1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: your bets. It is me JOEYP Joe Pizipia and this 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: is BP NFL. It's time to look ahead to the 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: best bets for week four in the NFL. We're still 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: in the early stages, still learning a lot about the 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: teams and certainly a lot to glean from week three. 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: It's a lot of upsets, a lot of things that 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: maybe we did not see coming. 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It can't possibly upgrade anymore 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: than my co hosts here, So we're just gonna jump 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: into things here right away. To Ralph Furman, let's start 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: with the Steelers. It's a game that Andrew Erics and 30 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: I already jumped on early. In case you missed the 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: look Ahead show, It's on the YouTube channels on the 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: podcast weed go back, listen and watch. Andrew and I 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: jumped on this one right away. But I want to 34 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts as the three and oh Steelers bring 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: Justin Fields into down to face the Indianapolis Colts. 36 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm on the same side as you all 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: in that aspect of it is Tomlin. It's a short 38 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: a short spread, it means a close game, and Tomlin 39 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: in close games is good money. But I decided for 40 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: the people, I might as well give out an extra 41 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: bit something else that I like, so the people always 42 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: have extra sweat so under forty in this game, because ah, 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: I think that once we start getting into the thirties 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: of the totals, people start to say, oh, that's kind 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: of lote. We need to hop in on the over. 46 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: We need to be contrarian here, and this is not 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: the spot to do it. In fact, both of these 48 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: two teams are five and one to the under at 49 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 2: this number this season combined, so there's nothing here. Anthony 50 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: Richardson probably might not be a good quarterback. Like, there's 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: a possible real situation and if I know that I 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: can get to the goal line and potentially walk away 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: with zero points because Anthony Richardson wants to lob the 54 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: ball up and just let anybody go up there and 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: get it, then absolutely I want in on the under 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: in that situation. Justin Fields has struggled to finish drives 57 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: over the course of the season. I'm not going to 58 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: hold him from that very very real criticism that they're having. 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: But it's this defense, TJ. Watt, and this defense keeps 60 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: them in the game every single time. And I'm one 61 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: hundred percent going to back that. I don't think it's 62 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: going to be a lot of points. Score is forty. 63 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be closer to thirty. So yes, 64 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: I'm all in on the under forty. 65 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't remember who said it with me. It might 66 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: have been Bogman, it might have been you Erickson do 67 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: a lot of shows with a lot of people. But 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: the conversation was what Anthony Richardson needs is reps. But unfortunately, 69 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: right now it's those hard reps where you're just making 70 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: a ton of mistakes and things aren't going well. And 71 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: it's funny because at the other end of the game 72 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: you got Justin Field, who is finally in a situation 73 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 1: it feels like where things are going in the right way. 74 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: You see the completion percentage go up. You see like 75 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: every week he seems to get a little bit more confident, 76 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: a little bit further removed from the PTSD of playing 77 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: for the Bears. Richardson's so dangerous, Andrew that any moment 78 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: he can make a play. But you and I have 79 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: been on the Steelers since Monday morning. I'm still on 80 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers. Are you still on the Steelers? Andrew? Yeah? 81 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: Because the Steelers are still minus one, still can get 82 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: minus one and a half. 83 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Right. 84 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: I thought we was talking about how this line was 85 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: going to move to Steelers minus three, and at least 86 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: what I've seen is it's not moved yet. It's still 87 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: minus one and a half. So I still like the value. 88 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: And this is about being right, not about giving more 89 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: and more picks. I want to be right on this show, 90 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: so I'm just gonna continue to back the Steelers at 91 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: minus one and a half. Look talking about how good 92 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: the Steelers are on the road twelve and six against 93 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: the spread in their last eighteen road games, five and 94 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: four against the spread and the money line on the 95 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: road since the start of last season. And the one 96 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: thing that going back to last year was Shane Steichen 97 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: and this Colts team, they don't win when they're not favored. 