WEBVTT - Is 69 Still Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I do Part two.

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<v Speaker 2>It's your celebrity mentor Kathy Schwartz, and I'm joined by

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<v Speaker 2>my fellow Golden Bachshoulder alum and good friend Joan Vassas. Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Joanes, Hi, Kathy. I'm so glad to be here with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So we are here at the iHeart Awards in

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles, and you've not been before? Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been. I've watched them on TV and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always like starstruck about the number of performers that actually

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<v Speaker 1>come to this thing. I'm so excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be great. I've been to it once

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<v Speaker 2>before and there are so many famous people. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>like eye candy the whole night.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear I'm going to meet somebody famous tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard I heard Taylor Goodness coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Taylor. Oh well, I don't think I'm mean

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<v Speaker 1>to Taylor Swift. I'm sure her entourage is going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep me far away from her, but I'm gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to photo them. I'm her on the red carpet if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm anywhere in here. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, before we get there tonight, we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a very interesting little chit chat this morning. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you ready?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the subject and I don't think I am ready. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well here I am three to two one. I just

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<v Speaker 1>got you ready. So recently, Woody Goldberg opened up about

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<v Speaker 1>her about her sex life, being single at seventy after

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<v Speaker 1>three divorces, and here's what she said. Quote, I am single.

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<v Speaker 1>I do hit and runs when I need it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not married to anybody, and I don't have responsibilities unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>She also said, in the last twenty five years, I

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that not everybody's cut out to be in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people are just cut out to be one night stance.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, how would you describe sex when you're over

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five? I know you're not over sixty five, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to cut it down. How do you describe

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<v Speaker 1>having sex over sixty two?

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<v Speaker 2>Joan?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, you went right in for the kills,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you know? It? Wine around here.

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<v Speaker 2>So much time? John, you know, it's just you and I.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in my living room. We're talking about sex. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So, first of all, like I got to think about

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<v Speaker 1>woop be Goldberg, and I think she's admitting to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot that I would have hard time admitting to like

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<v Speaker 1>on like so publicly, and it sounds like she is

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly happy having a like a like. She calls it

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<v Speaker 1>a fuck boy, a person that she just has sex with.

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<v Speaker 1>At this stage, I don't feel comfortable with that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not judging anybody. If you feel comfortable doing that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>more power to you. I wish I was maybe more

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<v Speaker 1>free about sex, but I just am not, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe it has to do with our generation. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>even talking about it is uncomfortable for me, which is

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<v Speaker 1>here I am, and I'm podcast talking about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try. I really am, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is an important conversation. I honestly do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's an important conversation. I think that our generation,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I both grew up on the East Coast.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's some of that puritanical heritage that are

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<v Speaker 2>I'm afraid and grandparents, you know, sent down to us,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you very much for that. But I do

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<v Speaker 2>think that tom times are changing. We are both widows.

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<v Speaker 2>You're obviously in a relationship with talk. I'm not in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship. But I think that when I got married,

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<v Speaker 2>I was my husband was my first sexual partner and

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<v Speaker 2>then I married him, and then I didn't have sex

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<v Speaker 2>with anyone else until after he died. So for me,

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<v Speaker 2>what will be saying like that? That takes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of courage first to admit it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are more women at all ages who

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<v Speaker 2>are still interested in having sex. You know, we all

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<v Speaker 2>we always hear about men and just men need a

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<v Speaker 2>place to stick at. We hear that all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Men never lose their sex drive. I think women often,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't lost my sex drive. You haven't lost yours.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not, you know what, I think it's weird, or

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's weird, But I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fact that a lot of people lose their sex drive

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<v Speaker 1>to the person they're married too because they become bored.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they I think they become I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if it's boredom. I think they become too involved in

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<v Speaker 1>their lives and it just becomes less of a priority.

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<v Speaker 1>And then once that kind of happens, then it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get it back.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think what you're saying, if you don't use it.

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<v Speaker 1>You lose it. I kind of feel like that if

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<v Speaker 1>people made their sex life at priority in their life,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it stays. But if they don't, but I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, like in my marriage, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to admit this, and God, I hope my kids don't

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this. No one's going to listen to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, We're good.

