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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lollie. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and it is Friday, Matt. It is the

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Speaker 1: fall like day outside.

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Speaker 2: It's been a nice week, but it does start to

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Speaker 2: really feel like football's right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: The leaves are coming down on the ground.

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Speaker 2: It's fluttering around and yeah, they're wanting to may bugs

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Speaker 2: to squashed on the way in. I got a couplet

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Speaker 1: The ones that are left now are jumpers.

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Speaker 2: You think they're the smart ones.

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Speaker 1: These are the smart ones because I tried to get

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Speaker 1: a few of them coming in and like they were

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Speaker 1: just boom boom, jumping out of the way like crazy.

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Speaker 2: The lions have gotten all the week, Antelope. You know

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Speaker 2: my feet?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotten.

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Speaker 2: That's how it works. Yeah, pongs revive For.

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Speaker 1: You people who don't live in Pittsburgh and don't have

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Speaker 1: these spotted lantern flies, you don't know what you're missing.

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Speaker 2: It's fun squashing them on the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're fine. It's like a little game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah squashed, but they are squashed the bugeah.

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Speaker 1: They are quick.

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Speaker 2: You get them when they land.

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Speaker 1: I've also come to realize that you can't get their eyes.

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Speaker 1: Must be pointed behind them.

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Speaker 2: Coming.

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Speaker 1: If you try to come in from behind or on

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Speaker 1: the eyed, a lot of times you see if you're

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Speaker 1: coming straight on, they don't see you as well. That's

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Speaker 1: why I think when when they're flying too, you see

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Speaker 1: him bump into a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I do see him bump into a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they see you well up front.

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Speaker 2: I haven't scouted him to that to agree, but that's good.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is all part of the scouting process. You

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Speaker 1: have to you have to know your opponent.

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Speaker 2: Some of them are pretty good at getting out of the

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Speaker 2: way too, but I don't always go get them.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of knowing your opponent, well, the Steelers get the

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars this weekend on Sunday at act Sure Stadium.

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Speaker 1: About that for a transition, that was like, how are

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Speaker 1: we getting out of this?

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Speaker 2: Hopefully Trevor Lawrence doesn't see him coming or I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like squash Trevor Lawrence like a bug.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like he's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: But this Jacksonville team, it's an interesting one. You can

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Speaker 1: throw the ball on him, you can't run it on them. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they're pretty balanced on offense, but it's a different style.

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Speaker 1: Of offense than what you might think of when you

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Speaker 1: when you think about Trevor Laid, this big strapping young

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Speaker 1: lad standing in the pocket. The ball's coming out quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not old school nineteen eighty five Drew bledsoe no, no,

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Speaker 2: to sit back there patting the thing on a seven.

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Speaker 1: So it's not even like Andrew Lucks like this. This

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Speaker 1: was Andrew Luck as kind of that generational pure pocket

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Speaker 2: Of it quick, really really quick. Yeah, he's very successful

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Speaker 2: when they do go downfield in terms of that you know,

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Speaker 2: lung balls. But it's all quick and it's all a

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Speaker 2: lot of you know, a lot of atn a lot

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Speaker 2: of ingram, a lot of setting up for run after

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Speaker 2: the catch. And he's good at it. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: certainly processes things quick, he sees it, but it's more

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Speaker 2: of a death by a thousand paper cuts. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers have been very good at stopping the run

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Speaker 1: after catch. That's been one thing.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: They got caught a couple of times last week by

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Speaker 1: pooking the coop on some crossers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're still won the best in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Chris, That's Christian Kirk's game.

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Speaker 2: It is. I think it's a lot of Ingram too.

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Speaker 2: I mean Ingram's not a normal tight end catch and

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Speaker 2: It's definitely Kirk's game. Kirk has like a punt return background.

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Speaker 2: Ridley's like the traditional outside the numbers type and then

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a it's an it kind

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Speaker 1: of a contrast in styles here a little bit in

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Speaker 1: terms of that, like the things that the Jaguars do well,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers have done pretty good against the things that

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Speaker 1: things of that nature, like George Pickts could have a

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Speaker 2: I'm really leaning as it's talking to my buddies about

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Speaker 2: to like Jalen Warren catches, I mean, and Hayward catches.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think Pickens when we start talking DFS,

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Speaker 2: I'm real curious what he's costing because I'm very interested

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Speaker 2: in what you know, I could I could see another

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Speaker 2: one hundred game for him, and there's nothing against the aunt.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have a good game too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know'd the opportunities.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna look at this and like, well, how

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Speaker 1: the Steeler's gonna stop the Jaguars. On the other side

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Speaker 1: of that, you can how the Jaguars stopping the Steelers

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Speaker 1: And we haven't had to say that.

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Speaker 1: This isn't a bad defense, but they don't. They're not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and real quick for the other side the ball.

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Speaker 2: One just meant to say a minute ago, like Ridley

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Speaker 2: get it out over the Crossers, things like that. And

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Speaker 2: it's the outside guys that have really given the Steelers

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Speaker 2: big problems, and that's Ridley. But he's getting kind of

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Speaker 2: phased out. He's not what they do as much anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't though he's phased out or he's so he's

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Speaker 2: Like the first week they used them a lot and

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Speaker 2: one other time he had a big game, but he's

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Speaker 2: not the man. No, no, no.

