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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal, boys and girls, my

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Speaker 2: name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always my good

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Speaker 2: as well as the podcast. So here's the deal, Dan,

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Speaker 1: Can we do the top two teams of the Big twelve? Whoever?

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Speaker 2: So let's start where we always start, Big twelve. I

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. My initial read was that it's wide open,

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Speaker 2: Where do you want to start here in the Big Twelve?

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: Okay, where the wind comes sweeping through the planes. Eleven

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Speaker 1: Can I be a wet blanket? Please? You might not.

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Speaker 1: Got no reason to go out there and chance it. Right.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback situations in college football tend to go awry, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the offense is gonna be dynamic. They're gonna win

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is true.

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Speaker 2: They've got a team with more experience for me year ago,

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Speaker 1: Here are their true road games. They go to Maryland, which.

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Speaker 2: I think that bodes really well for Texas. And then offensively,

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Speaker 2: I like Sam Ellinger. I think he's the dude. I

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Speaker 2: think the running game gets better. It's just it's been

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Speaker 1: Ty, I was gonna wait. You stole a little bit

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Speaker 1: But I don't know how you begin rattling off Texas

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Speaker 1: the single most important departure football, the single most impactful departure. Wow, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut ahead. You'll be mine forever, baby, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Michael Dixon's gone. And what I'm hearing from you is

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Speaker 1: I said hand twice. But I watched the Texas Bowl

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Speaker 1: I just I want a more complete picture and I'm

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Speaker 2: They're going to be They're gonna be fine. I think

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Speaker 2: And at this point in again late July, I feel

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Speaker 2: I have many questions about the quarterback position and just

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Speaker 1: And hope he's great, Hope he's fun, Hope it makes

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Speaker 2: Sorry, that's fine, that's fine. I think the ground game

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Speaker 1: I am.

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Speaker 2: I am not going to go quite to my Texas

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Speaker 1: real quick, real quick.

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Speaker 2: It seems pretty good at the like that's what I

435
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Speaker 2: said at Merril home against Tulsa, home against USC tough

436
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: game home against TCU at k State, the neutral Cider

437
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: Red River shootout against Oklahoma, Baylor at home at Oklahoma State,

438
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: West Virginia at home at Texas Tech, Iowa State at home,

439
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Speaker 2: and then closing out the year with the Kansas Buffer.

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Speaker 1: It appears the farthest they go, maybe by geography is

441
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Speaker 1: wrong in the Big twelve because they miss going to

442
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Speaker 1: Iowa State and going to West Virginia. They don't have

443
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Speaker 1: long road trips. They have the Maryland one that I

444
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: think it's in Landover, it's not in College Park. But

445
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Speaker 1: still they should be better. But we said that last year,

446
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Speaker 1: so you know, I think they'll be fine. I think

447
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Speaker 1: they're an eight and fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Dan Boom, I still miss Michael Dixon. Yes, did you

480
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Speaker 1: see him? No, he's really good. He's super good. He

481
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: penns teams inside the ten. Yeah, he was.

482
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Speaker 2: I believe, according to our friend Bill Connolly worth an

483
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Speaker 2: extra first down per drive or something crazy.

484
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take it.

485
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: Really really good, and we'll hurt to lose him. Let's

486
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Speaker 2: go to TCU, shall we. Let's okay? TCU ten and

487
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 2: two a year ago. Because we are framing all of

488
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Speaker 2: this out in the con text of why we care

489
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: about each team, why we care about each conference. M

490
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: I care about TCU because TCU has the best defense

491
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve, And as I said with the

492
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Speaker 2: Texas Capsule, I view having a defense in the Big

493
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: Twelve as a competitive advantage because again, the conference isn't

494
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: generally known for it's defense. You have one, it helps

495
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: a lot. They do lose five starters from a year ago.

496
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Speaker 2: But defense is sort of Gary Patterson's thing. Now, I'm

497
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Speaker 2: gonna qualify that a little bit just by saying that it.

498
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Speaker 1: Hasn't always been his thing.

499
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Speaker 2: Like the last couple of years, defenses have fallen short

500
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: of expectations at TCU, But generally he's a good coach,

501
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: he knows defense. I think this is going to be

502
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: the best defense in the Big Twelve. Do you feel

503
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 2: the same.

504
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Speaker 1: Well, I think defense is one thousand percent his thing.

505
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt about that. Yeah, there's

506
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: there have been times where TCU's defense hasn't been phenomenal,

507
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: but by and large, in a conference that is year

508
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: in and year out, so fun and so potent offensively

509
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: and spreading teams out and playing with tempo and having

510
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: Gary Patterson recruits and put so many talented players on

511
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: defense and to cycle so many of them in year

512
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: over year and get the results that he's gotten, threatening

513
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: to win you know, ten plus games totally most years. Yeah,

514
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: I still think even if he doesn't meet the expectations

515
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: of his best recent defenses, they should have an incredible defense.

516
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: I think I agree, and so much of that is,

517
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, offense is about rhythm, and I think defense

518
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: is in large part like if you have decent coaching

519
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: about effort and just caring and having you know, a

520
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: decent too deep everywhere to mitigate any injuries. And Gary

521
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: Patterson and his defensive staff every year seem to get

522
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: these players to care and to play with with enthusiasm,

523
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's huge. Yeah.

524
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And that, by the way, is going to test

525
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: Ohio State in week three. That games a neutral cider

526
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: in Arlington. It's going to test Texas in Austin on

527
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: week four. We will find out very quickly how good

528
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: this defense is, at least out of the shoot. With

529
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Speaker 2: that being said, knowing that there are some heavy hitters

530
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: on that early schedule, my question about TCU is on offense.

531
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Speaker 2: All I can say right now is that I like

532
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Speaker 2: some of the parts. I don't know about the hole,

533
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Speaker 2: And a big part of why I don't know about

534
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: the hole is because of Seawan Robinson. He's their sophomore quarterback.

535
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: I will be saying a prayer before each show this

536
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: fall so that I don't call him a Shawn Robinson.

537
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: Okay, well he is a Shawn Robinson. He is. But

538
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: that's just you know me and how.

539
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say a prayer for

540
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: qb aggies, but well, of course we always do. But

541
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm worried, you know me, that is

542
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: something that I might end up doing. I may just

543
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: go full a Sean Robinson by the end of the year.

