WEBVTT - Sims and Things 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:04.480 It's really fun when I run into someone that I 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.400 haven't seen in decades and get to catch up and 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.879 hear about all the great things. I ran into my 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:15.680 next guest, Molly Sims at a New Year's Eve party 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:19.040 a couple of years ago, and now, um, she asked 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:20.800 me to be on her podcast, and I asked her 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.840 to be online. I hope you enjoy my conversation with 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.760 the one and only Molly Sims. This is the first 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:31.080 for me. I was just on Molly's podcast and now 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:33.880 she's on mine. And I know that Molly is very 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.760 similar to me, where she's probably got ten million other 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.920 things going on as do I. So I'm just getting 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.720 the color back in my cheek. I smelled the Altoyd's 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.320 the Peppermint, which kind of woke me up. And how 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.640 how are you doing? After we just talked for an hour? 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:50.839 I was just selling Bobby on Mike. I forgot my 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.559 kids lunch and they're hot lunch, so I'm not I'm 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.240 not winning over here. Now. You're so amazing just to 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.680 like talk about your career and your life, and you know, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.800 it's it's uh, it's incredible what women can do when 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.920 they put their focus on their mind and and they 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.720 really go for it. But it's you know, it's not easy. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.399 People think that it's really easy, and it's not. There's 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.520 a reason they call this work. That does require a 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.399 lot of work. It requires a lot of organization, and 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:23.880 it requires help. So tell me what you do to 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.440 kind of get your life, which you've got three kids, 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:30.120 a husband, and you know, a pretty out their career. 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.679 So what what are tricks that you do? You know, 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.919 I think it's kind of what you said on our podcast. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:40.560 I've been really able. I've been I've been able to pivot. 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:43.880 I've been able to see the writing on the wall 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.399 when modeling was going to end or not end, but 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.480 it's probably not going to go on forever do I 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.880 even want it to? And then you know, to go 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:57.560 into MTV House of Style and then to acting and hosting. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.640 I could always kind of see the ding on the wall. 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.680 But I also felt like it was more of me 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:07.680 wanting to you use the word curious. I'm a very 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.920 curious person as well, um, and so I've been able 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:17.600 to really take that curiosity sprinkle a little hard work 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.919 and then a little bit of luck, and it's definitely 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:27.160 it served me. But I have to say, um, hard work. Um, 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:31.519 it's probably you know, being kind. I've gotten a lot. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.079 You know, faith Kate's who I know, you know, Who's 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:40.480 next model? So she started me, Um, almost thirty years ago. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:45.000 Well you're one of the original supermodels. So I assume 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.480 that I don't remember the first time we worked together. 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.680 Did you do Fashion Week? Was it on fashion show 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.919 or was it it was fashion Week? It was Oh 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.600 my god. I did everything. I mean, I did you 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:00.920 know Jay Crewe to Victoria's Secrets to name and Marcuston 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.320 Nordstrom to I mean the Gamut, I did the shows. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:09.240 I lived in Europe for seven years. Um, but you know, 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:13.120 I definitely think you know, having a husband, three kids, 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.840 I calendar a lot. I rely on people a lot. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:24.960 I do not if I'm um, if I'm micromanaging you, 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:29.400 there's a problem. I have learned to not. It's not 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:34.160 really my strength. Um, I'm a Gemini, so you'll know 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.600 when I'm upset or I'll just take it and take 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.120 it and take it and take it. And then I 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.280 have Sadly I can, I can blow up a little. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:45.360 So if I'm micro managing you, there's probably a problem. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.000 When my kids were your age, and I was, you know, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.760 working this corporate job and traveling and doing all this, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.760 Like I found little now they call them hacks. They 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.600 were little tricks. Like I realized that every weekend I 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.400 was running to the store to buy birthday gifts for 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.560 all the party I had to go to. And finally 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.520 I said, this is really dumb. I went to a 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.000 local bookstore and I bought gift certificates for five dollars, 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.560 ten dollars, and I just would keep them in my 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.720 drawer and decide how much to give. So those little 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.280 things made a difference. Have you been like creative that 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:20.159 way kind of you know, getting your kids Like, yeah, 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.159 I mean the first one, the first one, they don't 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.640 have that many friends. They're not really in school, it's 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.200 in pre school. But now there's three of them there 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.960 in lower elementary. There in kindergarten. I just said, a 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:34.160 kindergartener start and things gray and he's delicious and he 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:38.000 on me um and then Scarlet scar is in second 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:42.240 grade and Brooks is in fourth grade. And I learned 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.760 the birthday hack about two years ago when I was 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.760 constantly like, how could it be this person's birthday? So 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.120 I will buy in bulk, whether it be like a 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.000 great little sweatshirt, then we'll have it monogrammed or a 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.200 great little water bottle and then we can see the 0:04:56.240 --> 0:05:00.640 school list we know from last year. Those are time suckers. 