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Speaker 2: The OKC Thunder took down the Golden State Warriors Minor

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Speaker 3: Shay Gilgess Alexander was sensational.

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Speaker 2: Again thirty five points nine rebounds, five assists a block. Wow,

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Speaker 2: I mentioned, Oka See, took down the Golden State Warriors

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Speaker 3: But I like this team. They're really good.

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Speaker 2: They're very young, all drafted players, with the exceptional lou Dort.

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Speaker 2: I know the Clippers are kicking themselves in the butt

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Speaker 2: I know they didn't have Golden State, didn't have Steph.

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Speaker 1: Step Yeah, I mean, listen, it was a good game.

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Speaker 5: I mean Sga is as you just said, as advertised,

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Speaker 5: he is just that his last out last five to

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Speaker 1: He's ever thirty goddamn thirty points a game.

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Speaker 5: I think if the Warriors had a second score out there,

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Speaker 5: It's always a dogfight anytime the goddamn Thunder and Warriors meet.

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Speaker 2: I'm really not surprised. Team's gonna play harder. And the

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Speaker 3: Draymond was there. Uh he made some you know, he

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Speaker 2: He didn't shoot the three ball well, but I liked

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Speaker 3: He missed a couple of them. He's like, nah, I.

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Speaker 2: Can't shoot this, but he's still he's still shooting even

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Speaker 2: without hesitation. Although he was two of eight tonight, they

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Speaker 2: He comes off the bench lighting it up. He had seventeen.

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Speaker 2: But this game was about SGA. They don't really have anybody.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggers tried his hand. Kaminga tried his hand for

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Speaker 2: I mean, look what you want to do. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the guy's an All Star for a reason. He was

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Speaker 3: Nothing?

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Speaker 5: Not fa but the fact that that's the funny thing

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Speaker 1: A ball here, give me, give you what you want,

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Speaker 5: So even even when you talk about neutralizing, there's really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta make it as difficult as you possibly can.

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Speaker 2: And that's what and that's what all the greats have

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Speaker 2: mark of a great player. But I think Shay is

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Speaker 2: probably only like twenty five, twenty four to twenty five

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Speaker 2: he ain't even close to that. Yeah, even close to that.

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Speaker 2: This team can bill. They got a bunch of young,

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Speaker 2: young players that's only going to get better that together.

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Speaker 2: I think they sincerely genuinely like each other because a

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Speaker 2: so they have a lot of the same They probably

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Speaker 3: Oh Joe, you know, they like the scream, they play

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Speaker 3: video game or what what whatever? Hell five they got thirty.

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Speaker 2: no idea what those guys that age do. Obviously, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you look at Houston, you look at those young guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying Stepford. Like I said, Stephe's out. Have been

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Speaker 2: a very interesting game had he played. But okay, see,

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Speaker 2: congratulations you win the game. I think they played the

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Speaker 2: If the Lakers beat them, the Lakers will beat.

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Speaker 3: Three and one.

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Speaker 2: But the problem that they have they lost by so many.

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Speaker 1: Damn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so's.

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Speaker 2: It's not looking it's not looking good for the Lakers

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Speaker 3: So hey, we'll see how that. We'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers beat the Spurs one nineteen to one on one.

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Speaker 2: Lebron James had a triple double, his sixth triple double

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Speaker 2: The Lakers against team with winning records of four and six.

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Speaker 2: and one. Look, finally, they played a third quarter, O joe.

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Speaker 2: If you go back and look at the Lakers, look

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Speaker 2: last night. Guys driving over, ain't nobody stopping, nobody, everybody

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Speaker 2: pointing no, you get your ass over there and stopping stop,

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Speaker 2: no bro, that's you cause every time I go get him,

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Speaker 2: But I like the way they played tonight. They got

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Speaker 2: Anthony Davis nineteen quiet night. He didn't tech fourteen shots,

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Speaker 2: but he had nineteen points, fourteen rebound, seven assents on

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Speaker 3: The best move of the night.

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Speaker 2: They reinserted Dun't Connect into the starting lineup and they

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Speaker 2: that means Cam Reddish came up the bench because they had,

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable because he could place the floor.

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Speaker 2: You got seventeen from d Low and you got twelve

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, you know you know the the Lakers eighty.

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Speaker 5: Let me just say with Ady and Lebron, who was

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Speaker 1: I mean, this was really good.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if JJ did this purposely with the lineup,

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Speaker 1: They were eight of.

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Speaker 5: The the shoulder the offensive load with the slow star

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Speaker 2: Well eighty didn't have that many shots normally. Ad was

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Speaker 2: shooting like he's been shooting very well. He's shooting fifty

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Speaker 2: had another He didn't shoot the ball well tonight. He

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Speaker 2: telling That's telling me he wasn't as aggressive as he

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Speaker 2: needed to be. I liked the Lakers. They were ten

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Speaker 2: for ten from the free throw line. Now I had

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Speaker 2: the other night. They weren't lost to Orlando. But then

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Speaker 3: But I like this. I liked the ballance scoring O choe.

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Speaker 2: They shot fifty three percent from the floor, They shot

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Speaker 3: H They're still turning.

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Speaker 2: The ball over a little bit too much, especially Lebron

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Speaker 2: Lebron right now, it's averaging probably about five turnals game.

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Speaker 5: So you think JJ is gonna stick with this lineup,

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Speaker 5: this lineup from out with them, I mean where they

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Speaker 2: They got off to it. They got off to a

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Speaker 3: He's the best shooter.

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Speaker 2: He's a guy that can take the three, and when

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Speaker 2: streaky three point shooters. Alsto reasons not a great three

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Speaker 3: But and you know guys like that.

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Speaker 2: They shoot the three, but you have to put so

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Speaker 2: much emphasis on it because everybody's shooting it. That's why

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Speaker 2: you see the Lakers. The Laker got up thirty four

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Speaker 2: hopefully we can make fourteen.