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<v Speaker 1>If I got undressed in front of my husband, like

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<v Speaker 1>if I were in the bedroom and I'm putting on

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever I'm going to wear to sleep, if I

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<v Speaker 1>got undressed with him, he was going to want to

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<v Speaker 1>have sex with me, which was flattering that he still

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<v Speaker 1>like loved having sex with me. So if I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in the mood, I'd have to go in the closet

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<v Speaker 1>and get dressed because otherwise, you know, otherwise it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. So or so.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will say for me when my husband died,

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<v Speaker 2>the thought of having sex. I know you've said before

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<v Speaker 2>on your season that you felt like you were cheating

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<v Speaker 2>on John. Initially, I did not feel like I was

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<v Speaker 2>cheating on my husband. When I the first time I

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<v Speaker 2>had sex after he died, it was it was at

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<v Speaker 2>least a few years after he died. But I will

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<v Speaker 2>tell you I was worried, is he going to think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm too thin? Is he going to think I'm too fat,

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<v Speaker 2>are my boobs hanging? You know, all those things that

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<v Speaker 2>as your body changes. We're not twenty years old anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>and I never really stopped to think do men think that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they worry about themselves?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they see their belly or do they see something

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<v Speaker 1>that's not.

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<v Speaker 2>As Yeah, I mean I know that some men, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't like to talk about that little blue pill. They

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<v Speaker 2>like to think that they're virile whatever. But I will

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, I almost feel somethings like a freak. And

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<v Speaker 2>now my kids are going to listen and die, so

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<v Speaker 2>you and I can get an.

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<v Speaker 1>Apartment about your freak, sweetie. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a lot of female friends who, after

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<v Speaker 2>they had their children, have said to me, Kath, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to date and sleep with guys. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if I find a guy, I'm interested. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not just going to hang a shinkle out. And they said,

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<v Speaker 2>they said, I could care less about sex. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care if I ever have sex again. I have my kids,

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<v Speaker 2>I have my tennis team. I don't care. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you many women I know feel that way.

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<v Speaker 2>So I almost feel like I'm in the minority.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm in the same camp as you are. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that conversation again. I feel a little uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>talking about sex, but with you, actually I feel very comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, we had a weird conversation yesterday, not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>we were having this conversation today. Yes, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>things about me that I probably never said to another

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<v Speaker 1>human being.

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<v Speaker 2>I said things to you. We were sitting around the

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<v Speaker 2>pool in la in our hotel, at our hotel, and

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<v Speaker 2>we just started talking about sex and course, then both

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<v Speaker 2>of us like Jesus, is somebody going to be sitting here?

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<v Speaker 1>We're looking around, are hidden all of a sudden, season

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<v Speaker 1>are free? No, we're not freaks. We were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>things that we hadn't done, more than things we had done.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel the same way as you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want this to be like a PSA public service announcement.

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<v Speaker 1>People our age, lots of them still do like having sex. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's more to it than just the physical part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I think maybe for the younger generation, so

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<v Speaker 1>much more of it is physical. So, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked to the thirty year olds to twenty year

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<v Speaker 1>olds that are out there dating and they have a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty promiscuous I would say sex life way more than

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<v Speaker 1>we did when we were their age. For me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about intimacy. It's about that closeness and about having a

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<v Speaker 1>person that I trust enough to do that with. And

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have to be particularly love. It has to

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<v Speaker 1>be trust and right and feeling safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. That is where I'm different from what I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I would be when I started dating initially, And even

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<v Speaker 2>now I will say I'm either in a relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>a guy or I'm pretty damn sure I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in one. But there you have to feel I

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<v Speaker 2>have to feel safe. I'm not going into climb in

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<v Speaker 2>bed with someone. You know, I'll go. If I want release,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go vacuum my living room rugs and run five

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<v Speaker 2>miles right right, right, right. So but I think that

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there there's all these sort of I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know what I want to say, these old

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<v Speaker 2>sort of witch stories. You know, things women don't enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>sex when they get older. I know that when people

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<v Speaker 2>women hit menopause. At least for me, it was great

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't have to worry about getting pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that necessarily that was great.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you think sex gets worse the older you get.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm fatch. I think it's maybe the opposite. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I am more in tune. So there was a

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<v Speaker 1>time where I thought I am here to satisfy my

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<v Speaker 1>husband or the man or whatever, and that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of my job. And like I took like.

