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Speaker 1: What do you think We're all wrong? Once in a while,

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Speaker 1: anybody can make a mistake. Mistakes unacceptable here, Paul, I

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Speaker 1: am once in a while too. I nail the hell

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Speaker 1: out of mostly Well. You go to break and he goes,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you make me so mad. And

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Speaker 1: then he texted me the next day, I've been thinking

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Speaker 1: about it. I love you and I hate you. That

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Speaker 1: fifteen second SoundBite by Andy encapsulates PFW. He agreed with Christian,

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Speaker 1: call me the likable jerk. I think it was worse

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Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, I think it was. What they'll do

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Speaker 1: is they'll do something innocuous in their posts, but then

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Speaker 1: their screen name will be fred I after your mother

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Speaker 1: or something like that. I follow fred I after your mother.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. So I love college football. He has no

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Speaker 1: interest in it. The reason why I don't get into

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Speaker 1: college football in the fall is because I have what's

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Speaker 1: called a girlfriend. And this is Patriot's Unfiltered fueled by Duncan.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm still I'm still recovering from that rocket

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Speaker 1: crazy show, but that was an all time moment when

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Speaker 1: I've been here. I wish I could have been there

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Speaker 1: for that, because then I could have piped in and

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Speaker 1: been like, well, I guess that's why I'm single, because

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Speaker 1: I love college football. The team, team bar, team bar. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: it is Thursday here at Gillette Stadium, and it's a

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Speaker 1: full crew. It's Deuced, it's Tamara, it's Alex, it's Paul,

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Speaker 1: it's me, it's Matt and the booth and uh, I

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Speaker 1: that we're on TV and no one said anything, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: would have and dressed. That's behavior. Your dressed. You're not dressed.

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Speaker 1: I mean she means dressed. Yeah, well that's blind last

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Speaker 1: week you to put your shoes and socks on. Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's radio all right, um, but yeah it's Cleveland week here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah. I feel good about this one. Fred.

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Speaker 1: I don't often feel confident, but I think patriots are going. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We we got off the show and we were walking

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Speaker 1: and you were like, I'm I'm sure about this. What

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Speaker 1: was your tagline? Get even in Cleveland? Get Even in Cleveland?

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Speaker 1: I know I burned it on the ten to watch,

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Speaker 1: captioned one. I like, so, hey, get back to three

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Speaker 1: they better not. Thinks is that your key to the

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Speaker 1: don't tell us, stop the run. Tell us what makes

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Speaker 1: On Nelson's interception in particular, it wasn't even anyone taking

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Speaker 1: I think, And he looked up and he said the

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Speaker 1: camera was like looking right at him, not us. We'll

424
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Speaker 1: be up on the I was sitting Belichick the the

425
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Speaker 1: O nine one. You were you were taking notes something.

426
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 1: You went to your your your paper. I was like, hey,

427
00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 1: copious notes, hands folded on the desk, anything else. Before

428
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 1: we get to the calls and emails. I think we

429
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: gotta we have picks Toad on Cleveland and if the hurry,

430
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: Evan will be here after practice to let us Nil

431
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: Harry's back for the Bears. So Nikil Harry, I guess

432
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: has this game circled on his calendar? He confirmed? Is

433
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 1: that right? What is against the watching the commanders? Just

434
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 1: to be back No tho was the Bears Monday night game.

435
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: I misspoke. Yeah, oh the next next week? Yeah, well

436
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: look out, watch out? All right? What would you do? Yes?

437
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: And I'm being dead serious. How would you feel if

438
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: he went for like eight and a buck twenty and

439
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 1: two touchdowns? I'd have to revac. Would it bother you more? No? Oh,

440
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: it would bother me. It would bother me more because

441
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I never saw that, and it would

442
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: bother the training camp practices or whatever. We would bother

443
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: me a lot more. Now, it wouldn't bother me because

444
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 1: I just knew. I would know that no matter what

445
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: he does where he goes, he wasn't gonna do that here.

446
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: Like it was done a great way to go through life.

447
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: It just wasn't gonna have it was the right move,

448
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: no matter what. No, no, really, I mean, do you

449
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: ever think that that was gonna happen here? You know?

450
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 1: I think I don't think he'll ever catch I would

451
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: go into every season saying, Okay, this is gonna be

452
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna turn it around. Yeah, or and I just

453
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: gave up. It was never gonna happen here. He needed

454
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: a new place, you know, and who knows if it's

455
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: going to happen there either. But it just wasn't going

456
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,239
Speaker 1: to happen here. So if he if he has a

457
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: great career somewhere else, good for him. I mean I

458
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: was wondering why they couldn't have got it out of

459
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 1: him here? And what it does it look like like?

460
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: Is he like a contested catch monster? Now? And you

461
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: know what, would it bug you from the point they

462
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: weren't able to get to him or he just wasn't

463
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 1: putting his best effort here. No, they weren't able to

464
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: use him, right, they weren't able to get that out

465
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: of him. If he ends up turning into a really

466
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: good player, that would be that would bother me? Yeah, yeah,

467
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: why didn't we get it out of him? Yeah? Would

468
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 1: it make you feel worse though? If he was just

469
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: like this wide receiver who just run blocked the whole

470
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: game and was just steamrolling guys down the field, that

471
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't bother me, like he's flexing or just killing guys left.

472
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't wish Yeah, I don't wish you will,

473
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: but I would bug me if you all of a

474
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: sudden turned out to be a great receiver somewhere else

475
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: two games back from injury. I don't not too No,

476
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm not spilled. I don't have really any fear of

477
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: that happening. No. Yeah, well you just watched them enough.

478
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean, I don't want to

479
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: say it's the same thing as as Zappy, but it's

480
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: a similar thing where it's like, look, we go out

481
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: to practice, we sit there and we watch I mean,

482
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: guys who are good, you see, the guys are good,

483
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: and guys who don't do much. You see guys who

484
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: don't do much. Like I'm not expecting Bailey Zappy to

485
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: do things I didn't see this summer, just like I'm

486
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: not expecting to kill Harry to do things that I

487
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: didn't see for three summers or whatever, four summers of

488
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: watching them in the training camp. You know. Yeahikes, that

489
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: was a harsh comparison. Well you see, you know, you

490
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you know what I mean. Right

491
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: there he is, there's Zappy. All right, let's go to

492
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: the phones. I guess I will start with Todd North

493
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: Carolina on the ACE taket a hot line. What's up Todd? Hey, guys.

494
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: My prediction for the game tonight is as based on

495
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: the Paul Prittle theory that when you have two average

496
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: to Midland teams. You take the home team, and I

497
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: think Cleveland's probably gonna pull this out. I think it's

498
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: gonna be really close. But my feeling is there's you know,

499
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: you're playing gaft the Patriots, you always step up. I

500
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: don't care. Even if it's past the dynasty, you still

501
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: they still want to beat you. Right, So, and the

502
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: talent on the Cleveland team is pretty good. You're picking

503
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: Cleveland seriously, I am on bro Wow. Now I have

504
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: a good question for you guys going forward past this game,

505
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: because and into the winning streak, which two players, one

506
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: on offense one on defense need to bring their a

507
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: game for the rest of the year to really make

508
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: a difference. And my two are Mac Jones on the

509
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: offense because I think if he can bring his a game,

510
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: he's got enough tools that you'll be able to do things.

511
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: And then just Uche, I think we need to see

512
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: something from Ouche. I think if he can start flying

513
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: around and we up that his game, then I think

514
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: we've got some enough to I think I think I

515
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: think Mac Jones is obvious. I think Buche is a stretch.

516
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: I think you're really digging deep. There's a bit player. Yeah,

517
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, listen, if he turns out to

518
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: be like, you know, this great player, but that's not

519
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: going to happen. I don't think. I think you're digging deep.

520
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: I would just stick at and he's made a difference

521
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: just plays like every down though. I mean, josh uch

522
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: is playing like fifteen twenty snaps a game. It's hard

523
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: to think we need more of him on the field. Really,

524
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: So you want more, I'm sure I want more plays.

525
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need him to be out. I

526
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: just wanted to make plays. To me, it would be

527
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: Jude On maintaining Yeah, unlike last year, his maintaining his

528
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: strong level of play. Okay, well, I didn't want to

529
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: pick dude On because I thought he was already bringing

530
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: his A game. But yeah, I get what you're saying.

531
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: I think if every week the defensive battfield, the young

532
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: guys get a little bit better, just a little bit

533
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: better every week, I think to me, that's that's the

534
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: ingredient of success on defense. Yeah, well let's let's yeah,

535
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: let's see them match up against thanks time. You know,

536
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: a deep receiving corps and you got them coming up

537
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: and they'll be fine with this game. They'll be fine

538
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: with the next one. Let me know what happens in

539
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: November and December. Yeah, that's why I say by that time,

540
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: hopefully they're in full stride um George and Madison. New

541
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: Jersey writes, and do you guys think that all the

542
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: calls for Zappy to usurp Mac would be so loud

543
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: if Mac were playing better? No? Well, I mean I

544
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: think that goes a little bit to what we're saying. Answer.

545
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think that Mac was catching some flak,

546
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, before he got hurt, Like you know, I mean,

547
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: there were there were certainly people saying, oh, he hasn't

548
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: made the year two jump. I mean, if Mac had

549
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: been lighting it up until now, we'd be just, you know,

550
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: begging for him to get back. Mac is clearly farther

551
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: along than Zappy and the better quarterback overall. But is

552
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: Mac going to be the kind of quarterback that will

553
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: get you out of a two and three TD hole

554
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: against the Mahomes or Alan. I know it's early, but

555
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: my gut tells me he's not to get there. I

556
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: know quarterbacks. Although I never played football, I lived one

557
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: floor below Eli Manning in Hoboken for two years. Actually true,

558
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: and once rode in the elevator with Peyton, who I

559
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: didn't recognize, So this clearly makes me an expert. You

560
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: didn't recognize pet Hoboken, Freddy. Isn't that Arthur's? Yes, yes,

561
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: it's Arthur's. Have you ever gone to Arthur's and Hooken?

562
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: Great place? Is it? What is it? It was a

563
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: steak place. But not recognizing Peyton, like, I know, didn't

564
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: imagine you're much of a football He's pretty recognized. Yes,

565
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: unless he had like some woolen hat over could be too.

566
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: Maybe he like if you have on sunglasses and hat

567
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: and like something. Sure, well, I mean we were at

568
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: the hall, we saw boomer size, and there we knew

569
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: who it was, right, It's true. Thanks, thanks Dukes. Is

570
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: that boomer size? Paul? It's an inside joke my five

571
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: foot nothing? Those who know no, Um, let's see um.

572
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: Lots of emails about whether or not I would agree,

573
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: by the way, about mac Jones, like just to we

574
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: should probably talk about the guy's email. You took the

575
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 1: time to read it. Yeah, but I thought, okay, I

576
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of faith in the Patriots offense

577
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: coming back from you know, multiple school deficits, and I

578
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: think that you know that that's a problem for mac Jones.

579
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: Do you think that there their acknowledgement of pushing the

580
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: ball down the field is a way to try to

581
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: get to that point? Yep? You know, like it seems like,

582
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: you know, I saw them win the game that they

583
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: won Sunday a million times, you know, twelve really, but

584
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them win another way. I think with

585
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: the Patriots coaching staff did throughout the offseason, I think

586
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. A lot of people have

587
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: given them a lot of correct crap for it. I

588
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: think that they needed to find ways to get some

589
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: chunk plays and have the ability to score quicker so

590
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: when you're in a different kind of game, you're not

591
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: spending eight and a half minutes getting the one score

592
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: of the two school deficit, which is what they did

593
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: in those games that they never had a chance in

594
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: last year. And they needed to show a willingness to

595
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: do it, because again, if they were easy to defend

596
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: last year, the way to combat that is to be,

597
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, do different things so that teams don't know

598
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do on every down, you know, become

599
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: a little less easy to defend, and you have to show,

600
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: even if it's not successful, show the willingness to go

601
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: deep once in a while, you know, and now with

602
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: Thornton back, maybe you can actually be successful doing it. Yeah.

