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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal. I'll that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>And then and tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the solid verbal, boys and girls, my

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<v Speaker 2>name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always my good

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<v Speaker 1>A man Dan Rubenstein, sir, how are you shot out

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<v Speaker 1>of a cannon? Tie? Both you and I. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Have we decided? Are we dressing up? I think we

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<v Speaker 2>as well as the podcast. So here's the deal, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>We've been doing this now for I guess a week

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<v Speaker 2>and a half, running where we're going two shows a

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<v Speaker 2>week because people crave that hot fire of early college

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<v Speaker 2>football season previews. And so we've done the ACC Atlantic

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<v Speaker 2>aka FA Atlantic, We've done the Big ten West, We've

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<v Speaker 2>done the SEC East. Today we're going to do the

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<v Speaker 2>whole dang Big twelve. Yeah, the whole Tomali. We're also

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<v Speaker 2>going to do some independence, which I lovably refer to

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<v Speaker 2>as notre dame in BYU, can we do?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we do the top two teams of the Big twelve? Whoever?

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<v Speaker 1>We determine those to be a second time at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>just because it feels like we're honoring what the Big

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<v Speaker 1>twelve is by having a quick little replay at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>That is correct. I think that's the move. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>is the move sho. We just jump right in, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's start where we always start, Big twelve. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have my soundboard on me today because again I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sort of in transit and unable to have the modern luxuries.

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<v Speaker 1>Of my new recording studio.

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<v Speaker 2>But Big twelve you will go over the Big Twelve

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen. My initial read was that it's wide open,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely wide open this year. Agreed, disagree any further? Commentary,

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<v Speaker 2>the battle for number two feels wide open. The battle

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<v Speaker 2>for number one feels less open. And to me, when

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<v Speaker 2>evaluating a conference, that anytime you look at what a

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<v Speaker 2>team could be concerned or to be any team that

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<v Speaker 2>because is considered to be a favorite, it's generally the

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<v Speaker 2>team with the least questions in its consistency, it's depth, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But at this point it's hard to make a case.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand TCU, I understand Oklahoma State, I can

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<v Speaker 1>I can twist my brain around a path with which

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<v Speaker 1>they could ascend to the top of Mount Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>But the team with the clear fewest questions is Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>and the clear highest upside with the fewest questions is Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>So my view is that it's a race for number two. Wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how about but another good middle class, a robust, totally

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<v Speaker 1>thriving middle class. Which if we're going to get into

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<v Speaker 1>a silly argument about best conferences, it's generally to me

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<v Speaker 1>it's do you have more than one team in the

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<v Speaker 1>top tier and do you have a pretty expansive middle class?

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<v Speaker 1>And right now the ACC looks like it is probably

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<v Speaker 1>the srongest in that there's I mean, we mentioned this

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<v Speaker 1>joke free ACC, but the Big Twelve is nearing that,

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<v Speaker 1>and this year will go a long way towards shaping

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<v Speaker 1>our joke freeness of the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the ACC is the strongest conference.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the strongest conference in that there are

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<v Speaker 1>multiple teams at like in a clear top tier with

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a Big Twelve show, so we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into the granular elements of it, but

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<v Speaker 1>with Florida State, Miami, and Clemson right now, those teams

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<v Speaker 1>have the talent and ceilings and coaching staff. Florida State

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<v Speaker 1>less so in the very short term, but in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of power teams and then from there, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there's any team that's as bad as Kansas has been,

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<v Speaker 1>or as Oregon State has been, or as Rutgers and

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland for a variety of reasons, granted, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there are excuse me and Illinois, how dare I

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<v Speaker 1>leave off Illinois in their quest for like three in

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Twelve. There is currently Baylor, but circumstances have

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<v Speaker 1>been such where you can't say they are are a

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<v Speaker 1>bottom feeding program for purely football reasons right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>only that that it's just Kansas right now, not having

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<v Speaker 1>those multiple bottom feeders like those other conferences, like a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of other conferences have. I think the ACC is

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<v Speaker 1>the most devoid of jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Most devoid of jokes. Okay, so we went from strongest

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<v Speaker 2>to most devoid of jokes, which is a bit of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Fans and a hardy middle class, like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>teams being between six and six and eight and four,

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<v Speaker 1>And that doesn't mean they're bad. That just means they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to beat each other up and they're all pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to disagree with you, but I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to disagree with you now because we promise people Big

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<v Speaker 2>twelve content. Dan, I'm right, So all right, we both

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<v Speaker 2>agree that there is a wide open quality to the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Twelve, whether you're talking about the top dog or

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<v Speaker 2>the second dog, regardless, there's a wide open quality to

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<v Speaker 2>it that suits it quite honestly, because the Big Twelve

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<v Speaker 2>has always been wide open offensively. There is that I

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<v Speaker 2>care extra about the Big Twelve this year because there

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<v Speaker 2>are two teams in here on which on whom for

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<v Speaker 2>whom I have bet the over Okay, on season win

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<v Speaker 2>total because you know it's sort of legal now, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to live free or die betting on the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Twelves.

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<v Speaker 1>You live near New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>I live very near New Jersey. We can do it

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<v Speaker 2>down at the Borgotta. Now I didn't do it there,

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<v Speaker 2>but nonetheless there are two teams. I will reveal those

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<v Speaker 2>two teams as we go through that. I felt very

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<v Speaker 2>confident in the over and have laid down a few

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<v Speaker 2>of my.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard earned shekels on. Okay, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you want to start here in the Big Twelve?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, where the wind comes sweeping through the planes. Eleven

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<v Speaker 2>and one last year in the regular season, they hammered

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<v Speaker 2>TCU in the Big Twelve Championship, lost in doublet and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the all time great Rose Bowls to the

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<v Speaker 2>George Bulldogs. This year, Dan, I look, the first reason

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<v Speaker 2>to care is because the quarterback situation at Oklahoma is

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<v Speaker 2>just it's supremely weird. Yeah, okay, because they lose Baker Mayfield,

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<v Speaker 2>who's one of their all time grades, maybe one of

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<v Speaker 2>the all time grades, not just of theirs college football's

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<v Speaker 2>that is fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They replace Baker with Kyler Murray, who in and of

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<v Speaker 2>himself is a unique case.

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<v Speaker 1>Is somebody. I'm gonna say it again.

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<v Speaker 2>If somebody does not make the video montage of Kyler

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<v Speaker 2>Murray set to Eminem's lose yourself, I'm gonna do it myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he's only got one shot. That's the agreement he

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<v Speaker 2>worked out with the Oakland Athletics. They're going to pay

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<v Speaker 2>him five mill They're gonna still retain him as like

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<v Speaker 2>a top ten pick in the Major League Baseball draft.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's got only one shot to play quarterback, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just time to lose himself in that in that

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<v Speaker 2>college football moment in Norman. So that that is the first,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, big reason to care about Oklahoma football this year.

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<v Speaker 2>The obvious being that Kyler Murray is a just a weird,

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<v Speaker 2>unique case.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I be a wet blanket? Please? You might not.

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<v Speaker 1>He might. There is a chance he doesn't win the job.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine? I think there is a chance. I

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<v Speaker 1>think coaches are good, and the best coaches are good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to give the ball to who gives them the

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<v Speaker 1>best chance to win in the short, medium, and long term.

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Kendall was supposedly and he came in as a

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<v Speaker 1>blue chip quarterback, certainly talented, quarterback had a good spring

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<v Speaker 1>right alongside Kyler Murray. And I believe Kendall's a sophomore, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a sophomore. Yes, that's correct all things, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you know you're gonna have him for three years. Hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you speaking. I'm not crowning. Well, no, that's phrasing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not crowning.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, and I'm with you. I always felt

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<v Speaker 2>that from it. I think I've gone on the record

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<v Speaker 2>here on the show a couple times now. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>a fan of Oklahoma, this isn't really a great situation

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<v Speaker 2>because Kyler Murray, if he twists an ankle, he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Got no reason to go out there and chance it. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll think you still will if he starts.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, but he's not a piece that you can

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<v Speaker 2>build upon moving forward. A guy like an Austin Kendall,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who's younger, obviously is going to be around the

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<v Speaker 2>program more, doesn't have those extenuating circumstances. I have jotted

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<v Speaker 2>down here in my notes that if I were a

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<v Speaker 2>betting man, and I've already professed to being one, I

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<v Speaker 2>would bet on this Kyler Murray thing not working out,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't. I don't mean that because I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's yeah, a head case. I don't mean that because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm rooting for him to get hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Quarterback situations in college football tend to go awry, and

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<v Speaker 2>this really is a weird situation. So to your point,

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<v Speaker 2>if Austin Kendall ends up getting more starts than meets

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<v Speaker 2>the eye now in late July, Lie, that should not

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<v Speaker 2>surprise anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't say this, but your phrasing is such that

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to confirm that you were calling Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Murray the Greg Paulus of twenty eighteen. Wow, Yes, good

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<v Speaker 1>woe only has that one shot from a different sport on.

