1 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: in Barrea, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Bally Bett, an official sports betting partner of your Cleveland 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Brown's on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. He are your hosts, 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: Well, it's a live on a Monday edition of the program. 7 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 2: I am merely Bo. He is the great z. How 8 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: you living, Buddy, Joe? Well, dude, it's crazy, it's already. 9 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: Uh, we're Monday. We're back at it. Training camp is 10 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 3: going to be by this time next week. We have 11 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: had multiple open training camp practices. 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: It's impossible. 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: It feels very impossible, but it's here. And you know, 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: I got to come in and do an event over 15 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: the weekend with Coach to Fancy and get this one 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: Sometime theme, which was really fun and news awesome. Honestly, 17 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: it was for one of our corporate partners, some of 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: their big clients. 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: It was awesome. He's fired up, he's ready. 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: He had a good month down at the shore and 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: then he's ready to ready to roll. And I saw 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: about a bunch of our players. It was It gave 23 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: me a little juice. I was like, okay, all right, 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: this is good. 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was trying to explain because people are asking 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: me this weekend at the lacrosse thing, like why are 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 2: we This seems early, and I'm like, it does? It does? 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: It is? I mean some of this is the ramp 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: up that we're now in now where you have to 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: ramp up to go and you build toward those camp practices. 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 2: It is early. It does seem quick. The summer seems 32 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: quick for our intents and purposes. Summer is over at 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: this point and away we go on this thing. And 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: you're seeing it around the league. I mean there's news 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: out of Cincinnati today with today's tour Turtle Soup Day 36 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. Yeah, legendary Turtle Soup day today in Cincinnati. 37 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it is go time around the league, 38 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: and it's it's football is here and away we. 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 4: Go and away we go. Yeah. 40 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: This is gonna be obviously a very interesting training camp 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: for the Cleveland Browns. And I know we're going to 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: get into a bunch of various things as we go 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: along here, but it's going to be you know, one 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: that is. 45 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: So quarterback focused. 46 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, then at least that's something that's gonna be 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: something interesting every day. There's gonna be something to talk 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: about every day, reading into who got what reps and 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: the successes or lack thereof that they had and how 50 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: that changes over time. And I think that I think 51 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: the Browns have an idea, a good idea of. 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: What they expect this to look like. 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I wouldn't expect a starting 54 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: quarterback to be announced for the Cleveland Browns for probably 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, maybe three weeks, even because they're 56 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: open to that. It is truly a competition that somebody 57 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: can come and seize this opportunity, you know. But I 58 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 3: think going into it, and I think we've talked about 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: it all along. You know, Kenny Pickett feels like the 60 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: guy that is the leader in the clubhouse. But he's 61 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: gonna have to maintain that lead. He's going to have 62 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: to earn it. But I think that's going to be 63 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: such a fascinating thing to watch this whole thing unfold 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: over the next month or so. 65 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: And look, we do a thing on here, and we 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: do it sometimes in the morning, little thing or not 67 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: a thing. And so I think if you play that game, 68 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: bless you. If you play that game. In camp, every 69 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: rep does matter. Oh yeah, and in camp where you 70 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: rep matters. How many reps you get in certain places matter, 71 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: what you rep matters. All of the pieces matter now 72 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: they didn't in training in the mandatory stuff too. The 73 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: one thing that's going to be kind of above all 74 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: of this or a to it is Flacco. You don't 75 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: need to see him do much. And I know Joe's 76 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: probably gonna want a bunch of reps and all of that, 77 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: but like, you don't need that much from him. You 78 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: know what he is, yeah, and you know what he's 79 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: capable of. So the three young guys and Pickett isn't 80 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: that different than Shuder or Gabriel. They are going to 81 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: when they rep, what they rep and how much they rep. 82 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: All of that stuff matters bigly in terms of getting 83 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: to what this season has to be about, and that 84 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: is Yes, development in a bunch of different places, try 85 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: to contend do all of those things. But we're in 86 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: a bit of a transition phrase as a franchise, and 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: you need to see if one of those three guys 88 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: can be a long term answer. That's really what this 89 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: year is. Yes, that's what it's about. 90 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent and couldn't agree more with what 91 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: you just said. That's what it's That's what it's all about. 92 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: This team trying to put themselves in a position where 93 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: they can answer the question that they have not been 94 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: able to answer. Who is the franchise quarterback of the 95 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. We've taken they've taken shots at it, big shot, 96 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: and so far the quest continues. And so that is 97 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: going to be kind of what you know is the 98 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: driving force behind this season. And I think not how 99 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: success or failure is measured. That's obviously that's measured with 100 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: wins and losses. That's the bottom line of the National 101 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: Football League. Now there are relative things that you look 102 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: at right that, Okay, where are we You know, the 103 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: expectations here are probably different than those in Baltimore or 104 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: Buffalo or Kansas City, and they should be not to 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: say that you can't go and make a run. Teams 106 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: go from worse to first in this league every single year. 107 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: But this year, it's not a success or a failure 108 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 3: if they don't identify that guy, but if they don't 109 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: feel like they have a definitive answer one way or 110 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: the other, that complicates things going forward. So I think 111 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: you want to win as many games as possible, but 112 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: you also want to have a real answer to that question. 113 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: And if you can have a real answer to that 114 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: question in the affirmative, I think it sets you up 115 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: for so many possibilities that could be very, very good 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: for the Cleveland Browns If you answer that in the 117 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 3: negative that Nope, there isn't somebody here that can do 118 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: that for us. You positioned yourself with the Mason Graham 119 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: trade to be able to go do that. 120 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: Yep. So that's kind of what it's about. 121 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 3: And by the way, I kind of think if you 122 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: don't have an affirmative answer on that, you're probably going 123 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: to be picking pretty close to the top anyway. 124 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if yeah, if you play a bunch of 125 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: quarterbacks and and honestly, as tough as our schedule is, 126 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: one of the young guys could play really well and 127 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: we still don't win, which would be which wouldn't be 128 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: the worst thing for you and I and not the 129 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: words of the franchise, but from our perspective, like you 130 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: need an encre you, you and I did this. We 131 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: went through the roster and we were grading the roster 132 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: and where it stood around the league, and we're going 133 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: through every room and is this we ranked the room 134 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: strongest to weakest. Yep. The reality is that we need 135 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: a massive influx of new young talent, controllable talent across 136 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: the roster, and it the building of that just started 137 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: this last year in the draft and it's going to 138 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: continue next year in the draft. I mean, if you 139 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: could all the things we looked at, almost every position 140 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 2: room needs an influx of young talent. 141 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: If you could get into the position where you have 142 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: a good answer that you know, Pickett, Gabriel or Shador 143 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: can be that guy that you're like, you know what, 144 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: We're comfortable going with that guy, and have your first 145 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: of your two first round picks, whether it's because of 146 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: you or because of Jacksonville, be a quarterback pick that 147 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: you could turn into two or three more ones and 148 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: then have maybe you know, three ones this year or 149 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: two ones this year, kick it forward three ones, you 150 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: know the year the potentially arch comes out, gives you 151 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: another year, but also and then two ones the year 152 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: after that, and you can have seven first round picks 153 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: over the next three years. 154 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: You can actually you should. Yes, it's not. 155 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: One hundred percent that you're going to hit on all 156 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: of them. But you should really be able to get 157 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: this done the way that you want it to be done. 158 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is quarterback. You're gonna 159 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: need a receiver, you could need a tight end. You're 160 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: gonna need tackles, You're going to need potentially guards. You're 161 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: gonna need a defensive end. You're going to need cornerbacks, 162 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: and you could even need a safety. I mean, you 163 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: have the whole roster. You have a lot of needs. 164 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: You have a lot of needs going forward. As things 165 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: shakeout going forward, you're gonna have a lot of needs. 166 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: Yes, first full squad practice is Wednesday, four to twenty five. 167 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: First open practice to the public is on Friday at 168 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: two o'clock. That is training camp. And here we go. 169 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: Would you make a Scottie? 170 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: I mean it was never a doubt to me once 171 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: he had the lead. Yep, he is the best player 172 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: in the world. I mean, he just missed a I 173 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 3: don't know, probably twelve footer on sixteen, which called calamity 174 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: to run off four straight birdies on a two hundred 175 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: and thirty yard par three. The crazy thing is he 176 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: didn't play the par fives well relative to the field. 177 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: He did not play the par fives well at all. 178 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: In fact, he set the record for the most under 179 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: part on par three's in an open championship. Ever, he 180 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: could have won this by ten, he didn't, birty two, 181 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: then birty seven. He just really didn't attack the par 182 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: fives the last couple of days like you would have 183 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: thought he could have, and if he did, maybe he 184 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: wins by more. He put himself though by winning by 185 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 3: four or more. The only people that have ever won 186 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: three or more majors by four or more are Jack Nicholas, 187 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: Tiger Woods, and Scotti Shuffler. And what he's doing is 188 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: it's not and people get really it really fires people 189 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: up when somebody says, oh, it's like Tiger esque, it 190 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 3: is kind of like Tiger esk. It's not the same 191 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: level of dominance. I'd also say it's a different game now. 192 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: There are so many players who can mash the ball, 193 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: There are so many players who are elite players. I 194 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: do think the live part of it, those guys clearly 195 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: are not the same competitors that they were when they 196 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: were on the tour. 197 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: Like just it seems like only Deshambeau can has been 198 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah last year one to one, but even. I mean, 199 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: but he's in the mix. I mean he was sixteen under, 200 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 2: he was seventy eight sixty three, I know, but he's 201 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: sixteen under Friday, Saturday, Sunday right right, seventy eight sixty 202 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: he had. 203 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: A six seventy sixty sixty five sixty thirteen shots different 204 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: in one day. 205 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like he's been the only one that's kind 206 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: of the. 207 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: Periphery of it really hasn't been there. Dustin Johnson, they've 208 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: been there. It's it's and that hasn't really been there. 209 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: I think we are far enough along that I do 210 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 2: think you have enough data to say that like they 211 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 2: are not prepared for major golf, or that tour is 212 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: not getting the best out of them for whatever the 213 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: whatever the reason may be, probably financial most of it. 214 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: I don't need to grind. You don't need to grind anymore. Yeah, 215 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: you're good. But the who cares part of that I 216 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: think is hurting a great to them. And these I 217 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: will say so, I really obviously I'm having for guy. 218 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: I wish he were more fun. I wish there was 219 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: just something about it. 220 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: But even like in he's happy, you know, and he 221 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: gave that interesting and quote before about you know, I 222 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: don't know why I care that much, but I do, 223 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: and separates it and I thought, did you see Jordan 224 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: Speeth afterwards said the sky Shuffler's not He's not trying 225 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: to grow the game. 226 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: He's not trying to transcend the game like Tiger. 227 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't do the stuff that all of us 228 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: do with all the corporate you know, kind of like 229 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 3: his boondoggles or glad He's like is he He plays 230 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 3: golf and just have to be really good at it. 231 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: His friends are the same friends he's had his whole life. 232 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: He likes to be with his wife and his kid, 233 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: which is those are all great. 234 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: Nobody. 235 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: You have to be very absolutely, he just happens to 236 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: be so so good. I mean, the best we got 237 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: was like a two inch fist pump on I think 238 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 3: six when he saved par I'd love to see a 239 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: little bits. 240 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: He's just methodical. 