544
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I like what TCU has coming back on

545
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: the whole. I think they're the third best team in

546
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Speaker 2: the conference, a close third behind Texas. And you're not

547
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Speaker 2: going to believe this, but TCU was one of the

548
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: two teams I bet on good.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good bet.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen, it's been a crazy year for all of us.

551
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: I personally have been trying to focus on what's important

552
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: to me, and TCU just means too much to me.

553
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: So we're back together right now. TCU is over under

554
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: a seven and a half wins. There are five games

555
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: in the schedule that I look at and I think

556
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: are potential losses, the Ohio State and Texas games that

557
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: we talked about. They play Oklahoma, They're on the road

558
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: at West Virginia and Oklahoma State. I will eat my

559
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: solid verbal dad hat. If Gary Patterson goes zero to

560
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 2: five in those games. All the other ones I think

561
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: are winnable, which is why I bet the over. So

562
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: I'm back together with TCU. I'm all in and maybe

563
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: not second best team in the conference, but they're still

564
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: going to be pretty darn good.

565
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Speaker 1: I love the schedule, and I say that knowing Ohio

566
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: State is neutral, but it's coming to Jerry World, right,

567
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: That's where they're playing. That's right, And I have no

568
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: memories of Ohio State succeeding in Jerry World. Hold on,

569
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: just give me a take, am innute. No, they don't

570
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: leave the state. They have somebody early on I think Southern,

571
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: and then they go across town essentially to play SMU.

572
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: And going to Austin is not all that difficult. I'm

573
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: not talking about traveling. I'm the experience of playing at

574
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: Daryl K. Royal is not an intimidating palace.

575
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: It actually may be tougher to navigate Austin traffic than

576
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: to play in the state.

577
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: And hope they don't get crushed by a crane, because

578
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: that is basically in downtown Auston is a town of

579
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: cranes here. I always like when I see pretty easy

580
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: teams as road trips, and that's what I see on

581
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: this schedule. I see at Baylor and I see at Kansas.

582
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: They finish with Oklahoma State at home a week after Baylor.

583
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: It's a good time to get them. They go to

584
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: West Virginia a week after Kansas State. That's going to

585
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: be tricky, but that's fine. They go to Kansas. They

586
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: have Oklahoma and Texas Tech and Iowa State all at home. Scheduleized,

587
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: this is great. I could not see them going anywhere

588
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: less than eight and four this season. I am big

589
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: on Sean Robinson, even with a kind of green line

590
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: in front of him. I can't believe Cavante Turpin is

591
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: still in college kill Somehow in college I felt the same,

592
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: why care about TCU? Cavante Turpin is immortal, That's why

593
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: you care about That's why you care about the horn Frogs.

594
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: If you watch their bowl game last year against Stanford,

595
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: you were introduced to Jalen Rager. It was as if

596
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: he just walked up to America and said, oh, hey,

597
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm jail and this is sort of what

598
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm about. And he caught like a thousand yards worth

599
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: in that game against a pretty good Standford team. So

600
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: I like Jalen Reger a lot. I like Darius Anderson

601
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: was fun to watch for multiple stretches last year. Defensively,

602
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: zero questions even without I think it's Tahata who was

603
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: their best corner list Miguel tea Hata. Yes, Miguel Tahta

604
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: was moonlighting for TCU. I like this team a lot.

605
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: I think the there experienced enough and deep enough, and

606
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, very quietly recruited well enough that it is

607
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 1: difficult for me to see them finishing any lower than

608
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: third in the Big twelve. And I think I have

609
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: them second. I agree.

610
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: I agree, we're pretty gung ho ONDCU in twenty eighteen.

611
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: Give me the frogs.

612
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: All right, where are we going to go next? Then

613
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: let's go to Oklahoma State? Okay, because I think they're

614
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 2: fun and interesting. What say you about Oklahoma State? They

615
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: went nine and three a year ago. You would have

616
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: to assume, because it's a my Gundy team, that offense

617
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: is going to be fine. There's a new defensive coordinator.

618
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: The back half of the schedule looks difficult. How are

619
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: you feeling about the Cowboys?

620
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tricky schedule for Oklahoma State for sure.

621
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: I like the higher at defensive coordinator in Jim Knowles

622
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: from Dukes or Blitz a lot. He is going to

623
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: do that. I like that element. They're going to give

624
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: up big plays like Duke did last year, but he

625
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: dramatically improved Duke's defense without having nearly the talent that

626
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State has. I don't. I think they're pretty experienced

627
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: in terms of who they bring back from last year,

628
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: so I would like to say that they're going to

629
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: improve and become like a top forty five, not forty

630
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: seven times wholla, a top forty five defense, even in

631
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. It appears Taylor Cornelius is going to

632
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback, or at least he is going

633
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: into and will be during fall camp. We'll see if

634
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: the Hawaii grad transfer Drew Brown emerges at all. But

635
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: I love them at receiver. I think Justice Hill took

636
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: a step a little bit backwards last year. He wasn't

637
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: as efficient if you look at some of Bill Connolly's

638
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: S and P numbers and is his efficiency metrics on

639
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: the ground. But I do love those receivers. The line

640
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: should be pretty good, and I just like the continuity

641
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: on offense with Yrsick coming back. I am. I am

642
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: a fan of this team. I'm a fan of the

643
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: depth of this team. And yes, even though the back

644
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: half of that they you know, they end going to

645
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: Norman and then host West Virginia and go to Fort

646
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: Worth for TCU, which is a pretty difficult one two

647
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: three to finish things out. I am. I think by

648
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: that time Taylor Cornelius will have developed into something at

649
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: least pretty good. And they're right in that. I mean,

650
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: if we're saying the Big Twelve is also pretty joke free.

651
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: You know, Oklahoma State could finish anywhere between eight and

652
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: ten wins. To me, Wow, And it's always nice when

653
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: you have Baylor and Kansas at the bottom. Yeah, because

654
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: the wind totals are a little padded, even though they

655
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: are kind of joky right now. Well, Kansas is in perpetuity,

656
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: but I it's hard not to see a bunch of seven,

657
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: eight nine win teams on that second tier in the

658
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: Big Twelve. Yeah.

659
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 2: Well, look, I like Justice Hill. I'm curious to see

660
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: if he's going to be more of a focal point.

661
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: This year had fifteen hundred yards sixteen total touchdowns a

662
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: year ago.

663
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: New quarterback, to what.