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<v Speaker 1>So here here are some facts about why if Kyler Murray,

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<v Speaker 1>and I expect Kyler Murray to win this job, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think his ceiling is certainly higher athletically and as

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<v Speaker 1>a he's got a great arm, obviously going to play

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<v Speaker 1>Major League baseball. Everything is going for Kyler Murray. The

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<v Speaker 1>situation around him is such that there is a talent incubation.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a snow globe where all of the flakes

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<v Speaker 1>of snow are just bountiful and magical, Rodnie Anderson is

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible running back, one of the best, probably ten

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<v Speaker 1>running backs in the country. He's big, he's fast. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw everything he could do, especially in the back half

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty seventeen. The receiving corps looks to be fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>and deep. There. You know, Lincoln Riley and that staff

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<v Speaker 1>are recruiting super well. Ceedee Lamb looks like he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have another huge year. I think he's only a sophomore,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's Marquise Brown is the other guy

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<v Speaker 1>that should put up their numbers. Sure, the line, even

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<v Speaker 1>though I think they lose their left tackle in Orlando

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<v Speaker 1>Brown and their center from last season, they've recruited the

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<v Speaker 1>line so well and developed the line incredibly well that

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not a question for me. Defensively, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like two different teams at times. They finished the season

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well, but obviously we're garbage or the regular season,

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<v Speaker 1>but garbage and the Rose Bowl in the second half.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the defense will be fine. I think it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like a top forty seven defense, which with what

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<v Speaker 1>that offense can do at its peak, is fine, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in the Big twelve. They might lose something dumb, like

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<v Speaker 1>they did last year to Iowa State. Not taking anything

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<v Speaker 1>away from the Clones, Go Clones, but that wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>game they should have lost. And I am confident that

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<v Speaker 1>with that coaching staff and that continuity, with what Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Murray should be able to develop into. You know, by October,

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<v Speaker 1>this could be an incredible offense once again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the offense is gonna be dynamic. They're gonna win

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<v Speaker 2>games with or without Kyler Murray. There's no denying this

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<v Speaker 2>is a good team, a good cast of characters. He's

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<v Speaker 2>just one player, even though he might be an X factor.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the offense for all the reasons you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>From Rodney Anderson, the cee, Lamb, Marky's Brown, the line.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna put up points one way or another. I

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<v Speaker 2>have concerns about that defense. I agree with you top

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven if you want to go there, that's fine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they lose four of their top six tacklers. They lose

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen of their twenty six sacks from a year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>For the most part, that's gonna be fine. The road schedule, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is brutal, and I think one of the early schedule

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<v Speaker 2>and road schedule, Yeah, totally. I think one of these

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<v Speaker 2>four road games in conference is a loss, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think either at Iowa State at TCU I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>down at Texas Tech, I don't really mean that they're

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<v Speaker 2>not done.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's okay. I'm going to defend that scribbled

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<v Speaker 1>note that you have.

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<v Speaker 2>And also at West Virginia later on in the year.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those four games, one of those three games

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<v Speaker 2>is probably a loss in my book. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if they get to the same heights as they

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<v Speaker 2>did a year ago, but I still do feel pretty

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<v Speaker 2>strongly that this is the best team in the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, they opened with fau which is minus last

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<v Speaker 1>year's quarterback. I mean, an infusion of crazy blue chip

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<v Speaker 1>talent transfers, and without Kendall Brile's running the offense the

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<v Speaker 1>lane Kiff, it's a Charlie Weiss offense. Dan, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a Charlie Weiss esque offense. UCLA shouldn't be all that

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<v Speaker 1>difficult at home and only week two of Chip Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>at Iowa State. It's going to be tricky, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they will be plenty focused for that. Army

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<v Speaker 1>will be again and it's tricky, but they'll be fine

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<v Speaker 1>against Army. The I do have. I mean at TCU

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<v Speaker 1>a week after getting Texas a week after a rivalry game.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, they have a bye week before TCU, but

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<v Speaker 1>even still, it's a string of games and going to

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech after Kansas State kind of different styles. I

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<v Speaker 1>know Kansas State has opened it up a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw the emergence of Byron pring the last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but that to me feels like the differing styles Texas

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<v Speaker 1>Tech turning teams over a lot defensively. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>very strange to say that a developing Texas Tech defense

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<v Speaker 1>could affect things, but that is, you know, typically there

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<v Speaker 1>is that Baker Mayfield had to throw for seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards for Oklahoma to win this game, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>we are we could stumble on a week where Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Murray's four fourteen wasn't enough to beat Texas Tech in

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<v Speaker 1>a losing effort. I think that could be a situation.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So we're in a green that Oklahoma's probably

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<v Speaker 2>the best team in the Big twelve. What are you

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<v Speaker 2>thinking in terms of a win total.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they will probably win ten games. I

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<v Speaker 1>think ten games is where it's at. If they go

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and one with their all time best quarterback ten

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<v Speaker 1>and two without him feels.

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<v Speaker 2>Realistic, totally. All right, let's go on then to our

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<v Speaker 2>number two team.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, as you.

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<v Speaker 2>Said at the top, it's even more wide open once

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<v Speaker 2>you start going down or wrung. I think it's Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm torn a little bit between Texas and TCU,

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<v Speaker 2>but my vote would be for the Longhorns. Here tell

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<v Speaker 2>me I like Texas. I care about Texas because I

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<v Speaker 2>always care about Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that is true.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got a team with more experience for me year ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think more importantly, they have a schedule to

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<v Speaker 2>contend for the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are their true road games. They go to Maryland, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty high on Maryland this year, though we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>talked about them yet. I don't know if they beat Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>but to Maryland early, to k State, to Oklahoma State,

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<v Speaker 2>to Texas Tech, and to Kansas. That is workable right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that the foundation for this team is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a defense with a lot of experience.

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<v Speaker 1>They are losing a star.

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<v Speaker 2>At each level of the defense with Puna Ford up

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<v Speaker 2>front and Malik Jefferson at linebacker. De Shaun Elliott in

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<v Speaker 2>the back. It hurts to lose those guys, but there

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<v Speaker 2>are seven starters coming back. Todd Lander has got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to work with. Clearly the second best defense in

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Twelve, behind TCU. That's a good start in

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<v Speaker 2>a conference that isn't known for defense. Having one means something.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that bodes really well for Texas. And then offensively,

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<v Speaker 2>I care because I think the quarterback battle is interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I don't think it's much of a battle.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Sam Ellinger. I think he's the dude. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the running game gets better. It's just it's been

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<v Speaker 2>so long since we could be jazzed up about a

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<v Speaker 2>Texas running game. I don't know how good it gets,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's got to be better than it's been. So

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<v Speaker 2>all of those things together, combined with a pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line, the complete defense, I think all of that

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<v Speaker 2>is working in Texas's favor. I don't like that they

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<v Speaker 2>lost their punter. Is that weird of me to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Ty, I was gonna wait. You stole a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of my thunder. I was gonna wait until you were done.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know how you begin rattling off Texas

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<v Speaker 1>players who are no longer with the team because they've

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<v Speaker 1>gone to the NFL. And you don't talk about Michael Dixon,

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<v Speaker 1>the single most important departure football, the single most impactful departure. Wow, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna cut ahead. You'll be mine forever, baby, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Dixon's gone. And what I'm hearing from you is

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<v Speaker 1>I ty hildenbrandt am chaining my hopes and dreams and

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<v Speaker 1>big twelve picks no too. Offensive coordinator and probable play

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<v Speaker 1>caller Tim Beck. Oh, I'm just and I know. I

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<v Speaker 1>know our pal herb Hand is the co offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and we'll have a big hand in that offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I said hand twice. But I watched the Texas Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>and I've watched previous Tim Beck teams and godspeed ty yacndios.

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<v Speaker 2>Beck Meyer syndrome. Yeah, damn, thanks for throwing the cold

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<v Speaker 2>water on the Texas pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I want a more complete picture and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to keep playing songs. But Deshaun Elliott does

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<v Speaker 1>have bad blood, sort of speaking about a rumor that

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<v Speaker 1>Texas coaches were bad mouthing him and other players for

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<v Speaker 1>leaving early. Of course, Toshaun Elliott recruited by Charlie Strong

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.159
<v Speaker 1>and that staff. So I think Texas is in a

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<v Speaker 1>very good place, especially when they made that shift defensively.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to be They're gonna be fine. I think

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<v Speaker 2>all around a very solid team. You know what you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting with Texas. I feel very confident that with all

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<v Speaker 2>they have coming back, they're going to be just fine.

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<v Speaker 2>And at this point in again late July, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>more confident about those pieces coming back, just on both

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<v Speaker 2>sides of the football. Then I do a team like TCU,

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<v Speaker 2>which TCU, to their credit, the defense should be good.

