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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites the podcast from the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I Am Chad Millman. Massive Massive Podcast Day, Massive Podcast Day.

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Speaker 1: Later on in the show You're not Gonna want to

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Speaker 1: miss It, Darren Revel did an amazing interview with Tobias

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Speaker 1: Harris or the Philadelphia seventy Sixers, who just signed a

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Speaker 1: one d eighty million dollar max contract with the seventy

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Speaker 1: six Ers last year. At this time, Tobias Harris was

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Speaker 1: offered a contract for half that money ninety million dollars,

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Speaker 1: still a lot of money, turned it down bet on Himself.

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Speaker 1: In our continuing bet on Yourself series, Revel is going

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Speaker 1: to talk to Tobias Harris and his agent, who also

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Speaker 1: happens to be his father, about what it took to

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Speaker 1: turn down ninety million and turn that into two x

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Speaker 1: the money, including a hilarious quote about the business of

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Speaker 1: being a father son agent player duo, and then the

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Speaker 1: management of that money from Tobios Harris. It's not one

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Speaker 1: you're gonna want to miss. Stick around for that, But

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Speaker 1: first up British Open Week. They're playing in Northern Ireland

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Speaker 1: at Port Rush. Whether will be a factor Tiger Woods

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Speaker 1: has been off for a month. Can Brooks kept up

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Speaker 1: be the major master. What is going to happen? Jason

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Speaker 1: Silbell knows all the answers because he is our golf

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Speaker 1: genius at the Action Network. What's going on? Buddy? What's up? Chad?

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite weeks of the year. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait for this thing to get started. How early are

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Speaker 1: you setting the alarm for it this week? So listen?

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Speaker 1: I'm up so early anyways, because you know my kids historically,

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Speaker 1: have you got enough so early that even though now

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Speaker 1: they sleep till you know, the next day, I still

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Speaker 1: get up at five thirty in the morning. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: be too late. You're like midway through the early wave

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Speaker 1: rounds already. I think I want you to up with

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Speaker 1: about three thirty five this week. I can do that.

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Speaker 1: I can do that, no problem. Everybody should listen to you.

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Speaker 1: Everyone should go download, subscribe, rate, and review the Action

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Speaker 1: Network podcast. Not that I want to drive people away

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Speaker 1: from ours, but I do want them to listen to

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Speaker 1: what you Andrew staus Ak Sleeves and Peter Jennings doing

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Speaker 1: the podcast. You guys are killing it and this podcast

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Speaker 1: is doing gangbusters right now. So everyone should go listen

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Speaker 1: to the Action Network podcast where you can get Sobel.

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Speaker 1: You can also get like Stucky and Colin Wilson in

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Speaker 1: college football. You can get Shaun Corner and Chris Raybon

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Speaker 1: and Matthew Freedman on Fantasy in the NFL. Uh, it's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Go get it. Um boy, oh boy, we are loaded

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Speaker 1: for bear. Why do you like this week so much? Sobel?

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Speaker 1: What's so special about the British Open? Man, how long

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Speaker 1: do we have? Uh, It's just a different kind of

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Speaker 1: golf than we see, at least from the PGA Tour

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Speaker 1: sense of things, any other week of the year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're watching New York and were golf to wake

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Speaker 1: up early on the weekends, okay, the Irish Open two

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Speaker 1: paying attention to n PG eights, who were golf that

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Speaker 1: we see these lush parkland courses with big greens and

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Speaker 1: uh and they're they're very green and uh and building

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Speaker 1: type of golf. It just it feels different, it looks different,

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Speaker 1: it plays differently. Uh. Like I said, I love it.

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Speaker 1: And I love the fact that you know, I always

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Speaker 1: got to ask this question, what what major is the best?

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Speaker 1: What what's the real way that a major should play?

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Speaker 1: Should be twenty under like a like an Open Championship

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Speaker 1: all different, and if they were all the same, fit

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Speaker 1: four major championships that were all the same, it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be as much fun. I love the fact that the

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Speaker 1: Open Championship this week is so completely different from anything

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Speaker 1: U s Open so far this year. Alright, so right

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Speaker 1: now on the Action Network dewnload the app. It's free.

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Speaker 1: You have multiple stories up and we're gonna get through

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Speaker 1: all of them because they all relate to betting, finding

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Speaker 1: your advantage when betting the US Open, the British Open.