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Speaker 1: He's been very touchdown dependent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's the outside, the number guy,

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Speaker 2: and that's usually the ones that stewards the most problem with.

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Speaker 2: Do they mix it in more Ridley this week? I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I don't know either. And you know, then

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Speaker 1: I mean, he gets, he gets. He's good everywhere, but

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Speaker 2: He is great at home.

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Speaker 1: That home crowd plays a factor. And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This is I've gone back and forth on this game

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Speaker 2: I wasn't ignoring you there because I found this thing

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Speaker 2: over in the last twenty four hours about what different

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Speaker 2: all the receivers in the league, the top guys on

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Speaker 2: every team, what they do verse too high, verse single high.

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Speaker 2: And this team plays a lot of single high and

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Speaker 2: But they play a ton of cover three, they play

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Speaker 2: a ton of single high. And I'm sitting there looking

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Speaker 2: at this chart and first of all, Tyreek Hills in

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Speaker 2: this unbelievable stratsphere where he's like first versus both, But

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Speaker 2: the only guys better than Pickens or single high are Tyreek,

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Speaker 2: Nico Collins, AJ Brown, CD Lamb. That's it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's like the fifth best against single high coverage and

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Speaker 2: that passes the smell test. I think that's who he's becoming,

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Speaker 2: and I could see him having a really big game.

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Speaker 1: That's why it was so important for Deontay Johnson to

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Speaker 1: come back this weekend. Oh by the way, folks, Deontay

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Speaker 1: Johnson is fine as I oh good, okay, as I

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's feeling it. Yeah, I mean at first,

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Speaker 2: I'm really stressing it. So good, so good. I'm glad

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Speaker 2: there's nothing more back today.

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Speaker 1: Not a huge deal good.

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Speaker 2: That would be a deal breaker for me. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean not like, boy, they can't there's no chance to win.

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Speaker 2: But that's a that's a tough I would definitely go

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Speaker 2: the other way without them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, we'll see. Uh, we don't have

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Speaker 1: more on there that is concerning. But I just I

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Speaker 1: look at this game and it really is a true

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Speaker 1: toss up game.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that you're I mean, the fact that

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Speaker 2: They are there, they're going to playoffs, they could have

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Speaker 1: And you know you're looking at this. Is that in

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad it's here in this particular matchup. Not

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Speaker 2: that Jackson was the worst place to play, but any

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Speaker 2: advantage in what the toss up game I think is big. Now,

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Speaker 2: be a shootout, but I do think Kenny has to

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Speaker 2: have to be patient and throw it underneath that cover three.

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Speaker 2: I think he got to attack that single high with

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Speaker 2: pickens for some maybe some big plays. Dump it off

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Speaker 2: the running backs. They give up a ton of production

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Speaker 2: over and over they're the best at causing turnovers in

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Speaker 2: the league. One pick I'm not gonna lose my mind over,

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Speaker 2: but if it's multiple or poor decisions or forcing things,

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Speaker 2: think he has to play well. We'll see if he

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Speaker 2: will or not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, he's trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you saw some things that he obviously looked at

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Speaker 1: pre buy the change post by yes, the staying in

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Speaker 1: the pockets, stepping up into the pocket as opposed to

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Speaker 1: drifting one way or the other.

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Speaker 2: I think his accuracy is much better than to be

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Speaker 2: in the year two. Yeah, and the open guys he's

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Speaker 2: hitting now well.

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Speaker 1: In some of my be part of what we just

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Speaker 1: what I just talked about, there the difference between if

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Speaker 1: you're dropping your eyes, footwork's not going to be the

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Speaker 1: same as it is if you're stepping into the pocket.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not a quarterback guru. I'm not Bill Walsh,

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Speaker 2: you know, but I do know that I play one

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Speaker 2: And Tom Brady would always stress to no end repeatable mechanics.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that's where those those premiere edge rushers.

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Speaker 2: From a pass rush standpoint, I'm sure they'll help on

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Speaker 1: I mean, really, if you look at it, I mean

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Speaker 1: The and they giving up the what I thought, two

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Speaker 1: their teams are throwing the football against these guys. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how many sacks?

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Speaker 1: They have thirty sacks right now?

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Speaker 1: They don't rush the passage.

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Speaker 2: No, they just revolve you know five, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think Pikett will have time to throw

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Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that adds up. I mean, they're not as

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Speaker 1: You can't be it can't be what it was against

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a nice nice to have that, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that can also silence the crowd quickly if

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Speaker 2: Frankly, I mean, if the Steelers got the ball first

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. I was that might be too much.

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Speaker 1: What kind of expectations we have here after the Steelers

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Speaker 1: keep the home out a little bit more? Hey just

438
00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,560
Speaker 1: tap the breaks here, guys a little bit.

439
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 2: Well, if those folks are smart enough to listen to

440
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,320
Speaker 2: us then maybe, or smart enough to figure that out

441
00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,640
Speaker 2: on their own. Maybe. I'm not sure the unwashed masses

442
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 2: care that much. All that, we've all bet in those situations,

443
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 2: you know, where the mob mentality. But I would hope

444
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,160
Speaker 2: you at least have more leashes. You know, that one

445
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 2: bad series. We're not, you know, losing our minds here, folks.

