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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. I am Lisa

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Speaker 2: gar and my guest is Michelle Welch. Your latest book

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Speaker 2: is called a Psychics Handbook, Methods and Advice for Communicating

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Speaker 2: with Spirits. We were talking before the break about a

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Speaker 2: being that came over your husband that was an honorary

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Speaker 2: not a friendly, well intentioned energy. How do you remove

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Speaker 2: that or uninvite that frequency, especially if it was attracted

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Speaker 2: by someone else who might have been in alignment with that?

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Speaker 3: Right, First of all, I don't believe he was in

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Speaker 3: alignment with that, and I don't want it, But could

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Speaker 3: he have brought that? When we're ill? Sometimes we're in

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Speaker 3: a week in state. So I do think we need

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Speaker 3: to protect ourselves a little bit more if some of

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Speaker 3: these little nasty, insidious spirits since some sort of weakness.

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Speaker 3: As far as I have an interesting story of somebody

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Speaker 3: I read for it and I got permission to talk

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Speaker 3: about this just the other day, Lisa. So she brought home,

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Speaker 3: She came home and she was taking a shower. This

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Speaker 3: answers your question a little bit what we do about it?

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Speaker 3: She contacted me. She's I've done readings for her for

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Speaker 3: a long time, and her shower just that glass, that

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Speaker 3: tempered glass or whatever just shattered. Now, normally I don't

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Speaker 3: like to put fear in people. And I'm like, okay, well,

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Speaker 3: it sounds like you need a new shower door. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Just going to assume.

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Speaker 3: But immediately she sent me a picture, and immediately in

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Speaker 3: the photo, I sensed something in the photo. And it's

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Speaker 3: not like me to just go dark to the darkest

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Speaker 3: thing immediately.

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Speaker 4: That is not how I operate usually. But there was something.

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Speaker 3: And I've never given this message, but I said, there's

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Speaker 3: something with the.

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Speaker 4: Lotion or face cream you're using.

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Speaker 3: And she said, OMG, and she oh, oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: She gets back, she goes, I just got a.

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Speaker 4: Brand up scream and a brand new lotion. I'm just

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Speaker 4: brought it home.

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Speaker 3: And I said, well, now I'm not saying that everything,

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Speaker 3: but everything has energy, right, And so I said, well,

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Speaker 3: how much was it? Because I really feel like something

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Speaker 3: came in with that. She didn't intentionally invite it, She

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Speaker 3: didn't intentionally bring that in. But and I note that

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Speaker 3: sounds maybe bizarre. But everything has energy and can pick up,

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Speaker 3: so we need to clear it right, and we're not.

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Speaker 4: All the time.

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Speaker 3: We don't need to all the time be using Sage

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Speaker 3: twenty four to seven, but playing uplifting music potentially, or

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Speaker 3: singing or humming or things that keep us lighter in

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Speaker 3: our house. And so she was, I said, you can

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Speaker 3: put some of the Florida water in it if you want,

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Speaker 3: because the ones that I know of don't have carcinogens

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Speaker 3: in them, so I don't want to, you know.

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Speaker 4: But you have to be careful of Florida water.

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Speaker 3: And so she's like, no, I'm just getting rid of it.

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Speaker 3: And so she didn't invite that home with her. And

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Speaker 3: that's I believe the only time I've and are such

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Speaker 3: a reading. But I do say when you bring things

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Speaker 3: into your house, clear them. I mean, if you don't

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Speaker 3: know where they're from, and how can you clear it,

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Speaker 3: You can just hold them your hands, or even play

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Speaker 3: a singing bowl around it, or just the music. There

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Speaker 3: were the tones we were talking about earlier. There's so

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Speaker 3: many ways to just even if we didn't invite things

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Speaker 3: in our house. Now, some people I think get and

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Speaker 3: even people I warn against this when I teach. Some

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Speaker 3: people so badly want to connect with something and I

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Speaker 3: don't know why, Okay, you no, like it's like you

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Speaker 3: really want to be like this, But they so badly