664
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: End will they lean on him until Yukon Cornelis, how

665
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: dare you forget the name? Gets his stuff together. He

666
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: is a mountain of a man by the way, six six,

667
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: two thirty two. He's only got twenty four career passes,

668
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: so we're gonna have to wait and see how much

669
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: he could fill the void after Masa Rudolph walks away

670
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 2: as one of the all time grades in Stillwater. But

671
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: Mike Gundy, he's a good coach. He knows his way

672
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: around the quarterback position. He said just last week that

673
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: Cornelius was going to be quote our guy for this

674
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: coming season, so he is clearly very confident in the

675
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: direction of the quarterback spot. The back half the schedule

676
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: is rough. I'll say it again. Texas at Baylor, which haha,

677
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma West Virginia at TCU. There's a lot of

678
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: heavy hitters there within a very very short period of time.

679
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I tend to agree with you that Oklahoma

680
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: State has a lot of promise. It does feel like

681
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: the same team every year, though, doesn't it?

682
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: Oh does? And we did neglect something that is actually consequential.

683
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: They have Boise State, Yo. That's right in Stillwater. But

684
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: nonetheless they have Boise State. Yeah, okay, and this Boise.

685
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: Defense is going to be fast and angry. Best group

686
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 2: of five teams Boise State.

687
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: It is, it appears to be the best group of

688
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: five team they return. I mean, it's Brett Ripens, what

689
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: fourth year starting? I don't I'm not fully versed on

690
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: Boise the way I will be when we eventually talked

691
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: Mountain West Mountain. But I seem to recall like their

692
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: front being intact, their secondary being intact, and they're they're good.

693
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: That is not a sort of rollover by any stretch

694
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: non conference game. And I may even be edging towards

695
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: Boise at this point.

696
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: Whoa, Okay, yeah, yeah, I could see that, Dan, I

697
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: really could. Let's go to West Virginia. Okay, West Virginia

698
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: seven and five a year ago. I care about West

699
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: Virginia because among the long list of teams that I

700
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: took into the lab, west Virginia's over seven wins seemed

701
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: like a no brainer to me.

702
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait to bet against that.

703
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: I threw some US American currency on that one. Wow,

704
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: seven wins?

705
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: Is that a joke? Seven wins.

706
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: If you told me that West Virginia was going to

707
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: be eight to o headed into November, I'd say that's

708
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: totally believable, really totally believable.

709
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: Okay.

710
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: If you told me that they were eight and four

711
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 2: after November, I'd say that's also very believable. Okay, because

712
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: it doesn't get really tough until the very end.

713
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: But hap it out for me.

714
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: I am infatuated with the Greer Sills combo at quarterback

715
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: and wide receiver. The line is good. Running back, We'll

716
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: just have to wait and see. But this could be

717
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: Kennedy McCoy.

718
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: He's good. Yeah, I know, but I just we're gonna

719
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: have to wait and see.

720
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: At their running back position. I'm not totally convinced yet.

721
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: They're gonna have one of the better offenses in the

722
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: Big twelve. This is gonna be a high powered offense,

723
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: if only because they've got the pieces in place and

724
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: they got a coach who knows how to coach offense. True,

725
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: the defense is pretty good upfront, questionable in the back.

726
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: I think they improved from a year ago. I do

727
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: kneel at the altar of David Long and Dravan Askew Henry. Okay,

728
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: I'll just get that out here. It did sway my

729
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: bet a little bit. All that being said, though, if

730
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: they make it through maybe the first three weeks of

731
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: the year, which I should not just pan, I'm feeling

732
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: eight and four, nine and three and over seventy mesh.

733
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty high on West Virginia this year. We've

734
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit before, but I just agree.

735
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: You don't like you don't like the defense at all,

736
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: do you. I don't like this defense all that much.

737
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: I don't like the front that much. I think the

738
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: secondary is at least interesting. But I believe a lot

739
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: of these big twelve teams should be able to run

740
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: some on this West Virginia defense and controlling the clock,

741
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: keeping the offense off the field a bit. I love

742
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: Will Greer. I'm not ashamed to say it out loud

743
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: on this show here and right now. I love Will Greer.

744
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: I love his options at receiver, and I don't you

745
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: don't have your soundboard, right, I don't know love his

746
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: left tackle Yatney Cajust. If that's how you pronounced it.

747
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: It's a dude. That would have been my top pick.

748
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: But when you have September, they have what Tennessee, which

749
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: I'm not terribly worried about with West Virginia, but Tennessee

750
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: and Charlotte, they go to n Z State, which should

751
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: be one of the better quarterback matchups of the season,

752
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: and finishing the way that they do with what it's

753
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: at Texas TCU at Oklahoma State Oklahoma. And you mentioned

754
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: that you mentioned that November a long November. To was

755
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: that the Counting Crows doing long December? Oh? Yeah, I

756
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: think so. I believe. Yeah, it's gonna be a long November,

757
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: all those kids getting my and appreciating my Counting Crows references.

758
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: October is fine, but I see them losing at least

759
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: a couple two teams in weird ways in the first

760
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, in September and October, and I don't know,

761
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: three or four out of those November games. I think

762
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: it's just going to be raw when you don't have

763
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: the depth, when you don't have just the immediate skill

764
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: on defense. Happy to be wrong, happy for West Virginia

765
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: to be in the national spotlight with one of the

766
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: better quarterbacks and receiving corps in the country. But if

767
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: we are going to parse out what our concerns are

768
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: and how dramatic they are. The West Virginia defense is

769
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: not bowling me over.

770
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: So this is one where you and I really do disagree.

771
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm pretty high, you're pretty low on the mountain years

772
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: West Virginia.

773
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: I think West Virginia should be appointment television. Oh totally.

774
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: It's going to be one of the better TV shows

775
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: in college football. Yes, one hundred percent, and that stands

776
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: for something. Yeah, all right, let's go to Iowa State, Dan,

777
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: speaking of fun TV shows. Iowa State had a great

778
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: year last season. It was an odyssey to go along

779
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: with Matt Campbell and that Cyclones team seven to five

780
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: regular season. I seem to remember very vividly us having

781
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: a conversation at one point, maybe three quarters of the

782
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: way through the year, or somebody on Reddit or somebody

783
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 2: on you know, one sports site figuring the solid verbal

784
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: Subreddit by the way, yes last solid verbal. Come on,

785
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 2: get out there and do that. But somebody out there

786
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: on the interwebs put together the formula for Iowa State

787
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 2: winning the Big twelve last year. Okay, and at least

788
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: for a fleeting moment, it was it was a possibility.