241 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: Now, I will say what I enjoyed, perhaps more than 242 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: anything on Sunday, especially on the back nine. I'm a 243 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: I think it's hot tongue. I'm a hot tong lee fan. 244 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: I love that guy. I loved everything about him. He 245 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: was having the time of his life. He was the 246 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: only person I saw who has ever gotten Scotty to 247 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: engage with them like that. They were laughing and smiling, 248 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: having a great time together. I was so happy for him. 249 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: He made that Birdie to get finished tied for fourth. 250 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: I was like pumped for him. What cool story. He 251 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: just seemed like a cool guy and I was really 252 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 3: that was I was rooting for him more than I 253 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: was rooting for Scotty, because Scotty was inevitable. It was 254 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: he was gonna win. He needs the US open now, 255 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 3: get it. I mean, I think so Pebble would be 256 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: a great place to do it. 257 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: He's got that coming up in the next couple. Yeah, 258 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: he's He's incredible. He's incredible. 259 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: He has a swing that is unlike anybody else's on 260 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 3: the planet. 261 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 5: Uh. 262 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: And he's just so in command. He's just so commented. 263 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: He had a double which was shocking, and then came 264 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 3: back and went Birdie and then Birdie I think two 265 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: holes later, and then just coasted in, which is all 266 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: he had to do. 267 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: It's a there's a little bit of joker to it. 268 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: For the Nuggets, there's a little bit of that, like 269 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: so good and so good, and it's just so kind 270 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: of like just they're consistently good, but there's not a 271 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: whole lot more to it than that. And Joker's not 272 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: interested in any of the stuff either, like he wants 273 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: to go back and race his horses and all that stuff, 274 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: Like he's not. He just this is a skill that 275 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: he's really good at. Yep. And that's Scotty and the 276 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: thing for some of them. And I don't know, like, 277 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: do you think Tiger's career is any different in this 278 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: era where the purses are this big or do you 279 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: think that he was So we romanticize all of those 280 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: guys because of their drive and the singularly focused and 281 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: all of those things that they were, but financially they 282 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: also weren't totally set the way that these guys are 283 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: not in initially though by the time he got to 284 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: the mid two thousands, of sure, but like early nineties, 285 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: like when he's first getting going, there's a monetary part 286 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: of it too, sure, And for a lot of these 287 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: guys there isn't there set for beyond set in large 288 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: part because of Tiger. Yeah, so I don't know. I 289 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: think all of those things are in play. A couple 290 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: of things on him. I saw a poll this morning 291 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: that said, do you think that he will win ten 292 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: so majors? Yeah, so it's it's Jack, Tiger and Hagen 293 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: are the ten the guys who won ten Do you 294 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: think he'll win ten majors? And the pole was seventy 295 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: five percent yes that he would. Now I immediately said 296 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: the poll is wrong because you probably would have said 297 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: something similar after Rory won what his fourth in twenty fourteen. 298 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: They've won, so he's won four in the exact same 299 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: I think it was twenty five majors for Rory and 300 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: same for Shuffler. 301 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so that I didn't know that, but that only 302 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: buttresses my case that coming out of Rory winning it congressional, 303 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: you would have said, oh, he's he's gonna win twelve 304 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: in I mean, he's in his twenties. He's gonna win 305 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: twelve in his sleep. And then he won a decade. 306 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah right, you probably you might have said the same 307 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: thing with Speeth after he'd won the two Masters, and 308 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: he won the US Open and then he won an 309 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: Open champion. All he's bussing is the PGA WI. He 310 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: feels like he's now he's cooked. But you wouldn't have 311 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: thought that then he felt like a machine. It felt like, oh, 312 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: if he's in it, he's gonna win it. Yeah, you 313 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: may have said not that they I'm not talking about 314 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: the Tiger thing. I'm saying the ten major thing. You 315 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: might have thought it about Koepka in the late teens, 316 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: like he was a machine at the US Open, like 317 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: to win the US Open that way, to just pound 318 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: it and just dominate US Opens. You would have thought, well, gosh, 319 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: maybe he get to ten and they're not. They're not 320 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: so like he's got the four like six more and 321 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: he said it post round. I thought it was so good. 322 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: He's like, stop with the Tiger stuff, Like, okay, I'm 323 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: a quarter of the way there, Like he won fifteen, 324 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: Like he doesn't, right, And it doesn't strike me as 325 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: someone who's gonna do this at forty five or forty two. 326 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: I could honestly see him win a US Open, have 327 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: the career Grand Slam and be like, I've made enough money, 328 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: I've been really good at this, like I just want 329 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: to go like chill. 330 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I could see him not even playing it out, 331 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: like yeah, here's the other thing about that sport. And 332 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: we talked about a lot the the golf season for 333 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: the casual sports fan is now over. It's over. 334 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: That's it. 335 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: It's just crazy. I agree with you on you and 336 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: I've talked about it. It's agree. I think it's a critical. 337 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: Mistake and one more in August. 338 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, And I know the Ryder Cups at beth Page, 339 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: but it's during football season. It gets it's got no chance, 340 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: no chance. So you had. Now the golf people will 341 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: love it, but like the non golf people, they once 342 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: the Open Championship is done, it's done. You really could 343 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: have done better than Rory winning a Masters. That will 344 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: the back nine alone will be a thirty for thirty. Oh, 345 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: it's just crazy. Uh two Sky and JJ Spahn, who's that? 346 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: You're going to forget him, but you're not going to 347 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: forget how ridiculously brutal Oakmont was and everything that came 348 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: with film. I'm going to remember that. Yeah, you're going 349 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: to remember that. Golf could not have had a better 350 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: year than it had based on the characteristics and the 351 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: people involved. I suppose if shamp Well Desham was in 352 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: the final pairing with Rory at the Masters, yeah, so 353 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: like he was in the mix. Even so, it kind 354 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: of went as good as it can go for them. 355 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: Totally, yeah, totally. Yeah, it's I think you're right. Scotty 356 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 3: winning the PGA though I don't even think I can't 357 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 3: even remember anything about them or a single swing and 358 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: that was paid a quail yep. But your masters, you 359 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 3: remember oakmight you remember and obviously Spawn. I think he'll 360 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: It will help him to be remembered by the putt 361 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 3: he made on eighteen. 362 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that helps him. 363 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: Uh. 364 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: And right, you had Scotty twice he had I mean yeah, 365 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: you had everything that you wanted. And Rory while he 366 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: wasn't he didn't win, he was certainly in the mix 367 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: in Ireland. The crowd was great for him this week. 368 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: It's just it thinks that I think that there's nothing 369 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: looking for the PGA. Again, we've said you and I 370 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: have said this ad nauseum. It should be a master's 371 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 3: kicks it off. Then you go ahead. There isn't a 372 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 3: major in May, but you can get big. There are 373 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: big tournaments in May. 374 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: Jackson's in May used to be in May, and the 375 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: players used to be in May. 376 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 377 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 2: Put two big, two big ones in there. Yeah. Then 378 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: you got the US Open. 379 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 3: Then you've got the Open, and I love that when 380 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: you win, you're the champion golf of the world. 381 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: I just loved it such a great I love that too. 382 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: Great. 383 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: And then you'd have the PGA. 384 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: And what the PGA should be is at crazy courses 385 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: that you never see pros play on that you've never 386 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: seen a pro play on. For like, I don't even 387 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: care if it was every year, if the PGA just 388 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: was out in Mesquite, Nevada. 389 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but courses like that. Yeah. I think the other 390 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: thing the PGA could do that would be really cool. 391 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: It feels like the PGA and the US Open because 392 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: US Open gave up a lot of those, Like Congressional 393 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: is going to be a PGA that was for a 394 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: US Open. I think Baltis Roll is going to be 395 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: a PSA PGA, So they kind of have some pollination. 396 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: Don't stay or clear of each other. If the US 397 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: Open be fine, US Open play Pebble, play, Tory play 398 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: and then play all of those ultra exclusive ones, fine, 399 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: the RODA whatever. But the PGA, you're right, there's a 400 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: spot for it. And one thing that I saw was 401 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: pretty cool. One of my one of Beamsy's buddies dads, 402 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: went to Ireland on a golf trip and he's like, 403 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: I've played Royal Port Rush and I know you've played 404 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: a lot of the courses in the Rota. Yeah, in 405 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: the Scotland courses, and it's like that's pretty cool. Yeah, 406 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: the PGA would be pretty cool to play all the 407 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: courses you can play, play Bethpage Black, play Whistling Straits, 408 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: Torrian Pebble or us. But like even if you gave 409 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 2: to one of the band and courses, absolutely there. Yeah, 410 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: mesquite all of those courses that anybody can play. Play 411 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: the one in Vegas that's overly priced, play all those 412 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: set up a pgat Castle Pines. 413 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: They used to play an event there. But yeah, like 414 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: have them be hitting the ball at you know, in 415 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: that kind of elevation, Yes, would be cool. Yeah, there's 416 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 3: so many. 417 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: There's an opportunity there totally. 418 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the ones that like people go courses that people 419 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: go on vacation to play. 420 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, like have a PGA at what's a Mystic Rock 421 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: in Mystic Rocks in Vegas. Well, Mystic Rocks. 422 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: That's right, that's what's the one I'm thinking about in Vegas. 423 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: That's what I mentioned something. It's the most expensive course 424 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, that's the one that Tiger, and those 425 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 2: guys played at Shadow Creek. Shadow Creek, Yeah, yeah, play 426 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: at quarter lane where I was perfect. I don't know 427 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: they could back it up enough. I don't if they 428 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 2: have enough room. Uh no, it's pretty short. You're right, 429 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: probably is. But even if they even if they had 430 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: to hit different shots, or even if they shot thirty 431 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: under par, who cares? 432 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 6: Like? 433 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: Do it different? 434 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: Cool places? 435 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: Cool places? 436 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 3: There are plenty of them there. There's quarterbous in Hawaii 437 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: that are public courses. Big yeah, well public isn't but 438 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: still but like a resort, yes that somebody, yes, somehow 439 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 3: or other people can find their way onto. 440 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, that's that's to me. I think we 441 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: agree that that's what that is. Are you ready for absurdity? 442 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: Depends. 443 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you five minutes of youth sports. You 444 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: have five minutes of This weekend tournament is in Warren County, Ohio, 445 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 2: about forty five minutes north of Cincinnati. Have you been there? Oh? No, 446 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: Warren County, I know Warren on the way to No. No, no, no, 447 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: you pass it on the turnpike of course. Yeah no, no, no, 448 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: no it. 449 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 7: Being great You could have stayed at home. 450 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 8: Yea. 451 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: Now, This is a victory because it wasn't Baltimore or 452 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: Baltimore adjacent. So there's three hours and twenty minutes home 453 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: instead of five point fifty six. Fine, so you get 454 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: your schedules on Thursday. So this is how it's been 455 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: all summer. Beamsy and Boots. He play starting at eight 456 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: am and they're done usually by one o'clock, and then 457 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: NBC starts at like two o'clock and he's done at 458 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: like seven, so it's all day. But it's in the brochure, 459 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: no problem, I got it. You typically stay at hotels 460 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: that have the word suites in the name. Yep, very 461 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: loosely use of the word suite. 462 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: Okay. 463 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: If by sweet you mean it has a sink in it, yep, 464 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: then I guess it's a I guess it's a sweet. 465 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 2: There's ever a restaurant in them, it's right, you know. 466 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: So we were at a Marriott across the street from 467 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 2: across the freeway from King's Island, so that's a win. 468 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: So you got a restaurant in it and a way 469 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: you go, So that's fine. So that's nice. Did the 470 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 2: two rooms nobody's nobody? I get too many kids got 471 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: to do it. That way. So get the schedule. It's 472 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: five o'clock. You've been there all day. You got to 473 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: be there. You're up at six the year at the place. 