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Speaker 1: The first thing you did, which is which is an

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Speaker 1: epic undertaking. You've done it for all all three other majors,

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Speaker 1: and in your introduction you right that it is getting

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Speaker 1: harder and harder to do this. Explain why I feel

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Speaker 1: like Chad ten years ago, and I've been doing this

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Speaker 1: for a long content to its mother outlets before the

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Speaker 1: Action Network. I'm very old right now, and I'm older

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Speaker 1: than Tiger Woods. That's how old I am shape right now.

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Speaker 1: it's been a long time been doing these lists. Ten

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys. But let's say, all right, I'm

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't mean I hate the guy. And the

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Speaker 1: fact that the fields are so deep, there's so many

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Speaker 1: that would be remarkable. But do you think that that

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Speaker 1: superior athletes. It's part of it. I think that there's

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Speaker 1: felt like you know Ted Nite, the judge from Caddyshack, right,

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Speaker 1: Remember where I said about those twelve prongs of Tiger

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Speaker 1: and that is maybe I direct impact of Tiger. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: number one. And then again there's some intangible so we

427
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: can't really look at the numbers. We can't look at analytics.

428
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: I try to find some like a text height of

429
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Speaker 1: drives and UH and and launch angles and things. I mean,

430
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: we're going like super inside baseball there, uh talking about

431
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: like little things like this. But I'm trying to find

432
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 1: the guys hit uh, hit a low ball and are

433
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: better in the wind, because at some point the wind

434
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 1: is gonna blow, and I think those guys can have

435
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: a little bit of an advantage over guys who hit

436
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Speaker 1: a real high ball. I looked at the numbers Bryson

437
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 1: d Chambeau and sit the ball higher than anybody else

438
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour this year. That's gonna work really

439
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 1: well the three M Open in Minnesota when the wind

440
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 1: isn't blowing, where he finished in second place a couple

441
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. That's not gonna work at Royal Port Rush.

442
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: And for that reason, I put him pretty far down

443
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Speaker 1: on the list in comparison to where he ranks amongst

444
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Speaker 1: the world's best players. So I think that's a big

445
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: thing for me too. It's just kind of their ball flight,

446
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,239
Speaker 1: how they hit the ball, as opposed to just how

447
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: well they hit the ball. All right, So you have

448
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Speaker 1: Adam Scott Uh, your top ring player. I also know

449
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: from another story, not that we want to give away

450
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: the story, that you have Adam Scott as your best

451
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: bet to win the tournament. Uh as sort of the

452
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: best value odds right there. I've bet on Justin Thomas

453
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: at thirty to one. UM, give me. I want to

454
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: run through some bets here. Uh, explain to me why

455
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: you like Matt Kuchar to finish in the top five.

456
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: I feel like he's having a renaissance. He is having

457
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: the strangest year of his entire career. And that's not

458
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: all bad. I mean, he's gone through all these controversies.

459
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: You know, first of the caddie payment, and he you know,

460
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: basically underpaid his caddy and it went viral and people

461
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: heard about it and you had to make amends for it,

462
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: and he wanted up paying them. And you know, people

463
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Speaker 1: people think that Kucher is an awful person because of

464
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Speaker 1: this story that got out. I've known Matt Kucher for

465
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Speaker 1: a long time. He's very far from an awful person.

466
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Speaker 1: Might not have handled that situation perfectly, but he's not

467
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: a bad guy whatsoever. Uh. Then he had, yeah, a

468
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: situation where he he didn't give up the Sergio Garcia.

469
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: The match players like some two inches away and Sergio

470
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: went and kind of raked it and didn't make it

471
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: and then couture again not his fault, but didn't really

472
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Speaker 1: play it the right way. He had a drop situation

473
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Speaker 1: the Memorial where he asked for a drop that no

474
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Speaker 1: other player would ask for us for ruling, didn't get it,

475
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: but still on TV for fifteen minutes talking about the situation,

476
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: and uh, he didn't look good. That's said. That's all

477
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: the bad stuff. All the good stuff is he's probably

478
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Speaker 1: having the best year of his career. He's got a

479
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: couple of wins already this season. Uh, he's I believe,

480
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: number one on the FedEx Cup points list right now. Uh.

