1
00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,760
Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans

2
00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,200
Speaker 1: Plan on paying. Let's for the coverage you need with

3
00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,439
Speaker 1: Farm Bureau of Health Plans. Get a quote today at

4
00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:24,680
Speaker 1: FBHB dot com with Rhettbriyan, coach, Dave McGinnis, and Ramon Foster.

5
00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,159
Speaker 1: I'm Mike Keith, and we welcome the Titans President of

6
00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,680
Speaker 1: Football Operations to the Official Titans Podcast, Chad Brinker. Congratulations

7
00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:34,639
Speaker 1: and thanks for joining us.

8
00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:35,919
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

9
00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,879
Speaker 1: All right, So, I want to start with the President

10
00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,680
Speaker 1: of Football Operations position and how it creates alignment in

11
00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:50,800
Speaker 1: the Titans organization and also how it potentially accentuates the

12
00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,800
Speaker 1: strengths of everybody involved. Kind of layout, what division is

13
00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,840
Speaker 1: if you would please?

14
00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think as you look at this league, it

15
00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,280
Speaker 3: continues to evolve, and the Titans and and miss Amy

16
00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,160
Speaker 3: wanted to stay at the forefront of that. And as

17
00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,120
Speaker 3: you look at how these teams are, you know, kind

18
00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,440
Speaker 3: of constructing their front offices now, particularly in baseball and

19
00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,120
Speaker 3: and basketball, and you're starting to see it in football now.

20
00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,319
Speaker 2: Uh we had a you know, we had an.

21
00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,520
Speaker 3: Opportunity to kind of restructure this as we're thinking about

22
00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,000
Speaker 3: our future. Uh So, I was fortunate enough to get

23
00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,800
Speaker 3: this opportunity. I'm excited about it. And when when you

24
00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,560
Speaker 3: look at the division of labor, so to speak. UH,

25
00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,640
Speaker 3: this is going to allow the head coach to coach,

26
00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,920
Speaker 3: and it's going to allow Ran as the general manager,

27
00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,720
Speaker 3: to be the general manager, to pick the players, uh,

28
00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,440
Speaker 3: to work with the coaching staff, and to really uh

29
00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,560
Speaker 3: focus on what we like to say, the main thing,

30
00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,240
Speaker 3: keep the main thing, the main thing, right and and

31
00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,560
Speaker 3: and Ran is a tremendous uh person, Uh, you know

32
00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,720
Speaker 3: as far as an evaluator and the relationships he has

33
00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,200
Speaker 3: around the league, and we really wanted to allow him

34
00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,600
Speaker 3: to flirt in that in that role.

35
00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:02,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

36
00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,760
Speaker 3: So miss Amy and Burke ny Hill. Uh, they came

37
00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,760
Speaker 3: to me and and and said they'd like to create

38
00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,320
Speaker 3: this new structure. Obviously Ram was in supportive of this,

39
00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,440
Speaker 3: and essentially everything around that, uh when it comes to

40
00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,919
Speaker 3: football operations from the cat management uh, to analytics UH,

41
00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,760
Speaker 3: to the team operations which includes the security and grounds,

42
00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,959
Speaker 3: football information system software uh PR communications, all that stuff.

43
00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,880
Speaker 3: I mean, the NFL is becoming very complex, multifaceted. It's

44
00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,440
Speaker 3: just a big business right now. And it's hard enough

45
00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,799
Speaker 3: to pick these players and build a roster and you

46
00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,639
Speaker 3: add in all those other pieces, it just makes it really,

47
00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,080
Speaker 3: really tough. So it's good to have kind of attacked

48
00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,800
Speaker 3: this as a team in a in a collaborative environment,

49
00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,800
Speaker 3: and that's what miss Amy really wanted to create. And

50
00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,560
Speaker 3: she's been at the forefront of this and thinking about this,

51
00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,799
Speaker 3: I guess for some time now, but you know, it

52
00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,000
Speaker 3: just presented as oportunity this year and she made the change.

53
00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,360
Speaker 3: And you know, we found out about this, you know,

54
00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,000
Speaker 3: just just a week ago or whatever it's been now,

55
00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,320
Speaker 3: and we're excited about it. We're excited about the new

56
00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,280
Speaker 3: structure of moving the Titans into the future.

57
00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,200
Speaker 4: When you look at your responsibilities, you said, cap is

58
00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,560
Speaker 4: also one of those two. And that's one of the

59
00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,360
Speaker 4: things that you guys have this year is a little

60
00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,239
Speaker 4: bit of spending, right that you're capable of doing. How

61
00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,840
Speaker 4: can you be smart about that as far as not

62
00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,760
Speaker 4: taking everybody's a list guy, and sometime it may just

63
00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,480
Speaker 4: have to be what fits the team.

64
00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

65
00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,760
Speaker 3: When you when you look at this free agency, and

66
00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,480
Speaker 3: I know that's what you're speaking about, You've got a

67
00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,680
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of cap room this year.

68
00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:38,840
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful.

69
00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,920
Speaker 3: I mean there's gotta be players to spend the money on, right,

70
00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,960
Speaker 3: You can't just just spend it just to spend it.

71
00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,640
Speaker 3: But when you look at free agency, there there's a

72
00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,520
Speaker 3: lot of different ways to acquire a player. One of

73
00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,160
Speaker 3: them is free agency. Now those are proven players. It's

74
00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,440
Speaker 3: you're paying a premium and it's expensive, right, but you're

75
00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:57,320
Speaker 3: getting a proven player.

76
00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,080
Speaker 2: You know what you're getting.

77
00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,920
Speaker 3: It's kind of like I like to say, you know,

78
00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,520
Speaker 3: there's two products that I love in my life, Apple

79
00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,120
Speaker 3: and brightening watches. Right, so I'm willing to pay retail

80
00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,360
Speaker 3: for those things. I know it's predictable, it's it's the

81
00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,200
Speaker 3: high performance. I know exactly what I'm getting. When you

82
00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,640
Speaker 3: look at the draft that's wholesale. Uh, there's there's a

83
00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,480
Speaker 3: potential that's cheap as well as you have the potential

84
00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,800
Speaker 3: to hit big in that area. And then there's a

85
00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,200
Speaker 3: part in free agency that a lot of people forget about,

86
00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,040
Speaker 3: and that's cap Casualties. I like to equate that if

87
00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,279
Speaker 3: we can continue the theme here of products and and

88
00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,839
Speaker 3: things of that nature. Well, my wife loves Costco and

89
00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,600
Speaker 3: so do I. It's you know, cap Casualties is like

90
00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,960
Speaker 3: going to Costco. You're gonna get a really good product

91
00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,560
Speaker 3: at a good value. And and that's another area that

92
00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,600
Speaker 3: you can play as you build a roster. So when

93
00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,360
Speaker 3: it comes to the cap management side, sure, yeah, we're

94
00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,280
Speaker 3: we're in a better spot this year than we were

95
00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,000
Speaker 3: last year. We're excited about where we are, but we

96
00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,040
Speaker 3: also it's it's it's about adding impact players. Whether it's

97
00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,440
Speaker 3: through free agency or through the draft. We're trying to

98
00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,600
Speaker 3: add impact players. And when it comes to free agency,

99
00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,240
Speaker 3: you're gonay premium for that, and a lot of times

100
00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,120
Speaker 3: these teams don't let those guys go. So we gotta

101
00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,640
Speaker 3: be really smart about it and find those players not

102
00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,240
Speaker 3: only that can impact our roster, but also there's some

103
00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,080
Speaker 3: good depth signings you can find throughout the freezing process

104
00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,200
Speaker 3: as well.

105
00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,479
Speaker 5: You know, as a former head coach, Chad, I would

106
00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,040
Speaker 5: love to have had this flow chart set up when

107
00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,720
Speaker 5: I took something over, because you're right, it's such a

108
00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,039
Speaker 5: massive responsibility not only for not only for a head coach,

109
00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,640
Speaker 5: but then to try to intertwine what a general manager

110
00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,800
Speaker 5: and a head coach do and then all the other

111
00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,120
Speaker 5: operations that going around it. That's under your purview now,

112
00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,080
Speaker 5: and to me, you bring a unique skill set because

113
00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,880
Speaker 5: you've been a scout too, and you understand that aspect

114
00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,599
Speaker 5: of it. Towards that aspect of it, we're looking at

115
00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,520
Speaker 5: a draft right now that still has all all of

116
00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,120
Speaker 5: those all of those COVID players that have an extra year.

