Speaker 1: It's really fun when I run into someone that I
Speaker 1: haven't seen in decades and get to catch up and
Speaker 1: hear about all the great things. I ran into my
Speaker 1: next guest, Molly Sims at a New Year's Eve party
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and now, um, she asked
Speaker 1: me to be on her podcast, and I asked her
Speaker 1: to be online. I hope you enjoy my conversation with
Speaker 1: the one and only Molly Sims. This is the first
Speaker 1: for me. I was just on Molly's podcast and now
Speaker 1: she's on mine. And I know that Molly is very
Speaker 1: similar to me, where she's probably got ten million other
Speaker 1: things going on as do I. So I'm just getting
Speaker 1: the color back in my cheek. I smelled the Altoyd's
Speaker 1: the Peppermint, which kind of woke me up. And how
Speaker 1: how are you doing? After we just talked for an hour?
Speaker 1: I was just selling Bobby on Mike. I forgot my
Speaker 1: kids lunch and they're hot lunch, so I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not winning over here. Now. You're so amazing just to
Speaker 1: like talk about your career and your life, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's uh, it's incredible what women can do when
Speaker 1: they put their focus on their mind and and they
Speaker 1: really go for it. But it's you know, it's not easy.
Speaker 1: People think that it's really easy, and it's not. There's
Speaker 1: a reason they call this work. That does require a
Speaker 1: lot of work. It requires a lot of organization, and
Speaker 1: it requires help. So tell me what you do to
Speaker 1: kind of get your life, which you've got three kids,
Speaker 1: a husband, and you know, a pretty out their career.
Speaker 1: So what what are tricks that you do? You know,
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of what you said on our podcast.
Speaker 1: I've been really able. I've been I've been able to pivot.
Speaker 1: I've been able to see the writing on the wall
Speaker 1: when modeling was going to end or not end, but
Speaker 1: it's probably not going to go on forever do I
Speaker 1: even want it to? And then you know, to go
Speaker 1: into MTV House of Style and then to acting and hosting.
Speaker 1: I could always kind of see the ding on the wall.
Speaker 1: But I also felt like it was more of me
Speaker 1: wanting to you use the word curious. I'm a very
Speaker 1: curious person as well, um, and so I've been able
Speaker 1: to really take that curiosity sprinkle a little hard work
Speaker 1: and then a little bit of luck, and it's definitely
Speaker 1: it served me. But I have to say, um, hard work. Um,
Speaker 1: it's probably you know, being kind. I've gotten a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, faith Kate's who I know, you know, Who's
Speaker 1: next model? So she started me, Um, almost thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: Well you're one of the original supermodels. So I assume
Speaker 1: that I don't remember the first time we worked together.
Speaker 1: Did you do Fashion Week? Was it on fashion show
Speaker 1: or was it it was fashion Week? It was Oh
Speaker 1: my god. I did everything. I mean, I did you
Speaker 1: know Jay Crewe to Victoria's Secrets to name and Marcuston
Speaker 1: Nordstrom to I mean the Gamut, I did the shows.
Speaker 1: I lived in Europe for seven years. Um, but you know,
Speaker 1: I definitely think you know, having a husband, three kids,
Speaker 1: I calendar a lot. I rely on people a lot.
Speaker 1: I do not if I'm um, if I'm micromanaging you,
Speaker 1: there's a problem. I have learned to not. It's not
Speaker 1: really my strength. Um, I'm a Gemini, so you'll know
Speaker 1: when I'm upset or I'll just take it and take
Speaker 1: it and take it and take it. And then I
Speaker 1: have Sadly I can, I can blow up a little.
Speaker 1: So if I'm micro managing you, there's probably a problem.