603
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean the speed that they drafted. I mean you

604
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: look up and down the draft. Everybody can run. I

605
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: mean from Cole Strange through Marcus Jones and you know,

606
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean all those guys are fast. Pierre Strong, I

607
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: guess now it's just a question of can you get

608
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: back back and translate it? And I think for me,

609
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: like that's why I'm kind of stuck. Like there's so

610
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: much analysis going on of the offense, and you know,

611
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: the Patricia thing and all that, but like they play

612
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: two games with their backups, Like it's hard for me

613
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: to really look at these last two games and be

614
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: like this is what they are. This to me is

615
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: like two lifeboat games where you're just trying to get

616
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: the win and not beat yourself, right, And so it's

617
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: hard to really judge where they are over the last

618
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: two weeks. You know. So once you get Mac back,

619
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: then you can start pressing that issue more and see

620
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: what they really are. But until he does, I think

621
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: that they're still in that lifeboat. I really wonder what

622
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Max's mindset is right now. Someone asked about that, like

623
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: where is he mentally dealing with the injury? And also

624
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: I guess you could say that Zappi fever situation and

625
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: they're like, that's a question for Mac. Yeah, well it is.

626
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: I mean that's a question for Matt. How you're gonna

627
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: ask Joe Judge how he's doing mentally, Like he's not

628
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: in his mind Like so when he when he does

629
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: come back, he is he pressed? You know when he

630
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: when he does come back, does he press and does

631
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: that hurt him or does he use this as motivation

632
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: and does it make him get better? I just for me,

633
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: it's clean up the mistakes. I think Mac was playing okay.

634
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Speaker 1: I just think he needs to clean up the mistakes.

635
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: And when we talked about him going out and getting

636
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: the the perspective from watching a couple of games, like,

637
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: I just hope he gets back to that that, you know,

638
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: not throwing terrible interceptions. I mean, their interceptions are going

639
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: to happen, Zappy hap, but you know it's the ones

640
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: where it's right to the guy. And there's been ones

641
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: that have been dropped and it was consistent, and I

642
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: think that's the biggest thing that he needs to clean

643
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: up to get back here and you know, get on

644
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: track and get rid of this dappy stuff. But in

645
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: terms of his mindset, I mean, based on what I've

646
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: seen in that guy, I think he wants to get

647
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: back a SAP. I think, well, I'm pretty sure of that.

648
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I I mean, I think he understands the

649
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: NFL and that you know, you can lose your job anyway,

650
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's injury or whatever. You know,

651
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: regardless of how much of this zappy stuff is kind

652
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 1: of overblown, I still think he hears that and he

653
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: wants to push things to get back, maybe even before

654
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: he should. That's where I think I hope he's taking

655
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: that personally. Yeah, well sure, I mean, you know, Michael Jordan,

656
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: how dare you play marginally? Well? Wait, Paul, what was

657
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: the thing that you taught me on Sunday? Hands up

658
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: or Paul up? Palms palms up? You have to kind

659
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: of jump in youth sports, that's as up. Well, the

660
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: youth sports coaches are always we're a palm's down team,

661
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: not a palms up like settled down patience, not what

662
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: are we doing juggling. Um. I also will say, yes,

663
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: I do want Mac Jones when he's back out there

664
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: to kind of limit the tone rovers But I also

665
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: say I kind of feel like the offensive line is

666
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: playing better now than they were. Yeah, that's what weird

667
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: beginning in a season. So I'm thinking a mixture with

668
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: a better offensive line maybe that'll help him out. So yeah,

669
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: so maybe watching from above and says, hey, these guys

670
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: aren't so bad. I think bringing Cannon in has kind

671
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: of settled things. Using him as the extra person, the

672
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: eligible person, you know, Um, that's help. I think Stevenson

673
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: has gotten better every week with Blitz pick up, um,

674
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: you know. So I think you're right. I think Cole strange,

675
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: you would imagine every game he's got, but I think

676
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: they've gotten better. And so I think that when Mac

677
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Jones is available and Brady to come back, that I'm

678
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: hoping that that could help him out too. I think

679
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: there's anything we've We've been talking a lot about it.

680
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: We get stopped, stack the box and stop, you know,

681
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: Chubb and Hunt. I mean, do you think there's anything

682
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: to be said talking about things that have developed since

683
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: Mac has been out? Stevenson great game last week continues

684
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: to ascend. Do you get to a point where you

685
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: feel like, hey, Stevenson might require a little box attention

686
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: from the defense, you know, and and maybe that can

687
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: help downfield if they get you know, less coverage heads,

688
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: especially downfield. I mean, I wonder if means something now,

689
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, does does does? This game and everybody's talking

690
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: about Zappie Mac, I feel like I'm going to Harrison

691
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: and Stevenson, but you know, does Harris's injury at this

692
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Speaker 1: point and Stevenson's Stevenson's kind of ascension a little bit?

693
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Speaker 1: Does that change the roles at all? I mean, it

694
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: still seemed like kind of Harris was the lead guy,

695
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, does does? Does? Does Stevenson take that over?

696
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: And does he become kind of the lead guy? I mean,

697
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: I think they're great together, but I just think if

698
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: Stevenson brings this threat of well, you know, we have

699
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: to consider this, well, I think they're you know, when

700
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: we're stacking once Harris is healthy, like, do you have

701
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: to change it up? It's working the way they do it.

702
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: You know, put Harrison to start, you know, and you know,

703
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: mix in Stevenson and as things start to roll, you

704
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: figure out. You know what styles working best? You know,

705
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I see no reason to really change that

706
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: up as long as Harris is healthy. I also liked

707
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: someone asked Bill this. I can't remember if it was

708
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: after the game or um the next day, but someone

709
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: asked hez Ramandre proved that he can be in every

710
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: down back and he said, there's no question about that

711
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: of course. All right. Yeah, so I think he's raved

712
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: about him a ton and that they do need to

713
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: lean on him heavily while Harris is gone. Like that's great,

714
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: But I do agree that why not use both of them?

715
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: Why not use both? Yeah? Um Bama Boom writes in

716
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: first time emailer found your podcasts after the Bucks game

717
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: and love the show. My question is do you think

718
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: people are overlooking the Browns matchup? I think this is

719
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: a serious test for the team and could see a

720
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: really close game this Sunday. Well, I definitely Deuce is

721
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: overlooking it. I am, I definitely am. I'm trying to

722
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: set them up to fail. No, I would never do so.

723
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: Mike is doing no. No. I just I just think

724
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna win this game. I mean, last week Lions

725
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: team is pretty good. I think this Patriot team will

726
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: come together and I think they've found something. Also, I

727
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: haven't watched a ton of the Cleveland Browns, but I

728
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Speaker 1: feel like the fact that the games that they've lost

729
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: have been by a total of six points, it's like

730
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: they could be undefeated right now, which is I did

731
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: not predict that, especially considering what's going on in their

732
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: quarterback room. I was like, Oh, they're not going to

733
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: win a game, but to see they could have could

734
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: be five and oh right now, it's like it is

735
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: a little shocking based on their season. I don't know

736
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Speaker 1: how you could feel great about saying that this one

737
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: would be easy. Right Every one of their games basically

738
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: has gone down to the last possession yep, and the

739
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: one that was a two score a game involved a

740
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: touchdown on the on the last play of the game

741
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: that you know, the Pittsburgh Thursday Night or there was

742
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: a fumble lateral play that that game was twenty three

743
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: seventeen I think until that play. So all the other games,

744
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 1: if they miss a field goal opening Day, they lose.

745
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: If they make a field goal last week against the Chargers,

746
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: they win. That's how every one of their games has been. Yeah,

747
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: but thinks it's all right. The Panthers, they just fired

748
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: their coach, Jets week two with Joe Flacco, Steelers are

749
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: on their next quarterback. The Falcons. The Falcons and the

750
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: Chargers without most of their stars, and Justin Herbert's playing

751
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: with Rid So some contexts we talk about everybody, are

752
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: we going to do this? Right? So now now we're

753
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: gonna say, Pittsburgh in Detroit, right, two wins combined, right, Like,

754
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. They've all been close. But I

755
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: just think the page no, no, Pins games haven't all

756
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: been close. Those are their wins. Pittsburgh in Detroit, Miami.

757
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: They got blasted against Miami, and they got blasted against

758
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: Baltimore in the fourth quarter, the best one of the

759
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: probably the best team in the conference. Okay, but you lost.

760
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: So so why we have all this like confidence that

761
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: it's going to be a blow I agree with you.

762
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: I think everyone of Cleveland's games has gone down to

763
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: the last play. I think the Patriots will beat him

764
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: by ten points. I hope you're right. I don't think

765
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: it's a blowout, but ten points in the NFL is

766
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: a blowout, all right, Then they'll blow them out. I

767
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: mean there's one spread this week. That's more than ten

768
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: points one. Yeah, out of the fourteen game, nobody haats

769
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: Jacobi per Set more than you, Paul, So I think

770
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: he stinks. But it's a freend's point. All they do

771
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: is run the ball, and they find a way to

772
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: score points. It's one of those rare teams that finds

773
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: a way to get in the mid mid to high

774
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: twenties without throwing the ball and matching up with us, Like,

775
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: I mean, there's I think their success is a credit

776
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: to their running backs also, like a really great offensive line,

777
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: and just our defensive line has not really blown me

778
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: away this year. That's that's fair. That's fair. Well, I

779
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: think I think you're right overall, but I think they're

780
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: getting better week by week as well. Why do you

781
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: judge though, I'd love to see Lawrence Guy back. I

782
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: think that would really help. But like last week, they

783
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: had a shut out. Their defense was outstanding. I just

784
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: watched the game, Paul. Last week, they were outstanding. I

785
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: can't say enough good things about the defense last week. Yeah,

786
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: the previous two weeks were not improvements. I just watched

787
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: the game, right, So I'm asking you what you're judging

788
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: it on it just what I see. So what was

789
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: the improvement that you saw? That's what I'm asking. I

790
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: just see guys. If guys aren't out of position, I

791
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: think I think were they out of position? In the

792
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: Miami they're playing much more solid defense. But based on like,

793
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying, my eyes, But you're saying

794
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: they're improving, my eyes, they're improving based off of what

795
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking, my eye from what I see

796
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: from the Miami game to the to the Baltimore game. Yes,

797
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: you told me that against Miami they were great defensively,

798
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: Well not again, and they got thirty seven to said,

799
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: I said, they did a great job minimizing the yards

800
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: after catched by guys like and then two weeks later

801
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: they gave up thirty seven Baltimore. I thought they did

802
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: a good job in that game. That right, But then

803
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: you said they've improved. So two weeks later they get

804
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: up thirty seven. Was that an improvement over Miami? What

805
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: was the running totals in that game against Baltimore? Yeah,

806
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: you have two hundred yards. Yeah, but when they get

807
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: up another two hundred yards the next week against Green Bay. Yeah,

808
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: but you have to look at it in context, it

809
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: wasn't okay, So they didn't improve. I think they are.

810
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: I think they are. Last week they're not. They're not

811
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: getting gashed the way they were. She went out to

812
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: here to go to practice. Yeah, they're getting Last week,

813
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: they did not get gashed. I will agree with you

814
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: they I think last week was a tremendous defensive effort.

815
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: They did not get gashed. In the running game. They

816
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: gave golf absolutely nothing. They would dominant. Yeah, but the

817
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: previous two weeks that wasn't the case. I can just

818
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: tell you that I'm seeing guys playing better. Guys playing

819
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: better last week. I agree, No, every week. It's I

820
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: just don't understand how you comment that based on those

821
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Speaker 1: two others. Was just based on the numbers, Paul, It's no,

822
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: It's based on the performance. Yeah, this is what I'm

823
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: asking you. What what did you see? I'm asking you

824
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: what did you see besides like guys lining up right,

825
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm seeing guys making plays, not getting pushed around

826
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: like they were, you know earlier. So I'm telling you

827
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: they're getting better. Was my one. God Shaws, you know,

828
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: I like I said, I wish a guy was in there,

829
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: but I think god Shaw's playing well. I think, you know,

830
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: the problem before was linebackers weren't really helping out. They

831
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: weren't filling in behind. That's starting to get better last week,

832
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: I would agree, you know, I think I can't argue

833
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: with that's starting to get better. But I think the

834
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: guys up front, you know, Deuce's guys on the line

835
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: are playing pretty well last week. Outstanding. Yeah, I totally

836
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: agree with you. I just don't agree on the Baltimore

837
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: and Green Bay games. I don't think they played well

838
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: defensively in those house. I know, I mean, and and

839
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, I but Baltimore though, I just

840
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 1: they got Lamar. I mean, that's why I like this.

841
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Take out Lamar's numbers, and I

842
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: mean you can't. It was still really bad. I know

843
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: you hadn't take them out. I know you can't take

844
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: out the numbers, but you know, that's tough, it's unique.

845
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: It's hard to judge the whole defense off of Lamar.