98 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: They don't they don't win these games. So when they're 99 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: the underdog, they lose the game. You look at Colts games, 100 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: the favorites have won fourteen of the colts last fifteen games. 101 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: So they're not the team that you want to back 102 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 3: as an underdog, even though they're playing at home. And 103 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: going back to Richardson, he leads the NFL and turnover 104 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 3: worthy play rate. You know who ranks first in that 105 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 3: in terms of the least amount of turner over worthy 106 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: plays is Justin Fields. So again, it's way easier to 107 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: not press when you're winning in games and when you're 108 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: having leads. They don't need Justin Fields to be a superhero, 109 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: but that's what they need with Anthony Richardson right now 110 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: because their defense can't get off the field and I 111 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: can't stop anybody, especially the runs. So I look at 112 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: this matchup and you have the most the team that 113 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: wants to run the ball more than anything else against 114 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: the league's worst run defense with the Colts, so minus 115 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: one and a half, when Justin Fields doesn't even have 116 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: to do that much, and you're putting so much on 117 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: Anthony Bridger. He has to be superman in this game 118 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: for the Colts to win. So I just like the 119 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: Steelers so much in this spot. 120 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: I think the line hasn't moved because of the health 121 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: of the backfield of the Steelers. I mean, I'm just 122 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: gonna put it more the line because the offensive line 123 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: as well. Like I think those two combinations, and I 124 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: think there's rightfully so a little bit of panic in 125 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: the marketplace, but I don't see it being enough where 126 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm concerned that Tom and the Steelers can't go in 127 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: there and win this game by a field goal easily. Like, 128 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: That's That's where I'm at with it. So I think 129 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: that's why the line hasn't moved is the injuries have 130 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: kept it close enough where people are like, oh, maybe 131 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: there's some value here, you know with the you know 132 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: home dogs here Indianapolis, you know, playmaking ability all that. 133 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: But I get that sense that's where things are at, Terrell. 134 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Let's get to a big game here between the Vikings 135 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: and the Greeners. Now, the Vikings have handled their business 136 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: in green Bay the last couple of years. That was 137 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: with Kirk cousin Zoe. Now you're getting Sam Darnold and 138 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: look they're three to zero. The Packers have done everything 139 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: you could have asked for them to do with Malik 140 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: Willis these last couple of weeks, winning both games. I mean, 141 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: you can't be happier than Matt Lafloor right now. And 142 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: the way that this team has performed, they did not 143 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: crumble under that situation. The road game didn't matter. They 144 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: showed up. So what's your take on this game here? 145 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: How do you want to approach it? Because I know 146 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: you've got it. Earmark as one of your favorites of 147 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: the week. 148 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Brian floor Is Revenge Tour is continuing long. 149 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: We made stops on the Revenge Tour. It kicked off 150 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: in Miami a few years ago, and then we delayed, 151 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: and we delayed, and we delayed. We had pitt stop 152 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: over in Pittsburgh and then delayed, delayed, delay. But now 153 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: Houston gone, don't worry about them, say it, Fran, get 154 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: out of here, MVP. Yeah right, I'm gonna show you 155 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: a defense. My scheme is crazy, right, Yeah, I'm gonna 156 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: show you a crazy scheme. All right. And then I mean, 157 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: well New York was easy. He didn't even have to 158 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: try there, he didn't even have. 159 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: To show up. He didn't also, so. 160 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: Why am I thinking he's gonna do anything like Matt Lafleur. 