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.920 If you have to get a birthday gift every three 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.080 days for one of your three children every week, like 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.000 there's a lot of birthdays. Um, but monogram you have 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.839 to take it up a notch and monogram the kids 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.320 thing I do every now. I do love a little monogram. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.600 I don't spend a lot, but I do sometimes monogram. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.719 I have a great girl here locally and she's you know, 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.840 she ships all over. Her name is Rachel Miriam and 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.640 she does incredible monogramming. And then my best friend Megan O'Brien, 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.960 who is living in New Jersey now from the city. Um, 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.320 she left the city about six months ago. She has 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:38.880 a company called Stitched Supply and it's become very well known. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:43.920 Her name's Megan and she will hand so sweatshirts and 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:48.240 anything purses and it's just everyone gets the biggest kick 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.760 out of it. Um. I do love to give a 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.880 good birthday gift, but um, I think it's more about 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.600 the thought. Yeah, But then you're thinking a lot. I 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.320 think I didn't think enough and I just kind of 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.080 had a react quickly because there was so many things 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.159 going on. But you know, but the buying in bulk, 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.480 the buying and the bags, Like we bought six unicorn 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.560 blanket heads that I knew at some point six girls 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.200 are going to get different girls are gonna get unicorn blankets, 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.360 you know what I mean. Like we ordered the bags 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.120 off Etsy for three dollars that had a pink candle 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.120 and a blue handle and a green handle. You know, 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:26.000 so those little tricks. Yeah, So are you crafty? Are 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:31.679 you like artistic? Are you? I would not say that 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.440 I am very crafty, but I do like to bake. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:40.040 I'm I'm a really good baker. My girl, my little one. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.240 We all like to watch baking shows. And if you 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.599 guys haven't watched is it Cake? I don't know who 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:50.000 you are. It's on Netflix and it's kind of amazing. 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.719 But I know, but I think the hacks are I 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.680 think the hacks are good because if you're working, you 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.480 really like calendar ing. For someone like me, that's like 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:06.120 I live and buy and die by calendar. Um, I'll 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:10.000 know what I'm doing way ahead of time, so I know, 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.480 we bulk shoot the podcast, which a lot of people 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:17.920 don't realize because it's it helps me, UM be more 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:22.000 present with my guests. It helps me. Really. We have 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.880 a great producer who we really kind of cone in 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.320 on what they do and how they do it, and UM, 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.920 we're really specific on who comes on, and we take 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:34.640 a lot of pride and not UM, but we definitely 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:40.320 I think organization is huge, huge, And how do you sleep? 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.840 You know, sleeping has been a little bit of an issue, 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:51.720 but I the magnesium citrate has probably saved me the most. UM. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:57.000 I also take to Marry Ruth's organic sleep gummies that 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.960 I think are amazing. UM has a great line of 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:08.600 organic UM supplements and all different things. UM. Sometimes is 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:13.480 there melotonin in it or just cbd? Um, it's just melatonin. Okay, 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:18.200 so they're melatonin. Yeah, yeah, I like CBD better than melotonin. Melantonin. 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.000 I always feel it the next day. I don't know why. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.960 My husband says that he takes melantonin and I'm like, 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.360 you have to stop taking melotonin. You you feel the effects. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.760 I don't really feel it, but he does. Everyone's different. 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:36.600 You were in law school when you decided to model. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.000 I wasn't in law school. I wanted to go to 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.720 law school. I was at Vanderbilt University, and it was 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.520 like I got in. I couldn't believe it. And I 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.160 never met a true crime show that I didn't like 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:54.000 even back then. Um, but I got the opportunity to 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:58.079 have some pictures made in Memphis, Tennessee, and then those 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:02.280 were sent to Faith and Joel at Next Models and 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:06.920 I came up and then the rest is history. And 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:11.520 did you finish college? Did you? No? No, It's funny. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.520 I was. My mother passed away a few years ago, 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:17.560 and I was going through my stuff and I found 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:22.440 my original Next Models like journal that I would write 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.840 down how many pounds I made, or euros or Frank's 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.800 or Deutsche marks or all the different things. But I 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.880 found a letter that I had facts to Vanderbilt University. Mean, like, 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.920 I've got this amazing opportunity that I think I'm going 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.160 to try to do. I'm I'm just gonna do one 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.839 more semester. And then I found a couple of postcards 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.480 that I had written, and I'm like, I think I 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.200 could make maybe a little money doing this, But it 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:51.280 was interesting to see and go back. Yeah, I have 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.760 my date original date books that I would write how 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.800 much taxis were and who I shot with and what 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.960 the address was. It's I'm so glad I saved my 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.720 don't know what I'll do with them, but it's pretty 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.680 it's pretty interesting. So I would write down everything I would. 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.040 I didn't have a lot of money, um when I 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.720 lived in Europe, and so I would you know, living 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.000 in London was to take a black taxi. I would 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:15.640 take all the tubes and then I would put on 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.960 my really nice hues and walk the like fifteen steps 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.080 so I wouldn't mess up anything. And like I put 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:27.520 this crazy miss sony Um dress at Joseph basically on 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.280 layaway because I'm like, Okay, I really want this dress, 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:32.640 you know, and to think about when you go back 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.360 and look at all of it, it's so it's it 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:50.440 seems like yesterday and and then it doesn't. When you 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:54.319 were modeling, you also have talked about, you know, weight 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.320 and dealing with how you know, you have to look 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.720 at yourself and I mean, look, everyone looks at you 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:04.080 and you're absolutely stunning and beautiful and an ageless. I 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:07.840 mean you always have been tall, blonde, beautiful, but I know, 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.240 modeling kind of messes with your brain a little bit. 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:15.439 So how was it for you? Um, in the beginning, 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.079 it was terrible. I mean it was probably the hardest thing. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.360 It was the one thing that almost made me stop. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.200 I think if it had not been for my mom 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:27.280 and you know, my my dad having that real support, 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.520 you know, growing up, I didn't. You know, my mom 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:35.160 was beautiful double dee boobs. She was always healthy and organic. 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:36.880 I mean when she grew up on a farm and 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.200 you know, there wasn't much, you know, we didn't really 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.600 talk about dieting or anything like that. And then when 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.120 I went to college, you know, you're at Vanderbilt, You're 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:50.160 eating Wendy's frosties and you know, dipping fringe fries in 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:54.040 them and chocolate cookie dough. And then all of a sudden, 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.480 you're in New York and then Faith tells you you're 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.439 not going to Grease to get your tears sheets. You're 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:05.240 going to Germany. And that was a real I mean, 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:11.400 that was why why Germany over Greece. You know, at 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.120 the time, I can't remember. I think it was a 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.080 better market. I'm not sure why she thought that, but 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:18.320 they were like you know what, I think you're going 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.520 to do more in Germany starting to really open up. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.079 You had at that time you had ham you had 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:29.679 Hamburg munich Um, and then you had before there was 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.520 next Internationally all over the world you had models one 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.640 in London, but I think Germany she just thought, you know, 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.959 I was quite classic as a beauty and I thought 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.600 she thought I could do better there to start off, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.800 to try to get a little bit of experience under 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.480 my belt. And it worked. I mean she was, you know, 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:54.600 definitely right, but it definitely triggered. You know, you're not 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:56.920 a size four, You're not a size six. They made 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.800 me go get my jeans. They want do they want 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.280 like bigger models in Germany? No, I was too big. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:09.120 I was considered really heavy, So yeah, yeah I was. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.360 I mean it was listen. I also Bobby entered the 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:17.280 modeling world, you know with Karende, Kate Moss, heroin Chic. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:23.160 So it wasn't the Cindy Crawford, you know, it wasn't 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:27.960 that whole beautiful. It was changing and I cut off 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.840 all my hair. I dyed at Clarial Espresso. I tried 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:38.400 to you know that hum but it was definitely you know, 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:44.400 difficult in terms of kind of understanding that, oh, hey, 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.000 it's not about what you're saying, it's about what you 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.280 look like. And for right now, it was really a 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.400 difficult moment to go from working so hard to get 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:58.040 into Vanderbilt to just standing there and then everything being 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:02.040 focused on what you look like. So yeah, I mean 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.559 I never knew my nose was crooked. I didn't know 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:12.040 until very crooked. To me, well, thank you until the photographers. 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.360 We're gonna go to a little bit left right. You know, 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.480 there are things that you know you don't realize and 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.640 thank God because then you don't obsess about them. But yes, 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.920 I have to say, did body dys morphia take over? 