah.

812
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: I honestly I'm woefully inadequate on rifles. I gotta start

813
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: shooting that thing just to get a feel for it.

814
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 5: This was me and Scott's first full viva.

815
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, how'd that go?

816
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 5: It was actually fine? I actually liked them better this time. Yeah,

817
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 5: I do think I think I told you, yes, C's yeah.

818
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 5: The A big difference what you have to be ready

819
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 5: for is like when you're going up a hill, I do.

820
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 5: It does make you work your caps more because like

821
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 5: in a Crispian stuff, Yeah, it's it's a plate. Yeah,

822
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 5: you're just you just you just dig your toe win

823
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 5: and it's almost then like a yeah stairs. Whereas a viva,

824
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 5: which I'm used to I was used to it as well.

825
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 4: It didn't bother me.

826
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 2: The one thing, Scott, I don't know if we try

827
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: a bigger size for yours because he had that same

828
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: issue that I had with the insulated one last winter.

829
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: Was that the heel cup.

830
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 2: You know, like if you look at the shoe about

831
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 2: midway down your heel, there is like a little cup

832
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: that kind of holds your foot from sliding around and

833
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: if you're if it's too small at all, it digs

834
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: in and it's not a blister, it's.

835
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: Like a bruise.

836
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: And so I had to go a size up on

837
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: the tracker and I didn't have that issue this time.

838
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 5: I mean there's still some waterproof issues.

839
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: But its more like it coming down into the boot versus.

840
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think it's water resistant, but there's still hold. Yeah.

841
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean my feet got wet in Wyoming. Yeah, but

842
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: we had a fire to dry them.

843
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 5: But I will say, just like stability wise and people

844
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: thinking that you need like these full ankle supports and

845
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 5: things like that, you never roll your ankles over, no,

846
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 5: because you're not on a soul Yeah right, So and it.

847
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: Is pretty good ankle support because it's a tight fit.

848
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 4: Yeah. I liked the ankle support in my online like yeah, but.

849
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 5: Even I'm just saying because like some people won't where

850
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 5: their ankles won't bend at all in their boot because

851
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: you fall over. But dude, you think you go over

852
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 5: like you're just stable everywhere.

853
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

854
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: I think some of the guys in Wyoming were like

855
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: one of the kids was like, that's not gonna work.

856
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: You're gonna hate those, and I was like, dude, I

857
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: promise you I will. And then towards the end, towards

858
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: the end, he's like, what are you sure those are okay?

859
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yes, I promise, like I'm used to it. Yeah,

860
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: He's like, I don't know how you wear such a

861
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: thin shoe up here, blah blah blah. He's like I

862
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: could see down low, but he's like, up here was

863
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: a rocky ish not really. I mean there was like

864
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: some rock, but like, uh, when we went up into

865
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: those freaking avalanche shoots, I mean it didn't matter what

866
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: boot you had, it was slick as ship.

867
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

868
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: Uh no.

869
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 4: I was like I was telling you guys the other day,

870
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 4: for lack of better terms, I'm not connected to the earth.

871
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 5: As well connected basketball shot.

872
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you wear but those, you're right, those are

873
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: just oh yeah, you're judas those are those are just

874
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: a little little bit bigger and chunkier shoes. So you

875
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: but like when you put like I was, I was

876
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: deciding whether I want to wear those or my boots

877
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 4: that day, and I'm like, holy crap, Like you can

878
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: really feel a difference, and you can and you can

879
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 4: just feel the ground better. I don't know how to

880
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 4: explain it. You can just feel the ground better. And

881
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: if you're hiking, I would feel like that is the right. Yes,

882
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 4: you want to be.

883
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 5: Well, you're already in the outdoor, so why would you

884
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 5: not want to be connected to the ground exactly?

885
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: I want to be nice as connected. I couldn't be

886
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: too connected, you know. Yeah, I need a little bit,

887
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 4: a little barrier, a little barrier, a little protection you

888
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: may say, from the from the ground, but just a

889
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 4: little bit, not too much. No, I love them.

890
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 1: I wear the trackers of war warm on both hunts.

891
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: Wouldn't change it. I'm gonna wear the insulated trackers on

892
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 2: the next hunt.

893
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 4: Maybe.

894
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 2: Hell if it's cold cold, who knows last year was cold?

895
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: Lot of little pool lots up. Did you have any

896
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: other thoughts Scott that came to you.

897
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: Any.

898
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: Anything while you're on the mountain that you're like, oh,

899
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: this just makes sense. Why we do this or over unders.

900
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: Pretty smart to do. Yeah, I was a couple of

901
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: times when we'd go over some stuff, I was like, yeah,

902
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: maybe we.

903
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 4: Should do some over unders next year.

904
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 5: Oh, Angel loves over unders.

905
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: I don't love them. They just seem very sports specific

906
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 4: for us. Alex Alex loves him. Yeah, he asked for him.

907
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: He says he likes them, which those are very sports

908
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 4: specific for him.

909
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: There was one Scott meltdown.

910
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 4: We had one for what there was.

911
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 2: Man, we had been we'd been up and down emotionally

912
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: all week, mostly down, and uh, right before last light,

913
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: we'd played kind of the timid game some like hey,

914
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: let's get him to come to us. And then I

915
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 2: think Justin had had enough and he's like go and

916
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: that's all I needed to hear. And so I took

917
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: off and we're going, and we would go, we'd call,

918
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: we'd go, we'd call, and we were just like instead

919
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: of like trying to sneak in on him, like breaking stuff,

920
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: like making it sound like elk.

921
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 4: We're coming.

922
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 6: Were also were racing the light.

923
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Racing the light in and the timber. It was.