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Speaker 3: But I thought they did a great job.

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Speaker 2: Wimby connect had twenty points, he had eight rebounds, he

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Speaker 2: he just doesn't settle. If you run him up the

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Speaker 2: way at the rim. He got nice ups. Lebron's doing

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Speaker 2: Wimby is the guy, but he didn't. He was nine

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Speaker 2: the three. I think sometimes, Bro, it's seven four and

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Speaker 2: Stop shooting all him threes just because you can shoot them,

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Speaker 2: just because you can make them. I don't think he

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Speaker 2: he's gonna have to. He's gonna have to put on

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Speaker 2: some weight. All that damn cooking, all the Mexican food

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Speaker 3: Get you in a couple of these restaurants and.

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Speaker 2: Get some biscuits and some tacos and burritos and some

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Speaker 3: But nine or twenty oh, some churls they're asking they

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Speaker 2: Look, I think he's gonna be really good. I mean,

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Speaker 2: But sometimes, bro, he shot zero at seven four and

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Speaker 1: You know you gotta you gotta understand too, what he's

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Speaker 5: Uh, you know, you might want to play You might

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Speaker 1: The house on the bench. Hey, get your ad down

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Speaker 1: if you're missing your shots, will they tell a shooter

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I here ain't no shooter. You don't think so, no, no,

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Speaker 5: He's not that that that that that maular the three.

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Speaker 2: So you got to have a package. You got to

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Speaker 2: to be great. He can rebound the basketball, he can

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna make you guys hesitant. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: That's what I just that's just me personally, O Joe.

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Speaker 2: I just think nine of twenty two or nine and

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Speaker 3: Too much time outside. That's what that tells me.

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Speaker 2: But Lebron, like I said, Lebron was Lebron a triple double,

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Speaker 3: He needed the bounce back because he didn't play. He

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Speaker 2: as the NBA dynasty.

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Speaker 3: There have been three dynasties in my mind, Boston in

434
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Speaker 3: the sixties showtime Lakers Michael six and eight years was

435
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Speaker 3: dynastic without a doubt. I don't know if there's one now.

436
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Speaker 3: I mean, you don't count four and six years of

437
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Speaker 3: the dynasty.

438
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Speaker 5: I mean I would think so, I mean so maybe maybe,

439
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 5: I mean, it depends on what pat Riley's criteria is.

440
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Speaker 1: Maybe his criteria is different than everybody else's.

441
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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't get ojo in the sixties when

442
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: the Celtics won, they had eighteens. That eighteens right now,

443
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 2: and from the beginning they had seven Hall of Famers

444
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Speaker 2: at one point in time, level of the twelve thirteen

445
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 2: players were Hall of Famers. So I would like.

446
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Speaker 3: To think that you should when when you know they

447
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 3: won eight in.

448
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: A row, right damn?

449
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Speaker 3: But I mean, how how is that not? I mean,

450
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 3: the Lakers won five and nine years. Four and six

451
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 3: years not a dynasty.

452
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Speaker 2: So if the Lakers, so, if Golden State went another,

453
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: that means they've won five and nine years. So I'm

454
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Speaker 2: just I'm confused. Yeah, I mean we got a Okhoe. Yeah,

455
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: I'm an old head too oho. You know, look, I

456
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: loved I love the era that I played it. I'm protected,

457
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 2: but I also give credit where credits due. That's okay

458
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 2: to give these new teams credit. That doesn't diminish what

459
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: you did in the eighties. That doesn't diminish the Celtics

460
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: in the sixties. That doesn't diminish Mike, they did that.

461
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: But what so if somebody don't win six, they can't

462
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Speaker 2: be a So somebody don't win six.

463
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Speaker 3: In that year, man, there ain't no dynasty.

464
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Speaker 5: Come on, bro, yeah, I mean it doesn't make any sense. Obviously,

465
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Speaker 5: Obviously being an old head and having a difference in

466
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Speaker 5: opinion when it comes to the criteria on what he

467
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Speaker 5: feels the dynasty is, there's a there's a complete disconnect

468
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 5: the Celtic player from from today's game as opposed to

469
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 5: the game back in the day.

470
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. So if the Celtics say,

471
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Speaker 2: if you don't win eight in a row, you're not

472
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Speaker 2: a dynasty.

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Speaker 1: And ship and that ain't happening. That's that's not happening.

474
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Speaker 5: To be able to keep a team's core players together

475
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 5: long enough to even win eight is damn the impossible.

476
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Speaker 1: And again, if the game of basketball is different today anyway,

477
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Speaker 1: it's complete any different, So the chance of doing that

478
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: it's also impossible, And I might be wrong, and if

479
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, please correct me. The game of basketball was

480
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: a little different. I don't want to say easier. I'm

481
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: not saying a little easier, but as opposed to the

482
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Speaker 1: players today, and how how much more skilled and more

483
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: athletic they are to win back to back like they

484
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: were as opposed to how they were doing back then.

485
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Speaker 2: You didn't have Simmits that could shoot the ball like

486
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: these guys can shoot the ball now. And that's okay.

487
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: There were no sixteen guys like Anthony Davis. There was

488
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: no guy like Joel Embiid. There's no guy like nicolea Jokic,

489
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Speaker 2: And that's okay. That's not to diminish those guys. Those

490
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: guys were great. But the guys are skilled.

491
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Speaker 3: There are more guys that are able to do more

492
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Speaker 3: things than they were back then. And don't give me

493
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Speaker 3: that way. They didn't do it, but if they could,

494
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 3: they would have done it. They would have done it.

495
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Speaker 3: That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what when Jordan he realized, like, you know what,

497
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: I'm flying through the air, but if I want to

498
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 2: expand my game, I gotta get this mid range.

499
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Speaker 3: So he worked on that.

500
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: If guys could really shoot the three, then worked on

501
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: it and they got good at it like these guys have.

502
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not baring many bigs that can't shoot

503
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 2: the three ball in today's game.