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<v Speaker 2>I have many questions about the quarterback position and just

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<v Speaker 2>more questions on that side of the argument. So I

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<v Speaker 2>will take the Longhorns as my number two team in

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<v Speaker 2>the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair, I disagree with you about Texas and running the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see somebody that impresses me. And to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where I'm excited about Texas on the ground. I

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<v Speaker 1>know they got the cal transfer Trey Watson, but how

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<v Speaker 1>often did we talk about Trey Watson last all the

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<v Speaker 1>time every show? This is a Trey Watson dedicated show.

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<v Speaker 1>And hope he's great, Hope he's fun, Hope it makes

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<v Speaker 1>Texas offense more dynamic. Hope he takes the ball and

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<v Speaker 1>whoever else in the backfield takes the ball out of

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback's hands so that these quarterbacks aren't counted on

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<v Speaker 1>to rush at twenty times a game. But yeah, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got some interesting receivers. I like Colin Johnson. I really

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<v Speaker 1>like litle Jordan Humphrey. He's pretty versatile. They move him

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<v Speaker 1>around the field a good amount. But yeah, the line

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<v Speaker 1>should be pretty good. I don't think it's particularly deep.

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<v Speaker 1>They have the Rice transfer taking over at left tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am excited to watch this defense. This will

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the faster, if not the fastest defense

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<v Speaker 1>in the conference, just because of how well they've recruited

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<v Speaker 1>at defensive back and they get five or six of

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:13.160
<v Speaker 1>them on the field at the same time. The big

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<v Speaker 1>name to know, the big new name anyway to know

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<v Speaker 1>this year is Caden Sterns, so I think is going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the rotation. Five star coming in and

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<v Speaker 1>familiar names Chris Boyd and PJ. Locker back. So I

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<v Speaker 1>anticipate this Texas defense being one of, if not the

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<v Speaker 1>best defense in the conference. But I just cannot align

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<v Speaker 1>myself with Tim Beck in the way that you have.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, that's fine, that's fine. I think the ground game

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<v Speaker 2>is better.

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not going to go quite to my Texas

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 2>is still Texas level of admiration. But I feel pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good about where this team is headed under Tom Herman.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems reasonable. You want to go through their schedule

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems pretty good at the like that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>said at Merril home against Tulsa, home against USC tough

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<v Speaker 2>game home against TCU at k State, the neutral Cider

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<v Speaker 2>Red River shootout against Oklahoma, Baylor at home at Oklahoma State,

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<v Speaker 2>West Virginia at home at Texas Tech, Iowa State at home,

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<v Speaker 2>and then closing out the year with the Kansas Buffer.

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<v Speaker 1>It appears the farthest they go, maybe by geography is

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<v Speaker 1>wrong in the Big twelve because they miss going to

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa State and going to West Virginia. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>long road trips. They have the Maryland one that I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's in Landover, it's not in College Park. But

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<v Speaker 1>still they should be better. But we said that last year,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, I think they'll be fine. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're an eight and fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Dan, Before we go on to our next team, here.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to remind folks that you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>still summertime, and if you are thinking about saving money

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<v Speaker 2>this summer, why not start by paying less interest on

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<v Speaker 2>your credit card balances?

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<v Speaker 1>SAME's reasonable.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't you refinance with a credit card consolidation loan

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Boom, I still miss Michael Dixon. Yes, did you

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>see him? No, he's really good. He's super good. He

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>penns teams inside the ten. Yeah, he was.

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I believe, according to our friend Bill Connolly worth an

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 2>extra first down per drive or something crazy.

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll take it. I'll take it.

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Really really good, and we'll hurt to lose him. Let's

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 2>go to TCU, shall we. Let's okay? TCU ten and

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 2>two a year ago. Because we are framing all of

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 2>this out in the con text of why we care

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 2>about each team, why we care about each conference. M

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I care about TCU because TCU has the best defense

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 2>in the Big twelve, And as I said with the

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Texas Capsule, I view having a defense in the Big

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Twelve as a competitive advantage because again, the conference isn't

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 2>generally known for it's defense. You have one, it helps

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot. They do lose five starters from a year ago.

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 2>But defense is sort of Gary Patterson's thing. Now, I'm

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna qualify that a little bit just by saying that it.

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Hasn't always been his thing.

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Like the last couple of years, defenses have fallen short

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 2>of expectations at TCU, But generally he's a good coach,

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>he knows defense. I think this is going to be

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 2>the best defense in the Big Twelve. Do you feel

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:48.919
<v Speaker 2>the same.

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think defense is one thousand percent his thing.

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any doubt about that. Yeah, there's

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>there have been times where TCU's defense hasn't been phenomenal,

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>but by and large, in a conference that is year

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 1>in and year out, so fun and so potent offensively

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and spreading teams out and playing with tempo and having

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:15.919
<v Speaker 1>Gary Patterson recruits and put so many talented players on

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>defense and to cycle so many of them in year

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>over year and get the results that he's gotten, threatening

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>to win you know, ten plus games totally most years. Yeah,

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I still think even if he doesn't meet the expectations

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>of his best recent defenses, they should have an incredible defense.

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I think I agree, and so much of that is,

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, offense is about rhythm, and I think defense

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>is in large part like if you have decent coaching

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>about effort and just caring and having you know, a

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>decent too deep everywhere to mitigate any injuries. And Gary

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Patterson and his defensive staff every year seem to get

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>these players to care and to play with with enthusiasm,

0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's huge. Yeah.

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And that, by the way, is going to test

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State in week three. That games a neutral cider

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>in Arlington. It's going to test Texas in Austin on

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>week four. We will find out very quickly how good

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 2>this defense is, at least out of the shoot. With

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 2>that being said, knowing that there are some heavy hitters

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 2>on that early schedule, my question about TCU is on offense.

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 2>All I can say right now is that I like

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 2>some of the parts. I don't know about the hole,

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 2>And a big part of why I don't know about

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>the hole is because of Seawan Robinson. He's their sophomore quarterback.

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I will be saying a prayer before each show this

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 2>fall so that I don't call him a Shawn Robinson.

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well he is a Shawn Robinson. He is. But

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that's just you know me and how.

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought you were going to say a prayer for

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>qb aggies, but well, of course we always do. But

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying I'm worried, you know me, that is

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 2>something that I might end up doing. I may just

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 2>go full a Sean Robinson by the end of the year.

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless, I like what TCU has coming back on

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the whole. I think they're the third best team in

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>the conference, a close third behind Texas. And you're not

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 2>going to believe this, but TCU was one of the

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 2>two teams I bet on good.

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good bet.

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Twenty eighteen, it's been a crazy year for all of us.

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I personally have been trying to focus on what's important

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>to me, and TCU just means too much to me.

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>So we're back together right now. TCU is over under

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>a seven and a half wins. There are five games

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 2>in the schedule that I look at and I think

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>are potential losses, the Ohio State and Texas games that

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>we talked about. They play Oklahoma, They're on the road

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 2>at West Virginia and Oklahoma State. I will eat my

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 2>solid verbal dad hat. If Gary Patterson goes zero to

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.239
<v Speaker 2>five in those games. All the other ones I think

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 2>are winnable, which is why I bet the over. So

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm back together with TCU. I'm all in and maybe

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 2>not second best team in the conference, but they're still

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>going to be pretty darn good.

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I love the schedule, and I say that knowing Ohio

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>State is neutral, but it's coming to Jerry World, right,

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>That's where they're playing. That's right, And I have no

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>memories of Ohio State succeeding in Jerry World. Hold on,

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>just give me a take, am innute. No, they don't

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>leave the state. They have somebody early on I think Southern,

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and then they go across town essentially to play SMU.

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>And going to Austin is not all that difficult. I'm

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>not talking about traveling. I'm the experience of playing at

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Daryl K. Royal is not an intimidating palace.

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>It actually may be tougher to navigate Austin traffic than

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 2>to play in the state.

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>And hope they don't get crushed by a crane, because

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>that is basically in downtown Auston is a town of

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>cranes here. I always like when I see pretty easy

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>teams as road trips, and that's what I see on

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>this schedule. I see at Baylor and I see at Kansas.

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>They finish with Oklahoma State at home a week after Baylor.

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a good time to get them. They go to

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia a week after Kansas State. That's going to

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>be tricky, but that's fine. They go to Kansas. They

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>have Oklahoma and Texas Tech and Iowa State all at home. Scheduleized,

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 1>this is great. I could not see them going anywhere

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>less than eight and four this season. I am big

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>on Sean Robinson, even with a kind of green line

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>in front of him. I can't believe Cavante Turpin is

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>still in college kill Somehow in college I felt the same,

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>why care about TCU? Cavante Turpin is immortal, That's why

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you care about That's why you care about the horn Frogs.

