WEBVTT - #17 Pal-entine's Day

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<v Speaker 1>Shall we we shall, Let's go baby Hell. I Suck

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<v Speaker 1>at Dating with Dean Angler and I Heart Radio Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, thank you for joining in for help. I

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<v Speaker 1>Suck at Dating Still the title of the show. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Angler joined in studio by Mark Easton and Erica

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<v Speaker 1>Um Today. It's gonna be a bit of a Valentine's

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<v Speaker 1>Day centric episode. Yeah, because we all love Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually do. Yeah. Why because it requires you to

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<v Speaker 1>step up married couples. I'm part of a married couple.

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<v Speaker 1>It tends to get complacent after the over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't schedule as money date nights as you should.

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day, you have to schedule something. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I like it so and early in a relationship you

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<v Speaker 1>learn a lot about the guy depending on what he does.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you think that it's kind of silly though, that

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<v Speaker 1>we need one day every year to be like listen, listen, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta get your together and set up a nice

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<v Speaker 1>date for your your girlfriend, your wife with ever to

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<v Speaker 1>I get that, but I'm not as anti Valentine's Day

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<v Speaker 1>as some people are. You anti Valentine's I'm anti Valentine's

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<v Speaker 1>Day for the fact of I mean, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you should be doing nice yesterdays occasionally. Understand it. We're

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<v Speaker 1>obviously been married twenty years, so I can understand it's

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<v Speaker 1>nice to like have an event, to be like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go out and have a nice dinner and

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<v Speaker 1>do all this. Um, I just hate like the crowds.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate like the cliche of it all. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going to dinner, waiting fixed menus, I hate prefixed I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they're great, but it's like you could do that

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<v Speaker 1>any other day of the week for you know, af

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<v Speaker 1>fractional costs, and I think it's on a Wednesday. So

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<v Speaker 1>you'll either go out the weekend before the weekend after right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go out on Valentine's I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we will, really, I don't think so. So you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go out on a Saturday night and be like, listen

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<v Speaker 1>to Amy, this is your Valentine's Day date. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put it that way. We will decide together when

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<v Speaker 1>because Wednesday night, Brooklyn's got gymnastics alleys got tracked. There's

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<v Speaker 1>just too much going on on a Wednesday evening with

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<v Speaker 1>work the next day. Just not going to happen. We're

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<v Speaker 1>in a similar problem because my wife works at a

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<v Speaker 1>church and Wednesday Valentine's da is ash Wednesday. It's a big,

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<v Speaker 1>big day, so she's going to have the ashes on

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<v Speaker 1>her forehead, she's gonna have to work really late. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're still going out. So because Black Panther opens the

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<v Speaker 1>next weekend, I'm booked. IM spoking for um and Eric.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you? I have a huge Valentine's Day plans,

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<v Speaker 1>don't kid Well, I do. It's dinner and drinks with

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<v Speaker 1>my single girlfriends. Yeah, which is cool and I'm fine

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But I'm not a big like Valentine's person

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<v Speaker 1>in general, Like, never even in relationships, done a big

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day. How come there's no like Malan Melanine's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>I call it Pine Palentine. That kind of sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>we're Palestinians Palentine. Um, I don't know. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that I think it's great that you guys are going

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<v Speaker 1>out on different nights. Then for Eastern Eastern's going out

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<v Speaker 1>on ash Wednesday maybe more interesting. But maybe it may

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<v Speaker 1>be the kids that prevent the weekday. Why don't they

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<v Speaker 1>have my kids? Yeah? Um, they're Ali's eleven in Brooklyn's eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're us kind of. Allie's noticing boys. She has

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<v Speaker 1>a crush. Yeah, do you remember the first one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first claus we had was Zoe, my middle school

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend and my first girlfriend. You remember the reason that

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<v Speaker 1>she broke up with me? No, it's because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>plan a Valentine's Day date when we were ten years old. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>we're eleven years old. So I'm just saying, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the age where that stuff starts to like, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a story about Alie. A boy, a seventh grade boy,

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<v Speaker 1>approached her. She's in sixth grade. There was a dance,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have the sixth grade dance separate from the

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<v Speaker 1>seventh and eighth grade dance. I'm guessing this a lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, booty shaking seven grade dance and the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>grades have their own thing. So he went up to

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<v Speaker 1>her and said, are you going to the dance? And

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<v Speaker 1>she looked at him, like, why are you talking to me?

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<v Speaker 1>And she said yeah, and he said, oh, are you

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<v Speaker 1>in sixth grade? Yeah, okay, I was gonna ask you

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<v Speaker 1>to come to our dance. And then he said to

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<v Speaker 1>her maybe we could hang out sometime oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ellie yelled no, thank you and ramped. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>there yet, she's not ready for that conversation. And she's

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<v Speaker 1>in sixth grade. Ye and he was in seventh grade. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very proud of her for that get it go,

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<v Speaker 1>get away from those voice. I like it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know. I don't even know how to eleven year

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<v Speaker 1>old is getting like more date requests than most four

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<v Speaker 1>year olds I know, including myself, Like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so good. So they have a Valentine's Day dance. No,

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<v Speaker 1>this wasn't Valentine's this was for something else. This is

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<v Speaker 1>just an independent They do him throughout the year in

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoons, like it's like they have early day. They

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<v Speaker 1>get out like one thirty and then they have dances

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<v Speaker 1>until the regular time school would be out. And she

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<v Speaker 1>she shows me video, she takes videos on her phone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a rager, like there's lights and there's all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of loud music and she's having a blast. They put

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<v Speaker 1>like black over the windows. It's like nighttime. We had

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<v Speaker 1>this in my middle school, but it is nighttime. Were nighttime,

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<v Speaker 1>three pm. It gets too racy at nighttime these days. Um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>so what do you guys really like to do for

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day? Then? You know, for us, it's really we

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<v Speaker 1>we we made a rule a few years ago, no

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<v Speaker 1>more cards for any for any occasion. No more cards.

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<v Speaker 1>They are a waste of money and you look at them,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's nice, and you throw it in the garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they're like, they're like seven eight bucks cards

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<v Speaker 1>and you feel bad throwing them in the garbage too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we no more cards. We're not doing that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's no real expectation. Her birthday was a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. Great, we don't do gifts really. We just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of spend some time together and that's it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty low key at this point. Do you think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a practice that we could all take in early on

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<v Speaker 1>or is that something that you kind of get to

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<v Speaker 1>after to this because there was pressure early on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still surprised with flowers and stuff. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago. She teaches group exercise on Saturday mornings.

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<v Speaker 1>So I dressed the girls up in little red dresses

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<v Speaker 1>and they each had a bouquet of flowers, and they

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<v Speaker 1>walked into her group exercise class right before it started.

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<v Speaker 1>And gave him that that was pretty good. That I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of points for that one life. So

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<v Speaker 1>I still tried to do a nice surprise every so often,

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<v Speaker 1>but generally speaking, it's it's it's pretty quiet these years

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<v Speaker 1>until the next big surprise. Come on something else. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>take us through. You were looking through your Instagram, So

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<v Speaker 1>where were you Valentine's Day? I wanted to go through

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<v Speaker 1>my I guess chronicled pictures to the past four or

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<v Speaker 1>five years. UM, February seventeen. It was like the month

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<v Speaker 1>before I left for Bacherette filming, so I literally just

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<v Speaker 1>sat at home. We were not allowed to be pursuing anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>not even that. I don't even think I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the process at that point, but I was like more

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<v Speaker 1>single than ever, so I like literally ordered Indian food

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<v Speaker 1>with my roommates, and like we watched movies or something

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<v Speaker 1>that pines but not romantic movies. I assume we watched like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like X Men or something like that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the year before that, I think, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>was I was dating someone. I can't remember exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>we did, though, I was looking back because I was

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<v Speaker 1>right around the Super Bowl time, and um, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>watching the Super Bowl with the girl that I was dating,

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I'm sure we had to do

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<v Speaker 1>I've done something, but obviously recalled exactly what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably just like a dinner date and something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You were in a relationship two years ago on Valentine's yea,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure we went to dinner And the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that I am unable to remember exactly what we did,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's a sign that I think dinners are

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<v Speaker 1>too cliche for Valentine's Day dates. Do we know about

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<v Speaker 1>this woman? Uh, we haven't spoken much of her. We

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<v Speaker 1>have talked to her. How long were you together? Put?

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<v Speaker 1>And why did it end? Ah, it was just it

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<v Speaker 1>was like messed from the start, and then we like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of evened out in the middle and like things

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<v Speaker 1>were going well and then near the end of this

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<v Speaker 1>what does that mean? A mess from the start? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>she worked at a company that I worked at formerly

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<v Speaker 1>before moving here, and so we had like some mutual

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<v Speaker 1>friends and she and one of my other good friends

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<v Speaker 1>had something before her and I got together. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like kind of one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where we have these callers calling and they're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>like this girl, but my guy my like my friend

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<v Speaker 1>used to date her kind of thing. Um, it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of one of those situations. So it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a rocky start. How how friendly were you with

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<v Speaker 1>that guy best friend? Oh, and I made the horrible,

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<v Speaker 1>horrible mistake of um pursuing her without telling him and

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<v Speaker 1>without asking for permission. Not permission obviously, but like you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>not giving the courtesy heads up right, and in hindsight,

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<v Speaker 1>I always say, I see really regret it. We lived

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<v Speaker 1>together with best friends, moved I moved out here from

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<v Speaker 1>together at the time with him. Yeah, um, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember exactly how unfolded with like everything kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>becoming to coming to the surface. But he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, honestly, like it was like a very short

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<v Speaker 1>fling that they had. They weren't like in a serious

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<v Speaker 1>relationship or anything that. But he's like, honestly, if you

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<v Speaker 1>just came to me and told me or like asked

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<v Speaker 1>me or whatever, everything wouldn't perfectly fine. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly fine. It was just like a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>like they weren't together at the time, but they had

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<v Speaker 1>been together. No, no no, no, they weren't together at the

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<v Speaker 1>time they had hooked up, maybe like a few months

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<v Speaker 1>prior hooked up. It wasn't much. They were never like

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<v Speaker 1>never never boyfriend girlfriends, but they had a history together.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because we were just talking about this in

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<v Speaker 1>the Scrubbing In podcast this week with Becca in Twania,

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<v Speaker 1>available for download now. Um about how Tanya is able

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of if if she knows a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>has done anything with any of her friends, he is