504
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 3: On Joe, it's almost it's almost a pre raven set.

505
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: You've got to look at all your bigs, look at

506
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Speaker 2: all your great big I'm talking about the saying like

507
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Speaker 2: Yo Kitchen em Bead, Anthony Davis, they.

508
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Speaker 3: Can shoot it.

509
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, even Kevin Rants not a five, but Kevin Rand

510
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: sixteen and a half, six eleven.

511
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Speaker 3: He can shoot it. It's just I just I just

512
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Speaker 3: don't like the fact that that we we don't want

513
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Speaker 3: to give.

514
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Speaker 2: These guys credit. Yes, the league is different. Y'all didn't

515
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: want to look at the attendance with all they did

516
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: was fight. Look at the attendants in the nineties with

517
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: all them hard ass fouls. Nobody wanted that. People like

518
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: scoring as much as y'all could plain. That's what y'all

519
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: want to see. Y'all ain't bet nobody. I ain't never

520
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: seen nobody parlay where they said, hold this team under

521
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 2: ninety points or defense. No, y'all wont scoring. Y'all want touchdowns,

522
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: you want home runs, you want threes and then when

523
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 2: the league gives it to you, artist, it is what

524
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: it is.

525
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 3: I'm cool. Look, I understand the game is different.

526
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 2: I understand that they've legislated a lot of physicality out

527
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: of the game of basketball, out of the game of football.

528
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: I understand it, o yo. And we understand why.

529
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: In football, right with the lawsuits, the concussion, the guys

530
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: being leaving the game, and a lot of them being injured.

531
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Speaker 3: We get it.

532
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but isn't that what you want it? Who wants

533
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: to go to a game and see what they used

534
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: to see in the nineties. If in seventy three seventy

535
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: one the entire game that was the final score, right,

536
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: ain't nobody want to see that? Just like baseball? Oh,

537
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: a one nothing ball game? The purist man, I want

538
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: to see ten eleven to ten.

539
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: Let's see home runs.

540
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 3: Yes, I want to see the ball going over. I

541
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 3: want to see the ball flying over the wall. I

542
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 3: want to see but up and down. I Look, I

543
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: ain't saying I want to see the NBA All Star Game.

544
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: I don't want to see that bullgeye right right, But

545
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 2: I do want to I do want to see team

546
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: getting up and down. I want to see a game

547
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: that getting to the hundreds. But I disagree with pat Rodley.

548
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: Pat Riley also said that he could have won six

549
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: champions up the six championships if Lebron had stayed. Okay, yeah,

550
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: had you got it, I can agree. I could agree

551
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: with that Lebron had stayed. D Wade was there, but.

552
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: D Wade that started to break down d Way. D

553
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: Wade's a little older.

554
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: Remember, d Wade had bad needs coming into it, and

555
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: for him to get as many years as he did

556
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 2: it lets you know how well he had taken care

557
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: of his body. But at his age, you got to realize.

558
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: D Wade went to school three years, so he's already

559
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: three to four years older than Lebron. So when he

560
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: gets seeing at that at that juncture, d Wade came

561
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: in in two thousand and four, three oh three, Lebron

562
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: was he was oh three. So Lebron last year was

563
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: what twenty.

564
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: Thirteen, So think about that, that's thirteen, that's fourteen years.

565
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: So he got in, he's damn already about thirty six

566
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: thirty seven. Then then also at fourteen lost the first

567
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: and fourteen, so so that's already eleven years. So if

568
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 3: he's coming in.

569
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Speaker 6: He's coming into the NBA O Joe at twenty three,

570
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 6: twenty two, twenty three, so he at least twenty two,

571
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 6: at least twenty nine, So now he's already thirty three.

572
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: I still think they could have dead it though.

573
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 5: Uh hey, we got we got Lebron, you had d Wade.

574
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: What's what's a tall young bull name man? Oh Chris Bosh, Yeah,

575
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: Chris Boss.

576
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: You gotta remember O Joe. The next year, he got

577
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 3: those blood c Yeah.

578
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 5: I mean, just hypothetically speaking, if he didn't have the

579
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 5: issue with the blood clots as possible.

580
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: But what's the likelihood, because that's something that you can't

581
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 2: you can't factor in. He got the blood clots and

582
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: he really never played any more after that. I think

583
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: the way d Wade needs have started to get balky

584
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: on him. Uh Ray Allen was older. Uh yeah, he

585
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: could grow, but he had done. He had because we

586
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: got to remember when when Lebron left, Ray tired. I

587
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: didn't Ray retire, Ray retired, m h, So he was done.

588
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: I think Rio ended up didn't real end up tearing

589
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: his a c L. I mean, oh Joe. In order

590
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: to win multiple championships, a lot of things have to

591
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: go right, and that that on that that doesn't always happen.

592
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: And I get it because Pat Pat look Pat tried

593
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: to collect jewelry past the ring collector.

594
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: At this part of his career.

595
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: The only thing that mattered to him is Raid, and

596
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: he realized the likelihood of him every getting he loved

597
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler ain't Lebron and the likelihood of him ever

598
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: getting another one of those is not happening, right, And

599
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: he knows without that type of player, it's hard.

600
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: It's hard to win.

601
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: Unless you got guys like you got a Jaylen Brown,

602
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: you got a Jason Tatum that you broomed, that you

603
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: got together, and they're okay with each other, playing off

604
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: of each other. One doesn't get mad if somebody gets

605
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: more credit or more pub and you don't have the vickery.

606
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: That's why. That's why Kareem and Magic you got us

607
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: big and a little and Cap You've been here with

608
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: how you wanted.

609
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: Magic was always was already deferential to Kareem, Kobe and Shack,

610
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: but it toward apart and boom, prematurely it was gone.

611
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: You look at Clay, You look at Steph Clay like okay,

612
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: I'll be the second and third gradit shooter ever, I'm

613
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: cool with that. Right, they stay together, they went four,

614
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: Kyrie and Lebron, boom, whatever happens they start to butt

615
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: split it up.