Speaker 1: When my kids were your age, and I was, you know,
Speaker 1: working this corporate job and traveling and doing all this,
Speaker 1: Like I found little now they call them hacks. They
Speaker 1: were little tricks. Like I realized that every weekend I
Speaker 1: was running to the store to buy birthday gifts for
Speaker 1: all the party I had to go to. And finally
Speaker 1: I said, this is really dumb. I went to a
Speaker 1: local bookstore and I bought gift certificates for five dollars,
Speaker 1: ten dollars, and I just would keep them in my
Speaker 1: drawer and decide how much to give. So those little
Speaker 1: things made a difference. Have you been like creative that
Speaker 1: way kind of you know, getting your kids Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the first one, the first one, they don't
Speaker 1: have that many friends. They're not really in school, it's
Speaker 1: in pre school. But now there's three of them there
Speaker 1: in lower elementary. There in kindergarten. I just said, a
Speaker 1: kindergartener start and things gray and he's delicious and he
Speaker 1: on me um and then Scarlet scar is in second
Speaker 1: grade and Brooks is in fourth grade. And I learned
Speaker 1: the birthday hack about two years ago when I was
Speaker 1: constantly like, how could it be this person's birthday? So
Speaker 1: I will buy in bulk, whether it be like a
Speaker 1: great little sweatshirt, then we'll have it monogrammed or a
Speaker 1: great little water bottle and then we can see the
Speaker 1: school list we know from last year. Those are time suckers.
Speaker 1: If you have to get a birthday gift every three
Speaker 1: days for one of your three children every week, like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of birthdays. Um, but monogram you have
Speaker 1: to take it up a notch and monogram the kids
Speaker 1: thing I do every now. I do love a little monogram.
Speaker 1: I don't spend a lot, but I do sometimes monogram.
Speaker 1: I have a great girl here locally and she's you know,
Speaker 1: she ships all over. Her name is Rachel Miriam and
Speaker 1: she does incredible monogramming. And then my best friend Megan O'Brien,
Speaker 1: who is living in New Jersey now from the city. Um,
Speaker 1: she left the city about six months ago. She has
Speaker 1: a company called Stitched Supply and it's become very well known.
Speaker 1: Her name's Megan and she will hand so sweatshirts and
Speaker 1: anything purses and it's just everyone gets the biggest kick
Speaker 1: out of it. Um. I do love to give a
Speaker 1: good birthday gift, but um, I think it's more about
Speaker 1: the thought. Yeah, But then you're thinking a lot. I
Speaker 1: think I didn't think enough and I just kind of
Speaker 1: had a react quickly because there was so many things
Speaker 1: going on. But you know, but the buying in bulk,
Speaker 1: the buying and the bags, Like we bought six unicorn
Speaker 1: blanket heads that I knew at some point six girls
Speaker 1: are going to get different girls are gonna get unicorn blankets,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like we ordered the bags
Speaker 1: off Etsy for three dollars that had a pink candle
Speaker 1: and a blue handle and a green handle. You know,
Speaker 1: so those little tricks. Yeah, So are you crafty? Are
Speaker 1: you like artistic? Are you? I would not say that
Speaker 1: I am very crafty, but I do like to bake.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a really good baker. My girl, my little one.
Speaker 1: We all like to watch baking shows. And if you
Speaker 1: guys haven't watched is it Cake? I don't know who
Speaker 1: you are. It's on Netflix and it's kind of amazing.
Speaker 1: But I know, but I think the hacks are I
Speaker 1: think the hacks are good because if you're working, you
Speaker 1: really like calendar ing. For someone like me, that's like
Speaker 1: I live and buy and die by calendar. Um, I'll
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing way ahead of time, so I know,
Speaker 1: we bulk shoot the podcast, which a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't realize because it's it helps me, UM be more
Speaker 1: present with my guests. It helps me. Really. We have
Speaker 1: a great producer who we really kind of cone in
Speaker 1: on what they do and how they do it, and UM,
Speaker 1: we're really specific on who comes on, and we take
Speaker 1: a lot of pride and not UM, but we definitely
Speaker 1: I think organization is huge, huge, And how do you sleep?
Speaker 1: You know, sleeping has been a little bit of an issue,
Speaker 1: but I the magnesium citrate has probably saved me the most. UM.
Speaker 1: I also take to Marry Ruth's organic sleep gummies that
Speaker 1: I think are amazing. UM has a great line of
Speaker 1: organic UM supplements and all different things. UM. Sometimes is
Speaker 1: there melotonin in it or just cbd? Um, it's just melatonin. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they're melatonin. Yeah, yeah, I like CBD better than melotonin. Melantonin.
Speaker 1: I always feel it the next day. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: My husband says that he takes melantonin and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you have to stop taking melotonin. You you feel the effects.
Speaker 1: I don't really feel it, but he does. Everyone's different.
Speaker 1: You were in law school when you decided to model.
