WEBVTT - Steve Sarkisian on How His Game Plan Against Cam Jordan Backfired, Arch Manning’s Focus Beyond NIL, and Lessons from Nick Saban 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:09.120 Let's welcome Saints all time sacks leader and the coach 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.280 who's on a mission to bring Texas Longhorns a title. 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.400 Here's Cam Jordan and Steve Sarkisian. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:22.080 How y'all doing today? 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:26.560 Love it, love it love going live? Can't mess this up? No, 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:32.479 we can't, Coach Steve Sarkisian, Coach Sark, I've heard a 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.040 lot of different terms. What do you prefer to be called? 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.400 Coach Sart? Okay, all right, Coach Sart. Appreciate you for 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:38.199 tuning in too. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.400 Off the edge of the podcast live here in Austin, 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.440 via south by Southwest. I'm super excited with Sportico being 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.720 here enabling us to do something like this. It's rare 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.559 to be, like I said, just live with actual audiences. 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:54.480 Normally I'm in here talking on a screen. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:55.160 We do whatever. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.680 But I heard it was your birthday. It was you know, 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:59.360 I'm not going to put a number out there. Fifty person, 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.680 can you dude, I don't feel fifty one. You don't 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.760 look fifty one. Feel fifty one when I think fifty 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.120 one either way? You know, I'm thinking like that's like 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.120 the Bill Belichick's like they look fifty one, but Bill's 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:12.920 is probably what seventy seventy three. 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:14.640 Yeah, I don't have a good game. I don't know 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.720 if I'm going to be coaching at seventy three. Man, 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.119 he Pete Carroll, I don't know seventy three years old. 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.560 That's what I'm saying. The love of the game is 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:24.200 always in you, though, I mean, it's what got you 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:25.240 the ut. True. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.760 But you know, so along with happy birthday, you guys 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.679 want to join in on me, I'm gonna say happy 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:37.400 birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear coach. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.600 Sarkisian, Sure, happy birthday to you. Great. 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.800 Did you hear the longhorns? We're singing a little louder. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.400 We have a longhorns here today. Gosh, a lot of 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:46.320 longhorns here today. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:46.800 Yeah. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.000 Yeah, yeah. My manager's longhorse. She's a long horn forever. 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.640 Whatever that is. It's go beers my way. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.120 You know, as a coach, it's got to be awesome 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.160 to have a head coach position like this one. I mean, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.480 you've got you've worked for the pack when we face 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.480 each other, but now you know you're here. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.680 Tell me a little bit about that experience. It's been. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.519 It's been an amazing experience, you know, I am. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.360 I've been a head coach three times now at three 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:17.200 really pretty incredible places. University of Washington, USC, and then 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:19.520 to get this opportunity to be at Texas, which in 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.320 my opinion is the best job of the country that 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.959 you know, hands down, from not only the history and 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.320 tradition the University of Texas, the education, the school, but to. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:28.880 Be in Austin. 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.200 All right, we're two million people, no pro sports, so 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.960 all this stuff that's happening and it's still about UT 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:35.600 is still. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.160 About what we're doing on the forty acres. Absolutely. I 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.520 was like, Saturday is the day to share down the city. 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:44.000 It's about UT burnt orange, yes, white? Is there gray 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.040 in there? No? I just not at a crag and white. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:46.520 That's it. 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.919 And you just signed an extension through twenty thirty one, 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:51.640 so you're going to be here for the foreseeable future, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.160 hopefully to bring a championship to that's the plan. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:56.160 Love that. 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.160 I mean twenty thirty one. I will not be playing 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.880 by the n No, I'm a year fifteen, but uh no, shot. 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:06.880 Year fifteen, so real quick. So if those that don't. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.320 Know, I was offensive coordinator for the Atlanta Falcons in 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.359 twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen, and I had to try 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.200 to like game plan around this guy, right, game plan 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:20.240 around you. And I'll never forget a couple really critical plays. 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.240 We have a fourth and goal in the dome and 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.679 we ran a one back power and Austin Hooper was 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.799 trying to block you, and you were supposed to You're 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.799 supposed to be on our right. This whole thing was 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.880 set up to run it to our left, and you're 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.920 ass lined up on our left and destroyed Austin Hooper. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.960 The play gets stopped, we lose the game, and y'all 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.800 beat us. Man, I've got a pigeon fervor for destroying 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:42.280 tight ends. 