446
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, if the first half is ugly

447
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,959
Speaker 2: and they can't complete a pass, or run the football

448
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,439
Speaker 2: or get a first down, I certainly get it. I

449
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,440
Speaker 2: mean that's a pretty extreme case.

450
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,359
Speaker 1: But I think we saw in the fourth quarter of

451
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 1: that game against the Rams. Believe it. In off folks,

452
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 1: Matt Canada's offense can work.

453
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think he's tweaked some things too.

454
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 2: I mean he didn't just go home and sleep the

455
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 2: bye week away.

456
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Speaker 1: But they've also I think they've shown with it with

457
00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 1: the way that they've adjusted in the second half of

458
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,160
Speaker 1: these games. Yes, adjustments do get made. Yes, they are

459
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 1: making adjustments. They're they're learning, They're they're you know, they're

460
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,919
Speaker 1: being like the borg. As I've said before, you know

461
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: that the things change here. It may not always be

462
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 1: you know early in that game they hit. They came

463
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: into the game against the Rams with a plan of

464
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Speaker 1: what the hell they wanted to detack, what they wanted

465
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Speaker 1: to do.

466
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 2: Sure, felt like they wanted to get nausey the ball work.

467
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Rams through a couple of things at them,

468
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 1: a couple of blitzes at them that they hadn't prepared

469
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: for because they had shown them. Sure, and well that's

470
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: bad coaching. How could you not prefer if they haven't

471
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 1: shown them? They haven't shown them.

472
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And frankly, that's on a player to quote make

473
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,400
Speaker 2: a play. Yeah, Like, I know this is my assignment,

474
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 2: but maybe I have to diverge from it because my

475
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and get squashed.

476
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 1: But every time, every time an OP opposing team runs

477
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: something that you haven't seen on tape before doesn't mean

478
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 1: that it has.

479
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 2: To work, right, That happens every game, And that's why

480
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: you spend the week practicing, you know.

481
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, You come up with with team specific stuff

482
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 1: all the time.

483
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 2: All the time, without question. I mean, like we sit

484
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 2: here breaking down the game to no end and talking about, well,

485
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 2: they're a big cover three team. They like to single

486
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: high heavy zone. Well, maybe their wrinkle was we're going.

487
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: Man, We're going, man, We're gonna man it a well.

488
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 2: Okay, didn't see that coming. Yeah, you know, it's why

489
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 2: Super Bowls are so interesting because there are.

490
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Speaker 1: Two You've had two weeks to prepare, two.

491
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 2: Weeks to prepare, and boy, I better make an adjustment now.

492
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 2: And the places you know, flash photography is going off

493
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 2: like crazy and your heart tracing and yeah, I mean

494
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 2: you got to act accordingly.

495
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: Often in the case in those games, you have to

496
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Speaker 1: weather the storm early. And that's I know, that's a

497
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin thing, particularly on the road, like if you're

498
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: in a very hostile environment you get to you gotta

499
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: weather the storm early, Yeah, and come out of it

500
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 1: at least equal to even or get knocked out.

501
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: You can't.

502
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't give up. You know, you can't be

503
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: down fourteen to nothing against the forty nine ers.

504
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: Those old Tyson fights, Yeah went like forty seven seconds

505
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 2: and we all spent our paper view money on Like, now,

506
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 2: you can't be that guy. You gotta be hanging around.

507
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: And I do think this team has proven for more

508
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: than just this season to get better as the game

509
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: goes on. I think their depth comes into play. I

510
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: do think that practicing a little harder than most teams

511
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 2: in training camp, maybe tackling things like that payoff in

512
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter as the season goes off.

513
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: And I think some of the situations and stuff that

514
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin does in practice, pitting the offense against the

515
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: defense and things of that nature, making it very competitive

516
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: also helps you.

517
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: Sure seven shots things like that too.

518
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean the two minute drills that they run on

519
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 1: a pretty consistent basis, Like these are competitive situations. Typically

520
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: he puts something on the line.

521
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: I don't think every NFL team competes against itself full

522
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: glow as often as Steelers do either.

523
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and so you're used to being in

524
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: those pressure situations, Like it's different pressure, you know. Oh

525
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: as seven shots, Well if we don't win this, we

526
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: don't get lobster for dinner, you know whatever. He is pride,

527
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 1: but it's pride, yeah, you know, yeah, well every thing

528
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: is pride when you're playing sports. You know, do you

529
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: have the pride to stand up when you're you know,

530
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: it's the fourth quarter and you've played sixty two plays

531
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: and you're gassed, but pride keeps you going.

532
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think this team's showed that year after year,

533
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, there's been many times where they

534
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: could cash their season in, or you could cash in

535
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 2: a game. And doesn't mean they always end up winning

536
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl champion. I I'm implying that, but you

537
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: could have packed your bags and gone home or you

538
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: know that these teams right now, I'm trying to think

539
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 2: of a good example. Tampa Bay last night. You know,

540
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 2: should so there's time to compete in the South that's

541
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: a terrible division. Or should we trade Mike Evans? You

542
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

543
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make those decisions. Yep, but you can't allow

544
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: as Marcellus Wallace said, uh to Butch, you gotta. You

545
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: gotta know when to take the dive. And if the

546
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: money's no, if it's pride messing with you, yeah, you know.

