WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #39

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<v Speaker 1>Old media.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yep, yep, it's it could happen here electile.

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<v Speaker 3>Disorder executive disorder, which is our weekly newscast, which we've

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<v Speaker 3>been doing all year, so we should we should know

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<v Speaker 3>what it's called by now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why I'm so good at doing it, naming it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>This show covers what's happening in the White House, the

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<v Speaker 3>crumbling world, and what it means for you and me

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<v Speaker 3>and everyone else. I'm Garrison Davis. This episode, I'm joined

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<v Speaker 3>by Robert Evans, James Stout, and Maya Wong, and we

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<v Speaker 3>are covering the week of October twenty second to October thirtieth. Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think we should start off the bat by

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<v Speaker 5>with the same thing we started off last week with,

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<v Speaker 5>which is that as your Halloween. Yeah, well that on

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<v Speaker 5>the upside weed woo spooky. On the downside, forty million

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<v Speaker 5>people lose, lose, there's not benefits the next day on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but what's spookier than that. Look, one thing you

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<v Speaker 2>can't say about the government is that they're not failing

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<v Speaker 2>to celebrate the holiday.

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<v Speaker 6>I am scared of the consequences.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, stock up on the trigger treater candy.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, steal as much candy as you can get.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to need it to stay alive.

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<v Speaker 6>See a group of children, you run past him.

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<v Speaker 4>Kick them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh their kids. They can't stop you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep. Hold it above your head. They can't reach it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it is. It is extremely grim, and there seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be no indication from the Republicans of the Trump

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<v Speaker 3>administration that they are going to work with the Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>to resolve this without sacrificing health care for millions of Americans.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. So, Gavin Newsom, a friend of the show, has

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<v Speaker 6>deployed the California National God to assist food banks and estate.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, look, the thing is, when you participate in the

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<v Speaker 6>largest crackdown unprotected First Amendments beach in recent history, you

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<v Speaker 6>don't get to show up and hand out snacks and

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<v Speaker 6>feel good. And many food banks, including some in the

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<v Speaker 6>Bay Area, have refused the help of National Guard members

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<v Speaker 6>right because they have this very obvious concern that some

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<v Speaker 6>people might be reluctant to go to places where the

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<v Speaker 6>soldiers who are standing right next to all the different

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<v Speaker 6>immigration agents in la are now working, and so this

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<v Speaker 6>will have the opposite of a positive effect in those

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<v Speaker 6>instances right, people who are afraid to go to food

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<v Speaker 6>banks are going to remain hungry. The consequences of this

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<v Speaker 6>will be negative. The issue, I don't think is a

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<v Speaker 6>lack of person power. The issue is a lack of funding.

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<v Speaker 6>The state has mobilized eighty million dollars in funds, but

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<v Speaker 6>millions of Californians will be going hungry. And because of

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<v Speaker 6>the failure of state authorities to stop federal authorities deploying

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<v Speaker 6>the National Guard to LA and other areas where immigration

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<v Speaker 6>enforcement was happening, this stunt that Newsman is going for

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<v Speaker 6>could have very negative consequences for for food banks and

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<v Speaker 6>for Californians who are hungry. Something sick and cool you

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<v Speaker 6>can do if you have the means and the time

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<v Speaker 6>is to pick up food from food banks for people

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<v Speaker 6>who need it. A lot of people might be concerned.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the biggest problems is how much food banks

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<v Speaker 3>get food also through these programs, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I mean support. Yeah, food banks themselves are

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<v Speaker 6>going to be struggling right now. So like I actually

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<v Speaker 6>I did a thread on lib on blue Sky where

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<v Speaker 6>were you going to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Lived Twitter? And then corrected to blue Sky.

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<v Speaker 6>I was going to say lib Sky. Yeah. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>fact checked myself. It's blue Wave Sky.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>You cannot get that past me. I could pick up

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<v Speaker 3>on what you were doing, Garrison Davis like a viper struck. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>at the core of my thought process. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you're on, if you're Skeeita, then you can

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<v Speaker 6>you can find their threader made I link get in

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<v Speaker 6>the show notes with food banks that are looking for donations,

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<v Speaker 6>and you can also use that to find a food

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<v Speaker 6>bank in your area if you're interested in that. But yet,

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<v Speaker 6>this is a serious problem. This is the should be

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<v Speaker 6>the biggest news story. I'm thinking particularly of those folks

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<v Speaker 6>in Alaska right who found themselves as climate refugees due

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<v Speaker 6>to this storm right which flooded their villages and now

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<v Speaker 6>not only facing the loss of their villages and their homes,

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<v Speaker 6>but also all their cached food. These are people who

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<v Speaker 6>often would have hunted or fished or relied on storing

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<v Speaker 6>food for the winter, and now finding themselves unable to

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<v Speaker 6>access federal benefits.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing the thing that like, there's a representative. Clay Higgins

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<v Speaker 2>of Louisiana made a tweet today blaming snap recipients for

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<v Speaker 2>not stockpiling a month's worth of food.

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<v Speaker 6>Does he understand how this works?

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<v Speaker 2>He said, try to get your head wrapped around how

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<v Speaker 2>many pantries you can start with forty two hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what people get on average per year. He says,

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<v Speaker 2>with Snap benefits in properly shopped groceries. Any American who's

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<v Speaker 2>been receiving forty two hundred dollars per year of free

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<v Speaker 2>groceries and does not have at least one month of

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<v Speaker 2>grocery stock should never again receive Snap because wow, stop

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<v Speaker 2>smoking crack.

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<v Speaker 3>That's inhumane.

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<v Speaker 2>Dealing with the shit that they talk about is almost

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<v Speaker 2>pointless because they're all liars. But like h as like

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<v Speaker 2>what you said, Like people are on Snap for a

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<v Speaker 2>wide variety of reasons. They're largely employed. They're just not

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<v Speaker 2>getting enough money to actually like survive and feed their family.

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<v Speaker 2>And like, the forty two hundred dollars a year for

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<v Speaker 2>a family is not in fact enough to stockpile a

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<v Speaker 2>huge quantity of food.

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<v Speaker 6>No, it's not like it's remarkable how totach the people

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<v Speaker 6>who make our laws off from Yeah, the working class experience.

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<v Speaker 5>There is no way that guy knows how much of

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<v Speaker 5>banana costs.