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<v Speaker 2>You saw it as a job, not as a job.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't like the physical part of it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as important as the emotional part of it, as the

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<v Speaker 1>intimacy part, Like the interest me see doesn't necessary, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>the like the ending of you know, the sex act.

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<v Speaker 1>So I always felt like it certainly was for the man,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was more in tune to making sure he

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<v Speaker 1>was pleased than myself. I am different now than I'm older.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I get to have both you can

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<v Speaker 1>because I was never into that. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I almost, I almost. I mean I was very reciprocal,

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<v Speaker 2>is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say I learned a weird thing on a

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor season. I can't remember who the bachelorette was, but

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<v Speaker 1>they took I think she was a teacher, and they

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<v Speaker 1>took the men from her season. There must have been

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<v Speaker 1>about ten left, and they went to a middle school

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<v Speaker 1>classroom and they their job was to do a sex

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<v Speaker 1>ad class to kids do it and so and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the guys got up and I so appreciate this

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<v Speaker 1>guy that he got up there and he was just

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<v Speaker 1>talking like in very generic terms, and he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you know a man loves a woman loves him

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<v Speaker 1>as a man, whatever, we sometimes do it. And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's important to know that that if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>take into account their kind of satisfaction, then they're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to do it with you anymore. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, good for you that you realize that,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not sure every man that I had sex

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<v Speaker 1>with when I was younger got that.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say. I was going to say, as and again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not like I've slept with hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>men now either. But but give me another couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, still got time. Just kidding, I'm sure, no,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that now with age for me has come, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I deserve the same treatment. And I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just when we had kids, you know, it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>hurry up the kids. I gotta get kids a little right, No,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly exactly, And now I think the I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I can only say, and you can tell me if

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<v Speaker 2>you feel differently. Now it's not just about the actual

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<v Speaker 2>act of you know, penetration, it's what comes before it

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<v Speaker 2>what it's what comes after a weekend and slow it down.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what I'm saying. The intimate, the intimacy part

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<v Speaker 1>of it is more important than maybe the ending of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I feel like you can have both. And

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<v Speaker 1>I did not feel like that when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 1>I really didn't. I felt like I got the intimacy

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<v Speaker 1>my husband or my partner got you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the ending. And I can't even say it isn't that embarrassing?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait three years old and after me my husband had

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<v Speaker 2>an organs.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not saying that my husband he's in heaven

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<v Speaker 1>and climax. I don't know. I can say, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just we're just apparently were they picked the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>person to do this podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Did you have nerves getting back on the horse

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<v Speaker 2>as it were?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny. I really didn't. Well, okay, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say I did a little bit, But I, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I still enjoyed having sex. I still enjoyed the intimacy.

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<v Speaker 1>I still enjoy the ending, say, I'm calling it the

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<v Speaker 1>ending now and so and I thought, when when John

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<v Speaker 1>passed away, in so many aspects of my life, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>is this all I get? Is this the end of it?

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<v Speaker 1>And that was one of the things, you know, also

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<v Speaker 1>that intimacy and also having that kind of relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>another man. I thought, do I ever get to have

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<v Speaker 1>that again? So I was seeking that out too, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as a lot of other things, like the other

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<v Speaker 1>things that I felt like I had lost when he

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<v Speaker 1>passed away. So I didn't think that was the end.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that I deserved it. I thought that I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted it, and I sought it out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to be honest. I don't judge Woopi Goldberg.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's good for you. Good for you wood

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<v Speaker 2>Be if that's what floats your boat, if that's what

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<v Speaker 2>makes you happy. I just think that women can be

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<v Speaker 2>so judgy at any age.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we need to start supporting each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there's a little bit too much judgment

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<v Speaker 2>that goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the man are going to love us if

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<v Speaker 1>we support each other, because it's going to okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a question, do you do you think

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<v Speaker 2>men are embarrassed by Like, let's be honest, women after

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<v Speaker 2>a certain age, we we need if you're not on

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<v Speaker 2>hormone replacement. You know, there's all kinds of things that

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<v Speaker 2>you can use so that it's you know, I love

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<v Speaker 2>or up against a brick wall. But do you find

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<v Speaker 2>that men feel self conscious about the fact they might

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<v Speaker 2>need to use that little blue pill? Have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>had that conversation?