117
00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,320
Speaker 5: Now we're getting younger players being able to come into that.

118
00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,840
Speaker 5: How do you see that stacking up right now? It's

119
00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,120
Speaker 5: a it's different because used to be you could kind

120
00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,200
Speaker 5: of decide who was coming in, who was going to

121
00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,080
Speaker 5: be out, who's availed. It's a hodge podge now of people.

122
00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,599
Speaker 5: How do you see that fitting now?

123
00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,080
Speaker 3: You know, I think as a scout, you're you're, yeah,

124
00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,280
Speaker 3: the the classes are getting bigger. There's a lot more

125
00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,520
Speaker 3: players in those draft classes. And we're also seeing because

126
00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,560
Speaker 3: of NIL some of these players that are could potentially

127
00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,000
Speaker 3: be your third fourth round type players. These are still

128
00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,400
Speaker 3: premium picks. They're decigned to go deciding to go back

129
00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,640
Speaker 3: to school. They're making pretty good money, you know, playing

130
00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,560
Speaker 3: college football. Uh, so they'll you know, maybe it's a

131
00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,800
Speaker 3: year in the draft where that particular position is really strong.

132
00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,719
Speaker 3: So these players are opting that maybe a mid round,

133
00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,200
Speaker 3: late round pick to go back to their colleges. So

134
00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,120
Speaker 3: you're dealing with that on top of a large class.

135
00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,800
Speaker 3: And that's what's great about being down here at the

136
00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,760
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl. It's one of my favorite weeks in all scouting,

137
00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,760
Speaker 3: always has been. I really enjoy this week, you know,

138
00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,960
Speaker 3: because a lot of the heavy lifting has been done,

139
00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,920
Speaker 3: a lot of these scouts have already put submitted their

140
00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,839
Speaker 3: scouting reports. They you know, now we get the opportunity

141
00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,239
Speaker 3: to come down and see these players in a control,

142
00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,240
Speaker 3: competitive environment against players from other schools. See what they

143
00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,200
Speaker 3: look like physically, see how they move, see the athleticism,

144
00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,960
Speaker 3: the agility, the explosiveness, the speed, how they compete, how

145
00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,520
Speaker 3: they interact with their teammates. I mean, it's a really

146
00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,120
Speaker 3: fun week. Not to mention the food. The food is

147
00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,400
Speaker 3: excellent in this town. That's what you know. Where I

148
00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,000
Speaker 3: used to be, it was a Green Bay, right, you know,

149
00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,720
Speaker 3: I spent all those years in Green Bay, and this

150
00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,360
Speaker 3: time of year is not a great time of year

151
00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,360
Speaker 3: to be in Green Bay. So if anytime you come

152
00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,720
Speaker 3: down south and you can watch some guys practice and

153
00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,480
Speaker 3: play some football and get some good food, sign me up.

154
00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:33,120
Speaker 2: Well.

155
00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,480
Speaker 5: And to me you're talking about and the asset allocation,

156
00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,800
Speaker 5: I think that's a fascinating part of the National Football

157
00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,960
Speaker 5: League now because it's going to be different, It's going

158
00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,720
Speaker 5: to be, you know, extremely different.

159
00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,800
Speaker 6: But being able to.

160
00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,280
Speaker 5: Take that off of I mean again, when I was

161
00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,280
Speaker 5: a head coach, I had the cap we had, didn't

162
00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,080
Speaker 5: have a general manager, I mean, and that door shuts

163
00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,119
Speaker 5: you feel pretty alone. I mean, I would have loved

164
00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,240
Speaker 5: to have had this to me. That flow chart that

165
00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,400
Speaker 5: you guys have put together, now that's deal.

166
00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's like I said that, the

167
00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,720
Speaker 3: league's evolving. I think you're going to see this a

168
00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,040
Speaker 3: little more as we progress over the next two, three, four,

169
00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,840
Speaker 3: five years. You're gonna see a lot of teams this

170
00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,560
Speaker 3: copycat lead, you know that, and you're gonna see a

171
00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,520
Speaker 3: lot of teams try to mimic at especially if we

172
00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,440
Speaker 3: have success in this structure. So we're we're excited about it.

173
00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,760
Speaker 3: I know Ram's excited about it. I am as well,

174
00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,640
Speaker 3: getting the opportunity to do something like this. Very fortunate

175
00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,200
Speaker 3: to have been trained in the place that I was trained.

176
00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,560
Speaker 3: You know, Green Bay is one of the cornerstone franchises

177
00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,240
Speaker 3: in the National Football League, one of the premier organizations

178
00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,280
Speaker 3: in the league. And I'm so thankful that I had

179
00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,360
Speaker 3: the opportunity to train there and and be mentored and

180
00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,840
Speaker 3: exposed to all the things that I was exposed to

181
00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,760
Speaker 3: in Green Bay. That's it's a really special place. They

182
00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,640
Speaker 3: don't just train scouts, it's a scout driven organization, but

183
00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,160
Speaker 3: they train you to be a personnel man. That is

184
00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,240
Speaker 3: really special. One of the special things about that place.

185
00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,960
Speaker 3: As well as they gave me an opportuntunity to work

186
00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,800
Speaker 3: on the salary cap and be involved in football's data

187
00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,880
Speaker 3: analytics and all the other things that really prepared me

188
00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,240
Speaker 3: for a role like this. So I owe a lot

189
00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,280
Speaker 3: to that organization. They gave me my start in this league,

190
00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,400
Speaker 3: and it's it's just one of those places that I

191
00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,280
Speaker 3: will always have a special place in my heart.

192
00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:16,800
Speaker 2: Chat.

193
00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:17,920
Speaker 7: I want to go back to what you said a

194
00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,960
Speaker 7: moment ago, and you spoke about how much you're looking

195
00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,400
Speaker 7: forward to this week and mobile with the Senior Bowl,

196
00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,360
Speaker 7: with the invitation now being accepted for and there's not

197
00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,720
Speaker 7: a ton of them, but there's some underclassmen. What changes

198
00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,040
Speaker 7: for you guys structurally and what does that do for

199
00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,600
Speaker 7: this week in terms of having some underclassmen involved in

200
00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,040
Speaker 7: this now?

201
00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's always a great thing because in

202
00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,800
Speaker 3: the past you didn't have a chance to see these

203
00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,839
Speaker 3: players live like this and in a competitive environment like this,

204
00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,680
Speaker 3: to unlike the combine, just like that, y, that's the

205
00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,280
Speaker 3: first time we normally get our eye and you know,

206
00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,760
Speaker 3: lay eyes on them. Unless you know, a lot of

207
00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,760
Speaker 3: times we're pretty smart. We go into a school and

208
00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,400
Speaker 3: you're looking at those underclassmen. You can't talk about them,

209
00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,040
Speaker 3: you can't bring them up in the meeting with the

210
00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,000
Speaker 3: coach or anything like that. But as a scout, I mean,

211
00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,120
Speaker 3: especially our area scouts, they know these players from the

212
00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,600
Speaker 3: time that they're freshmen all the way through, so they're prepared.

213
00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,360
Speaker 3: And that's the great thing. I always tell our area scouts.