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>If you watch their bowl game last year against Stanford,

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you were introduced to Jalen Rager. It was as if

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>he just walked up to America and said, oh, hey,

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm so I'm jail and this is sort of what

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm about. And he caught like a thousand yards worth

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>in that game against a pretty good Standford team. So

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I like Jalen Reger a lot. I like Darius Anderson

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>was fun to watch for multiple stretches last year. Defensively,

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>zero questions even without I think it's Tahata who was

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>their best corner list Miguel tea Hata. Yes, Miguel Tahta

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>was moonlighting for TCU. I like this team a lot.

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I think the there experienced enough and deep enough, and

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, very quietly recruited well enough that it is

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.959
<v Speaker 1>difficult for me to see them finishing any lower than

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>third in the Big twelve. And I think I have

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>them second. I agree.

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I agree, we're pretty gung ho ONDCU in twenty eighteen.

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Give me the frogs.

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 2>All right, where are we going to go next? Then

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 2>let's go to Oklahoma State? Okay, because I think they're

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.959
<v Speaker 2>fun and interesting. What say you about Oklahoma State? They

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 2>went nine and three a year ago. You would have

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to assume, because it's a my Gundy team, that offense

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 2>is going to be fine. There's a new defensive coordinator.

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 2>The back half of the schedule looks difficult. How are

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 2>you feeling about the Cowboys?

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a tricky schedule for Oklahoma State for sure.

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I like the higher at defensive coordinator in Jim Knowles

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>from Dukes or Blitz a lot. He is going to

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>do that. I like that element. They're going to give

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>up big plays like Duke did last year, but he

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 1>dramatically improved Duke's defense without having nearly the talent that

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma State has. I don't. I think they're pretty experienced

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>in terms of who they bring back from last year,

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>so I would like to say that they're going to

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>improve and become like a top forty five, not forty

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>seven times wholla, a top forty five defense, even in

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve. It appears Taylor Cornelius is going to

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>be the starting quarterback, or at least he is going

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>into and will be during fall camp. We'll see if

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the Hawaii grad transfer Drew Brown emerges at all. But

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I love them at receiver. I think Justice Hill took

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a step a little bit backwards last year. He wasn't

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>as efficient if you look at some of Bill Connolly's

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>S and P numbers and is his efficiency metrics on

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the ground. But I do love those receivers. The line

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>should be pretty good, and I just like the continuity

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:26.840
<v Speaker 1>on offense with Yrsick coming back. I am. I am

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a fan of this team. I'm a fan of the

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 1>depth of this team. And yes, even though the back

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>half of that they you know, they end going to

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Norman and then host West Virginia and go to Fort

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Worth for TCU, which is a pretty difficult one two

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>three to finish things out. I am. I think by

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>that time Taylor Cornelius will have developed into something at

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>least pretty good. And they're right in that. I mean,

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>if we're saying the Big Twelve is also pretty joke free.

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, Oklahoma State could finish anywhere between eight and

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>ten wins. To me, Wow, And it's always nice when

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you have Baylor and Kansas at the bottom. Yeah, because

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the wind totals are a little padded, even though they

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>are kind of joky right now. Well, Kansas is in perpetuity,

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>but I it's hard not to see a bunch of seven,

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>eight nine win teams on that second tier in the

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Big Twelve. Yeah.

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 2>Well, look, I like Justice Hill. I'm curious to see

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 2>if he's going to be more of a focal point.

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 2>This year had fifteen hundred yards sixteen total touchdowns a

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 2>year ago.

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:35.839
<v Speaker 1>New quarterback, to what.

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 2>End will they lean on him until Yukon Cornelis, how

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 2>dare you forget the name? Gets his stuff together. He

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>is a mountain of a man by the way, six six,

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.800
<v Speaker 2>two thirty two. He's only got twenty four career passes,

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.399
<v Speaker 2>so we're gonna have to wait and see how much

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 2>he could fill the void after Masa Rudolph walks away

0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:00.080
<v Speaker 2>as one of the all time grades in Stillwater. But

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Mike Gundy, he's a good coach. He knows his way

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 2>around the quarterback position. He said just last week that

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Cornelius was going to be quote our guy for this

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 2>coming season, so he is clearly very confident in the

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 2>direction of the quarterback spot. The back half the schedule

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 2>is rough. I'll say it again. Texas at Baylor, which haha,

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>at Oklahoma West Virginia at TCU. There's a lot of

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:29.359
<v Speaker 2>heavy hitters there within a very very short period of time.

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless, I tend to agree with you that Oklahoma

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 2>State has a lot of promise. It does feel like

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 2>the same team every year, though, doesn't it?

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh does? And we did neglect something that is actually consequential.

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>They have Boise State, Yo. That's right in Stillwater. But

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 1>nonetheless they have Boise State. Yeah, okay, and this Boise.

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Defense is going to be fast and angry. Best group

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:55.760
<v Speaker 2>of five teams Boise State.

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>It is, it appears to be the best group of

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 1>five team they return. I mean, it's Brett Ripens, what

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>fourth year starting? I don't I'm not fully versed on

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Boise the way I will be when we eventually talked

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Mountain West Mountain. But I seem to recall like their

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:14.399
<v Speaker 1>front being intact, their secondary being intact, and they're they're good.

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:17.720
<v Speaker 1>That is not a sort of rollover by any stretch

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>non conference game. And I may even be edging towards

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Boise at this point.

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Whoa, Okay, yeah, yeah, I could see that, Dan, I

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 2>really could. Let's go to West Virginia. Okay, West Virginia

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 2>seven and five a year ago. I care about West

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Virginia because among the long list of teams that I

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 2>took into the lab, west Virginia's over seven wins seemed

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 2>like a no brainer to me.

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't wait to bet against that.

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I threw some US American currency on that one. Wow,

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 2>seven wins?

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Is that a joke? Seven wins.

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 2>If you told me that West Virginia was going to

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 2>be eight to o headed into November, I'd say that's

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>totally believable, really totally believable.

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 2>If you told me that they were eight and four

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:11.399
<v Speaker 2>after November, I'd say that's also very believable. Okay, because

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't get really tough until the very end.

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 1>But hap it out for me.

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I am infatuated with the Greer Sills combo at quarterback

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 2>and wide receiver. The line is good. Running back, We'll

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>just have to wait and see. But this could be

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Kennedy McCoy.

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 1>He's good. Yeah, I know, but I just we're gonna

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:32.399
<v Speaker 1>have to wait and see.

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 2>At their running back position. I'm not totally convinced yet.

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna have one of the better offenses in the

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Big twelve. This is gonna be a high powered offense,

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 2>if only because they've got the pieces in place and

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>they got a coach who knows how to coach offense. True,

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 2>the defense is pretty good upfront, questionable in the back.

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 2>I think they improved from a year ago. I do

0:39:55.880 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 2>kneel at the altar of David Long and Dravan Askew Henry. Okay,

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll just get that out here. It did sway my

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 2>bet a little bit. All that being said, though, if

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 2>they make it through maybe the first three weeks of

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 2>the year, which I should not just pan, I'm feeling

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 2>eight and four, nine and three and over seventy mesh.

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm pretty high on West Virginia this year. We've

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>talked about a little bit before, but I just agree.

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>You don't like you don't like the defense at all,

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 1>do you. I don't like this defense all that much.

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the front that much. I think the

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 1>secondary is at least interesting. But I believe a lot

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:36.399
<v Speaker 1>of these big twelve teams should be able to run

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:40.280
<v Speaker 1>some on this West Virginia defense and controlling the clock,

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 1>keeping the offense off the field a bit. I love

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Will Greer. I'm not ashamed to say it out loud

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 1>on this show here and right now. I love Will Greer.

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I love his options at receiver, and I don't you

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>don't have your soundboard, right, I don't know love his

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>left tackle Yatney Cajust. If that's how you pronounced it.

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:02.720
<v Speaker 1>It's a dude. That would have been my top pick.

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 1>But when you have September, they have what Tennessee, which

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not terribly worried about with West Virginia, but Tennessee

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and Charlotte, they go to n Z State, which should

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 1>be one of the better quarterback matchups of the season,

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>and finishing the way that they do with what it's

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>at Texas TCU at Oklahoma State Oklahoma. And you mentioned

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that you mentioned that November a long November. To was

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 1>that the Counting Crows doing long December? Oh? Yeah, I

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>think so. I believe. Yeah, it's gonna be a long November,

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>all those kids getting my and appreciating my Counting Crows references.

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>October is fine, but I see them losing at least

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple two teams in weird ways in the first

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, in September and October, and I don't know,

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>three or four out of those November games. I think

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>it's just going to be raw when you don't have

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the depth, when you don't have just the immediate skill

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>on defense. Happy to be wrong, happy for West Virginia

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to be in the national spotlight with one of the

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>better quarterbacks and receiving corps in the country. But if

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>we are going to parse out what our concerns are

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and how dramatic they are. The West Virginia defense is

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.439
<v Speaker 1>not bowling me over.