Speaker 1: I wasn't in law school. I wanted to go to
Speaker 1: law school. I was at Vanderbilt University, and it was
Speaker 1: like I got in. I couldn't believe it. And I
Speaker 1: never met a true crime show that I didn't like
Speaker 1: even back then. Um, but I got the opportunity to
Speaker 1: have some pictures made in Memphis, Tennessee, and then those
Speaker 1: were sent to Faith and Joel at Next Models and
Speaker 1: I came up and then the rest is history. And
Speaker 1: did you finish college? Did you? No? No, It's funny.
Speaker 1: I was. My mother passed away a few years ago,
Speaker 1: and I was going through my stuff and I found
Speaker 1: my original Next Models like journal that I would write
Speaker 1: down how many pounds I made, or euros or Frank's
Speaker 1: or Deutsche marks or all the different things. But I
Speaker 1: found a letter that I had facts to Vanderbilt University. Mean, like,
Speaker 1: I've got this amazing opportunity that I think I'm going
Speaker 1: to try to do. I'm I'm just gonna do one
Speaker 1: more semester. And then I found a couple of postcards
Speaker 1: that I had written, and I'm like, I think I
Speaker 1: could make maybe a little money doing this, But it
Speaker 1: was interesting to see and go back. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: my date original date books that I would write how
Speaker 1: much taxis were and who I shot with and what
Speaker 1: the address was. It's I'm so glad I saved my
Speaker 1: don't know what I'll do with them, but it's pretty
Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting. So I would write down everything I would.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of money, um when I
Speaker 1: lived in Europe, and so I would you know, living
Speaker 1: in London was to take a black taxi. I would
Speaker 1: take all the tubes and then I would put on
Speaker 1: my really nice hues and walk the like fifteen steps
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't mess up anything. And like I put
Speaker 1: this crazy miss sony Um dress at Joseph basically on
Speaker 1: layaway because I'm like, Okay, I really want this dress,
Speaker 1: you know, and to think about when you go back
Speaker 1: and look at all of it, it's so it's it
Speaker 1: seems like yesterday and and then it doesn't. When you
Speaker 1: were modeling, you also have talked about, you know, weight
Speaker 1: and dealing with how you know, you have to look
Speaker 1: at yourself and I mean, look, everyone looks at you
Speaker 1: and you're absolutely stunning and beautiful and an ageless. I
Speaker 1: mean you always have been tall, blonde, beautiful, but I know,
Speaker 1: modeling kind of messes with your brain a little bit.
Speaker 1: So how was it for you? Um, in the beginning,
Speaker 1: it was terrible. I mean it was probably the hardest thing.
Speaker 1: It was the one thing that almost made me stop.
Speaker 1: I think if it had not been for my mom
Speaker 1: and you know, my my dad having that real support,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up, I didn't. You know, my mom
Speaker 1: was beautiful double dee boobs. She was always healthy and organic.
Speaker 1: I mean when she grew up on a farm and
Speaker 1: you know, there wasn't much, you know, we didn't really
Speaker 1: talk about dieting or anything like that. And then when
Speaker 1: I went to college, you know, you're at Vanderbilt, You're
Speaker 1: eating Wendy's frosties and you know, dipping fringe fries in
Speaker 1: them and chocolate cookie dough. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're in New York and then Faith tells you you're
Speaker 1: not going to Grease to get your tears sheets. You're
Speaker 1: going to Germany. And that was a real I mean,
Speaker 1: that was why why Germany over Greece. You know, at
Speaker 1: the time, I can't remember. I think it was a
Speaker 1: better market. I'm not sure why she thought that, but
Speaker 1: they were like you know what, I think you're going
Speaker 1: to do more in Germany starting to really open up.
Speaker 1: You had at that time you had ham you had
Speaker 1: Hamburg munich Um, and then you had before there was
Speaker 1: next Internationally all over the world you had models one
Speaker 1: in London, but I think Germany she just thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I was quite classic as a beauty and I thought
Speaker 1: she thought I could do better there to start off,
Speaker 1: to try to get a little bit of experience under
Speaker 1: my belt. And it worked. I mean she was, you know,
Speaker 1: definitely right, but it definitely triggered. You know, you're not
Speaker 1: a size four, You're not a size six. They made
Speaker 1: me go get my jeans. They want do they want
Speaker 1: like bigger models in Germany? No, I was too big.
Speaker 1: I was considered really heavy, So yeah, yeah I was.