474 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: By seven thirty, you're there all day. We're in the 475 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: middle of the late games, NBC's games on Saturday, and 476 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: there's lightning. Shut it down. We're done. Say okay, we 477 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: can go home four thirty. That's fine, Maybe a shower, 478 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: kind of chill out. They didn't call them right away, 479 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: so they call them later. Eventually go back. But here's 480 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: what I know is a I in the US sports world, 481 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: they have to play those games, those pool games. So 482 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: now what initially would have been if the boys win 483 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: championships were on the road by one thirty becomes now 484 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: we got to play pool games at eight o'clock. We 485 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: got to play bracket play that the last game was 486 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: at two forty five. Okay, last games at two forty five. Now, 487 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: so already I'm in a bad mood. So we're heading 488 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: back to the hotel after all day. Everybody's loaded in, 489 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: everybody stinks all this stuff because's been in the sweat 490 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: hot all day. And they go get some snacks. I 491 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: think they did wing stop and Chipotle is what they want. 492 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, I just need something. I want something that 493 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: feels a little more homemade. So no names please, but 494 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: an Italian chain that I think you would say is 495 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: a relatively higher scale Italian chain, like a sit down, 496 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: not a walk in. Make it for you, like go 497 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 2: have a seat type situation. So I go on their 498 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: app and I download. I wanted a cup of soup, 499 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: That's what I wanted. I wanted a cup of soup, 500 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: a ministrone. I would have taken a Ministron or a 501 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 2: web so both of those would have been fine. It 502 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: ended up being like a Grandma's chicken soup, which was fine, Okay, great, 503 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: I just needed I didn't want a Gramdma. I want 504 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: a broth. That's all I wanted. Give me two bowls 505 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: of that. It says the way a half hour, so 506 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: you get the kids there stuff. It's right across the street. 507 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: Go over across the street, park in the pickup lot. 508 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: I text I'm here. We wait about five to seven minutes, 509 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: and I'm like in my head, I'm going like, all right. 510 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 4: It's a ladle and the walkout. 511 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: So I go in and I go, hey, I showed 512 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: the thing. I said, look I ordered, and I tipped 513 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: five bucks because I just I don't want any sort 514 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: of thing not to be I don't care if all 515 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: you're doing is walking it to me five bucks, enjoy it, yep, 516 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 2: on a twelve dollars tab. I don't care. It's fine. 517 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: So I show the person in the front. The person 518 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 2: the front says, when the odors are done, they'll be 519 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: on that shelf. And there's nothing on that shelf. Great response, 520 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: So I go, I get that. But all I need 521 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: is two bowls of soup. That's all I need, and 522 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: I my hunches. You make a vat of it, and 523 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: then you'd stick a ladle in and you soup it 524 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: into a bowl and you staple it and you give 525 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: it to me. That's what I think the process is. 526 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: Bill's correct. You know what she said to me. We 527 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: make every bowl of soup from scratch. 528 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 7: You don't, you, ma'am, No, you don't. Our liar a liar, liar, liar, 529 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 7: pants on fire. 530 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 3: Every bowl of soup from scratch. You may make a 531 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 3: vat of soup. 532 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: One massive one. It probably eight in the morning. 533 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. 534 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I made soup. You're a soup man. 535 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 2: I am, come on, come on now, So what am 536 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: I doing? What's my response to this? What do you say? 537 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's been a full day. I'm not going 538 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: to fight with the person at the front. I'm not 539 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 2: going to make a scene. So I'm like every bowl 540 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 2: of soup by scratch, huh yep, okay, And I went 541 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: back and waited in the car. 542 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: By the way, it would be later generate the flavor 543 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 3: profile of the soup business. Made it in one here's 544 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: one little soup. 545 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 2: If every time somebody said give me a cup of 546 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: minute strone, you were back there starting. 547 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 9: What are we doing? 548 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 4: Give me the. 549 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: Ladle, give me the lattle. 550 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. Fair. 551 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: They finally bring it out and the way we go, 552 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: So enjoy my soup. 553 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 7: Did you enjoy it? 554 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 6: Though? 555 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 2: I did? It was pretty good. It's a nice soup. 556 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: It was what I wanted. I wanted a nice suit 557 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 2: because it would be worse from a scratch. 558 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 7: And it's like, no, it's not great. 559 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: They were back there chopping carrots and so just on 560 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: the moment you got this tender quick boy, that's amazing. 561 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: It really is incredible. 562 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 4: There will do that. 563 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: It feels like this is not a good not a 564 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: good business. Plan at all. So you get so you're 565 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: playing all these games on Sunday. You get through it all, 566 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 2: playing all these games on Sunday, and it comes to 567 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: like all that the Beams's boots, he's done, hung a 568 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: little banner. He was excited. NBC's team lost in the semifinals, 569 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: so now we're just needing Beamsy's team. 570 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 4: Yep. 571 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: It plays at one to fifteen, where there's about ten 572 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: minutes left in the semifinal game. They're up four to two. 573 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: They've beaten every team in the tournament. And you hear 574 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 2: a crack of lightning at two o'clock. Crack of lightning. 575 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: So what does that mean? If you hear a crack 576 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 2: of lightning? 577 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 7: It's twenty minutes thirty Oh when did that change? Thirty 578 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 7: minutes now used to be twenty from the last one. 579 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 2: I feel like you could do it at five, quite honestly, 580 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: and you could figure it out. So thirty minutes, another 581 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: crack of lightning, reset it, another crack of lightning. Fifteen 582 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: minutes later, if there's another crack of lightning, do you 583 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: get to start over? Yep, thirty minutes from that. That's 584 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: college football, that is that's what they do. That's what 585 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: they do. Yeah. So I'm looking at the radar, and 586 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: because it's Ohio and it pours every single day, I 587 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: say to myself, well, my hunches, we're gonna be in 588 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 2: the rain for a long time. So the five of 589 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: us are sitting in the car sucking down microwave hot 590 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: dogs from the concession stands. She haven't eaten all day 591 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: anything of things. So I'm sitting there. I'm like, just 592 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: have the stones to call it. I can see on 593 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 2: the radar it's light. We're not playing, man, we're not. 594 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: By the way, you only have two turf fields. Everything 595 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 2: else is will be underwater. We all know we're done, 596 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: and all any parent in that situation wants to do 597 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: is go home. 598 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 7: So we want to Sunday. 599 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: It's fine town Sunday. I'm good. And by the way, 600 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: Beams's team didn't lose the team that they were going 601 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: to play in the final. They beat twelve to two 602 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: the day before, so they were going to win it, right. 603 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: So it's supposed to be an updated two thirty no update. 604 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: At two thirty three o'clock, we're still sitting there. So 605 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: now we've sat in there for an hour and fifteen minutes. 606 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: The kids from the two teams are going back out 607 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: on the turf to warm up because the sun's out. 608 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: It's like, hey, let's play three fifteen three twenty. Guy 609 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: comes over. Yeah, we're canceling it. You guys can all 610 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: go home. Could have done that a few hours ago. Brother, 611 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: at two o'clock, give me that. 612 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 7: At two o'clock, you're halfway home with that through I'm 613 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 7: a damn near to Mansfield. 614 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 4: Jesuise three point thirty. 615 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 2: They called it. Wow, yeah, go home, and that was 616 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: the fitting end. 617 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 7: Are you doing lacrosse here for the sum We're done. 618 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: We're done. Show's over. That was it we did and 619 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: the Spiders guys were awesome, great group, good fun, all 620 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: fun all summer. But like one thing I know, like 621 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,239 Speaker 2: in youth sports, like all anybody, just be decisive and 622 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: make a decision and just give them just when it's obvious. 623 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: Don't worry about hurting all the feelings, like, just make 624 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: it and everyone can move on. Everyone's fine. Everyone's fine. 625 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: By the way, I had a fun set of conversations 626 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: with a company, a delivery company. Okay, so I'd order 627 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: some wine that's delivered through the delivery company and they 628 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: always say, you know, in the summer, you don't want 629 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: this thing going around on trucks. So you get it, 630 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: like you get it, send it a certain way, and 631 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: then they hold it for you at the location. So 632 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: on Saturday, I get a notice at like eleven that 633 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: they attempted to deliver it, but it was nobody was there. 634 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 4: It was closed. 635 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so mind you when you. 636 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 3: Say hold it location, you're holding it at that company's location, 637 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 3: the delivery company, you know, and they have stores all 638 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: over Oh yeah, yeah, it's held at that held there, Yeah, 639 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: held there for you. So I'm like, wait a second, 640 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 3: what do you mean there's nobody there? It's open. 641 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 4: I know that. 642 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: So then I call up and I'm like, what's going on. 643 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, they tried to deliver places closed. I'm like, 644 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: how's that possible? They said, well, actually you got the 645 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: message at eleven, but they tried to deliver it at 646 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 3: five in the morning. So I said, you mean to 647 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 3: tell me that your company tried to deliver to your 648 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: company at a time in which they knew your company 649 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 3: same company was not open. 650 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: And he's like, it appears that way. 651 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 3: What are we talking about here? I said, So now, 652 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: where is it? Is it just driving around on the 653 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: truck in eighty five degrees? Like, what's going on now? 654 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: I don't know? 655 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: Great, I said, well, can you tell the person with 656 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 3: it to just go now? They're open from ten to six? Yeah, 657 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: which you guys should know. 658 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: Or just give me a street address and all I'll 659 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: go get I'll go get it. Yeah. 660 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 3: No, no, we have no way to contact the drivers. Like, 661 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: I can't believe that's true, I said, But that's fine. 662 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 3: We're not going to litigate this out. So he said, 663 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: let me can I talk to the manager? Just like 664 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: I just want to understand how this happens. So I'm 665 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: Askeding's like, well, that doesn't make a lot of sense. 666 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: Then she goes, well, actually it's because the facility it's 667 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: at is closed. They just call it that. I said, 668 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: So it was iver attempted to deliver. I said, here's 669 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 3: the text. I'll read it to you. Your package was 670 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 3: attempted to be delivered today. It will have to be 671 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 3: delivered a later date because the business was closed. I said, 672 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: so why are you guys saying She's like, well, our 673 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 3: computer system's very backed up and it's sending some some 674 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: wrong messages. I'm like, come on, what are we doing here? 675 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: So ultimately, anyway, apparently it was never attempted. Who knows, 676 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: but like the fact that the story that they were 677 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 3: giving me at first was that they attempted to deliver 678 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 3: it to their own company when they knew their own company. 679 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: I said's not like you're trying delivered to my house 680 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: and I just wasn't there. Yeah, I said, you said, 681 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: I got it held here, and you try to deliver 682 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: it to you when you weren't open. 683 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: I do think, I mean the absurdity of that. My 684 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: favorite part of it, though, is we have no way 685 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: to connect to connect with the drivers. That is in 686 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: line with we make every bowl of soup from scratch. 687 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: That's an impossible scenario. Of course, you could contact the drivers. 688 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: They have cell phones. Yeah, everyone that they know. You 689 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: know who's delivered in your packages. I can watch it 690 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: on the app drive around right. 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Quarterback 714 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 2: has been dealing with shoulder injury since last year and 715 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 2: hopes to be ready for the twenty twenty sixth season. 716 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: This just struck me, as I want to have a 717 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: good summer because he participated in the entire offseason program. 718 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: It's very see the injury happened last year. So it 719 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: just strikes me as I'm gonna you guys drafted a 720 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 2: quarterback at number one. Fine, I'm gonna have a nice 721 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: summer and then I'm gonna have the surgery and I'll 722 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: sit out next year and you can trade me after that. 723 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 4: Yep. That's what feels like to me. 724 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: It's a very strange thing, and that's something that you 725 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: see very often. But Shaq used to do this. You'd 726 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 2: have a minor surgery, like in training camp for the Lakers, 727 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: and this will really pissed Kobe off because you'd have 728 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: these surgeries, like a minor surgery and camp and Kobe'd 729 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: be like, dude, I'm ready, and now you're not gonna 730 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 2: be ready until March February. And Shack's answer was, we 731 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: have but I'll be ready when it matters in the postseason. 732 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: I'll be good. And this guy ain't Shack, No, But 733 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: that's that's what the read to me, is is that 734 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna rehab while you pay me during 735 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: the season. I'm not gonna. I'm not doing it in 736 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: my summer. 737 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 3: It's pretty wild, though, if you are Levis, because it's 738 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 3: not like you have a huge background to stand on 739 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 3: of success. They are literally trying to replace you as 740 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 3: we speak. 741 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: Have replaced you. Well, they have replaced you, Yeah. 742 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 3: Not trying. I also deemed a success, has replaced. 743 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 2: I also think like you're missing the forest through the trees. 744 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: From the standpoint of how the rest of the league 745 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: will respond to it, yeap, because I'm guessing everyone took 746 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 2: note and went like, oh, that's type of dude. 747 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 4: He is like, okay, it feels that way. 748 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, all right, we have a. 749 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 3: I do you think that they become you know, we 750 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: are a team with four quarterbacks? 