789
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: I care about Iowa State this year because they're they're

790
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: gritty as freaking hell.

791
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: Oh e g.

792
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, those teams are fun to

793
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: want to see. Yeah, it's a good TV show. They

794
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: play hard for Matt Campbell. They're like, I was trying

795
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: to think, how would I compare this Iowa States the

796
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: older guy in the rec league who is just there

797
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: to collect rebounds. That's all just all.

798
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: Holts and screens, call out shots. Sure, I'm with that,

799
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: all heart, all heart.

800
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: The quarterback position also makes them sort of interesting, hopefully

801
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: not as interesting as last year for their sake. The

802
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: last time that the same quarterback played a full year

803
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: for Iowa State was the year we started this podcast

804
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight.

805
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: Oh damn. They have not had world it was.

806
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, any stability at the quarterback position, you will remember

807
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: last year they had Jacob Park for the first four games.

808
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: Then Joel Lanning, their other quarterback, moved to linebacker.

809
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: Kyle's awesome, Yeah, incredible at lineback. He was very good.

810
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: Kyle Kemp comes in beats Oklahoma in his first ever start,

811
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: then he gets hurt and they go to Zeb Nolan

812
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 2: for a brief run. Eventually, Kyle Kemp heals up gets

813
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: the job back, throws for like a sixty six percent

814
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: completion percentage, fifteen touchdowns, only three interceptions, and now, somehow,

815
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: some way, against all odds, Dan he is back for

816
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: his sixth season as a college truble. Literally his sixth year.

817
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: He petitioned the NCAA and got it. And on top

818
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: of that, there's even some depth behind him this year.

819
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 2: So things are shaken out, okay at the quarterback spot,

820
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: and that's a big part of the reason why I

821
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 2: think Iowa State can continue some of its momentum from

822
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: a year ago.

823
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: If I were do you know what an exploding offer is? Ty,

824
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: of course, if I were to offer you right now

825
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: here on this show, and you had to give me

826
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: an answer to the next ten seconds, so the offer

827
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: is off the table if I offered you. As of today,

828
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell is Notre Dame's coach. Are you taking it? Seven?

829
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: Yes?

830
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: Yes? Six? Okay? Wow? Wow? I love that. I really

831
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: like Matt Campbell. I liked watching Iowa State last year.

832
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: I have serious concerns about their offense if their defense

833
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: is not turning teams over at the rate that they did.

834
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: If you remember that TCU game was quite ugly because

835
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: Iowa State was so adept at turning the frogs over.

836
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: It was was a final score fourteen ten, fourteen seven

837
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: something like that. They did a masterful job. They held

838
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: everybody down pretty much, including Oklahoma in that win. But

839
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm not buying Iowa State because of this offense. I

840
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: don't love David Montgomery. Feels like somebody who survived being

841
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: locked in a pantry for like a month. Wow, how

842
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: did Iowa States offense survive for so long? Like rice cakes?

843
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: You know? That kept him alive. David Montgomery wasn't glory,

844
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: he wasn't beauty, but he just he was. He got

845
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: to give the ball to somebody. David Montgomery was that

846
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: rice cake.

847
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: So you're saying that twelve hundred yards last year essentially

848
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: fell off the back of the truck for Sir David Montgomery.

849
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was not a particularly efficient or

850
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: explosive twelve hundred yards, but he stayed alive. He kept

851
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: that team alive with rice cakes. And there's something to

852
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: be said about that. All right, Defensively, I mean you

853
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: didn't mention the most important I mean, I can pull

854
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 1: up the boys to men once again. But Duke of Hazard,

855
00:46:54,280 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard, Yeah, Gahazar a Czarre Gonzo, huge web and

856
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: love when a team has that one enormous weapon and

857
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: defense is still can't stop him, like Alan Wizard was

858
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: for the Clones last year. I think defensively, they return

859
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: enough to be fine. Uh. The schedule is such that

860
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: you know it's they're they're not going to sneak up

861
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: on anyone in the way that they did last year.

862
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: They have Alasico Week two in Iowa City and from

863
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: there it's it's tricky at Oklahoma State, at TCU, at

864
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: Texas later on in the season. The good thing is

865
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: it's spaced out nicely, so I could see Iowa State

866
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: is going to go to a bowl game once again.

867
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: That is that is like a lock of the preseason

868
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: to agree, I do. By the way, did you know

869
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: that's amazing to think about.

870
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: Did you notice during the World Cup all the tweets

871
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: we got about the Belgian national aiden Haizard.

872
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was nice. I like that. He's good player, right,

873
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: he's a good.

874
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: Uh great dribbler. I well, I agree they're going to

875
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: a bowl. They may or may not pull an upset

876
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: along the way. At a minimum, they're gonna put some

877
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: better team to the test because they're so freaking gritty.

878
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: Good for sure, good TV show. Let's go to Texas

879
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: Tech and he's recruiting super well too. This isn't smoking mirrors, No, no, absolutely,

880
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: he's attracting talent rightfully. So let's go to Texas Tech

881
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 2: six and six a year ago. Dan, I I don't care,

882
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 2: to be honest, you don't care about Texas Tech.

883
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: No, I don't. Oh, I don't.

884
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: Every year of Texas Tech football is like the seventh

885
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: season of twenty four.

886
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: Were you a twenty four fan? You watched a show

887
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: early on exactly, so you're a Texas Tech hipster. You're

888
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: a Graham Harrel Texas Tech fan. You don't like this

889
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: third wave Red Raider. Well, we just know what's gonna

890
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: happen every year. We know what's gonna happen. The offense.

891
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: Will they be great, Yes, they'll be great. Will the

892
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: defense suck? Yes, the defense is gonna suck. Will Cliff

893
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: Kingsbury win six games where the bands on the sidelines

894
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: and then be part of a debate at some point

895
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: in November about whether he should be fired? Yes, Clik

896
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 2: Kingsbury will be part of all that that's it's a

897
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: he's thirty and thirty three, thirty and thirty three, Yes,

898
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: in six years in Lubbock.

899
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: That's how the season is gonna go, right right? Sure? Uh?

900
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: Did you like Seinfeld? Tie? Of course, there's something fun

901
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: about watching Seinfeld reruns. You know it's gonna happen, but

902
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: you know George is gonna freak out a little bit,

903
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: Crammer's meal, little Kookie, Elaine's gonna misread a boyfriend's situation.