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Speaker 3: that they might fall for connecting with maybe something that's

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Speaker 3: not in their best interest. And I don't know how

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Speaker 3: many intentionally do that. Not that many that I would

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Speaker 3: work with that or I know, but maybe, and so

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Speaker 3: we would then need to do an internshiptic clearing of them,

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Speaker 3: saying they're possessed.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going that far.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying that we can bring things home with us,

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Speaker 3: little icky and even little hitchhickers on our body and

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Speaker 3: dentist and I use the nitrous or whatever they put

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Speaker 3: that up the stuff because or if you take medications

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Speaker 3: or if you're put under, try to take something and

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Speaker 3: tell the doctors and nurses always take black turmaline or

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Speaker 3: shungaie with me. And definitely, whatever your form those people

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Speaker 3: who are listening, whatever your form of intention setting, our

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Speaker 3: prayers are just for your safety because you're not really

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Speaker 3: in control of that conscious self when you're in those states.

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Speaker 4: How believe that's helpful?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really helpful. How would you know, though, How

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Speaker 2: would you know if it's an illentent? Like she wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have related to the shower door to the face cream ever.

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Speaker 3: No, never, And you don't always text someone to know

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Speaker 3: right away. So I believe the best way to know

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Speaker 3: is this every single day.

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Speaker 4: That's the best answer I can give.

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Speaker 3: Every single day, maybe multiple times a day. Do the

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Speaker 3: energetic body scan where you check how do I feel emotionally?

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Speaker 4: And do it in your home. It just becomes a habit,

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Speaker 3: If you're going around saying mantras and positive things and affirmations,

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Speaker 3: becomes a habit just to say, how do I feel

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Speaker 3: emotionally right now? How do I feel spiritually? How do

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Speaker 3: I feel mentally? How do I feel physically? So we

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Speaker 3: can you know that's your energy, and you can mind

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Speaker 3: and manage your own energy. Then if you perceive something

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Speaker 3: to be a little off, then you might need to

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Speaker 3: address it.

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Speaker 4: And I do address it. I'll say what do you want?

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Speaker 3: Like out lapped, But for her and somebody who hasn't

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Speaker 3: studied it as much or maybe just as do.

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Speaker 4: I believe that it could be that somebody could have a.

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Speaker 3: Super wonderful being around them, and they don't aren't even

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Speaker 3: aware that they have a super wonderful being around them.

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Speaker 3: But the best way, in my opinion, is for everybody

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Speaker 3: just to always be mindful of their own energy would

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Speaker 3: be the best way.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: If we need to clear and protect and and do

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Speaker 3: things to take care of that, sure, we've got all

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Speaker 3: kinds of ways to help with that.

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Speaker 4: And again, I don't want to spread for your That's

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Speaker 4: not what I'm about. But it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: She got rid of it, and it was much better

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Speaker 3: in there, and I said some intention setting, I lit

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Speaker 3: and it's gone. But it's the first time in a

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Speaker 3: And I guess I tell the story too, because there

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Speaker 3: are there are beings that are have mal intent, and

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Speaker 3: then there's and I don't believe in any way she

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Speaker 4: How you get rid of those though? So with her,

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Speaker 4: they're not they're not that.

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Speaker 3: If that album is a pretty pretty serious one, you

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Speaker 3: can do what I really don't underestimate using tools to

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Speaker 3: is known as my ward and you could if you can.

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Speaker 3: Now not everybody can light candles or incense in there.

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Speaker 3: If you're renting or you have your an apartment, you

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Speaker 3: need to check your lease because you can't always light

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Speaker 3: you know, sage or incense.

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Speaker 4: But even whatever you believe.

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Speaker 3: The person dealing with it believes it doesn't have to

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Speaker 3: believe be what everyone else believes. Like you know, if

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Speaker 3: I'm saying uh I read for people like ah that

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Speaker 3: are in Abu dabi things like that, they're not necessarily

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Speaker 3: going to believe the way I believe. So I say,

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Speaker 3: play uplifting music. You may need to sage, and you

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Speaker 3: really may need to do a clearing.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing though. The other thing to take an

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Speaker 3: Get contacted by people who say stuff's going on in

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Speaker 3: their house and I think there's a there's the land.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't think there is the land.