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<v Speaker 1>No, And I've been with me men who have had

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<v Speaker 1>to use a little blue pill. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>really pretty normal, and I think it's pretty accepted since

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of out there in the world. There's commercials

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and you know, if it makes it better,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the other the other option is that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be good. And do you want it

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<v Speaker 1>to not be good? Do you want it to not

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<v Speaker 1>be able to, you know, get to the point it

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be well?

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you, and that's a very logical answer, and

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. But I've had men say to

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<v Speaker 2>me proudly, I don't need to use a little blue pill.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm well, good for you, yeah, exactly good, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Judging you if you do right? In fact, like I

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<v Speaker 1>want it to be good. So use the little blue

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<v Speaker 1>pill if you need to.

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<v Speaker 2>So the men that for me, again, I'm a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit older than you. I find that men very quickly

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<v Speaker 2>are more forward about talking about sex, like they want

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<v Speaker 2>to know pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to know, are you going to say you will?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not if I buy you a nice dinner,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to go to bed with me. It's listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm interested in you, but I'm not going to date

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<v Speaker 2>you if you're not going to have sex with me

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<v Speaker 2>down the road. Down the road could be two dates later,

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<v Speaker 2>a month later, but they want to know up front.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you found that as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely? And you know what, it's fair because you even

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<v Speaker 1>said in the beginning of this podcast you have friends

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<v Speaker 1>who are not interested in it. I don't think men

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<v Speaker 1>ever get to that point unless you have a really

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe very very testosterone they are having like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some physical issues. They don't ever not want to have sex.

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<v Speaker 1>And so did you fare did you think when.

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<v Speaker 2>You were twenty five? Did you? I mean, can you?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking, oh, my parents are having sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, God, God, I know. I'm sorry kids for having

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>In a podcast right now. I'm just telling you, just.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're clear. Your father and I only had sex

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<v Speaker 2>three times. That's why I have three children only, just

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<v Speaker 2>so we're clear. Okay, this You're gonna love this question, John,

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<v Speaker 2>Aren't you glad you're in this podcast room with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the vodka?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? That is my line where it's the vodcast? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>At our age? Is there such a thing as a

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<v Speaker 2>fuck boy?

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<v Speaker 1>I recently read I recently had someone trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>a fuck boy with me. I was at an event

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<v Speaker 1>and I ended up to.

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<v Speaker 2>Your citizen fuck boys.

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<v Speaker 1>No, oh gosh no, they're usually like in their twenties

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<v Speaker 1>and thirties, thinking that like for some reason they like

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<v Speaker 1>older women.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't really do Oh, I don't think a

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<v Speaker 2>fuck boys the term. Sorry coming can I say fucking

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast? But I don't think that it has anything

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<v Speaker 2>to do with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what I'm saying. That the one experience, or

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<v Speaker 1>not the one experience, but the most recent experience happened

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<v Speaker 1>like two weeks ago with a like thirty year old

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<v Speaker 1>hitting on me and I was like, and he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to come up to my hotel room, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not happening. This is not happening, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was very persistent. And so I think that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a perception that we are willing to do that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think funk boys are fine, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>apparently enough of us are doing it that people think

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to be successful when they I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think, I think there's a whole host of reasons why

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<v Speaker 2>young ICEQ after older women and and but.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be a whole podcast. That could be a

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<v Speaker 1>whole podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree, But I also think that older men, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's like something they're born with. You know, how

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<v Speaker 2>many places can I drop my my semen in the world?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I mean, I think they know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be the title of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Where where did I put my where? But I will

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<v Speaker 2>tell you I I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you find it with older men that they are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be fun boys instead of having relationships personally?