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.480 It's there was no way it wasn't going to. I 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:34.080 mean when someone you know, can I still get a 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:38.400 little like sweaty palms when I'm doing a fitting? Sure, 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.960 I mean not as much now because I have the money, 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.840 and you know, I'm not ashamed to say it that 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.000 Like I can tailor to a size four if I 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.960 need to, you know, so I don't get quite as 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.720 uncomfortable as I used to. And you know, I had 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.680 difficult situations. You know, for the most part, my modeling 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.480 career was incredib Well, you know, Faith still today helps 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.960 me and gives me advice and I'm Lee Crystals still 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:11.120 my agent, and you know I was very lucky to 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:17.480 have them. Um, but it's you know, it's it is 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.360 the business, and it's I always say, people always ask me, oh, 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.800 were you to let Scarlet model? I hope to God not, 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.680 but you know it will be ultimately her choice. But 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.080 because it's it's becomes a business. It's not just someone 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:36.240 taking your picture. It's not just someone someone's making money 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:40.600 off of you. And you had some very big, big, 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:45.840 high profile things Victoria's Secret, you had Sports illustrated me 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.920 and for the girl who was too fat and too 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:52.920 you know, not very cool. Making the cover of French 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:57.280 Vogue was pretty, you know, and then getting Sports Illustrated 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:01.080 and I did Cover Girl for five years and MTV 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:06.080 and you know it wasn't necessarily was I ever really 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:10.280 going to be that iconic? You know you are fashion 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:14.320 walking down the runway girl. Yeah, but you are your 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.400 iconic because you have so many different ways to describe you. 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:23.240 Because you also then turned it into acting. You were 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:27.440 on Is It Vegas? So a lot of time. How 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.080 did yeah, really long time. How did that? Like that 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:34.200 kind of made you more in the public eye. You know, 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.400 I really thought after the French Folk cover, I'm like, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:40.440 I am going to be cool. And then you know, 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.240 I got back to New York. I was living, I 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.320 would take the concord, I would do I would do 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.480 work in Paris, and I would come back to New York. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.600 And I just thought, Okay, I'm going to do it. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:55.359 And then Diane Smith, who at the time frustrated Diane. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.880 I love Diane itself when I was a lap artist, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:04.240 and um, now it's m J who's amazing, and uh 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.639 I got the opportunity to to meet her and she 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.720 was like, I kind of like you, You're like, you're nice. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.919 And then I ended up getting the House of Style 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:20.920 taking over UM for from so well after what I 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.160 think they did Amber and Shalom for like a little 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.560 bit of an interim, but um they kind of really 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.320 brought back House of Style UM in the late nineties. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.760 And so I did that and through all of you know, 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.679 reading que cards and learning to be still and I 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.640 still talk with my hands. UM, I kind of got 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:43.720 peeked and I did this old Navy commercial with Matthew Ralston, 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.680 who still loved this day and at the time it's 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.239 big into two videos and all of that, and I 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:53.159 only said three Yeah, I only said three words only 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.359 adult Navy. But I said it really well, like a 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.800 bunch of different times, and I don't know. Someone was 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.240 like all of you ever, and I was like, oh, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.560 I don't know, I'm not you know, I kind of 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.720 want to do more business after this, I think, um. 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.560 And then I ended up taking an acting class, an 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.560 intensive acting class August Um. Europe kind of shuts down 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.960 for the models, and so I came out to l 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.800 A to take an intensive Sandford Meisner class and I 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.639 ended up loving it. And I ended up doing the 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.760 two year program while I was living in New York 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.840 in Paris and I would fly back and forth. I 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:35.080 took seventies seven red Eyes to finish the program. And 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:36.879 then at the very end, about a year and a 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.200 half later, almost two years later, there was this little 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:42.200 role called delended a line and she was going to 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:46.400 be the daughter of Jimmy con and they're like, don't worry, 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:51.840 it's just reoccurring. It's never gonna No pilot gets picked up. Mike, Okay, 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.879 I don't even really know what a pilot is, but um, 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.160 and so I ended up auditioning and I was so, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:02.440 this is how easy. And I don't know if I've 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.560 ever told the story, but Gary Scott Thompson was our showrunner. 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.800 I was just actually texting him a second ago. He 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.119 was our showrunner and he's fabulous and he basically is 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.640 the one who um um came up with fast and furious. 