Speaker 1: I mean it was listen. I also Bobby entered the
Speaker 1: modeling world, you know with Karende, Kate Moss, heroin Chic.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't the Cindy Crawford, you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: that whole beautiful. It was changing and I cut off
Speaker 1: all my hair. I dyed at Clarial Espresso. I tried
Speaker 1: to you know that hum but it was definitely you know,
Speaker 1: difficult in terms of kind of understanding that, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: it's not about what you're saying, it's about what you
Speaker 1: look like. And for right now, it was really a
Speaker 1: difficult moment to go from working so hard to get
Speaker 1: into Vanderbilt to just standing there and then everything being
Speaker 1: focused on what you look like. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I never knew my nose was crooked. I didn't know
Speaker 1: until very crooked. To me, well, thank you until the photographers.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to a little bit left right. You know,
Speaker 1: there are things that you know you don't realize and
Speaker 1: thank God because then you don't obsess about them. But yes,
Speaker 1: I have to say, did body dys morphia take over?
Speaker 1: It's there was no way it wasn't going to. I
Speaker 1: mean when someone you know, can I still get a
Speaker 1: little like sweaty palms when I'm doing a fitting? Sure,
Speaker 1: I mean not as much now because I have the money,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not ashamed to say it that
Speaker 1: Like I can tailor to a size four if I
Speaker 1: need to, you know, so I don't get quite as
Speaker 1: uncomfortable as I used to. And you know, I had
Speaker 1: difficult situations. You know, for the most part, my modeling
Speaker 1: career was incredib Well, you know, Faith still today helps
Speaker 1: me and gives me advice and I'm Lee Crystals still
Speaker 1: my agent, and you know I was very lucky to
Speaker 1: have them. Um, but it's you know, it's it is
Speaker 1: the business, and it's I always say, people always ask me, oh,
Speaker 1: were you to let Scarlet model? I hope to God not,
Speaker 1: but you know it will be ultimately her choice. But
Speaker 1: because it's it's becomes a business. It's not just someone
Speaker 1: taking your picture. It's not just someone someone's making money
Speaker 1: off of you. And you had some very big, big,
Speaker 1: high profile things Victoria's Secret, you had Sports illustrated me
Speaker 1: and for the girl who was too fat and too
Speaker 1: you know, not very cool. Making the cover of French
Speaker 1: Vogue was pretty, you know, and then getting Sports Illustrated
Speaker 1: and I did Cover Girl for five years and MTV
Speaker 1: and you know it wasn't necessarily was I ever really
Speaker 1: going to be that iconic? You know you are fashion
Speaker 1: walking down the runway girl. Yeah, but you are your
Speaker 1: iconic because you have so many different ways to describe you.
Speaker 1: Because you also then turned it into acting. You were
Speaker 1: on Is It Vegas? So a lot of time. How
Speaker 1: did yeah, really long time. How did that? Like that
Speaker 1: kind of made you more in the public eye. You know,
Speaker 1: I really thought after the French Folk cover, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I am going to be cool. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I got back to New York. I was living, I
Speaker 1: would take the concord, I would do I would do
Speaker 1: work in Paris, and I would come back to New York.
Speaker 1: And I just thought, Okay, I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1: And then Diane Smith, who at the time frustrated Diane.
Speaker 1: I love Diane itself when I was a lap artist,
Speaker 1: and um, now it's m J who's amazing, and uh
Speaker 1: I got the opportunity to to meet her and she
Speaker 1: was like, I kind of like you, You're like, you're nice.
Speaker 1: And then I ended up getting the House of Style
Speaker 1: taking over UM for from so well after what I
Speaker 1: think they did Amber and Shalom for like a little
Speaker 1: bit of an interim, but um they kind of really
Speaker 1: brought back House of Style UM in the late nineties.
Speaker 1: And so I did that and through all of you know,
Speaker 1: reading que cards and learning to be still and I
Speaker 1: still talk with my hands. UM, I kind of got
Speaker 1: peeked and I did this old Navy commercial with Matthew Ralston,
Speaker 1: who still loved this day and at the time it's
Speaker 1: big into two videos and all of that, and I
Speaker 1: only said three Yeah, I only said three words only
Speaker 1: adult Navy. But I said it really well, like a
Speaker 1: bunch of different times, and I don't know. Someone was
Speaker 1: like all of you ever, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not you know, I kind of
Speaker 1: want to do more business after this, I think, um.