751 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 4: Are they? 752 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 2: Do they become an interesting potential partner there for a 753 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: Flacco situation, Yeah, he'd be the only one as if 754 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: they if you did the two places that would seem 755 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: to make sense for me, for Joe. If if we don't, 756 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: if we were to move off of him and we're 757 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: comfortable with the three young guys, would be Minnesota and Tennessee, 758 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 2: New Orleans. I think New Orleans is trying to go 759 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 2: to the bottom. 760 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 3: I just think he feels like if they like Tyler Shuck, 761 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, he feels size wise, are oh she 762 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 3: feels like. 763 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 2: A pretty good yes, yes, doppelganger for sure. 764 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 765 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. But in terms of like mentorship and like just 766 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 2: being a pro and all of that, Like I thought 767 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: in Minnesota, like and we obviously know Quasy very well, 768 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 2: but like, I don't know who's behind JJ McCarthy there, 769 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 2: but they're ready to go, and if something were to 770 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: happen to JJ, like that would be a kind of 771 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: a perfect stop gap yep for them. So yeah, I 772 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 2: mean that could be that could be something to watch 773 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: on the on that side of things. But yeah, because 774 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: their current quarterbacks are cam Ward, Tim Boyle, and Brandon Allen. 775 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 2: I think Brandon Allen played at Arkansas. I have no 776 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 2: point of reference on Tim Boyle to TV twelve. 777 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 3: Pretty sure he started a game against US as the 778 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 3: starting quarterback for the Lions a few years ago. 779 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 7: I'll take care of your word, brother, I recognize both 780 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 7: those guys he's been with. 781 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: He's been with Green. 782 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 4: Bay as well. 783 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 3: Tim Boyle definitely started against US, and I think we 784 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 3: like somehow the rain lost that game or was much 785 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 3: closer than it should have been. 786 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 2: I have a theory. Yes, I think the reason you 787 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 2: guys know these guys is because you guys have to 788 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: be locked in for entire preseason football games. He Tim 789 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 2: Boyle started against US. I'm fine. I believe you. I 790 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 2: believe you. 791 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 7: November twenty twenty one, Tim Boyle, did we beat him? 792 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 7: Like twelve, nine, thirteen to ten? 793 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 4: We won? 794 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and bake through a few picks and it was gross. 795 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 7: Oil completed fifteen of twenty three for seventy seven yards, 796 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 7: complete for seventy seven yards. 797 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 2: Was this was that? That was the odell when it 798 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 2: all went south twenty twenty one. 799 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 4: Yes, end of twenty twenty one. Yeah, yeah, that was. 800 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 4: That was an ugly game. 801 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 7: Boil first career NFL start. 802 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, victory Monday, right, Well, we have can't say it was, no, 803 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: it was. You can't say it wasn't. 804 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 3: That's because it was. I can't say it wasn't because 805 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 3: it most most certainly was. 806 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 2: Steelers have released a throwback year in a form paying 807 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: homage their noaugural nineteen thirty three season. They wear them 808 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: Week eight on Sunday Night Football against the Packers. Oh, 809 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 2: that's a shame they're doing it against the Packers. 810 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 4: It is a shame. 811 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 2: It's a weird looking uniform. 812 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 7: It feels like all of their old ones suck. 813 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, the suck. 814 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: But I think it's just one of those things where 815 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 2: if you're going to try to do something from the 816 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: twenties and thirties, those uniform and then they'll sometimes do 817 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 2: like with the Steelers if you haven't seen them, so 818 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 2: they're wearing like a khaki khaki kind of pant to 819 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: mimic what they wore in that age, and then they 820 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: wear like it's a yellow helmet, which I don't did 821 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: they even wear helmets that. They were probably leather if 822 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: they were wearing them in nineteen thirty three, it's probably leather. 823 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 2: I'm guessing they weren't yellow. So it's a lot of 824 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 2: like kind of like faux homage. Yes, I like that, 825 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 2: it's not real like they never wore those. It's kind 826 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 2: of like what the Giant remind me what the Giants 827 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: did last year? Guys, you remember that when they took 828 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: like elements from all over one. Yeah, So that's that's 829 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 2: kind of what it is. Yeah, I wish they wouldn't 830 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 2: wear it against the Packers, because then against the Packers 831 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 2: has a look to it. 832 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 7: By the way, Brandon Allen has faced the Browns three times. 833 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 3: Wasn't didn't was Brandon Allen's first start against US as 834 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 3: a member of the Broncos, Because first start eleven three 835 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 3: nineteen did Are you have the box score for that game. 836 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 7: Twelve of twenty for one hundred and ninety three yards in. 837 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 3: Two Portland Sutton touchdown, a seventy five yard catch and run, 838 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 3: Noah Fan touchdown. 839 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 7: Maybe I don't know the answer to that yet. 840 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:20,919 Speaker 4: You know that box score? 841 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 7: Come on, no, no, I don't have the box score. I 842 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,479 Speaker 7: just have this line. 843 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'm pretty sure that was the game that led 844 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 3: to one of our players being removed from the team 845 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 3: and never to be seen in the National Football League 846 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 3: again after a. 847 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 4: Violent threat was made. 848 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: Oh radio hoose, I remember that. It's gotta be, dude, 849 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 2: it's got to be. 850 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 3: Pull up that box score, no phantom calling it seventy 851 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 3: five yard catch old touchdown. 852 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 7: And then he played against US in twenty one November 853 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 7: of twenty one as a member of the Bengals. Yeah, 854 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 7: I remember that and then in January of twenty two, 855 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 7: so Bengals again or was yeah, the Bengals again? So 856 00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 7: I think that was was that? 857 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 2: So we got the season starts a late late season. 858 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 7: To fan had three catches for one hundred and fifteen 859 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 7: yards and a touchdown twenty four to nineteen. 860 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: How was How long was a touchdown? It might have 861 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 3: been eighty even back then it might have been twenty. 862 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 3: Oh boy, it's either eighty or seventy five. It should 863 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 3: say long out run you have that stats should say long. 864 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 7: Here we go. Nope, maybe. 865 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 2: Alan did play at Arkansas. I'll fill a buster for 866 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 2: a second. He played on iphon six. He played on 867 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 2: six NFL teams Jaguars, Rams, Denver, Cincinnati, San Francisco, and 868 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,760 Speaker 2: the Titans. Career eleven and eight eleven to eight touchdown 869 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 2: to interception. He saw him for eighteen hundred yards in 870 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 2: his career. 871 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 3: B Allen has you know easy this is you got 872 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 3: a no offense career page. Then you go to his 873 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 3: great his best game of his career, and then you 874 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 3: go to that box score because guess what that was 875 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 3: the best game of no offense career just released by 876 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 3: the way, and it was a seventy five yard Noah 877 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 3: Fense seventy five yard catch and. 878 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,479 Speaker 4: Run from Brandon Allen. 879 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 3: Yep had it and Courtland Sutton was the first up 880 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 3: sound he had that too. All right, let's let's play 881 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 3: a little lots a lot in the You've seen a lot, 882 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 3: You've seen a lot of ball. 883 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 4: Brother, that was sideline days. 884 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you. This is your boy, Timmy Boyle. 885 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 2: You want to know his his college football record. 886 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 4: Where did he play? 887 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 2: He started at Yukon and then he went to Eastern Kentucky. 888 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 4: Eastern Kentucky. I know it was a direction. 889 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: Guess how many times he started more than ten games 890 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: in a year in his college career? 891 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 3: College career going to say zero based on that, Yeah, 892 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 3: because the way I did it. 893 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 2: Just once once at Eastern Kentucky he went four and seven. 894 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 2: As a college quarterback. Tim Boyle was four four and fifteen. 895 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 2: As a college quarterback. His highest completion percentage was sixty 896 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 2: one point five not exactly. Playing at Yukon, he went 897 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 2: own four oh and three oh and one, never at 898 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 2: a completion bed percentage better than fifty two point four percent. 899 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: For God's sakes. As an NFL player, he is a 900 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 2: five to thirteen touchdown to interception complete passer rating a 901 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: fifty eight point one sixty percent completion percentage. You know what, 902 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: there's not enough quarterbacks? No, No, there aren't. No, there 903 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: is no reason. What are they? Why is he on 904 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 2: a roster? How has he started a game in the league? 905 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 4: Man almost beat us? 906 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 2: I know, I mean that's crazy. 907 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 4: He did. 908 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 2: He was a bad college quarterback and. 909 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 7: Somehow has found his way into being clipboard boil. 910 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 4: It's a great gate if you have it. 911 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, great, he's. 912 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 2: Nott Colt McCoy. No, with that college career. He's not 913 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 2: Bradon Allen with his. 914 00:43:59,080 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 9: No. 915 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: That's why did you see this piece was in here? 916 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 4: No, I just knew that he had been released Seahawks. 917 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 2: Release veteran tied in Noah Fan twenty nineteen first round pick. 918 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 2: That while there you go, we end up in a 919 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 2: Noah Fan world. He's acquired in the twenty twenty two 920 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 2: trade that sent Russ to Denver. 921 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was. 922 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 3: He had a catch and run and there was people 923 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 3: were critical. I think safe you Drome Whitehead? 924 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 2: I think was his name? 925 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 4: Is that right, Kibben? 926 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 2: Yes, that strikes men. It did not go well from 927 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 2: there it did not Former Brown center J. C. Trettor 928 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 2: resigning from his position as the nfl PA's Chief strategy 929 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 2: officer withdrawing himself for consideration for the nflpa's interim executive 930 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 2: director that was previously filled by Lloyd Howell. This is 931 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 2: a surprise. Did you read his comments? Not only did 932 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 2: he say decline, he said. 933 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 7: Sat down for an hour with Jonathan Jones. 934 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 2: I believe I want nothing to do with any of you. 935 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty he's strenuously opposed being appointed. I'm out. 936 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 4: Good luck, see on down the road. 937 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 2: It's been a rough, yeah, stretch for the NFLPA res. 938 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 939 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll always remember him for breaking down Game 940 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 2: of Thrones with us. 941 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, he was great. 942 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 2: And didn't he get didn't we set him up with 943 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 2: like the uh didn't they have the Scotch for every house? Yes, 944 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 2: that we sit like six bottles of Scotch, one for 945 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:20,959 Speaker 2: every house. 946 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 7: That was what we did. 947 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 2: That was the right thing to do. He gave us 948 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 2: a lot of his time. 949 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 7: He did. 950 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 2: It was every Monday, he'd give us an like forty 951 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 2: five minutes. Yeah, on the breakdown, he was great. The 952 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 2: chiefs and defensive end George Karloft dis agreed to a 953 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 2: four year, ninety three million dollars cension includes sixty two 954 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 2: million in guarantees. Uh so he gets paid a little 955 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 2: bit there. This is always a tricky one because you 956 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I talked about this a little bit this morning. 957 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 2: President Trump threatening withhold a new stadium deal for the 958 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 2: Commanders if they did not change their name back to Redskins, 959 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,240 Speaker 2: also wants the Guardians to revert back to the Indians. 960 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 2: The Guardians have replied saying they have no plans to 961 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 2: change their name. The Commanders have done the same that 962 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 2: they're not changing their name back either on either front. 963 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 7: What I don't know. 964 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: I don't think you can tell like private business what 965 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 2: to do with how to name their teams. I don't 966 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 2: think you can do that, But who knows. It always 967 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 2: just came back to having I grew up forty five 968 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 2: minutes south of the Blackfeet Indian Reservation. It always just 969 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: came back to the And I've said this many times 970 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 2: in the show for Washington. It was the name. It 971 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 2: was just it was the name. Like if they were 972 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 2: any other if they had if they were the Indians, 973 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,919 Speaker 2: they'd have been fine. Probably would have been fine. And 974 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 2: if the Indians didn't have Wahoo, they would have been fine. 975 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 4: I think that's right. 976 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: So they like if the Redskins logo, if the Indians 977 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 2: owned that, that Blackie Wetzel image, he's the artist who 978 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 2: did it. If that was their logo, they'd still be 979 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 2: the Indians. I really believe that. I just think that 980 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 2: they they were crossed. Both were just the image was 981 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 2: wrong on the Indian side and the name is wrong 982 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 2: on the good Skins. 983 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 4: The Seminoles of right Florida State's gotten to keep. 984 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, what they they were very smart though they I 985 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 2: was down there when that all went down and they 986 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 2: went to the Seminole tribe and said, what do you 987 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 2: need from us to keep this? And so like if 988 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 2: you go to Dop Campbell Stadium in Tallahassee, there is 989 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 2: a Seminal flag that flies over it over the stadium. 