481
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: So he's playing really really good golf. He's played really

482
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: well the Open last couple of years. Remember his second

483
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Speaker 1: to Jordan's two years ago at Birkdale. He came in

484
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: ninth last year at car Newski. So he understands how

485
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: to play these types of golf courses. So I like

486
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Speaker 1: matc future a lot long long with he answered, say

487
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: I like him the other the other bet that's interesting

488
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: to me, and it relates to a story that you

489
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Speaker 1: wrote that I want to get to brooks Kepka versus

490
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Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson. You mentioned both of them sort of in

491
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Speaker 1: the middle of our podcast earlier today. Who do you

492
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: like in that matchup? I like brooks Kepa and it's

493
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: mostly based on what we've seen from him in major championships.

494
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: This guy is impervious to momentum and he doesn't need

495
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: to sort of trend in the right direction before he

496
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Speaker 1: gets to the major. In fact, when I was England,

497
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Speaker 1: so the few weeks ago, I spoke with him. I said,

498
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Speaker 1: you know, why do you like to play the week

499
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Speaker 1: before major championship? I was worked on this piece of

500
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: players either playing the week before or choosing to rest

501
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: and prep the week before. He actually prepped for this one.

502
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: He didn't play the week before, but usually he likes

503
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: to play. In In all four instances where he's won

504
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: major in the last few years, he has played the

505
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: week before. He said, look, you guys don't get it

506
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: like you guys hear me say, like, I go home

507
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: and I don't really practice, but you think like I'm

508
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: actually just practicing a little bit. He goes, when I

509
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: go home, I don't play golf. I'm telling like I

510
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: don't take my clubs out of the travel bag when

511
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: I go home, And so I like playing the week

512
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: before a major because it actually makes me that's my practice,

513
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: is playing some tournament the week before, because if I'm

514
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: not doing that, I'm not playing any golf whatsoever. And

515
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: the fact that he's first of all too honest about

516
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: a chad. Secondly, that you will go out there and

517
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: basically just practiced by playing a tournament for a week

518
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: and then get to the major and played better than

519
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: just about everybody else is remarkable to me. And I

520
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: know you want to get to the other part of this,

521
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: but you got a secret weapon, uh right next to

522
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: him all week this week as well. But before we

523
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: get to that, before we get to this secret weapon,

524
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: which is an amazing story, Um, it's also amazing to like,

525
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: do you think he would be that much better if

526
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Speaker 1: he was practicing? No, I just don't think it's in

527
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: his makeup whatsoever. And by the same token, I think

528
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: the other play airs who would be so frustrated trying

529
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: to live life like brooks Kepta. I made this joke

530
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I believe it was a third round at

531
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: the p g A Championship where Kepta and Jordan's Speef

532
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: were paired together, and Jordan's Spiece I've always thought, is

533
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: the type of guy that wakes up at three o'clock

534
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: in the morning, walks into the bathroom and like checks

535
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: like looks at his swing in the mirror and like

536
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: looks at his grip and tries to figure out, like

537
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: what he's doing wrong, uh, and just drives himself nuts

538
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: based on how much he thinks about his game, how

539
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: much he worked on his game, if he tried to

540
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: do what Kepta does, he would never be able to

541
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: play golf. It just it wouldn't work for him. He

542
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: needs to be all in a hundred percent of the

543
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: time thinking about his game, working on his game. If Kepta,

544
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: by the same token, tried to do what Jordan's Speef

545
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: does and thought and worked on his game all the time,

546
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 1: he just he'd wear out. It's just not in his makeup.

547
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: He just wants to go out there and hit the ball,

548
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: and it works really well for him. I just don't

549
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: think that if kept the works really really hard on

550
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: trying to get better and trying, I just don't think

551
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna work for him. I just don't think

552
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: it's in his makeup. It's amazing how much of a

553
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: mental game that makes golf right. Yeah, totally, and I

554
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: think it. You know, I can figure. I play a

555
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: lot of golf, and you know I played, like I said,

556
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: I played with some guys who are pros, who know

557
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: the game really well. I had one of my buddies

558
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: is a pro. The other guy I said, hey, next

559
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: time hear the range, you should work on this. And

560
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: I said, I don't go to the range like I.

561
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: I literally go to the range. So I can like

562
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: seeing the buddies who are practicing and hang out there

563
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: and have a beer and talk to them while they're practicing.