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<v Speaker 2>When I meet a guy, they find out really quickly

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not that's not my thing. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I yes have had men ask

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<v Speaker 2>me like, hey, yeah, I find you really attractive. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to just have sex? Like no, I don't, but

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<v Speaker 2>thank you because because thanks for asking, because having sex

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<v Speaker 2>means more to me. However, I don't judge women. I

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<v Speaker 2>have friends. I mean, I think there's I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly stupid. I have a couple of friends who met

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<v Speaker 2>guys in bars in their sixties, met men in bars,

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<v Speaker 2>went home and had sex with them and didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>use protection. And I'm like, Okay, that's smart. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>not smart at any.

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<v Speaker 1>Any age, I know. I mean, you do hear those

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<v Speaker 1>stories that that sex is so prevalent in like old

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<v Speaker 1>age communities that they have a problem with venearial diseases. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's another reason not to move to a fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five and over.

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<v Speaker 1>Because those sluts are spreading pad diseases. Our seamen is

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, wait a minute, there's female sluts too. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just you know.

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<v Speaker 1>They're right out there too.

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<v Speaker 2>They put their their their their.

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<v Speaker 1>Sluts about anyone having sex. Is really bad about it

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't feel like it's slutty. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like God gave you this, like you know, urge

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<v Speaker 1>to have sex, and I mean, there's nothing wrong with it.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I feel the same you do if you

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<v Speaker 1>are willing to do that and that is what makes

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<v Speaker 1>you happy. I'm like, go for it, guys, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of men that will do it with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we need to come up with like and

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<v Speaker 2>I've got an idea instead of a boy at our age,

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<v Speaker 2>how about senior fucker?

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<v Speaker 1>I call them like, I say that about people. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like people, senior suckers, senior fuck about fuck man

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<v Speaker 1>and boy?

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<v Speaker 2>No no, I mean then it's like fuck granddaddy, Like, oh,

0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.880
<v Speaker 2>fuck old geezer. Yeah, no, you know, fucking geezer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like, does have to you have the word

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<v Speaker 1>fucking it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe what it is, the act of seriously doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to have a word, and they absolutely no, let's

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<v Speaker 2>call it. Let's call it you know, uh walking walking

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<v Speaker 2>jad man? I mean, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, We're not probably going to be able to change

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<v Speaker 1>that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I like senior fuer.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>What advice Joan, jeez, get read? Can I ask you

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<v Speaker 2>these questions? What advice would you give to women who

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<v Speaker 2>have never tried a sex toy because they might think

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<v Speaker 2>of them as shameful and there are women who.

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<v Speaker 1>Do well, Okay, I'm gonna say this right on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never tried it sex toy.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never tried a sex.

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<v Speaker 2>You are never serious.

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<v Speaker 1>I never have.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there are never real men who shall go nameless

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<v Speaker 2>on our side. Exactly was a suitcase full of thee

0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.280
<v Speaker 2>I know. I'm always so amazed by that. I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>so amazed that No never had one. I don't think

0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm a prude. I just you just didn't need one.

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<v Speaker 1>Never had one. No, never had a man that has

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<v Speaker 1>like thought like suggested it.

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<v Speaker 2>I obviously well no that I will be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know until recently that sex toys, I

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<v Speaker 2>think are were much more common with younger people. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's I don't know. I don't know why I say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm wrong, but I did not know until recently,

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<v Speaker 2>because someone educated me on this that that's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>other kind of sex, is of intimacy of your partner

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.560
<v Speaker 2>and you using sex toys.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm kind of like, I feel cheated, like I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm inteliging like I've never had a partner like suggests that, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't either. But I'm saying I don't want I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do that when you're not around, Like I just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>would you ever suggest it to a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Like to use one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Sure, if that's what you need, you should use it.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not like a prude. Just because I haven't

0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.160
<v Speaker 1>done it doesn't mean I prude. Just because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have fuck boys or fuck what do what do we

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<v Speaker 1>call it? Old fuckers? I don't know whatever we're calling it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because I haven't done that doesn't mean I'm judging

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:27.959
<v Speaker 1>anybody who does it. I think it's great. I just

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what does it for me. I I like

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 1>need intimacy, But I can't say that, Like if someone

0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.000
<v Speaker 1>suggested it, I would say no, to be honest, But