214
00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,440
Speaker 3: They have such an important job. I mean it's they're

215
00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,599
Speaker 3: kind of underappreciated and unheralded and all the things go

216
00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,040
Speaker 3: with that, but it the lifeblood of the organization runs

217
00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,920
Speaker 3: through the draft, and those area scouts are such a

218
00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,120
Speaker 3: key to what we're doing. I mean, they're the gms

219
00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,800
Speaker 3: of their areas. They're the ones that put the first

220
00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,640
Speaker 3: grade on that player. They're the ones that know more

221
00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,400
Speaker 3: than anybody in that room about that particular player, the

222
00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,760
Speaker 3: type of person they are, the type of teammate they are,

223
00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,280
Speaker 3: So we really count on our area scouts to bring

224
00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,960
Speaker 3: that information to the forefront. And this is just another

225
00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,640
Speaker 3: opportunity for us at a place like the Senior Bowl

226
00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,200
Speaker 3: to not only watch these guys practice and see how

227
00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,959
Speaker 3: they compete, but just like we were talking about before,

228
00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,959
Speaker 3: we came on an opportunity to interview all these players.

229
00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,240
Speaker 3: So that starts tonight and we'll start interviewing these players

230
00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,840
Speaker 3: and just get a feel for who they are as men.

231
00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,800
Speaker 7: Okay, with your new role as president of Football Operations,

232
00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,680
Speaker 7: how does that change your draft preparation going into this

233
00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,520
Speaker 7: twenty twenty four draft process?

234
00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,560
Speaker 3: You personally, there's a lot more on my plate, and

235
00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,439
Speaker 3: I'm excited about it, that's for sure. You know, we're

236
00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,800
Speaker 3: we have some some key leaders in those various roles

237
00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,000
Speaker 3: throughout the organization which will allow me to assist and

238
00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,120
Speaker 3: support and help ran and and Anthony Robinson in this process.

239
00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,439
Speaker 3: How much is it going to change? You know, I'm

240
00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,680
Speaker 3: a scout at heart. I'm going to continue to scout,

241
00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,480
Speaker 3: continue to help with the evaluation part of this and

242
00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,080
Speaker 3: and influence where I can maybe, you know, going into

243
00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,000
Speaker 3: next year, what's going to change? I'm not going to

244
00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,160
Speaker 3: the university on the Illinois and finding the seventh round

245
00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,360
Speaker 3: sleeper anymore. That's what's happening is I'm I'm probably going

246
00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,760
Speaker 3: to be able to see, you know, really the top

247
00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,679
Speaker 3: talent at the collegiate level and even the NFL level

248
00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,440
Speaker 3: when it comes into free agency. So it might be

249
00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,440
Speaker 3: more of a hey, Chad, here here, here are five

250
00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,120
Speaker 3: guys that we're thinking of. Can you take a look

251
00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,199
Speaker 3: at them and let us know what you're thinking versus

252
00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,040
Speaker 3: me going into a school like I don't know where

253
00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,360
Speaker 3: I went to school, hiwo University, a max school and

254
00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,040
Speaker 3: writing up six seven players who really probably are free.

255
00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,800
Speaker 2: Agent type guys. So my role will change a little

256
00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,560
Speaker 2: bit in that regard.

257
00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,960
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, we're scouting, you know,

258
00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,440
Speaker 3: and I'm a scout at heart, and I don't think

259
00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,480
Speaker 3: a whole lot is going to change from that standpoint,

260
00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,000
Speaker 3: other than I do have a lot more responsibilities as

261
00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,800
Speaker 3: far as just handling all the different functions of the

262
00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,480
Speaker 3: organization and getting everybody on the same page and having

263
00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,440
Speaker 3: everybody work and and and come together as one team.

264
00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,239
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the goal. Let's break down these barriers.

265
00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,880
Speaker 3: The silos got to go away. We got to come

266
00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,880
Speaker 3: together as one team, you know, building a championshipship team

267
00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,959
Speaker 3: as a process, and it's just it's just helping everyone

268
00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,440
Speaker 3: push each other to get better every single day and

269
00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,040
Speaker 3: be pulling in the same direction so that we're a

270
00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,760
Speaker 3: to execute at a high, high level.

271
00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,480
Speaker 1: Chad Brinker, how did your relationship with Rand Carthon come

272
00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:06,760
Speaker 1: to be?

273
00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. It's interesting. You know, Ran

274
00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,120
Speaker 3: and I, uh, we actually played against each other in college.

275
00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,960
Speaker 2: He was at the University of Florida.

276
00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,120
Speaker 3: I was a junior running back at Florida and I

277
00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,240
Speaker 3: was at a little Ohio university and we came down

278
00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,160
Speaker 3: there in week two or something like that, and I

279
00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,920
Speaker 3: was a senior running back and that was the first

280
00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,079
Speaker 3: time we had cross passed.

281
00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,240
Speaker 2: Running Backs are players. They always know other.

282
00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,280
Speaker 3: Players, especially good players that that that you're up against.

283
00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,559
Speaker 3: But that's where I first knew about Ran. We didn't

284
00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,880
Speaker 3: know each other until we got in this business. And

285
00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,440
Speaker 3: it's just a small world. Everybody knows everybody in this world.

286
00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,640
Speaker 3: And and you cross pass, and we we had cross pass,

287
00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,959
Speaker 3: you know, throughout our you know, decade and a half

288
00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,520
Speaker 3: together in this league. And we just had a mutual

289
00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,280
Speaker 3: respect for one another. And I am so appreciative of Ran.

290
00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,400
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of times when a head coach

291
00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,600
Speaker 3: or a GM takes over a team, they they have

292
00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,760
Speaker 3: their op lieutenants in place. They've already had these conversations

293
00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,400
Speaker 3: years and years before it actually happening. Ran and I

294
00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,719
Speaker 3: never had that conversation. We never had dinner together, we

295
00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,800
Speaker 3: never broke bread together. Prior to that, we just had

296
00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,200
Speaker 3: a mutual respect. We would talk to each other maybe

297
00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,000
Speaker 3: once or twice a year about trades or various things

298
00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,080
Speaker 3: throughout the year. But Ran when he when he came here,

299
00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,440
Speaker 3: and I really respect this. You know, he wanted to

300
00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,360
Speaker 3: build an all star staff as well, and he went

301
00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,840
Speaker 3: out and said, okay, who's the best at what they do?

302
00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,480
Speaker 3: And he did a lot of research on the back end,

303
00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,880
Speaker 3: and for whatever reason he landed on me. He gave

304
00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:41,440
Speaker 3: me the opportunity. And I think I complimented the strengths.

305
00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,680
Speaker 3: You know, we compliment compliment each other very well as

306
00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,840
Speaker 3: far as our strengths and weaknesses. And it was just

307
00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,960
Speaker 3: the right fit. And when we met each other, we

308
00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,240
Speaker 3: just clicked. It was like we're long lost brothers. It

309
00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,840
Speaker 3: just it just works. He's a tremendous human being. For

310
00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,920
Speaker 3: the people that don't know, I mean, he's one of

311
00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,640
Speaker 3: the best people to walk on this earth. He's such

312
00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,320
Speaker 3: a wonderful person. And everybody's been hearing about the relationship

313
00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,160
Speaker 3: side of Rand. That's real. I've never seen anything like it.

314
00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,320
Speaker 3: I wish our fan base and the folks even in

315
00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,000
Speaker 3: our own own building can work with him every day.

316
00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,160
Speaker 3: The way I get to and to see the impact

317
00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,960
Speaker 3: that he has had on this league and the amount

318
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,280
Speaker 3: of people that he is able to call that they

319
00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,280
Speaker 3: pick up the phone on the first ring are the

320
00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,400
Speaker 3: people that have been calling him throughout this process of change.

321
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,720
Speaker 3: It's simply amazing and it led to us, you know,

322
00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,840
Speaker 3: getting a pretty good head coach.

323
00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,560
Speaker 4: I think, Chad, when you talk about the positions and

324
00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,360
Speaker 4: titles that people have now in the building, yourself and

325
00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,200
Speaker 4: just Ran and how you separate front off or some

326
00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,040
Speaker 4: of the coaches, why is that important for the people

327
00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,040
Speaker 4: that don't understand why you do what you're doing. Rand

328
00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,960
Speaker 4: does what he does and coach Callahan will handle the field.

329
00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:49,960
Speaker 4: Why is that important?