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<v Speaker 1>like like switched off in her mind, Like she wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even consider him as a possibility. That is just off limits, friend, brother, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes mat category. Maybe guys don't have that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Tanya has a fault there because I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be open to like some people like if

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<v Speaker 1>it was a fling, you should have told him, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. But I also think like that could have

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<v Speaker 1>been okay, Yes, it might be weird at first, but

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<v Speaker 1>what if that's your person? And in these situations, people

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<v Speaker 1>always say that like the heart wants what it wants.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what if that's my person? Well, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>like that's one of those things too, where she was

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<v Speaker 1>like in our friend group and like we would hang out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every a couple of Beegins a month, like altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>Um And I always like a certain level of like

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<v Speaker 1>admiration for like, always thought she was a great personal

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. Obviously I wasn't gonna make any moves

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, but um And there was like this

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<v Speaker 1>one night where we made out or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, all right, well, let's like hang out

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<v Speaker 1>a few more times and see what it leads to.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of one of those things where like

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't really know how to define it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>because we didn't really know what we were I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to my friend and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on. But then obviously hinds

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<v Speaker 1>it's like easier to say I should have done it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I could have. I don't know, like how to

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<v Speaker 1>define our relationships. I didn't really know what to go

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<v Speaker 1>to him with what information, you know, Yeah, but you

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<v Speaker 1>could just tell him, Hey, I'm interested in so and

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<v Speaker 1>so would you mind if I pursue this? Absolutely, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I did. And I mean I mean obviously

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<v Speaker 1>like there was no love lost between me my friend

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<v Speaker 1>or meither or the girl that I kind of continued

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to date but it's just it made very

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<v Speaker 1>very rocky a couple of days. I guess is part

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<v Speaker 1>of that early the early days, there is part of

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<v Speaker 1>it the excitement of sneaking around, because that does add

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<v Speaker 1>an element of excitement to the relationship. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we're necessarily we weren't like hiding

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<v Speaker 1>it intentionally or anything like that. But it's it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>now because like even I don't know how long we

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about this topic for but um, in

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<v Speaker 1>our friend group, this girl who dated one of my

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<v Speaker 1>good friends for like a year or two, so they

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<v Speaker 1>lived together. They're like a very serious relationship. She's now

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<v Speaker 1>um dating another one of our good friends in the group,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that the her x doesn't know about

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<v Speaker 1>their currently even though everyone else in the friend group does.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like I feel like it's not like anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else's place to like go to the guy and be like, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>this girl is dating uh this other guy. Bro code

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<v Speaker 1>that you let him know what's going on, or is

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<v Speaker 1>it you're loyal to the other bro. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>fully moved on from the relationship, but it's still like

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<v Speaker 1>stings a little bit to like see that. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that it's not necessarily I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us think that's not necessarily our place to start

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<v Speaker 1>that drama. And like if and when they're ready to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it, and I'll talk about it. Two years later,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been almost exactly two years. You were with her

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago. But where what do you where do

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<v Speaker 1>you stand with her? Is there any any friendship any anything? There? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there there's a friendship. We all try to have a

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<v Speaker 1>good friendship, or at least I made an effort to like, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be friends with you. I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we like dated because I thought you were a great person. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that it's just it's becoming increasibly increasingly

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<v Speaker 1>harder to keep a friendship with like a former girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Um, so we don't really have much of

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<v Speaker 1>a friendship anymore, which kind of stings a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, I think she's doing really well. So and

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<v Speaker 1>what with the guy, the guy her, the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>she hooked up with, it you were best friends and

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<v Speaker 1>roommates with real Wow, you guys survived that, of course

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<v Speaker 1>was he was a little ticked off at first, but

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<v Speaker 1>not too bad. He was like he had moved on

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<v Speaker 1>and had started dating someone. So it's not like they

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<v Speaker 1>like he wasn't like like, I don't know he we

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<v Speaker 1>were still best friends. Everything's fine there, everything's fine still

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<v Speaker 1>to this day. Good. That's nice to hear. I got

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<v Speaker 1>the threat up box that you gave us last week. Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>My my wife and my daughter really appreciated because the

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<v Speaker 1>denim jacket fit my daughter better than fit my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there she goes, she's got a new denim

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<v Speaker 1>jack and for these Ontine's days. He's about to go on, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well you're getting ahead of yourself. But but but they're great.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't seem like, you know, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a stigma people put on used clothing or

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<v Speaker 1>thrift store clothing. It didn't seem like that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no feeling of this is pre owned. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a feeling of, wow, what a great denim jacket

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<v Speaker 1>this is, and my daughter loves it, so thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for that. You're welcome and Easton. Easton's wife sent a

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<v Speaker 1>cute little thank you know, Yeah, she's very appreciative of

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<v Speaker 1>the jacket. It looked brand new, I mean, like this

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<v Speaker 1>had the tags on it. Still she got a Theory

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<v Speaker 1>denim jacket and uh, I don't know if that's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice brand or not, but it was very exciting for

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<v Speaker 1>her to get. Fits are great, is really nice? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I see whenever I see a girl wearing a Theory jacket,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just I don't know, I like it. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>for those guys who are listening and for those girls

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<v Speaker 1>that are looking to treat themselves for whether it's Gallentine's Day,

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day, whatever it is. Um, I mean you heard

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<v Speaker 1>Easton and Mark talked about how much their wives loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>and in Mark's case, I guess his wife and his daughter. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to check out threat up dot com. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the world's largest online thrift store with brands you'll love

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<v Speaker 1>from up to off retail price. Like I said, Easton's

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<v Speaker 1>wife got hers and she said it was Brandy with

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<v Speaker 1>the tax still on it. That's pretty common with thread Up.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll get a lot of a lot of designer clothes

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<v Speaker 1>basically you know, never worn, if they've been worn only

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<v Speaker 1>once or twice. In Mark's case, I got them to

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<v Speaker 1>two items for his wife. One of them didn't fit

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<v Speaker 1>her quite as well. Fortunate in his situation, she was

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<v Speaker 1>able to just pass it down to the daughter. But

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<v Speaker 1>in an event where you get something that doesn't fit,

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<v Speaker 1>you do have free returns and make it super easy,

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<v Speaker 1>something a little bit too smaller than you expected it

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<v Speaker 1>to be, people for just send it right back and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll make it as easy as possible for you. So

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to show your weal who's boss and don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember that you're getting offer up to off retail price

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<v Speaker 1>through threat up dot com. Um, you're going basically on

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<v Speaker 1>well there it's Valentine's Day or Galantine's Day as fashionable

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. Before we get Genie on the phone, Genieus

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<v Speaker 1>from e Harmony answers dating questions. I have an idea

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<v Speaker 1>for the name of this podcast, and I really thought

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<v Speaker 1>about this and I really like it because it's very succinct.

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<v Speaker 1>It says everything you need to say. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>ready for this, because I I haven't liked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the suggestions we've gotten. It's very simple. The new

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<v Speaker 1>podcast name would be Dating Dean Unglert. Dating Dean Dating

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Unglert like being John malkovis kind of but but

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't like it, and I can tell but let

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<v Speaker 1>me just tell you. Let me tell you why. Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's about dating. It's it's you dating, whether you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship or not in a relationship. It works either way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's simple, it's three words. It encompasses what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're gonna you know, this is the part that

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<v Speaker 1>will make you a little bit uncomfortable. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>of you as a very eligible bachelor. To the people listening,

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<v Speaker 1>they probably think you're an attractive young man and they

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<v Speaker 1>might want to be dating Dean Unglert, And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it's an appealing title as well. Let me ask you this,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's flip it let's flip it around real quickly. Say

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<v Speaker 1>Amy comes to you one day and says, here, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>I have this idea for myself. I want to come

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<v Speaker 1>out with the TV show. Just bear with me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be dating Amy. I'm gonna talk about my life,

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<v Speaker 1>all the dating ins and outs that I go through

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<v Speaker 1>on a daily basis, weekly basis, etcetera, etcetera. Um, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel about that? You're worried about how this

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<v Speaker 1>would come off to potential partners of yours or even

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<v Speaker 1>hypothetically if you were in a relationship. Now, yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's weird, Yes, all right, what do you think? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you feel about Amy doing We're married. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a different situation. So I think it's I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I okay. Do you want to bounce it off somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in your life and see if they like it? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like you don't like it? It's okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>bounce it off, all right. I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate. I appreciate the fact that we are brainstorming

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<v Speaker 1>new ideas. What about help dating? It can sucks? See,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that is too negative. I don't like sucking.

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<v Speaker 1>There it's too negative. It's too I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>too cynical. Yeah, I guess because they have one listener

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<v Speaker 1>emails say that, and so now we're kind of stuck

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<v Speaker 1>on that. Yeah. But also I like it. I like

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<v Speaker 1>it short too, I don't like help. I suck a

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<v Speaker 1>dating as too many words? What's another? Okay, well let's

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<v Speaker 1>jump over to Genie. So Genie is from e Harmony.

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<v Speaker 1>We we've talked quite a bit about online dating, all

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<v Speaker 1>those types of apps that people use, but we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really talked much about e Harmony or the or the

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<v Speaker 1>those types of I guess avenues of meeting new people.

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<v Speaker 1>So Janie, are you there? I am here, How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing well? Thank you so much for calling in.