547
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: That's pride, that's good stuff.

548
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, you gotta, you gotta.

549
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Speaker 2: I don't like it's an accident that they get better

550
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: Layton games or they're still hanging around after taking some

551
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: body below Laighton games.

552
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Speaker 1: Despite the fact that I continually see on social media

553
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and this staff never make any adjustments.

554
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: Half of you wouldn't know what an adjustment. I wouldn't

555
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 2: know it. All of them. We don't know some of

556
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: them are.

557
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: But obvious that they do do some adjustments. You don't

558
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: get better as the game goes on without making adjustments.

559
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: You don't just sit around and gop run it back.

560
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna run the same seven plays that we just ran.

561
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: They didn't work. This eighth time, it's gonna work.

562
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: And what's funny to me about adjustments is things you

563
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: wouldn't think about from the seats or watching watching at home.

564
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: But like when I was a pit.

565
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: Your offensive line splits might change subtly, or instead of

566
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: giving playing the cornerback playing them straight up, we're gonna

567
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: give them a little inside leverage here because I want

568
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: these small tweaks, like little things like that.

569
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Speaker 2: And when I was a pit on game day, I

570
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: didn't have a real job. I made sure all the

571
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: recruits were happy in their seats and all that, and

572
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: then I just kind of hovered around and watched the

573
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: game mostly, but I would always over to Tom Freeman,

574
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: our offensive line coach, as much as possible, and just

575
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: kind of listen in the way that exactly like you said, like, Okay,

576
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: we're running power, but you're taking your your guard, just

577
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: your you're pulling guard is just a smidge too wide

578
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 2: because we thought they would be lined up here, but

579
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: they've bump, they've had their splits a little bit. Or hey,

580
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: when we throw, widen your splits just the hair because

581
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: your angle will be a little bit better. And it's

582
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: not a giveaway like all those little things that you

583
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 2: never know watching the game.

584
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're right. I don't pay attention to

585
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: that stuff, right, right.

586
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: I mean I'm not a detailed coach to that matter, right,

587
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: But those guys make a lot of adjustments how they

588
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: run the exact same play week the week.

589
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So those are the things. And be patient, folks.

590
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: You know, if you're watching this game on Sunday, if

591
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: you're at the stadium, I expect the Steelers Again. I

592
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: thought they moved the ball in the first half against

593
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Speaker 1: the Rams. At times it's just it was a penalty here,

594
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: or you know, miss a miss blocking assignment. There something

595
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: something that that you know, sack that put them behind

596
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: the chains. It's gonna happen. I've seen this offense be successful.

597
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: I've seen it move and I and again would note

598
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: that not having Deontay Johnson out there for those four

599
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: games in a row affects your offense.

600
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: I think it's made a dramatic difference. So it would

601
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: bother me if they just keep sticking with a run

602
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: and run into a wall and run into a wall, yeah,

603
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: because I think we know this opponent. You're playing their

604
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 2: strength if you do that. But what if your defense

605
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: is stoning them too? And this really is like a

606
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: three to three game. It's twenty minutes into the game

607
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 2: and the Steelers are still sticking with the run and

608
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: trying to quote establish the run. I would kind of

609
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: understand it. Yeah, you know what I mean.

610
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: Like it really is you have to kind of feel

611
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: things out. Yeah, what kind of game is this going

612
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: to be? Now? If you know, if the if the

613
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: Jaguars get the ball and they go right down the

614
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: field and score a touchdown, you're like, okay, well that

615
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: did you know? Now? And then you go down and

616
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: you score, and then they get the ball back and

617
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: they goes Now, we're in a game here. It's a

618
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: different kind of games.

619
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: Isn't what we're used to playing. So that's why we

620
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: drafted you the first round. Kenny. Let's go, you know,

621
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it's time to step up, and maybe

622
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 2: that's how it goes. I don't know.

623
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: But if it's ten to seven in the first half,

624
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: and you know, we talked about a couple of weeks

625
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: ago and we were talking about the I think it

626
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: was Dallas and Chargers game. It's ten to seven at

627
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: the half, the Chargers get the ball, they go down

628
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: the field. At the opening possession of the second second half,

629
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: they go for it on fourth and one. And don't

630
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: get it, you just played a full half of football.

631
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: You know what kind of game this. It's a field

632
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: position game. Points were hard to come by. Why not

633
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: take the points in that situation?

634
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: Tie the game even bigger picture, get a better pulse

635
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: for where the league is right now and red zone

636
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: woes and all these things, and hey, three points goes along.

637
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: Three points is huge. Yeah, three points in.

638
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: This one too. I mean my hunch is just you

639
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: and I chatting for the last almost nine hours, and

640
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 2: you know, going on ten in this game, prep, I

641
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: bet we think there's gonna be a little more points

642
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 2: scored in this one than we did the other the

643
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: most recent When we pick our score, I do mind

644
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: to be a little higher scoring. So I do think

645
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: that you're going to have to throw the ball to

646
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: be in that game more the higher percentage than they

647
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: accustomed to. But I'm not saying they shouldn't run it.

648
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's a Brady versus Hampton situation.

649
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: You just don't run the ball at all.

650
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: Right, this is yeah, it's not that. If this comes

651
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: down to a field goal game, I feel pretty good

652
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: about that.