990 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 2: They have the They did a giant bronze statue called Unconquered, 991 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 2: which is Chief Asciola on the spear like massive outside 992 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 2: the front of the stadium. Very regal, dignified. Look the 993 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 2: actual Chief Osciola, who's the representative on the horse that 994 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 2: they run out with in the games. All of his 995 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 2: apparel is approved by and given to the to Florida 996 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 2: State by the Seminole tribe. The Appaloosa horses come from 997 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 2: the exact same breeder, so they're very specific about how 998 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 2: it's used and that it's revered and all of that. 999 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 2: All of the name, image and license stuff that's done 1000 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 2: in terms of using Seminol is approved by them. So 1001 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 2: it's a true partnership. Yep, is what it is. That's 1002 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 2: that's that's what they did and that's why they've been 1003 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 2: able to keep it. Soich is the way that you 1004 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 2: present it has a lot to do with that. 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Bally Bet, 1014 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 2: official sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. All right, 1015 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 2: let's go around the sports world with a little bit 1016 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 2: of audio. Let's start with Cowboys owner Jarah Jones if 1017 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 2: he views the Micah Parsons contract extension as an urgent matter. 1018 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 8: I don't view it as urgent at all. And you know, 1019 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 8: some say, well, using the basis that the earlier you 1020 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 8: get something done, the cheaper. Whether earlier you get something 1021 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 8: done a lot of times, the more mistakes you make, 1022 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 8: and you might want to see a few more cards play, 1023 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 8: not just with that particular negotiation, but. 1024 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 6: With the whole team. 1025 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 8: And so I know I'm kind of being a little 1026 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 8: defensive here, but the idea that the only success is 1027 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 8: getting a contract done at an early time is incorrect. 1028 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 8: And I'd rather pay more and get it right than 1029 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 8: I had pay less and screw it up. 1030 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 2: Do you think he ever wins another Super Bowl as 1031 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 2: the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. 1032 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,919 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say no. I still think it's a place 1033 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 3: that people like to go. I think they have had 1034 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 3: some very talented teams. It feels like no, just because 1035 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 3: it's very hard to do so. But I wouldn't say 1036 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 3: an absolutely, an absolute in absolute terms. 1037 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 2: No, He's eighty two, so they're not really close. I mean, 1038 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 2: I mean they have Dak, So you got Dak, he 1039 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 2: got Parsons, you got CD and Pick. They got some guys, 1040 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 2: They got some guys, got good corner, they got some guys. 1041 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got some guys. 1042 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 2: But that does feel like they had They're in the 1043 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,720 Speaker 2: kind of the back end of this window. 1044 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 3: It feels like they're in the third. They're preseason at 1045 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 3: least on paper, third in that division. Ye Eagles defending 1046 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 3: Super Bowl champs Commanders. 1047 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's listen. Listen in on the Herd 1048 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 2: from Colin cow Herd. Let's start with Urban Meyer. On 1049 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 2: with the Herd. If he thinks Nick Saban would go 1050 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 2: back to college. 1051 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 7: I don't think he'd go back to college, right. 1052 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 5: I don't see that fit. I think you're, you know, 1053 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 5: the whole idea that where the heck is Alabama? Why 1054 00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 5: are they not in the top ten and spending I 1055 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 5: don't understand that one and push the boar. I'd be 1056 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 5: asking some hard questions, say what's the problem here. We 1057 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 5: can't compete, we can't pay our players. So I agree 1058 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 5: with you. I would say very little to no chance 1059 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 5: he would get involved in college. But I think he 1060 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 5: would take phone calls from the NFL. 1061 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,720 Speaker 2: I don't think he would do that either at this stage. 1062 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 2: Maybe is I think he's even Is he older than. 1063 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 3: Belichick or younger Saban, Yeah, I think older. 1064 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,399 Speaker 7: I get all these guys are competitive and they want 1065 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 7: to keep going as long as they can, and they 1066 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 7: want to be they want to win, and they want 1067 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 7: to be the best that they can be. But cant like, dude, 1068 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 7: you're living your best life on game day. 1069 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 2: They don't. Here's the thing though, is like I was 1070 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 2: actually surprised he did that because what he's signed now, 1071 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 2: he's got private They do the private plane transport for 1072 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 2: him to and from and all that stuff. So it's 1073 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: not like he's stuck, you know, like me at a 1074 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 2: you know, roadside fill in the blank, sweet hotel. Well, 1075 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 2: but at the same point, like it is still a 1076 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 2: six am Sunday wake up on air at nine am 1077 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 2: every Saturday, and that's and he don't need that either. 1078 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 2: So I was surprised he took that job because it's 1079 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 2: three hours of television every week. 1080 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it is. 1081 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 2: You can't cheat it, Like that's the job, and it's 1082 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 2: now that's a job that at one point was kind 1083 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 2: of over by the end of November and now goes 1084 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 2: into damn near February all the way through January for sure. 1085 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 2: So it's a much it's much more labor intensive. I'll 1086 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 2: tell you this. I think he'd be a better NFL 1087 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 2: head coach than Belichick is going to be a college 1088 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 2: head coach. Yes, Like I think Saved would have success 1089 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 2: in the league. 1090 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1091 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 2: I mean he's that organized and I think everybody has 1092 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 2: universal respect for him. I think he would be just fine, 1093 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 2: and I think he'd do it for a few years. 1094 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1095 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 4: Sure, he's somebody who could end up to me in Dallas. 1096 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought the same about Belichick. 1097 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1098 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Who is their coach now? 1099 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 4: Oh it's Brian Shot Brian hot shot, hum shot. Wow. 1100 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 2: Speaking of Coward, here is Colin Coward on the differing 1101 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 2: opinions in the NFL when it comes to Shudeur Sanders. 1102 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 6: In my life kind of being around the NFL thirty 1103 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 6: years of doing this talk show stuff, I don't think 1104 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,800 Speaker 6: there's ever been a player where there's a wider variance 1105 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 6: of opinion between the media and NFL executives. The media, 1106 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 6: myself included, saw him as a B prospect, a good, 1107 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,320 Speaker 6: solid in a very very weak quarterback draft class. Certainly 1108 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 6: arguable first round prospect, maybe a second third round talent, 1109 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 6: but you know, solid, good family DNA, moved well, historically, accurate, 1110 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 6: a good kid, not a bad kid. Certainly a better 1111 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 6: prospect than first round er Kenny Pickett by far and 1112 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 6: against good teams. Was always productive without a lot of mistakes, 1113 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 6: and yet he slid to. 1114 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: The fifth round. 1115 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 6: So how he is viewed by the NFL and the 1116 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 6: professionals there who I respect and trust, and how he's 1117 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 6: viewed by everybody else, it's an incredible gap. 1118 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's largely. 1119 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 3: It is, But I also don't think it's can you 1120 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,240 Speaker 3: pick it taken strays. 1121 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is unnessary. I don't think that. 1122 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 3: It's accurate based on where he was drafted, but where 1123 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 3: he was drafted is not based on that they watched 1124 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 3: the same tape that the media people did and came 1125 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 3: to different conclusions. They didn't no on tape. Everybody would 1126 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 3: was in the same ballpark first into the middle of 1127 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 3: the second round. That's it, But there was all the 1128 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 3: other stuff that the TV people aren't privy to. That 1129 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 3: and the way that it was Hahnmile We've talked about 1130 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 3: it ed nausea. But now he's here and he's ours, 1131 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 3: and he's done a great job. Since he's been here, 1132 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 3: he's been really good. Gibbe, do we have anywhere the 1133 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 3: Judy Battista quote from NFL Network today talking about Dylan Gabriel. 1134 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 7: I don't, but I can look forward that. 1135 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should tell you you listened to w k 1136 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 2: N R eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, a good Karma brand station. 1137 00:54:59,640 --> 00:54:59,839 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1138 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 2: I mean that's the way that that we talked about 1139 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 2: this in the fallout of the draft and how all 1140 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 2: of that kind of shook out and why it went 1141 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 2: the way that it did. This, Oh, this was the 1142 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 2: thing I was alluding to earlier. This was Scotty. We 1143 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 2: talked a little bit about Scotty winning at the Open. 1144 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 2: He was asked about the comparisons to Tiger Wood tiger Woods. 1145 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 2: Here's what Scotty had to say. I still think they're 1146 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 2: a bit silly. 1147 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 10: You know, Tiger one, what fifteen majors, this is my fourth, 1148 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 10: could just got one fourth of the way there. So 1149 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 10: just I think Tiger stands alone in the game of golf. 1150 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 10: You know, he was inspirational for me growing up and 1151 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 10: he was a very, very talented guy, and he was 1152 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 10: a special person to be able to be as good 1153 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 10: as he was of the game of golf. And I 1154 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 10: don't focus on that kind of stuff. 1155 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 7: That's not what motivates me. 1156 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm not not. 1157 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 10: Motivated by winning championships and I don't I don't look 1158 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 10: at the beginning of the year and just say, hey, 1159 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 10: I want to win xmount of tournaments. 1160 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 7: I want to win you know, whatever it is. I 1161 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 7: don't do that. 1162 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:47,280 Speaker 11: Yeah. 1163 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 2: That adds up, Yep, that adds up. 1164 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,840 Speaker 4: Yep. We've talked about that absolutely. 1165 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 2: All right, second hour of the program coming your way next. 1166 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 2: Z will give us his five biggest questions for the 1167 00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 2: Browns heading into Camp NFL Triplet rankings as well. You 1168 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 2: have that to look forward to, which is nice. You 1169 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 2: listen to Cleveland Browns Daily. 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Elkin ox Pow, partner of your 1177 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Z had mentioned this and Gibbie found it. 1178 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,320 Speaker 2: This is Judy Batista on the NFL Network in regard 1179 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:47,240 Speaker 2: to Dylan Gabriel. 1180 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 12: Well, if we believe the language that they use going 1181 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 12: back to the spring, they're going to value processing time, 1182 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 12: decision making, that kind of thing. They want somebody who's 1183 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 12: going to be able to run the offfence, minimize mistakes, 1184 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 12: make good decisions, things like that. They use those words 1185 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 12: a lot, processing speed and decision making when they talked 1186 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 12: about Dylan Gabriel, especially in the spring. Don't forget he 1187 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 12: has a whole lot of experience from college football six 1188 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 12: years worth. So they were impressed with his processing speed 1189 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 12: to the point where they said, like in the spring, 1190 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 12: they were putting more on his plate than they initially 1191 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 12: thought they were going to to do for him. They 1192 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 12: kept giving him more information because he was absorbing it 1193 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 12: so much. Now, of course, when you look at Joe Flacco, 1194 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 12: there's no question they know how he processes things and 1195 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 12: how he runs the offense because he's already done it. 1196 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 12: They went to a playoff with Joe Flacco. So the 1197 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 12: spring was mostly about just putting Joe Flacco to the side, 1198 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 12: getting Kenny Pickett up to speed on this offense, which 1199 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 12: he has not played in before, and then getting the 1200 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 12: rookies going. But if you're looking at the quarterback competition, 1201 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 12: it's really two quarterback competitions. The competition between the two 1202 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 12: rookies and then the competition between the two veterans. Certainly, 1203 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 12: I think at this early point you would say Joe 1204 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 12: Flacco has to have the end just because he's been 1205 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 12: there and one there, and then I think you keep 1206 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 12: an eye on Dylan Gabriel, who I think caught some 1207 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 12: eyes in the spring with again with how quickly he 1208 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 12: was absorbing information. 1209 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 13: Well, what you just said, Judy about the competition between 1210 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 13: the veterans and the competition between the rookies, because you're 1211 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 13: not keeping four quarterbacks, You've got four on the roster here, 1212 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 13: so you've got those two you traded for Kenny Pickett 1213 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 13: to then just get rid of him doesn't make much sense. 1214 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 13: You've got those two, who's the one, who's the two? 1215 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 13: And then which one are you keeping on the roster? 1216 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 13: Potentially could keep the fourth on the practice squad. You 1217 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,919 Speaker 13: could have four quarterbacks in the building, just not necessarily 1218 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 13: on the roster. So I think that that's the way 1219 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 13: it's going to play out. Which of those rookies can 1220 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 13: put stuff on tape in the preseason that makes it 1221 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 13: hard for the Browns to then subject one of them 1222 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 13: to get through waivers to get onto the practice squad. 1223 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 2: All right, there you go. You heard that last part. 1224 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 2: There was that Palasaro pressing on that. Yeah, in terms 1225 00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 2: of what to do with the four roster or Mike, Mike, sorry, yeah, Mike. Yeah. 1226 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 3: Look, Dylan Gabriel. They liked the fact that he'd started 1227 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 3: so many games. They liked when they got him on 1228 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 3: the whiteboard. There are a lot of people that said 1229 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 3: he had the best pre draft process, not Browns talking, 1230 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 3: this is around the league. Yeah, the best pre draft 1231 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 3: process of any quarterback in the draft. The reason Dylan 1232 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 3: Gabriel didn't go earlier is because of his size. Yeah, 1233 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 3: if he were six', four he probably would have gone 1234 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 3: first or second, overall probably would have gone. 1235 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 2: One, yeah but he's. 1236 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 3: Not but the processing that is something we know is 1237 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 3: very very important in this type of an. Offense if 1238 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 3: you have somebody who's an elite. Processor even if they, 1239 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 3: are you, know have an average arm And GABRIEL i 1240 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 3: think has an above average. 