330
00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

331
00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,960
Speaker 3: I think you know, this league is designed to pull

332
00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,800
Speaker 3: everybody toward mediocrity. And I spent a long time in

333
00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,120
Speaker 3: an organization that was really successful and with everybody pulling

334
00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,000
Speaker 3: in the same direction. With a Hall of Fame quarterback,

335
00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,240
Speaker 3: when you know when you step into the start of

336
00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,520
Speaker 3: a season with an Aaron Rodgers, You've got ten wins automatically,

337
00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,080
Speaker 3: it is really really hard to.

338
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:14,880
Speaker 2: Win in this league.

339
00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,480
Speaker 3: And I think that you have to really define these

340
00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,000
Speaker 3: roles and find out what people are really good at

341
00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,880
Speaker 3: and what their strong suits are and accentuate that and allow.

342
00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,240
Speaker 2: Them to flourish in those areas.

343
00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,440
Speaker 3: So to answer your question, yet, I think it's defining

344
00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,600
Speaker 3: these roles and having people be put in a place

345
00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,160
Speaker 3: where they can be at their best. And that's the

346
00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,920
Speaker 3: you know, the exciting thing about being in a position

347
00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,040
Speaker 3: that I am, because that's really what I'm trying to do.

348
00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,440
Speaker 3: I'm trying to drive the culture every single day. I'm

349
00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,720
Speaker 3: trying to help people be their best every single day.

350
00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,240
Speaker 3: And there's a lot that goes into that. I want, Hey,

351
00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,000
Speaker 3: we're going to be demanding, but we're not going to

352
00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,880
Speaker 3: be demeaning, right, We're going to build an organization with

353
00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,600
Speaker 3: a championship mindset. We want our people to be excited

354
00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,040
Speaker 3: to come into work every single day. We want people

355
00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,800
Speaker 3: to have a voice in our building. We want healthy

356
00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,960
Speaker 3: debate in the room. We want to lead with questions

357
00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,160
Speaker 3: and not answers, and just having that high impact, low

358
00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,560
Speaker 3: ego type environment. So that's what we're trying to build.

359
00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,760
Speaker 3: And everybody has specific roles and let's allow them to

360
00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,600
Speaker 3: flourish in that role. Not everybody can be the star quarterback,

361
00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,560
Speaker 3: as we know, right, but there's a role for that

362
00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,080
Speaker 3: person who who plays a little bit of slot receiver

363
00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,240
Speaker 3: and return punts and maybe you throw him out there

364
00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,840
Speaker 3: on you know, nickel defense at times. So we just

365
00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,080
Speaker 3: got to find those roles and allow people to be

366
00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,840
Speaker 3: their best, to understand what their strengths are.

367
00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:38,199
Speaker 1: You know.

368
00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,439
Speaker 5: And to me, let me just sec at this what

369
00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,520
Speaker 5: you said about the general manager's character and personality.

370
00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,400
Speaker 6: I work very closely with him, you know.

371
00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,240
Speaker 5: For five years at Saint Louis in LA and we

372
00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,160
Speaker 5: were trying to get an organization that anyway to move

373
00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,120
Speaker 5: it up. But the thing that ran in genders when

374
00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,720
Speaker 5: you get face to face, like we all are here

375
00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,200
Speaker 5: to get the in genders trust trust Because he's completely

376
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,639
Speaker 5: honest with what he does and he's.

377
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,600
Speaker 6: Straightforward and really really a bright guy.

378
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,520
Speaker 5: So that to me that to me is a nice compliment.

379
00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,560
Speaker 5: I want to go back to the draft now because

380
00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,760
Speaker 5: I think it's important talk to the people because I

381
00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:15,600
Speaker 5: know what you've done.

382
00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,760
Speaker 6: You're still a scout at heart. You told us that.

383
00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,520
Speaker 5: Talk to us a little bit about the period in

384
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,280
Speaker 5: time that you guys have just worked on that maybe

385
00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,240
Speaker 5: our ot people don't quite know about. That's really important

386
00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,800
Speaker 5: when the draft comes through. You just finished your backboard.

387
00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,119
Speaker 5: Explain a little bit what the backboard is.

388
00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:34,080
Speaker 6: Yeah. Sure.

389
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,760
Speaker 3: So we had our area of scouts come in in

390
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,640
Speaker 3: December and we spent time on the prospects that are

391
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:46,199
Speaker 3: considered your priority free agents or late round type draft picks,

392
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,200
Speaker 3: and we go through a week of going through character

393
00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,159
Speaker 3: background as well as watching tape on those players and

394
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,040
Speaker 3: starting to stack them by position. That's what the backboard

395
00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,760
Speaker 3: work looks like. So a lot of that heavy lifting

396
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,879
Speaker 3: has been done from that standpoint. And then when you

397
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,800
Speaker 3: come to these All Star games, there will be backboard

398
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 3: players here at the Senior boy as they are and

399
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,880
Speaker 3: a lot of these All Star games, but there's gonna

400
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,840
Speaker 3: be a lot of front board players at an All

401
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,919
Speaker 3: Star game like this, and it gives us another opportunity

402
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 3: to get another exposure of the player. But what's coming

403
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,360
Speaker 3: up next to your question, the combine and our scouts

404
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,800
Speaker 3: will will come in here in a few weeks. I

405
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,880
Speaker 3: think we start the first week of February and we'll

406
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 3: spend two or three weeks together in the draft room

407
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 3: and going through every prospect in the country that we

408
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,639
Speaker 3: have a draftable grade on, and our our area scouts

409
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 3: will go through the character background. We'll watch the tape together,

410
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 3: and we'll start stacking the board by position.

411
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 6: Well.

412
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,399
Speaker 5: And the reason I asked that is just for the

413
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 5: for the people listening. I think a lot of people

414
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,360
Speaker 5: have a misconception about the draft and about free agents

415
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 5: is that you know, at the end of the draft,

416
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 5: you just start throwing darts at a board and say,

417
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 5: this guy sounds good, you know, But there's a lot

418
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 5: of work. I mean, I did for a long time.

419
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 5: There's a lot of work that go into free agents,

420
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 5: and I just I just wanted to bring that up

421
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 5: because as highly organized as you guys are, I know

422
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 5: I know what that work is like, and I just

423
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 5: I just wanted you to make that clear for the

424
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 5: people because.

425
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 6: People don't understand that.

426
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 5: They just think free agency is something that's just is

427
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 5: an afterthought, and it's really not.

428
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: No, it's you know, we we talk about this a

429
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 3: lot when you when you hire a new head coach

430
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 3: or you're a new GM that comes into an organization,

431
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,479
Speaker 3: the first thing that you're going to deal with is

432
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 3: the salary cap and free agency. And you better know

433
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 3: the cap and you better know free agency, and yeah,

434
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 3: there's you know, at some point you kind of want

435
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 3: to get out of the business of of uh, you know,

436
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 3: the first wave of free agency. You really want to

437
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 3: build your team through the draft. I mean that's Rand

438
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 3: and I that's our background. That's where we come from philosophically.

439
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 3: We're built through the draft, develop our young players, and

440
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 3: retain our core performers. I mean, that's that's as simple

441
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 3: as that I can make it. A lot of teams

442
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 3: are trying to do that. The execution part is the

443
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,479
Speaker 3: part where you separate yourself from everybody else. So you

444
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: have to have a really good scouting process in place

445
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 3: through free agency as well as through the draft. But

446
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 3: you know, free agency is something that supplements your draft.

447
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,199
Speaker 3: You want to build the core of your roster, the

448
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 3: core of your team through the draft. I mean, you know,

449
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 3: you look at some of the best teams in the

450
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 3: league this year, whether it's Kansas City or San Francisco,

451
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 3: who's getting ready to play in the Super Bowl, to

452
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 3: what Baltimore and Detroit has done, the consistency in the

453
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens and even from where I came from, Green Bay.

454
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 3: I mean, that was the youngest team in the league

455
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 3: this year and they made a run. I mean they

456
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 3: gave San Francisco everything they had with a team I

457
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: think it was averaging.

458
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: About twenty four years old as a roster. So that's

459
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: the way. It's a young man's game.

460
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 3: I mean, you talk to some of these old coaches

461
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 3: or even old players, they know this is a young

462
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 3: man's game. And that's why this week is so important

463
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 3: to us. That's why the draft is so important. But

464
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 3: also free agencies there.