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<v Speaker 2>No way, zero, He has no idea that man isn't

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<v Speaker 2>shopped for himself in fucking twenty years.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah they I does not know how much it

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<v Speaker 6>cost to buy now mac and cheese for your kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously you know we hear we talk about storing food,

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<v Speaker 2>about canning your own food, and there are things you

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<v Speaker 2>can do even on a budget when you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>much money to build a stockpile. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>encourage people to pay attention to things like prices at

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<v Speaker 2>the grocery store when things are a lot cheaper because

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<v Speaker 2>they're in season, and learn how to do things like

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<v Speaker 2>pressure can right and pickle different foods. You want it,

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<v Speaker 2>because there are ways that you can. And this is why, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not because you should be doing that or your irresponsible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because we even when it comes to the social

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<v Speaker 2>safety net, you know that we have what little of

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<v Speaker 2>one that we have. You can't rely on it because

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<v Speaker 2>at any given point it could become a fucking fucking

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<v Speaker 2>football for Democrats and Republicans to fight over and go away. Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>none of this stuff is reliable, which is why people

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<v Speaker 2>ought to, if it's at all possible, be doing stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that, right, Not because they should have to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But because you cannot rely on the government, right. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't say that as like a critique of people

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<v Speaker 2>or to like shit on people. It's just like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a fact. It's the fact that people need to increasingly

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<v Speaker 2>accept because this is not going to be getting better

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<v Speaker 2>in the long run. Yeah, let's talk about Graham Plattner.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Oh god, I do so to touch politicians.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of weeks ago, James brought up Graham Plattner,

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<v Speaker 2>who is running for Congress in Maine, and some ads

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<v Speaker 2>that he had put out which were really and I

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<v Speaker 2>still think are really good ads, good ads in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of they were effective objectively. He raised a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>He was leading in the polls prior to us. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about a bunch of scandals coming out. He's no

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<v Speaker 2>longer leading, but he was doing very well for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>So his campaign, the strategy that he was following, which

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<v Speaker 2>was largely a mix of talking about and really pushing

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<v Speaker 2>investments in social programs and particularly healthcare, and attacking the

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<v Speaker 2>billionaire class in very stark terms. Talked about they need

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<v Speaker 2>to effectively get rid of that as a group of people,

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<v Speaker 2>like tax them out of existence. That's a popular you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and and and a good thing to campaign on. And

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<v Speaker 2>the success that he had early on is evidence that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of legs to talking about that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff and the way that he did, and he

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<v Speaker 2>talked about in a very combative way. Right, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>was a former marine, some sort of fisherman. I think

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<v Speaker 2>whatever kind of he's fisherman. I think it's an oyster

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<v Speaker 2>farmer or some shit whatever. They have a that nonsense

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<v Speaker 2>state Sorry Maynites.

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<v Speaker 6>They called maniacs. Technically, I think they're called maners. That

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<v Speaker 6>copy right Garrison.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was coming across as a very like blue

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<v Speaker 2>collar guy, right, like a very and kind of crude

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<v Speaker 2>but crewed in a like I'm a straight talker sort

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<v Speaker 2>of guy. And that worked that that was a good campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>and we highlighted that because I think it struck you know,

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<v Speaker 2>James is the one who brought it to our attention,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it struck all of us as, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a guy who was kind of doing talking

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<v Speaker 2>to voters in a way that we wish more Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>were right, and then in the last couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>oh god, so many scamps come out about this guy,

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<v Speaker 2>the most well known of them as that for the

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<v Speaker 2>last twenty years of his life he has had a

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<v Speaker 2>totin cough tattooed over his pectoral that is the Death's Head. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it dates back before the Nazis. It was a niche.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this was the very first use

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<v Speaker 2>of it, but the very first prominent use of it

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<v Speaker 2>in military history was as the insignia for a unit

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<v Speaker 2>called the Death'shead Hussars, which was an elite German cavalry unit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure I think they did still exist

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<v Speaker 2>in World War One, but they were that was well

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<v Speaker 2>past their prime. And it was then adopted by the SS,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was it was worn by a number, by

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys in the SS, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>specifically the insignia of a unit called the totenkof SS,

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<v Speaker 2>which existed to guard concentration camps and death camps. So

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<v Speaker 2>having one tattooed on you bad, Yeah, not cool. Platner

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<v Speaker 2>has said, basically, it was a dumb tattoo I got

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<v Speaker 2>when I was young and just joining the Marine Corps,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't know what it meant. And I am

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<v Speaker 2>willing to believe that like a nineteen year old who

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<v Speaker 2>joins the Marines would make a bad tattoo decision because

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of friends that were in the

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<v Speaker 2>Marines and they all have bad tattoos, right, none of

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<v Speaker 2>them have Death's Heads.

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<v Speaker 3>So you got it well, in like Croatia drunk, Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was hammered, and yeah, the probability of walking

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<v Speaker 3>into a tattoo shop in Croatia and coming out with

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<v Speaker 3>a Nazi tattoo is extremely high.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, Yeah, it's not low. Yeah, Yeah, they're on the

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<v Speaker 6>flash seat for Friday the thirteenth. They probably are.

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<v Speaker 2>If it had just come out that he'd had this

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<v Speaker 2>for some period of time, being like, yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 2>like I was hammered in Croatia and I got a

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<v Speaker 2>fucked up tattoo and realized it and got it covered.

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<v Speaker 2>I had it been like not a story, right, like

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<v Speaker 2>man gets bad tattoos, dumb kid. But number one, he

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<v Speaker 2>kept it until he got it covered in like the

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<v Speaker 2>last week or so.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, tell you that was a real piece of odd

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<v Speaker 6>that he covered it with, which is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Wild choice to just keep it for that long. But

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<v Speaker 2>also he claimed I had no idea until it came

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<v Speaker 2>out as a story because I forget what outlet, but

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<v Speaker 2>some news outlet found out that he had it and

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<v Speaker 2>was going to publish it.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think his team told Pod Save America when

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<v Speaker 6>he went on the PUD Save America pod.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, but he had heard that there was opposition research.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, because he had sent out to like another

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<v Speaker 5>thing that he went on, like a picture of him

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<v Speaker 5>with his shirt off, and they were like wait, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there were a few of them floating around.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 6>If you've lived that kind of life, there's going to