846
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: Lamar's a lot of people, and this is kind of

847
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: what my point is, Like, this is the only reason why,

848
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: like I kind of snooped up at Mike, who was

849
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: downplaying Cleveland's at a quosity. We can sit there and

850
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: tell you everybody's you know, it was Joe Flacco against

851
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: the Jet. Yeah, they stink. And when you have played

852
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't stink, you've looked bad, right like it

853
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: was Lamar Jackson. Okay, I'll make sure that we don't

854
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: play any good quarterbacks that can make plays so the

855
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: defense can pitch shutouts. This week is gonna this is

856
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: right exactly. He's good. You couldn't match up. That's fine.

857
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: I don't think that this is probably gonna be. There's

858
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a time when you're gonna face other

859
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who were good, and I hope by then they're

860
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: making strides and well, you don't think you'll face a

861
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: quarterback as good as Lamar Jack's not that style. I mean,

862
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 1: I think I think Allen who was a hundred times

863
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: better than Josh Allen, but Aaron Rodgers. I mean, they

864
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: did all right, that's another MV do all right. This

865
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: is my point that teams scored way more points than

866
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: they normally score. They did all right, Okay, I mean

867
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: we could just say they well, okay, I mean he

868
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: made some throws, but I mean that's another MVP. Aaron

869
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: Rodgers did not make anything. He thought it was the

870
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: run game. Yes, they done. It was not that nothing

871
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: to do with Aaron Rodgers, I know. But what is

872
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: saying Aaron Rodgers. Are we talking about defense or just

873
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: like Jack Jones. No, but Aaron Rodgers didn't beat them.

874
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: They did a good job against Aaron Right, And why

875
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: do you think that they get up so many yards

876
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: rushing because they were focused on stopping Aaron rod exactly.

877
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: And you don't have to worry about that against some

878
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: other teams who can't do anything to beat you. That

879
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: was like last week. That was the choice that they

880
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: made in that game. That was the game plan. We're

881
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna sacrifice rushing yards and make sure that

882
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: we don't let I just don't tell me that allowing

883
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: a team that averages sixteen points a game twenty seven

884
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: is good defense. That's all I ask. Well, and that's

885
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: all I'm asking only twenty four. Yeah, and if not

886
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: for a drop touchdown passing with two minutes left, it

887
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: would have been thirty one. Right. You don't think they

888
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: have other drops. They didn't do anything to stop that play, correct, Yeah,

889
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: I think the Patriot I think the defense is getting

890
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: better every week. I really do. Well, all right, I

891
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: understand that you believe it. I'm just asking you to

892
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: explain why from what I see. Just like guys making cake,

893
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: I can just use the force two guys, just like

894
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: make stuff up guys. I see it what I sent.

895
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: I see dugger getting better every every week. Last week

896
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: I saw a defense that played in an entirely different

897
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: way than they did the previous two games, and they

898
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: completely snuffed out what I think is a really good offense.

899
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: I would give that as a mic argument against me

900
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: and say, I think the Lions are pretty good on

901
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: an offense, and they made them look pretty bad. Yeah,

902
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 1: that to me is an improvement defensively. And I think

903
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: I think in week one they couldn't have done that.

904
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: I think they've been getting better every week. Okay, they

905
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: couldn't have done it anything. And I think, you know

906
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: when they couldn't have done it in week three or

907
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: four either. And I think part of it is, like

908
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: I said earlier, Steve Belichick and Gerard Mayo understanding, Okay,

909
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: who are who do we have on? You know what

910
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: you do when you don't really have anything tangible? You

911
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: go on. You go on things that are completely subjective.

912
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: I think it's Steve Belichick and Gerard May understand. Yeah,

913
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: I can't argue. I can't argue that Paul Paul. I

914
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: can't argue. I can't argue with Paul makes no idea.

915
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: Paul makes fun of all the stats, geeks. Unless he

916
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: was making fun, I'm not making I'm not giving you

917
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: any stats. I'm giving you performance. That's it's the other

918
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: team moved the ball at will and score points. That's all.

919
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: That's not at you think green Bay you move the

920
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: ball at will from the second half on, yes, okay,

921
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: but not the first half. They got off to a

922
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: slow start offensively in the first half. Why the Patriots

923
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: defense played well in the first half. I said, go

924
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: back and listen to the post. And last week they

925
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: put a game together. We're both halfs they played. So

926
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: they're getting better. They're getting better. You told me they

927
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: got better in the green Bay game. I think they

928
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: were better in green Bay then they were the week before, right, yes,

929
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: they were, So they're getting better. They were, but they

930
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: weren't better than they were against Pittsburgh. Well Pittsburgh stinks, Okay,

931
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean I do take some things at the consideration.

932
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: Who I think they were better than I think they

933
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: were better against green Bay than they were against Baltimore.

934
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: I do, Okay, I do evidence of getting better. And

935
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: I think they were better from green Bay to Baltimore.

936
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: I don't think that the Baltimore and Green Bay games.

937
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: But did they get They weren't better in the Baltimore

938
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: or Green Bacon and they were against Miami. Did they

939
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: get better after Baltimore and after Baltimore, Yes, I'd have

940
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: to say, and they got better after that. But they're

941
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: getting better, but they got out, but they got worse

942
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: from Miami in Pittsburgh to Baltimore and green Bay. They

943
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: got worse in those two games from the first two games.

944
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: Then they bounced back and got better. Okay, I'm like

945
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: I said, I'm I'm gonna I'm sticking to my guns.

946
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: I think this defense is getting better. I think the

947
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: coaches are understanding who they are. I think they're putting

948
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: him in the positions. You know, this guy does this well,

949
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: he doesn't do that well, Let's not put him in

950
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: that position anymore. They're finding out what works for the

951
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: personnel that they have week by week. And I think

952
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: I think it's getting better and by the time they

953
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: played Josh Allen, maybe maybe maybe they'll be able to

954
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: put up a fight hopefully maybe. Yeah, maybe, though I won't,

955
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: I'll stop hijack on this show. No, let's I think

956
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: it's good for the video, right, we need we need

957
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: a little yeah, a little little drama, little fireworks. It's

958
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: it's fine, Yeah, it's you know, I still haven't found

959
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: out why, but I'll let it go. Well, I mean,

960
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: I just don't rely on numbers. I look at at

961
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: what I keep telling me. You think the coaches are

962
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: putting guys in positions to see like, how about an exam?

963
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: Don't need to remember about an example? I remember last

964
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: year guys would just like out of position, like just

965
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, big running place again, how about an example,

966
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: I like, I don't have like it in front of me.

967
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: I just like you said, I look at the whole game,

968
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: and I just remember guys with their backs to the

969
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: play because they're guessing wrong or they're you know, and

970
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: just being kind of like Jawan Bentley shooting a gap

971
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: and having the ball go by him. Yeah, that that's

972
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: that's that's an example. Okay, So then I can use

973
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: an example of Dugger, you know, shedding three blockers to

974
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: make a tackle for loss right, But is that coaching?

975
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: He's in the right position, He's he's there to make

976
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: the play. You know, he smells like he's being coached up.

977
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: He's like, this is what's happening here, you know, reading

978
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: the play and recognizing it and reacting. I think there's

979
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: something too coaching there, but also putting the right guys

980
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: in the right position to make plays. You know, you know,

981
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: you can't say Dugger's not improving. I think Dougger's a

982
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: good player. Yeah. I didn't say anything about Tugger, but

983
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: he's Judean is playing well. You know, I think, you know,

984
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: the defensive player of the week this week, you know,

985
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: first time this year. He's getting better. You know, you're

986
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Fred. I mean I think, I think surprise,

987
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: I think takes, I think the Pau's point. There have

988
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: been up and downs with a lot of elements, but overall,

989
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: I think that's what you would Listen. I said it's

990
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: a perfect game. I think it was good. I think

991
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: Sunday was outstanding. I don't know how many different times

992
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: I can tell you how impressed I was with the defense.

993
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: On Sunday, I spent my whole hour with felgrad Mas telling.

994
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: All I said is I think they're getting better, and

995
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: you're saying, no, they're not, because they got better Sunday, Fred,

996
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: like this, like incremental improvement that you're talking about, I

997
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: disagree with. I'm sorry that I don't see it the

998
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: same way. Okay, you do. I'm sorry. I don't understand

999
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: what the defensive game plan is because I don't know

1000
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: enough about that to credit the coaches for putting guys

1001
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: in positions to hide their weaknesses. I don't know what

1002
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: they I don't know anything that they've to do that.

1003
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: I believe every game they go in with a game plan. No,

1004
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: I do too, I just don't know what it is

1005
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: and when it will and you obviously do you know.

1006
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: So I can't argue with you. You're you're talking about

1007
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: something completely subjective that I can't quanta. I don't understand it,

1008
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: so you know more about it than I do. What

1009
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: do you want me to tell you? Okay? I mean

1010
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: that's fair. I mean I can't. I can't. I can't

1011
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: make it any play that When you started talking about

1012
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: Belichick and Mayo putting guys in positions more effectively than

1013
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: they did last year. I can't argue with you. I

1014
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: can't tell you I'm talking about. I can't tell you're wrong.

1015
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: I have no idea I'm talking about as a season,

1016
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: go right. I can't and I can't argue with that

1017
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: because I don't have anything tangible to point to. I

1018
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: asked for some examples. You didn't have any. We'll move on.

1019
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I can go and list all the good

1020
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: plays this year. Is that what you want? No? But like,

1021
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: is a good play like Matthew jude On stripped Jared Goff,

1022
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: Is that's because of like Gerard Mayo and Steve Belichick

1023
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: putting in a position to succeed. He made a great play.

1024
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: But they're not putting jude On in and every play,

1025
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, like he's what he's doing, Like what sixty

1026
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: the snaps in that game he did? Yeah, you know,

1027
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: So there's some thinking behind that. Okay, So that's why

1028
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: I said I thought the defense was better Sunday. Okay,

1029
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: But there's some thinking. But there is no evidence of

1030
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: these things that you're talking about going on in the

1031
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: previous two games. I think there is. They didn't win

1032
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: that you know they didn't shut down a team like

1033
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: they did on Sunday, but I think there is evidence

1034
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: of guys figuring it out and getting better. I really do, well, Paul,

1035
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: how do you feel about them carrying that performance over

1036
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: into next week? Though? I mean, that's not the heart

1037
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: of it. You don't feel like they're gonna me. I

1038
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: went down, I fell for the tailpipe last year. I

1039
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: think it'll be fine this week because you're playing another

1040
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: team that can't do that. But eventually you're going to

1041
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: see good quarterbacks when you have to worry about both things.

1042
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: And then I worry. Yeah, And like I said, by then,

1043
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any chance they could stop Buffalo zero.

1044
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: Fred obviously has hope that they'll be better by then,

1045
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: right right, I don't. Right now, there's no way they

1046
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: would be Buffalo And maybe by then they haven't improved enough.

1047
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: Even by then, they'll be borrowing a rash of injuries.

1048
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: They ain't slowing Buffalo down. No, that's I look more

1049
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,239
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Speaker 1: we'll see, there's still time. Thanks Leon. All Right, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to a break because Evan's back from practice,

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Speaker 1: I had to listen to his system quarterback, it's all

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Speaker 1: dancin dunk. He's an average. Those people are out there

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Speaker 1: have been disproven. You know those people, Yes, and they've

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Speaker 1: I don't care about the wall. Fifteen and twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of people saying that, Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: not that good, he's just a game man. He might

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Speaker 1: have gone away. You'd be surprised, I really think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: especially in your chamber. I can imagine. I'm not surprised

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Speaker 1: that you heard it. I just don't. I just don't

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Speaker 1: think that was very prevalent. I think there was, like

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Speaker 1: you know Max Kellerman's and you know Eric Skellvinos. I

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Speaker 1: I could do it you away, I could do it

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Speaker 1: my way. It doesn't matter. I could do it. It's

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Speaker 1: the same argument I used when I get into it

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Speaker 1: day dot Com. Well it's that time. Evan is back

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Speaker 1: from practice. It's a catchy jingle in the video feed.