161 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: If you make Malik Willis look better than c. J. 162 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: Stroud and Rock Perty and I won't even mention the 163 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: third quarterbacks name against this Vikings defense, then you're you 164 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: know what, You're the quarterback whisper. I'll go ahead and 165 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: anoint you the quarterback whisper. You did it. But as 166 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: of right now, Brian Flores got called a bully by 167 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: Tua and said that he was hurt into his feelings 168 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: while he was his coach, and now Brian Flores is like, 169 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: all right, now, I got to prove to the league 170 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: who I am as a defensive coordinator and put it 171 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: on every single young rookie like he's absolutely he's got 172 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: them flustered. C J. Stroud was an amazing quarterback last year, 173 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: and he looked like he didn't even know what to 174 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: do against a. 175 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: Guy who's performed against the Blitz this year. And what 176 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: he puts like sixty seven percent at the time last week, 177 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: I think I saw that number was insane, and yes, 178 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: it was like, you know what, I don't care. I'm 179 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: just going to keep bringing the pressure. And he brought 180 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: from a lot of different places too, which was very 181 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: cool to see. We bring in Aaron Jones, who wanted 182 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: to be back here in Green Bay. He wanted to 183 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: stay in Green Bay. Green Bay didn't want him back. 184 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: He was forced out. He didn't want to go to Minnesota. 185 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: He wanted to stay in Green Bay. I think this 186 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: is the Aaron Jones revenge game. I think they're going 187 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: to run the ball really well. Sam Darnold is going 188 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: to do enough, but that defense is going to steal 189 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: the show. I think Milik Willis is going. 190 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: To look like who everybody thought Milik Willis was going 191 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: to look like when he first got to Green Bay. 192 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 2: And now, like, I think there's a coach on the 193 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: other side who has taken players who I in the 194 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: beginning of the season didn't think would make a great defense, 195 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: but he's coaching up an amazing scheme. This is all 196 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: about the Vikings defense. For me, I think that the 197 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: Packers aren't gonna be able to move the football. The 198 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: Vikings are going to do enough and get this winning 199 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: Green Bay. 200 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like where your heads at And I kind 201 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: of think the same way. And look, I'm old enough 202 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: to remember Brian Flores as a player, and I know 203 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: what kind of intensity that dude brings. And I remember 204 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: him as an assistant on Patriots, remember him all the 205 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: way through, And I think this is a great opportunity 206 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: here for him to re establish himself in that market. 207 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: I'd like to see him get another look as a 208 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: head coach, because I do think you got a raw 209 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: deal in Miami. All right, let's get to the next 210 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: one on our list, ericson what do you have as 211 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: your second pick here? For this game that may or 212 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: may not be played this weekend too. Just want to 213 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: put that out there, depending on the weather of how 214 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: things are going here. 215 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 3: Well, if they don't play, that means they don't score 216 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: any points. So that mays that means the under is. 217 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Kind of hit. 218 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: So Tampa Bay filled out. 219 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: There's a moment of zen everybody watching the show today. 220 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Philadelphia under forty four and a half points. 221 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: I'm following the trends here, looking at the Eagles, what 222 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: they've done on the road, their last six road games 223 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: gone under the total. Look at their last twelve three 224 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: and nine towards the over on the road in Tampa 225 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: Bay traditionally has been a team that you don't score 226 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: a lot of points at home, average fewer than thirty 227 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: five points total at home since the beginning of last year, 228 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: two and eight record toward the over. So I like 229 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: the trends pointing to these two teams playing towards the under. 230 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: When you're having the Eagles on the road and the 231 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: Buccaneers playing at home. The Buccaneers traditionally have a very 232 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 3: good red zone defense, so they don't let teams score touchdowns, 233 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: they don't let them convert when they drive down the field. 234 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: You also have the Eagles without a lot of their 235 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: top playmakers. A. J. Brown is probably not gonna play 236 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: in this game. DeVante Smith has a concussion. Lane Johnson 237 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: has a concussion. We talk about Lane Johnson when he's 238 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: off on and off the field, the splits and how 239 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: good Jalen Hurts is with Lane Johnson. Lane Johnson didn't 240 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: play much of last week. What happened to the Eagles offense? 241 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: Wasn't there? 