465
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 2: To be used.

466
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 3: It's a tool that you can use to supplement your rush.

467
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 7: Chat. Let's talk about the sports science part of this

468
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 7: for a minute. How is the buildout of the analytics

469
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 7: department going? And then where will we see those kinds

470
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 7: of things manifest themselves throughout this organization.

471
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I know where we're going to be three

472
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 3: years from now is definitely not where we are today.

473
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 3: We have we hired Sarah Bailey from the Los Angeles

474
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 3: Rams last year and she has come in. I think

475
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 3: it'd be great for the fan base to get to

476
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 3: know her a little bit what she's doing.

477
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: She's really special.

478
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 3: She's extremely smart and knows the game inside and out,

479
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 3: has a mathematics background, statistics background, and has been really

480
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: instrumental in getting this department off the ground.

481
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 2: I kind of look at it as like a startup,

482
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: to be honest.

483
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 3: I mean it's when we came in here, it just

484
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: wasn't a whole lot and there's a lot of work

485
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 3: to do, cleaning the data, getting it into a place,

486
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 3: put it in models where we can even run some

487
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 3: of the analytics. So we are making progress as far

488
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: as when it comes to predicting performance in the National

489
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 3: Football League or athletics score, when it comes to all

490
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: the combined numbers and all those things that come in.

491
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 3: But we're eventually going to get to some some spot

492
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: where we're using AI and and and more advanced analytics,

493
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 3: but we're not there yet. It's going to take some

494
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 3: time to build that out. We will be adding to

495
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: our department and evolving and growing that department with a

496
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: few more analysts, data engineer, and and but at the

497
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 3: same time, we want a department of doers. We're not

498
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 3: looking to hire the mi t s and Harvard's the

499
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,239
Speaker 3: very expensive, you know PhDs. We want people that's going

500
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: to come in and actually work and be part of

501
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,719
Speaker 3: a startup community and try to build this thing from

502
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 3: the ground up. So that's that's kind of where it's at.

503
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: But how does the sports science fit in. There's a

504
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 3: there's a model that you'll see in the military as

505
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: well as in some other sports that they call it

506
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 3: sometimes the integrated high Performance model or maybe the Athletic

507
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 3: Performance Model. And what that essentially is is is trying

508
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: to people probably you, as I explained this, theyk wow,

509
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: they don't.

510
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 2: Do that yet. But it's it's it's real.

511
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the National Football League and there are

512
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: teams that are doing this, but not all of them

513
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 3: are doing it. And we're moving in this direction where

514
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 3: you're going to have someone who is really ahead of

515
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 3: athlete training, ahead of rehab, ahead of a sports science,

516
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: ahead of nutrition, ahead of mental health. Well, how do

517
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: we get all those departments working together and holistically working

518
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 3: together and keeping the athlete at the forefront and communicating

519
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 3: there's not going to be Hey, I go in the

520
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 3: weight room and the strength coach told me this, The

521
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: trainer told me that, and the nutrition nutrition has said this. No,

522
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 3: we're all going to be working together. The integrative high

523
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 3: performance model is something that's going to be implemented here

524
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 3: in Tennessee as we move forward. But ultimately, this is

525
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 3: Brian Callahan's I mean, this is this is his coaching staff,

526
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: his roster. We're working together. He's done some of this,

527
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: maybe not to that level at Cincinnati, but I know

528
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: we've had some conversations around it, and he's excited about

529
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: you know, just it's about It's about the athlete. It's

530
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: about the football player. We can't forget we are football factory.

531
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 3: We produce football players, and we need to make sure

532
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: every decision we make in this organization has the athlete

533
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: in mind. So I think the integration of all those departments,

534
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 3: along with Sarah Bailey and the analytics is a great thing.

535
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: It's going to be a big thing for sports science.

536
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: But also, you know, Coach Callahan will hire a game

537
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 3: manager as well, or a game management type coach that

538
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: will work in conjunction with our analytics staff as well,

539
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 3: and we'll have people on the analytics staff that may

540
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: be more focused on personnel, one person may be more

541
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 3: focused on coaching, and another on sports science. With all

542
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 3: the technology going on right now, we'd love to have

543
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: someone in the weight room that's handling the catapult of

544
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: the Zebra, the devices that are used today in tracking

545
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: the loads, management how many yards a player runs during practice,

546
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 3: and understanding and doing a lot of the injury prevention thing.

547
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: I mean, it's exciting now. We're not there yet, but

548
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 3: we're building it.

549
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 6: Wow.

550
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: Seat geek is now the official ticketing partner of the

551
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Whether you're buying or selling tickets to a

552
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: Titan's game or any other live event in Nashville, seat

553
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: geek is the place to do it. Skeet Geek the

554
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: new official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. So Titans Fans,

555
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: Ken Fan The OTP with Chad Brinker continues, I know

556
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: it's been a few days now, but if you can

557
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: share with the ot people, because this is the Official

558
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: Titans Podcast, how did you get to Brian Callahan as

559
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: the new head coach?

560
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 3: You know, the coaching serious of my second coaching search

561
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: that I've been a part of. I was on the

562
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: proofial in Green Bay when we went from Mike McCarthy

563
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: to Matt Lafleur, so I had a little bit of

564
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 3: an idea of how to approach this. And when we

565
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: sat down and Ran and myself, Anthony Robinson and then

566
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: obviously Burke night Hill was involved, Amy and Bryce Wasserman,

567
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 3: we had we had a group that that we put together,

568
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 3: this committee and started doing this research. I remember sitting

569
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 3: in Rand's office and we who had just started and

570
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, the Brian Callahan name kept they

571
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: just coming to the forefront. The more research that we did,

572
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: the more we looked into it, the more people that

573
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: you talk to. I mean, he is highly regarded around

574
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 3: the league. When you all get to spend time with him,

575
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: When this fan base will get to know Brian, they're

576
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: gonna love him. He is a tremendous person, a wonderful

577
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: human being. He just felt like one.

578
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: Of us, right.

579
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: But as far as the process concerned, those were the

580
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 3: people that were involved. Kenneth Adams was in there as

581
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 3: well for the second round of interviews. We had ownership

582
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: in but it was a very detailed process. We did

583
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: a lot of research on the front end, not only

584
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: in the candidates, but also how do we go about

585
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: selecting a head coach. What type of questions are we

586
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: going to ask in what categories and what order all

587
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 3: the things that go with that. So it's a very

588
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: detailed process. But Brian from day one, the first zoom

589
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 3: that we had with him, I think it was three hours,

590
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 3: whatever it was. I mean, he just jumped off the zoom.

591
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: He had a I would say that he was the

592
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: most complete candidate.

593
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

594
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: He just he was ready, and I know he's gone

595
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: through some interviews. We even got calls from from teams

596
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 3: that interviewed him last year and say, hey, you're really

597
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: gonna like Brian Callahan.

598
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 2: I mean he was.

599
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: He was really close to being our head coach as well. So,

600
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: I mean, just a tremendous person, tremendous coach. Everybody knows

601
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 3: his background and experiences with all these quarterbacks over the years,

602
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: and that obviously being with Cincinnati last five years at

603
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator.

604
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: He just he was a complete candidate.

605
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 4: Chad, you mentioned you've been in Green Bay and the

606
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 4: quarterback that you guys had and how you build up

607
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: a roster to wear you're competing each and every year.

608
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: That that is the thing I have to ask you,

609
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: because you've built rosters, been around great guys, how far

610
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 4: is a team ever from actually being a deep playoff

611
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 4: run team? Because I know it takes time. You guys

612
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 4: have had a reset in Nashville, we've had a reset.

613
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: How long or how far is a team away from

614
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 4: being that type of squad that you witnessed in Green

615
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: Bay on the constant year to year basis.

616
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think in my years in this league, I've

617
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: heard people say we're just you know, one player away.

618
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 3: It's never the case. Yeah, every year is different. I

619
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: don't know if any if you've been paying attention to

620
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: what just happened over the weekend, what Dan Campbell has

621
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: said recently.