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<v Speaker 1>Chief of Advice. Chief that's the title, chief, Chief of

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<v Speaker 1>Advice and VP of contented the Harmony. That's impressive. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how this happened, you guys. Um awesome. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so Jennie, tell us a little more about that then,

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<v Speaker 1>Chief of Advice. Probably you're the only person in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire world with that title. What does that meaning? I

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<v Speaker 1>think VP of Content might be view. Um, so I

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<v Speaker 1>managed the harmonade vice site which is a site, a

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<v Speaker 1>content site, which is full of articles and blogs by

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<v Speaker 1>different experts. So that's where that comes from. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>also work in the marketing department, and I've been here

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<v Speaker 1>for nine years. I've kind of been there, done that,

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<v Speaker 1>seen at all. It's always interesting, awesome. Well, so tell

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit more about the harmony. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we know mostly what it is, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more people at least, Um, I don't I don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>want to say this, but I feel like more people

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<v Speaker 1>in my age are more familiar with like the dating

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<v Speaker 1>apps like a bumble. Yeah, that's that's swiping all that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. Yeah, of course. Um, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>always say that everybody will go onto those sites and

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<v Speaker 1>then we don't. We don't find a great match. They

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<v Speaker 1>come to harmade So um, we have apps as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but we aren't swiping. So what you do when you

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<v Speaker 1>go to harmonies You're gonna answer a bunch of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've got about a hundred questions in our

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<v Speaker 1>relationship questionnaire. So why we do that? As we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>to know who you are and as you know deep level,

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<v Speaker 1>what your values are, are, what who you are as

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<v Speaker 1>a person, and then after you goe for that process,

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<v Speaker 1>we start delivering matches to you people who we feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you'd be really compatible with. But that's really the

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<v Speaker 1>primary difference is that we match based on compatibility and

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<v Speaker 1>research that we've done for what seventeen years here on

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<v Speaker 1>what makes the happy couple. And I mean you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have been around, you said, for seventeen years, which means

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<v Speaker 1>you're a something, right, Yeah, I think so. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's something too that I have to say that when

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<v Speaker 1>I I mean a lot of the couples, like the

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<v Speaker 1>have success couples when we do our commercials and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are always they always seem to be very

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<v Speaker 1>compatible and happy and like we get it so easy

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<v Speaker 1>with each other and we just get each other. So

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me go, wow, we are doing something right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty cool. I'm sure that makes all of it

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<v Speaker 1>worth it too. So that's why I'm here. Honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>used to work in entertainment and it was just very's

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<v Speaker 1>rapid and you know, superficial. And here it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually doing something that you know is positive. But I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. I think that a lot of people and

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<v Speaker 1>christ me if I'm wrong, please at any moment when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to some wrong a lot um. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that use actually just had air

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<v Speaker 1>coincident and she made this comment. I think it really

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<v Speaker 1>struck a chord. She she said, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that use dating apps are more looking to I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>hook up and maybe date, and then the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to jump on something like the Harmony are

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<v Speaker 1>more ready for marriage that type of stuff. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's I don't think that's false. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like, you know, it is about what

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for. You just want to have a date

0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Thursday night and just have fun and aren't looking for

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<v Speaker 1>anything serious, and that's fine that they serve their purpose absolutely. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want, you know, a happy relationship or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>something just more substantial and meaningful, then that's we are

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<v Speaker 1>the place for that, right And that's a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to put it too, because I feel like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking to fill a Thursday night or Friday night on

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<v Speaker 1>your calendar, you're not really the Harmy is maybe not

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:39.919
<v Speaker 1>the spot for you because it's kind of more for

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<v Speaker 1>like lifelong relationships that type of stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.040
<v Speaker 1>think most people are really intentional and they take all

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<v Speaker 1>this time to take the relationship questionnaire, and so they're

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<v Speaker 1>there for a reason, which is to find you a

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<v Speaker 1>good partner for them and a good fit. Can I

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<v Speaker 1>ask you what you're what the average ages of like

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<v Speaker 1>of a um? Yeah, I think number one Demo FOURT

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<v Speaker 1>is like the second most popular group, very nice, so

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:09.120
<v Speaker 1>they just you know, fairly young still and I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot go ahead. And I was gonna say, I

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:12.760
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of the mindsets kind of apply to

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<v Speaker 1>both to both dating apps in and the harmony and

0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:17.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's like a healthy blend of the two, um,

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<v Speaker 1>because it, I mean just dating in general is a

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<v Speaker 1>difficult thing nowadays, especially so maybe once you once you

0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.439
<v Speaker 1>do it more intentionally like you're talking about with the harmony,

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.240
<v Speaker 1>and once you kind of sit down figure out exactly

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:29.879
<v Speaker 1>who you are and what you want, um, it kind

0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of makes moving forward. I think it's it's super important

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<v Speaker 1>to know that you know you want a relationship, Like

0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.280
<v Speaker 1>what am I looking for? What do I am? Ask yourself?

0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:39.760
<v Speaker 1>What do I have to offer? Like what do I

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<v Speaker 1>bring to the table. I think a lot of people

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.760
<v Speaker 1>are like what can what does this person have? But

0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:45.679
<v Speaker 1>I think it's good to look at yourself to what

0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:47.400
<v Speaker 1>do you what do you have to bring the table?

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 1>So with it being February, what do you guys have

0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:54.520
<v Speaker 1>planned for Valentine's Day? From like the harmony side of things. Well,

0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:57.960
<v Speaker 1>we are releasing a study this Thursday, and UM it's

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<v Speaker 1>called the Happiness Index. Um. What we did is we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to take part of the temperature of the pulse

0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of relationships in America and find out how happy are couples,

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 1>How are they doing, what are they fighting about? What

0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:11.680
<v Speaker 1>are the happiest couples? Um? What makes them so happy?

0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:14.240
<v Speaker 1>And the same with the unhappy couple. So that's really

0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:17.920
<v Speaker 1>interesting that's coming out Thursday. Lots of interesting finding. Does

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<v Speaker 1>this happyest Happiness Index? Uh? Embody just harmony users? Or

0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 1>is it every couple that you guys kind of Yeah,

0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:28.320
<v Speaker 1>we had we surveyed. Harris did a survey for us

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<v Speaker 1>Harrison are active and it's anybody in a long sim relationship, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>married or just you know, anyone they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be married. And what do you guys have to do

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.640
<v Speaker 1>with that type of information. We are putting a press

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 1>the WETE out on Thursday, and we're doing a bunch

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:44.880
<v Speaker 1>of interviews. So there's just a bunch of cool findings

0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:47.760
<v Speaker 1>from the study. So the CEO of the companies in

0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.120
<v Speaker 1>New York this week talking about it. I'm talking about

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:53.280
<v Speaker 1>it to people like you, and so we're just sharing

0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the information. So how does it work on any harmony?

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:57.960
<v Speaker 1>So you said that you fill out the questionnaire and

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:00.359
<v Speaker 1>you send matches and what happens at that point? Can

0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:04.280
<v Speaker 1>either person reach out? Yes? Yeah, so we aren't like

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:08.359
<v Speaker 1>bumble you have to wait for the woman and then

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>they chat within the app or on the site. Yeah.

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 1>So we have like a Slack style communication where you

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 1>can just you can reach out men or women can

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 1>reach out. I'm always accuraging that women to reach out

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 1>more because the guys love that, right, I think. So yeah,

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:26.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like you know, steps up, ladies come on reach out. Um,

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and actually our success couples sixty six percent. I think

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the ways to initiate communications see it works. But um yeah,

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:36.200
<v Speaker 1>so when your match with someone, either you can send

0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>a smile or just start communication. Well you can also

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 1>send them questions. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Erica sends gifts. She

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>sends the sub sub seal. Yeah, what do you send?

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a little seal snuggling in the snow, and it

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 1>says up it sounds so much, and it goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Yeah, I think that's cute. I think that's

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>very crue Erica. What did you want to? Um? Okay,

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 1>So the whole issue, and it's a lot of people

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>my age like the getting from the conversation online to

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 1>actually getting to a date in person. How do you

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>make that happen? I think sometimes you have to be direct.

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've even experienced it myself where it's like, hey,

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.159
<v Speaker 1>what's up. In a few days later, hey what's up? Like,

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, if the other party is not making it happen,

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>and I think, you know, I love chatting with you,

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.159
<v Speaker 1>but I would love to actually, you know, meet you

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<v Speaker 1>in person and have a drink. You have to start

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<v Speaker 1>of take it there sooner than later, or a lot

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>of times you're going to kind of run out of

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:34.920
<v Speaker 1>them and one person is going to lose interest. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think after you after a few text conversations, it's

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<v Speaker 1>either important to move to the phone or try to

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 1>meet in person. Sometimes you gotta yeah, you gotta do it.

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of my thing with it. When I was

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 1>using these types of platforms to meet people. Was I

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 1>almost kind of wanted to string it out as long

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>as I possibly could because because it was like it's

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:54.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a vetting process. It was like, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm able to have a nonsensical conversation with this person

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 1>for a week, then I'm I'm more excited to meet

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<v Speaker 1>up with them because than I know that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be having much more free flown conversation instead of five

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<v Speaker 1>messages down than asking to get drinks, just because of

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I look at the way that they look,

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, that type of thing. So there's definitely like

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 1>there's like a heavy balance I think in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>So absolutely, like yeah, exactly having a conversation or sort

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<v Speaker 1>of betting the person and getting to them a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit via, you know, whether it's text or whatever you

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>want to do. Absolutely, but I think moving it to

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the next level sooner than later is great. I know

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 1>people who have chatted online four months and they don't meet,

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<v Speaker 1>and they think and they think they're in a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, you're not in a relationship unless you've

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<v Speaker 1>actually met the person you know, fo months And this

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>is kind of off topic, and maybe we can, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about it now, just it's like five seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was in college. When I went to college,

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<v Speaker 1>I took a spring term class. It was like a

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<v Speaker 1>week long class. You got a class every day for

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<v Speaker 1>like six hours a day, but it was a full

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<v Speaker 1>three credit loads. I remember I met this girl in class.

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<v Speaker 1>We were sitting next to each other. She's like, yeah,

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go meet my husband. Later. I was like, oh,

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>that's so great, Like, how did you meet your husband?

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 1>She's like, oh, I met him playing World of Warcraft.

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 1>We played World of Warcrafts together for six months and

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<v Speaker 1>then we find the decided that we want to meet

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<v Speaker 1>in person and we got married. It's I know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very off topic, but I'm a great shared interest. That

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>is you already know they love video games exactly. It's

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>important to have things in common, as we all know, right,

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>which is which is obviously super important. All right. So

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<v Speaker 1>besides I guess being more intentional with like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>meet up with them, do you have any advice on

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<v Speaker 1>on kind of how to like plan that first date

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 1>because we're talking about if a first date can fall

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>on Valentine's Day. Um, there seems to be like mixed

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.919
<v Speaker 1>reviews on that, But how do you go about navigating

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 1>those waters? First date on Valentine's Day? I think that, um, yeah,

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 1>that can be tough you have met the person because

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 1>it kind of puts pressure on things. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that, I would just go somewhere really

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>low key. I would not be going to like the

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>prefixed dinner, you know, on Valentine's Day with someone you

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know, So I would, you know, maybe like you

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>have just coffee that morning, or go get breakfast, try

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 1>to let a little more casual. I would keep it casual.

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>If you're going to have a first date on Valentine's Day,

0:26:57.800 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I like that that works. Yeah, I think it's I

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<v Speaker 1>think I can agree with. And who doesn't like going

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to breakfast and having pancakes? I mean, come on, that

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>is kind of fun. Breakfast is fun. That's interesting. Breakfast

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>first date. It's not something you hear about very often. Yeah,

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:09.959
<v Speaker 1>but I think that's the best way. Then you get

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 1>to move on with your day. You can say you

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>have plans after or you don't, or you end up

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>setting the day with them right, or you like, I

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>gotta go to work now. I kind of eleven am.