242 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: Right? They didn't. They don't. 243 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: They're not nearly as efficient when he doesn't play. So again, 244 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 3: not so sure exactly when these guys will clear the 245 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: concussion protocol. But I just like the under overall in 246 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: this game. I don't see these two offenses converging in Oh, 247 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: they're gonna be super explosive. Baker Mayfield is taking the 248 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: highest sack to pressure rate in the NFL. So it's 249 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: not even his offensive line's fault half the time. It's 250 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 3: when he's getting pressured. He's just taking sacks. Sacks, kill 251 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: drives and kill points to score. So I like the 252 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: under here. Again, what is I haven't seen the weather reports, Joe, 253 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 3: so can you just kind of fill me in? 254 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: Well? We're talking about the hurricane coming in here through. 255 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's supposed touchdown at some point there in 256 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: the Florida coast area, So it all depends on when 257 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: it hits land, how long it says, and all that stuff. 258 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: But if I'm the Eagles, I'm begging for this storm 259 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: because I've got no Devanta Smith, I've got no Aj Brown. 260 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: I'd rather be inconvenienced later in the year and try 261 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: to make up this game somehow and see if maybe 262 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: there's a situation where you know, the stars align and 263 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: you play this team later on. You're playing at your 264 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: worst health right now, so again it's soon to know 265 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: about that. A lot of speculation as of us recording this, 266 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: so just stay on top of things, and that's why 267 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: you set the line alerts too. Make sure you see 268 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: how things are moving too, because if they are going 269 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: to push through and the weather is an issue regardless, 270 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: but it's okay for them to play, that could change 271 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: the total a little bit too in terms of what 272 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: that number is you might get. 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We all watched Monday night, and I think 300 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: the best part of the doubleheader on Monday night is 301 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: the stagger at start time, because after whoever was still 302 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 2: watching that Bills and JAG's Gabe at that point. Kudos 303 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: to you, by the way, if you were still watching 304 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: at the end of the game, you came over and 305 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: you watched Jaydon Daniels win that game. And now everybody's 306 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: drinking the kool Aid. I mean kool Aid is at 307 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: an all time high. It's a whole pound of sugar 308 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: in there, stirred up. They actually took two packets and 309 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: made like a strawberry lemonade. Instead of just doing the 310 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: one strawberry or just maybe a peach or lemonade, they 311 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: mixed two together, put all the sugar in it, and 312 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: stirred it up. It's actually a couple of sugar particles 313 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: still sitting at the end. They're drinking it. They're all 314 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: drinking it and I one hundred percent agree. I get it. 315 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: He's really really good. This is a road spot after 316 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: a big Monday night football win on a short week 317 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: with Dan Quinn at head coach and Johnathan Cannon. I 318 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: don't know if you guys remember, but John think and 319 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: kind of ran through the NFC East last year. I 320 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: mean he lost the most important game against my New 321 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: York Football Giants and Daniel Jones of course, but other 322 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: than that, Eagles Wentz gave them an L, Cowboys gave 323 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: them an L. With Josh Dobbs like, I think this 324 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 2: is a very very good spot where a Gannon is 325 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: going to do what he's done coach up a really 326 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: really good team against the NFC East, a former division 327 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: that he's been in as a defensive coordinator for the Eagles, 328 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: and Kyler Murray is going to go out there and 329 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: give Cliff Kingsbury a piece of his mind. This is 330 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: your fault, Cliff, this is your fault. We are all 331 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: at this position because of you, Cliff, because of you, 332 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: So you know what. I think Kyler Murray is going 333 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: to show out. I think that defense is going to 334 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: have a good day. I think Commander's role. Give me 335 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: the three and a half points for sure. 336 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's stay out West a little bit here, 337 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: and let's go with the Chargers and the Kansas in 338 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: Chiefs spread that we talked about quite a bit. We 339 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: talked about Andrew on Monday. Where this line may or 340 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: may not go depending on the injuries. I'm in anticipating too, 341 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: this might be the time to pounce on some Travis 342 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: Kelce props because his all time stats against the Chargers 343 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: are all time great. If there's going to be a 344 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: breakout game, this is it. And if it's not, then 345 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: it ain't ever coming. So where are you at currently 346 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: with this game? How are you approaching it now that 347 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: you have a little bit more time to marinate on it. 348 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: I just like the under in this game. I don't 349 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: think both teams are game planning. Hey, we need to 350 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: score thirty points. The Chiefs haven't even been close to 351 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: The Chiefs have been a team that has been hitting unders. 