616
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a lot. You got a lot of times.

617
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: Don't you gotta swallow your pride? You gotta. I started

618
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: watching The Dynasty today, the story about the Patriots.

619
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Speaker 3: Right, take a list, look at it.

620
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Speaker 1: It's good. Yeah, all right, let me say, letna check

621
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Speaker 1: that out.

622
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: Check that out. Yeah, it's very good. Stefan Maberry on

623
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 3: the Gold debate, how's Lebron better than Joe when he

624
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: is better than Kobe? I'm trying to figure that out.

625
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: Oh man, man, this is an ongoing debate.

626
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: It is, and you're not gonna settle it. You got

627
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: people in George's corner, you got people in Lebron. But

628
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: what I don't understand on your lips. But I'm gonna

629
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: let you go on this. This is what I don't understand.

630
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: If you support Lebron, you're getting paid. So how much

631
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: is Jordan and Kobe paying? Is supporters? Nobody will answer

632
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: that because if you say something, you on clutch payroll.

633
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: So when they say on Kobe, if Kobe'll stayed paying you?

634
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: Are you getting free shoes? Are you getting free gear

635
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: from Jordan? Is Jordan paying you? That's all I want

636
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: to know. If y'all can answer that, I'm cool right

637
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: where you are on that debate. If you say Jordan,

638
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: if you say Kobe, if you say Magic, if you

639
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: say Shot, you say Koreem, you say Lebron. More time

640
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: than not, people are already dug in. It's kind of

641
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: like the election. People had their mind made up. It

642
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: was gonna be President Trump. You not moving them off that, right?

643
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: You're not?

644
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, why do you waste your time? I saw Jordan,

645
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: I saw Lebron. I'm cool either way. I know who

646
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: I feel right and I'm good with it. I ain't

647
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: losing no sleep over it.

648
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 5: But man, it's it's very difficult when we talk about

649
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 5: the greats, the elite, the elite grace that are in

650
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 5: a class of their own, especially when it comes to football.

651
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 5: You know your T's, your Randy Mosses, you Jerry Rice's,

652
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 5: then you talk about your Lebron's, you goddamn Michael Jordan, Ja,

653
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 5: Kobe Bryant. I mean, these dudes are the cream, the

654
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 5: cream of the crop at their respective crafts. And you

655
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 5: have to nick pick and and and be and and

656
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 5: and take a fine tooth comb just to be able

657
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 5: to separate the two, you know, I mean actually the

658
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 5: three and in this case, and I think it all

659
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 5: comes down the preference.

660
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: I think all he does on huh.

661
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: Jordan had the prettiest game you've ever seen. You want

662
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: to see somebody hang in the air. He was the

663
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: first guy that we really saw jo that Connie Hawkins

664
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: could glide through the air, Doctor j could glide through

665
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: the air. But when we really got when basketball really

666
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: hit magic and Jordan's and then Jordan came along, that

667
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: guy elevated flying through the air with his tongue hanging out.

668
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, he different, He's different. It's gotta be

669
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: the shoes. But then he had all the commercials. He

670
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: had to the Haynes, and he had the Yeah Haines,

671
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: and he had the Air George, and he had Gatorade

672
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: and he had all he was He was it.

673
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

674
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: He made dark skin cool good again because the throw

675
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: here led the barge the cheek of the barge and

676
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: al be sure man brother could get no play right,

677
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: he could get he.

678
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: Could get nothing.

679
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: But but then you look, you look, you got you

680
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: got Kobe who comes along, young seventeen eighteen year old

681
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: who mimicked and idolized Jordan and took some of theriysms,

682
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: that same that mama mentality, that same killer instinct. When

683
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: it came to playing the game of basketball, well, he

684
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: give nobody no grace, no place.

685
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 5: He had that same killer instinct, you know, out there

686
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 5: on the court and the mannerisms, the movements, the style

687
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 5: of play, it was damn near the same, right and

688
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 5: then and then Lebron shows up.

689
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: And that's why I say it's three different almost three

690
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: different areas eras where they kind of kind of crossed

691
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: and messed a little bit. But and like I mean, dude,

692
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why we just enjoy all of them,

693
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, and not have the put him up against

694
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: each other when it comes up who the best of

695
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: what they do?

696
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, none of these guys had the expectations

697
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: that Lebron had. So Kobe got a chance just to

698
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: blend in ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight, they happened.

699
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: Kobe came off the bench. Lebron never came off the bench.

700
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: Lebron could have been start of the NBA in high

701
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: school the grade he was, Jordan hit the floor, Jordans running.

702
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: Jordan was second team All the NBA. He averaged twenty

703
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: eight points a game. He was sensational. But Jordan didn't

704
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: have the expectations because we hadn't seen a guy come out.

705
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: Kevin nur Ke, Kevin Garnett was the high first high

706
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: school player that had come out straight from high school

707
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: in a very long time. But even KG did not

708
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: have the expectations what Lebron hated and whatever you thought

709
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: Lebron might be. If you thought Lebron, Lebron has exceeded expectations.

710
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: Nobody thought he's a past first when people say, well,

711
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: look at how many times Jordan shot the ball at

712
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: least twenty two times a game in his career. Look

713
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: how many times Lebron shot to get ball twenty two

714
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: times a game in his career for a season like

715
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: twelve or thirteen to jordan fifteen season, he shot the

716
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: ball at least twenty two times. Right, so if you

717
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 2: extrapolate that, now here's Lebron. He's number one in points,

718
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 2: he's top five and assists. You're never gonna see that again.

719
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: You're never gonna see that again, right, So there's compelling

720
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: arguments that you can make for whoever you decide. But

721
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: that's STEFI Marlboro's opinion. He look, I don't think he's

722
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: very fond of Lebron. That's okay, that's okay. Like I said,

723
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: I look, everybody know, y'all just saw me or whatnot

724
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: selling about three hundred pairs of shoes. It damned the

725
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: two other video with Jordan's So y'all know what I

726
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: feel about Jordan, and I got a boatload of a

727
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: bunch of Kobe that I don't even know if I'm

728
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: gonna get rid of those. But it's just it's all.