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Just go to Jinkies, get some blueberry pancakes. That's kind

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:26.199
<v Speaker 1>of more brunch hour. But well, but you're not going

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 1>to have an eight for a first date. I mean,

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be a brunch. It's like a weening process.

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I just think, like too much pressure to you know,

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 1>how nervous would you be, like go to some fancy

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>dinner and I just can't even imagine that, So I

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>would steer away from that for sure. Can you talk

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about how I guess the harmonies changed

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>over the years. You said you've been there for nine years, right,

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>so you've said I'm sure you've probably seen it change

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit over the past decade. What are kind

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of like some notice noticeable changes you've seen In some ways,

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 1>it's changed. In some ways, it's still the same. Like

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>our mission is the same, which is to put two

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 1>people together who are would be a great fit. That

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>we were still about compatibility, but we have changed our

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>product a lot um, so you know, you have to

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>do it. You have to change and progress at the times.

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, we can't have the old school email

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>a question and email back, so we have more fract

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>stele communication now we also last year, um, you know,

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>we always kept compatibility like why you're good for someone

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>behind the fold, and we hadn't. We have a new

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>CEO started a little over a year ago. I said,

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I want everybody to know why you're a good match

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>with this person. So we now show you all the

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>ways you're compatible, whether it's like you know, adaptability or

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>energy level or passions or whatever. So now you can

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>actually see it's a cool chart that shows you, um,

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>how compatible yours and this thing. It's changes like that

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>that have gone on, you know, like better upload of photos,

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>just you know, keeping up with the current, um, what's

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>what's going on out there currently. But we really are

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>in some ways have stayed the same with our mission

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>that will never change. It's just we really believe, you know,

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>we believe that, um, you know, who you decide to

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>spend your life. But it's a huge decision, one of

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the biggest decisions that we're gonna make. We want to

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>help you find someone that's a great for you, I'm saying.

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>The other day, actually we were out for my wife's

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>birthday and I made it a toast and I said

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 1>that the key, the key to a happy life is

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to marry the right person and everything falls into place.

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>If you can figure out how to do that. Yeah,

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>either going to have like a super happy life or

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it can be you know, make you miserable too if

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 1>you pick the wrong person. That's it. I'm gonna express

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>that to my daughters if they get older, that you

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>just got. As long as you find the right person,

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>everything is going to be great. But what makes them

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the right person? Well, I mean, like, well, if you

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>look at our research, it's somebody who you're compatible left,

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>so meaning someone that you're similar to in the important ways,

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Like it's better to be with someone that's more like

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>you than justlike you those say are really adaptable, easy

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>going person. Is it going to be easier for you

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to be someone similar or someone who's really rigid. It's

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be hard if they're really rigid. So it's just

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>it's it's similarities and the important Well, but like you say,

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>it's the rigidity that would cause the problems even if

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you're not similar if you're not rigid about it, Like

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>my I don't think my wife and I are that similar,

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, but but neither one of

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>us are terribly rigid. We both respect each other's you know, feelings, beliefs,

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. And so we've kind of just merged

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>together into this, this marriage that seems to be going

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>well fifteen years in and that's the key. But but

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to Dean's questions, how do you know compromise? Yes, how

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>do you know? It's it's such a cliche, but you

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>just know, Like I just knew, and I don't know

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>how to express that, and people like Erica just rolled

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>dries at me and I get that. It's sweet. It's

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>so sweet, and I hope someday, I just you will

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>know someday, don't. You guys share values though you do

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>share like certain Yeah, we've never really had a lot

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>of disagreements when it comes to raising the kids, so

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>that's important. So you guys are similar in that respect. Yeah,

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that's cool, that's awesome. Um. I did want to get

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>this email and just because it's it's something that we've

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of hit on. Actually, but I think that you

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>could weigh in on this. It's from Sarah. She says,

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>since you were talking about dating apps and messaging on

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>dating apps, I was wondering do you think it's okay

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to ask a guy out. First. I've been messaging this

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.479
<v Speaker 1>guy for a while and we now have moved into texting,

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.479
<v Speaker 1>which I mean that's a big move in itself. They

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>say it from the app to your text. We've talked

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>for a while, but he has yet to ask me out.

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Should I ask him if he wants to get drinks?

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Love you all, Sarah? Yes, Yes, yes, Sarah do it.

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I agree, Erica, I'm kind of in the same situation.

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting to see if I need to just ask

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>someone out. So I'm down with your advice, Jeannie, I'm

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>going to do it. How long has it been three weeks?

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>We've been talking for three weeks? Yeah? Yeah, I mean

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say that. I usually would wait for

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the girl to ask me out, and I would say

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that in this instance, you should ask him out. But

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>is it Shorty short guy? Oh my god, he's not

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>actually short. We don't think, like, just to clarify, no,

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a joke because she thought he was and that

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>was scaring her away. But we've done our homework on

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>him and we don't think he is. But we're still calling.

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>We're still talking to short I think is a whole

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>another subject. But it is really important for him. What's

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>what's on a harmony profile, like physically physical characteristics? Is

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>there the picture of course, heightway all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah,

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>but there is there is a hype um area to

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>fill out. So it's important enough that we put that there.

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>What other what I'm just curious, Um, what else is

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>on there that makes every like besides the questionnaire all

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff that allows you guys to fully

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>understand who a person is to ensure that you're matching them,

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>matching them up with someone that's compatible. What else is

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>there is there? Like religious beliefs? Is there? Um? I

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know what type, like what type of girl they're

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>into like that kind of stuff. I don't know. Yeah.

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>So there's like a really detailed profile that you can

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>fill out, so you can write what's most important to you,

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>what you're passionate about, how people describe you, what you're

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>looking for, Um, do you smoke? Do you drink? That

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff is all. It's a pretty in depth profile.

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And then you can upload is I think, as many

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>photos as you want. So I always encourage people more

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>than Tupelo more than less because you know, one picture

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>and an incomplete profile basically means no activity. That's like

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you gotta put some energy into it to get something

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>out of it. Obviously, you can put as many as

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>you want on there. I think it's like tend a swell. Yeah. Yeah,

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you can up a lot a lot of photos, which

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>is nice. I mean, you know you want to you're

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna reach out to someone, don't you want to have

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>some information about them? Yeah? Or what do you suggest

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>for those photos? And there's there's one like main photo

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 1>you see first? Yeah, there's one main photo. Yeah, that's

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the key, right that that first photo of the profile picture? Absolutely? Yeah,

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know a good quality picture is nice, not

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>something blurry or you know, I've seen it all. I mean,

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>don't wear sunglasses in every single photo. Don't have every

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>photo be the same, but like it different, kills her

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>on it, you know, don't like I was born against

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>shirtless photos for the most part. You know, So I

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>don't like a group photos. I think that's a mistake. Yeah,

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>group photos, especially with the guys. A guy surrounded by

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.479
<v Speaker 1>like five women like what me? Well, yeah, what I mean?

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>But you you see it all the time, so um,

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you think it would be intuitive, but it really is that.

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I think are good not with not with

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>five geirls round you. I think that's I think you

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>have to have some, but I think it's good to have.

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 1>It's going to have a couple of solo pictures so

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>they know what you look like. But it's also good

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 1>to show that you have friends. But also but also

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>don't come but they'll also compare you to the others

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and then like one of your friends think is more attractive. Yeah,

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. People do that. Guys do that. Yes,

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 1>Guys are like, oh she's nice, but I like second

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>from the left a little better. So maybe I can

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>get drinks with this girl and then be introduced to

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a friend through Oh yeah, you don't want that. I

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>think full body shows are good too, to see out

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 1>walking or hiking or whatever. Good to somebody can actually

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>see what you can. I sell your profile picture, Erica,

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you want, Yes, I'll describe it to Genie and she

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>can tell us if you're doing a good job or not.

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure have sunglasses on in it. That's a mistake.

0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I think you have other photo. Yeah, I've my full

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>full things. Question. While she's pulling it up, how do

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>e harmony, employees meet their wives and husband's harmony. That's

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 1>a good question. Yeah, you know. I mean in the past,

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>we didn't allow employees to use the service because we

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>were afraid that you know, in certain departments you can

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>get into Thinker out of back end. But now do

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>you have the ability? And I've heard of several people

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>meeting their significant other ony harmonies, so yeah, it does happen. Okay,

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>let's critique Erica's photos. So here's the main one. The

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>main one is her. It looks like she's at a

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:38.800
<v Speaker 1>music festival. I wou guess this is stagecoach okay. And

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>she's in a how do you describe that outfit? Is

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>that a jumper, sleeveless romper shorts okay? Is that ropper automatical? Okay,

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, sunglasses, smiling hair, and a ponytail purse with fringe.

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>And she's like on top of something because around her

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>are other people, but they're up beneath her, like she's

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>standing on a hay bale or something. Is that like

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>a psychology thing? And I will say, I think this

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>is great. I was I was gonna Yes, it's a

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>great Erica smyle It expresses her personality. I'm mean, I

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>know her, so I don't know if I would know

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>that if I was going into this blind, but I

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>know that this is Erica's personality to me, summed up

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>perfectly in this photo. Now. Photo number two is with

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>three other women, but I think she chose this right

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 1>because she compares well to the other three women, so

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that was smart on her part. She kind of but

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you kind of glow in this photo where the other three,

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>don't you pop in this one? The third one is

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:45.359
<v Speaker 1>her and another woman that I don't know. And that's

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>a weird one for me. Who's that? But that's Alex?

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, I didn't know that. I've never seen it

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>with her hair back like that before anyway, So I

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:55.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know. That's kind of a weird one, Like who's that?