352 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: That's the team that you look at Mahomes and you think, 353 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: oh man, high flying scoring offense. He ranks dead last 354 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: in the NFL and average s deps of target. He 355 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: is I don't want to say it, but he's turned 356 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: into a checkdown king, at least through three weeks of 357 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: the NFL's Eeason. That's what he's doing. He's just checking 358 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: the ball down and Rushi Rice that is the offensive 359 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: game plan, and running the ball with one of their 360 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 3: ten different running backs that they're using, maybe Kareem Hunt 361 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: this week. So I just like the under Overall, the 362 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: Chargers are three and zero towards the end of the season. 363 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: The Chiefs are two and one towards the over But 364 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: I just don't see the offensive firepower with the Chiefs. 365 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: Seven of the chiefs last ten games have gone under 366 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: the total nine to the last twelve. Since the start 367 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty three, the Chiefs is not allowed a 368 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: team to score twenty seven points against them, so their 369 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: defense has been solid. What do we expect from the 370 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: Chargers offense without their two starting tackles? Potentially I expect 371 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert to play this matchup, but I think it's, hey, 372 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: let's give the ball to JK. Dobbins twenty five times 373 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: and hope he rips off a big run. You know, 374 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: whether it happens or not remains to be seen. But 375 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: that doesn't tell me or suggest to me that, oh, 376 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: there's going to be points scored in bunches in this 377 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: particular matchup. So I really like the under here even 378 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: at forty. 379 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next bet that 380 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: the guys have number four for everybody. Let's talk about 381 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: the Broncos. Terrell, how are you approaching this game for 382 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: them here against the New York Jets where Look, I'm 383 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: in on the Jets side of this one, but I 384 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: want to hear your case for Denver because I think 385 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: bon Nick's running upgainst this defense is going to be 386 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of a different day at the offense 387 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: than what happened last week against Tampa. But you sell me, 388 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: sell me on the Broncos side of this game with 389 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: the points. 390 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: Well, did you see last week? That's what happens when 391 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: Sean p gets to they When Sean Payton gets to 392 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: week three and week four, his teams just figure it out. 393 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: They just figure it out and they go on through 394 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: the season. And so I think this is another situation 395 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 2: where his team went on the road and what was 396 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: a horrible spot going to Florida, hot weather road spot 397 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: for your rookie quarterback, and they absolutely dominated this Tampa 398 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: Bay Bucks team. And now we come back. We saw 399 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: what happened on Thursday night, and everybody's back on the Jets. 400 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 2: But I don't think not so fast, because this is 401 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: still the Petty Bowl. This is still the petty Bowl 402 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: between Hackett and Peyton, and I think that this is 403 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: still has a lot more to give. Last year the 404 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: Jets got to win thirty one to twenty one. Hackett 405 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: got his revenge. I think this is Peyton's turn. That's 406 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: another big angle for me. I like Peyton at this 407 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: point of the season. I like the fact that the 408 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: Jets are going to London next week. In fact, teams 409 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: who are on the look ahead to London and laying 410 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: more than four points start twelve and eighteen ats. So 411 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: this is a really really good spot that I think 412 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: that the defense is really going to be the show here. 413 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: I seen this Jets team play a really good defense 414 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: in the San Francisco forty nine ers couldn't move the football. 415 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: Seeing him against the Tennessee Titans couldn't move the football, 416 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 2: I think, here, right here, this Jet, this Broncos defense 417 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 2: with Patrick shirtsand is going to lock down Garrett Wilson. 