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<v Speaker 6>be pitched of you with the shirt off, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like they refusing to acknowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I knew earlier in my life that it was

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<v Speaker 2>a death's head. And like there's reports from people who

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<v Speaker 2>knew him that he called it a tote cough and

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<v Speaker 2>joked about it.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll me be clear, I don't actually think that Graham

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<v Speaker 2>is a secret Nazi sleeper agent. I really don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's a guy with really questionable judgment, which is reason,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to be very critical of his campaign. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I take a lot of issue with how he's responded

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<v Speaker 2>to this because rather than again just kind of doing

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<v Speaker 2>a mea polpa he's gone on the this is my

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<v Speaker 2>enemies in the Democratic Party to silence me thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>a very weird coalition has propped up kind of around him,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to argue that this is a circular firing squad

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<v Speaker 2>kind of deal. Like there was a Jacobin article being like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fucked up that people are going after Graham, and

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<v Speaker 2>the pod Save guys are defending him, like it is

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<v Speaker 2>a weird coalition that's circling around this fella.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think that Joe Rogan of the Left meant?

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<v Speaker 3>Vibes essays.

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<v Speaker 6>We wanted a guy who took loads of steroids and

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<v Speaker 6>didn't have problematic opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never gonna say this in any other instance about

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Rogan, but he wouldn't have gotten that tattoo because

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<v Speaker 2>he knows what a death's hit.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he knew in like two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and seven or what. I think there's a very strong

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<v Speaker 3>alternate world where two thousand and seven, Joe Rogan is

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<v Speaker 3>traveling a total accidentally gets a com tattoo.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not impossible. You're right, You're right. I guess I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just assuming he's watched enough World War two documentaries to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but watching those will like smoking weeds, so he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't remember anything that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>These are fair points you're making, Garrison. So a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of surprising things about this, And this is not the

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<v Speaker 2>only scandal it's kind of come out about him recently,

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<v Speaker 2>but at number one, it did not immediately take a

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<v Speaker 2>strong hit to his polling. This seems to be prilmarily

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<v Speaker 2>just because a lot of voters aren't aware of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because in poles where they at where they informed people

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<v Speaker 2>that he had a Nazi tattoo, his support drops dramatically

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<v Speaker 2>by like thirty points. That said he was leading until

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<v Speaker 2>like two or three days ago, I think was the

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<v Speaker 2>most recent poll that came out that had a main governor,

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<v Speaker 2>Janet Mills, in the lead above him. We're not talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the main race yet. This is we're still in

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<v Speaker 2>the primary, right, so he's challenging Janet Mills for the primary.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, And yeah, at.

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<v Speaker 2>Present, according to so called strategies who did a pole

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<v Speaker 2>very recently and it's the most recent poll, Mills has

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<v Speaker 2>forty one percent from likely voters and Platner has thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent, although about a fifth of respondents are undecided.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, this is a pretty dramatic upset because prior

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<v Speaker 2>to the whole Nazi tattoo news coming out, Platner was

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<v Speaker 2>leading Mills by about thirty four points. So this has

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<v Speaker 2>gone from Platner looked to have it in the bag

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<v Speaker 2>to it's pretty close. Mills is ahead, not by a

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<v Speaker 2>lead that's so commanding that it's a definite thing. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a standard polling error could have them basically be neck

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<v Speaker 2>and neck, and we all should know at this point

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<v Speaker 2>how frequently that kind of stuff happens.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, polling never wrong. But yeah, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those somebody angry at us on the

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<v Speaker 2>subredit being like, I can't believe they're hiding that like

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<v Speaker 2>this has happened, you know, with this guy that they

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<v Speaker 2>endorse like that we did endorse him and number two

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<v Speaker 2>like this, this shit was breaking. When we were recording

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<v Speaker 2>the ed last week, we made like a reference about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but not much had come out, and there certainly hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>been time for us to really look into what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on here. And it's not this is a main

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<v Speaker 2>Senate primary, and this is not like the very top

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<v Speaker 2>of our list of crucial things to hit. The second

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<v Speaker 2>it happens. We can wait on something like this to

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<v Speaker 2>see how stuffs shaking out a little bit. No one's

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<v Speaker 2>voting yet, so it's not like we're influencing the election

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<v Speaker 2>by not coming out or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like we only get to come so much. We

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<v Speaker 6>have one hour of like news round Up show a week,

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<v Speaker 6>and they the Blue Sky Twitter drama about Grand Plannery

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<v Speaker 6>is not as important as the fact that millions of

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<v Speaker 6>people are losing that food this week. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that is interesting, and I do think this

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<v Speaker 2>is an important race just because of kind of what

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<v Speaker 2>it says about what sort of strategies are working now

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<v Speaker 2>and igniting the base, and what kind of stuff does

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<v Speaker 2>matter in terms of scandals. I think there are some

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<v Speaker 2>things that are really relevant here. One thing that is

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to me is that, according to a poll, very

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<v Speaker 2>recent poll, the article came in October twenty sixth, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five, majority of young Democrats still back grand Platner

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<v Speaker 2>even after the whole tattoo thing. And this is really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to me because the data shows that in general,

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<v Speaker 2>among likely voters, his potential support plummets when people are

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<v Speaker 2>made aware that he had the tattoo, but young Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>are by far the group most likely to have become

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<v Speaker 2>aware of it as soon as the story broke, because

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<v Speaker 2>young people are much more online than older people, and

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<v Speaker 2>among young people he's still well ahead, which I really

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<v Speaker 2>just do think speaks more than anything to the strength of.

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<v Speaker 3>The rhetoric he has been using.

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<v Speaker 2>The platform that he came out the gate with. It's

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<v Speaker 2>and the rhetoric right, his combative rhetoric is really attractive

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<v Speaker 2>to young voters, especially.