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 2>So this is one where you and I really do disagree.

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty high, you're pretty low on the mountain years

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:28.400
<v Speaker 2>West Virginia.

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I think West Virginia should be appointment television. Oh totally.

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be one of the better TV shows

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 2>in college football. Yes, one hundred percent, and that stands

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 2>for something. Yeah, all right, let's go to Iowa State, Dan,

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 2>speaking of fun TV shows. Iowa State had a great

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 2>year last season. It was an odyssey to go along

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.240
<v Speaker 2>with Matt Campbell and that Cyclones team seven to five

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>regular season. I seem to remember very vividly us having

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 2>a conversation at one point, maybe three quarters of the

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>way through the year, or somebody on Reddit or somebody

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:09.280
<v Speaker 2>on you know, one sports site figuring the solid verbal

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Subreddit by the way, yes last solid verbal. Come on,

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:14.359
<v Speaker 2>get out there and do that. But somebody out there

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 2>on the interwebs put together the formula for Iowa State

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.479
<v Speaker 2>winning the Big twelve last year. Okay, and at least

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 2>for a fleeting moment, it was it was a possibility.

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 2>I care about Iowa State this year because they're they're

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:29.319
<v Speaker 2>gritty as freaking hell.

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh e g.

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know what, those teams are fun to

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.359
<v Speaker 2>want to see. Yeah, it's a good TV show. They

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 2>play hard for Matt Campbell. They're like, I was trying

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>to think, how would I compare this Iowa States the

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 2>older guy in the rec league who is just there

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 2>to collect rebounds. That's all just all.

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Holts and screens, call out shots. Sure, I'm with that,

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.240
<v Speaker 1>all heart, all heart.

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 2>The quarterback position also makes them sort of interesting, hopefully

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 2>not as interesting as last year for their sake. The

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 2>last time that the same quarterback played a full year

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 2>for Iowa State was the year we started this podcast

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and eight.

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh damn. They have not had world it was.

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, any stability at the quarterback position, you will remember

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 2>last year they had Jacob Park for the first four games.

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Then Joel Lanning, their other quarterback, moved to linebacker.

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Kyle's awesome, Yeah, incredible at lineback. He was very good.

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Kemp comes in beats Oklahoma in his first ever start,

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 2>then he gets hurt and they go to Zeb Nolan

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:36.760
<v Speaker 2>for a brief run. Eventually, Kyle Kemp heals up gets

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 2>the job back, throws for like a sixty six percent

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 2>completion percentage, fifteen touchdowns, only three interceptions, and now, somehow,

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 2>some way, against all odds, Dan he is back for

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 2>his sixth season as a college truble. Literally his sixth year.

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 2>He petitioned the NCAA and got it. And on top

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 2>of that, there's even some depth behind him this year.

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.280
<v Speaker 2>So things are shaken out, okay at the quarterback spot,

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 2>and that's a big part of the reason why I

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.839
<v Speaker 2>think Iowa State can continue some of its momentum from

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:06.359
<v Speaker 2>a year ago.

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.359
<v Speaker 1>If I were do you know what an exploding offer is? Ty,

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>of course, if I were to offer you right now

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>here on this show, and you had to give me

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 1>an answer to the next ten seconds, so the offer

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.240
<v Speaker 1>is off the table if I offered you. As of today,

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Matt Campbell is Notre Dame's coach. Are you taking it? Seven?

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Six? Okay? Wow? Wow? I love that. I really

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 1>like Matt Campbell. I liked watching Iowa State last year.

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I have serious concerns about their offense if their defense

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 1>is not turning teams over at the rate that they did.

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>If you remember that TCU game was quite ugly because

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Iowa State was so adept at turning the frogs over.

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 1>It was was a final score fourteen ten, fourteen seven

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 1>something like that. They did a masterful job. They held

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody down pretty much, including Oklahoma in that win. But

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not buying Iowa State because of this offense. I

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>don't love David Montgomery. Feels like somebody who survived being

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>locked in a pantry for like a month. Wow, how

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 1>did Iowa States offense survive for so long? Like rice cakes?

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:20.320
<v Speaker 1>You know? That kept him alive. David Montgomery wasn't glory,

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:24.359
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't beauty, but he just he was. He got

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:27.799
<v Speaker 1>to give the ball to somebody. David Montgomery was that

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 1>rice cake.

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 2>So you're saying that twelve hundred yards last year essentially

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 2>fell off the back of the truck for Sir David Montgomery.

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was. It was not a particularly efficient or

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:41.879
<v Speaker 1>explosive twelve hundred yards, but he stayed alive. He kept

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 1>that team alive with rice cakes. And there's something to

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 1>be said about that. All right, Defensively, I mean you

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't mention the most important I mean, I can pull

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:53.720
<v Speaker 1>up the boys to men once again. But Duke of Hazard,

0:46:54.280 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Alan Lazard, Yeah, Gahazar a Czarre Gonzo, huge web and

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 1>love when a team has that one enormous weapon and

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 1>defense is still can't stop him, like Alan Wizard was

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>for the Clones last year. I think defensively, they return

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>enough to be fine. Uh. The schedule is such that

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you know it's they're they're not going to sneak up

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 1>on anyone in the way that they did last year.

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>They have Alasico Week two in Iowa City and from

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 1>there it's it's tricky at Oklahoma State, at TCU, at

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Texas later on in the season. The good thing is

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:32.839
<v Speaker 1>it's spaced out nicely, so I could see Iowa State

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 1>is going to go to a bowl game once again.

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 1>That is that is like a lock of the preseason

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to agree, I do. By the way, did you know

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:40.879
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing to think about.

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Did you notice during the World Cup all the tweets

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 2>we got about the Belgian national aiden Haizard.

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it was nice. I like that. He's good player, right,

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:52.279
<v Speaker 1>he's a good.

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Uh great dribbler. I well, I agree they're going to

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 2>a bowl. They may or may not pull an upset

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 2>along the way. At a minimum, they're gonna put some

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 2>better team to the test because they're so freaking gritty.

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Good for sure, good TV show. Let's go to Texas

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Tech and he's recruiting super well too. This isn't smoking mirrors, No, no, absolutely,

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 2>he's attracting talent rightfully. So let's go to Texas Tech

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:21.479
<v Speaker 2>six and six a year ago. Dan, I I don't care,

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:24.399
<v Speaker 2>to be honest, you don't care about Texas Tech.

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't. Oh, I don't.

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Every year of Texas Tech football is like the seventh

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 2>season of twenty four.

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Were you a twenty four fan? You watched a show

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 1>early on exactly, so you're a Texas Tech hipster. You're

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 1>a Graham Harrel Texas Tech fan. You don't like this

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>third wave Red Raider. Well, we just know what's gonna

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>happen every year. We know what's gonna happen. The offense.

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Will they be great, Yes, they'll be great. Will the

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:57.760
<v Speaker 2>defense suck? Yes, the defense is gonna suck. Will Cliff

0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Kingsbury win six games where the bands on the sidelines

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:04.799
<v Speaker 2>and then be part of a debate at some point

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 2>in November about whether he should be fired? Yes, Clik

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Kingsbury will be part of all that that's it's a

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 2>he's thirty and thirty three, thirty and thirty three, Yes,

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 2>in six years in Lubbock.

0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:22.680
<v Speaker 1>That's how the season is gonna go, right right? Sure? Uh?

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Did you like Seinfeld? Tie? Of course, there's something fun

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 1>about watching Seinfeld reruns. You know it's gonna happen, but

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you know George is gonna freak out a little bit,

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Crammer's meal, little Kookie, Elaine's gonna misread a boyfriend's situation.

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>It's still Seinfeld. There's still something fun about watching a

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:44.360
<v Speaker 1>rerun and Texas Tackle find a quarterback will wing the

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 1>ball around a bunch. I think their defense is going

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 1>to improve again. I think they led the big twelve

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and takeaways last year under David Gibbs, who I think

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>is one of the great underrated defensive coordinators with listen

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 1>what he was handed when he arrived, and to get

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to respectability being passable in more ways than one, that's great,

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and Texas Tech will be If we're gonna consider other

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>teams good TV, Texas Tech's gonna be good TV.

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, Texas Tech brings back ten guys on defense. So

0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:19.839
<v Speaker 2>there is to your point, there is a pretty good

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 2>chance that This is going to be their best defense

0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 2>in a long time. Sure, but Texas Tech's best defense

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 2>in a long time is still a relative statement. It

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 2>could still be bad and their best.