418 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: I'm sitting him this week in fantasy Hey, the guy 419 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: that's been all talking about Garrett Wilson all off season 420 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: for the past ten off seasons. I'm sitting him this 421 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 2: week because Patrick Shirtsan is a problem and I think 422 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: he's going to be an issue, and I think that 423 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 2: they're not going to be effective running the ball the 424 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: same and so I think this is a lower scoring 425 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: Denver keeps it close game. This is a spot that 426 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 2: Sean Payton goes out there and coaches this team to 427 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: a three point loss. 428 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't think you should sit Garret Wilson, but you 429 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: need to make some adjustments to your lineup because chances 430 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: are I do agree he's gonna get. 431 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: No I sat him for Deontay Johnson. 432 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean if you have Deontay Johns, like if 433 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: it's a two wide receiver League ten team and you 434 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: got a lot of depth, Okay, that's cool. Same, I 435 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: just st look bad. He's gonna be banishing Shadow Realm 436 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: this week. I do agree with that. I love Braylan 437 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: Allen props this week too. Based on that. I think 438 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: here's the Braylan Allen just continue to work in this 439 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: offense because you are gonna lose Garrett Wilson. You'll get 440 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: Lazard props. I don't want to say Mike Williams props 441 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: out loud. I think that's a dangerous thing to say. 442 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: But Braylan Allen, look for him to continue to be 443 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: involved in that offense. I'd be looking for him. Let's 444 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: continue on here, Andrew Erickson. Let's talk about a huge 445 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: Marque matchup the Ravens and the Bills. So the Ravens 446 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: got their w on the road against Dallas. The three 447 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: and zero Bills and MVP leader Josh Allen come to town. 448 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this contest? 449 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: Underdog Josh Allen, sign me up. It worked in Week 450 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 3: two against the Miami Dolphins. I'm going to go right 451 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: back to it. Josh Allen eighteen nine to two against 452 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: the spread as an underdog sixty five percent, Lamar Jackson 453 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: as a favorite forty eight percent against the spread. Who's 454 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 3: the MVP right three weeks in? That's the guy? His 455 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: is the underdog here it is. I don't really care 456 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: that they're playing in Baltimore. P homefield advantage seems to 457 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: be a is overrated in my opinion. Again, I can't 458 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: understand where the line is coming from. But do you 459 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: think Josh Allen is, Oh no, We're going into this 460 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: hostile environment against this Baltimore Ravens defense that almost gave 461 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: up the win to the Dallas Cowboys last week. They 462 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 3: didn't shout them out what happened they you know, So 463 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 3: I think that the Bills. 464 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: Here for me. Baltimore. 465 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: Look, this is what they do a lot of the time, 466 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: especially when they play at home again, eleven to five 467 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: on the money line as home favorites, six and eleven 468 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: against the spread as home favorites. They don't set the 469 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: expectations when they played home a lot of the times. 470 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: So I just love Josh Allen here as a road 471 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: underdog again. Talked about how it worked in Week two, 472 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: not how I thought it was gonna work out against Miami, 473 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: but even before the two injury, the Bills were gonna 474 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: win that game, so I felt very confident about that. 475 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 3: So I'm just going right back to Josh Allen, the 476 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 3: MVP front runner as an underdog before we. 477 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: Get to the upset special of the week. Finally got 478 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: one last week, ring the bell, Let's get to the 479 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: last pick of the guys. Let's start with Bengals and 480 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: Panthers here for you. Torell because man Bengals back up 481 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: against the wall would be the understatement of the century, 482 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: and the Panther playing fast and loose with the red rifle. 483 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: So who comes up here? What's your approach to this game? 484 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: So sometimes when you come out here and you give 485 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: a bad pick, like Bengals laying seven, you have to 486 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: go back to the drawing board and you have to 487 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: really look inward, a lot of inward, looking into yourself 488 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: about what did I do wrong in that pick, because 489 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: the Bengals weren't in that game to ever be laying seven, 490 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: and I realized I should have just faded the defense 491 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: and took the over man. What in the world, like, 492 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: come on, this is the red rifle at his revenge game. 493 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: It's Charlotte. Of course, I need to find a way 494 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: to back the red rifle, and I don't want to 495 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: take the passers, so I'm gonna expect them to score points. 