Speaker 1: And then I ended up taking an acting class, an
Speaker 1: intensive acting class August Um. Europe kind of shuts down
Speaker 1: for the models, and so I came out to l
Speaker 1: A to take an intensive Sandford Meisner class and I
Speaker 1: ended up loving it. And I ended up doing the
Speaker 1: two year program while I was living in New York
Speaker 1: in Paris and I would fly back and forth. I
Speaker 1: took seventies seven red Eyes to finish the program. And
Speaker 1: then at the very end, about a year and a
Speaker 1: half later, almost two years later, there was this little
Speaker 1: role called delended a line and she was going to
Speaker 1: be the daughter of Jimmy con and they're like, don't worry,
Speaker 1: it's just reoccurring. It's never gonna No pilot gets picked up. Mike, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't even really know what a pilot is, but um,
Speaker 1: and so I ended up auditioning and I was so,
Speaker 1: this is how easy. And I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: ever told the story, but Gary Scott Thompson was our showrunner.
Speaker 1: I was just actually texting him a second ago. He
Speaker 1: was our showrunner and he's fabulous and he basically is
Speaker 1: the one who um um came up with fast and furious.
Speaker 1: He wrote this incredible article in script actually script from
Speaker 1: the article, and Um, I was so concerned about being
Speaker 1: too much like a model. I really wanted someone to
Speaker 1: take me serious, like really wanted. I can remember my
Speaker 1: audition outfit. I had jeans I were like a flip
Speaker 1: flop like a plane shoe, and like a camo T shirt.
Speaker 1: Like I looked as unexact sy and is unlike, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you are going to take me serious? And so I
Speaker 1: remember and they're like, oh, they really liked you. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh that's cool. Um, and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: they're just like a little bit worried that you came
Speaker 1: in like in a T shirt and jeans. I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: I want them to take me serious. And so so
Speaker 1: they were like they're not you're you're okay, like wearing
Speaker 1: dresses and he old and playing the character. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, totally. Um I had to change my accent
Speaker 1: to be to have more of a New York accent,
Speaker 1: which that took me a second, but I ended up
Speaker 1: getting it. And not only did I get it and
Speaker 1: get it, they were like right before the upfronts at
Speaker 1: the end of May or the middle of May, they
Speaker 1: were like, it's um, it's not a reoccurring, it's a
Speaker 1: series regular. And I was like, well, you know, They're like,
Speaker 1: don't worry, it's never gonna go. I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: I live half the time in Paris, so I don't
Speaker 1: really know, like this is probably not gonna work, but
Speaker 1: and there you go. It went for five five years.
Speaker 1: So do me a favorite, show me a New York accent?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, um god, I don't know now. Um
Speaker 1: it's more New York like just talking like a little
Speaker 1: bit deeper and a little bit you know, like a
Speaker 1: little bit lower, not like like it's my legs or well,
Speaker 1: you're in California from Kentucky, so I'm I I know.
Speaker 1: And Jimmy's was so strong, like once you and he was.
Speaker 1: He and Josh were the main ones that I mainly
Speaker 1: worked with. UM, but it was it was great. It
Speaker 1: was a great experience. I mean Jimmy Khan, I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, how like, how was he? You know what?
Speaker 1: He was an ass in the beginning. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: I left him. He was awful, and I think he
Speaker 1: was just trying to make me confident, and he was
Speaker 1: hard on us. He was hard on Josh. I mean,
Speaker 1: Josh was coming from all my children. I mean, here
Speaker 1: you are working with a soap star and a model,
Speaker 1: and then there's Jimmy con who's your iconic veteran of acting,
Speaker 1: and um. He would just say like, don't just don't
Speaker 1: do anything, just stand there. And he was like, well, however,
Speaker 1: I react, you react back to me, which I was
Speaker 1: used to because of Meisner, and he just you know,
Speaker 1: we had one blowout and that was it. He was
Speaker 1: the best of the best, and I became a great,
Speaker 1: pretty good, I think actor because of him. And he
Speaker 1: and I think Josh will say the same. He was tough,
Speaker 1: and but he was always like playing tennis with us.
Speaker 1: We never knew how he was going to do his lines.
Speaker 1: And because we never knew, we had we got to
Speaker 1: play and we got to do different things and he
Speaker 1: he no, he was just he was amazing and I
Speaker 1: really missed him and I'm sad he passed away. Well,
Speaker 1: thanks for sharing that, hearing all the things you've done.