729
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: It's a preference. But the question is if y'all, if

730
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: Kobe hadn't the body hadn't broken down, y'all think Kobe

731
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: would have stoped the twenty.

732
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 3: Years or he kept playing O Joe kept playing?

733
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: If Jordan's body hadn't broken down, do you think he

734
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 2: just stopped at fifteen season?

735
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: Or who he kept playing?

736
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: Kept playing?

737
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 3: Thank you.

738
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: Kept playing?

739
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: Y'a't get back and Lebron because Lebron took care of

740
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: himself and his body hadn't betrayed him yet. Kobe, Kobe

741
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: took care of himself, but he started having you know,

742
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: he had the ki Lees injury at that age, at

743
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: that at that junction of your career. Oh Joe, you

744
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: get one of those man. Yeah, by time, bro, But

745
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: he had tourists labrom his you know. It was just

746
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: the way, yeah, you know, because Kobe was going they

747
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: was going to the NBA Finals and they fight, they

748
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: have the long seasons, and his body just broke down.

749
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: Jordan gonna get his cigars, hen if Jeorde gonna get

750
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: on them sticks hard. Jordan had them one man a

751
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: thing be lasted two three days. He probably going through

752
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: three or four. But they but look, if you like Jordans,

753
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna fight you. If you like Kobe, I

754
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: ain't gonna fight you. If you like Lebron, welcome home.

755
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: But if you don't like Lebron, I don't dislike it. Right,

756
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: it's just the preference. After They always had a lot

757
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: to say this evening, though, Joe said he feels like

758
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: the team is growing the park that they can't talk

759
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: to each other anymore. It's everyone. He's not singling out

760
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: the nubies says, everyone has their own agendas right now

761
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: at we gotta look up everybody chair efing hype. We

762
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: get down and don't nobody say nothing. That's the definition

763
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: of front running. We're a team, including myself, we're all

764
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: front runners. Tonight it was some bulldeye for sure.

765
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: You know it.

766
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: All teams go through this, everybody go through this every

767
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 5: every every once in a while.

768
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: Unlet it's still early in the season.

769
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 5: If you're gonna have a time like this, the first

770
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 5: thing you got to do is, hell, you're the captain.

771
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're the captain, the one of the leaders

772
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: of the team. He call the goddamn team meeting call

773
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: of goddamn team meaning land listen, man, we ain't feeling.

774
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: We can't rock like this if not, if we're trying

775
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: to reach the end goal. Before the season started. We

776
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: know what the end goal is, but we can't be

777
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: operating like this, not this early. She y'all better get

778
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: it and fuck together.

779
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I agree.

780
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: It's just tough oo because now you have expectations. You

781
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: went to the Western Conference finals last year. But what

782
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: I don't get is that you went to the Western

783
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: Conference finals and you trade your second best player I

784
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: did with there's something that we don't know that he

785
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: and Cat. I thought he and Cat. When I sat

786
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 2: down with Cat, he had a great he talked about

787
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: they have a great relationship. You don't really know, Joe,

788
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: unless you're in that locker room. You really don't know.

789
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: But I have no reason to believe that Cad was lying. Right,

790
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: you like Julius, I don't know if he's as good

791
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: a fit as Cat right.

792
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Okay.

793
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: I don't like him with Cat. I don't like Jewlish

794
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: with Cat right like I like Cat with Ad. Okay,

795
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: that's what I meant to say.

796
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: I don't like Ad with Julius like I did add

797
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: with Cat. Kat. Okay, But yes, and you.

798
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: Got expectations now, and sometimes the hardest thing is to

799
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: overcome his expectations. You see, when you weren't doing anything,

800
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: you'll missed the playoffs and you want going very far.

801
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: Now you have expectations. People expect you to be great.

802
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: That's the hardest thing. That's what people don't understand about

803
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: greatness is that that once you reach that level, is

804
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: to stay there. We've seen a lot of guys go

805
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 2: to the Pro Bowl one year being all pro one year,

806
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: But can you do it the year after year, year

807
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: after year, game after game, month after month. That's what

808
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: that's what's so spectacular is that you have this. I

809
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: mean Tom Brady got there and he stayed there. Peyton

810
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: Manny got there and he stayed there. Mahomes since he's

811
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: been the starter, has been there. And you look at

812
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: the other grades. You look at the JJ Watt, you

813
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: look at the TJ Watt, and you look at these guys,

814
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: the Reggie wife, the Dion's, the Jerry's. Now, obviously, once

815
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: you start getting later, later, you're not gonna be what

816
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: you were. Oh Jo, you know, year five and here

817
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: you are your fourteen fifteen quarterbacks can but it gets

818
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: harder and harder for skilled position players. Like I said,

819
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: Jerry is an anominally Jared played twenty six. Jerry is

820
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: anominally Ojo. You're not gonna get You're not gonna find

821
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: another Jared Rice. A guy to have a fout, have

822
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: over twelve hundred yards at forty plus. That ain't happening.

823
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: At forty two. We had one hundred yard game.

824
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: O't yoe? Can you imagine?

825
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, he's the goat for a reason.

826
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: And The thing is, though, O Joe, is that you

827
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: get to the Western Conference finals with Cat and and

828
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: and you moved Cat.

829
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean listen that that that might have

830
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 5: been something internally and they it just never ever got out,

831
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 5: you know, they kept it under wraps. Kat maybe voice

832
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 5: his frustrations about being there, and they made it happen.

833
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: Look, Leon Rose used to be at CIA. Now he's

834
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: running here in Worldwide West.

835
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 3: They're running the next m h.

836
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: That was Cat's first agent, I think if I'm not

837
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: mistaken right, So obviously cats from.