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Speaker 3: There's the spirit of the land and things that have

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Speaker 3: in a sense the bones of our ancestors and things

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Speaker 3: may have happened on that land that we don't know about.

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Speaker 3: And then there might be the structure on the land,

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Speaker 3: or building. So you really need to be aware and

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Speaker 3: do energetic hygiene, spiritual hygiene, cleaning up and clutter, just

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Speaker 3: playing and you don't have to spend a lot of money,

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Speaker 3: but sprays if you can't use incense, playing singing bowls

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Speaker 3: wonderful way.

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Speaker 2: You are in Texas right And I think I heard

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Speaker 2: a story about during these floods that happened that some

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Speaker 2: enormous amount during those floods. How are things there right now?

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Speaker 4: Well, I you know.

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Speaker 3: I think I told you that I knew one of

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're asking? How people are doing or

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Speaker 3: they're doing better? I mean, but there was a lot

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Speaker 3: the human factor of it and not who's to blame.

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Speaker 3: Later, Because they lost a lot of these people lost

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Speaker 3: their children and people were just swept away in an instant, And.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we should go straight to who's to blame?

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Speaker 3: And so that believe there was so much support and outpouring.

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Speaker 3: There were red ribbons that everybody tied on the trees,

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Speaker 4: Whole bunch of love and support and love sounds.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that I think is so important

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Speaker 4: To love and support each other than to.

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Speaker 3: Argue constantly over and just find a common ground like that.

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Speaker 3: Tali Ama says, you know what, let's start with something

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Speaker 3: we can agree with instead of everything we disagree about.

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Speaker 3: And I believe that did help the people in Texas,

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Speaker 3: especially the ones that the one I knew.

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Speaker 2: Is there a ritual or something that you can do

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Speaker 2: to like we were talking about removing spirits. Do you

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Speaker 2: think that there's something that you can do in the

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Speaker 2: area or areas like that, or if maybe someone's had

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Speaker 2: difficulties with their house and difficulties in their year something

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Speaker 2: like that to remove the spirits, Like could you help

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Speaker 2: remove the spirits from the Texas floods? Could you suggest

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Speaker 2: something that we could do to remove negative energies maybe

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Speaker 2: in our homes or our families using some of these

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Speaker 2: things like black sage and Florida water and black turmalin

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Speaker 2: turmaloi turmaline. Sorry.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. First of all, we want to make sure that

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Speaker 3: it is again, do the energy body scan, right. We

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Speaker 3: want to make sure we're minding our energy. We don't

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Speaker 3: have to be perfect, that's the first thing I say.

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Speaker 3: But then I'm a real big believer in transmuting energy.

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Speaker 3: So black turmaline absorbs energy, it deflects it, and this

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Speaker 3: is my first book, but it also transmutes. It's said right,

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Speaker 3: So schorrel is what it's technically known as. And so

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Speaker 3: I got to thinking during the pandemic, I got to thinking, well,

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Speaker 3: if black turmaline can do that, so can we and transmuting.

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Speaker 4: The form of that energy. But it takes a lot

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Speaker 3: So the tools are helpful in the meantime, and I

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Speaker 3: lead us to the same result. You don't have to

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Speaker 3: do all of it. And so as far as the flooding,

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Speaker 3: I believe in a lot of blessings and blessing the

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Speaker 3: land and honoring the land, not what happened.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying saying thank you that these people were.

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Speaker 3: Harmed, but going in and not always thinking that we're

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Speaker 3: going to re move everything. So there's a place a

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Speaker 3: paranormal groups had come to try to clear the land.