622
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: There's no guarantee. He said, there's no guarantee.

623
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: We'll be back here, and I think people are just

624
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: you know, man, look at Detroit young team, a team

625
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: that's on the rise. They're going to be in this

626
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: every year, but there's no guarantee. There's injuries that happen,

627
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: there's coaching changes that happen, and there's just a lot

628
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: of things that go into this. That's what I was

629
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 3: talking about earlier, like this league is just designed to

630
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: pull everybody toward mediocrity.

631
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: It's a reset every year.

632
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: But I do believe if you have a good process,

633
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: if you have a really good process, especially a scouting process,

634
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: that you have a chance. If you have the quarterback,

635
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: you have a chance. Ron Wolf used to say this

636
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: in Green Bay. I've heard it. It's been ingrained in

637
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: me from day one. Is if you don't have a

638
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: quarter back, a high level one, forget about it. Don't

639
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: make any plans that you're going to the super Bowl

640
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: anytime soon. So that's just the way I was trained.

641
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: I know it's been done with average to above average quarterbacks.

642
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: If you have a eighty five Bears defense or the

643
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens defense, when they want it, you can do it.

644
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: And Reggie McKenzie, who I worked with as well, he's

645
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: one of my mentors in this business. I remember he said, Chad,

646
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: when you take over an organization, you got to get

647
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: a winner at quarterback, no doubt. But the fastest way

648
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: to get competitive as quickly as possible is build.

649
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: A dominant defense.

650
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: So I think you know, philosophically, yeah, you build it

651
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: from the inside out, in front the back. I mean

652
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 3: it starts in the trenches. The games are won and

653
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: lost in the trenches. But I don't know if that's

654
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 3: that's answering your question there.

655
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: But because you look at this past, you look at

656
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: the championship, the conference championship. We just watched right and

657
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 4: one thing was apparent and coach Mack and I rolled

658
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: down here and we talked about this. Every team in

659
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: the final four had this a D defense, bigs and

660
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 4: a quarterback. Even brock Party as mister irrelevant, the plays

661
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: that he made in the game, you can't say that

662
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 4: they don't have their guy. And it's usually Andrew's getting

663
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: past that bad coaching decisions or boneheaded plays that we

664
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 4: saw Baltimore make right when you get unsportsman like conducts.

665
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: But it's really fine when you look at it.

666
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: But it does start, in my opinion, with your bigs

667
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: in a defense, and the quarterback is a huge compliment.

668
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: But I mean, potential MVP this year is not playing

669
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: in the super Bowl, right.

670
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

671
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: The quarterback position is the key, you know, it's it's

672
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: it's best to draft one when you don't need one.

673
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: And that was Another thing I was taught for years

674
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: in Green Bay is every two to three years you

675
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: need to be drafting quarterbacks and develop them. You got

676
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 3: to constantly be developing them. I know Ryan and I

677
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: we've had a lot of conversations just around philosophically how

678
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: to build a football team, and we're just still aligned.

679
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: He and I and you know, ran to about he

680
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: has this acronym fit fast, instinctive and tough football players.

681
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 3: And I love that. I was like, man, I love that.

682
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: It's that's kind of an identity of the team that

683
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: you want to build. Because this league, I mean you've

684
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: got to be big and fast. I mean size and

685
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: speed matters. You have to have premium players at premium

686
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: positions that make critical plays and critical moments of the game.

687
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the formula, Like what it takes

688
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: to win is simple, but it isn't easy, right, we

689
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: all heard that term before. It's it's hard to win

690
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: this league. But it all starts with the quarterback. We're

691
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: excited about the one that we have and Will Levis,

692
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he has all the physical tools.

693
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: The guy.

694
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just is impressive the way that he

695
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: doesn't need much space in the pocket, there can be

696
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: people around his feet and he can make every throw

697
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: on that field. Now, we'll continue to develop him, continue

698
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: to work with him, and there's a lot he still

699
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: has to learn to play at a high level in

700
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: this league. But he has all the physical tools. And

701
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: the makeup of the person is the person as well.

702
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 5: You know, when I first got into this league, somebody,

703
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: a real learned coach, told me, you know, when you

704
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 5: get your team, if you don't have a quarterback, what

705
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 5: you really have as a highly paid rugby team, you know,

706
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 5: And so so to me, to me, we're all saying,

707
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 5: we're all saying the same thing.

708
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 7: Chad reading about you. It was a great piece that

709
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 7: a guy put out about you a few weeks ago

710
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 7: in the Athletic and he put a piece in there

711
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 7: that said, the book Moneyball is what changed everything for you.

712
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 7: Is that true?

713
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: That's true? Yeah.

714
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: So I was in NFL Europe. I was an undrafted

715
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: free agent that in two thousand and three with the

716
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: New York Jets.

717
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: Terry Bradway was.

718
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: The general manager at the time, Herman was the head coach,

719
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: and they brought me in. Didn't make the team, and

720
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: then later in the season they resigned me and then

721
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: allocated me to the NFL Europe, And while playing in Europe,

722
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: I ended up getting injured and put on i R.

723
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: And at the.

724
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: Time, they sent all the players who were on injured

725
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: reserve to Birmingham, Alabama, which Hell South. That's where Hell

726
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: South was, and that's where we went when we were

727
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: on injured reserve. And Rachelle, my wife, was with me,

728
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 3: and we were in this hotel and I'm just bored

729
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: out of my mind, and you know, I'm a big

730
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: reader as is, and so we went to the bookstore.

731
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 3: And that's right around the time Moneyball came out pretty

732
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: close to it at least, and you know, I bought.

733
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: It and I devoured that book in like two days.

734
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: And I think people think it was about on base percentage,

735
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 3: but it was about marketing market efficiencies. I mean, it's

736
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: I was just really just blown away. I loved the

737
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: game of baseball actually as my best sport. I was

738
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 3: a better baseball player and I was a football player,

739
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: but I just loved hitting and too much and playing

740
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: the game of football and loved that, you know, the

741
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: team parts of the ultimate team sport, right, And but

742
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: I was reading that reading that book. I just started

743
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 3: think about, like, how how can we bring some of

744
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: of the analytics into football? But I was struggling to

745
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 3: really see the big picture because football is so interdependent.

746
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: I didn't really know how how this would work. And

747
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: I kind of kept it in mind but put it

748
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: on the shelf. And and then later it resurfaced. Why

749
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 3: while I was working with the Packers and I still

750
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: didn't really know how to apply analytics or you know,

751
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: how would this work?

752
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: And I would study and read.

753
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: Things, and I think people think that analytics just became

754
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: a football became part of football a few years ago.

755
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: That is first thing from the truth.

756
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: I mean, coach, you've been using analytics from the time

757
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: you were coaching, all right, yeah, so but there it

758
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: has evolved, and there are.

759
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: The technologies have evolved.

760
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: And what happened for me was while I was in

761
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 3: Green Bay, I think quite frankly.

762
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: Uh, I got a little stale.

763
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: I was I was wanting to take on more responsibilities,

764
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: but we had we kind of had our roster the

765
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: way was what I mean is is our staff roster.

766
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: There wasn't a lot of opportunity for me to move

767
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 3: up in the organization, and I went to our president,

768
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: Marc Murphy and Brian Gudikinsler GM and Russ ball Or

769
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: executive vice president, and I pitched him on, Hey, if

770
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: I can get into one of the top business schools

771
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: in the world, would you all support that? And I

772
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: put together presentation and for some reason and the reason

773
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: to me, they bought it and they gave me the

774
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 3: opportunity and now I had to go get into one

775
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 3: of those schools. So I ended up choosing Northwestern and

776
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: going to Kellogg. And while I was there, a big

777
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: reason why I wanted to go that route because I

778
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 3: wanted to understand what is happening out there in the

779
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 3: world from a technology standpoint. What is the financial industry

780
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: doing when it comes to the stock market, or what

781
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: is healthcare doing. I hear a lot about AI and healthcare.