564
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't practice, and so I can understand kept his

565
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: mentality of I just want to go play golf and

566
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out what I'm playing. But if I practice,

567
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: I'll get worse. He just won't work. And I'm the

568
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: same way. So I totally understand where he's coming from,

569
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: even if it sounds weird and most population, you know you,

570
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: When I think about brooks Kept, I think about you

571
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: in the same in the same place, an easy comparison.

572
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: Really yeah, totally, totally. Um. The one thing you're missing

573
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: this might be. What's separating you from being Brooks Kopka

574
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: is his caddy, Ricky Elliott, who you wrote about in

575
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: the Action Network an amazing story literally grew up at

576
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: Port Rush where the British is being played this week,

577
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: like not in Northern Ireland, but a quarter mile away

578
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: from the course and says he's played it a thousand times.

579
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: Kind of advantage is that it's intangible. And I don't

580
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: know how to rate this. I mean, for years we

581
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: talked about Steve Williams relation to Tiger Woods and how

582
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: much is Steve worth to Tiger Yeah, I mean monetarily,

583
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean how many strokes as you're worth per round,

584
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: per tournament. I don't know any way of figuring this out.

585
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: I've always thought that certain caddies are worth more to

586
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: certain players than other caddies are. And yeah, good example

587
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: right now, Paultera stories on Web Simpson's bag. Paulta's or

588
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: on another bag isn't worth as much as he is

589
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: to Web Simpson because he is out there basically like

590
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: like it's like Web Simpson's his dog on the leash

591
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: and Paul is pulling him in every direction. It works

592
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: really well when they work as a team. I'm getting

593
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: off topic here, but Kept is not the kind of

594
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: guy who lies on Ricky as much as some other

595
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: players to. So I don't know that it's necessarily worth

596
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: X amount of strokes per four rounds of golf this week.

597
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: But all I know is it doesn't hurt. It just

598
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt for him to have a guy who knows

599
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: the course really well. So I spoke with Ricky a

600
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. He told me he's played the

601
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: course over a thousand times. He and Graham McDowell both

602
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: grew up together. Uh that old job share in the

603
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: summers where Ricky would work with the head pro in

604
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: the mornings and do whatever the pro needed him to do,

605
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: and Graham would be out there playing in practicing, and

606
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: then they'd go switch around noon and Ricky would go

607
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: out and play the course then. And Rickie said, like

608
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: I said, he's he's played it over a thousand times.

609
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: He knows the course. He's actually saying in his childhood

610
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: bedroom this week, Uh, not far from the course. So

611
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: he's got a twin bed, golf trophies around the rooms

612
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: and his parents never threw anything away, which is pretty funny. So, uh, Yeah,

613
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: if anything, maybe it helps deflect any attention that Books

614
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: is getting. And I opink Books necessarily feels the pressure

615
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: very much, especially uh at an international event, and so

616
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: if you're in the States. But if everyone's yelling hey,

617
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: go Ricky, go Ricky and says go Brooks, I think

618
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: that deflects a little bit and I can probably help

619
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: a golfer. Well, it's so interesting you make kept a

620
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: sound like he's a little bit either just machine like

621
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: or like one of these sort of I don't I

622
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: don't mean this in a pejorative way, an empty headed,

623
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: sort of natural athlete, right where it's all so easy

624
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: that he's impervious to a lot of things that would

625
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: impact golfers. But also he doesn't need the extra help

626
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: that he thinks he's going to give him a mental edge.

627
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is, if there's anybody who might

628
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: not need Ricky Elliott at the British Open, it's Brooks

629
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Speaker 1: Kepta who just happens to have Ricky Elliott, much like

630
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: his friend Dustin Johnson. I think kept It has gotten

631
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: a reputation in the public as being, yeah, sort of

632
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: like an empty headed, you know, kind of jock frat

633
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: brow type guy who you know just goes out there

634
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: hit ball, dude, and you know it doesn't have to

635
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: worry a lot about you know, I just did it

636
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: one time and another time goes in the home the

637
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: big peel man. And the truth of matter is, I

638
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: think he works really hard to maintain that image because

639
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Speaker 1: he doesn't want people think of him as like this,

640
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Speaker 1: you know, serious thinker or anything like. I think there's

641
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: a lot more going on with the books kept then

642
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Speaker 1: we understand. And Chad, did you see where I put

643
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: him on my list of one to one? Did you

644
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: get all the way down there? Remind me it wasn't

645
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't like that high up that I'm thinking, this

646
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. I'm gonna barely out here. I

647
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Speaker 1: put him one fifty six on the list. There you go.