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Is that your sister? Like? I don't know? That one

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.760
<v Speaker 1>brings up too many questions. Fourth, and she said another

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>with other friends and they're hugging her and that I

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of like that she's likable. People like her, although

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>there's sisters, so that's good too, okay, And then she's

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 1>with another random woman. I don't know. If I don't

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the two shots with random, there's another

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 1>with Alex, don't I guess it is good? I will

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 1>say maybe a photo of her by herself, maybe at

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 1>least one son. There's the profile pictures. It's good, right, Yes,

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it works for her um plus one point

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 1>for not having a picture with any guys. Yes. But

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>but Jennie question on these Harmony profiles, I imagine there

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 1>would be a lot more just solo pics. I don't

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.400
<v Speaker 1>know why. I just imagine, with e Harmony being the

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 1>service that it is and like leading more like lifelong partners,

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's more like this is who I am

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>as an individual, instead of like, how many photos do

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you have of just yourself doing things you're actually doing

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>in your life and not just selfies? Don't Ever, since

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I've beencouraged supposed to Instagram post a day, I've got

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot more pictures of myself, which is I don't

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>totally agree. I totally agree that you should have a

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>variety of different photos, not just you selfie in every

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>bathroom in l A or whatever. You know. I mean,

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 1>you would be shocked. You We've I've talked about good

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>photos like to death, and you'd be shocked at the

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>pictures that still show up. It's just I don't know,

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if people are you know, lazy or

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>weapon And it's really important. It is aspect of your success.

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I have some friends, like if you shop,

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.240
<v Speaker 1>you at hiking or whatever, but you don't get pictures

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 1>of yourself that off unless you're a certain type of

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 1>girl who says right right, right right, and that's not

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>my personality. You almost have to stage your profile picture,

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>which is sure. Yeah, no, I think that's not a

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>bad idea. Like if you're walking with your dog and

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you're with your girlfriend, like you just keep pictures me

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>walking the dog, you know. I guess I'll start asking people.

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll see someone's dog. There you go. You can throw mine, Jenny,

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>you've been there nine years and it's evolved. Where do

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you see dating nine years from now? Oh my gosh, Well,

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>hopefully not like a Black Mirror episode. How could it

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>not be hanging the DJ. That was good though, That

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>was my favorite one of the season. Yeah, more than Callister, Yes,

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>my favorite by far, not by far, but definitely my favorite. Yeah,

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>it was good. Yeah, I mean, obviously we want people

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>to always have free will, right, but I mean I

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>think that, you know, just um, technology will obviously play

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>a bigger role, and I know we've got research scientists

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 1>who are constantly working on like right now, they're trying

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 1>to figure other any other dimensions of compatibility we don't

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>know about, and working with outside academics. And then I've

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 1>heard talk of like facial recognition and you can kind

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 1>of tell who might be a good fit based on

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 1>facial features. So I wouldn't be surprised, you know, if

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the more technology will play a part in matching in

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the future, and it's hard to totally plan for that

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>because we really don't know where technology is going to

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.879
<v Speaker 1>be nine year. Yeah, yeah, it's really yeah, it's really hard.

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 1>But that I would just say more of a refinement

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>at least here on just putting two people together who

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>would be a good fit and looking at your habits

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and who you tend to click on and who you're

0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>talking to, and then saying, Okay, he likes this type

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>of first and so we're going to deliver a lot

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>more of that. So I think more, just more in

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that area. Nice um, All right, well, thank you so

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>much for calling in. Uh everyone that's listening, of course,

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>be sure to tune in. I guess we'll not tune

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>in because you guys are releasing the Happiness Index on Thursday.

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>You said, right, yeah, yeah, it'll be everywhere and you

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:20.439
<v Speaker 1>can get already Harmony Advice site and it'll be there too. Okay,

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll be on the lookout for that. I'm excited to

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>see that. Thank you. Yeah, of course, thank you so

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>much for calling in and for all the advice and uh,

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>thank you. All right, take care, okay, Yeah, everybody should

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>go watch the Hang the DJ episode of Black Mirror.

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Why did it? Why was it your favorite? So it

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>was my favorite, I think because the twist at the

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>end I didn't necessarily see coming. Yeah, don't spoil anything

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>because Black Mirror is still pretty underground. None, okay, so

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I would. I think that's a good starting point for you,

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:52.479
<v Speaker 1>is Hanging the DJ. So if you don't know Black Mirror,

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>it's on Netflix and it's an anthology show meeting. Every

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>episode is a specific story with different characters, different actors.

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>They're all isolated, so you can watched them in any order.

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. Each one's a little movie and Hang

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the and the only common thread and all of them

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>is they have something to do with modern technology, and

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it is predicting future technology and hang

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 1>the DJ is kind of the future of dating apps.

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>And so that's why that's a good one for listeners

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of this show and Erica to start with. And then

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>you can pick and choose as you go, but start

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>with that one, I think, And there were that one

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I likes a lot too, because there was no there

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 1>was no like really horrible thing that happened like every

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 1>other episode, like something bad, like horrible happens. Certainly creepy.

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 1>A lot of them are very creepy, and this wasn't.

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>This one had like lows, of course, but there was

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>definitely nothing where you're like, a, I don't know like it.

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like I don't know. It was just cute.

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Those episodes are horrific, and this one was quite sweet.

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought heard about why it's called black mirror. Do

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you know this? Yeah, it's like if you hold your

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>phone up and like look at yourself, except mine just

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 1>like lights up when Yeah, but I can see myself

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.800
<v Speaker 1>right now. It's not What was the other one you

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>said you likes a lot. I loved uss Callist from

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>this season that's the Star Trek episode. Oh see, I

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't like that one very much. Okay, I don't know

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>why I think. I mean, I fell asleep and I

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>like that really. I think just because they've overplayed like

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the computer programs becoming self aware and like all that

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. Let me give you have you seen

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them? Everything? One San Jacinto, which I

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>assume is how you pronounce it, that's probably my favorite.

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Remind me that one again. Okay. That one's the two

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 1>women who fall in love and they're in the beach community.

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:28.720
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was. I'm sorry, I'm thinking of actual

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:32.839
<v Speaker 1>community in southern California, Santa San Junipero. Thank that one's

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>good because I guess technically r computer programs. Yeah, Mark

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>gave me a viewing order of Black Mirror. I hadn't

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 1>seen it, really, any of them, and then Mark found

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I was interested, and he gave me this plan that

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I've been calling the Molnitsky Initiative is hopping from season

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to season, and it was a really really effective way

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to get introduced to the show. I felt, did you

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>did you start him out at the top and then

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, I don't what did I start. You

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:58.800
<v Speaker 1>started me with Calcer you guys season, but it feels

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to Easton. Yes, he's a Side five guys, so that

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 1>made sense for him. I think for Erica, hang the

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:04.800
<v Speaker 1>DJ at the perfect starting point. I have no plans

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:10.399
<v Speaker 1>later to san j NIPPERI you'd love and there's lots.

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean we could go from there, but we'll leave

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>it at that for now. Oh, the entire history of

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 1>us is that it is or you, the history of you,

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the entire history of you. That's another season one. Okay,

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>how long are these episodes? Don't know about the one

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that John Hammon one is good White Christmas. That is

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>a good one. Yes, that's a long one. Um, can

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 1>we just change this podcast to help I suck at Netflix?

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 1>And then we go on Netflix Suggestions logging in with

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:38.479
<v Speaker 1>there you go. What else do we want to talk about?

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to go on Man Creates, Yeah, and then

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to read some emails. Let's talk about Man Creates.

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>We talked a little bit about him last week. Um,

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:46.919
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk a little bit a bit more about

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>them right now because last time we talked about Man Creates,

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really have an opportunity to explore their website

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 1>quite as much as I have to this time. You

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 1>have now I did. It's great, it's it's amazing because

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I kind of thought that they were just like those

0:43:57.160 --> 0:44:00.720
<v Speaker 1>wooden crates that you had to probably open with the crowbar,

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>because my roommate got one of those, like I said,

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>from his girlfriend. He absolutely loved it. So I was like,

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that's their that's their thing. That's what they do. They

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>just send you an unopenable crate that you have to

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:09.399
<v Speaker 1>like earn your man car to be able to open.

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>You have like some cool things inside, like some like

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 1>some tumblers or that kind of stuff. But it's so

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>much more than that, right, it's a cute little thing

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that they do, but that's not what Man creates. So

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>much more than that, and so much more than just

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the crate, like they call themselves Man Creates, And I

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 1>can see why they have. I mean, they've essentially four

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 1>categories from their websites, Wooden Creates, Ammo Cans, Jerky Grahams,

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 1>and then Project Kits. And I was going through each

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.439
<v Speaker 1>of these. They're all awesome. Um and actually my friend

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Naz just got a package from them yesterday that like

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>a personalized guitar Wow, which is pretty cool. Um So

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>the wooden crates we talked about a little bit. The

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 1>am cans are really cool. You can like you can

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 1>personalize like glasses all that kind of stuff. But the

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 1>one that I really really liked, the one that kind

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of spoke to me the most, was was the project

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>kits because if you click on project Kits, you'll go

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>in there and it's like a knife making kit, a

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 1>leather belt making kit, homemade brood kit. Uh what else?

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 1>There was one that I really liked to his knife

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>pipe carving. The pipe up carving was cool. Never I

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 1>would never need or use a pipe, but I want

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 1>to know how to make one. What are you going

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to do with this stuff? Hot sauce making kit, bacon ology.

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I know Mark loves that one anyways. It's just the

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 1>cool things that you can send to someone instead of

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>just having something to put in the cupboard or like

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:19.760
<v Speaker 1>on a bookshelf. It's like you're like kind of encouraging

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>them to learn a new skill and like enjoy that

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 1>learning of the new skill. To Look, you're racking your

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>brain right now trying to figure out what to get

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>a guy for Valentine's Day. This is it Man Creates

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.400
<v Speaker 1>dot Com. And this is gonna be a double blaming

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to say, you're dating this guy and he wears horrible

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 1>belts and you also wanted to learn something new. Get

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 1>him the belt making kit. He's gonna make himself a

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>cool belt and he's a better belt and he's gonna

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:43.799
<v Speaker 1>wear it more often because he made it himself. Part

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:46.399
<v Speaker 1>of a relationship is improving your guy. I mean, let's

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.800
<v Speaker 1>be honest, I'm such a better person with Amy, and

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean like fashion, everything, fitness, diet, everything is better.

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>This can play a role. You can steer your guy

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>in the right direction with a man crazy. It's a

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 1>great point, Dave. If you go to man Crez dot

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 1>com slash Dean, you'll get five percent off and you

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:06.240
<v Speaker 1>you might be saying yourself five percent, but you're getting

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>five percent off of these awesome Creates kits. They're a

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 1>good deal already. They're a great deal already, and they're like,

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>they're fun, they're exciting to open. It's something that a person.