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Speaker 1: We're all just yea and looking at our phones. So

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Speaker 1: Evan give us the four one one. Another day and

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Speaker 1: another day of perfect attendance on the fifty three man

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Speaker 1: roster for the Patriots. Everybody practiced in some capacity yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Even Damien Harris was listed as limited. Mac Jones limited

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Speaker 1: again yesterday. Looks like he's doing the same things or

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Speaker 1: similar things out there Todaynee brace on, flip card on

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01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: this flappy flapping around, flapping around, so you know, um,

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Speaker 1: no lower pads today, just shells and shorts or sweats

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Speaker 1: or whatever they feel like wearing. So perfect attendants on

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Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster. Little Jordan Humphrey is back

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Speaker 1: in the building. Not sure he ever really left. He

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Speaker 1: had a locker in the locker room yesterday and he

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Speaker 1: was back out there at practice today. Kicker Tristan Viscayano

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Speaker 1: missing from the practice squad. So if you added up

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Speaker 1: connect the dots, sounds like Viscayano has lost a spot

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad and little Jordan Humphrey has taken

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Speaker 1: the spot. Okay, sorry, yeah, backup, kicker. Okay, folks, been

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Speaker 1: great and uh overcast today out the overcast not raining yet,

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Speaker 1: but they are projecting rain later on in practice, and

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Speaker 1: my understanding is that the team will be staying out

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Speaker 1: there for practice in the rain if it does indeed rain.

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Speaker 1: So unlike last week when we went inside the bubble,

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Speaker 1: no no bubble in the rain today? Yeah. Was there

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Speaker 1: a large media contingency or it was good media contingency.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are coming for this

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Speaker 1: quarterback thing for the end. They just want what we're

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Speaker 1: watching right now on NBC Sports Boston, Mac Jones throwing

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Speaker 1: the football to some equipment manager or something like that,

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Speaker 1: not to pick on the guy catching the ball, just saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not to a receiver and it's against air.

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Speaker 1: But this is enough for people right now. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: when you combine the media being interested in what Max's

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Speaker 1: gonna do, and you know, the overcast weather in shells,

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Speaker 1: what would you say the mood is I would say

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Speaker 1: the mood is a little bit shoulder pats ancy fancy,

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Speaker 1: because I think that this quarterback. I keep calling it

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Speaker 1: a thing because I can't really think. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to call it a controversy because I think that's going

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Speaker 1: way too far, So let's call it a thing. I

1349
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: think that some people last night, just a little inside baseball,

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Speaker 1: we waited quite a while for mister Zappi to come

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Speaker 1: to the podium after locker room closed, and I think

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Speaker 1: there are some feelings out there that are you know,

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Speaker 1: let's see what happens here. Let's let's get to Sunday.

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Speaker 1: And I always wonder, like, what's the message that Belichick

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Speaker 1: is giving the team from week to week? And we

1356
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: know that after the twenty nine nothing when you know,

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Speaker 1: he was in pretty good mood, you know, after the

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Speaker 1: game on Monday, even you know yesterday day, he was

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01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: a pretty good move. But I'm sure he's trying to

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Speaker 1: level set his team, making sure that nothing in that game,

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: you know, gets carried over in terms of cockiness, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure that he's making sure that this is

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01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: you know, we're still not that good. Yeah, we still

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 1: have a long way to go. It's a new kind

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01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: of team too. I think he's got to push the

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Speaker 1: right buttons. But I just observation real quick is we're

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Speaker 1: showing some of the practice. Of course they go right

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Speaker 1: away from it, but it seemed to me like Mac

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Speaker 1: had his shoulder pads on the other two guys just

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Speaker 1: had kind of shells underneath. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's that seems like a weird Mac thing to me,

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Speaker 1: like something he would do where he's like, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: wearing my pats today. Yeah, maybe just that's something something

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Speaker 1: that's something that I wonder too. You know, he hasn't

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01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: played in a game in a couple of weeks, so

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Speaker 1: how much has he been wearing the shoulder pads, So

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Speaker 1: if he's trying to gear it back up, maybe throwing

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Speaker 1: in the pads like Brady would always throw in the

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Speaker 1: pads right, like even in the off season in his

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Speaker 1: backyard you see the TV twelve stuff, and he'd be

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Speaker 1: in full shoulder pads because that's what you play. That's

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01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: a point, yeah, you know't playing shells. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's significant. I mean, I think it says something about

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Speaker 1: I mean, things seem like they're definitely ramping up and

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Speaker 1: and he's maybe making some strides to make sure. Listen,

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Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm the coaches, I don't start Mac

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Speaker 1: unless he can run around and avoid the rush. If

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Speaker 1: he's limited anyway in that respect, Yeah, I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 1: not playing him, but just have a little that's just

1390
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Speaker 1: me like a little team game of tag, and like

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Speaker 1: if he can't get away, then you know you're out.

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Speaker 1: If you can win tag. Right now, it's like old

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Speaker 1: school yeahs to wrench all right? Any other anything else

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01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: you want to add Evan before just on those lines.

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Speaker 1: I hate to be a body language doctor, but just

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Speaker 1: based off of his look, just how he's throwing the ball,

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Speaker 1: how he's carried himself, it's different than what we saw

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Speaker 1: last week. What does that mean anything? I have no

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Speaker 1: idea what. I guess we'll find out on Sunday. But

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Speaker 1: it's different in terms of like his focus right, Like

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Speaker 1: you can kind of see that Mac, that Macy back

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Speaker 1: out there where he's kind of got that that confidence

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01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: in that swagger back a little bit and isn't just

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Speaker 1: kind of limping around out there and going through the motions.

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01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: So I definitely think that he feels closer, and whether

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Speaker 1: it's this week or next week or whatever, I guess

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01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,919
Speaker 1: we'll ultimately be a probably a Belichick. So Zappy talked yesterday,

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Speaker 1: which means the quarterback you know, the mandatory quarterback talk.

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Speaker 1: You know, press conference is done, so you know they

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Speaker 1: don't have to Mac doesn't have to talk this week,

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01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: and if he starts, they could say, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: at the time Wednesday, you know he wasn't ready, but

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Speaker 1: now he's ready and he's our starter. Yeah, I mean limited.

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Speaker 1: I mean tomorrow's injury report is always an interesting moment

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Speaker 1: if they're gonna roll anybody out. I mean two weeks

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Speaker 1: ago they did rule Mac out, but I think last

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Speaker 1: two geek he's doubtful. Um, so we'll see. Maybe he

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Speaker 1: gets to questionable on Friday and then and then he's

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Speaker 1: got a chance. It could be a big week for

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Speaker 1: the Saturday downgrade. Oh yeah, because it's travel if you know, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'll get that people. If people don't know when you're

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Speaker 1: the traveling team, if a player doesn't travel, you have

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Speaker 1: to downgrade him to out that Saturday. You can't wait

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Speaker 1: until the Sunday report. You have to tell everybody that

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Speaker 1: the player didn't travel and thus he's out. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: spoke to Zappy yesterday, like you said, and a couple

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Speaker 1: of questions. You know that the media is going to

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Speaker 1: come right at him and be like, so you started

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Speaker 1: on Sunday or what? And he was asked, you know,

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Speaker 1: are you preparing to be the starter? You know, what's

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Speaker 1: sort of the vibe? What are they kind of asking

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Speaker 1: you to do at practice this week? And all he

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Speaker 1: would say was taking advantage of the reps they're giving

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Speaker 1: me and doing trying to help the team. However, I

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Speaker 1: can you know things like that? And I thought, and

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Speaker 1: the good Lord willing right. A couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: I would say, I think it was probably after Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: after Mac's original injury. He gave a more convincing answer

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Speaker 1: of you know, I always prepare to be the starter

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Speaker 1: even when I'm not going to be the starter type

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Speaker 1: of answer. This week, it was just taking the reps

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Speaker 1: they're giving me. So I don't know. I think that

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01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: there is a little bit going on there that Mac

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Speaker 1: is trying to creep back in. Okay, I wish you

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01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: were there to ask him what the mood was. That

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Speaker 1: would have probably been you could have gotten out of him,

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01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: probably Billy. What was the mood? Oh yeah, somebody asked

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01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: him if Mac was taking reps at practice and he's like,

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Speaker 1: that's a question for coach Beligian. Nope, nope, not getting

1450
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 1: in trouble. All right, eight five five Passive Hotline. We'll

1451
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Speaker 1: take some more calls and emails before pick start in

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Speaker 1: a few moments. We'll start with Sean and Vancouver. What's

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Speaker 1: up Sean? Hey, fred, I got a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: One question for Evan. I really like your polo shirt.

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01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking on the Thank You pat store and I

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Speaker 1: can't really figure out what exactly which one end is though.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can said it's a Tommy

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Speaker 1: Bahama take that guy on social media attacks her outfit

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Speaker 1: with the with the pat Patriot logo. Yeah, is a gift.

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Speaker 1: You look fantastic. I have to ask, who are you wearing?

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Speaker 1: Tommy b Okay, there is a Tommy Bahama one on there,

1462
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: so I look. The other thing I want to talk

1463
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: about is moving prod it running back Stevenson I think

1464
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: gives the Patriots a better look when even though I

1465
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: like Harris, I think he's great, great, you know, power

1466
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: back and he hits the holes hard. It's just I

1467
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 1: think the Patriots are less predictable with Stevenson being the

1468
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: lead back because you can't really determine if they're going

1469
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: to be doing some play action or they're they're going

1470
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 1: to be running or passing at that point where you know,

1471
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: you see Stevenson at times sometimes even run from the shotgun,

1472
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: where Harris wouldn't do that. So I think for that

1473
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: reason you find that maybe there's less pressure coming at

1474
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,919
Speaker 1: at zappy because the blitz isn't as strong since they're

1475
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: not defenses aren't really determining right at the look what's

1476
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: going to happen? What do you think? I don't know

1477
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: the amount of times that you know, you know, Harris

1478
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: first Stevenson out of the shotgun and there's an inside

1479
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: handoff or a draw something like that. I don't know

1480
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: the numbers, but it doesn't seem like, you know, Stevenson

1481
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: right now is a big threat to catch the ball yet,

1482
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, not like James White was. Yeah, downfield, I

1483
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: mean some little like slip out and you know, check

1484
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 1: down kind of stuff, but yeah he does. He's lined

1485
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: up wide a couple of times though, right maybe a

1486
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 1: few ye his splits are fifty seven forty three pass

1487
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: right in favor of the pass. So he's been on

1488
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: the field more for passing plays than running plays Harris.

1489
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: That would not be the case with last year. Harris

1490
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: was sixty percent run on the snaps that he played,

1491
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: so definitely more involved in the passing. He definitely more

1492
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: involved on third down. He's already outsnapped Harris all last

1493
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 1: year on third down in the first five weeks of

1494
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: the season. So you're using Stevenson a lot more in

1495
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 1: passing game situations. I think the one time where other

1496
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: than screens, because he caught that screen last week against

1497
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: the Troy, made like three guys missed. It was a

1498
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: good play. He had an angle route over the middle

1499
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: against Green Bay where he was a shoe string tackle.

1500
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: He was really close to breaking it, and I think

1501
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: that was probably the best route that I've seen him run,

1502
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: Like shake a guy at the top of the route,

1503
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: get yourself open and get into a potential, you know,

1504
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 1: space opportunity. He just got tackled. You know. People have

1505
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 1: said it, and I'm probably Bill would agree. He's definitely

1506
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 1: established himself as an every down back he can be

1507
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: that well. It was a huge area of emphasis in

1508
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: the offseason was thanks to make sure that they were

1509
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: throwing with Harris and Stevenson on the field more than

1510
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: they did last year, to be less predictable. And I

1511
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: don't really, I mean, it's great if you can get

1512
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: those guys involved as receivers obviously, you know, I guess,

1513
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: especially a guy like Stevenson, you get him in space,

1514
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 1: that slant that Evan's talking about against Green Bay would

1515
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: looked like it was a hair away from being a

1516
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: really big play. But I don't. I'm not as worried

1517
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: about them catching the ball as I am that they're

1518
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: throwing the ball when they're on the field, and I

1519
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: think they have done that more this year, and the

1520
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: numbers for Stevenson obviously back there. Yeah, I mean, just

1521
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: even some of the early snaps, like in the second

1522
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: half where they went, you know, six ozl Andy brought

1523
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: cannon on play action, you know, trying to hit guys.

1524
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it seems like they're or whatever.

1525
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: I just I'm curious what it's going to look like

1526
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: now with with Harris presumably out. Yeah, you know, how

1527
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: do they how do they divvy up the roles? We've

1528
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: been talking. Yeah, I mean you want Stevenson to be

1529
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: available in December, so yeah, you have to think about that.

1530
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to give them thirty five carries,

1531
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, until Harris gets better. You have to figure

1532
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: it out. I mean it must be attempting with with

1533
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: you know what you've seen from Cleveland's run defense. But

1534
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's why I'll be a little disappointed.