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:36.759
<v Speaker 1>They open in tricky fashion. They have Ole Miss I

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Believe in Houston, and then they host Houston. A couple

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 1>of weeks later, they go to Oklahoma State and they

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 1>host West Virginia and then there's I think a bye

0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 1>week before they go to TCU. So it gets real,

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 1>real quick for the Red Raiders. They're probably gonna start

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 1>McLean Carter, who played at quarterback, who played some in

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 1>relief last year but didn't look wonderful. The other name,

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how good or bad he is. I

0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:04.839
<v Speaker 1>won't pretend like I do, is jet Duffy or it's

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:08.439
<v Speaker 1>good name duff Jetty. I don't you know who's to say.

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 1>If he wins the job, I'm probably gonna call him

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 1>duff Jetty. I apologize. I'm terrible at this, I know,

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:17.320
<v Speaker 1>but it's just something that appeals to my dumb brain.

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 1>You should care about Texas Tech because they're consistent in

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:25.160
<v Speaker 1>what they do, okay, and I like that there are

0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 1>there to me if their defense is top sixty eight,

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:35.160
<v Speaker 1>which is roughly like you know, upper average whatever. Then

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:40.040
<v Speaker 1>they become the wild card that we love about every conference,

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 1>whether it was pit from a couple of years ago,

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>whether it was old Texas Tech, whether it was Utah

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:48.360
<v Speaker 1>in the PAC twelve, or Oregon State way back in

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the mid two thousands. There's something about adding that, like

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 1>a little droplet into a into a stew that changes

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:59.279
<v Speaker 1>the complexity. Tie. That's all I. That's all I I'm

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:04.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna do. Defend six and six, six and six, Okay,

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Cliff's job. I don't know. They love them. Yeah, I

0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:13.879
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't blame them for keeping them. But it's the same

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:17.879
<v Speaker 1>thing every years. Every year, it's the same story. Yeah,

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I think they might go five and seven, but I

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 1>think they're going to be super entertaining when they do.

0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 1>So let's go to k State.

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:27.320
<v Speaker 2>K State seven and five a year ago, Dan another

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:32.840
<v Speaker 2>year back with Bill Snyder, indeed Bill Snyder, the timeless

0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 2>coach for the Kansas State Wildcats. They've got eight returning

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:44.399
<v Speaker 2>starters on offense, and that terrifies me, to be honest,

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.719
<v Speaker 2>It's never been the most electric offense. They really like

0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 2>to play that ball control style. There's nothing really truly

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 2>sexy about it.

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 1>But they're very you are talking about it's never been

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>electric as if I don't remember the name Darren Sprowl,

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:04.000
<v Speaker 1>remember robson a little tank was something else.

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:09.040
<v Speaker 2>But this is just not an electric offense in the

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 2>way that a Texas Tech or Oklahoma State offenses. But

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 2>they practice their ball control very effectively, and they will

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 2>beat teams.

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:18.720
<v Speaker 1>They will beat teams.

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 2>They get Texas at home a week after Texas goes

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:24.959
<v Speaker 2>to TCU, which on the surface looks like a very,

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 2>very fun TV show to watch. Here in the Big Twelve,

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I undershoot every year on K State.

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Where do you stand?

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I think they have two pretty capable quarterbacks, neither of

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:44.040
<v Speaker 1>whom is overwhelming in what Skyler Thompson and Alex Delton.

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I think Thompson's the better thrower, Delton's a better runner.

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably getting that mixed up. I liked Alex Barnes.

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.240
<v Speaker 1>The last time we saw Alex Barnes, he was jogging

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:55.920
<v Speaker 1>through the UCLA defense in their bowl game. I say

0:53:55.920 --> 0:54:00.359
<v Speaker 1>that in a joking manner, but I specifically remember him

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:03.120
<v Speaker 1>just running straight through the line of scrimmage and be like, oh,

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:07.040
<v Speaker 1>nobody's here. Huh okay, dok so. I like that element.

0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I like Dalton shown the offensive line has experienced, the

0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:13.120
<v Speaker 1>defense is pretty new. I don't like that Byron Pringle

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 1>is gone. I thought he added an element when I

0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:18.440
<v Speaker 1>think they won their last what four or five or

0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:20.719
<v Speaker 1>five of six or something like that, and the big

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:22.839
<v Speaker 1>thing was they were opening up that offense. They were

0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:26.239
<v Speaker 1>throwing down field. They were hanging with the supposed more

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:28.919
<v Speaker 1>electric offense. They put up forty five in a win

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 1>at Oklahoma State in Stillwater. They were like last year,

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 1>they were the team that they were a great litmus test,

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>like how good really is Iowa State? We know they

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 1>beat Oklahoma, they get edged out by Kansas State, And

0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:46.120
<v Speaker 1>how good is West Virginia. Oh, they're pretty decent. They're

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:50.320
<v Speaker 1>pretty decent. They can beat Kansas State. They dropped forty

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 1>something against Texas Tech in an overtime win. I think

0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>they're good. I think they are not going to threaten

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:01.439
<v Speaker 1>ten wins. And I could see them going seven and five,

0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:05.279
<v Speaker 1>eight and four, Yeah, totally, totally. I don't they have

0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Joe moorehead in his second game with Mississippi State in Manhattan.

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:12.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, UTSA could be tricky. They lose a couple

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of really big guys from last year, they have a

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 1>long road trip to West Virginia. But other than that, like,

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:20.399
<v Speaker 1>it's not bad. They go two aims to finish out

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the season. I know they have Oklahoma and TCU in

0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 1>consecutive weeks. That's tough, that's not great, and I think

0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna drop at least one of those. They'll probably

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:32.479
<v Speaker 1>drop both of those games. But to say that they're

0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 1>going to lose more than five games would be insane.

0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:39.239
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I'm with you. Seven and five, eight

0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:41.959
<v Speaker 2>and four feels right to me. Yeah, all right, let's

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:42.359
<v Speaker 2>go to.

0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:45.120
<v Speaker 1>And you might be asking to yourself, are our picks

0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:48.719
<v Speaker 1>mathematically possible? Note with our win totals? No, And to you,

0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I will say every day Ty has been texting me

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 1>we are rock solid, air tight with our mathematics.

0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 2>We will have someone email about that. Yeah, all right,

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:04.360
<v Speaker 2>two final participants here in the Big twelve. Yes, Baylor

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:07.720
<v Speaker 2>went one and eleven a year ago. You might remember

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 2>that they signed Matt Rule to a seven year deal

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:16.360
<v Speaker 2>with Baylor before last season. After the season, he promptly

0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:19.279
<v Speaker 2>interviewed with the Colts. He didn't take the job, Dan,

0:56:20.080 --> 0:56:22.320
<v Speaker 2>But I just wanted to get that on the record

0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:25.080
<v Speaker 2>because if that's not the most college football story ever,

0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what is.

0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine the headspace of matt Rule getting this

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:34.799
<v Speaker 1>like crazy long guaranteed contract and after a year he

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, I gotta move to Indiana. I gotta find

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:38.400
<v Speaker 1>my way to Indiana.

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:41.600
<v Speaker 2>If he would have bolted given all the strife at

0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Baylor on a seven year contract one year into his tenure,

0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 2>we would have had a new Mattie Ice in the NFL.

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I I would have, and he would have. He will

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:56.919
<v Speaker 1>probably in the next two years, end up somewhere else.

0:56:57.600 --> 0:57:00.359
<v Speaker 1>And it's hard for me to blame anybody for leaving

0:57:00.400 --> 0:57:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the Baylor situation. I just I can't find a good reason.

0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I understand that he is recruiting, in convincing kids to

0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:10.879
<v Speaker 1>come to Waco blah blah blah, But given the circumstances there,

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:15.080
<v Speaker 1>given the rebuilding job that's needed. You know, Bill O'Brien

0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 1>gave Penn State a couple more couple of years and

0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:20.280
<v Speaker 1>that at least was they were almost in better shape.

0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:23.240
<v Speaker 1>It's easier to recruit I think given what the you know,

0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Penn State's history. It's a it's hard to blame that

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:32.960
<v Speaker 1>rule for leaving Baylor behind. Here's the thing, Baylor's your

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:35.760
<v Speaker 1>favorite effort team, right, I love it. I love Baylor.

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Love their effort. You Baylor is like an eleven year

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 1>old who tried to dunk from the free throw line

0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and tripped and didn't get anywhere near there. And you're saying, listen,

0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I get it, that was a one and eleven attempt,

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:51.520
<v Speaker 1>but there was some effort there. They played, they were

0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 1>they were better than one and eleven last year. Okay,

0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:57.640
<v Speaker 1>most teams in the country, thank you.

0:57:57.920 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 2>They played really hard. They have seven teen starters back.

0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I think they take a jump forward. The defense is

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:07.160
<v Speaker 2>going to be better. Charlie Brewer completed sixty eight percent

0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:09.200
<v Speaker 2>of his passes last year as a fresh right spot.