1241 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 4: Arm you can. 1242 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 3: Win look at What Brock purdy has done In San, 1243 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 3: francisco was the last pick in the, draft seventh round, 1244 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 3: Pick so it can be. Done and they're very pleased 1245 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 3: with that aspect of. THEM i think if you look 1246 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 3: at the, two you would, say you, Know shador is 1247 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 3: a better throw of the, Football gabriel is a better. 1248 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 3: Processor right, now the ultimate is when you have all of, 1249 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 3: it AND i Think shador needs to get up to 1250 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 3: speed obviously on being a processor and doing the things 1251 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 3: pre snap and post snap that you have to do 1252 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 3: in THE nfl that he was not asked to do 1253 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 3: in college through no fault of his. OWN i want 1254 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 3: to make that abundantly, clear and then you're going to 1255 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 3: see where it's. At but that's kind of where we. 1256 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 3: Are that's what's going on right now with these. Quarterbacks 1257 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 3: and when we talk, QUARTERBACKS i get dressed, up. 1258 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 2: Look, great thank. You is there a little orange in 1259 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 2: that looks like maybe a little orange in the pattern 1260 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 2: to a little. 1261 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 4: RED i think it's a little, red. 1262 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 2: Maybe just because it's pressed up against our. Oranges. Oranger, 1263 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 2: yeah it pops pops a little bit. 1264 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 4: More, yeah, sure. 1265 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 2: YEAH i think the thing to the one thing that 1266 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 2: Anytime kevin has talked On dylan since the draft to 1267 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 2: probably you talking to him on you had Him saturday 1268 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 2: at the, event, right one thing he said is that 1269 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 2: everybody knows and that this is Why dylan fell the 1270 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 2: way that he did because it didn't. FALL i, mean 1271 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 2: some people maybe think we reach for him in the third, 1272 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 2: round but the reason that he was even available is 1273 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 2: because of the. Height you, know What kevin has said 1274 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 2: consistently is it never shows up on. Film. Correct there 1275 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 2: was never a thing When i'm watching film Where i'm, like, 1276 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 2: oh he could have made that if he was two inches, 1277 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 2: taller three inches. Taller there's none of. That there's nothing 1278 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 2: where there's not balls batted. Down he doesn't get balls batted. 1279 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 2: Down and it's one of those. THINGS i forget which. 1280 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 2: Quarterback it might have Been kyler who said, it because 1281 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 2: that's size, wise it's bigger Than. Kyler but we know 1282 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 2: Because i've sitod next to both of. Them the thing 1283 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 2: that That kyler always said is, like this is the 1284 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 2: only Height i've ever, been, RIGHT i don't, know this 1285 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,440 Speaker 2: is SO i know all of. This breeze knew. This 1286 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 2: Like breeze wasn't a guy who had, balls batted down a, 1287 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 2: lot that's what he was used to. Doing so like 1288 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 2: this is the only. Way this is the only Hight 1289 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 2: dylan's ever. Been it's not a problem on, film you. 1290 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 3: Know and now what you're seeing, Is, okay does that 1291 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 3: jump from college to the L? 1292 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah does it now show? Up did not show up in? 1293 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 3: College and he was making throws With Abdul carter bearing 1294 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 3: down on, him With Mason graham bearing down on, him 1295 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 3: with all you, know the big players in The Big. 1296 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 2: Ten did it show up? 1297 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 4: Then? 1298 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,920 Speaker 3: No will it show up? Now that's the big. Question 1299 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 3: AND i think that's one of the things that you, 1300 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 3: know as far along and processing all of that is, 1301 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 3: great you still have to be able to deliver. 1302 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 2: The football on time and. 1303 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 3: Accurately the other thing that you need to be able 1304 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 3: to do is. 1305 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 4: You need. 1306 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 3: To be able to withstand the riggers of playing the. 1307 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 3: Position and he needed to do it while you're wearing. 1308 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 3: Pads we haven't seen these guys throw pass in. Pads, 1309 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 3: No and that's just. 1310 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 2: Part of the reality of The National Football. 1311 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 3: League so we're a long way from home in terms 1312 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 3: of you know what this is ultimately going to be 1313 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 3: in this quarterback, race but we're gonna get there and 1314 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 3: we're going to get some. Information and AS i said 1315 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 3: at the, BEGINNING i think we're weeks away from a 1316 01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 3: starting quarterback being. 1317 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 4: Named so you. 1318 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 2: Got to get this team ready for week. 1319 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 4: One and it's. 1320 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 3: INTERESTING i was talking with Coach, fancy AND i think 1321 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 3: this is this is one of the big differences between you, 1322 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 3: know people like us who talk about it and then 1323 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 3: people who live it every, day like you look at the, 1324 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,920 Speaker 3: schedule AND i kind of made the, Point i'm, like 1325 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,440 Speaker 3: you've got last. YEAR i don't think we had a 1326 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 3: division game until week seven or. Eight it was well 1327 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 3: into the. Season was you, know you have three into 1328 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 3: your first, six including your first. Two you're playing teams 1329 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 3: that all won ten or more. Games each of your 1330 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 3: first six opponents all won ten or more games a year. 1331 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 3: Ago so you don't have a ramp up. Period, no you. 1332 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 3: Don't and and he said that doesn't even exist in THE. 1333 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 3: Nfl AND i think in some cases maybe it does 1334 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 3: for better, teams but maybe when you're, here you're. Not 1335 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 3: BUT i thought that that schedule would impact things maybe 1336 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 3: more than it actually. Will and that was from my outside. 1337 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 3: Perspective here's terms of what you're trying to do and 1338 01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:57,920 Speaker 3: prepare in all of. 1339 01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 2: That but here's WHAT i would, say, though is like 1340 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 2: the only Pushback i'd give to coach on, That and 1341 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 2: he's won TWO Nfl coaches of The year AND i 1342 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 2: host the show with, you so we're very different where we. 1343 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 2: Are is that Like belichick had a ramp up with The. 1344 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 4: Patriots, yeah they are always going later in the. 1345 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 2: City The, bengals, now it got them last, year but 1346 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,439 Speaker 2: they've had ramp ups and then they get, going Even, 1347 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 2: baltimore like you don't always come out like there is 1348 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 2: no way that if you are a team trying to 1349 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 2: track down a, title trying to win a, Division, yeah 1350 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 2: the division game is an attention. Getter So i'm with 1351 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 2: you on. That like you Opened Cincinnati, baltimore that's an 1352 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 2: attention getter for me, bigly, definitely, Absolutely so like that's 1353 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 2: not a ramp up. Situation but also, like no one 1354 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 2: is trying to be your best In. September, no not 1355 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 2: if your team that's a, contender you're, not. 1356 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 4: No, so. 1357 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 3: But in this, case if you want to be a. 1358 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 3: Contender you're going to have to be better than some 1359 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 3: of the best in your division and conference and some 1360 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 3: of the best in THE nfc right out of the 1361 01:04:59,400 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 3: right out of the. 1362 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 2: Game, yeah it's. CRAZY i mean it's it's a really 1363 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 2: tough start with With, Bengals, Ravens packers At, Lions vikings 1364 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 2: In london At. Steelers so, yeah and. 1365 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 4: One of the you lose one of those home games 1366 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 4: is not really a home, game. 1367 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah all, right let's do your five biggest 1368 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 2: questions for this team heading in to training. Camp, uh, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback. 1369 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 3: Quarterback, well let's get what that's number. One we'll, go you, 1370 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 3: know go through. This number five for me is going 1371 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 3: to be the safety. Room so that's you, Know Ronnie 1372 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 3: hickman in his first year as a, starter the veterans 1373 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,959 Speaker 3: that were brought, In jenkins And. Kz you, know who 1374 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 3: is the number two With delpit AND i think it's 1375 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 3: going to Be, hickman and then who's the number? Three 1376 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 3: you know when we play some of our Diamond nickel 1377 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 3: looks that this is a completely different. 1378 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 2: Room, yeah and it's, uh it's a lot On, ronnie 1379 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 2: but there's insurance now for him, too with with guys 1380 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 2: that that coaching staff knows and some familiarity and a 1381 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,880 Speaker 2: big year is gonna be needed For. DELPIT i, Mean 1382 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 2: delpit needs to be a. Playmaker if if, this if 1383 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna have success this, year our defense needs to 1384 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 2: be so dynamic and our back End miles up, Front 1385 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 2: Mason graham up, front but our back end needs to 1386 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 2: be like turnover. Machines, yep that's what needs to. Happen 1387 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 2: you need to have some pick, Six we need to have. 1388 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 2: Interceptions you got to do. 1389 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 3: It, Yeah we're gonna and put ourselves in in good. 1390 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 3: Positions number four for, Me i've bet a. Bone i'm 1391 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 3: gonna stay away from running backs in this. Five, okay 1392 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 3: we don't know what it is. Yet, yeah AND i 1393 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 3: still feel like With Dylan sampson And Jerome, ford like 1394 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 3: it's not a bad. Room it's not what we were 1395 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 3: hoping it was gonna. Be but then, again it might. 1396 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 3: Be we just don't. Know So i'm that's Why i'm 1397 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 3: keeping that one out of it BECAUSE i just don't 1398 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 3: know what that's gonna. Be another one THAT i don't 1399 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 3: have in that people probably would say maybe you should 1400 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 3: have in is how quickly Can Carson sweessinger be in? 1401 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 3: THERE i think this is a real issue the line backing, 1402 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 3: room you know with it no J, okay you Know 1403 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 3: sweah or you draft them thirty third, overall like you 1404 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,200 Speaker 3: need an immediate. Impact you, know Can haul And Mason 1405 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 3: graham get it going on the d. Line BUT i 1406 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 3: don't think those are the most. PRESSING i think number 1407 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 3: four is Is Dustin hopkins. BACK i think we're going 1408 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 3: to play a lot OF i think when we, WIN 1409 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 3: i think we're going to be winning in close games 1410 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 3: where it's ball, control no, mistakes run the, football hit 1411 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 3: some shots when they're, there play really really good, defense 1412 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,560 Speaker 3: and like to win in. Those the year we went 1413 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 3: to the, playoffs you, know D hop was money and 1414 01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 3: helped us win a lot of those type of. Games, 1415 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah SO i think that that's that's that's a big. 1416 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 3: One is d hop back to be in D? Hop 1417 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,280 Speaker 3: number three is who is the number two wide? Receiver 1418 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 3: who is number three wide? Receiver, like do we have 1419 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 3: a legitimate group of playmakers there and you have them 1420 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 3: the leading Can it would be Obviously tilman And Deontay, 1421 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,919 Speaker 3: Johnson But tilman has health issues And Deontay johnson Has 1422 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 3: i'm here on the league minimum, issues and why is 1423 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,679 Speaker 3: that the case When i'm a former pro bowler who's 1424 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 3: still in their. Prime so you, know As thrash stepped, 1425 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 3: up is can anybody step? Up is that room? 1426 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 2: Sufficient? 1427 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,639 Speaker 3: Yeah the number two question for me is the offensive, 1428 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:32,720 Speaker 3: Line not so much the, starters but the. Depth you, 1429 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 3: know if there is an, injury Is Zach ziner ready to? 1430 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 3: Go Is Luke whippler back from his broken? Leg Tevin 1431 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 3: jenkins ready to? Go started a lot of games at, 1432 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 3: tackle It's Cornelius. Lucas and then who's the fourth? Tackle 1433 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:46,760 Speaker 3: is there a viable fourth? 1434 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 4: Tackle? 1435 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah and then obviously now you have on the before 1436 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,600 Speaker 3: you get to the big, one which we've talked about a. 1437 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 2: Lot the wide receiver questions are. Massive the playmaker questions are, 1438 01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:58,640 Speaker 2: massive AND i think you can get some of that 1439 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 2: as we've talked about a lot tight ends With fannin 1440 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 2: and chief, like they can give You mismatcheduffs and. Fanom, 1441 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,080 Speaker 2: essentially it'll be kind of a de facto receiver by the, 1442 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:07,640 Speaker 2: time all of a, SUDDEN i agree with, that but 1443 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,599 Speaker 2: you still gotta have you have to have somebody out. 1444 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 2: Tilman if tilman can give you what he gave you 1445 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,519 Speaker 2: in that stretch last. Year, yeah he's. Great that's a 1446 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 2: Nice you need. That, yeah you really need that out of. 1447 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 2: Him so that's. Critical and then up front you mentioned 1448 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,680 Speaker 2: the depth part on the offensive, line but like your 1449 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,719 Speaker 2: starters at, tackle think About jack last year in camp 1450 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,880 Speaker 2: with all the injuries he dealt. With remember'm getting off 1451 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 2: the plane at The, greenbrier think about dwand, yeah like 1452 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,320 Speaker 2: you got to. Play we need seventeen. Games, yeah out 1453 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 2: of these. Guys so there's it's. Massive and then of 1454 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 2: course go. 1455 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,719 Speaker 3: Ahead number, One number one's. Quarterback who is the quarterback? 