904
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: It's still Seinfeld. There's still something fun about watching a

905
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: rerun and Texas Tackle find a quarterback will wing the

906
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: ball around a bunch. I think their defense is going

907
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: to improve again. I think they led the big twelve

908
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: and takeaways last year under David Gibbs, who I think

909
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: is one of the great underrated defensive coordinators with listen

910
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: what he was handed when he arrived, and to get

911
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: to respectability being passable in more ways than one, that's great,

912
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: and Texas Tech will be If we're gonna consider other

913
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: teams good TV, Texas Tech's gonna be good TV.

914
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: Well, Texas Tech brings back ten guys on defense. So

915
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: there is to your point, there is a pretty good

916
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: chance that This is going to be their best defense

917
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: in a long time. Sure, but Texas Tech's best defense

918
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: in a long time is still a relative statement. It

919
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: could still be bad and their best.

920
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: They open in tricky fashion. They have Ole Miss I

921
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: Believe in Houston, and then they host Houston. A couple

922
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: of weeks later, they go to Oklahoma State and they

923
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: host West Virginia and then there's I think a bye

924
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: week before they go to TCU. So it gets real,

925
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: real quick for the Red Raiders. They're probably gonna start

926
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: McLean Carter, who played at quarterback, who played some in

927
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: relief last year but didn't look wonderful. The other name,

928
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how good or bad he is. I

929
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: won't pretend like I do, is jet Duffy or it's

930
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 1: good name duff Jetty. I don't you know who's to say.

931
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: If he wins the job, I'm probably gonna call him

932
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: duff Jetty. I apologize. I'm terrible at this, I know,

933
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: but it's just something that appeals to my dumb brain.

934
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: You should care about Texas Tech because they're consistent in

935
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: what they do, okay, and I like that there are

936
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: there to me if their defense is top sixty eight,

937
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: which is roughly like you know, upper average whatever. Then

938
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: they become the wild card that we love about every conference,

939
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: whether it was pit from a couple of years ago,

940
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: whether it was old Texas Tech, whether it was Utah

941
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve, or Oregon State way back in

942
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: the mid two thousands. There's something about adding that, like

943
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: a little droplet into a into a stew that changes

944
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: the complexity. Tie. That's all I. That's all I I'm

945
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: gonna do. Defend six and six, six and six, Okay,

946
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: Cliff's job. I don't know. They love them. Yeah, I

947
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't blame them for keeping them. But it's the same

948
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: thing every years. Every year, it's the same story. Yeah,

949
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: I think they might go five and seven, but I

950
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: think they're going to be super entertaining when they do.

951
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: So let's go to k State.

952
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: K State seven and five a year ago, Dan another

953
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: year back with Bill Snyder, indeed Bill Snyder, the timeless

954
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: coach for the Kansas State Wildcats. They've got eight returning

955
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 2: starters on offense, and that terrifies me, to be honest,

956
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: It's never been the most electric offense. They really like

957
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: to play that ball control style. There's nothing really truly

958
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: sexy about it.

959
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: But they're very you are talking about it's never been

960
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: electric as if I don't remember the name Darren Sprowl,

961
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: remember robson a little tank was something else.

962
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: But this is just not an electric offense in the

963
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: way that a Texas Tech or Oklahoma State offenses. But

964
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: they practice their ball control very effectively, and they will

965
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: beat teams.

966
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 1: They will beat teams.

967
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: They get Texas at home a week after Texas goes

968
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,959
Speaker 2: to TCU, which on the surface looks like a very,

969
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: very fun TV show to watch. Here in the Big Twelve,

970
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: I feel like I undershoot every year on K State.

971
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 2: Where do you stand?

972
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: I think they have two pretty capable quarterbacks, neither of

973
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: whom is overwhelming in what Skyler Thompson and Alex Delton.

974
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 1: I think Thompson's the better thrower, Delton's a better runner.

975
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm probably getting that mixed up. I liked Alex Barnes.

976
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 1: The last time we saw Alex Barnes, he was jogging

977
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: through the UCLA defense in their bowl game. I say

978
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: that in a joking manner, but I specifically remember him

979
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: just running straight through the line of scrimmage and be like, oh,

980
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: nobody's here. Huh okay, dok so. I like that element.

981
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: I like Dalton shown the offensive line has experienced, the

982
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: defense is pretty new. I don't like that Byron Pringle

983
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: is gone. I thought he added an element when I

984
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: think they won their last what four or five or

985
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: five of six or something like that, and the big

986
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: thing was they were opening up that offense. They were

987
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: throwing down field. They were hanging with the supposed more

988
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 1: electric offense. They put up forty five in a win

989
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State in Stillwater. They were like last year,

990
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: they were the team that they were a great litmus test,

991
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: like how good really is Iowa State? We know they

992
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: beat Oklahoma, they get edged out by Kansas State, And

993
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: how good is West Virginia. Oh, they're pretty decent. They're

994
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: pretty decent. They can beat Kansas State. They dropped forty

995
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: something against Texas Tech in an overtime win. I think

996
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: they're good. I think they are not going to threaten

997
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 1: ten wins. And I could see them going seven and five,

998
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: eight and four, Yeah, totally, totally. I don't they have

999
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: Joe moorehead in his second game with Mississippi State in Manhattan.

1000
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: You know, UTSA could be tricky. They lose a couple

1001
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: of really big guys from last year, they have a

1002
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: long road trip to West Virginia. But other than that, like,

1003
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: it's not bad. They go two aims to finish out

1004
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: the season. I know they have Oklahoma and TCU in

1005
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: consecutive weeks. That's tough, that's not great, and I think

1006
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna drop at least one of those. They'll probably

1007
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,479
Speaker 1: drop both of those games. But to say that they're

1008
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: going to lose more than five games would be insane.

1009
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm with you. Seven and five, eight

1010
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,959
Speaker 2: and four feels right to me. Yeah, all right, let's

1011
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: go to.

1012
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: And you might be asking to yourself, are our picks

1013
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: mathematically possible? Note with our win totals? No, And to you,

1014
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: I will say every day Ty has been texting me

1015
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: we are rock solid, air tight with our mathematics.

1016
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: We will have someone email about that. Yeah, all right,

1017
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 2: two final participants here in the Big twelve. Yes, Baylor

1018
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 2: went one and eleven a year ago. You might remember

1019
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: that they signed Matt Rule to a seven year deal

1020
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: with Baylor before last season. After the season, he promptly

1021
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: interviewed with the Colts. He didn't take the job, Dan,

1022
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 2: But I just wanted to get that on the record

1023
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: because if that's not the most college football story ever,

1024
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what is.