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Speaker 3: A husband and a wife lived in the house there

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Speaker 4: To clear it didn't work, and there was also some

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Speaker 3: It was kind of funny, actually, the husband's electric toothbrush

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Speaker 3: And so we said instead we're going to honor because

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Speaker 3: it ended up being a well, not a technical trail

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Speaker 3: was also a slave cemetery on that property, and so

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Speaker 3: we honored that land instead of clearing that way and

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Speaker 3: paid honor and put us had put flowers on these

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Speaker 3: hymn stunts. There were just little rocks or little you know,

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Speaker 3: not it was sad it's and make it prettier and

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Speaker 3: go out there and clean it up and say you

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Speaker 3: know this, I'm sorry what you went through, this was

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Speaker 3: your And then for the Native Americans, honoring them instead

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Speaker 3: of just assuming that we're going to always go in

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Speaker 3: and clear it all out, because it may be that

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Speaker 3: they were there first and all they want is a

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Speaker 3: little you know, to say acknowledgement.

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Speaker 4: Right now.

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Speaker 3: Of course there's going to be times where we need

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Speaker 3: to clear, but all a lot of people had gone

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Speaker 3: out there trying to clear the land, and uh immediately

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Speaker 3: we were like.

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Speaker 4: No, that's we need to honor the land, right Uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: So so first you know, determining what what where our

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Speaker 3: house sits or where, and then even going into a home,

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Speaker 3: you know, is it or or is it a thought

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Speaker 3: form of fear that we're creating because we keep putting

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Speaker 3: a lot of energy into fear and fear and fear

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Speaker 3: or is it uh in breaking it down into what's

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Speaker 3: really going on in this home instead of always jumping

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Speaker 3: to a conclusion that's bad or that it's good and

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Speaker 3: determining the energy that way.

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Speaker 4: But as fur as I would say, it depends on

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Speaker 4: how much you like ritual. If somebody really likes ritual use.

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Speaker 4: And I've talked to she one of my really good friends.

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Speaker 3: She's a medicine woman with the Lakota, and so we

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Speaker 3: always run things by her. You know, we don't want

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Speaker 3: to appropriate anything and with our stores, and so we

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Speaker 3: would run by and the chief of her tribe would

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Speaker 3: would say, we love it that you honor us, but

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Speaker 3: you also can use the sage and the clearing. That's

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Speaker 3: not appropriation for the at least according to him, it

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Speaker 3: was like, use whatever you need to do, as long

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Speaker 3: as you're honoring what you're working with. And so, but

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Speaker 3: if it's something really that someone's intentionally brought in because

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Speaker 3: of anger, I will tell you at least one time

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Speaker 3: I did that a little bit wasn't Here's what happened.

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Speaker 3: I was pretty angry. It's in my book, and I

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Speaker 3: got permission to talk about it. And I was angry

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Speaker 3: going through a divorce, right, So I got all these

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Speaker 3: candles and I just started lighting these candles and putting

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Speaker 3: herbs in them, very irresponsibly.

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Speaker 4: This is a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: And my mentor told me, you're grinding for from candles

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Speaker 3: for a year. Oh and she grounded me from candles

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Speaker 3: for a year. Because I was so angry. I brought

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Speaker 3: so I created this thought forum of sorts with all

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Speaker 3: that anger and all those candles. So she's like, first

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Speaker 3: of all, you're not going to work with candles for

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Speaker 3: a year. And here's the funny thing.

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Speaker 4: I was like, but I have my mind's eye candle.

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Speaker 4: I said, I can do that. I put my candle

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Speaker 4: in my mind's eye and she's.

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Speaker 3: Like, no, you're not working with candles, but just watching

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Speaker 3: energy and the Again, what's love to one person and

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Speaker 3: right to one person.

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Speaker 4: We've seen this in our country.

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Speaker 3: We may not all agree with this is high vibe

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Speaker 3: or this is low vibe, but knowing where we're at

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Speaker 3: in our energy and then using tools if we need

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Speaker 3: to sage.

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Speaker 4: Black sage is known as mug ward. It's quite potent.

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Speaker 3: And actually think about churches how they use the incense

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Speaker 3: they for blessings and for clearings.

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