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<v Speaker 1>you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Women our age. I don't know. Maybe it's just the

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<v Speaker 2>way I grew up. I have grown out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna be honest. There's a lot of freedom

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<v Speaker 2>that in my mind, the older I get them more like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what you think. I'm doing what I want.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, But I think a lot of women feel

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<v Speaker 2>that it's shameful to have sex choice, it's shameful to

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<v Speaker 2>have more than one sexual partner at a time. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying I do or I don't. I'm I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>it is those that's shame. I don't think it's attached

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<v Speaker 2>to men, not at all. Well, I get tired of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, I mean, this is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>long evolution to change society's feelings about the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>women having sex and men having We've come along with

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<v Speaker 1>come a long way. We have a whole other generation,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe more.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you say fuck boy, that's why I like

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<v Speaker 2>senior fuckers. It can be male or female.

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<v Speaker 1>Not old fuckers, right, not old fuckers male or female.

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<v Speaker 2>No, oh, that's a state of mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, never senior fuckers fuckers. I think that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>so we talk about like retirement communities and how it's

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<v Speaker 1>so prevalent. So I think that amongst us we all

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.119
<v Speaker 1>think it's okay. I think we're afraid that our younger

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<v Speaker 1>generation or the younger kids are actually going to think

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<v Speaker 1>badly about us, because we don't feel badly about each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, go for it. I'm glad for you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like that with my friends. I think we're worried

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<v Speaker 1>about the younger generation. We're worried about what our kids

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<v Speaker 1>are going to think about not each other thinks about us.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to. I don't anymore. But I think part

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<v Speaker 2>of that is is, you know, the hard stop on

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<v Speaker 2>my marriage. I mean, when you know, one day it

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<v Speaker 2>was done, the next day wasn't, and so it took

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<v Speaker 2>me a long time when he died. You and I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this, the thought of having sex. You guys,

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<v Speaker 2>it was you might as well said it. And right

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<v Speaker 2>after you have sex, we're flying into the moon. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was so far from It took years to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the right place, but I did get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So the next the next thought I have. These

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 2>are all things you know, I stay up late night

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:27.399
<v Speaker 2>thinking about just in case, you know, when I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>having sex, is what.

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<v Speaker 1>You're thinking about all night long about Goldberg and what

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm like, I want the I want the list

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<v Speaker 2>of men where she get him. I want her cast offs.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know, I told you this earlier in the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of female friends who sex drive

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<v Speaker 2>hasn and and part of it is, you know, estrogen,

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<v Speaker 2>they're out of hormones and or they're just they don't

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<v Speaker 2>care anymore, they haven't used it. So I what what

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 2>advice would you give to one. I think there is

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<v Speaker 2>some truth too. If you don't use it, you lose it.

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<v Speaker 2>And they want connection but they don't. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't take a hormone, pellets or anything. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>we either know, I just don't. I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure if I can give advice because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the problem. But the thought to me

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<v Speaker 1>is that if you feel safe and you feel loved,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have that intimate connection, I'm surprised you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that feeling, like you know, I'd like to get

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<v Speaker 1>a little closer to this person. I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>do this in the bedroom instead of sit there watching

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>a movie like there there's the next level, Like you

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.439
<v Speaker 1>can only get to a certain level with a person

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<v Speaker 1>if you are not will William willing to have a

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<v Speaker 1>more intimate relationship, like I think it stops.

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<v Speaker 2>But see, I think women, and we talked about this earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's so much tied up. A woman may

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<v Speaker 2>say I have low sex thrive, but maybe really what's

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 2>going on because we're all about women. Unfortunately, it's our bodies,

0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 2>our face, our hair, how do we look, do we

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:00.680
<v Speaker 2>look our age, you want to look younger. You think

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 2>men's that are on have these conversations. That's the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing about safety.

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Like, if you feel safe like this, I'm not going

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to be judged because we have a relationship that's big

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 1>enough or good enough that I feel safe with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So no matter what, if you know, but if you

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:16.360
<v Speaker 1>seem undressed and my boobs aren't up to hear, they're

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>down to hear, like it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a lot of work. I think a lot

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 2>of women who aren't in a relationship want to be touched.