1025
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the headspace of matt Rule getting this

1026
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: like crazy long guaranteed contract and after a year he

1027
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta move to Indiana. I gotta find

1028
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: my way to Indiana.

1029
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: If he would have bolted given all the strife at

1030
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: Baylor on a seven year contract one year into his tenure,

1031
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: we would have had a new Mattie Ice in the NFL.

1032
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: I I would have, and he would have. He will

1033
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 1: probably in the next two years, end up somewhere else.

1034
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: And it's hard for me to blame anybody for leaving

1035
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: the Baylor situation. I just I can't find a good reason.

1036
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: I understand that he is recruiting, in convincing kids to

1037
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: come to Waco blah blah blah, But given the circumstances there,

1038
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: given the rebuilding job that's needed. You know, Bill O'Brien

1039
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: gave Penn State a couple more couple of years and

1040
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: that at least was they were almost in better shape.

1041
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: It's easier to recruit I think given what the you know,

1042
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: Penn State's history. It's a it's hard to blame that

1043
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: rule for leaving Baylor behind. Here's the thing, Baylor's your

1044
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: favorite effort team, right, I love it. I love Baylor.

1045
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: Love their effort. You Baylor is like an eleven year

1046
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: old who tried to dunk from the free throw line

1047
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: and tripped and didn't get anywhere near there. And you're saying, listen,

1048
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: I get it, that was a one and eleven attempt,

1049
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: but there was some effort there. They played, they were

1050
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: they were better than one and eleven last year. Okay,

1051
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: most teams in the country, thank you.

1052
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: They played really hard. They have seven teen starters back.

1053
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: I think they take a jump forward. The defense is

1054
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: going to be better. Charlie Brewer completed sixty eight percent

1055
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: of his passes last year as a fresh right spot.

1056
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: He's got his entire wide receiving core back. Baylor's not

1057
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: going to make a Bowl, they're not going to challenge

1058
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 2: for the Big Twelve, but they will be better and

1059
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: they will be more interesting.

1060
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: So Jalen Hurt becomes a receiver at Baylor, right, I

1061
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: don't know if that actually means anything. They have a

1062
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: really good nose tackle named Ira, which I'm on board. Great. Sure.

1063
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: And the interesting thing too, is because Baylor's defense was

1064
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: just the bismal last year. Phil Snow, who is kind

1065
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: of the Jim Cheney of like defensive consultancy, has just

1066
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: been everywhere. But he had huge success at Temple turning

1067
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: that defense in from like a joke into a top

1068
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: fifteen defense, you know, and developed NFL draft picks over

1069
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: the years. And this is year two with a lot

1070
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: of experience, not necessarily upfront, but you know, people are

1071
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: going to be more familiar with what he is asking

1072
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: of them and his play calling. You know, you saw those.

1073
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: This is we're talking about Temple largely shutting down everybody,

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Speaker 1: including Notre Dame, which was probably like one of your

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00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: least favorite nights ever. Yeah, when so, I imagine Phil

1076
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: Snow will have this defense going from atrocious to below average.

1077
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: And that's if you are a football nerd pretty good.

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00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: If you are a Baylor fan, Phil Snow probably won't

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Speaker 1: be there in a couple of years. I mean, he's

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00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: an older dude anyway, and he may just follow Matt

1081
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: Rule too. I don't wherever Matt Rule ends up the

1082
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals or the Chiefs or wherever he is in twenty

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00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: twenty one. But they could start for and out. They

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00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: could Abilene Christian at ut San Antonio, Duke and Kansas

1085
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: to open the season. Yeah, that's not bad, all right, effort.

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Speaker 2: Finally, let's go to another one and eleven team, the

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00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 2: Big twelve. That would be the Kansas Jayhawks. Dan, is

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01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: this the year for David Batty?

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Speaker 1: I mean the year he gets fired? Fired? I don't

1090
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: know what is there like an over under date we

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01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: can wager American dollars. Man listen, Kansas is not going

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Speaker 1: to be very good. No, they played Rutgers on September fifteenth. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and that's amazing that they have Rutgers and Baylor in

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01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: consecutive weeks. So Kansas opening with Nickel State at a

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01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: disappointing Central Michigan team, Rutgers and Baylor. If you want

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: to talk about Fluke records to start the year. And

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Speaker 1: I like Kansas's running back Khalil Herbert. He went off.

1098
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: I think he went off against West Virginia last year.

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Speaker 1: The defensive front should be pretty good. I think the

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01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: secondary is trash, but the front should be serviceable. If

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01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: we're talking about a race to they won two last year,

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01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: but three FBS wins. I'm saying, hell, yeah, and that's it.

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01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: Kansas going three and nine.

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Speaker 2: I'm googling talking to your kids about a three Kansas,

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01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: oh four win Kansas, A four and oh Kansas.

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Speaker 1: So after Baylor, Kansas's best shot to get to four

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01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: wins is probably Iowa State on November three at home.

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01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough?

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01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that does it for the Big Twelve again, we're

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01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: both going to Oklahoma. Some dispute over a few teams

1111
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: in here next tier, Yeah, a few teams in here.

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Speaker 2: I guess the most polarizing would be West Virginia, But otherwise,

1113
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: general agreement about the direction of the Big Twelve conference

1114
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: should be a really fun year.

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01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: Wide open on.

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01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: Some level, whether you think it's for the top spot

1117
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: of the second spot, but a lot of interesting TV

1118
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: show is going to take place this year.

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Speaker 1: I think that goes with that same. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that's right. We have a second part to this show.

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01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: If you've downloaded, you already know what that second part is.

1122
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: Tye breaks down his favorite and least favorite girlfriends. Right

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Speaker 1: that was You have a power ranking prepared?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: That is right? Yeah, We're going to talk about independence,

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01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: which of which there are like one and a half

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01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: interesting ones. But I see Ty. I thought about doing

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Speaker 1: it the serious XM voice, but I'm sorry my true

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01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 1: identity the serious XM host. But I wanted I want

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01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: to be more selective about what I do in introducing

1131
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: things and going over things in a different way. And

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Speaker 1: since we are getting into independent teams and now, oh god,

1133
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: it's time for the Notre Dame Radio Houra, brought to

1134
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: you by Duncan's Extra Nicotine Cigarettes. What all the boys

1135
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: are smoking these days? And he has your host, Ty

1136
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: hilden Brands. Hey, what do you say, Ty? How are

1137
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: the fellas looking? Are they gonna give the pretty boys

1138
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: from Southern cal Or run for the money? Wham bam slam,

1139
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: come home, go Irish. Are you done yet? Yeah? I'm done.