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>It's funny. We were talking about early at the top

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 1>of this podcast, remembering dates and how those cliche dates

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>are kind of boring. This is anything but a cliche gift,

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and people are gonna remember these gifts that you get

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.479
<v Speaker 1>them because they're just unique and they're awesome. So again,

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>go to Man Creates dot Com slash Dean and you

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 1>get five percent off. Offer that discount anywhere else but

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Man Creates dot Com slash Dean, So go check it out. Um.

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I again I advised the project kits. I think the

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>project kits are great. I think that's any guy that

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:45.439
<v Speaker 1>you get that for Will would just be loving to habit. Yeah.

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 1>And if he's got a favorite basketball team, football team,

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 1>they have these for everything. You can get the NFL

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 1>bar ware create with with his favorite football team logo

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>on bar glasses. I mean, it's just there's so many.

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:57.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, we mentioned that breaking up in the crate.

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>They're really pushing the limits of product delivery because you

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 1>can get a main Create gift card and that comes

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 1>in cased in a brick. They give you a pair

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.680
<v Speaker 1>of safety goggles too, so safety is a safety first.

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you crack open the brick, you get your

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 1>gift card, and then you're on your way to man

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Create Heaven. That's pretty fun. Never made this a smart

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 1>so smart Yeah, Man Creates dot com slash Dean five

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 1>percent off. Here's an email from Val and I feel

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 1>for Vale Vale and I are kindred spirits Val and I. First,

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 1>she says, I love the podcast to listen to it

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 1>every week while I am at work. I definitely agree

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:34.400
<v Speaker 1>with Dean of the name needs to change. She has

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.399
<v Speaker 1>her own suggestion, Dean, with your strong opinions, how about

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>dating dudes? And don't with Dean Anglert got the right

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:42.319
<v Speaker 1>amount of personification. I like it. I like it. Plus,

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what I meant to say. Not I'm emailing you

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 1>all because I really do suck at dating. Well, keep

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>coming back to that, don't. We spent two years since

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.359
<v Speaker 1>my last serious relationship, and I'm ready to meet someone new.

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>The problem is I haven't had the best luck with

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:00.080
<v Speaker 1>men like Mark. I've been going at three time in

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 1>a row. Now. That is rare. It is because I

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 1>my fourth was Yeah, you're right. I think that's an

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 1>incredible good my ghost, ghost ghost. And then the next

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 1>one to come along twenty marriage, twenty your marriage. So

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that's a good sign. Volt But she says, one of

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the guys that I've been talking to even went out

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 1>of his way to make a romantic night by blindfolding

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 1>me and taking me to a special place for dinner.

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.720
<v Speaker 1>It was a great night. He even had my friends

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 1>get together so I could spend time with all of

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 1>them on my birthday. After being with him that weekend,

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 1>he stopped talking to me. That's a weird one, but

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:38.560
<v Speaker 1>guys do this. But if you went to that, guys

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 1>don't put that kind of effort into a birthday or

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the dates unless they're really interested. Guys out. Maybe he

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>was interested and then he saw her in that environment

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 1>and then just wasn't interested with her friends. Maybe she

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 1>got really drunk not she doesn't say. I recently went

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:55.360
<v Speaker 1>on a date and it seemed like we have a

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 1>very good connection. We have similar interests, and he opened

0:48:57.680 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 1>up to me about his personal life. All signs show

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 1>he's in interested. But I'm afraid that I'm going to

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 1>ruin it, and I'm scared he's going to run off

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 1>like the rest of the guys. I don't know if

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm intimidating or if these guys are just very good

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 1>at faking their feelings and can't be honest with me.

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:12.479
<v Speaker 1>How do I get off the ghosting streak? Valve? First

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:16.480
<v Speaker 1>of all, it's not you. Val don't think that it's you. Yeah,

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not, don't She's she's blaming herself. She's saying, I

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:21.600
<v Speaker 1>don't want to mess this up. You didn't mess the

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:23.920
<v Speaker 1>other ones up. I didn't. I still have advice for her, though,

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that she should and I don't even maybe

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 1>think that it's her that's encouraging these people to do

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 1>these like grandiose things. But that birthday party thing was

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:33.319
<v Speaker 1>a big gesture, this guy opening up a lot about

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:35.880
<v Speaker 1>his personal life. It for a first day, it's a

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 1>big gesture in a lot of like emotional ways. I

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:40.120
<v Speaker 1>guess I think what she should do is slow things down,

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:42.359
<v Speaker 1>because what the way that I perceived this is these

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 1>guys are going all out, playing out all these stops

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 1>and putting, making themselves vulnerable and then maybe not getting

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:51.360
<v Speaker 1>what they had helped to get out of it. So

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:52.840
<v Speaker 1>then they're just like, all right, I'm bailing like that

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. But what were they hoping to get

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 1>out of it? Well, like maybe they just didn't didn't

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 1>get the reaction that they were hoping to. That type

0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:03.279
<v Speaker 1>of thing. Um not not like I understand, I understand. Um,

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 1>So I would say that by like working up slowly

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 1>and slowly and stillly, slowly building and like allowing a

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>true foundation to form before like doing these great things.

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I just think that that would kind of limit the ghosting.

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Like think about this guy that through the birthday party,

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:17.360
<v Speaker 1>he's like, he's like, all right, I invited ten of

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 1>her closest friends, blindholded her, pulled out all the stops

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 1>for all this. Where where the hell do I go

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:23.320
<v Speaker 1>from here? I can't go anywhere from here, you know,

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>like I can't. I can't improve upon that. But what

0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 1>she didn't like she didn't ask him now, Yes, you're right,

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's weird. I don't like she must have a

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>great first impression or something, because she doesn't say how

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 1>long she was with these guys before they bailed. But

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:38.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's that birthday party. To ghost is weird. But

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>my only advice is it's not you don't worry about that,

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 1>and don't get in your head about this. You just

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 1>have to treat this relationship you're in now as its

0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 1>own thing. Don't worry about messing it up, have a

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 1>great time to be really open with him, don't play

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of games. Erica is looking at me like

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 1>she disagrees company No, no, I agree with you. But

0:50:56.880 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>also they always come back around. They always come back

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:03.880
<v Speaker 1>with the ghosts. These guys will reach out to her

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:05.279
<v Speaker 1>at some point, I don't know how long it's been,

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:07.920
<v Speaker 1>but in a booty hallway or just in a like

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 1>oh I messed up. And I hope that she does

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 1>not get back with them at all. Like if you

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:15.280
<v Speaker 1>go someone, you're out, You're done. I think I've always

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:18.479
<v Speaker 1>come back around. I agree. I agree with that piece

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 1>of logic. If you get ghosted by someone, you should

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>never consider taking them back to it again, like cheatery, Yeah,

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 1>did we help her at all? I don't feel like

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 1>we did. How do you get off the ghost? How

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>does she get off? I think again? My advice to

0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>her is just to take things slowly. I think has

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 1>good advice. You can't predict a ghost. But here's the thing.

0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Even if you're taking things slowly and some guy decides

0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to ghost you because he's a dick, you're not as

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 1>invested in that relationship, so you don't care quite as

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 1>much for getting ghost like they'll bail out a little

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>earlier if you've spent more time getting there, exactly like

0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:56.319
<v Speaker 1>this guy this guy again through the birthday thing for her,

0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Like she became very invested in that because it's such

0:51:58.560 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>a it's a cool thing, Like he invited all her

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:02.200
<v Speaker 1>ends a great time to spend on her on their birthday,

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff, and that's like she became invested

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:07.320
<v Speaker 1>in that. And then so when the ghosting happened, she

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:09.560
<v Speaker 1>like obviously was a little broken up about it. And

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, like, once you you have to build a

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 1>level of trust with someone that takes time. You can't

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 1>just do that overnight. Like you want to know that

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.320
<v Speaker 1>these proople that you're dating aren't going to ghost you.

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, that's my advice. I think that's

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a good advice, But you can't. You also can't, Yeah,

0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:22.800
<v Speaker 1>you can't plan on a ghost. What happens if she

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:24.279
<v Speaker 1>just like goes to the guy that she's dating now

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and be like, listen, if you ghost me, I'm coming out.

0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I tried that. I tried that. After ghost one and

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:34.279
<v Speaker 1>goes to the third ghost, I said, look, last two

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 1>they just kind of vanished. If it's not happening for you,

0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you can tell me it's fine, I'll be okay. The

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:43.040
<v Speaker 1>third the worst ghost of all, Yeah, because I just

0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 1>said that to her, not just at that too, or

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 1>was you know, a month after that or something, and

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:49.040
<v Speaker 1>that she just vanished. Like do you think if you

0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:51.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't say it to her, she would have gosted you sooner? Maybe?

0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I got a principle. She's like, I

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta stick it out for another month and a half. Now,

0:52:56.920 --> 0:53:00.320
<v Speaker 1>certainly possible. Eliza wants to talk to d and she

0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 1>has a very specific reason why. I love the podcast.

0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:05.799
<v Speaker 1>It's been fun and interesting getting to know you. Dean.

0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.320
<v Speaker 1>A little background. I'm forty, I've married five and a

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 1>half years. We have two kids. Before I got married,

0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I had mixed feelings about it, and my parents divorces

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that around me growing up. I always

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 1>knew I wanted to be a mother. I would have

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 1>been okay having kids before marriage, but my husband's a

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Christian who felt very strongly about being married before starting

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:24.440
<v Speaker 1>a family. We got married in a year later, had

0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 1>a first son. Now, like most married couples, we have

0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:29.360
<v Speaker 1>her ups and downs. Some challenges for me, according to

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 1>my husband, are my communication and not enough praise and thanks.

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I've heard you talk a few times about love, languages

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:39.279
<v Speaker 1>and my husband's is words of affirmation mineus touch. I've

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:41.359
<v Speaker 1>read the chapter several times and I must be missing

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:43.839
<v Speaker 1>something because I can't seem to provide enough to meet

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 1>his needs. So my question is, how can I improve

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:49.480
<v Speaker 1>in that area? What does words of affirmation mean to you?