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>And that can be any kind of touch. It could

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<v Speaker 2>be a massage, it can be a foot massage, it

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:33.160
<v Speaker 2>can be getting a pedicure.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that too, But I think that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to culminate in what did you say before, It

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to culminate end. It doesn't have to know

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 2>the ending, It does not have to end, you know.

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Just the physical touch.

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:54.959
<v Speaker 2>And I think again, I think women need to You

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<v Speaker 2>and I are pretty self confident women. But even if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not confident, there is nothing wrong with finding alternative

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<v Speaker 2>ways to have that physical connection. Touch and you know

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 2>what you might find you, but one might find that

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 2>if you can get a little bit out of your

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 2>comfort zone and try, it's not as scary, you know,

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 2>as what you women sometimes have convinced themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I somewhat feel like there may be two separate matters.

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 2>So can I want a massage right now?

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<v Speaker 1>That the thought, I know, where's the I don't know

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>it's the sweet with the massage. I do feel like

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>they are kind of two separate things. But I feel

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 1>like in the end, to have a really good relationship

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you have to have both. You have to have the

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 1>physical and the emotional intimacy. And I feel like like

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a woman that says I crave touch, but I don't

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>want to have sex with a man. There are great alternatives,

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>like you said, like a massage or having Like I

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 1>love having my feet rubbed. It feels so good. It's

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>it like it like brings me down to like another level.

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Like if I'm having a bad day or whatever, I

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>get a foot massage, I'm happy for a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm going to say that all of this talk

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 2>has made me want to get back in the saddle.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in the next ten minute saddle you're calling it

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the saddle. Well, no, I've just finish that that thought

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit because I feel like otherwise you just

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>have a friend and nothing.

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 2>You know that there's anything wrong. It's a friend with benefits.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever heard of it?

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm thinking about a friend without benefits. So like,

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>let's say you were in a relationship with a person

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 1>and the man really wants to have sex and you

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.159
<v Speaker 1>really don't. Well, that guy's you a friend now, and

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>he's going to consider you just a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>We've covered a lot of topics here, you like talking

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<v Speaker 2>about sex toys.

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 1>Now we're going I know where you're going with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty nine First, before we get into it, no pun

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 2>intended is sixty nine. When you hear that and we're

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 2>sexually talking about sixty nine, do you think of one

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<v Speaker 2>on top of the other or side by side? I've

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I literally have been taking a poll in the last month.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and we talked about this yesterday, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the weirdest thing. And I think it's one on top

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of the other, but I don't know. So then let

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>me just say, hold on, wait, it's side. It's got

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>to be side by side because it's sixty nine. If

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 1>it's on top, then it's eleven, And it's not called eleven.

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 1>It just depends on your point of view.

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>It is not called eleven. It is called your.

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Point of you. Side by side is eleven to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Side by side one one, that's sixteen.

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Clearly you've never partaken if you just said that, girlfriend.

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I have never partaken in it.

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, oh, there's a news flash.

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna please do not make that the headline. I

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 1>sound like a really big crude and I'm really not.

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't. But here's the thing I had never ever

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 2>to me sixty nine. I mean I literally had to

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 2>draw a graphic for someone like they didn't get it.

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>They didn't get it. Oh, I get it, I understand

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>how So then.

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<v Speaker 2>They go, no, it's one on top of you, and

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I went, that's eleven. No it's not.

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Side by side's eleven? What on top is a sixueting?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? We got to wrap this up because

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<v Speaker 2>I need to go draw you a diagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how it works. I know how it works. Okay,

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that's an intimate act?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Gosha like probably one of the most yeah, I

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>think for me. And we had this conversation requires way

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>too much concentration to be doing and receiving at the

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>same time. Is just a lot?

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh you mean two finishes at the same time?

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Can connect finish, connect the neck, connect down the stretch?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I don't know, but this whole conversation's made

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>me very horny John, So I got wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're in a room of mostly women here one

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>guy's married.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, enough of this silliness. Listen, are you getting back

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<v Speaker 2>in the saddle? There's that word again? But feeling nervous

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<v Speaker 2>and need advice? Call us or email us. All the

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