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<v Speaker 6>Explain you a generation to us, garrison, why you like this?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, these are a lot of stuff that the

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<v Speaker 3>Zoron campaign kind of like ignited around, Yeah you're you're

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<v Speaker 3>right exactly rhetoric. And then you know, Sanders and AOC

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<v Speaker 3>had their like anti oligarchy tour, which I mean, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't need to like debate like the use of like

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<v Speaker 3>that term. But no, there there isn't a huge frustration

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<v Speaker 3>at the geriatric Democratic Party, and this sort of populis

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<v Speaker 3>rhetoric is very popular among young people as it as

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<v Speaker 3>it has been since the Sanders campaign in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't like new a revolutionary information. The fact that

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<v Speaker 3>this guy has gotten to this point has gotten either

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<v Speaker 3>past scandals where it's navigating through it, despite his like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, very questionable background and military and uh military

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<v Speaker 3>private contracting, his like misogynistic Reddit posts which were unearthed

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<v Speaker 3>as as like an attack against him, which I think

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<v Speaker 3>he actually handled that scandal fairly well, using it as

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<v Speaker 3>a parallel to chart his own political journey. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I can understand why a whole bunch of young people

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<v Speaker 3>who are reading about this aren't going to actually care

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<v Speaker 3>at all about any of these stories and still vote

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<v Speaker 3>for him because of what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I want to be clear, I didn't bring

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<v Speaker 2>this up because think it's bad even that, like young

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<v Speaker 2>people are still supporting him. I think this is something

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<v Speaker 2>that people, especially in the Democratic Party, who care about winning.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's people on the left who are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to look at what can we do to get

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<v Speaker 2>more progressive and combative candidates who are going to do

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<v Speaker 2>something both about the right and about the billionaire class.

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<v Speaker 2>What can we do to actually like win. You should

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<v Speaker 2>be paying attention to this because this this rhetoric works.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and because surely there's one other guy who can

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<v Speaker 3>say these things. You can find one person who could

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<v Speaker 3>use rhetoric, is good on camera and has not had

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<v Speaker 3>a total CoV tattooed on their chest for almost twenty years. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And also the most wild part about this I don't

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<v Speaker 5>even think is that it's that this guy was in

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<v Speaker 5>Blackwater like Sonid's constell Us, but he calls it Blackwater.

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<v Speaker 2>He was, yeah, that's the other scandals. Please, let's let's Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>He deployed to Afghanistan for Blackwater in twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight their first Shrug administration.

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<v Speaker 5>No one at any point in this process went, hold on, wait,

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<v Speaker 5>this guy went to fight in Afghanistan, like in twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighteen, Like, yeah, they prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 5>The guys from Nisar Square, Yeah, from the Sour Square massacre. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>after the square, Like those people got prosecuted four years

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<v Speaker 5>before that.

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<v Speaker 3>And he joined Blackwater in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>And to be clear, because this is something James brought

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<v Speaker 2>up when we talked about this in our chat previously,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't technically join Blackwater because Blackwater has changed its

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<v Speaker 2>name and I think merged for a couple of countries.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a culprit name. But to be fair to me, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>he's all that. He said that for Blackwater. There's a

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<v Speaker 6>way in which like, I'm okay with people fucking up

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<v Speaker 6>if they acknowledge they funked up, right, Like, I'm okay

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<v Speaker 6>with him saying I did this and it was wrong,

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<v Speaker 6>so I left and I regret doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that that is what he's saying, though it

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<v Speaker 3>was specifically after this deployment. Yes, that this is where

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<v Speaker 3>he says that, like this marked his like politicalticalization or

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<v Speaker 3>like yeah, during the path of like how he viewed

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<v Speaker 3>his life in politics specifically was negative experiences during this deployment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And I guess that is something I have

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<v Speaker 2>really complicated opinions on because I'm I'm not and I

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<v Speaker 2>really have a lot of issues with folks on the

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<v Speaker 2>left who are like anyone who was ever in the military.

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<v Speaker 6>Is forever baby cal and deeply.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think that's yeah, deeply, deeply unseerious and incredibly counterproductive.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't I think that, like it's good that

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<v Speaker 2>someone can do something as fucked up as joined Blackwater

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<v Speaker 2>and realized that they did a horrible thing and change.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe doing it in twenty eighteen is too recently for

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<v Speaker 2>me to want him in Congress as a progressive.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was like that was it was like a

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<v Speaker 5>decade after like he was one of the So he

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't one of.

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<v Speaker 3>The like the torture guards.

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<v Speaker 5>But no, no, like when he was a marine, he gard

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<v Speaker 5>he was like one of the guys.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like assigned to guard Aubu Grab.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think, yeah, the torture.

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<v Speaker 3>Scandal, but it's it's like it took you. It took

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<v Speaker 3>you like a decade after that. Yeah, is that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the thing I'm doing is bad? Like I just I

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<v Speaker 3>just oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, And that's that's kind of like the because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, you know, I don't think having been stationed

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<v Speaker 2>to guard a place where horrible thing like war crimes

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<v Speaker 2>were committed necessarily damns you forever, because like you don't

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<v Speaker 2>choose where you're stationed at guard. Who knows when he

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<v Speaker 2>became aware what was going on in the he was guarding,

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<v Speaker 2>but at some point he did and that wasn't like

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<v Speaker 2>the moment where he was like, ah fuck, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I again, I have a lot of friends. I

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<v Speaker 2>have friends who were with the very first infantry unit

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<v Speaker 2>into Iraq, one of whom as they were invading, was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know this is criminal guys, right, you know we're

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<v Speaker 2>breaking you know, this is fucked up. You know this,

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<v Speaker 2>this war's bullshit. Pat Tillman was saying that, right, like

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<v Speaker 2>Derry and the invasions this guy shot out in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's like it took him. It took a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>it took him reasonably long time.

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<v Speaker 5>And also when you read his interviews about it, he's like,

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<v Speaker 5>I did it because it was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is just like, that's that's honest.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's honest. It makes me insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I mean, that's that's why people join the Marines

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<v Speaker 2>as they like money and or they're adrenaline jokies.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, I'd rather he was honest about that shit. Actually,

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<v Speaker 6>like I I am.

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<v Speaker 3>It is just like distressing.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually like that. And again I do kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like because there's not a there's not a perfect answers

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<v Speaker 2>to like, well, when should you have had a change

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<v Speaker 2>of heart about something like this before you can like

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<v Speaker 2>be trusted as a political leader on the left. And

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't really know. I think I would be

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<v Speaker 2>inclined to be like give him the benefit of the

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<v Speaker 2>doubt on that stuff more if it weren't for the

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<v Speaker 2>not yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Pleasure shift out with plug eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all those things together are kind of sketchy.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe do a couple of tours as a dog catcher.