1456 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 3: Starting what is the? Plan when will we see the? 1457 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,599 Speaker 3: Rookies will we see the? Rookies what does it look? 1458 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:56,360 Speaker 3: Like are we able to operate? Effectively all of? It that's, It, 1459 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,360 Speaker 3: like that's that's where we're. 1460 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,679 Speaker 2: At i'm going to be so fascinated by the first 1461 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 2: open camp Is, Thursday, Friday, Friday, Thursday, Friday, Friday, Friday, 1462 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 2: friday two. O'clock so that's the one we'll be able to. 1463 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:15,680 Speaker 2: See i'm so fascinated to see the, order the amount of, 1464 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 2: reps what they're, repping who they're throwing, to who they're, 1465 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 2: blocking for because there just isn't enough time to do. 1466 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 2: This WHEN i talked To kevin in that final conversation 1467 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,400 Speaker 2: we had before we kicked off for, SUMMER i said 1468 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,719 Speaker 2: that straight to. Him i'm, like this isn't seventy five 1469 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 2: what he hayes one hundred and fifty guys on the 1470 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:36,120 Speaker 2: roster to today practices sometimes three a. Days he's got a, 1471 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 2: finite finite amount of time that he's got to get 1472 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 2: a lot of work done and get a view of 1473 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 2: who these guys. Are and he can't be messing around 1474 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 2: with Making every rep has to be accounted. For. Yep 1475 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 2: every rep's. Critical it's. Critical so if you're out here On, 1476 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,880 Speaker 2: friday pay attention to, that pay attention to who's playing with, 1477 01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,720 Speaker 2: who pay attention to how much they're playing with other, 1478 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 2: people pay attention To and. 1479 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 3: How is it evolving absolute time based on? Performance does 1480 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 3: it change practice to? 1481 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 2: Practice? RIGHT i think they're the ones here in the 1482 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,800 Speaker 2: beginning you could, see, Right but at some POINT i 1483 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,719 Speaker 2: think we're going to settle. 1484 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 4: In, Right we're going to settle into. 1485 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 2: Well you guys will be In carolina Early, August, like 1486 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 2: what's that look? 1487 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,320 Speaker 4: Like joint? 1488 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:21,000 Speaker 2: Practices to? 1489 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,040 Speaker 3: Me do not feel like you're certainly not going to 1490 01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 3: waste any reps. There but at the same, time it 1491 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 3: feels very important to me that if you, believe you, 1492 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:35,400 Speaker 3: know the young guys have an opportunity to maybe, play 1493 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 3: you need to see them in those real competitive situations 1494 01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 3: against real. 1495 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:39,680 Speaker 2: Opponents. 1496 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:44,559 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah so it's a tough thing getting all of 1497 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 3: these guys ready to actually have a, competition but then 1498 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 3: also getting one of them ready to start Against, Cincinnati, 1499 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 3: Baltimore Green, Bay, Detroit, minnesota And. 1500 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh by the. 1501 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 3: Way you say what you, Want we don't know ABOUT 1502 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 3: jj McCarthy. There that's a defense Under Brian flores that 1503 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 3: gets after the Quarterback blitze more than. Anybody that's going 1504 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,800 Speaker 3: to be a full Day cincinnati their, defense we don't 1505 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 3: know if they're going to have their guys up. Front 1506 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 3: maybe that's the easiest one you, have might. Be baltimore 1507 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 3: finished the season is the best defense in THE nfl 1508 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 3: basically over the back half of the. Year detroit is 1509 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,559 Speaker 3: a monster, defense Green bay is an excellent, defense and 1510 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,719 Speaker 3: The steelers are always an excellent. 1511 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,960 Speaker 2: Defense yeah, always all, right you gotta go meet with. 1512 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,719 Speaker 2: LUMINARIES i Believe jeron AND i are going to continue 1513 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,519 Speaker 2: after this quick time. 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Are where is your headspace 1529 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 2: as this team heads to camp already some of these guys, 1530 01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 2: reported but heads to first practices here On wednesday and 1531 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,640 Speaker 2: first open training camp practice by the time we get To, Friday. 1532 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 11: Well my headspace bow is a. Foundation it's about landa. 1533 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 11: Foundation last year you did not lay a. Foundation we 1534 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,360 Speaker 11: had a situation where guys were openly saying that they 1535 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,639 Speaker 11: were in, shape weren't ready to go in the course 1536 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,240 Speaker 11: of a, season not the first week or, two but 1537 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 11: like four or five games into. It SO i say to, myself, 1538 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 11: foundation here's an. Opportunity whether it's been extremely, hot that's 1539 01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 11: a great thing for our football team and lay the. 1540 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 11: Foundation and that means going out there and exerting yourself 1541 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,360 Speaker 11: BECAUSE i don't get it. BOTH i don't get why 1542 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,400 Speaker 11: people think when you have success that you take off 1543 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 11: you work harder because everyone's going to have to do 1544 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 11: there's no room for, rest no ones. Laurels so it's 1545 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 11: about working even. Harder and with us obviously going three and, 1546 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,479 Speaker 11: fourteen teams are going to sleep on us and not 1547 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 11: take a Serious but here's an opportunity again to lay the. 1548 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,679 Speaker 11: Foundation so that's What i'm paying attention to the level 1549 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 11: of exertion and just intensity it's going to be taking 1550 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 11: place at training. 1551 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 2: Camp how did your headspace change over the years of 1552 01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 2: YOUR nfl career from maybe what you thought training camp 1553 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,680 Speaker 2: was as an as a young, player to by the 1554 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,080 Speaker 2: time you were a, veteran your, approach how did it 1555 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 2: change for? 1556 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,679 Speaker 11: You, well it was always grueling because we had double, 1557 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,920 Speaker 11: days so there was no way of escaping that unless 1558 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,160 Speaker 11: you were just a starter and you were littified and 1559 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 11: you had the liberty of, saying you know, WHAT i 1560 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,400 Speaker 11: don't feel like going. Today but as you once surround 1561 01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 11: yourself with a winning organization and winning football, teams what 1562 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,680 Speaker 11: you learn is that you never let your foot off 1563 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,400 Speaker 11: the gas, pedal and that you're always applying, yourself that 1564 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 11: you're always in the mindset of we have to exert 1565 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 11: ourselves because that's where championships are won and their law 1566 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 11: in the process of not going out. There so over 1567 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 11: TIME i just realized, that, hey this is how you 1568 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,479 Speaker 11: win football. Games this is how you win any team. 1569 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,759 Speaker 11: Sport you have to work hard than the other guys 1570 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 11: in the competition and apply yourself in training camps opportunity 1571 01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,000 Speaker 11: to do that because it's a foundation for the entirety 1572 01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 11: of the. 1573 01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:20,719 Speaker 2: Season, yeah it, is AND i think for this team 1574 01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,200 Speaker 2: especially you mentioned you know last year and kind of 1575 01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 2: the way all of that, went and guys weren't all 1576 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,040 Speaker 2: the way there right away the way they needed to 1577 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,960 Speaker 2: be it does feel like if we're going to have 1578 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,160 Speaker 2: success this, Year, girod there is going to be a 1579 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,760 Speaker 2: brand of ball that we have to play that is 1580 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 2: defensively physical and punch you in the mouth and turning 1581 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:38,880 Speaker 2: the ball. Over and they're gonna have to be the 1582 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:43,839 Speaker 2: opposite of that offensively because we don't have playmakers. Everywhere 1583 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 2: SO i think this is a team that's going to 1584 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 2: have to be very much a punch you in the mouth. 1585 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,479 Speaker 2: Team can you do that without being a punch your 1586 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,160 Speaker 2: mouth team in practice and training? 1587 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,880 Speaker 11: Camp, no it's. Impossible how are you going to execute 1588 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 11: something in the course of a football game if you're 1589 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,679 Speaker 11: not operation with that mindset during the course. 1590 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 4: Of the week. 1591 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,040 Speaker 11: Practice that's where it's all. Built you're you're right on 1592 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 11: point with what you have to. THINK i, mean we're 1593 01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,439 Speaker 11: gonna see a situation there's nothing wrong with, it Because 1594 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 11: i'm gonna tell YOU i literally won A Super bowl 1595 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 11: with that approach of field, position trench warfare style of 1596 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,360 Speaker 11: football and it still works in this day and. Age 1597 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,519 Speaker 11: did we not return of the running game beat pre 1598 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,200 Speaker 11: eminent last year of the football, World so, again don't beat. 1599 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,880 Speaker 11: Yourself and how many times last year did we watch 1600 01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,800 Speaker 11: games and say we beat. OURSELVES i could tell you 1601 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 11: at least six or seven l's that took place last 1602 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 11: year simply a mistakes made more on our part than 1603 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,040 Speaker 11: what the other team was. Doing so that right there 1604 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 11: is just a distant brand of practice in which guys 1605 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,559 Speaker 11: aren't making mistakes and you're seeing that during. 1606 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:43,880 Speaker 2: The course of the. 1607 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,120 Speaker 11: Week couple with the idea, that, yes it's gonna be, 1608 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,919 Speaker 11: grueling we're going to out tough. You and the last 1609 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:55,120 Speaker 11: TIME i, checked you can't out tough dudes by having cupcake. 1610 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 11: Practices it don't work that. 1611 01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:01,680 Speaker 2: Way, no it. Doesn't it. Doesn't obviously all of our 1612 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,640 Speaker 2: attention by the time we get to the open practice On, 1613 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,280 Speaker 2: friday and really over the next several weeks and months of, 1614 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:11,240 Speaker 2: summer here is the quarterback competition and what does that 1615 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 2: look like as a? PLAYER i obviously you didn't have 1616 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,559 Speaker 2: to deal with this In New, england but were there 1617 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 2: Other were there places where you were in the middle 1618 01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,120 Speaker 2: of a quarterback competition in your? Career? 1619 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,200 Speaker 11: Oh, YEAH i experienced it In New orleans and for 1620 01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,920 Speaker 11: about a week between The Super bowl and THE Afc, 1621 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:32,200 Speaker 11: championship there was a mini controversy regarding a quarterback, competition 1622 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,880 Speaker 11: whether or Not Drew blesso Or Tom brady was still 1623 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 11: going to. Play So i've been down that path, before 1624 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,960 Speaker 11: and at some point this is WHAT i do. Know 1625 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,280 Speaker 11: someone has to be defined as a, starter someone has 1626 01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 11: to be the focal point of the. Offense you don't 1627 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,720 Speaker 11: want that type of uncertainty because when you have that 1628 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,639 Speaker 11: type of, uncertainty you can split into. Factions Oh i'm 1629 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 11: on Team, Flaco i'm On Team, Schedure i'm on Team, 1630 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,960 Speaker 11: Gabriel i'm on Team. Ticket all those teams can become, 1631 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,920 Speaker 11: possibility and you could divide your. Team in this case in, 1632 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,559 Speaker 11: quarters let alone has. Right so you don't want. That 1633 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,760 Speaker 11: at some, point, AGAIN i give. IT i give it 1634 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,639 Speaker 11: coming out of The carolina practice as when we really 1635 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 11: should know and want to know that who the guy 1636 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,479 Speaker 11: is and he's defined. Himself but here's the. Problem, well 1637 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 11: if that guy has too bad practices and games leading 1638 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,320 Speaker 11: up to, that then that puts it all right back 1639 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:23,479 Speaker 11: in the. 1640 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:27,519 Speaker 2: Mix, Agan, well the REASON i asked this is one 1641 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,040 Speaker 2: of the AND i deal with this far more in 1642 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,680 Speaker 2: college THAN i do in THE. Nfl BUT i deal 1643 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,080 Speaker 2: with it in. College it feels like every year AT 1644 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,200 Speaker 2: o highest state WHEN i when they have these, conversations 1645 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,360 Speaker 2: and one of the things you hear when you talk to, 1646 01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,000 Speaker 2: coaches one of the most common things you hear is 1647 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,840 Speaker 2: you can't fool the. Room and at that, position the 1648 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,640 Speaker 2: room will tell you who the starter is by the 1649 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 2: way they, play by the way they, practice by their body, 1650 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 2: language and when you try to fool the, room it's fool's. 1651 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 2: Gold it ends. Poorly so In New orleans when you 1652 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 2: were in one of those The New england, things totally 1653 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,599 Speaker 2: that's a wild. Situation In New, england we were there 1654 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,680 Speaker 2: on that First Super bowl. Team But orleans when they 1655 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:05,920 Speaker 2: had quarterback, competitions how did the coaches manage the room 1656 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,200 Speaker 2: telling them who it, was even if they maybe had 1657 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 2: a different view of what it, Was, well they didn't. 1658 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 11: Care they did a poor. Job they made it about 1659 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,120 Speaker 11: what they want to, do their, agenda and they didn't 1660 01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,040 Speaker 11: read the. Room it was, like bump the, Room we're 1661 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 11: gonna do what we want to. Do we drafted this, 1662 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 11: guy we want this guy to be the focal point 1663 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,479 Speaker 11: of our football, team and who cares if this other 1664 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 11: guy is clearly. Better so that was one of those 1665 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,759 Speaker 11: situations where it was, like, no we have an agenda 1666 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 11: and we're going to receive his agenda through and the 1667 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 11: end result was l's upon l's upon. 1668 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,720 Speaker 2: L's who were the who are the quarterbacks in The 1669 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:41,040 Speaker 2: New orleans? Situation, jarrotte if you can you just REMIND. 1670 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:48,679 Speaker 11: I want to Say Danny warfle was. INVOLVED i want to, say, 1671 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:55,599 Speaker 11: Oh Billy Joe cobert was. Involved, yeah and maybe Even 1672 01:19:55,880 --> 01:20:00,280 Speaker 11: hobert Or talverb was probably. Involved and ALL i still 1673 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,800 Speaker 11: want to, Say Jake dello may be, Involved. 1674 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,120 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah and in one of Those, yeah it's one 1675 01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 2: of those things where like and that's WHY i like 1676 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 2: and this is what we've been, Saying, LIKE i, know 1677 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:12,680 Speaker 2: we've had a lot of fun here with like the 1678 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 2: quarterback rep counter in mini camp and all of those. 1679 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,320 Speaker 2: Things but these reps that are going to start here 1680 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,439 Speaker 2: On wednesday when they have their first training camp practice 1681 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,840 Speaker 2: and that we'll get a real view of them On. 1682 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 2: Friday every single rep is. Critical the quality of the 1683 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 2: rep is. Critical who you're repping against, matters what you're repping. 1684 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 2: Matters like you're in a situation here where like it's 1685 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,599 Speaker 2: impossible to get four guys. Ready it just is there's 1686 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,880 Speaker 2: not enough. Time you had two a. Days that doesn't exist. 1687 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,880 Speaker 2: Anymore it's. Over you got an hour more in twenty, 1688 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 2: minutes and then it. Wasn't so like they've got to 1689 01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,080 Speaker 2: be very efficient with their decisions here and how they 1690 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,280 Speaker 2: give people. Reps the idea that you can have a 1691 01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,599 Speaker 2: four person quarterback competition in THE, NFL i just don't 1692 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,320 Speaker 2: know how you possibly. Could it's truly wide, open. 1693 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:05,519 Speaker 11: Right, right because, again at some point those reps are 1694 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 11: gonna get two, pressures and you just, skin how can 1695 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,599 Speaker 11: a guy who's if you're going to get the, quarterback 1696 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,479 Speaker 11: who's seen majority of, reps who's gonna be better prepared 1697 01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,360 Speaker 11: to win a football? Game it just comes down to the, 1698 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 11: map Right but, also just to tell you how messed 1699 01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,599 Speaker 11: up it was In New, ORLEANS i have probably two 1700 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,040 Speaker 11: or three of these quarterback competitions BECAUSE i forgot About Heath. 