838
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: The Jersey area. That's great.

839
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's he could have been They could have

840
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: traded him to a worse place. But and talking to him,

841
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: he wanted to build on what they had started. You know, like, okay,

842
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: I got here. We were bad at first, but now

843
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: we got you know, we got at We got a

844
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: superstar to pair alongside with me. We can go places,

845
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: you know, Mike Coley orchestrat and everything. You got, Rudy, Uh,

846
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: you got uh Daniels, you got some you got some

847
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: nice pieces. Oh, Joe nas Red coming off the bench,

848
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: I just did that. I'm surprised that they made that move,

849
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: considering how far they got the previous year.

850
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 5: So you don't you don't think, you don't think, you

851
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 5: don't think their chance of making the Western Final are

852
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 5: good having Julius No.

853
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: No, I don't. Uh.

854
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: Boockie Cousins believed that Zion Williamson was set up to

855
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: fail by being drafted to a city like New Orleans.

856
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought it was a bad decision. Let's

857
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: rewind all the way back when this guy's getting drafted.

858
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: We knew he's going to New Orleans. It was away

859
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: concern that was bad there in New Orleans of the

860
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: place that just gives help. That's a place that you

861
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: go to game tempiles, you go out there and drink,

862
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: have a good time. That's what the culture is in

863
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: New Orleans. So to put that kid in the situation

864
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: like they expect them thrive, that was the first mistake.

865
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: Come on.

866
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: The city had nothing to do with him playing one

867
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety games over five Oh Joe, Yeah, So

868
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm not spoke. So he is the best talent in

869
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: the draft. I'm not gonna draft him because of New Orleans.

870
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 2: It's one of the fastest cities in the USA, right,

871
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna draft it.

872
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: Because come back.

873
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we can't make no, we can't make

874
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: no excuses.

875
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: Now you know that's them.

876
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: Once you get drafted, you get your team of people

877
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: that understand, that have your best interests at hard and

878
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: knowing what it takes for you to compete at a

879
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: high level and live up to the expectations that you

880
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: had coming out of coming out of college. It's pretty simple.

881
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: It's not hard. It's not rocket science. Take the game

882
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: basketball series is like you've always taken it all your life.

883
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 5: Now that you've been afforded the opportunity to live out

884
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 5: your childhood dream, it's not that difficult.

885
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of players do it, especially if

886
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: you want to be great at what you do. You

887
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: want to be great that your he doesn't.

888
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 3: Want to be great.

889
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: You want to play. You want to play very, very

890
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: long and not get your money and then fold.

891
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 3: He doesn't.

892
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: Zion had the problem what I told my kids, I

893
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: can't want something more than you want it for yourself.

894
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: Everybody wants Zion to get in shape except Zion. Everybody

895
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: wants Zion to have discipline except Zion. So how can

896
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: I want something How can the team want something more?

897
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: For him than he wants it for himself, right, that's

898
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: why they put it in contract. Look how it got

899
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 2: it in his contract that he have to hit weight

900
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 2: clauses because they know him.

901
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: That's not the team fault. That ain't.

902
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: That ain't that ain't got nothing to do with New Orleans.

903
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: That's Zion didn't know his No discipline ass, that's all

904
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: that comes down to.

905
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: Ojo.

906
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: Discipline requires you to do your very best when no

907
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: one else is watching, doing what you want need to

908
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: do instead of what you want to do. I know,

909
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: I want to eat these this gumbo, I want to

910
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 2: eat this jumbala. I want to eat this pole boy,

911
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: I want to eat this at two faith, this boodham.

912
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: But what I need to do is to hire me

913
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: a personal chef and eat fish and eat chicken, and eat.

914
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 2: Turkey and eat lean cuts of meat and eat badgies.

915
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: But that's not what he that's not what he that's

916
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: not what he needs, that's what he wants to do.

917
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: So he eats that bull dye and then everybody to

918
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: make excuses for him.

919
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: He just a big people talking about shad a look

920
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: at an elephant. He all he eat his grass. Yeah,

921
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: but he eat four hundred pounds of the day. That's

922
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: why his ass big yeah, look at a whale. Yeah, well,

923
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: you eat thousands and thousand pounds of crimp, you gonna

924
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 3: beat big yeah z A. Y'all doesn't have discipline. Y'all

925
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: gotta stop making excuses. But he one hundred million too.

926
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: Do you see what the money that Jason Tatum just got?

927
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be.

928
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 5: And his approach to the game is completely different. His

929
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 5: approach to the game is completely different.

930
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: He himself out the league. Well, I guess well, you know, hey,

931
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: ask for a trial with the Saints. They play left tackle,

932
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: baby can play d N. They don't give damn. I

933
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: give me you get in the NFL.

934
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on, i'mna turn this

935
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: ac down.

936
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 3: Boy.

937
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm cold shit.

938
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: Man, I don't get it. I don't chang chant y'all,

939
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: y'all can't convince me. Now, y'all have made their excuses.

940
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to shame the man, but this

941
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: is embarrassing. This is embarrassing. He don't care enough about

942
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: the game. But y'all mad at me when I call

943
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: him out and says he's undisciplined, that he doesn't he

944
00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: doesn't he's not trying well maybe, but stop. Yeah, y'all

945
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: say let the kid eat, even though the man eating

946
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: himself out of a job. Y'all, I could see the

947
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: guy that said that that tells him everything I need

948
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: to know about you, that says that says more about

949
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: you than it tell us about him. Let you see

950
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: a man sabotage of himself and you say let him

951
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: continue down this road. But then y'all quick to say

952
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: why the vest didn't pull him aside? Why did Shannon?

953
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: Why didn't you reach out? Why did you try to help?

954
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: Because dumb dumbs like you jump in the chat and

955
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: say let the man eat, y'all the same ones that

956
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: when ab was on that bull job. Let that man

957
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: live in his life, Shaunter, you don't live your You

958
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about.