648
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Speaker 1: You know why Brooks plays with a chip on his shoulder,

649
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: and he has admitted that sometimes he manufactures that chip.

650
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes his name might be spelled wrong somewhere.

651
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: He throws his hands up and this man, I'm getting disrespected.

652
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: And he used that used as fuel and motivation to

653
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Speaker 1: go out and play better golf. And so I put

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Speaker 1: him one fifty six on my list and said, here's

655
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: the strategy. Let's all bet Brooks kept. Now let's hope

656
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: this gets back to him. He hears that someone placed

657
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Speaker 1: him dead last in a ranking of the entire field

658
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: for the Open Championship. And now let's see him go

659
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: from Bruce Banner to the Hulk, get really mad, go

660
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: out and win this championship, and then we all win

661
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: after having motivated him to go play better. How's that

662
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: for a plan? I like it. I like the way

663
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: you're assuming your influence is going to go worldwide, and

664
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate that kind of hubris. We need that at

665
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: the Action Network. I'm not sure it has yet. I

666
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: was really trying to go to one of my fellow

667
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: reporters into asking him about the press conference. I thought

668
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: that would be a great kept good question. As he's

669
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: preparing himself for the tournament. Some guy raised his hand,

670
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: takes the microphone and says, Brooksie, though you were ranked

671
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Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty six on one list of the

672
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: entire field and books you know, just like slam his

673
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: fist down on the table. Go you guys, don't respect me,

674
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: and like walk off and go out and win by

675
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Speaker 1: twelve and like, you know, mission accomplished. We figured everything

676
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: out that we need to figure out. That's exactly what

677
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: we're trying to get him to do. But that hasn't

678
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: happened yet. Hopefully it will. Well, you never know, You

679
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: just never know. Sobel, all right, Jason, Sobel the Action

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Speaker 1: Network Action Network Podcast. Go, Go sign up, Go subscribe,

681
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: go rate, go review, by the way, subscribe, rate and

682
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: review this podcast as well. Here's what I can recap

683
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: for us, Jason. You like Adam Scott, I like Justin Thomas.

684
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: You like Matt Coucher in Top five. You're like Brooke

685
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Speaker 1: cap Brooks kept even though you have him ranked one

686
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: fifty six and your players of one. You like him

687
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: in a match up against Dustin Johnson. I like you

688
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: to cover the British Open with Flair for the Action Network.

689
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: That's even money right there. We'll see what happens. You're

690
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: the best brother. Coming up next on the podcast, Yeah yeah, yeah.

691
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Speaker 1: Coming up next on the podcast, Dinner Revel Tobias Harris

692
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: betting on himself and making a hundred and eighty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Chad, and welcome back to the Favorite podcast. I'm

694
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Speaker 1: Darren Ravell. Tobias Harris signed a one eighty million dollar

695
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Speaker 1: five year deal with the seventies six ers after turning

696
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: down an eighty million dollar extension with the Clippers a

697
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: year before. And another way to bet is to bet

698
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: on yourself, and Tobias Harris certainly did that and he

699
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: came out a hundred million dollars richer. So joining us

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Speaker 1: now is Tobias Harris with the seventies six ers for

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Speaker 1: the next five years, and his father, and not just

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00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: his father, also his agent, Terrell Harris. Let's get right

703
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: to it, Tobias, when you know the Clippers offered you

704
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: an eighty million dollar extension, what made you say I'm

705
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: gonna bet on myself and let's see what's down the

706
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: road and get to the point where I'm an unrestricted

707
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: free agent? Number one. It was for me. I've been

708
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: in different situations where I have been traded and I

709
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: had just got there for probably like games or whatnot.