1140
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Speaker 2: You do a very convincing like nineteen twenties voice. Thank you,

1141
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: thank you, Notre Dame, my beloved fighting Irish. It went

1142
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: nine to three a year ago, they did. I put

1143
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: a lot of thought into my Notre Dame preview this year.

1144
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: I jotted down my notes at four point thirty in

1145
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: the morning and I couldn't sleep because we were in

1146
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: the process of preparing for this show, and I knew

1147
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: Notre Dame was on the docket. It woke me up early.

1148
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: I had to get up. I had to capture my thoughts.

1149
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: There is objectively a lot to like about this Notre

1150
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: Dame football team this season. By Mike cow we got

1151
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: fifteen started back from a year ago, nine of which

1152
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 2: a're on defense. If you listen to this show the

1153
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: Regular Dan, you'll know we've been talking about the defense

1154
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: since sometime in June. Clark Lee, the new defensive coordinator,

1155
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: was one of my pivotal people.

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01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: For the twenty eighteen season.

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Speaker 2: They're very good at linebacker with Tevon Coney, really good

1158
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: in the secondary with guys like Julian Love. Feel really

1159
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: good about where they're going to come in with the

1160
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: back half of that defense. Two things that normally don't

1161
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: go together. Is Notre Dame in a good secondary, but

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01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 2: I think they have it again. So it hurts to

1163
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: lose Mike Elko and all that, but the defense is

1164
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: still going to be really good for sure. Most of

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01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: my questions are going to be on offense. Did you

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Speaker 2: see that one coming, Dan?

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01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I did. Tie. Yeah, I'm right there

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Speaker 1: with you.

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01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 2: The offense loses Josh Adams to the NFL. They lose

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01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: Dion McIntosh got booted from the team, so there are

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01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: questions at running back. They lose Equinimia Saint Brown who

1172
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 2: left early, and Kevin Stefferson.

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Speaker 1: He also got booted off the team back in January.

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01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 2: And you know, we talked a lot about eq last

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01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: year and I was a big, tall, freak of an

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01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: athlete and all that, but Stepherson was actually their most

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Speaker 2: consistent deep threat and he led the team in receiving touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: And then on top of all that, Quentin Nelson and

1179
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: Mike mcglinchy, two high profile offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: They go in the top ten of the NFL draft.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's recruited really well along the line. They're gonna

1183
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: be fine. But that's that's a lot to lose, right,

1184
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 2: that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean they've developed really well along the line,

1186
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: but they lose Where did their offensive line coach end

1187
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: up seeing the NFL? Yeah, so different guy there. Schedules Actually,

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Speaker 1: I mean we're recording this late July, and this is

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Speaker 1: something we do every year. We say Notre Dame schedules

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01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: is not too bad. And we get to the end

1191
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: of the season, you're like, wow, that was that was rough.

1192
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: But in looking at it in late July, I'm going

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01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: to keep that up because yes, Michigan should be tough,

1194
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: but that's in South Bend. Yes, the the one to

1195
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: two going to and Diego to play Navy and then

1196
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: going to Northwestern and then Florida State, that's gonna be

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01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: pretty top going to USC But for whatever reason, it

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01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: just doesn't stack the way previous years schedule.

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Speaker 2: And this is the kind of schedule you build for

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01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: yourself back in the old days of like NCAA fourteen.

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01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's a good year to travel to

1202
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Granted it's after it's a bodyblow game after Stanford,

1203
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: but I don't love the Stanford defense.

1204
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: You want to have that A minus schedule so you

1205
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 2: can be a good tender, but you want to space

1206
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: it out so the tough games aren't all back to back.

1207
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 1: Jerry Tillery is a member of the Immortal Cavante Turpens. Yeah,

1208
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: because I believe Jerry Tillery was on this defensive line

1209
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: when we started this show in two thousand and eight.

1210
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: Jerry Tillery is the name I've heard for a long

1211
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: time and I am, Yeah, he's back. I really like

1212
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: Drew Tranquil. Yeah, he's in like sort of a hybrid role.

1213
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: Will drop into coverage lot at from the linebacker position

1214
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: and take on a bunch of different types of pass catchers.

1215
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: He'll get after the quarterback. I think he is a

1216
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: sort of prototypical versatile defensive player for twenty eighteen. I

1217
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: think he's great. And because of this defense, even with

1218
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: the new defensive coordinator, even with on offense cycling in

1219
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: a couple new offensive linemen to take over for two great,

1220
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: great Notre Dame players, it's hard to see them losing

1221
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: more than four games. Oh my god. Yeah there, I

1222
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: would say four losses, eight wins, four losses, eight wins,

1223
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 1: four and eight.

1224
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: There isn't a team on the schedule that you look

1225
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: at at first, blush and say that's a definite loss.

1226
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: Right, you know, I feel pretty good about Notre Dame.

1227
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 2: All the pieces are here, and I still think it's

1228
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 2: going to be a potent offense. But I have questions

1229
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: about running back, wide receiver, offensive line. The biggest one,

1230
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 2: and I haven't mentioned me yet, is Brandon Wimbush. He

1231
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: is truly the X factor I have ripped on Wimbush

1232
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 2: since Week three of last year, So today I'm going

1233
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: to try and strike more.

1234
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: Of a hopeful tone. Dan Okay, he's a dynamic runner.

1235
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: If he can become a more reliable and more confident passer,

1236
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: Notre Dame could be a good tender.

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01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: Who knows, Brandon won much scares defenses more than anybody

1238
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: else in that room. Totally.

1239
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 2: Right now, it seems like he is entrenched as a

1240
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: starting quarterback. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if Brian

1241
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 2: Kelly has a quick hook in that Michigan game, depending

1242
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: on how things go. I don't know how entrenched he

1243
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 2: is at the quarterback spot. We saw what happened down

1244
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 2: the stretch last year. Kelly went to Ian book more

1245
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 2: than once, so I got real questions about where this

1246
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 2: is all headed. I think a lot of it falls

1247
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 2: on the shoulders Wimbush. I do agree with you, though.

1248
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 2: I think eight and four is probably the floor, and

1249
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 2: there is a lot of room to grow in that schedule.