782
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: What technologies are they using that maybe perhaps we can

783
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 3: bring back into football to help us get a competitive

784
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: advantage or gain some sort of edge. And that was

785
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: my original reason for going to Kelaw was to learn

786
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: that and bring it back so I can be the best,

787
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 3: you know, employee, executive whatever for the Green Bay Packers.

788
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 3: Not knowing that would lead me down the path and

789
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: where it led me down as far as the executive

790
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: leadership and the relationships that I met at a place

791
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: like that, as far as the students, because the program

792
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: I did was an executive NBA. So I think the

793
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: youngest person in the program might have been thirty five.

794
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: So people in that program's from all around the world.

795
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: This is a global MBA where we had people from

796
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: seven different campuses around the world. Yet some of the

797
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: brightest people in the world that were coming there to

798
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: just either network to maybe launch a new business or

799
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: others who were trying to pivot to something different and

800
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: others trying to, you know, take their career to the

801
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: next level, be a CEO of a fortune one hundred,

802
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: a fortune five hundred, whatever it may be. So I

803
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: got around a lot of really really smart people. And

804
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: one of the classmates I had had a PhD in

805
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: neuroscience from the University of Minnesota. He had an advanced

806
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: analytics degree from Oxford, and he helped design the AI

807
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: technology for one of the top medical device companies in

808
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: the country where it was the AI was used to

809
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: help the doctors identify cancer impatience. And I was just

810
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 3: fascinated by this, and so I took what was a

811
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: football problem and we put it in the context of

812
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: AI and one of the problems that we have in

813
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: football is we spend a lot of money on players

814
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: that don't pan out for injury. A lot of times

815
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: they get injured and you end up paying for them

816
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: injury settlements or you end up cutting them once they

817
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: get healthy. I was like, if we can reduce our

818
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: pool there, if we can reduce our risk within that

819
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: pool of players.

820
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that would be a game changer.

821
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: If you can save an owner a million two million

822
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: bucks off of one decision, I mean, that's a game changer.

823
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: So I got with these guys and we started to

824
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 3: attack the problem and make a long story short, we

825
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: were able to dev up some models that seem promising

826
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: now they're not. I mean, I'm going to sit here

827
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: and say, I think there's been a lot to do

828
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: made out of some of these models that that I was.

829
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 2: In part of building.

830
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 3: But there there there's an opportunity for us to enhance

831
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: those models and take it to another level within the

832
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: next three years within our own organization, which I'm excited about.

833
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: So that was a long way of answering this money answer.

834
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: Awesome But the whole thing, Chad, is when you talk

835
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: about all of that, your background is still your football player.

836
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: Martin's Ferry, Ohio. You're running back rush for over four

837
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: thousand yards. You go on and you play at Ohio University,

838
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: you rush for over twenty eight hundred yards, and so

839
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: you never forget the thing is the thing, and it's

840
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: still football.

841
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right.

842
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: I mean the game we can We're going to continue

843
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: to evolve and continue advance. But at the end of

844
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: the day, it still comes down to what coaches used

845
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: to tea each and coach blocking and tackling, right, I mean,

846
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 3: and having you got to have the players that can

847
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 3: rest the passer, and you've got to have the players

848
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: that can protect the passer. You got to have the

849
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: players that make the big plays in big games and

850
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: critical moments. I mean, it's just that's not going to change.

851
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 3: But I do think there are things when you are

852
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: building a roster that can help inform your decision making.

853
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: It doesn't drive it, but it can help or augment

854
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: your decision making.

855
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: I want to use it. I want to be part

856
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: of that.

857
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 3: We Uh, there's a methodology that I learned from these

858
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: guys at at Kellogg and who I'm still friends with today,

859
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 3: and they're doing big things in the world and changing

860
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: the world, and I'm just sitting in here, you know,

861
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: trying to build a football team with ran Cartho.

862
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: But they're doing some really cool stuff.

863
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: But you know, there's a decision methodology that has to

864
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: do with the foundation of it is experiential intuition. Uh,

865
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: that's traditional scouting. That is the foundation. When you walk

866
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: into the draft room and you have a collection of

867
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: coaches and scouts sitting in there, sometimes over two hundred

868
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: years of experience, you don't throw that out the window.

869
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: There's pattern recognition, there's instinct that you have of whatever

870
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 3: it is about that player. But if you can take

871
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: that as your foundation and also look at the exploratory

872
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: analytics or historical data.

873
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: What does it tell you?

874
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: Plus the predictive component, that's where some of the cool

875
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 3: tools are that we can use. If you add all

876
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 3: three of those together, like an equation, that could equal

877
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: better outcomes. Now, the human makes the decision in the end.

878
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 3: It's the computer is not going to make the decision,

879
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: but the human is going to make the decision, and

880
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: you become a more informed decision maker by the end,

881
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: is it one hundred percent?

882
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

883
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: If we can get the seventy percent, I would be

884
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: that's really really good, right. I Mean, it's just like

885
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 3: you said a minute ago. When it comes to the drafts,

886
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 3: like thrown sometimes. I think in some of these drafts

887
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: there's folks that can throw some darts and do better

888
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 3: than we do sometimes. And we're the experts in this thing.

889
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's tough. It's really tough, and we're trying.

890
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 3: We're in the prediction business and we're trying to predict

891
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: human performance, which is really really tough.

892
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: Chad.

893
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 4: You guys talking about football being the thing you and

894
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 4: Mike and the players, right they matter. What has been

895
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: the response or the conversation from current Titans and what's

896
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 4: the expectation from them? And of course the response to

897
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: coach Callahan being hired. Of course, I look at a

898
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: guy like Jeffrey Simmons who plays defense, like man, I

899
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: don't have a defensive head coach. How do you cater

900
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: to that? And what's been a responsive from those guys?

901
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 4: This is where Rahn Carthon is just masterful. He has

902
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 4: these relationships with these players in a way that most

903
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 4: of us in the building don't and he he has

904
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: spent time with a number of players, particularly you know,

905
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 4: when when the change was made and we had to

906
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: get moving and finding our next head coach, you know,

907
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 4: talking to the players and finding out what would they

908
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 4: like to see it in their next head coach, What

909
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: would they want, what does the locker room need? You know,

910
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 4: Ran spend some time with the players trying to get

911
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 4: their back, get get the information that he needs so

912
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 4: he can try to you know, it might not be

913
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: the exact coach that that they want, but it will

914
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: be the type of coach that they're looking for. And

915
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 4: I think Brian Callahan is is just gonna knock that

916
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 4: out of the park. These players are going to love

917
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: this man.

918
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: Uh they were.

919
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: I know he's an offensive mind a head coach, but

920
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: he also had a really good plan when it come

921
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: to building a defense, and he had a really good

922
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: vision for how he wants his defense to look. So

923
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: I know Jeff will be happy, wants to, you know,

924
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: we get the DC hired and get these coaches put

925
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: in place. But yeah, RAN's a big part of that.

926
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: Rand's the one that's really connected with those players in

927
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: a way that probably no one else has in the building,

928
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: and they their input meant a lot to us as

929
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: as we want about the coaching search.

930
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 5: Well, to me, you know, going back to the analytics,

931
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 5: that's that's fascinating and I can't I can't really wait

932
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 5: to see how that how that unfolds. How have you

933
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 5: seen in your search now for assistant coaches? I know

934
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 5: how the search was for the head coach because I

935
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 5: know this was a big part of the conversations, probably

936
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 5: some on the Zoom and then clearly face to face

937
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 5: with the three you went face to face with, they're

938
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 5: their acceptance of this whole analytics system because people don't

939
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 5: have any idea what it is.

940
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 6: They really don't. Your explanation was beautiful, It really was.

941
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 5: So the guys that you're going to bring in as

942
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 5: coaches on this on this team clearly have to have

943
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 5: some want to to absorb this too, right.

944
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

945
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: Brian Brian Callahan obviously, you know we had that conversation

946
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: with him around sports science and analytics and what you know,

947
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: his philosophy was around that, and Brian is just he

948
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: is the ultimate collaborator.

949
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: He is open.