1535
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean, no offense to J. J. Taylor, but you know,

1536
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 1: just you drafted those two guys. I would love to

1537
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 1: see one of those two rookies, you know, just get

1538
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 1: a chance get their feet wet. I mean, we've seen

1539
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: the success that some of the rookies have had getting

1540
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: their feet wet, Marcus Jones as an example lately, you know,

1541
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: getting slowly involved a little bit, would be great to

1542
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: get you know, one of those guys. Just I mean,

1543
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,560
Speaker 1: even if it like we said yesterday, Harris with the

1544
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: early down stuff, just don't fumble all or else you

1545
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: might not see the ball again until next year. Yeah,

1546
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: it's a I think it's funny though, because the predictability

1547
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,879
Speaker 1: thing is always something that I hear. But their numbers

1548
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: are actually terrific. With Damien Harris even as predictable as

1549
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: he was last year on the field because the play action,

1550
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: because teams are expecting run because he's sixty percent run,

1551
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 1: and then you hit him with the play action, and

1552
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 1: even though he's not catching the ball or really a

1553
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: big factor in the passing game, they were really efficient

1554
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: off of play actions. So in some ways the tell

1555
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: can work in their favor because everybody's selling out against

1556
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: the run and then you hit him with the fake

1557
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it goes over their heads.

1558
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: But I hear people when they say that it's a

1559
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: little bit predictable, But I think there is a little

1560
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: bit of a method to the madness in the early

1561
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: down sequencing Mike's and Puerto Rico. What's up, Mike? How

1562
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: are you doing? How's everybody doing? Today's great good? I

1563
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: have to agree. I see Romandi out there, and I

1564
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody else that's the same thing. Whenever

1565
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: I see him get the ball. The first thing that

1566
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,839
Speaker 1: comes from ears like Ron wrong run and the affiliate

1567
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: they just have to move around and just thinks a

1568
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: lot more aggressive and assertive when he's out there. Um

1569
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: just trying to get down fields and make them most

1570
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: out of every single yard, and now you're starting to

1571
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: see hesitation from the from the defensive players that are

1572
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 1: coming over to head. But the one thing that I

1573
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 1: want to and I'm glad Evan is there because I

1574
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: send um, I don't know a tone that I can't

1575
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: really um pin down when he says, I don't know

1576
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: what but what people see out there regarding Bailey versus Max,

1577
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: And the more I see of Bailey and Paul and

1578
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: Evan may laugh at this, like the more I think

1579
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: there's something about the way the team operates, the way

1580
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: the the offense looks, is there's something specific, Dude, do

1581
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: we see practice every day? We don't, But there's just

1582
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: a feeling out there when he is playing that just

1583
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 1: lose a little bit more efficient, a little bit more effective,

1584
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 1: like things are going the way that they're supposed to,

1585
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: and there's not that sense of dread of that just

1586
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: don't make a mistake, Just don't make a mistake, Whereas

1587
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: in the last couple of games from MAC, I've been

1588
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: looking at it and you know, it's like, just don't

1589
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, just play safe, just be smart, just be smart.

1590
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: And I just don't feel like I don't I can't

1591
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: qualify it, but I just don't have those thoughts running

1592
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: through my head when I see Bailey out there. How

1593
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: did how did you feel about Mac last year? Though?

1594
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,560
Speaker 1: I mean, have you you've just the last couple of

1595
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: games is what you've have made you lost confidence in

1596
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: Mac and made you feel like you just want him

1597
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: to avoid mistakes. Um. I thought there was a lot

1598
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 1: of managing um obviously at the beginning of the season,

1599
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 1: not letting him throw the ball along and stuff like that.

1600
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: And I don't know if if McDaniels or the team

1601
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: ever actually came out at any pointy time and admitted

1602
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,839
Speaker 1: it that they were throwling him down, like just limiting

1603
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: his options. But then maybe he just got a little

1604
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: too too loose, I don't know, maybe a little too

1605
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: confident with the offense or confidence in in his ability.

1606
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: But um, it just started at the end of last

1607
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 1: year even at the beginning of this year, like I

1608
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 1: just don't feel comfortable with him out there. And I

1609
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: don't know if it might be the poppy with fan

1610
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 1: or well there I'm with you. I just how can

1611
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: you say thanks that they manage the games last year

1612
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: for Mac and that's why he was less turnover prone,

1613
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: but then not say they're managing the game for Baylor,

1614
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: right right. It disappointed me. I think there was a

1615
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: chance that we could have got an even explosion. No,

1616
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: but I just I think I think max Max mistakes

1617
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: this year are you know, a result of you know,

1618
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: making more chance, making more plays, make it, Yeah, trying

1619
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: to make more plays. Some I think some of them

1620
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: too are some of them are Some of them are bad,

1621
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, but I point stands trying to get it downfield.

1622
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's something they had to do.

1623
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 1: I just want to see what's it looked like with Thord.

1624
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 1: The first pick in the Baltimore game was really bad.

1625
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: That was the when the linebacker was there and I

1626
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 1: don't think he ever saw the line. You threw it

1627
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 1: right to a linebacker. Wasn't a great play design? Sorry,

1628
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 1: yeah no, but I'm just saying, you still gotta you

1629
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: can't just throw the ball now when there's a guy

1630
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 1: standing and you threw it right to a guy and

1631
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: the other team. The other plays I don't really look

1632
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 1: at is like wild interceptions the way a lot of

1633
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: other people And now I feel like I'm turning into

1634
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: a macapologist and I've never been there. Well remember how

1635
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: the season started. But he throws the interception in the

1636
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: end zone, right, it was you know, it was a

1637
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: bad throw. It under thrown, and that mindset for the

1638
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: fans carries over, you know, that mistake and oh then

1639
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 1: he has another mistake, you know. But my my bigger

1640
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: thing is not about Mac. It's about Zappy and what

1641
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 1: you know. And I know that the caller was directing

1642
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: at Evan and I don't you know, he can speak

1643
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 1: for himself, but like the whole notion that you keep saying,

1644
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 1: what are you seeing? Yeah, from Zappy? And what I

1645
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 1: see is like a lack of production in general. So like,

1646
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: I can't tell a guy how to feel. And the

1647
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: guy says he feels no dread, like no one asked

1648
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: him to do anything. I like. But part of that

1649
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 1: is but that's fine. He felt dread when Mack was

1650
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 1: out there, and he did. He doesn't feel that when

1651
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: Zappy was, except for they scored points in the Baltimore

1652
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: game and they really haven't scored any points on offense

1653
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: and when when Zappi's played, I'm not blaming Zappy for that.

1654
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: He's a third string quarterback playing his first couple of games.

1655
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: They obviously have a very tight leash on him, but

1656
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: they're not really moving the ball and scoring points all that. Well,

1657
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: They're kicking some field goals here and there on short fields.

1658
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: That's about it. Against against Baltimore, I thought they played

1659
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: really well offensively, And yes, they made some mistakes which

1660
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 1: which cost them a chance to ultimately win the game.

1661
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: But I would take the plays they made in the

1662
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: Baltimore game over anything I've seen the last two games

1663
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: offensively easily. Yeah, let's go to Jim and Connecticut. What's

1664
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: up Jim? Hey Fred, how are you doing? Love the show?

1665
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: I just want to make a point quick of all,

1666
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: Paul being my brothers relationship where we have knocked down

1667
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: you shoulder a few minutes later. Yeah, oh yeah. Um,

1668
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: I just want to make some points about the defense

1669
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: about this year. I thought the defense is okay, and

1670
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: during the Baltimore game, actually, um, you know, the defense

1671
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: didn't played great. But also you know, I have some

1672
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: turnover to stuff. But um, I thought the kind of

1673
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: it played competitive to a really good team, and I

1674
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: thought that was good. But um the thing about that

1675
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: game that I think hurts too is I think Dugger

1676
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: was out and I think he would have helped a

1677
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: lot of help and cover Mark Mark Daniels a tight

1678
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 1: end for Baltimore. Can't hurt having him in Andrews. Mark

1679
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: Daniels is tough like every game pretty much mostly like

1680
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 1: yeah him and Phillips. Yeah, yeah, all right. I think

1681
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 1: he certainly would have helped with Lamar Jackson's running because

1682
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 1: I think he's an excellent tackler. Yeah, yeah, I'm glad

1683
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: the defense though, has like starting to get a base

1684
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: of young players now, like Barmore and Jones. But I think,

1685
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about it? I'm not big

1686
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 1: on free agent, but what do you think about like

1687
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 1: a rope Clan Smith, it's a free agent because getting

1688
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: the young linebackers almost like a Stefan Gilmore. We pay

1689
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: too much too early, but then in time it's a

1690
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: better um value later on. Yeah, I mean, I'd be

1691
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: all for it. I just I wonder how this is

1692
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 1: all gonna how this is all gonna play and into

1693
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 1: next year with you know what do they see this

1694
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 1: year out of mac wilson and McMillan and to buy

1695
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: and all these guys are on one year deals, so

1696
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to rejigger this linebacker group somewhat. Well,

1697
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm worried about Week six. Yeah, me too, But Roquin

1698
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: is not really their type of linebacker that's saying. I mean,

1699
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: why is that he's undersized? You know, he's a great player.

1700
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not a good player. I just

1701
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean maybe the mac Wilson signing

1702
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: or trade it kind of signals that they're at least

1703
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: looking at a different prototype at linebacker. But they can't

1704
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: get mac Wilson on the field because of his you know,

1705
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: issues that they knew schematically they probably were going to have.

1706
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's great player. I just don't

1707
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 1: know paying that guy that kind of money when he

1708
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: doesn't really fit what you do is the best idea,

1709
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: And I like, you know me, Fred, I'd never care

1710
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: about the money. I'm not sure how much money, because

1711
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: it is kind of a position that doesn't break the bank. Yeh,

1712
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, you're looking at double digits at least.

1713
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, I mean if you want a player,

1714
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that kind of like bass. I mean,

1715
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: get double digits to Nelson Aggalore, god sakes, I mean, yeah,

1716
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: Williams and fellam. What's up William what's going on for it?

1717
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: How are you doing good? Okay? Um? Just two questions

1718
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 1: an I'm out your way. One is, um, can you

1719
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 1: give me a player that you would want on the

1720
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: team though I were a position, like a realistic you

1721
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: know if as a trade whatever, who you would want though,

1722
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,879
Speaker 1: just realistic think of it like you're being Bill Billichick,

1723
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 1: be like, who would you want on the team for

1724
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 1: trade this year? Like before the deadline? Or like are

1725
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 1: you including like next year? Two? Yeah, you could say, well,

1726
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna say I'm gonna stick to this year.

1727
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: So something before the deadline this year? Right, God, there's

1728
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: a lot of names out there, Like I'm trying to

1729
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: think like realistically though. So there's a name that I

1730
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: threw out there yesterday on the on Catch twenty two

1731
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: check it out two to three pm Wednesdays. Uh. That

1732
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: is on Carolina. Interesting situation going on there, Derek Brown,

1733
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: nose tackle on the Panthers, former seventh overall pick, not

1734
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: living up to that billing because he's a nose tackle

1735
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: and let's face it, he's not gonna put up the

1736
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: stats that people want. A seventh overall pick to put up.

1737
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: But he's got the two gap nose tackle mold down

1738
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: to a t. Here. You're not looking for him to

1739
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 1: be a top ten type of production guy. And I

1740
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: really think ultimately, I think as a good player no

1741
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 1: matter where you lie him up. But I think ultimately

1742
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: he's better off the nose than he is on the nose.

1743
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: Might be able to free him up. And you got

1744
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: the twenty eighth ranked run defense in the league by

1745
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: dv Oa. You had another three hundred and thirty pound

1746
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: guy in the middle of the defense. It's only going

1747
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: to help with that problem. So if there's anybody on

1748
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: the Panthers roster that I think all the talk about

1749
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: wide receivers is ridiculous, they don't. They already have too

1750
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: many wide Receivershi Banning, Robbie Anderson in and I don't

1751
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: think those guys would represent a demonstrative improvement, right. And

1752
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 1: I like DJ Moore, but you don't like how much

1753
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: better was he than all the guys you have, right?

1754
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would look at Derek Brown. I know

1755
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: they also really like to take those guys that they

1756
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to get in the draft. I'm

1757
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: sure that they love his former first round I am

1758
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 1: sure they had Derek Brown granted out extremely highly coming

1759
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: out of Auburn, just the way he plays. What year

1760
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: he's in his fourth year, ninth, so he has that

1761
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 1: kid chair off. He was there when we went to

1762
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: the first combine. Yeah, I just got my first inkling.