924
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: No way to get a shot, but you could see

925
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: the sun in the meadows and so I just like,

926
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: screw it, take off.

927
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: Well, there's this log and it's probably what just just

928
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: blow hippipe.

929
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: It was a big log and.

930
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: It had a bunch of dead branches kind of like this,

931
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: and so I just kind of like right through it.

932
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 4: And all of a.

933
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: Sudden, I hear break and I hear every word in

934
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: the book, and I.

935
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: Look back and Scott is coming out of a role,

936
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: like he played it off really well, come out of

937
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: a roll, and he's just dog cussing anybody and everything.

938
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: And the guy is laughing because he's coming to and

939
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, I'm like, all right, Scott's good till we

940
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: take off.

941
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: We get out in the meadow and we call a

942
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: little bit and that bull.

943
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 2: Comes running out, but he's like one hundred and fifty

944
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: yards and it's last light and we're trying to and

945
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: I threw out a couple of calf calls and he

946
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: perked up, but he just would not come in.

947
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: But anyway, I'm like, Scott, you're all right.

948
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, it didn't hurt, but you know, just

949
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: made total you know, like we're it all boils up

950
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: where he's fine, he's fine, he's fine.

951
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 4: And then yeah, yep.

952
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 5: Uh, last thing, Angelo, So you do program up to September? Yeah,

953
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 5: what so then October? What's people getting ready for from there?

954
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: So I don't try I try not to change too

955
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 4: much throughout the season because like there are people that

956
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 4: go on these late rifle hunts that had that you know,

957
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: are very similar obviously September ELK and I try not

958
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 4: to change anything within the hunt. But when I do

959
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 4: talk to people I or talked to in the in

960
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 4: the program, I don't change anything. I like to talk

961
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: to people. Hey, if you go on a hunt, show

962
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: up because I can't obviously I can't tailor to everybody.

963
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 4: So when you come back to get back into things,

964
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 4: just you know, take it easy, do as you can,

965
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 4: like show up and work out. Just know that you,

966
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 4: like he said, your fitness level isn't gonna be where

967
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: it was out when you left. You you were at

968
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 4: this huge peak. You go on your hunt, you're gone

969
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 4: for seven days. You haven't done a pull up, you

970
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 4: haven't done any push ups, you haven't done box jumps

971
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 4: or whatever. So like, just go in and move for

972
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 4: the first couple of days. And then when you when

973
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 4: you've come back and you get three days under your belt.

974
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: Then start pushing and see where the body's at. Obviously

975
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 4: you don't want to show up day one and you

976
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: know rip the bandit off in a way you do,

977
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: but not like where you might hurt yourself or you

978
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: might hurt yourself, like it might be good to chew.

979
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: Like Thursdays cardio workouts. Go, Go do the cardio workout.

980
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: Go as hard as you can. See what happens, like

981
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: get the herd rate up, get used to that feeling,

982
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 4: and then you know, throw in some weights. Don't come

983
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 4: back and max out your deadlift, like if we have

984
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: a five set of two, because I think we're in

985
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 4: kind of like a transition between one strength program and

986
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: the other. It and there's a test week there's like

987
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 4: a five x two deadlift or a five by two

988
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 4: back squad, do it, but maybe not try to hit

989
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: a two red max. So just you have to be

990
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: smart if you want to if you want to train

991
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 4: all season, especially if you have hunts in the later season.

992
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: I mean, and even if you have whitetail hunts planned, like.

993
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: There's a limited equipment option, take some stuff with you.

994
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well, honestly, like I have to when we're

995
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: white tail we did when we went with Ritz last year,

996
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: middle of the day, just so I could even sit

997
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: in the evening. I had to do something in the middle.

998
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: But also like Krispy Kremes or.

999
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: Christmas tree Christmas trees, but even And you probably understand this,

1000
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 4: like you don't want to get out of the deer

1001
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 4: stand and do a thousand deadlifts back because you're not

1002
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 4: gonna be able to sip. Like you can do some

1003
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: upper body box jumps, do some rowing running.

1004
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: I did some run air squat one time.

1005
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great. Stand bag, cleaned up bench. Don't do

1006
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 4: something that's gonna make it difficult for you to sit.

1007
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: You shoot and it's gonna be cool. And if it's cold,

1008
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: like if you're in a November hunt and you go

1009
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 4: you know, you can go back and you can work out,

1010
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: and then you go, you go out, you sit and

1011
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 4: it's ten fifteen degrees and you're just freaking shriveling up.

1012
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 4: You did a bunch of bench press, your chest is tight,

1013
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 4: you're cold, and now you have to draw your bow

1014
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 4: and you haven't you haven't touched it in hours. So

1015
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 4: like just a little bit of common sense, it's not uh.

1016
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 4: And then obviously, like my I think Bird's email is

1017
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 4: definitely on Sugar one. My emails, my emails on there, Like,

1018
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 4: if you have a question about something specifically, just send

1019
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: an email to us. Well, maybe we'll get back to you.

1020
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: I'll afford it right to Yeah, afford it right right

1021
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: to me. But I yeah, I mean, I don't mind.

1022
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 4: Like I like to get those questions. It's nice to

1023
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 4: interact with people doing it. So just send the questions

1024
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: and then we can easily say, like, hey, man, I

1025
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 4: just went on a hunt for ten days, Like what

1026
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 4: do you think I should do? Well, maybe you should

1027
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 4: move this day around, move that day around, and kind

1028
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 4: of slowly ease back into it. So yeah, it's cool, sweet.

1029
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 4: Anything else to add Scott, Scott's very quiet today. Still

1030
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 4: sick a lot on my mind, all right, Peace,