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Speaker 1: And on top of that, you know, me and my

711
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,959
Speaker 1: father had had talked about it and he said, listen,

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Speaker 1: you know, I know next summer that I can get

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00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: you close to max deal. I've seen the way that

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Speaker 1: you've worked this summer, and for me, my confidence was

715
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: sky high in the summer and the opportunity and the

716
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: role that I was going to have on the team

717
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: with with the Clippers, who was going to be a

718
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: big one also knew my game and knew that I

719
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: wanted a five year deal. He was able to make

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00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: that decision, and you know, it definitely paid off in

721
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: the right way. But my father definitely gave me some

722
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: great confidence in knowing that there was greater out there.

723
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Speaker 1: And I went home, I looked at the free agent

724
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: list of guys that were gonna be free agents the

725
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: next summer, and I said, I'm gonna be one of

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00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: the best guys on that list. And I just put

727
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: there working for it. What's it like to actually make

728
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: that decision on a human level? Or you turned down

729
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: the money and then you didn't think about it again,

730
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: how did it actually work in your head? It was like,

731
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: you know when it when it first came out, you

732
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: just called eighty million dollars everybody through the internet. When

733
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: I was like, man, are you bugging? Like what you're doing?

734
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, And I was just like, man, listen.

735
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: Like when we were in Orlando, my father, we had

736
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: a deal with the Magic for an extension that was

737
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: four year, thirty two and eighty year or whatnot. And

738
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: he had said to me, listen, like same exact conversation.

739
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: I've seen the work you put in. I know the

740
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Speaker 1: next summer, Uh, you're being a free agent. I can

741
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: get you anywhere from thirteen up. And we ended up

742
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: doing four years sixt four. So just having that confidence

743
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: to better on yourself, it takes a lot, and I

744
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: knew that for me, Like when you bet on yourself,

745
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: you've got to be able to really devote yourself to

746
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: staying healthy and playing great basketball. So you know, those

747
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: all those things went to that decision making process. But

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Speaker 1: I had signed a big deal previous, and you know,

749
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Speaker 1: I knew that. Let's just say, if I really played

750
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: down to the level, you know, which I knew I

751
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna do, but I knew I'd be in a

752
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: good situation with godless you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, Terrell,

753
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: You've been in this business for a long time. It's

754
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Speaker 1: not like you're just some dad who decides to represent

755
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: his son and that's the first time you're in the business.

756
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: You've been in this business for a long time. So

757
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: how does that make things different, that it's not like

758
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: this is your first rodeo. Oh a big difference, of course.

759
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: I just want to set all praise to God, you know,

760
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: protecting Tobias from any injuries. But I've been in this

761
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: business and I look at Tobias and I didn't really

762
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: see that many players better than him in the NBA.

763
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: So when Lawrence presented me, and Lawrence knew too that, hey,

764
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Speaker 1: I understand you're turning it down. I know Tobias is

765
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: worked more than that, and so it was to me

766
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Speaker 1: it wasn't really a big deal because a couple of factors.

767
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: I see the work device puts in. I see the

768
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: dedication that he has when it comes to the game

769
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Speaker 1: of basketball, the preparation he goes about each and every day.

770
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: So it wasn't really a tough decision like a lot

771
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: of people. He says, how does the father's son dynamic

772
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: helper hurt? I can see on one side, well, obviously,

773
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: you know he's my father, so he might believe in

774
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: me more than you know. He might say I'm better

775
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: than I really am, or how close you are, and

776
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: you do this well, you obviously know it's not like

777
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: a typical agent player relationship where you don't know if

778
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: the agents in it for themselves. So the fact that

779
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: you are father's son, how does that make this decision

780
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: either harder or easier. Well, it's it doesn't mean it's

781
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: the respect that we have for one another. Bias has

782
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: some million I have for him as a basketball players

783
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: and what he you know he do day in and

784
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: day out. But realistically, if you look at the statistics

785
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: of tobias efficiencies in the NBA, it's off the chart.

786
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: It's one of the top players that's in the NBA.

787
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: He has in the most durable and one of the

788
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: youngest free agencies out here. So it's like when you

789
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: look at the statistics, it's all strictly fat. So it

790
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: gets the point of father and son relationship goes off.