653
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did too. I think you would take that

654
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Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, just coach Thomas sitting here and give

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Speaker 2: them truth here. I mean, you say this game is

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Speaker 2: going to come down to a game winning field goal

657
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Speaker 2: one way or another. You're buying into that or you

658
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Speaker 2: went door number two. I bet he's saying.

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Speaker 1: I'll take all of that. Yeah, I trust my guy.

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Speaker 2: That's my type of game, all right.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking to see what their kicker has done

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: I think he's missed three. I don't even know his

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Speaker 2: name off the top of my head.

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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, Brandon McManus. He's thirteen to fifteen, he's eighteen

666
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Speaker 1: of eighteen, But traditionally he's not He's.

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Speaker 2: He's the middle of the road type of guy.

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Speaker 1: From what I am is uh, yeah, making eighty six

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Speaker 1: point seven percent of his kicks this year. His career

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Speaker 1: is eighty one point seven.

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Speaker 2: Do you know this off top of your head without

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Speaker 2: looking it up or they hide low special teams DVOA.

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Speaker 1: That I don't remember. I think they're in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the road.

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Speaker 2: We looked at it ever the week and if it

676
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Speaker 2: would have been really strong.

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Speaker 1: One way or another, I think it was just kind

678
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Speaker 1: of middle of the pack. I think I bring that

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00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: up because Boswell I didn't know this until I was

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Speaker 1: I was writing some stuff here for my five for

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Speaker 1: Friday today. His career field goal percentage of eighty two

682
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: point nine from beyond fifty yards the highest in NFL history.

683
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Speaker 2: It really wow, better than Tucker and trust me, I

684
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: used to tour people through what was then soon to

685
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: be Hindz Field and those early years, and it was

686
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Speaker 2: like the hardest stadium in the world to kick.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not that it's not that any longer since

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Speaker 1: since they you know, put the seats in the one

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Speaker 1: end and.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't closed it in building was built.

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Speaker 1: But eighty do you make an eighty three percent of

692
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Speaker 1: your kicks from beyond fifty points? Yeah? I think that's huge.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's he's number one. That's surprising to me. Yeah,

694
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Speaker 2: the number one.

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Speaker 1: That's number one. Yeah, like eighty three percent beyond fifty yards,

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Speaker 1: and he's gotten better as his career has gone on. Uh,

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00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: he was two for four in his first two years

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Speaker 1: from beyond fifty.

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Speaker 2: Since this like his seventh year in the league something

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen was his first year. So uh, since going

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Speaker 1: since starting two of four from beyond fifty yards, he's

703
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Speaker 1: twenty six of thirty. Wow, from beyond fifty yards.

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Speaker 2: So you said he ended the league in two thousand fifteen, right, Yeah,

705
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: I would bet you could make a really strong argument

706
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Speaker 2: that he's been the second best kicker in NFL since

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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Prett damn good, pretty damn good. Yeah, And you know,

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Speaker 1: the career percentage took a hit last year, could because

710
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: he missed he missed eight. Going into last year, he

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00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: had made eighty eight point three percent of his field goals.

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00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: Wow, that was with the.

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Speaker 1: Bad year when when he you know, he had the

714
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Speaker 1: other injury. Yeah, for a little while where he missed

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Speaker 1: I think six or seven kicks, and he was definitely

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Speaker 1: beyond those two years, he's like a ninety plus percent kicker.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, and he's very good from long range. Yeah,

718
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: and you don't think of him having the booming leg.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's gotten better as he's gotten older.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty crazy. So definitely if it comes down

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Speaker 2: to the field goal game, I think that favors the Steelers,

722
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: just in terms of your place kicker. Yeah, I mean

723
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: so interesting stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get to another break. He is

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett. Nice Today's question, Oh boy, Today's question for

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Speaker 1: Matt Minka Fitzpatrick or Troy Paulamalo, who had the most

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Speaker 1: interceptions in a game versus the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: I tink Troy, he's probably played him more. I get

739
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Speaker 2: it wrong every time.

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Speaker 1: Every time you're a hit. Percentage is pretty low, have it.

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Speaker 2: Folks, There's something to be learned there. Listen in do

742
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: the opposite to the Castanza move and you might be

743
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Speaker 2: doing all right, might be doing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But you can log into the Steelers mobile app

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Speaker 2: Nice but something give ways?

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Speaker 1: Really, hey, it really is so Matt In every game

749
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: the Steelers have won this year, in the four games,

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00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: either t J. Wat has had two sacks, a touchdown

751
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: or an interception.

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00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: Really that's mind boggling. I mean, I'm not shocked, but

753
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: that's four times it's done checked one of those.

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00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: Bos, one of those big play boxes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not just a sack or you know, this is

756
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: their winning percentage everything that he gets a sack or

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00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: something like that, something.

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00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: Two sacks, a touchdown or an interception.

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Speaker 2: Are you side? Note over Underwatt sacks at one and

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Speaker 2: a half. I think I'm under that.

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00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 1: I think I'm under because of how quickly they get

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00:33:59,560 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: rid of the.

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00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: Foot exactly and he's getting as much attention as ever.

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00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: That's a new for him. But I think I'm under but.

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00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised to see

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00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: him with a force fumble or something like. He'll he'll

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00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: find a way to impact this game.