1701 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,599 Speaker 11: SHOOLER i forgot about, gosh what Was cherry's? Man he played. 1702 01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 7: Here i've got your whole list, here. Guys oh he's got. 1703 01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:32,800 Speaker 2: It gives got? It go, ahead give? 1704 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,760 Speaker 7: It were you there in ninety six or ninety, seven 1705 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 7: your first year ninety, Six Jim everett And Doug. Nussmeyer, 1706 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,000 Speaker 7: wow he his, kids the quarterback OF. 1707 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:46,720 Speaker 2: Lsu, yeah his. 1708 01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:51,559 Speaker 7: Kids the quarterback OF lsu ninety seven Was Heath, Shuler 1709 01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 7: Billy Joe, Hobert Danny, warful And doug Nuss. Meyer ninety 1710 01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:03,080 Speaker 7: eight Was Carrie. Collins, danny you Had Billy Joe tolliver 1711 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,880 Speaker 7: And Billy Joe. HOBERT i thought he was kidding them. 1712 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,720 Speaker 2: Both he had them. BOTH i was kidding you had them, 1713 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:09,439 Speaker 2: both had them. 1714 01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 7: Both and then he and then in ninety nine he 1715 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 7: Had Billy Joe, T Billy joe h And Jake. Delone 1716 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,600 Speaker 7: that's a lot of. Quarterback hold on just a. 1717 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,800 Speaker 2: Second that's the Most louisiana quarterback room in the history Of. 1718 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:27,679 Speaker 2: Louisiana you Had Billy Joe, Tolliver Billy Joe, hobert and 1719 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:34,120 Speaker 2: And Jake. Delane, yeah, yes, Yes like you go To 1720 01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:39,320 Speaker 2: commander's palace with that group and that's. Regulars that's. Unreal 1721 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:42,800 Speaker 2: that is Un. 1722 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:48,600 Speaker 11: Imagine the parallels or just so matter affected into the 1723 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,200 Speaker 11: spectrum from that situation To New, England. 1724 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,120 Speaker 2: Dude imagine the parallels In New orleans and this kind 1725 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,200 Speaker 2: of fits into where what we're trying to do now 1726 01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:02,800 Speaker 2: When New orleans lands, Breeze, yeah they're. Lost, yeah it's 1727 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,040 Speaker 2: an organization that's lost in the wilderness and then they 1728 01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 2: land breeze and it's it's never the. Same now you 1729 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,160 Speaker 2: don't have to worry about it for a, decade fifteen, 1730 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,120 Speaker 2: years you have to worry about, it Right and they 1731 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 2: were you just you just named like twelve guys in four, Years. Gibbie, 1732 01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:27,840 Speaker 2: YEAH i mean that's wild. 1733 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:29,599 Speaker 11: That's. 1734 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:30,760 Speaker 7: Crazy we have all of. 1735 01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:31,680 Speaker 11: That. Absolutely. 1736 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah SO i guess when you when you're out, here 1737 01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,200 Speaker 2: and you'll be out here On, Friday i'm sure where 1738 01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,840 Speaker 2: what are you looking for with those four? 1739 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:45,679 Speaker 11: Quarterbacks but WHEN i saw In OTA's in mini, Camp 1740 01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,639 Speaker 11: i'm one looking at The, okay if she is still 1741 01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,880 Speaker 11: throwing at seventy percent clips and he's doing that still 1742 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,760 Speaker 11: with pads, on at some point he's gonna have to 1743 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,280 Speaker 11: get some. Rests with the, One i'll be looking a 1744 01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,439 Speaker 11: see him at that. Happened and then as far as 1745 01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,880 Speaker 11: the other guys, Concerned i'm looking At Joe flacko to, See, 1746 01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,240 Speaker 11: okay he just kind of in the. Background we're going 1747 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,760 Speaker 11: to get more reps and. Opportunities and With gabriel And, 1748 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,120 Speaker 11: pickett all, right did you make a jump over the 1749 01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:15,240 Speaker 11: course of being off as far as the understanding of 1750 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,080 Speaker 11: the playbook and, execution because in my mind right, now 1751 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,599 Speaker 11: they're the leaders in the clubhouse based, appointed free, agency, 1752 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,360 Speaker 11: acquisition and draft. Position so those GUYS i think have 1753 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,800 Speaker 11: the best chance to solidify. Themselves what's gonna come down 1754 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 11: to making plays because as you alluded to, earlier it 1755 01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,680 Speaker 11: is about simply put making plays and putting guys in 1756 01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,160 Speaker 11: position to. Succeed because you're not doing, that guys aren't 1757 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,320 Speaker 11: gonna follow. 1758 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,760 Speaker 2: You all, right let's go to the other side of the. Ball, 1759 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,960 Speaker 2: Defensively swessinger is going to have to be in a big. Role, 1760 01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,439 Speaker 2: obviously he was drafted the top of the second. Round 1761 01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,240 Speaker 2: he's gonna have to be a dude right. Away he 1762 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,040 Speaker 2: was great in many camp no, pads but look great 1763 01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,720 Speaker 2: especially With jokay. Out what we'll let you know in 1764 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,800 Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks from you were a second round. 1765 01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,680 Speaker 2: Pick you know what that's, like and you know that 1766 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,200 Speaker 2: there's a lot expected of. You what do you want 1767 01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 2: to see from him to lead you to believe that 1768 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:08,760 Speaker 2: he's going to be just? 1769 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 11: FINE i want to and it is the funny. Thing 1770 01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 11: so back to, day we had what was called goal line. 1771 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,960 Speaker 11: Drill we don't have that, anymore, well we don't have 1772 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:23,360 Speaker 11: run drill, anymore so far as seeing level of, physicality 1773 01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 11: won't be able to really assess that to the actually 1774 01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:25,680 Speaker 11: games take. 1775 01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,000 Speaker 9: Place BUT i do. 1776 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 11: Want to see for him just really being in the 1777 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,519 Speaker 11: right place in the right, time and he was doing 1778 01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,600 Speaker 11: that during mini, camps SO i think he's going his 1779 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,880 Speaker 11: way with that and for a guy like him with his. 1780 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,960 Speaker 11: Story but the last thing you worry, About Tenna shineway from. 1781 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 11: Contact he is what you call a go, getter And 1782 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,599 Speaker 11: i'm gonna make the assumption that he's gonna be all 1783 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,639 Speaker 11: over the, place flying. Around so really you just want 1784 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,080 Speaker 11: to see a continuation of. That you have a great opportunity, 1785 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,800 Speaker 11: here take full advantage of it because obviously we're trying 1786 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,439 Speaker 11: to replace right now temporarily a star that J okay 1787 01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:55,479 Speaker 11: was certainly on his way to. 1788 01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,559 Speaker 4: Being, yes he. 1789 01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,800 Speaker 2: Was so that's the second round running. Back you AND 1790 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,559 Speaker 2: i have talked all this, time And nathan talked kind 1791 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:06,080 Speaker 2: of all summer about the first round pick fourth, Overall Mason. 1792 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:07,880 Speaker 2: Graham people, say what what are you going to tell 1793 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,479 Speaker 2: us About Mason. Graham i'm, like, look, dude he was 1794 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,320 Speaker 2: at mini, camp there was no. Pads he's a. Dtackle 1795 01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,040 Speaker 2: there's not much to, See like it's hard to. See 1796 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:19,280 Speaker 2: so when they do, right like what AM i walking? For? 1797 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,240 Speaker 2: Man like he's a d, tackle there's not. Much so 1798 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,320 Speaker 2: when the pads do go, On AND i, mean this 1799 01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,200 Speaker 2: is the guy who wrecked The Ohio State michigan, game 1800 01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:29,280 Speaker 2: like wrecked it right? 1801 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:30,759 Speaker 11: Right what what. 1802 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,559 Speaker 2: Do you want to see out of him to lead 1803 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,280 Speaker 2: you to believe that that was the right way to 1804 01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:35,559 Speaker 2: go at? 1805 01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:35,760 Speaker 5: Four? 1806 01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,960 Speaker 11: Overall you said it right, there the same dynamic where 1807 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,479 Speaker 11: you cannot block. Them and we've seen situations with pads 1808 01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,000 Speaker 11: on with the offensive lineman versus the defensive line where 1809 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,559 Speaker 11: they sin they couldn't block a. GUY i think About 1810 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,680 Speaker 11: Mike Hall. Junior there were moments last year remember when 1811 01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,599 Speaker 11: he was unblockbles and then Obviously miles pretty much brings 1812 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 11: out to the table when he has on as. Well 1813 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,000 Speaker 11: so you really want to see a situation where posted is, 1814 01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,839 Speaker 11: like you know, WHAT i need some double team healthier 1815 01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:04,439 Speaker 11: on these. Guards and if you're seeing that when one's versus, 1816 01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,759 Speaker 11: one we're in a great, situation especially when we scrimmage 1817 01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:12,320 Speaker 11: Against carolina and The eagles and with they're in particular 1818 01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,320 Speaker 11: eagles off of the, line and he's still putting that 1819 01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,439 Speaker 11: same type of work out. There we have struck. Gold 1820 01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:19,640 Speaker 11: if that's, occurring. 1821 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,040 Speaker 2: Let me ask you, this this is a season in. 1822 01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,599 Speaker 2: Transition you're trying to get younger on the. Roster you're 1823 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 2: going to add a lot more picks next year. Too 1824 01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,719 Speaker 2: when you think of guys Like denzel And miles And Joel, 1825 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,760 Speaker 2: teller those guys that have been around a long, time 1826 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,559 Speaker 2: that have been in the organization from a long, time 1827 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,840 Speaker 2: what do you what do we need to see from 1828 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,120 Speaker 2: them leadership wise over the course of the next three 1829 01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:42,479 Speaker 2: or four. 1830 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,800 Speaker 9: Weeks they have to set the simple you keep on 1831 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:50,040 Speaker 9: hearing me if you list alone of talk about, foundation, 1832 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,400 Speaker 9: foundation foundation and establishing. 1833 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,280 Speaker 11: How we're going to play football in a tough. Mindset 1834 01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,320 Speaker 11: it starts with those. Guys they're the senior members of their, 1835 01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 11: team and they're the highest paid the, teams and they 1836 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:05,479 Speaker 11: their most visible members of the. Team so what does that? 1837 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,720 Speaker 11: Mean that means guys are looking at, them especially young, 1838 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,920 Speaker 11: guys and whatever they've. Seen are they seeing guys paying 1839 01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,000 Speaker 11: the price working, there you know what's? Off or do 1840 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,840 Speaker 11: they see guys just going through the motion trying to 1841 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,240 Speaker 11: get through training. Camp because if this is just guys 1842 01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,479 Speaker 11: trying to get through training, camp then nothing's. Changed but 1843 01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,920 Speaker 11: if it's guys who are like committed to, excellence if 1844 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,920 Speaker 11: it's guys that are busting and you know what and 1845 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,960 Speaker 11: very demonstrative verbally and physically of how they need to 1846 01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,679 Speaker 11: play at a very physical, level then we're in a great. 1847 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,960 Speaker 11: Space i'm here to tell you. Both you can win 1848 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,920 Speaker 11: eight or nine football games in THE. Nfl it's just 1849 01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,960 Speaker 11: After pittsburgh too is by not making mistakes and being 1850 01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:41,479 Speaker 11: more physical than the other. Teams you. 1851 01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,680 Speaker 2: Can't you really, can and you could be in the 1852 01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,960 Speaker 2: mix in a lot of. Ways so much more to. 1853 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 2: Come you listen To Cleveland Browns daily were presented by 1854 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,080 Speaker 2: bally Bad Official sports are your partner of Your Cleveland 1855 01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,120 Speaker 2: browns on eight to FIFTY esp And Cleveland. 1856 01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:02,840 Speaker 1: Cleveland brownsdale presented By Bally bett an official sports betting 1857 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,320 Speaker 1: partner Of Your Cleveland browns on eight p FIFTY esp And. 1858 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:20,800 Speaker 2: CLEVELAND i SHOULD i mistaken not even say goodbye To. 1859 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,800 Speaker 2: GERARD i was thinking he was with us for the 1860 01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,760 Speaker 2: whole thirty, minutes and so Good gerard's Great and the 1861 01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,040 Speaker 2: next level will be coming up next here. Momentarily, so, 1862 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,000 Speaker 2: oh there he. Is you, look that was. Quick good 1863 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,960 Speaker 2: to see, you good to see. It looking. Good get yourself. 1864 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,880 Speaker 2: Plugged you're almost. There you're right, there right, there there he. 1865 01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,479 Speaker 2: Is there's a kid. Back just lean. In we're, back, 1866 01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:43,640 Speaker 2: baby he's back and better than. 1867 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:44,000 Speaker 7: Ever we're. 1868 01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:47,960 Speaker 2: Back there he. Is we got a live camera zoo 1869 01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,200 Speaker 2: for the listen for the last thirty. Seconds, hey there 1870 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:50,679 Speaker 2: is looks. 1871 01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:51,320 Speaker 4: Great thanks you very. 1872 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:52,920 Speaker 7: Much good, job good, job. 1873 01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:56,200 Speaker 2: Good good jobh there you. Go, yeah, yes anything exciting. Happened, 1874 01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,040 Speaker 2: oh we did a little little training camp preview With. 1875 01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,360 Speaker 2: Gerard various things that he was looking. About, actually the 1876 01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,920 Speaker 2: most entertaining thing is listen to this quarterback room that 1877 01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:10,160 Speaker 2: he had In New. Orleans Billy Joe, Tolliver Billy Joe, 1878 01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:16,559 Speaker 2: HOBERT i, believe, okay And jake Delom is that the 1879 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:20,600 Speaker 2: Most louisiana quarterback room in the history. 1880 01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,720 Speaker 3: Those, Names but, no because there's one more that would 1881 01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,040 Speaker 3: have needed to be in that room which would have 1882 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:26,960 Speaker 3: been possible. 1883 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,160 Speaker 2: With The, saints which would have Been Bobby. A Bobby 1884 01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:34,160 Speaker 2: Bobby a probably retired at that point ninety, four ninety 1885 01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,479 Speaker 2: five years in the. Mix this has been like ninety eight. Nine, Yeah, Hobert, 1886 01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 2: Tolliver delom and coming off the heels Of. Abert do 1887 01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:48,920 Speaker 2: you Remember delome's nickname From, burman, UH i want to go. 1888 01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:53,200 Speaker 2: Home wanted to make me want a? Delam he was. 1889 01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,120 Speaker 2: Great that was a good. One so. Good, yeah that 1890 01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,360 Speaker 2: is that is pretty. Crazy. 1891 01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah was he a Raging? Cajun wasn't The loma range In? 1892 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:02,200 Speaker 3: CAJUN i think he feels like he should. 1893 01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:03,360 Speaker 2: Be, YEAH i feel like he was. 1894 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:05,599 Speaker 3: Good, hey Bear by The way is still on their, 1895 01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,960 Speaker 3: broadcast and so we've Gotten i've gotten to talk to 1896 01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:09,599 Speaker 3: and do. 1897 01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:13,679 Speaker 2: Interviews them pre game for their network and stuff out 1898 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,599 Speaker 2: Of Central. Casting, yeah it's. Unbelievable you almost need an. 1899 01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:24,439 Speaker 2: Interpreter he's. UNBELIEVABLE i think any color next level is. 1900 01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,960 Speaker 2: Next we're back. Tomorrow cleveland runs daily eight fifty esp And. 1901 01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:31,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland you've been listening To Cleveland Browns, daily a production 1902 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:34,560 Speaker 1: of The Cleveland browns and eight FIFTY Espn cleveland