791
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: I'll just treat him as he's one of another top

792
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: client that we all have. But I just think if

793
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: you look at tobias efficiency and the things that he

794
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: had done and always constantly getting better each and every year,

795
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: you know you knew that he's one of the top

796
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: guy in the league. Right. So data is data, statistics

797
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: or statistics. There's a reason why they call them the

798
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: human Swiss army knife. I get that, Tobias. Was there

799
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: ever a time during the season where you thought maybe

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00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna pay off? Um? No, not really. I

801
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: knew for me, at the end of the day, things

802
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: are gonna work in the place that they're supposed to

803
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: work out now for my faith and my trust and God,

804
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: knowing that every situation is to present it for me

805
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: to grow and learn and and to develop. Whatever is

806
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: to happen is gonna be what's to happen. I think

807
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: when you look at myself and my career, just the

808
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: trades and the ups and downs I've I've grown from

809
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: every trade, grown from every scenario, every situation. So I

810
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: kind of knew that it is what you make it.

811
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Speaker 1: You know, if if you want, you could make it

812
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: as hey, I want I just want this and that

813
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: in my career. But for me, I really wanted to win.

814
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: I know, like what you just touched on the last question,

815
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: my father and me and and the balance. You know,

816
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: sometimes I have to tell them, look, I just need

817
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: you to be dead right now instead of agent. And

818
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: we have a good dialogue with that, and we have

819
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: a good dialogue of knowing, Okay, it's time to sit

820
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: down and talk. When it's time to talk, I call him,

821
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: I say I needed to speak to Tarrelle. But when

822
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: it's time in to be father, I call him. I say,

823
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: what's up there? How you doing? So we got that

824
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: type of dialogue down. That's great, that's awesome. What were

825
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: your first thoughts when, Hey, I did get this deal?

826
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: Obviously the Sixers had your bird right, so they could

827
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: offer you one more year, they could offer you more money.

828
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: So when you got the five year, one eighty, what

829
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: was your first reaction? I was ecstatic. I was super excited.

830
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: This is what I wanted to be so I wanted

831
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: to get a deal done here. I wanted to be

832
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: in the city. I wanted to be with these guys

833
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: on the team, and um, when um it was presenting

834
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: the meeting, we were excited. And I was happy for

835
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: myself for where I've gone. And I was really happy

836
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: for my father too, because, um, you know, breaking in

837
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: being in the agency game way back and then now

838
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: coming back and get into it and being able to

839
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: do both the deals that he has done for me

840
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: just speaks by him a hard work that he put

841
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: in and and and just him as an agent and

842
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: as a father, Karen and Trusting and his son and Klient.

843
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: So I was really happy for him. Terrell, I did

844
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: a little research. Did you represent George Gurvan? So what's

845
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: your history as an agent? Well, my history goes back

846
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: thirty years. I represented George Gurvan, Cliff Robertson, Fret Flouster,

847
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: Lamette Wood, James Bains, Derek Gervin called to mckimmy. You've

848
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: been around the block here, Yeah, long time, Tobias. I

849
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: think people love stories when guys bet on themselves and

850
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: it comes out right, whether it's you or the famous

851
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco story and him bringing the Ravens to the

852
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in his contract year. And what would you

853
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: tell other players who potentially could make the same type

854
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: of bet on themselves? What would what would you tell

855
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: them about how to go about it? Now, you gotta

856
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: have faith in your your own self and you gotta

857
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: be smart too. You want to be able to make

858
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: a decision that could help yourself and help your family

859
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: and be able to really be in a situation where

860
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: you can excel as a player. But I would I

861
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: would just say you have to be confident. Confidence is

862
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 1: number one. Being confident, being smart, You gotta be able

863
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: to back up both of those things with your hard work.

864
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: And that's what I was saying. Just put yourself around

865
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: a good team and a good team that keeps it

866
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: real with you, that you know when you're doing wrong,

867
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: let you know when you doing good, and um, just

868
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: being smart and confident. Those are two of the best

869
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: things I could give a vice. What did you do

870
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: anything special this year in terms of being more careful

871
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: because of what was on the line, in terms of

872
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: either not going out in a town or do something

873
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: different because of the stakes involved. But you always got

874
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: to be sharp. And today's day, with social media and

875
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: with cell phones and with everything going on in America

876
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: in general, you gotta be smart with how you approach things.

877
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: You gotta be smart with your approach to just being

878
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: a professional. So to be honest, I didn't do anything different.

879
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: I've been doing this ever since I got in the league.

880
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to be one of the best professionals on

881
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: and off the floor, so I just stuck to things

882
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: that when I first came to the league that I

883
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: learned from that and I learned from experience, and then

884
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: I've been just doing those exact same things and just

885
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: getting smarter along the process every year. All right, two

886
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: more questions, Terrell, how does commission work with father son relationship?