496 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 2: And even if they don't score points, there's a possibility 497 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: that Joe Burrow is really really pissed off. His scores 498 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: close to forty on this Panther's defense. So I feel 499 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: pretty safe either way. Whether this is a blowout by 500 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: the Bengals or whether the red Rifle comes in here 501 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: and says, I'm about to put two three touchdowns on 502 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: your head Cincinnati because I didn't like how things ended up. 503 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: He's been talking all week and when Bryce got bitched, 504 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 2: he said, Hey, I remember when I got bitched in Cincinnati, 505 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: and I didn't like it, and so I'm just trying 506 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: to coach him up like that. That's been heavy on 507 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: the mind recently. He's been taken back and he's been 508 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: triggered to that place when he got bitched in Cincinnati, 509 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: and now all those emotions are coming back when he's 510 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: got Cincinnati at home this week. Look, man, oh yeah, 511 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: I think the totals right over over total the right way. 512 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: But man, you know, trying to look for the Bengals 513 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: to figure things out here at that defense, it's just 514 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: been so bad. It's it's tough. It's really, I mean, 515 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: everything in my soul says the Bengals have to win 516 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: this football game, but with the way that defense is played, 517 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: I just don't know if we can get there. Yeah. 518 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: They they literally killed survivor injuries three of the. 519 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: Fourth single handedly killing hopes and juries had killing killing. 520 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: This isn't fun. 521 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't imagine taking the Bengals ever in 522 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: Survivor again. Like, to be honest, those two games like 523 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: might have quite now granted I did pick the Bats 524 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: and game, still, those two games might have quite possibly 525 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: ruined the Bengals ever going and Survivor for me. 526 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, let's get after your last one here. 527 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: Another big matchup the Seahawks and the Lions. We keep 528 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: saying every week, I can't wait to see the Seahawks 529 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: really tested. And then we thought maybe last week that 530 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: would happen with the Dolphins. We were wrong. It did 531 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: not happen. Dolphins just did not take care of enough, 532 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: horribly wrong. And I'll tell you what, I'll take the 533 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: all on this one too. But the defense is just 534 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: so bad there. I mean, they just got to figure 535 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: out they can't stop anybody. But it's funny, Andrew, I'm 536 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: on the Seattle side of this game. We talked about 537 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: this one on Monday. I'm not sure where you're at 538 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: on it. I was very gung hose Seattle here because 539 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: Detroit so far to me, has been just a little 540 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: sluggish with all these expectations so far. Where do you 541 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: stand as now we're coming to the end of the 542 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: week as we're evaluating expectations. 543 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 3: Talk about expectations. Seattle's one and two against the spread 544 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 3: despite facing bon Nicks, the Patriots who they had to 545 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: beat in overtime, and who do the plastic Oh yeah, 546 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: Skyle Thompson and Miami Dolphins. Where they did cover, where 547 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: they did cover, set. 548 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: Close the line, they actually tied, They actually pushed one 549 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 2: of those if you go. 550 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: They have hardly faced a Junger Knaut schedule to become 551 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 3: three and l at this point. And I think that 552 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: this is the classic case of Hey, this team, are 553 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 3: they for real? This is their test game, and then 554 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 3: what happens they get curbstomped when they play a team 555 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 3: that had Super Bowl aspirations entering this season. I still 556 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: think the Lions are the cream of the crop when 557 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: it comes to the NFC. I know things have been 558 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 3: a little bit bumpy for to start the year, but 559 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: I just think Dan Campbell is gonna get his guys going. 560 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 3: Mike McDonald in this defense has not been tested. I 561 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: just really don't think they've been tested by any offense 562 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 3: yet this season. Because of the teams that they have played, 563 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 3: the Lions have so many ways that they can beat 564 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: even if they don't have Sam Laporta. They can beat 565 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: you with the run, they can beat you with the pass. 566 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: They have great pass protection for Jared Goff playing at home. 567 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: I just love the Lions in the spot to really 568 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 3: have a dominant win and put the NFC on notice 569 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: and make people think twice about, Hey, how good is Seattle. Actually, 570 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: I think we're going to have a lot of takeaways 571 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 3: after Monday Night. Team. It sucks because it's on Monday. 