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Because that's yours, right Dean, that's your love language, words

0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 1>of affirmation, that's my second okay, So what does that

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:55.960
<v Speaker 1>mean to you? And how do you see it being

0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:58.319
<v Speaker 1>played out in a relationship I love, I would love

0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Mark and Easton's perspective as well being married and all

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 1>thanks guys a lies uh oh, and then we'll get

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to her ps in a second. But that's a good

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:07.439
<v Speaker 1>question too. But let's talk about this at first. Words

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 1>of affirmation. Yeah, I think that with words of affirmation

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 1>be my second one. Physical touches my first. I think

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>my at least perspective on this is I like to

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 1>go out of my way to do um small things

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:22.560
<v Speaker 1>for the girl that I'm dating, whatever it is, um

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 1>and or just anyone in general, friends, family, and I

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 1>don't do it for the sake of like feeling good

0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 1>for myself. I like to obviously make people happy for

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 1>those types of gestures that you do. But it is

0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:36.000
<v Speaker 1>really really nice when someone's like, thank you so much

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:39.479
<v Speaker 1>for this for dinner, for taking us up to Tallo

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:41.120
<v Speaker 1>for the weekend, for whatever it is, for taking us

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to Hawaii for the weekend. You know, it's like all

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it takes is like a very small uh like appreciation

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and may maybe that's not even words of affirmation is

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:49.279
<v Speaker 1>but it's like if if she could go to him

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and be like, hey, babe, thank you so much for

0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:53.239
<v Speaker 1>cleaning the dishes after I cooked or something like that.

0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:55.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, like that type of stuff I think that

0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:58.799
<v Speaker 1>typically goes unnoticed or at least unmentioned. Um can kind

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of like build up over time, and maybe like he

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 1>would think that she's ungrateful of that type of stuff.

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:05.200
<v Speaker 1>So I've had trouble with this this words of affirmation

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:08.800
<v Speaker 1>concept too. So it's not so much oh you're the greatest,

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh you're so handsome, Oh you're so strong. It's not

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:12.840
<v Speaker 1>so much that as it is thank you for what

0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:16.319
<v Speaker 1>you do. Uh. Oh you hung your towel up after

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the shower, Thank you for doing that. Oh you put

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 1>your socks in the happer, thank you good. You know

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:21.880
<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing is without without patronizing because that

0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 1>sounds that you're right, But it's more thanking you for

0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the effort you put forth in the relationship. Is it

0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 1>also I love you so much. You're the greatest thing.

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh you're such a great part boyfriend. I love you.

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I love you. I hear that. Yeah, what do you

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 1>think I'm I'm still wrapping my brain. I don't think

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 1>words of affirmation are high on my list because I don't.

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I need that sort of I think

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.240
<v Speaker 1>that's because you're a confident person. So what I'm slowly

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 1>realizing too, that's why words words affirmation is number two

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 1>on my list is because I'm insecure as all hell,

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:55.279
<v Speaker 1>and so what I kind of gain out of the

0:55:55.320 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 1>words of affirmation is like it kind of tempers my

0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:01.399
<v Speaker 1>insecurities a little bit. You know, Yeah, I suppose that's true. Yeah,

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm obviously I don't know her husband. But where does

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:05.560
<v Speaker 1>that Where does the insecurity come from? I don't know

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:10.080
<v Speaker 1>self worth that type of stuff. Did this go back

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to your parents? I don't know. It's honestly something that

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I really dealt with before. But in in like the

0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:16.839
<v Speaker 1>last six months or so, I feel like my self

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:18.400
<v Speaker 1>worth is kind of diminished a little bit. And so

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:21.239
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because now you're coming off of being on TV,

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's not a coincidence, I don't think I

0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:26.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think so either, But it's just it's it's it

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:29.319
<v Speaker 1>goes a long way when the person that I'm dating

0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 1>reassures me or affirms me in a relationship or just

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>in general. Because I don't know, having a self deprecating

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:38.960
<v Speaker 1>podcast help I suck a dating. I need I need

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:40.919
<v Speaker 1>that affirmation in my life, and it goes a long way.

0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Interesting because because you seem you come off to me

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 1>as a confident guy. Oh you're you're a handsome guy.

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 1>You got a lot going on for you, You're young,

0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 1>keep goingmation. Is it's interesting that being secure, But that's

0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a lesson that everybody has insecurities, no matter how they

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:00.960
<v Speaker 1>appear from the outside, right, isn't that the lesson there?

0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Um Erica? Yeah, do you know your love languages? I

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 1>just pulled them up quality time and then words of

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 1>affirmation then goes down from there. But you know what

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:13.439
<v Speaker 1>I think is interesting is like, is the husband paying

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 1>attention to her love language? Are they just not good? Questions?

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Physical touch through each other's love languages, and therefore there's

0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a slight disconnect. It kind of sounds like to me

0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 1>like he's being a little bit selfish and saying we're

0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 1>having problems because you don't affirm me enough. Um. And

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's just because I want to take the woman's

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:34.280
<v Speaker 1>side a little bit, but it kind of sounds like

0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:37.000
<v Speaker 1>he isn't compromising as well. That's very good point that

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:38.800
<v Speaker 1>it goes both ways. She didn't really mention much about

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:41.560
<v Speaker 1>him doing anything for her physical touch needs, right. Is

0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>she getting foot massages? By the way, this is strange

0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:48.920
<v Speaker 1>because I just pulled up my words of affirmation. I

0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:51.560
<v Speaker 1>forgot about this because I took it a year ago.

0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Your love languages, love languages? What did I say? Words

0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:58.400
<v Speaker 1>of affirmation is my tough one. So maybe I'm crazy.

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Although there is something to be said about that test

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 1>because the questions are very leading to the answers, and

0:58:05.280 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 1>so it's like, I think I'm physical touch, and so

0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I was answering questions like physical touch, physical touch, physical touch,

0:58:10.320 --> 0:58:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you know right right, It's like, would you prefer to

0:58:12.680 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 1>be snuggles or would you prefer to have someone buy

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you a present snuggle? I wonder which question leads to

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:21.800
<v Speaker 1>which answer you know, yeah, But then there's like me

0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:24.080
<v Speaker 1>who like physical touch is my last one and that

0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:26.960
<v Speaker 1>is spot on, like I'm not a cuddly person market

0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 1>because I won't hug doesn't hugever like under any circle

0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I hugged Dean Hello. So we see each other less frequently,

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:38.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe once a week. I see Mark so many hours

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 1>of every day, like I spent a whole lot of

0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:43.320
<v Speaker 1>time with you, So that I'm just saying that's true,

0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that she has rules like if you're going away for

0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:49.320
<v Speaker 1>a two week vacation, other than that, forgive it weekend

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:53.960
<v Speaker 1>handshake nothing nothing. Did we help Eliza? I think so?

0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the key is Erica's point that

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:57.360
<v Speaker 1>it's got to go both ways. And I hope he's

0:58:57.400 --> 0:58:59.120
<v Speaker 1>giving you the touch you need as well as you

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 1>as you're giving him the affirmation he needs. And I

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 1>think you answered her question about what does that mean

0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:05.640
<v Speaker 1>to you? And I think you answered it on to me,

0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 1>A word of affirmation is best applied when there's an

0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 1>active service involved. So it's like say he like I said, like,

0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:14.400
<v Speaker 1>say he does something. If I were him, I would

0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:16.480
<v Speaker 1>really really hope that she that it doesn't go unnoticed.

0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess is the thing and it goes appreciate it

0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and that would just really make everything. But let me

0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 1>read her ps because it is something we neglected to

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:24.439
<v Speaker 1>talk about. She says, I don't know if I missed

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:26.720
<v Speaker 1>it or what, but I hope it's okay to ask.

0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:29.720
<v Speaker 1>How did Hawaii go with your siblings and your mom's

0:59:29.720 --> 0:59:33.280
<v Speaker 1>ashes over Christmas and New Year's? It went well. We

0:59:33.400 --> 0:59:35.840
<v Speaker 1>never really talked about that. We kind of touched on.

0:59:35.920 --> 0:59:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember it after the fact, remember beforehand, but

0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I remember after the fact. Yeah, we went, Uh, there's me,

0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:42.680
<v Speaker 1>my two brothers, and my sister. My father did not

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:46.280
<v Speaker 1>join us. Um. I think this is kind of one

0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:48.640
<v Speaker 1>of the things where words of affirmation was important to me.

0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really get that like I felt. So it

0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:52.960
<v Speaker 1>was like it was I took the responsibility to plan

0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the trip and get everyone out there, organize everything, logistics,

0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 1>financed everything, whatever it is. Are you the oldest, I'm

0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the youngest. You're the youngest. Yeah, how many siblings? Three?

1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:04.680
<v Speaker 1>So it's me, I'm twenty six, My sister is twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>Bratt Ross's thirty one, Brat is thirty four. So these

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<v Speaker 1>four siblings and you had the ashes. Yes, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I necessarily, so I guess I can say that.

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<v Speaker 1>So for three months when I was in college, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like a junior senior. My brother, one of

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<v Speaker 1>my older brothers, came under like hard times. He's always

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<v Speaker 1>kind of been like financial hardship, all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, yeah, please come live with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more than have you, like take you under my

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<v Speaker 1>roof and allow you to kind of get back on

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<v Speaker 1>your feet sort of thing. And he had the ashes

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, um, and he likes put him in

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<v Speaker 1>the closet or something like that. And then when he

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<v Speaker 1>moved out, he like forgot to take them with him

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. And this was like five or

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<v Speaker 1>six years ago, so he forgot them. Um. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like cleaning out, and I like, it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>too because I forgot like something stupid, like a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of shoes or something when we were fully moving out,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was moving to Denver after I graduated college.

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<v Speaker 1>And I go in and I could do one final

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<v Speaker 1>clean sweep of the apartment as we're moving out, and

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<v Speaker 1>I look in like a closet, like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>back corners and I see like the um, the box

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<v Speaker 1>with the ashes in it. The box is not an urn,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a earn, it was it was what the

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<v Speaker 1>crematory put it put the ashes in UM. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was just really frustrating to me too, because it was

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<v Speaker 1>like he wasn't trusted with the ashes for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly why he was chosen to watch

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<v Speaker 1>after them the oldest, he's the second oldest. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he just left him and I was like, well, like,

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<v Speaker 1>these are okay, this is obviously something sorry for the curse.

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<v Speaker 1>This is obviously something that you never should have been

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<v Speaker 1>responsible in the first place. If that's like the way

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<v Speaker 1>that you would kind of like go about that, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just kind of took it upon myself to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, all right, like these are mine now. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever anyone asked me for him, and they're like they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can I have that? Can hold on to them, I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't hold onto anything. I'm holding on to them now.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are all idiots. UM. And then so we

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<v Speaker 1>went to who I did all that stuff everything, um,

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<v Speaker 1>flight hotel meals, flight hotel meals probably like I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>the meals, rental car um activities, all kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean that's not that like that's fine, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was never like a moment where they were like

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<v Speaker 1>they were like thank you for like doing this for us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there were like small thank you, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was still as just you know, it's I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of almost hate myself like being like, well, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>didn't thank me for the trip because that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>makes me suit like sound a little b conceded. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like annoying that they didn't show any

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<v Speaker 1>like it is annoying. But but as some people do

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time with that. It's hard thanking people sincerely.