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Speaker 2: And glad he brought that up because one thing I've

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00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: been thinking about is and it is more of a

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00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward thing, but it's definitely a watt thing. Whatever

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00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: the over under is, maybe this should be your one

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Speaker 2: of your Ben's predictions. I bet there's two three four

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Speaker 2: batted passes at the line of scrimmage. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean Lawrence, as tall as he is, gets his share

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00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: batted and he'll side arm some and you know, cutesy things,

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00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: but seems a really good at it. And if you're

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00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: not getting home in two seconds, I bet TJ bats

778
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: went up in the air, he'll.

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Speaker 1: Get he does. He is as good as anybody in

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00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: the league at that, like just timing it up and

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00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: anyone since his brother. He was there was one a

782
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago he almost picked it off. It

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00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: might have been against Lamar like it was rate Adam,

784
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: and he got up and it kind of stuck there

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00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: on his hip for a second, like, oh, he almost

786
00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: had that.

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Speaker 2: So hard to play to do that, but he has

788
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: done it before. But I bet they get their hands

789
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: on two or three balls at the line of scrimmage.

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00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: Remember two, he might be mak it taking it the

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00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: other way. After that he had.

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Speaker 1: The interception last week. Remember he has that he has

793
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: that torn ligaments in his in the fingers on one

794
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: of his hands.

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00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: Like, that's kind of hurt. Hurt a lot, Yeah, got

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00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: hurt a lot. And then also, I mean you use

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00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: both hands for pass rushing and grabbing.

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely right. I mean he just finds ways to

799
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: to to impact games. And again Lawrence will fumble the

800
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: football when he's running around with it.

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00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't put it past Highsmith too, mentioned.

802
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Chasing something down from behind and knocking.

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00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: The ball out the two of the very best in

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Speaker 2: the league.

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00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: One of my over unders might be over under two

806
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: plus fumbles in this game.

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00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: Not straight recoveries, but just the ball comes down, the

808
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: ball comes up from jag fumbles or or I'm saying

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00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 2: both both. Again, I could see that maybe even three.

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00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: I might even go three just to give Benzie a

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00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: chance to win that one.

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00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, I say two is not a huge number,

813
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: but I would set that maybe it is the over under.

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00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Jaguars will put the ball on the ground.

815
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Speaker 2: And maybe do two Jag fumbles.

816
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: You could do that too, Jag fumbles.

817
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 2: I like their chance of fumbling more than this year.

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00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're more loose with the football. I don't

819
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: know that Atn is a real.

820
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Speaker 2: Now he's not only is known as a great ball

821
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: security guy, but Lawrence does scramble and it'll get away

822
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: from his body and you know, I also think in

823
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: the pocket. And plus the Steelers are better jarring the

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00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: ball out than those teams.

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00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: At N hasn't fumbled this year, but he has fumbled

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Speaker 1: five times in his career.

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Speaker 2: So okay, do say he has before this? He was

828
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: never a super high.

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Speaker 1: He did he didn't play his rookie year, so that

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Speaker 1: was all all five of those fumbles were last year.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense, Okay, So yeah, I would think he's

832
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Speaker 2: more of a fumble guy than not.

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00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting, that's what It's amazing. What what you become

834
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: known like one season you have five fumbles. Well, he's

835
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: a fumble guy guy.

836
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 2: But I mean not like every running back doesn't deal

837
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: with this once you get the rep I mean Tiki Barber. Yeah,

838
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: there's a couple of stretches there, like do we have

839
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: the bench this dude who ends up almost being a

840
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer because people that's all they care about it.

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00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just trying to rip the ball out on Yeah,

842
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: and it's working. So you got that. Uh, the Steelers

843
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: are playing man to man coverage. Uh this according to

844
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 1: ESPN forty nine percent of the time.

845
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Speaker 2: I don't think any of the man zone stuff as gospel,

846
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: but at least it's a strong guy.

847
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: It's a guy. Yeah, yeah, because the stat package just

848
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: the NFL puts out it's not quite that high.

849
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: It's a lot of different places because they don't know.

850
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: And the Steelers play a lot of matchup zone.

851
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: Yes exactly, Like I'll never quote that in my stab.

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00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you just don't know. Is that a man?

853
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: Is it a zone? W it's a zone with man tendencies?

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00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: What the hell is that?

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00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? What did you call it?

856
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, nobody really knows. Nobody's sitting there listening to

857
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: Tara Austin saying, Okay, here's the coverage and oh that's Okay,

858
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: that's man so crazy.

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00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: Note, did you see the Ravens play last week when

860
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: Lamar held the ball for like ten seconds?

861
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: Like it really does?

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00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: He ended up throwing a touch on I think it

863
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: was on the play, but there was maybe a three

864
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: man rush see that one. Yeah, it was an unbelievably

865
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: long play. Well, if a play goes three plus seconds,

866
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: you're not passing the things off in zone anymore. You

867
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: plaster and you run the guy you're with. You know,

868
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: you're not hoping for the hook or the curl to

869
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: show up because that's long gone. I mean, it's backyard stuff,

870
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: so man's oone stuff. It's very useful to me. But

871
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: it's not sixty eight point man. Like, I don't think

872
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: you guys know that.

