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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we heard

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Speaker 1: but it's so worth it. On today's show, we'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what events to pay attention to while you rot

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Speaker 1: on your couch this last weekend at the Olympics. Plus

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Speaker 1: producer Alex wais in on wrestling, I help you understand

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Speaker 1: what the heck's going on in the break in competition,

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Speaker 1: and producer Misha and I talk about how we get

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Speaker 1: the iconic Dynastic USA basketball team the hype that they deserve.

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Speaker 1: It's all coming up right after this welcome back slices.

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Speaker 1: Today's show is coming to you directly under the flight

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Speaker 1: path of the rehearsals for Chicago's aired Water Show. So

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Speaker 1: if you hear a whoosh during the show, it's either

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Speaker 1: here's what you need to know today. On the map,

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Speaker 1: twenty year old US wrestler a meat alre secured her

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Speaker 1: first ever Olympic medal, and it was the best kind

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Speaker 1: to gold in the women's sixty eight kilo event. Get this, y'all,

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Speaker 1: A meat hasn't lost a match in five years, and

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Speaker 1: she's got an international record of forty one straight wins

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Speaker 1: absolute dominance. With the victory, she becomes the youngest Olympic

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Speaker 1: gold medalist in the history of US wrestling and just

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Speaker 1: the third American woman to take home the gold. One

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Speaker 1: day later, Team USA Sarah Hildebrandt became the fourth winning

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Speaker 1: the fifty kilo competition. We'll have more on that event

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Speaker 1: later in the show. In boxing, if you've been listening

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Speaker 1: to a good game, you know the name Iman Khalif, the

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Speaker 1: Algerian welterweight boxer, Well, she's onto the gold medal about today.

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Speaker 1: She'll face Yonglu at four to fifty one pm Eastern

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Speaker 1: today with a chance to win Algeria's first women's boxing

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Speaker 1: U Ting. We've talked about her, the boxer for Chinese

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Speaker 1: Taipei is onto the featherweight gold medal round on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're just talking from the outside looking in,

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Speaker 1: surrounding them. Huge kudos to both of them. In indoor volleyball,

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Speaker 1: the reigning Olympic champion US team beat Brazil in the

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Speaker 1: semifinals in a five set thriller that was a rematch

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Speaker 1: of the Tokyo final. US move on to the gold

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Speaker 1: medal match on Sunday. In track and field, the four

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Speaker 1: Shakarrie Richardson put the team on her back in the

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Speaker 1: gave her a glance in the process. It was the

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Speaker 1: stuff of legend. In the fifteen hundred, Americans Nikki Hilts

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Speaker 1: the four hundred meter hurdle, Sidney McLaughlin Lavroni set another

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Speaker 1: Anna Cockrel earned the silver in a personal best fifty

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Speaker 1: Davis Woodhall won gold and Jasmine Moore grabbed bronze. This

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Speaker 1: this week. In the pool, you guys were sad today.

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Speaker 1: Our girl, Maggie Steffens and the US water polo team

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Speaker 1: a great reason because the mnba's Los Angeles Lakers officially

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Speaker 1: Speaking of la Jordan, Childs told today's show host Hotacopy

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Speaker 1: that she'll be returning to UCLA to finish up her

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Speaker 1: last two years competing for Bruins Gymnastics. The nine time

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Speaker 1: That is big news that she's returning to the Blue

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Speaker 1: and Gold. Now onto the kiddos. The Little League Softball

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Speaker 1: World Series Championship game in Greenville, North Carolina takes place

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, and wake up, bestie. Angel Reese's Rebok collection

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Speaker 1: what's in stock rebuck stock rhyming. You might notice that

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Speaker 1: and bee boys. We got you covered. Breaking is actually

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Speaker 1: the subject of the very first installment of No Dumb Question.

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Speaker 1: You're thinking it, but you don't want to say it.

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Speaker 1: You're wondering it, but you don't want to ask it. Well,

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Speaker 1: good game. With Sarah Spain, there are no dumb questions.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: So, if I've seen the nineteen eighty four breakdancing movie

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Speaker 1: Not quite. Here's how it's gonna go down. In Paris.

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Speaker 1: There are sixteen breakers, we call them B girls, and

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Speaker 1: are called throwdowns. A throwdown starts the moment a breaker

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Speaker 1: they have three buttons for that mild, moderate, and severe,

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Speaker 2: They're scored based on who looks the coolest, right.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we root for all of the breakers, especially

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Speaker 1: film about her in a previous edition of Fight Me

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Speaker 1: Esday Lauder. I'm gonna go break for gold. Uh. Just

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Speaker 1: the coolest story ever. So sunny Choi, let's go today

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Orge Slices. Let's talk a little hoops. We

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Speaker 1: haven't done a deep dive into the US women's basketball team,

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Speaker 1: and I think in part that's because we're sort of

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Speaker 1: But I do think we risk underappreciating just how great

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Speaker 1: we'll actually get to that and where they rank in

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Speaker 1: a little bit about what we've seen from them so far.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be fun, Sarah. I cannot wait

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Speaker 2: Is it allowed to not play?

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Speaker 1: Can you not play?

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Speaker 1: The game notes for the USA Basketball semi is all

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Speaker 2: Man, Sarah, it's a big question.

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Speaker 3: I think you know, the first half of the WNBA season,

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Team USA basketball and God, please please

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Speaker 2: I'm standing right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm standing it right Oh now, at me if they don't,

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Speaker 4: In a letter to the Indian Olympic Association, Vinesh wrote, quote, we,

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Speaker 4: All that to say, Fogott is someone who has already

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Speaker 4: Wrestling's current rules state that if you fail to make

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Alex. That's super heartbreaking and I

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Speaker 1: it's Friday, unless, of course, you're the American healthcare system

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Speaker 5: Also, not only in the village to we have free food,

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Speaker 1: Like what wild right? You got to fly to France

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Speaker 1: But thank you for the giggle, and trust me, you're

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Speaker 1: not alone. Airy. I know so many people who call

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