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:19.400 He wrote this incredible article in script actually script from 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:24.720 the article, and Um, I was so concerned about being 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.439 too much like a model. I really wanted someone to 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.800 take me serious, like really wanted. I can remember my 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.240 audition outfit. I had jeans I were like a flip 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.280 flop like a plane shoe, and like a camo T shirt. 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:42.560 Like I looked as unexact sy and is unlike, I'm like, 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.639 you are going to take me serious? And so I 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.480 remember and they're like, oh, they really liked you. And 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:53.000 I was like, oh that's cool. Um, and they're like, well, 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.520 they're just like a little bit worried that you came 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.400 in like in a T shirt and jeans. I'm like, yes, 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.560 I want them to take me serious. And so so 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:03.480 they were like they're not you're you're okay, like wearing 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:05.639 dresses and he old and playing the character. I was like, 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.760 oh yeah, totally. Um I had to change my accent 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.080 to be to have more of a New York accent, 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.840 which that took me a second, but I ended up 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.679 getting it. And not only did I get it and 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.760 get it, they were like right before the upfronts at 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.520 the end of May or the middle of May, they 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.639 were like, it's um, it's not a reoccurring, it's a 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.920 series regular. And I was like, well, you know, They're like, 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.199 don't worry, it's never gonna go. I was like, okay, well, 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.160 I live half the time in Paris, so I don't 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.680 really know, like this is probably not gonna work, but 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.080 and there you go. It went for five five years. 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.880 So do me a favorite, show me a New York accent? 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:54.960 Oh my god, um god, I don't know now. Um 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.760 it's more New York like just talking like a little 0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:59.800 bit deeper and a little bit you know, like a 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:05.040 little bit lower, not like like it's my legs or well, 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:09.960 you're in California from Kentucky, so I'm I I know. 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:13.359 And Jimmy's was so strong, like once you and he was. 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.719 He and Josh were the main ones that I mainly 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:20.000 worked with. UM, but it was it was great. It 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:22.760 was a great experience. I mean Jimmy Khan, I mean, 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:26.280 come on, how like, how was he? You know what? 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:28.719 He was an ass in the beginning. I gotta tell you, 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:33.040 I left him. He was awful, and I think he 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:40.359 was just trying to make me confident, and he was 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.560 hard on us. He was hard on Josh. I mean, 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:45.760 Josh was coming from all my children. I mean, here 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.760 you are working with a soap star and a model, 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:54.520 and then there's Jimmy con who's your iconic veteran of acting, 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.880 and um. He would just say like, don't just don't 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:02.800 do anything, just stand there. And he was like, well, however, 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:04.840 I react, you react back to me, which I was 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.159 used to because of Meisner, and he just you know, 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.760 we had one blowout and that was it. He was 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.720 the best of the best, and I became a great, 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.359 pretty good, I think actor because of him. And he 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.800 and I think Josh will say the same. He was tough, 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:23.720 and but he was always like playing tennis with us. 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.000 We never knew how he was going to do his lines. 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:28.800 And because we never knew, we had we got to 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:31.399 play and we got to do different things and he 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:36.399 he no, he was just he was amazing and I 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.320 really missed him and I'm sad he passed away. Well, 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:53.400 thanks for sharing that, hearing all the things you've done. 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:56.000 And now you've got this podcast with which I was 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.960 lucky enough to be um asked to be on and 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.400 that's how I got you. I'm i podcast. So that's 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:05.399 great and I'm so happy. But like, you're someone that 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:08.840 has like dealt and done so much, what do you 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:11.560 do when you're having a moment where you just don't 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.560 feel good? Like either you know, you're having a bad 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.560 beauty moment, you're having a bad beauty month, you're having 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.719 a bad beauty day. Like what do you What are 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:22.320 your go to things that kind of help you get 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:27.439 it back together? You know? I think I was so 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:32.040 used to being always on that it took me a 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.920 second when I started having babies. I ended up having 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:38.119 a thyroid problem. When I had Brooks, I gained like 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:41.400 eighties something pound and that really shook me. I think 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.080 I wore my hair in a pony's heil so my 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:45.399 face would look thinner for like, I don't know, like 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:49.600 a year and a half. But I you know, I 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:53.720 got used to not having to be so extreme. I think, 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.040