572 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: We an't get to talk about it on the look Ahead, show. 573 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: Any concern because and this is so funny because these 574 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: teams are not in the same division. They played in 575 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: Detroit the past two seasons, and Detroit has lost both games. 576 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: Is there any like, I mean, I'm trying to play 577 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 2: them so you don't have to, you know, I'm saying 578 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: they've lost. They've lost both games, Like, and we're laying 579 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: three and a half here. It just what if what 580 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: if the Lions went by three? 581 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: Look? Man, all I could what if this is a shootout? 582 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: All I could tell you is this is definitely one 583 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: of those games where it's range of outcomes and so far, 584 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: what I'm learning about this season is one thing, which 585 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: is whenever you see something like this where it seems like, yes, 586 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: this is a game where the Lions should handle their 587 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: business and take care of stuff here. They are theoretically 588 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: the better football team. They have all the right pieces, 589 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So far, those situations have been very 590 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: dicey the year. So I'm just gonna go with the 591 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: early September trend. If this was November, I might feel 592 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: differently about that game, because I think people are still 593 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: learning who Seattle is. It's weird. It's almost giving the 594 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: Seahawks an advantage where their little bit of unknown identity 595 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: is still kind of creeping up on people. And I 596 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: don't know, because of everything that ericson pointing out there, 597 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: if we're at a point where people are, well, they're like, wow, 598 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. They beat the Patriots. Yeah, they beat the Broncos. 599 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: Who cares? And I think that's dangerous And if the 600 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: Lions are doing that, I think they might get in 601 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: a bad spot. This week. We'll see, should be a 602 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: good time once again. We'll come here and we'll own 603 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: the w's and own all the l's. I want to 604 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: talk about offset specials. That's what I want to talk 605 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: about and whenever I see a team on the road 606 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: that's an underdog that has the better coach and the 607 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: better quarterback, well my ears, purcup. And this week it's 608 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: the Rams plus one point forty on the money line 609 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 1: against the Bears. Look, I'm not sold on the Bears 610 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 1: at home. I understand that people want to make some 611 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: arguments about Caleb Williams maybe starting to play a little better, 612 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: all that whatever. That's fine. Bears defense has some moments. Okay, yeah, sure, 613 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: that's cute. But we're talking about a Rams team that 614 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: somehow rallied around Matthew Stafford and beat the San Francisco 615 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: forty nine ers in a building that was a sea 616 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: of red populated with forty nine er fans everywhere. It 617 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: was basically a road game. 618 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: I ate so much crap in the comments for the Rams. 619 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: Pick oh man, oh man. I just hope the apology 620 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: is as loud as the disrespect was. Nobody had faith 621 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 2: in to close your eyes, specially nobody. 622 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: So if you closed your eyes and you listened to Terrell, 623 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: you did it, and it was certainly a close your 624 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: eye special situation. Let me tell you, it was definitely 625 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: that feeling, and I just don't get this. I just 626 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: think the line is wrong. It's just straight up wrong here. 627 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why. Look, I get it, no Pookah, 628 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: no Cooper Cup, I get all those things. But we're 629 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: talking about what's the definition of advantage, better quarterback, better 630 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: head coach? And that goes completely to the side of 631 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: the Ram in this one. Give me the Rams to 632 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: again find a way to win. Maybe it's another late comeback, 633 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: but I just think they've got it in them. So 634 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: that's my upset special. Give me the Rams this week 635 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: and the parlay of the week. Let's take those Rams 636 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: wherever we can get them on the money line, and 637 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and add them to the Pittsburgh Steelers, 638 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: where the Boys and I are all at with that 639 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: minus one and a half, and give me the Baltimore 640 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: Ravens on the money line because I'm just gonna troll 641 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: Andrew Erickson. You put those three things together, you get 642 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: plus six point twenty six right now. So that's a 643 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: great way of taking a look at the week. 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