Speaker 1: And now you've got this podcast with which I was
Speaker 1: lucky enough to be um asked to be on and
Speaker 1: that's how I got you. I'm i podcast. So that's
Speaker 1: great and I'm so happy. But like, you're someone that
Speaker 1: has like dealt and done so much, what do you
Speaker 1: do when you're having a moment where you just don't
Speaker 1: feel good? Like either you know, you're having a bad
Speaker 1: beauty moment, you're having a bad beauty month, you're having
Speaker 1: a bad beauty day. Like what do you What are
Speaker 1: your go to things that kind of help you get
Speaker 1: it back together? You know? I think I was so
Speaker 1: used to being always on that it took me a
Speaker 1: second when I started having babies. I ended up having
Speaker 1: a thyroid problem. When I had Brooks, I gained like
Speaker 1: eighties something pound and that really shook me. I think
Speaker 1: I wore my hair in a pony's heil so my
Speaker 1: face would look thinner for like, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: a year and a half. But I you know, I
Speaker 1: got used to not having to be so extreme. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, people don't realize that models wake up, they
Speaker 1: go to the gym, they eat healthy, they get to
Speaker 1: a spa, they work on them selves. They they they
Speaker 1: they're like an athlete, they're like a ballerina. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I have such admiration for the girls out
Speaker 1: there that do work so hard because it's not easy.
Speaker 1: They're constantly traveling, they're constantly under you can imagine so
Speaker 1: much pressure. And I think people don't realize how much
Speaker 1: some of the how much some of the girls go through.
Speaker 1: And I'm just so happy now that there is more
Speaker 1: inclusivity and you don't have to just be one size,
Speaker 1: one color like that has made such a difference. But
Speaker 1: I think, you know, falling off the wagon. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll I'll do like my little resets, I'll
Speaker 1: take my magnesium. I'll drink more water. Bobby Set on
Speaker 1: her podcast to me, She's like, you know something good,
Speaker 1: like I don't drink into water. I don't drink of water.
Speaker 1: I don't even like water. I mean I drink water
Speaker 1: with a straw because I drink more water if you
Speaker 1: use a straw, that's a little bit of a hack. Um.
Speaker 1: I do lemon. I love the Chroma Reset. I love
Speaker 1: a local woman here named Alyssa Goodman. She has an
Speaker 1: incredible great, like four day plan, I'll hone in, I'll walk,
Speaker 1: I'll get fresh air. Um. It's you know, it's not
Speaker 1: been easy the last a little bit. Yeah, and the
Speaker 1: and the point is for the women that are listening
Speaker 1: to this, like it happens to all of us as
Speaker 1: long as we just have to do it. But but
Speaker 1: you know, but people see people like you and say, oh,
Speaker 1: she's just got it going on and she's just one
Speaker 1: of those lucky ones. So I think you've been so
Speaker 1: outspoken about different things that you've dealt with and made things,
Speaker 1: you know, really more real. And I thank you for that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's when we started the beauty podcast. And
Speaker 1: you know, originally I know Anna's mind producer listening but
Speaker 1: dear me and he was like, yeah, I don't like
Speaker 1: who's Who's chef from New Jersey and she has three kids.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but this is the girl that I
Speaker 1: talked to five times a day. Know it's more about
Speaker 1: beauty than I probably do. Maybe not you, but this
Speaker 1: is what we love. We love bettering ourselves. We love
Speaker 1: being able to talk to you and like find out
Speaker 1: what you do, what you take, how you do it,
Speaker 1: how you wear it, And we are genuinely I think
Speaker 1: that's why our podcast has been so successful because we
Speaker 1: really either have an idea of what we want to
Speaker 1: talk about. Like you know, we had Jordan Geller, He's
Speaker 1: my inner chronologist, and we talked about thyroid and hormones
Speaker 1: and all the different things that can go wrong that
Speaker 1: you might be gaining weight, you might be losing hair,
Speaker 1: you might be losing sleep, like really digging down because
Speaker 1: we are the listener as well going through it, and
Speaker 1: we genuinely do love helping women, Like as much as
Speaker 1: I can sit and talk to you, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that. And I didn't take my
Speaker 1: magnesium citrate last night. I'm like, I'm going to make
Speaker 1: sure and do that. You know, I love some of
Speaker 1: the things you talk about with fish oil, and those
Speaker 1: are the same things like we do. You know. I'm
Speaker 1: I've recently gone back to acupuncture. I UM go to
Speaker 1: see a woman named Dr Jan and she's incredible. UM
Speaker 1: and I drink these herbs that tastes like dirt, and
Speaker 1: I literally it's like chasing a tequila with like lime
Speaker 1: or lemon, like I have. It tastes so bad. But
Speaker 1: she was like, your cheese off, Like you're off. You've
Speaker 1: had some bad things happen. You've that has been incredible. Um.