1763
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: Like I listen, I know Carolina is probably going to

1764
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 1: be selling off a lot of pieces, but I'm not

1765
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: sure it makes a lot of sense to sell young pieces.

1766
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: But he might be far enough along that he could

1767
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 1: be available. I mean, what position would you go to though,

1768
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean, just looking at the Patriots roster, not even

1769
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: considering a specific not necessarily wanting to bring up the

1770
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith thing, but like I would love an athletic

1771
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. M So maybe Bentley's not playing as much.

1772
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 1: But you know, like I don't know how realistic, you know,

1773
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to like really like that's a realistic

1774
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: option that Evan gave there with Derek. Like that, that's

1775
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 1: a kind of guy that I could see Bill being

1776
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: interested in. He loves former first round picks that don't

1777
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 1: pan out because he can get more out of them,

1778
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: and he would like odd front nose tackle. That's Derek

1779
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 1: Brown's role. But Bentley's tough because Jonathan Sullivan's rule to him.

1780
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: He certainly has some limitations in coverage and we in space,

1781
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 1: we all know that. But they need a linebacker, especially

1782
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 1: they're running a lot of this you know, five one

1783
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: front where there's really only one true inside linebacker off

1784
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,040
Speaker 1: the ball, and they need somebody that can play A

1785
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: and B gap and hold up. And if like hold up,

1786
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean that that's kind of not necessarily in line

1787
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 1: with the ex's knows that you were just talking all

1788
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: but just that position. I think I think that they

1789
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 1: rolled the dice and said we don't need it in

1790
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 1: the draft. And most of the guys that I think

1791
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: they were looking at feeling big roles have yet to

1792
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: really feel a big role. I think is emergent promising, yeah,

1793
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and maybe ray Kwon McMillan's quiet

1794
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: start was was more health related, and maybe he I mean,

1795
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: he made a play the other day. So maybe you

1796
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:36,759
Speaker 1: get more out of those two guys, say, in two weeks,

1797
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: than you did in the previous three. It's just tough

1798
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 1: because if you're going to play this style of defense

1799
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 1: is three three five that they're playing, you're leaving the

1800
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: guards uncovered on the line of scrimmage. And so if

1801
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: you have a two hundred and thirty pound linebacker at

1802
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: the second level and they're pulling guards towards them, it's

1803
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 1: game over. So the only guy that they had, I mean,

1804
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: I think McMillan, he showed he had one or two

1805
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: plays last week where he was able to blow up

1806
01:30:58,040 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: a puller or a guy climbing to the second level

1807
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 1: and make a play. One of them he shot the gap.

1808
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 1: So those are plays that maybe that he can start

1809
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 1: to emerge a little bit more because he has a

1810
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: little bit of a downhill thump to him as well.

1811
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:09,799
Speaker 1: But if you're going to play this kind of system

1812
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 1: and you're gonna put a two hundred and twenty five

1813
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: linebacker there at the second level, it's not going to

1814
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: work out. I mean, they need to have somebody there

1815
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 1: that can take on blocks. I know that frustrates some people,

1816
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: but but I mean, is it too much to ask

1817
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: that they can take on blocks and make plays like

1818
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 1: That's what I feel like. I feel like Bentley's great

1819
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 1: at taking on blocks, but he just don't get off.

1820
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't make plays, you know, like it's fine,

1821
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:29,759
Speaker 1: you just we need a kamikaze to run into guards,

1822
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: like you know, but like at a certain point, like

1823
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: where I'm getting to is like, you know, and I

1824
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 1: think that McMillan play you talked about where it was like, hey,

1825
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 1: met a guy in the hole, shed them made the tackle,

1826
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: Like why did that look so novel to me? You know,

1827
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen enough. You talk about what their rank lasting.

1828
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're thirty second in stuffed runs,

1829
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: so you know, like they're not making places behind the

1830
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage at the terrible rate. So I don't

1831
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: know that's that's just I mean, I get everything you're

1832
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: saying about with the style they're playing. I just the

1833
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 1: frustrating thing for me is that linebackers don't make plays.

1834
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 1: And this is where I'm I will side with Fred

1835
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 1: like that their numbers are terrible in that, but I

1836
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 1: saw improvement in that area certainly. I mean to I

1837
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:09,600
Speaker 1: think they had I don't know how many, but the

1838
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: fourth and one. It's just hard loss if you have

1839
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 1: I think the point I agree with you totally Mike,

1840
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: that they don't make enough splash plays at the second

1841
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 1: level from the linebacker group. But the problem is is

1842
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: that it's like, you know, a chicken or the egg

1843
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 1: situation because they need the two hundred and fifty five

1844
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 1: pound linebacker to plug the being a gaps against the

1845
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 1: run because of the style of front that they're playing.

1846
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 1: But that those guys don't have playmaking. They don't have speed, right,

1847
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: they don't have the playmaking qualities that other guys have.

1848
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 1: So what I find interesting is they they trade for

1849
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 1: a guy like Mac Wilson, for example, but they didn't

1850
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 1: change the front, like they didn't change the side with right.

1851
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 1: They're just asking him to deal with it essentially. So

1852
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: that's the problem is like how many people are walking

1853
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 1: on this planet that are two hundred and sixty pounds

1854
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: that can also grange sideline to sideline and also cover

1855
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 1: and also take on blocks Like I think Prime Jamie

1856
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 1: Collins is like a cyborg in that respect, right that

1857
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: he was able to do all those things. He wasn't

1858
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: a great run player now because of yeah, because of

1859
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 1: his his play recognition, but those are the things that

1860
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, you can't have it one way or another.

1861
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: And like a teams that have these lighter linebackers typically

1862
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 1: play out of a four to three so that they

1863
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: can get more guys to cover gaps on the line

1864
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. And the Patriots are three fourteen. All right,

1865
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: one more call and then we'll get to the picks.

1866
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: Will's in the barber shop. What's up, Will? Are you

1867
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 1: doing guys? You getting the junior boys regular? Yes, sir? Okay.

1868
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 1: So I just have two points I want to touch

1869
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,640
Speaker 1: on today. One of them is I really like what

1870
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 1: they did with the offensive line last week. I believe

1871
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,600
Speaker 1: that they were stacking Isaiah When and MICUs Cannon on

1872
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: one side, and Cannon was reporting as eligible to help

1873
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 1: with the run. I thought that was really really awesome

1874
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: to help them, you know, move the ball on the

1875
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: ground a lot more. Yep. And I think that the

1876
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 1: second point I wanted to make was, you know, the

1877
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: friend point, like they're gonna throw all their progressions early on.

1878
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 1: I think everybody's just losing their shirt over Bailey z Appy,

1879
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: and I think they just need to pump the brakes

1880
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. I think Mac Jones is

1881
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 1: a much more capable quarterback at this point. And I

1882
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: just think that people have such recency bias against Mac

1883
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: Jones that they're just really kind of blindfolded by I know,

1884
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. Yeah, that's why it's a good thing

1885
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: that we have people who know what they're looking at

1886
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: running the team and not the fans. Yeah kidding, I

1887
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 1: heard all reaching the show. Yeah all right, well thanks, well,

1888
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 1: appreciate your calling in. All right, it's that time of

1889
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 1: the week. Follow what happened last week? All right? Last

1890
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 1: week Fred back from the dead twelve and four, don't

1891
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: get too excited, followed by Mike and Paul at eleven

1892
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 1: and five, five and Evan ten and six. So a

1893
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: good week, So a good week for everybody. Last week

1894
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:11,600
Speaker 1: we're all solid winning record with the spread. Mike and

1895
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 1: Paul nine six and one, Evan six nine and one,

1896
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 1: and Fred five ten and one. How does that? How

1897
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 1: did that happen? It's not a good year. That's got

1898
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: to be very rare when somebody wins the straight up

1899
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 1: but then a dead last in the Wow. Listen for example,

1900
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 1: that I picked the Patriots to not cover. As you know,

1901
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm not a numbers guy, so I don't have it um.

1902
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 1: So overall the standings, RS follows Paul no surprise for

1903
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 1: fifty twenty nine and one, followed by Mike and Fred

1904
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 1: at forty four, thirty five and one, Evans twenty two

1905
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 1: and ten. I'll take it, yeah, alex Is thirty and

1906
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: eighteen Um and Tamarrow was still only picked one week

1907
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 1: at seven eight and one. You stiffed me with the pixel.

1908
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: I was really upset about it when the game started.

1909
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 1: I literally you forgot. It's okay, It's all right. You

1910
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 1: can always write him down and he can fill it well.

1911
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 1: When I'm not on the show on Thursdays, she sends

1912
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 1: me on the slack and about eight days later I

1913
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:23,560
Speaker 1: find him. I'm just I don't know. Um with the

1914
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 1: Spread again, no surprise, Paul forty six, thirty two and two,

1915
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 1: followed by Mike, who was found his way to the

1916
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 1: five hundred mark. Congrats to you, Mike thirty nine, thirty

1917
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 1: nine and two. Evan is also at the five hundred

1918
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 1: mark at fifteen, fifteen and two, alex Is twenty two,

1919
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 1: twenty five and two, and Fred twenty nine forty nine two. Wow,

1920
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 1: I was like me last year. Epic bad turn around?

1921
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 1: All right? The the The Against the Spread comeback starts

1922
01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 1: this week and tonight eight fifteen on Prime Video. It's

1923
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 1: the Commanders at one and four, traveling to the two

1924
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 1: and eight, two and three, two and two and three

1925
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears um Chicago by one in a game that

1926
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 1: auto set the league back decades. Yes it should. Of course,

1927
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:17,879
Speaker 1: the Commanders are in the news. So how how ironic

1928
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: that they just happened to be playing tonight. Um, I'm

1929
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 1: gonna go back to that thing, the caller said, two

1930
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 1: bad teams. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Chicago and

1931
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 1: kill Harry Factor. Give me the home team. I'll lay

1932
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 1: the point. Do you hear? By the way, what Rivera

1933
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: said about the quarterback the course, I mean he I

1934
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: thought he did a good job of damage control afterwards,

1935
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 1: but what was his damage control? What did he do well?

1936
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 1: How do you damage He threw himself on the store

1937
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: and he was like that Sid it was you know,

1938
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 1: it was a dumb comment. I you know, I pride

1939
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 1: myself on not being a distraction. We preached that, We've

1940
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 1: addressed it, he addressed in the team meeting. He I mean,

1941
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 1: he apologized for it, but can't take it back. It's

1942
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 1: out there when he's going back. He was just being

1943
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:01,680
Speaker 1: honest right forever, right, Sorry for the honesty. Alex, what

1944
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 1: do you got Chicago by one? I'm gonna I'm gonna

1945
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 1: change it up. I'm gonna go Washington and really yeah,

1946
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,679
Speaker 1: I give them. I don't know, maybe they rally around

1947
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 1: this news and we're not a dysfunctional organization. Our coaches

1948
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 1: throwing the quarterback under the bus. We're not blackmailing all

1949
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 1: the other owners. Yeah, I think it'd be fun to see,

1950
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 1: So I want to speak it into existence. Okay, when

1951
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 1: Washington against spread and Washington to win. Oh, sorry, Evan,

1952
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Bears. Bears. The best thing about this

1953
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:36,600
Speaker 1: game is the Bears running game, so I'm going to

1954
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 1: count on the Bears. I think the best game is

1955
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: those orange helmets, which I think look really cool. I

1956
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:46,759
Speaker 1: will take the Bears as well. Bears Bears win, setting

1957
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: up a big five hundred. Oh I think I just

1958
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 1: got a peek into Fred's pick later in the show. Um,

1959
01:38:56,680 --> 01:39:00,639
Speaker 1: Sunday at one, the three and two four nine Ers

1960
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 1: are at the two and three Falcons San Francisco, Buy

1961
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 1: five and a half. I think this game is actually

1962
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: at nine thirty on this based off this schedule. Oh yeah,

1963
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 1: Oh was it a are we Internet? Yeah? The NFL

1964
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 1: dot com has it at one, but they don't even

1965
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 1: have a nine thirty games at a London game. I

1966
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 1: didn't know this is merced then this this is very

1967
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 1: very well wrong, Evan, So don't go off on my show. Yeah,

1968
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 1: they don't have an anyway. San Francisco's buy five and

1969
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: a half five and a half. Uh yeah, I'm gonna

1970
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Jimmy G on the road. I San

1971
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 1: Francisco is a little bit weird, but I think I

1972
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 1: think they'll get the jot down against the Falcons. Alex okay,

1973
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 1: San Fran, San Fran, Evan. I'm taking San Francisco to win,

1974
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 1: but I'm taking Atlanta to cover because I like Dean

1975
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 1: Peace against JIMMG. Peace be with you. Um. I thought

1976
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 1: about it, but I'm gonna stick with the Niners both ways.