873
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: Well, Lawrence, according to this according to ESPN, has the

874
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: highest quarterback rating in the NFL against zone coverage. Okay,

875
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: but he ranks twenty fourth against man coverage.

876
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: So I think that's a good stat Yeah, Like, I mean,

877
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: I think that's a very good guy.

878
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: It's the second largest drop for a quarterback man versus

879
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: zone in the league this season.

880
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: My hunch is Kirk Ingram atn or all better zone guys. Yeah,

881
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: because everyone makes that a quarterback stat. Well, it's at

882
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: least as much a receiver status as your quarterback.

883
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: If your receiver your offense stat. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like

884
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: what plays are you Are you calling a bunch of

885
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: man beaters and you're running man beaters into his zone?

886
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: Well that would be a problem.

887
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: Yes, So I've told the story a million times. But

888
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 2: like one of the greatest things I learned that year

889
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: scouting with the Browns was watch every every, every every

890
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 2: snap of man de man coverage for corners coming out

891
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: and receivers coming out, because there's not many and if

892
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: you can't get off it, you're doomed. If you can't

893
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: hit the curved ball, I mean, you're gonna be in

894
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: the minors forever, Joebu, you know. So that's why I'm

895
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: going with this. So, like, if I got a bunch

896
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: of receivers, like I think the Patriots have this problem.

897
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: They don't have any man beaters on their team, right,

898
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 2: Juju's not a man beater. So does Mac Jones stink

899
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: first man? If nobody could get open for man?

900
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know that.

901
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I do think it's a team stat.

902
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: That's one of the beauties of Deontay Johnson, and no question,

903
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: he gets open against man, he gets open against zone. Yes,

904
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: I told you that. The Cover three stats yesterday last

905
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: season two point three yard three two yards per past

906
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: attempt or per our route run last year against cover

907
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: threes for Deontay Johnson is outstanding.

908
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: Normal. Yeah, And I cited the thing about pickens or

909
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: single high which is cover three. You know, like they

910
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: both should do well in this.

911
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: Matchup, so I think, you know, but if conversely, if

912
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: Lawrence struggles against zones and pickets numbers against that's the

913
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: other factor here. Pickets numbers versus man and versus zone,

914
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: they're higher against man than they are zone.

915
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: They're better, They're better, Okay, Yeah, which is rare for

916
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 2: a young guys.

917
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm just it's gonna it's gonna be

918
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: interesting if the Steelers feel like they can man up

919
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: against this particular team. I don't think they're gonna have

920
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: Joey Porter this week.

921
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh at first I heard that. I don't love the

922
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: sound of it. Yeah, but I mean, I guess I

923
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: do think they're more of a not attack outside the

924
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 2: numbers team. Maybe they would be if he's not out there.

925
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 2: Or looking at the success teams have had against Wallace

926
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: and Peterson outside the numbers. Interesting, but that also means

927
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: you get a hold the ball a little longer, right,

928
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? There's always a.

929
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Cat that's catch twenty two that you have against the Steelers. Well,

930
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: they give up plays down the field, but if you

931
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: throw a bunch of stuff down the field, you almost

932
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: better max protect to do it because your quarterbacks is

933
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: gonna get killed.

934
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: And then the other catch twenty two, just to rewind

935
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: two minutes while we were talking about, Okay, Lawrence is

936
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: in great versut man. You play a lot of man,

937
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: but then he tucks it runs right.

938
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem. That's the problem with that.

939
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: He's an answer to this, you know. So which which

940
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 2: way do you prefer them to play?

941
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe just mix it up and try to,

942
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, get him thinking one way. Get get them

943
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: running zone stuff into a man defense, or get them

944
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: running man beaters when you're playing zone.

945
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: And do weird stuff with menco Yeah.

946
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: Again, I think the skies is very important in this game.

947
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: Tom Young.

948
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: We forget these are two young quarterbacks. Jeffor Lawrence doesn't

949
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: have all that much more experience than Kenny Pickett in

950
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: his first year.

951
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 2: He had no help or I don't know if he

952
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: learned good habits this first year. Yeah, you know, and

953
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: they were terrible, terrible coaching stack exactly what I mean.

954
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: I don't know that he was made progress in that

955
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: first year hardly at all.

956
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: The other thing that that that you made note of, uh,

957
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense ranks top five and targets, receptions and

958
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: receiving yards allowed to running backs this season. That's one

959
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: going to be one of my guarantees this week, is

960
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: that Nausey and Jalam Warren over like I'm gonna say

961
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: over like five and a half six catches?

962
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would saying at least five was what was

963
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 2: going through my mind. And again I'm just talking bets

964
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: and stuff with my buddies yesterday, and that was one

965
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: of my favorites, was the overs across the board on

966
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: Steeler throws and completions and that stuff.

967
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: If they're going to give you those to the flats

968
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: and stuff to take them take the layups.

969
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: If Warren's over under catches or at like two or

970
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: two and a half, I'm going way over.

971
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nauseys will be low because he'll definitely, he'll be

972
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: like one and a half.

973
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is enough of how they make those lines.

974
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: But if those are if they combined for under five,

975
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: I like the overs on both those.

976
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So that's something to keep an eye on

977
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: here too. Those are free yards, free yards. I mean,

978
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: I hope there's really extensions of the running game.

979
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's controlling the football, stay in

980
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: the bounds.