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<v Speaker 2>First, Like, you know, I'm seeing a lot of because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a whole lot of like, well, no one else

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<v Speaker 2>who has a chance of winning in Maine is supporting

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<v Speaker 2>the progressive policies he is. You know, you can't have

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<v Speaker 2>it all be perfect or whatever he's you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>should at least hope that he gets in and he

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<v Speaker 2>does the things he's saying. And I guess, like, if

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<v Speaker 2>he does get elected, and it's not the most likely

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<v Speaker 2>thing right now, but it's certainly impossible, I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>hope he does the good stuff he says that he's done.

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<v Speaker 2>I just have a lot less faith in that, given

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<v Speaker 2>both what's come out and his reaction to it.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, it's his reaction to it. It was really disqualifying, right, Like, right,

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<v Speaker 6>there's a world I guess I didn't know that he

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<v Speaker 6>told people it was a total cough. That's pretty fucking incriminating.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, there's reports from people who have said that

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's unclear, Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>There's reports, got it.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know objectively, but people have talked to the

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<v Speaker 2>press who knew him and said that he described it

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<v Speaker 2>as a total cough to them several years ago.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, yeah, if his response had been like, oh fuck,

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know, let me get that covered up immediately.

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<v Speaker 6>That his response was so bad to defend it and

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<v Speaker 6>to be like there's a conspiracy against it, really bad.

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<v Speaker 6>It's that failure. And it also just shows like a

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<v Speaker 6>lack of judgment and lack of ability to be critical

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<v Speaker 6>of his own actions, which is worrying.

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<v Speaker 2>It shows the kind of Trumpian fancifulness that really worries me.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, damn it, gugaury kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of populists are like this, like this is

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<v Speaker 3>this is a part of populis. Yes, yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think you can fully decouple it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably true, Garrison. Yeah, that's probably true. But I

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm not gonna tell you how to vote.

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<v Speaker 2>I've made a habit of never telling people how to vote.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're in Maine, enjoy your mc lobster and

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<v Speaker 2>do whatever your heart tells you. It's the right thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do, my friend. But also, please don't eat a

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<v Speaker 2>mc lobster there. It's clearly poisoned, you know, avoid avoid

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<v Speaker 2>a m mc lobster's at all costs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, buy an oyster in today the strongest endorsement Robert

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<v Speaker 3>I thinks can make.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, is it not? By a mc lobster.

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<v Speaker 2>Avoid a mc lobster at all costs.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're on the West coast, avoid shellfish. And in

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<v Speaker 6>some months it all costs because you can get paralytic

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<v Speaker 6>shellfish poison.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean some people that's just basically getting

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<v Speaker 2>free muscle relaxers games.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's do it, ad break from us or at accerts. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, we are back of Can I do my

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<v Speaker 3>Halloween ice Nazi? Sure? Bevino segment? Is that how you

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<v Speaker 3>say his name? Bavino?

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<v Speaker 6>Greg? Yeah? Greg Green?

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like a Bavino to me. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>talk about him playing dress up and how border patrol

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<v Speaker 3>disrupted a Halloween parade. So last weekend, while conducting an

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<v Speaker 3>immigration enforcement RAINE border patrol disrupted the root of a

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<v Speaker 3>children's Halloween parade in Old Irving Park in Chicago, using

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<v Speaker 3>tear gas and arresting several people, including two US citizens.

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<v Speaker 3>A crowd gathered around after a border patrol arrested a

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five year old construction worker who has lived in

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<v Speaker 3>Chicago since he was four years old. Jesus neighborhood residents

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<v Speaker 3>said that federal agents then deployed tear gas without warning.

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<v Speaker 3>That following Tuesday, the architect of Operation Midway Blitz, Greg Bavino,

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<v Speaker 3>appeared in a federal courts as part of a lawsuit

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<v Speaker 3>alleging excessive force and violations of a tro restricting the

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<v Speaker 3>use of tear gas and crowd control munitions. Bavino seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be flagrantly violating this tro as he was photographed

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<v Speaker 3>personally throwing a tear guest canister into a crowd in

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<v Speaker 3>October twenty second during a raid on a laundromat and

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<v Speaker 3>home depot. The DHS says that protesters are throwing rocks

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<v Speaker 3>and Border Patrol issued warnings, though this account is contradicted

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<v Speaker 3>by video of the incident. US District Judge Sarah Ellis

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<v Speaker 3>told the Border Patrol chief quote, kids dressed in Halloween

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<v Speaker 3>costumes walking to a parade do not pose an immediate

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<v Speaker 3>threat to the safety of law enforcement officers. They just don't,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can't use riot control weapons against them. This

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<v Speaker 3>trol requires that crowd controlmmunitions may only be used as

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<v Speaker 3>someone posed as an immediate threat to law enforcement, with

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<v Speaker 3>agents instructed to give two verbal warnings before tear gas

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<v Speaker 3>pepper spray can be deployed, and to wear body cams, badges,

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<v Speaker 3>or visible ideas. This order was issued on October ninth.

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<v Speaker 3>To get an idea of how closely this is being followed.

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<v Speaker 3>The Vino himself still is not where a body cam

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<v Speaker 3>and told Judge Ellis quote, I have not received a

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<v Speaker 3>body worn camera nor the training unquote.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Board of Troll agents have generally, just to give

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<v Speaker 6>some context here, not worn body worn cameras for a

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<v Speaker 6>number of reasons. Firstly, they just don't want to. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 6>no one it's making them. Thirdly, they believe that it

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<v Speaker 6>is possible for people to detect the bluetooth signal that

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 6>the camera gives out and thus find them. This is

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<v Speaker 6>something that is theoretically possible as best my research can tell.

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<v Speaker 6>You can make your own judgment as to which those

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 6>factors is weighing most heavily on their choice not to

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<v Speaker 6>wear them. But that they have never been required, like

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<v Speaker 6>as a group, to wear body worn cameras all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>No, this judge is trying to force them to. They're

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<v Speaker 3>just refusing to follow the order despite Bavino saying that

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<v Speaker 3>ninety nine percent of agents have these cameras, which is

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<v Speaker 3>bizarrely specific.

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<v Speaker 6>Clym, Yeah, Like, is he the one percent?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I guess it's like he's just so obviously lying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's just it's lying. We I think we

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<v Speaker 2>That should be enough to say.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know if I said they never wear them.