1977
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 1: That Niners defense is really impact. I don't think it's

1978
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: I don't get through a lot of good defenses in football.

1979
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 1: That's one of them. At their defenses, del Rio, I

1980
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 1: will I will take the forty nine ers both an

1981
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 1: old forty nine Ers both ways. Sunday at one, the

1982
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 1: three and two Jets are at the three and two Packers,

1983
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 1: green Bay by seven, seven it's good good good tests

1984
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 1: for the Jets. I mean they Yeah, I know, three

1985
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 1: and two not a bad start winning some games. Uh.

1986
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 1: I gotta go with the hometown pack though, Go Pack

1987
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 1: go um. But yeah, now I'm gonna lay the points. Yeah,

1988
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 1: I need Green Bay to put the Jets back in

1989
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 1: their place. Green Bay both ways. I like Green Bay.

1990
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,640
Speaker 1: I like them both ways too. I feel like the

1991
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 1: Packers at some point have that level that they're just

1992
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 1: better than the Jets. Yeah, I think that as well.

1993
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:54,600
Speaker 1: I think the Jets stink. I think they're going to

1994
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 1: get better because I think they have all the good

1995
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 1: young players. I just think it's hard to be good

1996
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:00,559
Speaker 1: with all first and second year players playing so many

1997
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 1: key roles. But I will take the points because I

1998
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 1: don't think Green Bay is all that good. Yeah, I'm

1999
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 1: with Paul. I say the Jets cover even though Packers

2000
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 1: went at home. Um, it might be a backdoor cover too,

2001
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 1: like Green Bayer, I think we'll have the game. I

2002
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 1: don't think it'll be in jeopardy. Yeah. I don't think

2003
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 1: the Jets are as bad as Paul thinks they are.

2004
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 1: I think they're No, I think they're they're stink. Yeah. Well,

2005
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: I think they're just too young. Stink is too too

2006
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 1: strong of a word that might sink. Yeah, yeah, I don't.

2007
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't mind him. I just I think they have

2008
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 1: a lot of good young players. I just think it's

2009
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 1: hard to be really good with all young players and

2010
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 1: it's young. It's like the youngest roster in the league

2011
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 1: Sunday at one, one of the youngest, the two and

2012
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 1: three Jaguars are at the two, two and one Colts

2013
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 1: Colts by one and a half. Who the tough one,

2014
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: of course, Jacksonville AFC South sneaky tough games to call.

2015
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm really struggling with this one right now. And uh

2016
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:58,719
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go with Indie at home based

2017
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 1: on based on that jackson They'll win last year. I

2018
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna they're gonna be locked in on

2019
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 1: this one. I do think Jacksonville is better, but I'm

2020
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 1: gonna take Indie at home on the way the point

2021
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 1: and I would say one a half, one and a

2022
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 1: half Indie Indie. I'm taking the Jacks. These these games,

2023
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 1: these interdivision games, they have some weird trends, you know,

2024
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 1: where teams just beat up on each other. And I

2025
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 1: think Jacksonville is Jacksonville absolutely owns the Colts. They've shut

2026
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 1: them out in a week two twenty four to nothing

2027
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. Yeah, Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna

2028
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 1: buck the trend. I'm gonna go with Indie. I think

2029
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: they had ten days off. I think Jacksonville might be

2030
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 1: thinking to themselves, we are what everybody thought we were

2031
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 1: after their disappointing lost last week to Houston. I'm gonna

2032
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 1: take the Colts, but I don't feel great about it. Yeah,

2033
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is like a ridiculous heck over the Colts. Yeah,

2034
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 1: and it's tough to win, you know, beat the same

2035
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: team twice and you're DIVI I am gonna go with

2036
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:56,560
Speaker 1: Evan Jacksonville wins this game. Um, you definitely want the

2037
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 1: seen my record. I just like the conviction, you know. Uh.

2038
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 1: Sunday at one, the four and four and War four

2039
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 1: and one Vikings are at the three and two Dolphins

2040
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 1: with their third string quarterback, Minnesota by three and a half. Yes,

2041
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 1: Skyler Thompson, Teddy's not playing in this game. Not playing. No,

2042
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 1: he came right out, McDaniel came right out. Ridiculous. Yeah,

2043
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 1: he's like he's in concussion protocol. And didn't have a concussion. Yeah,

2044
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. Yeah, we're going too far the other way.

2045
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 1: This is what happens. I feel bad it's deiling, not

2046
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. Yeah, it's derailing the season though, Like

2047
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 1: it's not you know whatever. I'm gonna take the Vikings

2048
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 1: on the road, not on primetime. But I just think

2049
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 1: it's too much for Miami right now. Yeah, I think

2050
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: it's sorry Minnesota. Well, I like that Minnesota. I'm just

2051
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 1: watching Tom Brady on NFL Network now doing a press

2052
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,640
Speaker 1: conference here anymore. He never wore a Patriots cap. It

2053
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 1: was always TV twelve, and now he's got a Tampa

2054
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 1: Bay cap. Tom's camouflage killing me, You're killing me, and

2055
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: he's got a Tampa Bay shirt on. That's too much, Yeah, Evans. Anyways,

2056
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him Minnesota too. I don't like it.

2057
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:17,680
Speaker 1: But I think that color Thomson last week was a

2058
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:19,679
Speaker 1: mess when he had to go in there for Miami.

2059
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:25,480
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Teddy. Okay, uh, I will take Minnesota,

2060
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 1: and I will take the hook and I'll take the points. Um.

2061
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings will win the game. Um, it's

2062
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: asking too much for it for them to beat a

2063
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: good team like that with third string quarterback. But I

2064
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 1: think I think, just like last week, they'll have a chance. Yeah,

2065
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 1: kicking a field goal in the fourth quarter to take

2066
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:47,760
Speaker 1: the lead, he missed it. I think that then the

2067
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:51,720
Speaker 1: Wheels came off right. So I think the Vikings cover.

2068
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 1: They win and cover this game. Sunday at one, the

2069
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 1: two and three Bengals are at the two and three Saints.

2070
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 1: Bengals by one and a half. Bengals by one and

2071
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: a half. So this is like who Dave versus Who Dat?

2072
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 1: Who Dat Who day verse who that I'm gonna go

2073
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 1: as it's tough. I'm gonna go with Joe Burrow on

2074
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 1: the road. Um, that's a tough one, though. I'm gonna

2075
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 1: take him and I'll play the points. I also wrote

2076
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:25,960
Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals both ways. I

2077
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 1: can't get a read on the Bengals. It's a tough team.

2078
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 1: They got so much talent, but they're just not playing

2079
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 1: up to its post Super Bowl. Yeah, that might be it.

2080
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 1: I'll take Cincinnati. I'll take them both ways. I don't Yeah,

2081
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 1: I'll take Cincinnati to New Orleans. I think a lot

2082
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 1: of the New Orleans defense, but it hasn't played very well. Yeah,

2083
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand alone. Am I the only one taking

2084
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 1: the Saints? Yeah? Yeah, I think we know why? Why?

2085
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 1: Because they were mean to us? I know. Um. There

2086
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 1: was an interesting story on NFL dot com today though

2087
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 1: about when Tim Tebow was playing at Miami. You know

2088
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 1: they uh it was a bowl game? No, no, Tim

2089
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 1: Tebow wasn't. I'll never mind forget it. Good story anyway,

2090
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 1: great story. If Joe Burrow lights it up, could this

2091
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 1: become a home game for him because of the Yeah

2092
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 1: that's what happened in Florida with Tim Tebow. Yeah, Chase

2093
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 1: Chase too? Yeah yeah. Um. Sunday at one, the three

2094
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,719
Speaker 1: and two Ravens are at the four and one Giants

2095
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: Baltimore by five and a half. Uh yeah, I don't.

2096
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I like the Giants. I like Dable's doing,

2097
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 1: but I think Baltimore is uh the best team, and

2098
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 1: we're one of the best teams. Namecy right now. I'll

2099
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:45,680
Speaker 1: take them, and I'll lay the points. Yeah, Baltimore to win,

2100
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:51,040
Speaker 1: Baltimore points. I like Baltimore to win. I'll give the Giants,

2101
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 1: oh the points, throw them a bone. I don't know.

2102
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 1: I I can't. I can't believe the Giants right now.

2103
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's for real. But maybe maybe they're

2104
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: more competitive than I think. Yeah, I'm the same way. Um,

2105
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore will, without question, at some point in

2106
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 1: the game be covering, but they won't end up covering.

2107
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 1: I'll take Baltimore to win, but the Giants will keep

2108
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:14,559
Speaker 1: it close. That's the same way I'll take that hook

2109
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 1: um Sunday at one, three and two Buccaneers at the

2110
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 1: one and four Steelers, Bucks by eight and a half.

2111
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 1: That's not enough. Yeah, that's not enough. I'm taking Tampa.

2112
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 1: No problem with the pretty healthy road favorite though it

2113
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 1: was like eleven and a half really, because home team

2114
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 1: usually gets like a field goal, that's right. Yeah, yeah,

2115
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, home team usually gets like

2116
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,759
Speaker 1: two three points. Because you said that, dude, you got Tampa.

2117
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, same retweet. I might check this game

2118
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 1: out just to watch Brady destroy the Steelers defense like

2119
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 1: he does every single time he plays Pittsburgh. Fair points. Yeah,

2120
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 1: I'll lay the points in this show. Yeah, I'll go

2121
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: with Brady both ways. All right. Now we skip over

2122
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:07,640
Speaker 1: yeah you will? Oh, we skip over the Patriots at

2123
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 1: one o'clock and we move to four oh five where

2124
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 1: the one and four Panthers are visiting the two and

2125
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 1: three Rams. Oh, the Rams by ten and a half.

2126
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,600
Speaker 1: Ten and a half. Just to let everybody know, I

2127
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 1: don't think cup Or Donald practice yesterday for the Rams. Wow.

2128
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Ye um, But I think the Carolina

2129
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 1: Panthers are going down the tubes. Their coach is gone

2130
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be Maybe that's a good thing, not good.

2131
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 1: I think they're a lot, They're they're wayward suns. They're gone.

2132
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Rams, and I'm even gonna dump

2133
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 1: those points too. I took the Rams to win, but

2134
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:44,560
Speaker 1: I gave Carolina the points. I'm with Alex on this

2135
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 1: one and with Fred. I think sometimes the coach getting

2136
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: fire can galvanize the troops a little bit, make it

2137
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 1: more competitive. But it's a big spread the Ram. Yeah,

2138
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 1: it's big spread. But ultimately I think the Rams win,

2139
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,599
Speaker 1: but I think Carolina covers that spread. Yeah, I will

2140
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 1: lay the points with the Rams. The Rams are in

2141
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 1: trouble if they can figure out how to protect the passer, though, um,

2142
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:05,679
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna be in disarray. If Stafford keeps getting

2143
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: hit the way he is. They think he's sacked like

2144
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 1: twenty one times or something. I know it's it doesn't

2145
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 1: even really matter. Yeah, So I'll take the Rams because

2146
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 1: I think that the coach um. I don't think they

2147
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 1: hated the coach. I think when they hate the coach

2148
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 1: and he gets fired, there's a little of that rallying.

2149
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't know the Carolina situation closely,

2150
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 1: but I haven't really heard any players coming up. Maybe

2151
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:29,679
Speaker 1: I missed them, and it sounds like they're more Yeah,

2152
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:31,879
Speaker 1: I think that. I think there's more talk in Carolina

2153
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 1: about a fighter. Say, yeah, you know Christian McCaffrey and

2154
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 1: where he's going, and this guy and where he's going,

2155
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 1: and we're going right through Derek Brown. I think there'll

2156
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 1: be some guys on the Panthers going on ir shortly,

2157
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 1: just shutting it down in a tough spot that like, offensively,

2158
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 1: the Rams are bad right now. They just don't have

2159
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 1: enough talent on offense. They don't have a good offensive line.