Speaker 1: I breathing, Yeah, how's that going. Well, it's it's going,
Speaker 1: it's going, it's it's going. I'm learning to to breathe
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Um, and do meditate. I'm drawing Bobby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't meditate, So I don't meditate, And trying a
Speaker 1: breathing I think is really boring. But I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying. I recently in backt the therapy, you know,
Speaker 1: I just you know, trying like do you have these moments? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, and yeah, and it's a conversation and honestly,
Speaker 1: so thank you for your podcast, and it's it is.
Speaker 1: It's a conversation. And honestly, we're here not to be
Speaker 1: in competition of each other, but to help each other
Speaker 1: and support each other because you know, not all women
Speaker 1: are you know, the great support you need, so you know,
Speaker 1: and I always find that so strange. I remember, and
Speaker 1: I'm still going to take you up on it, but
Speaker 1: I remember I was like, oh, I'm thinking about starting something.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if you ever need any help, just
Speaker 1: call me. And I looked at you and You're like, no,
Speaker 1: I mean it, just call me. Did you ever start anything?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm about it, and like three or four months,
Speaker 1: hopefully I'm working out a little bit of a trademark thing.
Speaker 1: But um, it's I don't know why women don't I
Speaker 1: you know, I love I think my mom was phenomenal
Speaker 1: at building women up. I mean she had had a
Speaker 1: conversation in a Piggy Wiggly or a kmart or a Walmart,
Speaker 1: and she would cut, you know, and that person would
Speaker 1: come out of there like learning that. She walked form
Speaker 1: all the day. Here's what you can do too. It's
Speaker 1: for your skin and castor oil and all olive oil,
Speaker 1: and here's what you can do for your you know.
Speaker 1: She just she was that person. Yeah, well you're you're lucky.
Speaker 1: And how about your dad? What did he do? Um?
Speaker 1: He was amazing or he has he is amazing. He's
Speaker 1: still I've um he um. He's now living in Miami.
Speaker 1: My parents UM had a hosteal book company called Southeastern
Speaker 1: Book Company, and they would my dad would be that
Speaker 1: guy at the end of the year and he would
Speaker 1: buy back your book and he'd be like, here's ten
Speaker 1: dollars and the student would be like, but I paid
Speaker 1: thirty and he'd be like, I know, but your professor
Speaker 1: wants another edition, so that you're on another edition. So
Speaker 1: he was the guy who would actually buy back the books.
Speaker 1: He had a massive hosteal book business. And he used
Speaker 1: to work for a company called Follet, which, as you
Speaker 1: know it now is called Barnes and Noble. So he
Speaker 1: was very prolific and early on and leaving and starting
Speaker 1: his own company me and then they had a paper
Speaker 1: recycling company. UM, they were just yeah, they're amazing. And
Speaker 1: do you work out? Do you exercise? I mean your California?
Speaker 1: Of course, you know I do. And I'm probably at
Speaker 1: the time this podcast is air, I will have had
Speaker 1: my back surgery. I'm having an L five S one
Speaker 1: disc replacement. I'm actually saying it out loud. I um,
Speaker 1: seven days until I'm doing it. I was supposed to
Speaker 1: do it last year. I you know, everybody always says
Speaker 1: you don't want to have back surgery unless you need it.
Speaker 1: Well after about a year and a half, I do
Speaker 1: need it. I have a bulging disc. I actually met
Speaker 1: my with my back doctor yesterday and and he was like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be You're gonna be an happen in Stallar.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm probably the only person. And I
Speaker 1: was like, it's fine, like someone else would love it,
Speaker 1: but I really I really do need it. I I
Speaker 1: have missed and I think that's probably ultimately that has,
Speaker 1: you know, caused me to be a little bit down
Speaker 1: working out. I actually really like it. It's helps it
Speaker 1: helps me with my mind and my head and not
Speaker 1: being able to has Really it's fine, you know when
Speaker 1: you're in COVID, but I don't know. I just have
Speaker 1: the recovery. What did they tell you? It's not much
Speaker 1: of a recovery. It's a it's a month of walking.