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<v Speaker 6>To be clear, they have gone forward and back on

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<v Speaker 6>wearing them. But it was earlier this year that the

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<v Speaker 6>specific security risk they have access to the cameras. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>they're just refusing to follow this order.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah. Now. The same complaint that alleged that Vino

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<v Speaker 3>threw a canister with their justification into this crowd also

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<v Speaker 3>detailsn't incident from the next day, October twenty third, where

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 3>agents without wearing identification as required by the order, shot

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<v Speaker 3>a protester in the neck with pepperball from five feet away,

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<v Speaker 3>and while driving away, pointed a pepper ball gun and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to read from the complaint quote and then

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<v Speaker 3>a real gun at declarant Chris Gentry, a combat veteran

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<v Speaker 3>who was lawfully standing on the side of the road

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<v Speaker 3>voicing his opposition as agents were driving by in their vehicles.

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<v Speaker 3>The agent who pointed the real gun at mister Gentry's

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<v Speaker 3>face said, quote, bang, bang, you're dead liberal unquote great cool. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>plaintiffs have requested body cam footage of this incident, which

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<v Speaker 3>has yet to be provided. Yeah, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>worth noting that, I mean, they do this every single

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<v Speaker 3>time there is any kind of protest, They do stuff

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 3>like this. They've been pointing guns at people the entire

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<v Speaker 3>time they've been here. They've been putting a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>guns the past few months, as we have reported.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes they have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they they kill people, two.

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<v Speaker 6>People, They've shot more than two people. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, say something like this is insane.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah no. Yeah, it shows obviously like a complete lack

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<v Speaker 6>of concern for accountability right now, like like absolutely no

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<v Speaker 6>thought that you could be held accountable for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No.

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<v Speaker 2>And it also shows a desire to kill liberally, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which liberals need to be aware of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't let this organization continue to exist, nor can

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<v Speaker 2>you let the people doing this stay free. If you

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<v Speaker 2>ever take power again, there has to be accountability, and

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<v Speaker 2>there has to be an end to their ability, to

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<v Speaker 2>the ability of any law enforcement agency to exist knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that they are unaccountable and cannot be punished for the

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 2>violence that they do to civilians.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I guess I'll take this point to mention that

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<v Speaker 6>we've covered CBP and DHS's previous shootings in previous years

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<v Speaker 6>and that the internal review process they have for those

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<v Speaker 6>which has led to a lack of accountability even when

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<v Speaker 6>compared to other law enforcement offices.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>During this hearing this last Tuesday, the judge declined to

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<v Speaker 3>alter the TIRO to ban the use of tear gas completely,

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<v Speaker 3>saying that she believes Baveno quote understands where I'm coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>End quote. I don't know that we're going to see

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<v Speaker 3>a whole lot of tear gas being deployed over the

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<v Speaker 3>next week. Unquote cool, great, amazing stuff, jumping out an

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<v Speaker 3>art traditionary.

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<v Speaker 6>Greg's picking up on the vibe. So we should be

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<v Speaker 6>fine now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this Bofito guy seems incredibly trustworthy. Though Judge Ellis

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<v Speaker 3>did instruct Blevino to meet with her every weekday evening

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<v Speaker 3>throughout Operation Midway Blitz till the next hearing in November

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<v Speaker 3>to provide instant briefings on use of force, though just

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<v Speaker 3>One day later, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals blocked

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<v Speaker 3>Judge Ellis's order requiring these daily reports. In some other

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<v Speaker 3>Bovino Moos news, earlier this week, news broke that top

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<v Speaker 3>ICE field office chiefs are set to be reassigned and

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<v Speaker 3>replaced by senior Border Patrol and CBP officials with the

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<v Speaker 3>goal of netting more arrests to boost deportation numbers.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. So the role of Border Patrol Germany is to

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<v Speaker 6>patrol the physical border and to do enforcement in that

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred mile border zone. Right. Their role of ICE,

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<v Speaker 6>the majority of ICE agents are not the people that

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<v Speaker 6>you see out that, Yeah, you're jumping out of cars

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<v Speaker 6>and doing these these smashing grabs.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>The majority of ICE agents people who will work in

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 6>the office, who will check in with migrants through their

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<v Speaker 6>intensive supervision program, which is one of their quote unquote

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 6>alternatives to detention. Right. Both of these agencies, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>are relatively aligned with what I'll call ac Donald Trump's agenda.

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<v Speaker 6>But Border Patrol particularly has made a name for like

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<v Speaker 6>Bavino himself and other Border Patrol chiefs were there was

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 6>a time it looked like they were going to force

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.799
<v Speaker 6>Veno to retire and that time was twenty twenty three

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 6>briefing against it Biden administration. Right, Brevino has been kind

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 6>of particularly emblematic of this new border patrol approach, and

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 6>it is particularly BP that has been aligned just with

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<v Speaker 6>with a lot of things that you know, they had,

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 6>they had issues getting people vaccinated, right like, with this

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 6>whole kind of political social media that is representative of

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 6>the modern right we see with isoations. Like some of

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 6>these people, I'm not going to say they joined like

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 6>looking to help, you know, maybe like make the word

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 6>actually a happy place, but like they they are reasonable

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 6>civil servants, right Like, Like I've talked to plenty of

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 6>migrants who have gone to there and you and you'll

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<v Speaker 6>hear from some of them in a scripted series next month,

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 6>gone to their ice check into been like that was fine,

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 6>that person was professional, That this seemed genuinely concerned for

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 6>things I'm facing, and you know I was not unduly harassed,

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 6>made to feel uncomfortable, et cetera, et cetera.

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Now the border patrol agents are like particularly brutal.

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<v Speaker 6>I have not heard that same that was a reasonable

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:15.760
<v Speaker 6>professional about border patrol agents from migrants. Yeah, border patrol

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 6>also has a pretty high churn, right, as you know,

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 6>so that they have a lot of people who have

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.280
<v Speaker 6>joined since let's say the first Trump admin.

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that may kind of change things because those

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 2>people are joining specifically because they want to fuck with migrants.

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 2>And while that's always been a thing for Border Patrol,

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people joined Border Patrol because it's the

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:40.879
<v Speaker 2>easiest way to become technically a federal agent. Yeah, and

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 2>it can be a path to becoming a better kind

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 2>of federal agent.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, you can do the.

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Career thing, which is why part of why there's so

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 2>much churn, part of why BP.