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:43.360 It destroyed them. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.240 Yeah, I mean my dad was a tight end, so 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.400 you can imagine I grew up trying to destroy my dad. Oh, 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.119 I take it out on every tight end I see. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:51.440 Is that? Okay? 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:53.800 Going through your program, you're supposed to be interviewing me, 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.840 but I want to ask you, so here we go. Okay, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:59.800 So did you that? Is that your favorite rivalry Saints Falcons. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.160 That's the only rivalry that matters. It's awesome, right, absolutely right. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.040 Everybody says that about the NFL that there's not rivalries 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.119 like that. That is a real rivalry. Maneah, that thing 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.120 is nasty, but it's fun too. I enjoyed AFC, like 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:12.920 North or something. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:17.120 They hate everybody then C North like Packers hate the Vikings, 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.680 and Vikings hate the Packers, but they also hate Chicago 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.280 and Detroit. It's a lot of hate. I'm singlarly focused here. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.599 If it's red and black, I just want to kick you. 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.560 You know, it's not your fault, but I want to 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:29.760 trip you and not help you out. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.680 You know. It's the one or two games a year 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.559 that I'm like, screw you guys. 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.960 Do you remember the one year Coach Peyton is talking 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.839 talking trash to which which game is that? 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:42.200 No? 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.159 On you all sidelines to Freeman are running back and 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.120 they get into it on your sidelines. 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:48.919 I was like, dude, that's the head coach. I remember what. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.400 I'm like, Coach Payton is getting out. That's my look. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:52.640 Coach Payton is my guy. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.280 So the only time that really stuck out with him 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.320 was it was a playoff game against Philadelphia and we're 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.919 up but like three touchdowns and he looks at Malcolm Jenkins, 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.960 who was a safety for US was a safety on 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.640 the field of Duffy eagle side and like looked at him. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.359 Turns around, calls a bomb over Malcolm. It happens drops 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.680 a touchdown, and he's right there talking it the whole time. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.920 I'm like, and I'm sitting behind him. That's my coach. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.280 You gotta love the passion that it happens. I mean, 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.840 but even before you were at Atlanta, you were at 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.279 you dub when we played Yeah, you know, in my last, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.159 my last game of my senior year, we lost to 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.720 you guys, eliminated from boeligibility for the first time in 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.920 my college career. It's not like I had a bad game, though, 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.000 you know, I feel like if we roll Tate, can 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:35.960 somebody roll this tape? 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:38.200 There was there was a certain play. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.719 That I'm forever remember as the last game of my 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.920 college career. You know, It's like, look at this old 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.279 on the right side, number ninety seven, pre number ninety four, 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.480 you know, speed of power, which would be a staple 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.360 for the rest of my career. We go for the tuddy. 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.120 You know, it's not a bad way into college career 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:57.480 to lose but also score. It's very conflicting, very conflicting 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.040 are we gonna show the last play of the. 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:04.160 Game or not. I mean again, we're not for everybody 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:04.640 out there. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.799 Yeah, we get the ball down to the two yard 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.720 line and we're down by three, and we could kick 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:12.760 a field goal to tie the game and go to overtime, 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.560 and we decided to go goal last play of the game. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.159 We run the power play yep, and we score and 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.159 we I think we'm on of storm Joss Field. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:21.800 It probably happened. I don't. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:26.120 I don't recall that one because you know, like I was, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.400 like I said, it was very conflicting. I scored, I 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.880 was like, hurrah me, but also damn we lost. It 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.479 was like overly like, hey, you know what I'll seem 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:36.039 in the league. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:37.680 A ton of respect for you, man, I appreciate a 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.520 ton of respect. It's a real, real, real ball player. 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.360 We've we've had some good batts in college and in 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.200 the league. I mean, yes, yeah, let's take to seventeen eighteen. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.600 You know when it's my favorite over Yeah, it's her way. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.760 But you know, I just want to, uh want to say, 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.400 as we're sitting in Austin, what makes Austin so special? 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.599 And if somebody says Terry blacks. That's not what I'm 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:57.480 I'm not telling you. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.080 I get it. I get it. You know, I got 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.800 to be text tech barbecue as elite, and I can't. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.400 I can't single out any barbecue spot because I can 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.480 name off four or five and inevitably the fifth one 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.400 is going to say and they're gonna get on me. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.440 Not from us. But the barbecue is good. 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.680 You know what I love about this place is this 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.320 like it's it's forever growing, right, how fast it's growing, 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.720 how innovative it is. I think this is a really 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.800 young city. You know, there's a lot of young people. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.280 It's vibrant, it's healthy, there's a lot of cool things 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.640 about it. But at the same token, like we've got 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.720 this campus right that's divided. There's a campus, and there's 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.440 a downtown, and there's a capital the state of Texas 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:36.600 right in Austin. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.920 That I think it just kind of makes it unique. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.440 Right, Here's this really conservative state, here's this really liberal city, 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.560 probably the most liberal city in the state. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.840 Here's this campus, and we're all intertwined. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.640 That makes us all who we are, you know, and 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.560 it makes Austin Austin Austin, n It's so unique and 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.360 the fact that whether it's south By Southwest, whether it's 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.480 acl where there's Formula one races, whether it's the music scene, 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.120 whether it's the food scene, whether it's UT football on 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.240 every Saturday, there's so much to do. And by the way, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.320 the weather's awesome. So it's like we got the best 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:08.800 of a lot of world's going right now. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:10.360 It's probably why he said it's the best head coach 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.120 job in the world. I get it. It's pretty good. 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.320 I've literally been coming here. 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.200 I've had teammates go to UT from Kenny Vacaro, Alex Okaford, 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.720 Lil Jordan Humphreys, Malcolm Roach, the most current one Jalen Ford, 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:24.640 and they're always great guys. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.880 I just appreciate a school that puts out good people. Yeah, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.280 you know, like you don't have to worry about is 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.160 he pretentious? Is he a knucklehead? Like? Oh, he's actually 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.040 like Noe who I've already known. They're good people. Big 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.839 Sean Rodgers would be my first UT guy. 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.240 If you guys remember that name, Big Baby Rogers six 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.679 for five, three hundred. I'm gonna be polite and say 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:49.400 forty pounds yeah, yeah, but I mean UT makes quality products. 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.200 You know, we've got an Arizona Arizona kid, but John Robinson, 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:52.640 that's right. 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.040 Sadly he's in red and black. But like I won't 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.559 hold that, I will, I will. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:01.080 It's trash but burnt orange and why Bjeon was a 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.440 problem and love to hear it. I mean, just to 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.600 think about I guess the new face which our connection 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:08.560 would be would be Arch Manning and the Mannings from 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.920 new work that you know, it's I can't say new 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:13.600 faces being there for what like three years, two years 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.880 going into year three now yeah m hm, And you 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.480 know in my mind he's a Manning, so he's going 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:19.960 to do well. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.120 Just is what it is. But tell me what is 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.120 Arch Manning, you know, being the new QB And like, 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:26.600 what does what does that do for the face of 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.319 the program. Well, I think we've grown, right. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.520 You come in year one, just like you take over 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.360 any program, and you go through those growing pains of 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.800 changing the culture, trying to bring in the players that 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:41.080 fit you, your personality, your your team, your scheme, all the things. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.200 And ye're one was tough. We were five and seven 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:47.760 football team. And you go into year two and you're like, okay, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.040 we're fighting scratching Klwan. Bijeon's like the one guy we got. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.280 We had Roshan Johnson made like a two headed monster. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.240 And we go eight and five. After year when we 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.720 had no players drafted, I said, two guys to the combine. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.960 Year two, we get five guys drafted. Bijon goes in 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.800 the first round, top ten picks. Everything's great, and I 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.760 think a credit to the Manning family and really to 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.760 this day, I haven't talked to Peyton or Eli about 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:14.760 about Arch. This was about Cooper and Ellen and obviously 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:16.360 Grandpa Grandpa Goto. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:17.800 Of course, you know he's gonna get of course he 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.160 was at the end of she get involved with Arch. 