959
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: Now.

960
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: Look it's embarrassing, I know. Think about what you said.

961
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: He's only twenty two and he that big. Big kids

962
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: become big adults. Baby elephants are cute and cuddly, what

963
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: do they grow up to be?

964
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: Big?

965
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: Oh? Yoe? This man?

966
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: Somebody in the chance say let that man live his life.

967
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: Another dude talking about he only twenty two. Uh he

968
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: that big at twenty two? How old he gonna be?

969
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 2: How big is he gonna be at twenty five?

970
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: On, yoe? How big he gonna be at thirty?

971
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: What about when you retire? Hey, boy's colder's hell? Ain't

972
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: here boy, I'm not bad shit?

973
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: But see but see when when when? When they always say, well,

974
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: ain't have nobody's corner the veterans. But when best try

975
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: to tell him? Listen what what people have tried to

976
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 2: I guarantee people in the locker room have tried to

977
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: tell us all y'all bro oh, yoe, I got somebody

978
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: to prepare my meals. I've had somebody to prepare my

979
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: meals for the last ten fifteen years. Don't make their

980
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: land the money? You mean to tell me you got

981
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: a almost a two hundred million dollar contract and you

982
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: can't pay one hundred thousand or one hundred and fifty thousand.

983
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: Because I look at it as an investment.

984
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: Oh to you buy something for you invest in something,

985
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: you expect that thing to play down.

986
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: The road.

987
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: For a little bit. Look at it now.

988
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: People bought Apple, Google, Netflix, n Veada, whatever the case

989
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 2: may be. You invest a little, you get a lot, right, Joe,

990
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: you mean to tell me I can't invest in me.

991
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me I can't invest in me.

992
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: I can't spend a million dollars. I can't spend a

993
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: million dollars two million dollars to get fifty seventy million

994
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: dollars a year in return.

995
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, this is this is the case that we

996
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 5: always talk about. As a player. You have to want

997
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 5: it for yourself. You can't want it more than him.

998
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 3: So people locker.

999
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: Room telling them, coaches telling them, friends, telling them, whether

1000
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: it be family, telling.

1001
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 7: Them until he gets it through his mind. In order

1002
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 7: for me to function at the best of my ability

1003
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 7: at the highest level and become remain one of the

1004
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 7: greats and lyrics to the expectations that we all thought,

1005
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 7: you know, he would be, he has to want to

1006
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 7: do it.

1007
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: We can't complain about it.

1008
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 2: I said in the Beata. I didn't say the bottle

1009
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: cast it, I said in the Beata. But okay, yeah,

1010
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: but closely, I ain't say no the bottle.

1011
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: I know.

1012
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 2: I didn't say that. I mean, oh, you the guys

1013
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: missed one hundred and ninety games in five seasons. Yeah,

1014
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety games. That's damn there forty games

1015
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: a season.

1016
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I know one thing again, yeah, I know

1017
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 5: one thing what I know what I know, I know

1018
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 5: what he looks like, and I know what you get

1019
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 5: once see on that goddamn caught boy.

1020
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 3: Okay, when is it that? Though?

1021
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 5: I know, I know, I hear what you're saying, Baby,

1022
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 5: I hear we say that that that joker nice boy

1023
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 5: when he is playing.

1024
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: Ain't no telling what he fin the two?

1025
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: So is he a part time or full time employee?

1026
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 3: Because I'm being in full time wages, but I'm getting

1027
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 3: part time work part time?

1028
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 5: And do you think Oh, I got a question for

1029
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 5: you though, what do you think about them trading him?

1030
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 5: And if if they if he was to go in

1031
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 5: the trade block, or if they are fed up with

1032
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: him not being healthy, not being available, what would you

1033
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 5: like to see him go?

1034
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, let's just say, for the sake

1035
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: of argument, that trading it's gonna lit even worse if

1036
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: you get his ass in shape, because why couldn't.

1037
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 3: You do it? There?

1038
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: Ah, that's that's that's a good one. But I mean, oyo,

1039
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: they maybe maybe maybe maybe a change of scene is necessary.

1040
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it's something that he needs.

1041
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: They got they gotta half fat food everywhere you go?

1042
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 3: What here? You think? You always say you gonna turn

1043
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 3: the beacon.

1044
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm confused.

1045
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 3: I don't.

1046
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: I don't get why people when you get in that situation,

1047
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: O Joe. And this is what I tell guys all

1048
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: the time. There'll be a time and a place you

1049
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: can act the damn food. But before then, get all

1050
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: the money you can, so then when they get rid

1051
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 2: of you, you could say I got five hundred million

1052
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: self on a million, I can act a damn food.

1053
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: But I'm not leaving no money on the table, right,

1054
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 2: I'm not, And I'm not gonna end my career prematurely.

1055
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: I almost squeeze every last bit because I'm sure I

1056
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: can find something to do with the hug or the

1057
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: peel of the orange. I'm sure I can find some

1058
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: use with it. I'm gonna get all the juice and

1059
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna eat it, but I gotta find a use.

1060
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 3: Let me look up. What can I do with an

1061
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 3: orange pill? Is there's something I can do? Hey? I

1062
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 3: can cook, I can squi it. The zets don't put

1063
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: zest on orange zence, Yeah, I can. I can find

1064
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: something on you I'm getting every last drop out of

1065
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: this orange, right, I'm just not gonna juice. That's it.

1066
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: Come on, bro, and.

1067
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 5: You gotta think maybe maybe as he gets older, maybe

1068
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 5: a click, maybe it will click.

1069
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 3: You realize it's harder to get waid off here when

1070
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: you're that side that you get older.

1071
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 5: Oh, you ain't got to tell me, because you know

1072
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 5: when I when I was, when I was eighteen, I

1073
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 5: was about now, man.

1074
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: I don't man with that kind of Oh Joe, do

1075
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: you know what some people not?

1076
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 6: Not all?