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<v Speaker 6>Just to like characterize some of the issues the organization

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 6>has had, right has consistently offered waivers the academic qualifications

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 6>other agencies would not offer waivers for they have a

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 6>problem areas problem with sexual assault, not just of migrants,

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 6>but of women in the Border Patrol. They call the

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 6>women in the Border Patrol the fierce five percent, because

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 6>this is an agency that has not succeeded in getting

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 6>more than five percent of his agents to be women.

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 6>Like it is an agency that has I guess for

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 6>one of a better term radicalized, even even you know

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 6>within DHS agencies.

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, all of the most brutal incidents of

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 3>used force in like Portland in twenty twenty that came

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 3>from FEDS was Border Patrol.

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 2>That was Bortech.

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, boord Tech.

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I would encourage people, if they want to get

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 6>a sense of how Border Patrol sees itself, to go

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 6>to the social media page that Baveno curates and has

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 6>created for a while to look and again he was

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 6>my understanding, like hemmed up for his social media post.

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 6>In the Biden administration, He's obviously not being restrained in

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 6>that way. Now, go and look at I think it's

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 6>called Border Patrol Special Operations Command or DHS Special Operations Command,

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.399
<v Speaker 6>which includes Bortech. Go and look at their pages, right,

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 6>Like these guys they see themselves in the realm of

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 6>like a military branch or a paramilitary police. Yeah, and

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 6>that is what they are doing in Chicago.

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, NBC is reporting it. The White House has approved

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.479
<v Speaker 3>three assignment of at least a dozen directors of ice

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 3>field offices, with sources telling Fox News that the cities

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:26.280
<v Speaker 3>will include Los Angeles, Phoenix, Denver, Philadelphia, El Paso, San Diego, Seattle, Portland,

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 3>and New Orleans. This is almost half of the ICE

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 3>field offices in the country. This turnover is being orchestrated

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:38.800
<v Speaker 3>by DHS Secretary Christinome and DHS Senior Advisor Corey Lewandowski,

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 3>with some of the replacements being hand picked by Bevino.

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 3>This is like Bevino began to shape ICE how he

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 3>sees fit using his border patrol background, and these changes

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 3>are reportedly motivated on differing views on tactics across agency

0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 3>leadership with the ICE strategy like the Tom Holmans of

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 3>focusing on targeted removal of known criminals or immigrants with

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:09.360
<v Speaker 3>pre existing deputation orders, versus the border patrol tactic of

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 3>doing these large sweeps and roundups around places like hom deepos, laundromats, restaurants, neighborhoods,

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 3>urban centers.

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 6>So Bevino has been on this for a minute, right,

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 6>And I'm now realizing we need to cover his career

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 6>in more depth. But like I've seen this, Oh, where

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 6>did Bevino come from? Stuff? In twenty ten when he

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 6>was out of at the blithe Border Patrol station I

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 6>believe Blyze, California. For those not familiar, Bavino was part

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 6>of a raid on bus and train stations in Las Vegas, right,

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 6>like these, these broader kind of dragnets have been something

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 6>that he seems to have been a characteristic of his career, right,

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 6>so that would make sense for him to be the

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:51.479
<v Speaker 6>guy advocating for this now.

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 3>The official statement made by DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 3>at this point says, quote, while we have no personnel

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.359
<v Speaker 3>changes to announce at the time, the trom administration remains

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:05.240
<v Speaker 3>laser focused when delivering results removing violent, criminal illegal aliens

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 3>from this country. And she followed up this statement with

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 3>a tweet naming a whole bitch of people involved in

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 3>all of these news stories, including Bavino and like praising

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 3>them for their patriotism. Let's take a look at two

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:24.839
<v Speaker 3>pictures of Boveto here for his courtroom attire. Who wants

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 3>to describe what Baveto is wearing here.

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 6>It looks like a statue of Stalin.

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 2>He looks like a guy in the SS is dressing

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 2>as a guy in the SS for Halloween.

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's very Stalin. I think it's very German.

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Naturally, that is an ssque looking coat. I'm sorry, it's intense.

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.240
<v Speaker 3>He has the little is little stars on his collar

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, this this like boxy wool trench coat. It's

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.439
<v Speaker 3>very with the like shaved sides of his head, it's

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 3>very clear what he is trying to evoke. This is

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 3>a little bit koy, but like, c come on, dude,

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 3>and to follow this up like DHS is really is

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 3>really pushing Vino now is like the face of this

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 3>this mass deportation push and they're making fucking like fash

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 3>wave pipe fash wave hype edit reels.

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 6>Of show it.

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Gods, it's Maso and I will I'll play the whole thing,

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 3>but really it's the first two seconds that demonstrate what's

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 3>what's going on here.

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 6>This will be linked in the notes. I didn't realize

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.760
<v Speaker 6>it was Hampster Dance Coldplay on the soundtrack, Like I

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 6>had never listened to that.

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a choice.

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 3>We're not gonna play much of that audio, garretson, We're

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 3>gonna play we are not playing thirty seconds of copyrighted audio,

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 3>but just the first literally the first two seconds of

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 3>him doing what is there very clearly as see Kyle,

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 3>and then transferring it into like military hand signals, but

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 3>like come on, dude, and then throughout through this the

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 3>rest of the little fash wave edit. It's like pictures

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 3>of him and his like uh, you know, tactical gear,

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 3>and then pictures of him in what you I would

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 3>describe as an SS inspired military dress uniform with the

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 3>little you know, the stars, the trench code. It's like

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 3>very clear what he's doing. The DHS Twitter account has

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:32.720
<v Speaker 3>been doing these little cute Nazi posts for a long time.

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 3>Now they know what they're doing. It's yeah, but specifically

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 3>this now being like the the new kind of face

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 3>of this of this whole operation, both by playing a

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 3>hand in restructuring the leadership of ICE and deploying to

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 3>the forefront of places like Chicago as he leads and

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 3>orchestrates the mass deportation operation like Operation Midway Blitz like

0:41:54.840 --> 0:42:01.840
<v Speaker 3>blitz really do blitz yet interesting, interesting, fucking believable that

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 3>the fact that this guy was not canned by any

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 3>previous Democrat administration, like like like abolishing ICE is is

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 3>obviously like not enough here, because as we're talking about

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 3>the way that like border patrols actually been the ones

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 3>leading the most brutal of these raids, I think like

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 3>there is a specific focus on like ICE because that's

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.360
<v Speaker 3>like a safer target. I get like it feels like,

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 3>because people know what you're talking about.