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:12.600
<v Speaker 2>He's got his entire wide receiving core back. Baylor's not

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.200
<v Speaker 2>going to make a Bowl, they're not going to challenge

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:18.240
<v Speaker 2>for the Big Twelve, but they will be better and

0:58:18.280 --> 0:58:19.600
<v Speaker 2>they will be more interesting.

0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:23.200
<v Speaker 1>So Jalen Hurt becomes a receiver at Baylor, right, I

0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that actually means anything. They have a

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:30.520
<v Speaker 1>really good nose tackle named Ira, which I'm on board. Great. Sure.

0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:34.600
<v Speaker 1>And the interesting thing too, is because Baylor's defense was

0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:39.280
<v Speaker 1>just the bismal last year. Phil Snow, who is kind

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 1>of the Jim Cheney of like defensive consultancy, has just

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 1>been everywhere. But he had huge success at Temple turning

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that defense in from like a joke into a top

0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:52.920
<v Speaker 1>fifteen defense, you know, and developed NFL draft picks over

0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the years. And this is year two with a lot

0:58:56.080 --> 0:58:59.600
<v Speaker 1>of experience, not necessarily upfront, but you know, people are

0:58:59.760 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be more familiar with what he is asking

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:05.160
<v Speaker 1>of them and his play calling. You know, you saw those.

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 1>This is we're talking about Temple largely shutting down everybody,

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 1>including Notre Dame, which was probably like one of your

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 1>least favorite nights ever. Yeah, when so, I imagine Phil

0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Snow will have this defense going from atrocious to below average.

0:59:23.160 --> 0:59:26.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's if you are a football nerd pretty good.

0:59:26.800 --> 0:59:29.480
<v Speaker 1>If you are a Baylor fan, Phil Snow probably won't

0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 1>be there in a couple of years. I mean, he's

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 1>an older dude anyway, and he may just follow Matt

0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Rule too. I don't wherever Matt Rule ends up the

0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals or the Chiefs or wherever he is in twenty

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:44.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty one. But they could start for and out. They

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 1>could Abilene Christian at ut San Antonio, Duke and Kansas

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 1>to open the season. Yeah, that's not bad, all right, effort.

0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Finally, let's go to another one and eleven team, the

0:59:56.560 --> 1:00:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Big twelve. That would be the Kansas Jayhawks. Dan, is

1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:02.880
<v Speaker 2>this the year for David Batty?

1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean the year he gets fired? Fired? I don't

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:11.840
<v Speaker 1>know what is there like an over under date we

1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:16.440
<v Speaker 1>can wager American dollars. Man listen, Kansas is not going

1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:21.160
<v Speaker 1>to be very good. No, they played Rutgers on September fifteenth. Oh,

1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's amazing that they have Rutgers and Baylor in

1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:31.960
<v Speaker 1>consecutive weeks. So Kansas opening with Nickel State at a

1:00:32.080 --> 1:00:35.680
<v Speaker 1>disappointing Central Michigan team, Rutgers and Baylor. If you want

1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:40.240
<v Speaker 1>to talk about Fluke records to start the year. And

1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I like Kansas's running back Khalil Herbert. He went off.

1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I think he went off against West Virginia last year.

1:00:47.000 --> 1:00:50.240
<v Speaker 1>The defensive front should be pretty good. I think the

1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:55.840
<v Speaker 1>secondary is trash, but the front should be serviceable. If

1:00:55.880 --> 1:01:00.600
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a race to they won two last year,

1:01:00.640 --> 1:01:06.680
<v Speaker 1>but three FBS wins. I'm saying, hell, yeah, and that's it.

1:01:06.760 --> 1:01:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Kansas going three and nine.

1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm googling talking to your kids about a three Kansas,

1:01:13.440 --> 1:01:16.160
<v Speaker 2>oh four win Kansas, A four and oh Kansas.

1:01:16.400 --> 1:01:21.600
<v Speaker 1>So after Baylor, Kansas's best shot to get to four

1:01:21.640 --> 1:01:24.880
<v Speaker 1>wins is probably Iowa State on November three at home.

1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:28.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, fair enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that does it for the Big Twelve again, we're

1:01:32.200 --> 1:01:36.640
<v Speaker 2>both going to Oklahoma. Some dispute over a few teams

1:01:36.640 --> 1:01:39.400
<v Speaker 2>in here next tier, Yeah, a few teams in here.

1:01:39.520 --> 1:01:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess the most polarizing would be West Virginia, But otherwise,

1:01:44.200 --> 1:01:46.600
<v Speaker 2>general agreement about the direction of the Big Twelve conference

1:01:46.640 --> 1:01:47.960
<v Speaker 2>should be a really fun year.

1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Wide open on.

1:01:49.440 --> 1:01:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Some level, whether you think it's for the top spot

1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:54.480
<v Speaker 2>of the second spot, but a lot of interesting TV

1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:55.960
<v Speaker 2>show is going to take place this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that goes with that same. Yeah, I think

1:01:59.160 --> 1:02:01.240
<v Speaker 1>that's right. We have a second part to this show.

1:02:01.360 --> 1:02:04.280
<v Speaker 1>If you've downloaded, you already know what that second part is.

1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Tye breaks down his favorite and least favorite girlfriends. Right

1:02:09.320 --> 1:02:11.320
<v Speaker 1>that was You have a power ranking prepared?

1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:15.880
<v Speaker 1>That is right? Yeah, We're going to talk about independence,

1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:17.760
<v Speaker 1>which of which there are like one and a half

1:02:17.800 --> 1:02:22.360
<v Speaker 1>interesting ones. But I see Ty. I thought about doing

1:02:22.400 --> 1:02:29.080
<v Speaker 1>it the serious XM voice, but I'm sorry my true

1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:33.439
<v Speaker 1>identity the serious XM host. But I wanted I want

1:02:33.440 --> 1:02:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to be more selective about what I do in introducing

1:02:36.800 --> 1:02:39.520
<v Speaker 1>things and going over things in a different way. And

1:02:39.840 --> 1:02:45.520
<v Speaker 1>since we are getting into independent teams and now, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for the Notre Dame Radio Houra, brought to

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<v Speaker 1>you by Duncan's Extra Nicotine Cigarettes. What all the boys

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<v Speaker 1>are smoking these days? And he has your host, Ty

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<v Speaker 1>hilden Brands. Hey, what do you say, Ty? How are

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<v Speaker 1>the fellas looking? Are they gonna give the pretty boys

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<v Speaker 1>from Southern cal Or run for the money? Wham bam slam,

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<v Speaker 1>come home, go Irish. Are you done yet? Yeah? I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>You do a very convincing like nineteen twenties voice. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, Notre Dame, my beloved fighting Irish. It went

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<v Speaker 2>nine to three a year ago, they did. I put

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of thought into my Notre Dame preview this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I jotted down my notes at four point thirty in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning and I couldn't sleep because we were in

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<v Speaker 2>the process of preparing for this show, and I knew

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame was on the docket. It woke me up early.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to get up. I had to capture my thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>There is objectively a lot to like about this Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame football team this season. By Mike cow we got

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen started back from a year ago, nine of which

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<v Speaker 2>a're on defense. If you listen to this show the

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<v Speaker 2>Regular Dan, you'll know we've been talking about the defense

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<v Speaker 2>since sometime in June. Clark Lee, the new defensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 2>was one of my pivotal people.

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<v Speaker 1>For the twenty eighteen season.

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<v Speaker 2>They're very good at linebacker with Tevon Coney, really good

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<v Speaker 2>in the secondary with guys like Julian Love. Feel really

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<v Speaker 2>good about where they're going to come in with the

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<v Speaker 2>back half of that defense. Two things that normally don't

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<v Speaker 2>go together. Is Notre Dame in a good secondary, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think they have it again. So it hurts to

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<v Speaker 2>lose Mike Elko and all that, but the defense is

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<v Speaker 2>still going to be really good for sure. Most of

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<v Speaker 2>my questions are going to be on offense. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>see that one coming, Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess I did. Tie. Yeah, I'm right there

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<v Speaker 1>with you.

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<v Speaker 2>The offense loses Josh Adams to the NFL. They lose

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<v Speaker 2>Dion McIntosh got booted from the team, so there are

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<v Speaker 2>questions at running back. They lose Equinimia Saint Brown who

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<v Speaker 2>left early, and Kevin Stefferson.

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<v Speaker 1>He also got booted off the team back in January.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we talked a lot about eq last

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<v Speaker 2>year and I was a big, tall, freak of an

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<v Speaker 2>athlete and all that, but Stepherson was actually their most

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<v Speaker 2>consistent deep threat and he led the team in receiving touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on top of all that, Quentin Nelson and

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<v Speaker 2>Mike mcglinchy, two high profile offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>They go in the top ten of the NFL draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame's recruited really well along the line. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be fine. But that's that's a lot to lose, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean they've developed really well along the line,

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<v Speaker 1>but they lose Where did their offensive line coach end

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<v Speaker 1>up seeing the NFL? Yeah, so different guy there. Schedules Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we're recording this late July, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>something we do every year. We say Notre Dame schedules

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<v Speaker 1>is not too bad. And we get to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, you're like, wow, that was that was rough.