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.480 At the end of the day, they handled it so 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.560 well and they can see the vision of where we 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.559 were headed. Granted, the next two years we go to 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.240 the college Football Playoff, we're in the semi finals. We've 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.920 set twenty five guys to the NFL Combine, and now 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.840 we've got a really good football team. We're very talented, 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:37.760 we're really young. But I think part of that is 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.200 some of those recruits three years ago. Wait, Arch is 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.559 going to Texas too. Let's get on board, and I 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.840 think this thing is continue to grow and not to 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.040 put too much on him because, as you know, man, 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:50.839 you win as a team in football. This is the 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.320 ultimate team sport. It's not about one guy. But you 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.839 always got to have a quarterback, and if you don't 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.079 have one, it's really hard. I don't care if it's 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.000 little league or in the league you're in in the NFL, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:00.720 and it's really hard. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.000 It would be the perfect example. 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.840 Yes, And so I think we've got a quarterback in 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.480 Arch and I think we've got a great leader who 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.520 does things the right way. But I think he's also 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.880 surrounded by a really talented football team. 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.679 So we'll see what happens. Man. You know, the expectations 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:15.160 are high in Austin. I can tell you that. I 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.160 mean the nil was high. When I saw numbers, I say, 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:21.640 good to god, he's making NFL money now. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.440 But I think, you know, with his background, his temperament, 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.240 the way that he comes from, the Mannings, you know, 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:30.680 it's sort of like he's unfazed by it all. 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:32.720 I mean, it looks to me like he's well poised. 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:34.600 He is. He's just a normal guy. 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.200 Like I always say, if you took the name off 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.160 the back of his jersey and just let him go 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.120 live life. He wouldn't have to change. He would be 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.280 who he is. He's a great teammate. He works harder 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:47.360 at anybody, like the best guys do. He's supportive, he 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.160 cares about the little people. He cares about the big 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:51.960 name people. It doesn't matter to him. It's who you 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:52.720 are as a person. 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:54.360 And in the end that I. 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.800 Think that that's kind of just his approach to life. 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.199 And so I don't think it's about the money necessarily 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.440 as it is. Hey, I just want to be a 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.640 really good player. If I can be the quarterback of 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.160 the team at Texas, that that win brings another national 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.000 championship back here to him, I think that's way more 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.359 important than any of the other nil deals or revenue. 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:13.640 Sharing, any of the other stuff that goes on. 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.959 I say, it's been a minute. It's been since Vince Young, 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.719 Vince young Man, Vince Young. I remember that he was 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.960 the second best player on the field that day. I'm sorry, 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.839 it's Reggie Reggie Bush. Hey, It's just I can't. I 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.560 would say he was the best, but it was Reggie Bush. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:27.600 I'm not going to lie to He was the most 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.480 electric college football player of all times. To me, that day. 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.800 But on that night then let me tell you. 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.760 Listen, but listen, you got to remember something I was 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.080 calling plays at USC at that time, right, Vince Young 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:41.839 was Superman that day, no doubt. 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.480 We could not get him on the ground. We couldn't. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.000 All the way he scored the last touchdown on fourth 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.560 and four, we couldn't get him on the ground. Oh, 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.200 I remember a childhood. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:51.880 He was like, everybody wants to be like Reggie Bush 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.520 in college, you know, like and then yeah, gripes of 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.120 a West Coaster clearly from Arizona, And I was like, 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.760 how do we lose a Texas? It wasn't a wee thing. 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:03.560 I'm from Arizona. I had nothing to do with that. 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:26.000 I went to cal Berkeley, not USC. Anyways, the idea 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.280 of bringing a championship to Austin, what would that mean? 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.160 It'd be amazing, you know, it's been a long time coming, 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.040 an incredible run that Mac Brown had here right in 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.599 the two thousands, how many games they won, and the 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.720 great players he had, and got back to the National 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.160 Championship game and Cole gets hurt. They losed Alabama and 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.840 then literally the program just started to just I don't 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.760 know even know how to describe it, just kind of 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:51.439 got stale. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:52.760 Let's leave it at stale. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:56.000 And it was like ten years of mediocrity and I 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:56.960 was part of those ten years. 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:58.400 My first year he was not very good. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.760 And so the fact now that we've we've kind of 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:04.199 swung the pendulum back that we're one of those teams 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:05.760 that you know that if you want to talk about 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.640 college football, one of the first teams that come out 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.000 of your mouth would be kind of the the the 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.120 icing on the cake. Right if we can finally get 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.400 over the hump and we've been inside the ten yard 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.720 done in the last two years to go play for 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:19.840 a national championship and have been able to get it done, 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.480 and to go watch our guys work out this morning 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.160 and see how hungry they are to be the team 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.400 that can do it. Yeah, you know, I know Longhorn 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.080 Nation would obviously go crazy for that, but but also 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.600 the journey that we've been on now going into year 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.120 five to build this thing back to get to that point. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.000 You know, you always you always. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.920 You know, as coach Saban notoriously says, right, focus on 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.440 the process, not the result. But at some point we 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.440 want a pretty good result, right, We all we all 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.840 want that result to We all want to be perfect. Yeah, 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.400 we all want to be a super Bowl champ or 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.440 a national champ. We all want those things. That's what 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.960 it works so hard for. So it'd be amazing if 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:56.640 we can get it done. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.040 I mean that that alone. I mean, you you sort 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:00.480 of know what it's like. You've been in the greatness, 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.480 you said Nick Saban earlier. I mean you've worked with 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:08.280 Pete Carroll so USC Alabama, you w you know, you 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.400 worked with Dan Quinn over in Atlanta, which you guys 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.480 would super Bowl the year before, year before, Yeah, which 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.720 I mean, so you've been around coaches that know how 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.640 to coach the greatness, and you've coached great players. Janda 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.480 Hurts who just won a Super Bowl, I mean, Matt 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.840 Ryan Quinn who just left your arts coming up? 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.440 I think, what, like, what would it take? 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.280 You know, what, what would you say is the most 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.880 important traits let's say the most three most important traits 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:39.600 necessary to achieve sustained greatness in an organization consistency. 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.520 I think that's really critical. You know, one, you gotta 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.040 let's go back. You got to set a solid foundation. 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:46.800 What do you believe in? 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.480 Right? And then once you set your beliefs, can you 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.840 consistently strive towards them and and focus on that right 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.120 and whatever those are being disciplined enough to remain consistent. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.320 So you got to have a foundation. Then you got 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.800 to remain consistent through the good and the bad. Like 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.520 college football has become a lot more like the NFL. Now, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.480 we just played sixteen games last season, and it would 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.120 have taken seventeen to win a national championship. And as 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.640 you know, in the NFL, there's one team ever that's 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.920 won every single game. And so how you bounce back 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.160 from the tough loss, not get too high from the 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.320 big win, and remaining consistent I think is critical. And 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.520 then are you at your best when your best is needed? 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.200 And I think that's what the great teams have, That's 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.480 what the great players have. They set a solid foundation 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.440 for who they are, They know who they are, they 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.200 remain consistent with who they are, and then they're at 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:36.720 their best when their best is needed. 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.120 How does that happen? At eighteen, nineteen and twenty years old? 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.720 The kid that I was in college could not be 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.360 the player that I am today. I mean, just the 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.800 idea that you're growing into a man and to be 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.920 at a program like this where you demand excell excellence, 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.280 where you demand consistency. 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.720 How does that happen? Is that coaching? Is that player? 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:58.480 Is that? Well? I think one is the culture that 0:16:58.520 --> 0:16:59.320 you have. Right. 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:01.800 So when you come in as a freshman and you're 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.520 looking up to the junior or the senior who ends 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.399 up being that high draft pick who ends up being 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.399 a Thorpe Award winner, a Dope Walker Award winner, or 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:11.600 you know, Buck Kiss Award winner, and you'll be like, 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.480 I want to be like that, Right, I'd love those 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:15.400 same accolades. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.840 What did he do to get that done? That that 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.960 cycle of success? Right? Of what are his habits? You know? 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.080 Is he go out five nights a week or does 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:25.640 he go out one night a week. I'm not I'm 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:26.280 not going to be. 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.200 A naive and stick my head in the sand think our. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.880 Players aren't going to go out, no doubt, but doing 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.760 it in moderation and understanding what's important. 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:34.639 Why are you here? 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:36.840 Is he one of the first guys in the in 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:38.760 the in the training room in the morning, or is 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.520