1250
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: If I were a Notre Dame fan, yes, If I

1251
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: were a Notre Dame fan, I'd be a little disappointed

1252
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: in Florida State weren't earlier in this schedule. Yes, that's fair,

1253
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: and this would have been a very good year for

1254
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: USC to come to South Bend with inexperienced quarterback. But

1255
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: even with Sam Darnold, USC did nothing at South Bend

1256
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 1: last year, so I would assume feel pretty good about that.

1257
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: It doesn't come after a big emotional game elsewhere, that

1258
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: USC game on the road, So it shapes up pretty

1259
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: well for Notre Dame totally.

1260
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, eight and fours. The floor defense is going to

1261
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: be rock solid. Offense really has to prove itself. There

1262
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 2: are going to be a lot of new name Dexter Williams,

1263
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 2: can Tony Jones fill the void a running back. Just

1264
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 2: a lot of questions for me about who the contributors

1265
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,839
Speaker 2: are going to be around Brandon Wimbush.

1266
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: Do they have a good tight end this year? Is

1267
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: mac Alis mack is back? Yeah? Okay, that's good. I

1268
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: mean traditionally they've had good tight end play to bail

1269
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: them out of third and eights, and that seems like

1270
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: it would be helpful.

1271
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: I look, the offense was really good in spots last

1272
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: year two, but what ended up happening against teams with

1273
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: better defense is they figured out Brandon Wimbush and that

1274
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: he couldn't throw, or that he wasn't confident throwing from

1275
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: the pocket. They need to add another dimension to that

1276
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: offense this year, and whether it's Wimbush or Book or

1277
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: Phil Jerkovic the last four games of the year, I

1278
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: don't know. They have to find some way to add

1279
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: a little bit more spice to keep teams and some

1280
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:23,839
Speaker 2: of these defenses off balance.

1281
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: So I would say, the reason to care about Notre Dame,

1282
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm not caring that much about this anymore. Pause.

1283
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 2: Everyone cares about Notre Dame. You care because you hate him,

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Speaker 2: You care because you love them. We don't need to

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Speaker 2: tell people why they should or shouldn't care.

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Speaker 1: The football reasons to care is there will be a

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Speaker 1: very good defense taking on probably let's see Karan Higg then,

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Speaker 1: top fifteen running back in the country, Bryce Love probably

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Speaker 1: the best running back in the country. Cam Aker is

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Speaker 1: one of the most talented running backs in the country.

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Speaker 1: USC has a bunch of offensive skill talents, so you

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Speaker 1: will see the sort of hat on hat if you're

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Speaker 1: a football nerd, there is something fun about this defense

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Speaker 1: going against some of the country's best on offense.

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Speaker 2: All right, very quickly, because we promised, let's cycle through

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Speaker 2: the independence here rip through real quick. Army UMass and BYU.

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Speaker 1: Army is pretty good, which is good because we like

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Speaker 1: watching Army Navy and they beat Navy and they don't

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Speaker 1: have a mod Bradshaw, which is kind of a bummer.

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Speaker 1: You didn't get a year of eligibility. But Army is

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Speaker 1: still going to be good and their defense should be

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Speaker 1: better because they weren't that good last year, so that's good.

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Speaker 1: Army Navy will be fun and they play Lafayette. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's not to care about with Army. Then UASS has

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Speaker 1: been tricky. They return their quarterback. They gave us scare

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Speaker 1: to both Mississippi State and Tennessee last year, and they

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Speaker 1: host USF and stay relatively close to home to take

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Speaker 1: on Boston College. So keep those anten I up. BYU

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Speaker 1: decided not to hire a former quarterback with no college

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Speaker 1: coaching experience as offensive coordinator. Sorry, and so they have

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Speaker 1: a better one unpresumably and maybe they'll go better than

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Speaker 1: four to nine and get to a bowl game. But

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Speaker 1: their schedule is not great. They go to Wisconsin, to Washington,

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Speaker 1: to Boise State and two Utah. Good luck with all

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Speaker 1: of that, and very quickly, did you know New Mexico

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Speaker 1: State's defensive coordinator was Frank Spaziani. I didn't, no, really,

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Speaker 1: and their schedule is pretty good and they should, which

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Speaker 1: is a good story. Go to a bowl again, So

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Speaker 1: go Aggie's. And if you really deep into FBS independence,

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Speaker 1: you know that the Liberty Flames are debuting as an

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Speaker 1: FBS independent team, and you should care about Liberty because

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Speaker 1: if you've ever asked yourself, where's Turner Gill? The answer

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Speaker 1: is Liberty. Where's where's Ian macaw? The awful former Baylor

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Speaker 1: ad He's at Liberty? So go team playing Liberty? O. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there you go, yes, and I will say this Ty.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Independence. We talked about the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: And if you are a fan of I don't know

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Speaker 1: Carolina State or Washington or Penn State or Notre Dame,

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Speaker 1: why do you care about the Big Twelve? I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about this. We talk about it the Big Twelve

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Speaker 1: as a TV show and I don't go to mall's

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Speaker 1: all that oftentie, But if college football were a mall,

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Speaker 1: the Big Twelve is Brookstone, Brookstone. Do you know Brookstone?

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Speaker 1: I don't. You don't know Brookstone. I don't know Brookstone. Brookstone.

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Speaker 1: You probably have an equivalent. Brookstone is one of those

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Speaker 1: stores that sells a lot of what you'll see in

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Speaker 1: like one of those airplane magazines, Like they sell like

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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff you don't think you need, but

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, a massager in my shirt collar, okay,

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Speaker 1: And there's some of it is sort of luxurious and

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Speaker 1: they're just things are just a little bit like a

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Speaker 1: vertical CD player, like, oh, I didn't I don't think

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Speaker 1: I need that, But that's kind of fun that that exists. Like, oh,

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01:13:54,840 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: they're still selling Mike stoops defense. That's weird, but there

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Speaker 1: is something kind of luxurious and fun and you got

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Speaker 1: to take a look. And that, to me is what

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Speaker 1: Brookstone is. Okay, and the Big twelve and the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: Let's leave it at that.

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Speaker 2: You got to get to a Brookstone, ty you'd love it.

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Speaker 2: See what I can do? So gmail dot com is

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Speaker 1: I need to end this show. This is This is

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Speaker 1: my signal.

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Speaker 2: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 2: for myself, Tie hilden Brandt, thanks again for tuning into

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