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<v Speaker 1>But in looking at it in late July, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep that up because yes, Michigan should be tough,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's in South Bend. Yes, the the one to

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<v Speaker 1>two going to and Diego to play Navy and then

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<v Speaker 1>going to Northwestern and then Florida State, that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty top going to USC But for whatever reason, it

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't stack the way previous years schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the kind of schedule you build for

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<v Speaker 2>yourself back in the old days of like NCAA fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, it's a good year to travel to

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia Tech. Granted it's after it's a bodyblow game after Stanford,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't love the Stanford defense.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to have that A minus schedule so you

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<v Speaker 2>can be a good tender, but you want to space

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<v Speaker 2>it out so the tough games aren't all back to back.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Tillery is a member of the Immortal Cavante Turpens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I believe Jerry Tillery was on this defensive line

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<v Speaker 1>when we started this show in two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Tillery is the name I've heard for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time and I am, Yeah, he's back. I really like

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Tranquil. Yeah, he's in like sort of a hybrid role.

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<v Speaker 1>Will drop into coverage lot at from the linebacker position

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<v Speaker 1>and take on a bunch of different types of pass catchers.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll get after the quarterback. I think he is a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of prototypical versatile defensive player for twenty eighteen. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's great. And because of this defense, even with

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<v Speaker 1>the new defensive coordinator, even with on offense cycling in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple new offensive linemen to take over for two great,

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<v Speaker 1>great Notre Dame players, it's hard to see them losing

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<v Speaker 1>more than four games. Oh my god. Yeah there, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say four losses, eight wins, four losses, eight wins,

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<v Speaker 1>four and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>There isn't a team on the schedule that you look

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<v Speaker 2>at at first, blush and say that's a definite loss.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you know, I feel pretty good about Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>All the pieces are here, and I still think it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a potent offense. But I have questions

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<v Speaker 2>about running back, wide receiver, offensive line. The biggest one,

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<v Speaker 2>and I haven't mentioned me yet, is Brandon Wimbush. He

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<v Speaker 2>is truly the X factor I have ripped on Wimbush

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<v Speaker 2>since Week three of last year, So today I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to try and strike more.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a hopeful tone. Dan Okay, he's a dynamic runner.

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<v Speaker 2>If he can become a more reliable and more confident passer,

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame could be a good tender.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows, Brandon won much scares defenses more than anybody

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<v Speaker 1>else in that room. Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, it seems like he is entrenched as a

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<v Speaker 2>starting quarterback. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly has a quick hook in that Michigan game, depending

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<v Speaker 2>on how things go. I don't know how entrenched he

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<v Speaker 2>is at the quarterback spot. We saw what happened down

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<v Speaker 2>the stretch last year. Kelly went to Ian book more

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<v Speaker 2>than once, so I got real questions about where this

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<v Speaker 2>is all headed. I think a lot of it falls

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<v Speaker 2>on the shoulders Wimbush. I do agree with you, though.

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<v Speaker 2>I think eight and four is probably the floor, and

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<v Speaker 2>there is a lot of room to grow in that schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>If I were a Notre Dame fan, yes, If I

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<v Speaker 1>were a Notre Dame fan, I'd be a little disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida State weren't earlier in this schedule. Yes, that's fair,

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<v Speaker 1>and this would have been a very good year for

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<v Speaker 1>USC to come to South Bend with inexperienced quarterback. But

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<v Speaker 1>even with Sam Darnold, USC did nothing at South Bend

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<v Speaker 1>last year, so I would assume feel pretty good about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't come after a big emotional game elsewhere, that

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<v Speaker 1>USC game on the road, So it shapes up pretty

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<v Speaker 1>well for Notre Dame totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, eight and fours. The floor defense is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be rock solid. Offense really has to prove itself. There

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be a lot of new name Dexter Williams,

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<v Speaker 2>can Tony Jones fill the void a running back. Just

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of questions for me about who the contributors

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be around Brandon Wimbush.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they have a good tight end this year? Is

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<v Speaker 1>mac Alis mack is back? Yeah? Okay, that's good. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean traditionally they've had good tight end play to bail

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<v Speaker 1>them out of third and eights, and that seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it would be helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>I look, the offense was really good in spots last

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<v Speaker 2>year two, but what ended up happening against teams with

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<v Speaker 2>better defense is they figured out Brandon Wimbush and that

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't throw, or that he wasn't confident throwing from

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<v Speaker 2>the pocket. They need to add another dimension to that

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<v Speaker 2>offense this year, and whether it's Wimbush or Book or

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<v Speaker 2>Phil Jerkovic the last four games of the year, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. They have to find some way to add

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more spice to keep teams and some

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<v Speaker 2>of these defenses off balance.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say, the reason to care about Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not caring that much about this anymore. Pause.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone cares about Notre Dame. You care because you hate him,

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<v Speaker 2>You care because you love them. We don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>tell people why they should or shouldn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>The football reasons to care is there will be a

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<v Speaker 1>very good defense taking on probably let's see Karan Higg then,

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<v Speaker 1>top fifteen running back in the country, Bryce Love probably

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<v Speaker 1>the best running back in the country. Cam Aker is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most talented running backs in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>USC has a bunch of offensive skill talents, so you

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<v Speaker 1>will see the sort of hat on hat if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a football nerd, there is something fun about this defense

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<v Speaker 1>going against some of the country's best on offense.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, very quickly, because we promised, let's cycle through

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<v Speaker 2>the independence here rip through real quick. Army UMass and BYU.

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<v Speaker 1>Army is pretty good, which is good because we like

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<v Speaker 1>watching Army Navy and they beat Navy and they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a mod Bradshaw, which is kind of a bummer.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't get a year of eligibility. But Army is

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<v Speaker 1>still going to be good and their defense should be

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<v Speaker 1>better because they weren't that good last year, so that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Army Navy will be fun and they play Lafayette. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what's not to care about with Army. Then UASS has

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<v Speaker 1>been tricky. They return their quarterback. They gave us scare

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<v Speaker 1>to both Mississippi State and Tennessee last year, and they

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<v Speaker 1>host USF and stay relatively close to home to take

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<v Speaker 1>on Boston College. So keep those anten I up. BYU

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<v Speaker 1>decided not to hire a former quarterback with no college

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<v Speaker 1>coaching experience as offensive coordinator. Sorry, and so they have

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<v Speaker 1>a better one unpresumably and maybe they'll go better than

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<v Speaker 1>four to nine and get to a bowl game. But

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<v Speaker 1>their schedule is not great. They go to Wisconsin, to Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>to Boise State and two Utah. Good luck with all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, and very quickly, did you know New Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>State's defensive coordinator was Frank Spaziani. I didn't, no, really,

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<v Speaker 1>and their schedule is pretty good and they should, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a good story. Go to a bowl again, So

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<v Speaker 1>go Aggie's. And if you really deep into FBS independence,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the Liberty Flames are debuting as an

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<v Speaker 1>FBS independent team, and you should care about Liberty because

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever asked yourself, where's Turner Gill? The answer

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<v Speaker 1>is Liberty. Where's where's Ian macaw? The awful former Baylor

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<v Speaker 1>ad He's at Liberty? So go team playing Liberty? O. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, yes, and I will say this Ty.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about Independence. We talked about the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you are a fan of I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina State or Washington or Penn State or Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you care about the Big Twelve? I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about this. We talk about it the Big Twelve

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<v Speaker 1>as a TV show and I don't go to mall's

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<v Speaker 1>all that oftentie, But if college football were a mall,

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Twelve is Brookstone, Brookstone. Do you know Brookstone?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. You don't know Brookstone. I don't know Brookstone. Brookstone.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably have an equivalent. Brookstone is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>stores that sells a lot of what you'll see in

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<v Speaker 1>like one of those airplane magazines, Like they sell like

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff you don't think you need, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, a massager in my shirt collar, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's some of it is sort of luxurious and

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<v Speaker 1>they're just things are just a little bit like a

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<v Speaker 1>vertical CD player, like, oh, I didn't I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I need that, But that's kind of fun that that exists. Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're still selling Mike stoops defense. That's weird, but there

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<v Speaker 1>is something kind of luxurious and fun and you got

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<v Speaker 1>to take a look. And that, to me is what

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<v Speaker 1>Brookstone is. Okay, and the Big twelve and the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to get to a Brookstone, ty you'd love it.

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<v Speaker 2>For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, stay solid, peace,