1077
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 3: Because we've seen people have good jobs and that one

1078
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 3: professional athletes and squander it and if it.

1079
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: Up being tardy or being drunk, getting high, doing whatever

1080
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: the case may be. But when you get in that situation,

1081
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 2: how I wonder how many times did that man dream

1082
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: of being in.

1083
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: The situation that he was in?

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00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 2: Say, Lord, if you help me get here, I ain't

1085
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: gonna no way, I mess it up right right, and Lord,

1086
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: bel hold to get there and then boom, that's what

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00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: I just I just don't get it. I don't, I don't.

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00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: I don't get it, and nobody's gonna make me understand. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Joe bj Armstrong Today's NBA player Robots who just shoot

1090
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: three pointers in hunt for files. When I go watch

1091
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: the game, there's no more creativity, there's no more imagination.

1092
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: It's just we have basically robots running up and down

1093
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: the court. You run to the three point line. I

1094
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: run to the three point line. First, I try to

1095
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 2: get a lay up. I can't get a layup. I

1096
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: try to get fouled. If someone drives and they don't

1097
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 2: call a file, these players go berserk. Now if they

1098
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: have the ride of pass to go to the basket

1099
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 2: and look more foul, they're not even going to the basket.

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Speaker 3: Score.

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00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: They're looking to the basket. They're looking to go to

1102
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 2: the basket, get fouled. This is what's being taught. I'm

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00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: not going to be mad at the players. This is

1104
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: what's being taught. We stripped the players of any kind

1105
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 2: of imagination. We've stripped the players of any type of

1106
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 2: Read the defense, take what the defense is giving you.

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00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: You agree, I mean, I understand what he's saying. But

1108
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: the game is evolves and bj is played, and there

1109
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: are players that have a creative mindset. There are players

1110
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: that are really good at creating space, putting the ball

1111
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: on the floor, being able to beat people off the

1112
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: dribble on their own. That in itself is creativity.

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00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 3: Where is the creativity taking sixty three the night? Well?

1114
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: Hold on, there are very few teams that do that,

1115
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: you know that, right? The Celtics, the war established how many?

1116
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: How many? How many threes dot the NBA game? We're fits,

1117
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: Hold on it.

1118
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: They shot seventy and in the Lakers game. In the

1119
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: Lakers game tonight, they shot seventy four combined threes they

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Speaker 2: made twenty seven of them.

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00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm talking about efficient. Who's more efficient from

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00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: from the three point line outside of the goddamn Warriors

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00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: and Celtics.

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00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: That's that's his point. Ain't nobody efficient? And they keep

1125
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 2: jacking them up? You made it?

1126
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 3: You made it?

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00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 5: Thought, Yeah, yeah, listen, old, old the old heads came.

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Speaker 3: The game is different, Oh Joe.

1129
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: They average shooting per team thirty seven and a half

1130
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: threes per game. Okay, so when you extrapolate that times too,

1131
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: that's seventy four threes a game.

1132
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 5: You know what that's like. That's like me saying, you

1133
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 5: know what, I'm mad. There's no creativity and we don't

1134
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 5: run the ball to open up the pass first like

1135
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 5: they did back when we was playing. Now they throwing

1136
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 5: the ball seventy times a game. Yeah, the game has changed,

1137
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 5: the game is evolved. It's not the same as it

1138
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 5: once was. At some point you got to adapt with

1139
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 5: the times that we're in and not complain about them.

1140
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 3: And just enjoy it.

1141
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: But I listen, I totally understand where he's coming from.

1142
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 2: I do understand something is going on, because the ratings

1143
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: is not looking good right now, Ojo. The lack of defense.

1144
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: You know, they feel like people are just going to

1145
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: the basket. They cry, like you said, they cry when

1146
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: they don't get fouled. I understand there's some type of bru.

1147
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: I mean, o Jo.

1148
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: If I thought, if it's like they turn the ball over,

1149
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: they think they get fouled, they argue with the referee

1150
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: and the other teams got the ball going. If I

1151
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 2: think I got held and the quarterback throws a pick

1152
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: and the guy running the ball the other way, why

1153
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: the hell I'm gonna argue with the back judge. Let

1154
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: me go make the tackle and then the next time out,

1155
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 2: I said, bro, that will he helped me.

1156
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 3: These guys argue with the officials and the guys that

1157
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 3: have got the ball and breaking they laying it up.

1158
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, uh, I don't know. Look, I'm like you, o, Joe.

1159
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: I look, I take it for what it is. I

1160
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: know the game is evolved, It's gonna ever evolved, and

1161
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: I think some people gotta just get over the fact. Right,

1162
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: this is what it is now. It ain't going back,

1163
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: It's not it's not going back. It's going forward. And

1164
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: you might even see less defense, you might see more

1165
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: threes because everybody feels the way to win games is

1166
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: to shoot the three. And that's why you don't see it.

1167
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody. That's why you don't see a whole lot

1168
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: of guys that could post upright, post stuff for what

1169
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: that's a two. You don't see guys trying the duncans.

1170
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 3: But it used to.

1171
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: I want to be like Mike, they said. Now I

1172
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: want to be like Steph. I mean, oh, you're look

1173
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: at it. You watch watch your YouTube seven eight year

1174
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: old stepping back shooting three. Ain't nobody going to the

1175
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: basket them joking, stepping back shoot three.

1176
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 3: Like James Harden. I was like, bro, come on that.

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00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where the game is hited. They see it

1178
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: and it is what it is. Hey, I've accepted it.

1179
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: I don't get bad, hey, I just look at it like, damn,

1180
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: y'all at least at least stop it. Just don't let

1181
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: it have a layup line. That's a I and you

1182
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: know how didn't be warm up on you and to

1183
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: just lay them all up. Sometimes it'd be like that

1184
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: in the game. I'm like, bro, y'all not gonna stop

1185
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: them at all. Y'all got to even started, like try,

1186
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: that's where they are.

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Speaker 1: The volume