950
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: They had a game manager or that that he worked

951
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: with every single day. It was on the coaching staff

952
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 3: and they did a lot of stuff there, and he said,

953
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: anything is going to help us, you know, win football games.

954
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: He is all four At the end of the day.

955
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: The thing that I think makes the best data analysts

956
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: over is they understand that, you know, the humans will

957
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 3: make the decision.

958
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: It's still football at the end of the day. And

959
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: and and.

960
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: These coaches got to coach, these players got to play.

961
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: But this is just information. We're just providing information. And

962
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: if there's some information, you can't overload them. There's some

963
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: reports that I've seen out there that there are one

964
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: hundred and ten pais what coach has time.

965
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: To read one hundred page report on that team?

966
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: What you have to do that. That's what I challenge

967
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: my team with every single day. Think complexly, speak simply.

968
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 3: I want you to think some quicks, but I want

969
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 3: you to speak simply. And you got to be able

970
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: to take that information, you boil it down to it's

971
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: nuts and bolts and and and really be able to

972
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: present it in a way that is really consumable and

973
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: and understandable. There's times I'm sitting there, I work in

974
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: this and and Sarah will be talking to me, and

975
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, Sarah, you gotta, you gotta dumb this one

976
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: down for me.

977
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: I don't like this.

978
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: That's that's high high level math, and I don't understand

979
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: all these equations like just and what she's great at

980
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: is she's done an excellent jox.

981
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: She did in la Is. You go to the coach and.

982
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 3: You say, here's three things, just three things that can

983
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: help you in this game. And that's what the coach wants.

984
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: Three to five things. That's all I need. I don't

985
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: need one hundred page report, and I'm going to sift

986
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: through all this data and now give me three to

987
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 3: five things that will help us win this game. What

988
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: are the three to five most important things that I

989
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 3: need to know about this football team? And a lot

990
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: of times it's things that they're confirming that they see

991
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: with their own eyes, which is that's when you have

992
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: a great marriage.

993
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: Chad Brinker, lots of important people in this entire equation.

994
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: We've talked about Brian Kandlahan the head coach, and Ran

995
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: Carthon the general manager. And I don't want to leave

996
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people out. You've talked about Sarah Bailey

997
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: and analytics. Explain to the ot people. What Anthony Robinson

998
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: means in this whole equation as you go forward pushing

999
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: towards the draft.

1000
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Anthony Robinson, first and foremost is a good friend.

1001
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: I got to know him over the last year and

1002
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: in a way that I'm just excited that he's part

1003
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: of our organization. Uh. He's one another great human being

1004
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 3: that's ram brings in a lot of good people and

1005
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: that's something that this organization can be proud of. First

1006
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: and foremost. But Anthony, Uh, he's a scout, That's.

1007
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: What he is.

1008
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 6: Uh.

1009
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: He grew up in the Atlanta Falcons organization. He was

1010
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: their director of college scouting. They built a Super Bowl

1011
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: team while he was there.

1012
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

1013
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 3: And uh, he's been around with success. He knows what

1014
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: it looks like and and we all kind of speak

1015
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: the same language. But as far as Anthony's role, uh,

1016
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: his role will continue to expand. But his his main

1017
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: main thing that he's focusing on is personnel, and that's

1018
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: that's college scouting as.

1019
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: Well as pro scouting.

1020
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: So he oversees that that entire department underneath Rayan and

1021
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: is is really kind of driving that that part of

1022
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: the business, that part of the organization forward, and and

1023
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: and set in the tone and and being a major

1024
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: major part of who will be drafting, who will each

1025
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 3: going after in free agency. So so Anthony is he's

1026
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: a scout scout now. He he loves getting out here

1027
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 3: on the road. He's down here at the Senior Bowl

1028
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 3: with me and he loves this part. And he loves

1029
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: getting out there and just seeing players, evaluating players and

1030
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 3: talking about players, arguing about this player or that player.

1031
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, we're just football guys. We just

1032
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: hang around, talk ball and love every moment of it.

1033
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: And Anthony is no different. So he has a major

1034
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: major role in our organization and he had this last

1035
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: year as well as moving forward this year. Especially moving

1036
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: forward his fingerprintser will be on a lot of this too.

1037
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: With Raan Titans fans, it's always game on with Duncan,

1038
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: So grab a coffee and kick off the action, whether

1039
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: that's drinking a cup of coffee on your way to

1040
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: the game or grabbing one to go before watching the

1041
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: game at home. Duncan is always there to help you

1042
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: get your game on. Just like the pros. We need

1043
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: to be at our best come game time, which is

1044
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: why Duncan is the most important part of your game

1045
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: day ritual because it's always the best call for football

1046
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: America runs on Duncan Titans President of football Operations, Chad Brigger,

1047
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: thank you so much for the time. This has been fun.

1048
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.

1049
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: I really really appreciate the time, and I'm I'm excited

1050
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 3: to be part of this organization. I'm very grateful that

1051
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 3: that miss Amy had given me this opportunity along with

1052
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: Burke and Ran and everybody involved that It's just you know,

1053
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: sometimes you kind of go home and I see my wife,

1054
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, can you believe you know a year ago

1055
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: where we were, we were in frigid Green Bay, Wisconsin.

1056
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: You know, love and life. I mean, it was a

1057
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: good that's a great organization. That's not one of those

1058
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: organizations you just walk out of willingly. Sure it takes

1059
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: something like this to do that, but I could have

1060
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 3: never imagined that this is where we would be one

1061
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 3: year later. So I'm extremely grateful and appreciative.

1062
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: Uh. You know, Miss Amy is.

1063
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: She is sweet, she's kind, she's she's fair and tough,

1064
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: and she loves her Tennessee Titans. There's no doubt about it.

1065
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 3: She loves this organization. She loves these fans and she

1066
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: wants to get get this thing right. And I'm just

1067
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: grateful he put me in this position to try to

1068
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: help get the organization moving in the right direction.

1069
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 2: And and and push us into the future.

1070
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: But I do know we have the right GM. You know,

1071
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: Ran Carthon is going to do some great things.

1072
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

1073
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: He and Brian Callahan just kind of getting this team together.

1074
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 3: There's a lot of excitement around it. You know, hope

1075
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 3: is a powerful thing. We you know, you know, we're

1076
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: hopeful that the fan base sees that and it's excited

1077
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: about what we're doing now this turn this thing around.

1078
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's not overnight. I mean, it's going

1079
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: to take some time and we're gonna work really hard,

1080
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: and you know, you just never know where this can go.

1081
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 3: But we understand that there needs to be a little

1082
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: patience involved in and building a roster. It's going to

1083
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: be you know, focused, methodical approach where we're trying to

1084
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: get first downs before we get touchdowns.

1085
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 4: Uh.

1086
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 3: But you know, with you maybe our quarterback develops into

1087
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 3: one of the great young stars of our league. You

1088
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 3: just never know what can happen. And at the end

1089
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: of the day, Uh. You know, Ran and I talked

1090
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 3: about this all the time. You know, when you come

1091
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: into organization, you identify with is to be fixed. You

1092
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: hire the best before anyone anybody else does, and you

1093
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: develop an obsession with winning immediately.

1094
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 2: That's what we get paid to do, is to win.

1095
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: So that's there.

1096
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: There's no as we approach this season, we're doing everything

1097
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 3: we can to assemble a roster to allow us to

1098
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 3: compete at the highest level because that's what we get

1099
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: paid to do, and we get paid to win. But

1100
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: at the same time, we understand where we are as

1101
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 3: an organization. And but it is an exciting time and

1102
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 3: I look forward two Uh, I mean how many months

1103
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 3: away are we now?

1104
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm ready to I'm ready to go right now.

1105
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: So seven and a half.

1106
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: No, I do appreciate it. I'm excited to be able

1107
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: to sit with each and every one of you here.

1108
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 3: I'm very appreciative of that and I joined enjoyed the

1109
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 3: conversation and hopefully we'll have many more of these down

1110
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: the road.

1111
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: For Ret Brian Coach, Dave McGinnis from oone Foster and

1112
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: Chad Bringer, I'm Mike Keith. Thank you for listening to

1113
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: the oh team