887
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: He gets one. I want to go back with the

888
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: questions to just asked him. One thing I want to

889
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: say about the lives. He played the game the right way.

890
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: When he was in the l A the Clippers, Doc

891
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: gave him the ball and he was the guy and

892
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: he was rolling. He was the first option on the

893
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: team and Doc believe in him. Then in February is

894
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: a change he had to come into just to this team.

895
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: One thing about to Bias. He steadily played his game.

896
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: He didn't go out there and say, okay, well I

897
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: was a man and the Clippers and I'm I'm on

898
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: my final year. My I'm on I'm on last year,

899
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: my contract. I gotta go out there and a numbers. No.

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00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: He just he even sacrificed himself even more. And sometimes

901
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, you know, just play the

902
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: way you played the Clippers. You know, he says, you know, Dad,

903
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: I just I played the game the right way and

904
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: just the way you taught me. So I gotta play

905
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: the game the right way. And he didn't play the

906
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: game where he was worrying about a contract. He just

907
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: went out there and played the team game. He tried

908
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: to do the best he could for his team to win.

909
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: And actually he played so unselfish when he came here

910
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: to the Sixers. That's a testimony that he you know,

911
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: he has the craft of the game, played the game

912
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: the right way to win. That's how he's built. And

913
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm more proud of him than that. How he's the leader.

914
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: You know, he bought trying to bring these guys together

915
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: as one and say, hey, listen, in order for us

916
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: to win, we all got to sacrifice our game. And

917
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: that's what he did. Basically, I appreciate that, but you

918
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: you still duck the commissions. That's confidential. That's confidential matter

919
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: though you know, I love you. No, he gets he

920
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: gets a vague he deserves. He knows what he deserved.

921
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: We we'll discussed that. He always shots to slide it

922
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: in on on the day. I probably get my first

923
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: pace of you trying to slide that they need that commission,

924
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: as he should. The whole thing is it's a blessing.

925
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: It's a blessing in a lot of different ways. One

926
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: main reason why Tobias did walk away the size of money.

927
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: He wanted to see a home that he fits in,

928
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, because he's been traded a couple of times,

929
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: and he wanted to basically to look at an organization

930
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: with the culture was right where everybody just want to

931
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: come together as one and win the championship. And for

932
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: him at this stage in his career, he wants to

933
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: win the championship. You don't want to be on the

934
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: rebuilding teams. You want to be on guys and all

935
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: selfish trying to get their numbers. He wants to be

936
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: on teams like everybody for for each other. Elson presented

937
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: that here to him and that's what Tobias wanted and

938
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: that's why we have to make up of this team

939
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: we have right now. Last question to Bias. We know

940
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: that there's high stakes betting that goes on between players

941
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: that shoot arounds and stuff like that. You have a

942
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: favorite story, yeah, yeah. During the playoffs, me and Mike Scott,

943
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: we would you know, playoff for d M. It's some

944
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: good for dam right there. So with me and Mike

945
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: Scott would beat and we would go through a three

946
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: point shooting drill where we probably get up about seventy

947
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: threes and whoever has the best record, like throughout all

948
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: fifteen spots gets to take the other persons for d

949
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: M so for the entire playoffs of the game, for

950
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: the entire playoffs. God, oh that's some money. That's some

951
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: money right there. So I remember taking Mike Scott, so

952
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna try to run that back this year for sure. Guys,

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00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: thanks so much. I really appreciate it. First time I've

954
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: talked to you, and I already love you guys, So congratulations,

955
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: this is an amazing story and and you deserve it all.

956
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We appreciate you. Our thanks again

957
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: to Tobias Harris and his father Terrell. What an awesome

958
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: story and we're so glad to bring it to you today.

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00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: Back to you. That was Dannil Revel went Tobias Harris.

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Speaker 1: Earlier in the show, we had Jason Sobel previewing the

961
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: British Open from a betting perspective, and so much more.

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Speaker 1: This has been the Favorites from The Action Network. Download

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Speaker 1: at Apple Podcasts, Rate, review, subscribe and subscribe we subscribe.

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Speaker 1: Action Network, and all your favorite podcast platforms. Until next time,

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Speaker 1: I love you,