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<v Speaker 1>It's difficult for some people for whatever reason it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's guilt that they didn't do this. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think of this, they forgot the ashes there that there

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<v Speaker 1>might be guilt involved. There prevents them from someone said

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<v Speaker 1>that I was talking to my friend about this and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, well, sometimes like maybe ego gets involved where

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<v Speaker 1>your siblings are all older than you and they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do this for you, but you were the one

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<v Speaker 1>that did it for them, so they kind of felt

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<v Speaker 1>slighted a little bit. Um so other than that, Like again,

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't didn't take back from the trip. The trip

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<v Speaker 1>was still beautiful, Like Hawai's incredible place. Um. We hiked

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<v Speaker 1>up to this lighthouse on Christmas Day at sunrise, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I was able to spread the ashes. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more ashes in there than I was expecting

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<v Speaker 1>them to be. Was there, um or the reason for

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<v Speaker 1>that location? Had she been there? She said, when she

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<v Speaker 1>was on her on her on the bed in the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I want my ashes scattered on the cliff

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<v Speaker 1>side in Hawaii. So we were just like this seemed

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<v Speaker 1>a good cliff. My sister brought four packets of wildflower seeds,

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<v Speaker 1>so we like, uh, mixed the wildflower seeds in the

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<v Speaker 1>ashes and spread him. It was great. And then my

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<v Speaker 1>sister left the next day. My brother left the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>and then my other brothers stayed for like three or

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<v Speaker 1>four more days and just kind of hung out. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>was it emotional when you let them go? Was there tears?

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<v Speaker 1>My sister cried. It wasn't necessarily emotional for me or

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers. It was just like it was just nice

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<v Speaker 1>that we could kind of like close that, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about it anymore, you know, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>all of the grieving that we've done has kind of

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<v Speaker 1>already transpired already kind of like and I don't say passed,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're never gonna be passed it essentially, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was more of just a matter of like, this was

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<v Speaker 1>her dying lish and we're like, we're finally grateful to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to be doing Um. So yeah, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was good. There's a great book I recommend called Kids

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<v Speaker 1>of Appetite, h And part of it is this teenage

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<v Speaker 1>boy and he's trying to fulfill his dad's dying wishes

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<v Speaker 1>that he found in the urn that was in his

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<v Speaker 1>mom's house. All that he opened up the urn in

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<v Speaker 1>was a note in there, and it was all these

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<v Speaker 1>things he wanted done with his ashes, put them here,

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<v Speaker 1>puts them here. And so that's kind of the book,

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<v Speaker 1>him going, him and his new friends going place to

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<v Speaker 1>place and scattering some ashes. And it made me think

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<v Speaker 1>of that that, Yeah, it is nice to get, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, the closure and doing that internal thing for

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<v Speaker 1>your mom. Yeah yeah. So yeah, So I guess to

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<v Speaker 1>Eliza's point, so if for not talking about it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more depth, but um, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I find that very interesting. I still like, really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been what two and a half months, it's Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't talked to my siblings since? Were you close growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the age gap made it difficult for us

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<v Speaker 1>all to be close. I was like such a big dork,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was. I like, but never my brothers brought

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<v Speaker 1>their friends around. I embarrassed the crap out of them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the youngest child. Yeah, yeah, my sister. I would like.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember like when my sister's friends would call the

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<v Speaker 1>house because it's like a communal house, and you would

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<v Speaker 1>get on the other phone line and listen. No, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never done that either as a twelve year old boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Markets And I'm sure I hope at least you share this. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Your voice comes across as very feminine when you answer

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, and when and when my sister's friends were calling,

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<v Speaker 1>they were expecting her to answer, and so I would

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<v Speaker 1>answer and they would be like, oh my god, Sky, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you And I'm like, no, it's Dean. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would start answering the phone like hello, like in

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<v Speaker 1>the deepest voice I could. And I just remember there's

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<v Speaker 1>like small things like that, like it was just I

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<v Speaker 1>was always kind of more of like an embarrassment for

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<v Speaker 1>my siblings than I was like a friend. I doubt

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<v Speaker 1>they feel that way about you. Well now they don't

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Now they don't at all. I'm just saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>as like that's those are those growing up because then

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<v Speaker 1>when my mother passed away when I was fifteen, like

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<v Speaker 1>when I was finally starting to be like tolerable around

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<v Speaker 1>hit their friends. It's like that's when we like didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really start hanging out anymore because like they didn't live

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere nearby. So it's just we're friends. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just an age gap. I guess yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess my sister and I are like that, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>talk a couple of times a year, like there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a there's not there's huge months and months and months

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<v Speaker 1>will go by without chatting. So I guess that's natural.

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<v Speaker 1>How often you talk to your siblings, like one of

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<v Speaker 1>my sisters every single day. I think sisters are different

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<v Speaker 1>because I have two sisters. I talked to one every

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<v Speaker 1>single day. I talked to the other multiple times a week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a group text of my siblings. I was

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<v Speaker 1>blown up earlier today but I'm twenty four. My brother

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<v Speaker 1>is thirty and he's the oldest. I'm the youngest. We're

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<v Speaker 1>all really close in age any of one in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>The ones in the middle are nine, oh seely and

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<v Speaker 1>four two twins twins. But like, your story is fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Yeah, Like I I don't. I wouldn't handle

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<v Speaker 1>everything the way you do. I don't think that I

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<v Speaker 1>handle it capably at all, but I don't. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like being willing to take in your brother when

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<v Speaker 1>you were still in college. That's like a that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that's like abnormal, and like you should praise yourself for that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny too, because I asked you were when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in New York last week. We're talking, uh to

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<v Speaker 1>like some interviewer and he's like, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about like your fans or something like that, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, first of all, the word fans of me

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<v Speaker 1>is so weird because because people are fans of the

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<v Speaker 1>people that go on the show because they can find

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<v Speaker 1>something to relate to them about, you know, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you're like living through those experiences, like when every moment,

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<v Speaker 1>every like trial retipulation has happened to me, in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look at it as something like this is

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<v Speaker 1>like something that's changing me. It's just it's another thing

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<v Speaker 1>you have to get through, you know. And now, like

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<v Speaker 1>when you're twenty six years old and you can look

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<v Speaker 1>back and you can be like, those are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the pivotal transformational moments, but you didn't really think

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<v Speaker 1>of anything as about them while they were happening. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what people like find it's just really weird. So

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<v Speaker 1>like like you like you're saying, like you have a

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating life. I don't really see my life as fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw it as me like getting through every

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<v Speaker 1>moment we've come to. That's but that's the point. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like anyone you can ask anyone I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that's been through a lot, Like Eric Biger went and

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<v Speaker 1>grew up on the streets of Baltimore, and he I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure like if he looks back, he's like, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like getting waking up in the morning from

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<v Speaker 1>bed at night and I wasn't really sure what I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing. It's just life exactly. But to us it's

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating because there's so many stories and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it's fascinating. Just blows my mind because no one's ever

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was fascinating before. But then you put on

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<v Speaker 1>this platform with But I'd like to say, if you

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<v Speaker 1>had never been on the Bachelor at I think we

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<v Speaker 1>still find your really fascinating. If we sat down and

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<v Speaker 1>talked like I'd still be like, I'm sorry what all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things? Yeah, I suppose I wouldn't ever talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it though, the thing here we are. Can I

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<v Speaker 1>just say one thing real quick, totally off topic. I

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<v Speaker 1>had this sounds so crazy. I had a dream the

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<v Speaker 1>other day about and they're like teasing up this. There's

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<v Speaker 1>this new couple coming from Bachelor Nation. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>dream dream And into the studio walks Dean and Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>Lindsay and I literally woke up. It almost texted you

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, why are you back with? And then

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<v Speaker 1>I had to process the fact that she is totally

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<v Speaker 1>you are hypothetically maybe going to be in a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>soon Like it was it was so real. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>ever talk to her? So I don't know where this

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<v Speaker 1>came from. I had to put it out. That's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Dreams are very I mean, I wish we could have

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast just dedicated to dreams because I have the

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<v Speaker 1>most insane dreams. Well, let's book a dream expert, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's easy. We can get a Yes, book a dream expert.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not even like I don't even have dreams

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, oh, I kind of remember some things

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<v Speaker 1>I remember like the weirdest dreams ever, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why, Like do you have you have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of weird dreams. Oh, I have like full relationships and dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird stuff. All right, Well let's get a dream

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<v Speaker 1>Um okay, Well, so that'll do it for episode X

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<v Speaker 1>of Help I Second Dating. Big thank you to Genie

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<v Speaker 1>Asamos from e Harmy dot com. Uh. Their happiness Index

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<v Speaker 1>comes out on Thursday. Be sure to check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>You can check it out on the harmy dot com

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<v Speaker 1>slash advice. UM, we love your emails. Keep emailing them in. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>the first half of this podcast typically, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just looking forward to this part of it is, or

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<v Speaker 1>the email part of it, So keep them coming. I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to reincorporate phone calls back into the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do and ask Dean anything segment, but

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<v Speaker 1>we can't do that until Winter Games ares, because then

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<v Speaker 1>people can actually ask you anything. Can we actually circle

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<v Speaker 1>back quickly to the dating Dudes and Don't with Dean Angler.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. It's a lot, it's a mouthful, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost so long to the point that it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>gimmicky to be acceptable. You know, it sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>college course or something. Dating Dudes and don't with Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe this is Dean's college course for everything. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just dating Dean, like forgetting Star Marshall dating

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Alert you don't hit it, don't hate him? What

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<v Speaker 1>about dating Deans and don'ts that incorporates both of them

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<v Speaker 1>dating Dean for Mark dating Deans and don't know. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not making up boards. No, we're not compromising. Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>find a title that you like by uh yeah, okay, um. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back next week potentially. Thank you again for

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<v Speaker 1>listening to episode seventeen of Help I Suck At Dating.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back next week for the show still called

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<v Speaker 1>Help I Suck At Dating? Next week yields a new

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<v Speaker 1>possibility for a greater future for all of us, So

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to tune in next week because maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>suck a little bit Less, Follow, Help I Suck at

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<v Speaker 1>Dating with Dean Anglert on I Heart Radio, or subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you listen to podcasts.