981
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: Keep different way to get the ball out on the

982
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: edge to your running backs.

983
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: I mean, frankly, I might be something. I'll be alarmed

984
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: if they don't get to five to six plus between them,

985
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, maybe even McFarlane gets out there and

986
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: does a couple of things. He's been a good receiver too.

987
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: Because they are so stout up the middle, their defensive

988
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: tackles are run stoppers. I want to get the ball

989
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: out on the edge against these guys.

990
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: And again I don't know if they defend the flats great,

991
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.

992
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean lines. Both inside linebackers are kind of

993
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: running hit kind of guys. But they're both smaller guys.

994
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: I think Lloyd's like six ' four.

995
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Wait, why though, I don't think he's

996
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he's not two hundred and fifty pound linebackers.

997
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: No, I don't think they exist anymore. Yeah, I thought

998
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: they were both pretty big, to be honest with you,

999
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: but they're not very kind of ground.

1000
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: They're not like they're like two thirty five. They're not.

1001
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: They're not the true thumper thumpers.

1002
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: They definitely are not.

1003
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they both they both are, and they're both

1004
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: good players.

1005
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: They are there.

1006
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to get the ball away from

1007
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: those guys. I want to make them run through traffic, yeah.

1008
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: Or just dump into this, you know, flare out to

1009
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: the sides or all those type of things. So, you know,

1010
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: I think the backs are going to be very prominent

1011
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: in the passing game.

1012
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: Would you play both backs more in this game? So

1013
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: get split one out and get the get one of

1014
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: those linebackers out of the middle of the field.

1015
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, I mean, especially with friar Mouth out. You know,

1016
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: we saw a little bit of thirteen with them out.

1017
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you're kind of doing things a little different.

1018
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: I also probably take the over on Hayward receptions.

1019
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: It's probably like this is a heavy zone team as well,

1020
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: So if you're splitting your running back out wide? Are

1021
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: you going to get a cornerback on a running back often?

1022
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1023
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: Means something good, which means, you know, if if I've

1024
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: got three guys stacked to that side and all of

1025
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, now I got the Ante Johnson on a linebacker.

1026
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: I'm loving that.

1027
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: I'd like to see more of and and and that's

1028
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: a good way of getting there. You don't even need

1029
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: two backs to do it on the field.

1030
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: Right, I mean if just one back and then go empty?

1031
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: How often we see that in training camp? Or you know,

1032
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: to break the huddle and nause you be wide.

1033
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: To the beauty Hayward. Yeah, I could motion Hayward into

1034
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: the backfield but leave the running back out wide. And Okay,

1035
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: but where I'm.

1036
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: Going with this is I'd like to see more slot

1037
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: snaps for Johnson and Pickens.

1038
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. And what's interesting is in the fourth quarter against

1039
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: the Rams, they did put Picket or Pickings in the

1040
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: slot and got him down the down the middle of

1041
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: the field because he got matched up on a linebacker. Yeah, Matt,

1042
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: Canada doesn't make any adjustment right.

1043
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: And I think I mentioned this before, but this is

1044
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 2: straight from Greg Cosel. He's I've listened to three different

1045
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: podcasts with Greg on and I listened to them every week,

1046
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: and when Steelers come up, he immediately and all three

1047
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: of them goes. Steelers have made a really nice wrinkle

1048
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks of going four to the

1049
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: wide side and Pickens all alone.

1050
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with that guy on that side?

1051
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if they get one on wall and they

1052
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: go to him, it's either it's usually a slant or

1053
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: to go.

1054
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: And the beauty of that is if if the safety

1055
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: he cheats to that side, uh, then somebody else's somebody

1056
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: else has got single coverage on something underneath the wide.

1057
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: Side of the field.

1058
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1059
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he was really impressed with that wrinkle, that adjustment.

1060
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: He's like, I know everyone's i mean Greg's almost exact

1061
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: words where I know their offensive coordinator gets really scrutinized.

1062
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: But they've done some really good stuff the last couple

1063
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: of weeks. And this is a great example. Well, and

1064
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: I think, I mean this is even you don't know

1065
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: this one hundred percent, but I think a lot of

1066
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: it is an option route with Pickens where you and

1067
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: corner and if this guy plays with inside leverage, well

1068
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: I'm going down the sideline.

1069
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna go back shorlder or if he's back shoulder,

1070
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: if he's on the if he's over the top, we're

1071
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: gonna go back shoulder.

1072
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Or I might run right past him. Or

1073
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: if he's gonna play me with outside leverage, give me

1074
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: the quick slant and we're gonna try to shrug him

1075
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: off and go after the catch. You know, I don't

1076
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: think that there's a set route necessarily gets a sight

1077
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: adjustment thing.

1078
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Brady Welker stuff. You know we're gonna get

1079
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: to another break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lelly.

1080
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

1081
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: When we come back, time to pick our DFS line.

1082
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: We got to get back on the horse this week.

1083
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: We were close last week, very close. I did I

1084
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: didn't you know, our our our our call on on

1085
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: Heyward was it wrong? No. We got our money out

1086
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: of We get our money's worth out of them, but

1087
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: we just missed out on the on the touchdown that

1088
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: would have put us over the top on that one.

1089
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: Let's let's see what we can do here this week.

1090
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: We'll do that when we return right after this on

1091
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: the drive