2160
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 1: It's Cooper Cupper bust Like, they just don't have a

2161
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 1: lot of talent on that side of the line. The

2162
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 1: line is really really struggling. Yeah, I'm gonna go rams win,

2163
01:49:56,320 --> 01:50:00,040
Speaker 1: but I will take the points four or five. I

2164
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,640
Speaker 1: have two and three Cardinals are at the two and

2165
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:05,839
Speaker 1: three Seahawks like Gino Cook. So this is an interesting

2166
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 1: game time because if the Mariners in Houston have to

2167
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: play in the game four, they're changing the time of

2168
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:14,600
Speaker 1: this game. They're pushing it back like an hour and

2169
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 1: a half. Oh yeah, let's have a little middle game.

2170
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 1: It'd be like a five thirty start something something like that.

2171
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 1: If there's a baseball game. Does anything that's different is cool? Yeah? Yeah, right,

2172
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 1: could help us on red zone. We'll have extra games.

2173
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 1: I know it'll be sorry. Arizona by two and a half.

2174
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:35,679
Speaker 1: Arizona by two and a half, um, tough one Division game.

2175
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:39,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Sea Atole and the fighting Geno Smiths,

2176
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 1: and I will take those home dog points. Arizona twin.

2177
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 1: But I gave the points to Seattle and Gino. I'm

2178
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 1: taking Seattle. I'm taking them both ways. I really don't

2179
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:57,720
Speaker 1: believe in Arizona at all, and I think Cliff is done. Yeah,

2180
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 1: it's getting getting warm over there. Yeah, what was that

2181
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 1: number again? Put Arizona by two and a half. I

2182
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 1: will take Arizona. I'm gonna take the Seahawks both ways. Well,

2183
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 1: they're underdog, so at home, might just take them. I'll

2184
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 1: take them. Uh. Four twenty five, the four and one

2185
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 1: Bills are at the four and one Chiefs. Baby, what

2186
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 1: are we doing? Why is this game CBS exclusive? Yeah?

2187
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 1: That was all that was not even gonna do the

2188
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 1: postgame show? What are you be watching? That had to

2189
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 1: be a protective absolutely, Especially Kansas City was on primetime

2190
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. You would think they would have

2191
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 1: wanted to for this one. Buffalo by two and a half. Wow,

2192
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 1: that's how good the Bills are. Buffalo's favored and narrowhead.

2193
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go

2194
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:44,680
Speaker 1: with them. I'm gonna go with them. You can think

2195
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo is pretty good. Buffalo is pretty good. It was

2196
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 1: funny like we were talking with having about Buffalo and

2197
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 1: like while we're doing the defense thing during lunch, and

2198
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 1: he was like, tell it's your offensive Buffalo. It was

2199
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 1: the same thing I said where you were just like,

2200
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they could they could keep them to thirty

2201
01:51:58,320 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 1: and it's still not enough for the bait, you know.

2202
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm going Bills. I think at time is now.

2203
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 1: But I think Patrick Mahomes is obviously playing great, so

2204
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 1: he'll put up a fight. He's got a future that

2205
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 1: might be all right. Good player about his family. But yeah,

2206
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm going with the home dogs Kansas City. A smart

2207
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 1: person once told me that a smart a wise man

2208
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 1: bets home dogs. So who was this person? I forget suspect.

2209
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna suspect. I'm going with Kansas City too. I

2210
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,600
Speaker 1: I like Buffalo. I think they're a good team. I

2211
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:33,640
Speaker 1: think Josh Allen's a good quarterback, but you don't make

2212
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes a home dog like I just I saw

2213
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 1: that last week too with Patrick Mahomes, like he got

2214
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 1: a little bit angry at the Chris Jones call and

2215
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 1: lit the world on fire. So I'm taking Patrick Mahomes

2216
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: as a home dog homeboy. Yeah. I think Buffalo is

2217
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:50,720
Speaker 1: gonna blow them out just like they did last year,

2218
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,840
Speaker 1: and I'll take them to do it again. I think

2219
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs remember that, and I think the Chiefs win this.

2220
01:52:56,400 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 1: The Chiefs got the revenge in the AFC Championship whatever division. Yes,

2221
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 1: is this an AFC Championship preview this game? YEA possibly? Yes?

2222
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 1: The Chiefs. I took the Chiefs, Patriots, I took the Chiefs. Uh.

2223
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:13,599
Speaker 1: Sunday night on NBRY Sure. Uh. The four and one

2224
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys are at the five and oh Eagle and get

2225
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 1: enough of the division matchups in prime time. Eagles by six,

2226
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:25,559
Speaker 1: game six, Eagles by six, and they're at home. Another

2227
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:27,679
Speaker 1: great game. I don't I don't especially love the NFC East,

2228
01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 1: but but another great game. It's Philadelphia. Good challenge. I

2229
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 1: think I saw what it. Yeah, the Cowboys have win

2230
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 1: the last three. Got notes over there, No, just a

2231
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 1: little bit. I print the thing so I have a

2232
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 1: little bit of Maybe I can offer a comment or

2233
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,760
Speaker 1: a homework, a stat Perhaps it's much better, just like

2234
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 1: say things like Jackson Villoe's the Colt. I have no

2235
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 1: idea how many they've one. Oh yeah, just know those

2236
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 1: things that I think that's a thing. I think that's

2237
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 1: a thing. I'm going. I'm gonna go fly, Eagles fly,

2238
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:57,360
Speaker 1: and but I'm gonna take those points. I think it's

2239
01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 1: gonna be close. Um, but I liked Eagles to win. Oh,

2240
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 1: so you have Dallas, you're taking up Dallas points. Yeah,

2241
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 1: I don't say Philly Philli on Philly Philly. Every time

2242
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 1: both times. I think Paul on it the first time

2243
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 1: we talk. I take a Philly to win, but I'm

2244
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 1: taking Dallas in the points Divisional game. I just feel

2245
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:25,360
Speaker 1: like he'll be close. Dallas is another one of those

2246
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 1: teams that has a defense that's pretty good. Um, but

2247
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Philly both ways, because I know I

2248
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 1: keep saying this every week. At some point Dallas is

2249
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 1: going to realize they're playing with a backup quarterback and

2250
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 1: something's gonna happened. Hasn't happened yet. I guess Mike McCarthy's

2251
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 1: a genius. UM's generally an indication of winning games with

2252
01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. But I'm gonna take the Eagles in

2253
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 1: this game. I too, am gonna take the Eagles both

2254
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 1: ways in this game. So there you go. So now

2255
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm just looking to be a perfect week for me.

2256
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 1: I think both the spread night Monday Night, Oh yeah,

2257
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 1: Monday Night, eight fifteen on ESPN two and three Broncos

2258
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 1: are at the three and two Chargers. Chargers by five

2259
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 1: and a half. They're getting any players back, I don't

2260
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 1: think yet. I don't know if it's gonna matter, Um

2261
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 1: the Broncos. It's the Broncos. I struggle to pick them

2262
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:24,520
Speaker 1: for anything. Right now, I'm gonna take the chargers and

2263
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 1: I will lay the points. I thought they were going

2264
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 1: to challenge for the AC West, I really do. Does

2265
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: anybody this is a question for the panel, you know

2266
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 1: how I like to throw these out there. Did anybody

2267
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 1: think heading into the season that Russell Wilson was done? No? Like,

2268
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 1: I know, he wasn't playing great. He was on what

2269
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 1: I would call washed watch. Okay, you know, like I

2270
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 1: didn't think he was done done, like get had a

2271
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 1: couple more seasons. I thought it had more to do

2272
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 1: with Seattle's sort of crumbling talent. But I actually think

2273
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 1: that I think you're throwing in Tyler Lockett in DK

2274
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 1: Metcalf maybe kept him going in the end there it's yeah, yeah,

2275
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:04,320
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily being receivers. I just meant the entirety

2276
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 1: of the team. Yeah, I hear you, But yeah, I

2277
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 1: mean he's he looks, he looks done. Yeah, yep, yep.

2278
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:16,640
Speaker 1: That much. Chargers both Mike Mike woint that was it,

2279
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 1: Mike Mike charges charges. I'm also taking the chargers both ways.

2280
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 1: Name for it. Jamari Sailor, the rookie left tackle that's

2281
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:32,839
Speaker 1: been filling in for Rashaan Slater shut out Miles Garrett

2282
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 1: last week. No sacks, no QB hits for Miles Garrett

2283
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 1: against the rookie left tackles, really impressive games like I

2284
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 1: want armed though, I mean yeah, I mean I think

2285
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 1: he was dead heading into the game. I'm gonna take

2286
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 1: the Chargers, but I will take the points five and

2287
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 1: a half. The Charges will do something stupid. Staley will

2288
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Speaker 1: go for something, but it's two really stupid coaches going

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01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 1: against each other, so fair point because the other guy

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01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 1: is as overmatched as the head coaches I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: a head coach. I'm gonna go with the Chargers both ways.

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01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 1: Is Denver finds themselves outside of Denver, not playing at home,

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01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 1: and they don't know what's going on. It's a rare

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01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 1: away game for the Broncos. So I'll go with the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I got you all right. Now we go back to

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01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 1: one o'clock where the two and three Patriots are going

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Speaker 1: against the two and three Browns. I'm sorry, Browns by

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01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 1: three three? Yeah no, uh, this a pick them, no question,

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Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, I'm going with the Patriots. I

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Speaker 1: I just think they're gonna put a good game together.

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01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:33,840
Speaker 1: I have some confidence. I don't have stats to back

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Speaker 1: it up right now, but I think that they'll handle

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01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 1: the Charger or the Browns, and I got them twenty

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01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 1: seven seventeen alix. I picked New England to win. I

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01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 1: think it'll be close. So I gave Cleveland the points

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01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 1: for not to think of a score. So let me

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01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 1: think of one that would allow for that outcome. Let's

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01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 1: do twenty eight New England, which would give twenty six

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01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 1: to Cleveland twenty seven. Yep. I don't like that. I'd

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Speaker 1: love to watch a game like that. I wouldn't offense.

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Speaker 1: What's offense? Yeah, I haven't seen any of that point.

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01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Patriots to win. I guess to

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01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 1: push right twenty four twenty one three point spread, So

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01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 1: you got to pick one of the other. God you pick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if if it lands on that, obviously we

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01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 1: would all tie. But okay, I'll take the Patriots to

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01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 1: cover two. I guess. I think the biggest thing that

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Speaker 1: I look at with this game watching the Chargers run

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01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 1: an offense. I mean, I have never seen a professional

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01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 1: defensive line get blown off the ball as easily as

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Speaker 1: this Brown's defensive line did against the Chargers like it

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01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:53,400
Speaker 1: looked like you were watching Zion Johnson playing in college

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01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 1: at BC. Like the way that they were moving that

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01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 1: interior of the line, it was crazy. So I think

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Speaker 1: the Patriots run defense is not nearly as bad as

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Speaker 1: the Browns run defenses. So I like the Patriots. Yeah,

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01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:09,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland really struggles stoppering the run, their worst worst in

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01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 1: the league at that buying a wide margin, and I

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01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 1: have to think that that's what the Patriots are gonna

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01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 1: want to do again. However, I think that that lends

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Speaker 1: to close games, and I don't think this game will

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01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 1: be easy. I think Cleveland will run it pretty much

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Speaker 1: as effectively as you do, and this could be one

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Speaker 1: of those games. Mike, we're watching red zone by like

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01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 1: three thirty. It could be like my dream game. I

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01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:36,400
Speaker 1: think the Patriots will continue to win. I think as

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Speaker 1: much as I argued with Fred before I ate lunch,

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01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 1: you'll see a continued progress from the defense. Was angry

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01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 1: Paul for the first time, all right, and twenty four

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01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:49,960
Speaker 1: to twenty Okay, I'm with Paul in terms of how

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01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 1: many points the Patriots are going to score twenty four.

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01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:56,360
Speaker 1: I think they hold the Browns to fourteen. So I

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01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 1: think it's going to be twenty four fourteen two blowouts

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Speaker 1: and that really it depends on how the you know,

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Speaker 1: toward the end, maybe the Patriots get a you know,

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02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:09,120
Speaker 1: backdoor touchdown or something like that. I think it's going

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02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:11,800
Speaker 1: to be a closer game than ten points, you know,

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02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 1: it'll feel that way. But a twenty four fourteen win

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots. So all right, all the Patriots this week,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's happened yet. This took this year. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, so that's oh no, I already did all

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02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:31,560
Speaker 1: the pure happened last week. We're just looking out, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I picked point for the points. Okay, shame Alice.

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Speaker 1: All right, that'll be it for this edition of Patriots

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Speaker 1: Unfiltered State for John Rook in the playbook. Um pregame

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Speaker 1: post game right after the show, and we'll see you

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