Speaker 1: And so it's it's I need it. I know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it. Dr Gay and hopefully we'll have him
Speaker 1: on the podcast and he can say save my life
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna walk again. I'm not gonna plete to
Speaker 1: death and all the things that I'm worry about. But um,
Speaker 1: I do need it, and I love working out. Um,
Speaker 1: I love pilates. I have to say I agree with
Speaker 1: Bobby on multiple of things. But she said on my
Speaker 1: podcast for the younger women listening, watch the aerobic because
Speaker 1: you think it does things, it also can hurt things.
Speaker 1: And for someone who would not lift a two pound
Speaker 1: away eight um, weights are really important. And I know
Speaker 1: Molly sims is sitting here saying this on Poppy Brown's podcast.
Speaker 1: That's gonna get picked up all over, but weights are
Speaker 1: really important and not a lot of weight, but strength
Speaker 1: training really does make a difference. It doesn't make you bulk,
Speaker 1: it doesn't. You know, everything in moderation, but that is
Speaker 1: one thing more if you have muscle on your body.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it is really important. Well, Molly, I just
Speaker 1: love talking to you. I love seeing you. It was
Speaker 1: really fun seeing you. I think was it during the
Speaker 1: pandemic and it was yet at that crazy party, but um,
Speaker 1: it was really fun. But I have a last question
Speaker 1: that I ask all my guests people listening, and I
Speaker 1: cannot wait to hear your answer. If you could tell
Speaker 1: everyone listening, what's the one thing that you could tell
Speaker 1: them that they're they heard from Molly Simps. It's going
Speaker 1: to change the course of their life or something in
Speaker 1: their day today, what would it be be okay with change?
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. You
Speaker 1: gotta change. If you don't change, you can get really stuck,
Speaker 1: you know, how you go into something and how you
Speaker 1: get out of something. You've got to be okay with
Speaker 1: change because change happened. Change can happen for the good,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, change can happen for the bad. And
Speaker 1: you have to some of the best opportunities I've gotten,
Speaker 1: and I was really afraid when I was young. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't I can't do this. I don't want don't
Speaker 1: want to go to Vaannerable. I don't want to leave
Speaker 1: you and then to go to Vannerable. Like I can't
Speaker 1: leave Vanderbilt. And what are you talking about? Like I'm
Speaker 1: a try helt, Like what I mean? Like I have
Speaker 1: no business? Like yes, I collect every Vogue seventeen. Why
Speaker 1: am very clear? Like, but I can't go to New York.
Speaker 1: I can't live in Europe. So turn your camp into
Speaker 1: a can and don't be afraid to change something and
Speaker 1: it might not work and got to change it again. Um,
Speaker 1: but I do think that is a real thing with
Speaker 1: my success as being able to change and to pivot
Speaker 1: and to and be curious. Kind of goes back to
Speaker 1: what you said, be interested in your world, be interested
Speaker 1: in other people. You know someone the other day we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't get invited to your anniversary, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to you in a year. You know,
Speaker 1: I go, You've got to deposit a little bit in
Speaker 1: the bank. I mean, the bank will come back. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what I've done really really well with
Speaker 1: my friends and my family. I deposit in the bank
Speaker 1: and I give back, and I think those little nuggets
Speaker 1: of advice that I can give have really made a
Speaker 1: difference in my life. Thank you such good advice. And
Speaker 1: I will be thinking about you on your surgery and
Speaker 1: after so good health. Good health. And I love the
Speaker 1: Jones Road. I mean, I'm obsessed and I don't know
Speaker 1: that I agree with your son has it really is
Speaker 1: the best blush. I'm like the best, and I love
Speaker 1: I love the names. I think they're just a second
Speaker 1: is fabulous. Well, thank you and thank you for always
Speaker 1: You're so nice. I always send you things and you
Speaker 1: always post them same for you. Thank you. I appreciate
Speaker 1: it all right, Thanks Bobby, a good lunch by you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Follow us on social at The Important
Speaker 1: Things Podcast on Instagram, and just Bobby Brown on TikTok.
Speaker 1: See you guys next time.