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>All of dhs we need to get rid of.

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the fact that this guy wasn't fired is going

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 5>to be looked back upon in the same way that

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 5>like Allende promoting Pinochet is looked back on.

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, yeah, it's it's yeah, what how else do

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 2>you describe it?

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Like, if there was going to be a free country,

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 5>all of this shit, all of the dhstationcies, all of

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 5>this needs to cease to exist as a minimum, and

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 5>these people need to be like hauled in front of

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 5>a nubberd tribunal and that's that's the minimum viable. There

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 5>might be a democracy after that.

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:05.320
<v Speaker 2>We need so many Neurembergs.

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, And like it's not I don't want to

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 6>burn a gloat about this. It's not hard to have

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 6>seen this coming. We have talked about this four years, right, Like, yeah,

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:21.720
<v Speaker 6>this began in the nineteen nineties with Operation Gatekeeper, Operation

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 6>Hold the Line. We've documented this extensively. We've documented the

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 6>fact that under the Biden administration there was virtually no oversight,

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 6>right that they were able to detain people outdoors without food, water,

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 6>or shelter and deny that those people were detained. This

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 6>is all stuff that we've covered. If it wasn't in

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 6>your news diet, then you should question the news sources

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.800
<v Speaker 6>that you were using. But like, it was very easy

0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 6>to see this coming, and as Mia said, very little

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 6>was done to prevent it during the last four years.

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Yep. And somewhat more amusing news during the ongoing trial

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 2>over the different federal agents deployed to Portland and the

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 2>necessity of that federal deployment and potentially the mobilization of

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.839
<v Speaker 2>National Guard troops in Oregon being sent to Portland, which

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 2>is still being fought over in the courts. Portland police

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 2>were brought up on the stand and testified that during

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 2>one night out at Ice, federal officers gassed Portland police

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 2>and fired pepper balls at one officer. And when Portland

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:30.879
<v Speaker 2>police confronted federal not ice, sorry, but these are these

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.280
<v Speaker 2>are federal FPS agents outside of the Ice building.

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 2>And when Portland police confronted the FPS agents afterwards, they

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:39.959
<v Speaker 2>responded help or get out of the way.

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 2>And this is simply there's no actually, there's no there's

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 2>no rules of engagement, right, rules of engagement for you know,

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 2>soldiers in the like are supposed to be stuff like,

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 2>you don't fire until a certain standard of danger exists, Right,

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 2>you don't. There are rules at which point you were

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:03.439
<v Speaker 2>allowed to engage with which kinds of weapons? Right Your

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 2>ROI may say one thing about using a night stick

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 2>or mace, and it will say something else about using

0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 2>tear gas or whatever. There's no actual RO for these guys.

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 2>They're allowed to just kind of fire whenever they want,

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 2>and they're not well trained. They're not very good at

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 2>what they do. Most of them have not actually had

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 2>the kind of training I've been supposed to have with

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 2>these weapons systems they're using, and they're just kind of

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 2>firing willy and illy, which is why they've been hitting

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 2>cops repeatedly.

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 6>Most FS agents are contractors, they're not full time now

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 6>enforcement officers.

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 6>Talking of things that it would have been easy to

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:44.320
<v Speaker 6>see coming, I want to talk about ICE's facial recognition app.

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 6>So I've seen a piece in four four Media. Four

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 6>and four media is the most annoying outlet to read

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.439
<v Speaker 6>pieces in because they will send you seventeen emails a day.

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 6>Four A for media suggests that ICE is claiming a

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 6>facial recognition match in its app mobile forti fi is

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 6>a definitive determination of somebody's status. They're quoting here the

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 6>ranking member of the Householme Land Security Committee, Benny G. Thompson,

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 6>as saying, quote mobile Fortify is a dangerous tool in

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:13.320
<v Speaker 6>the hands of ICE, and it puts to American citizens

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 6>a risk of detention and even deportation. He also said

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 6>that quote ICE officials have told us that an apparent

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 6>biometric match by mobile fortifier is a definitive determination of

0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:27.720
<v Speaker 6>a person's status, and that an ICE officer may ignore

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 6>evidence of American citizenship, including a birth certificate, if the

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 6>app says the person is an alien. ICE using a

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 6>mobile biometrics app in this way, in ways its developers

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 6>at CVP never intended or tested, is a frightening, repugnant,

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 6>and unconstitutional attack on Americans rights and freedoms. Thompson is

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:52.399
<v Speaker 6>misguided if he thinks that like this is new, it

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 6>is new, and that's that its impacted US citizens. Yes,

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.959
<v Speaker 6>this article, for reasons I cannot explain, does not mention

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 6>in CBP one right, and as is often the case

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:07.320
<v Speaker 6>some immigration reporting that we see now, it's completely lacking

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 6>in context. The context here is at CBP one is

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 6>an app developed in the first Trump administration. It's often

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 6>referred to as a Biden app because the definitive political

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:21.240
<v Speaker 6>question of our time is who was present in twenty twenty.

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 3>There's just no way to know.

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.760
<v Speaker 2>It's impossible to say you can't do data on anything

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:26.919
<v Speaker 2>happening that far back.

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 6>Unfortunately, I have a new one which is more recent,

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 6>which we're going to talk about next.

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Groc is real.

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 6>But CBP one was effectively determinative for migrants, right. We've

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 6>covered this in great detail here. There were some public

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 6>records about CBP one that I've looked at extensively. There's

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 6>sort of too long didn't READI version is the app

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 6>did not work well on Android phones, especially previous generation

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 6>Android phones, which are very common among people coming from

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 6>the Global South. The face liveness scan. So what the

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 6>facial liveness scan does is that let's say Robert is

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 6>coming to the US, right, they wanted to check that

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 6>the phone is being held by Robert, that it's not

0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 6>been held someone's not holding up a photograph of Robert

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 6>in front of the camera, right, So you sort of

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 6>move it around. Then it determines that it's a real

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 6>three D face, not a photograph. It really struggled with

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 6>black faces. I've seen this firsthand.

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 2>I've all this stuff does. It's the same thing with

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 2>like how there have been like motion activated fossets and

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:34.879
<v Speaker 2>stuff that wouldn't recognize dark skin.

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 6>It's a data set that they put in right to understand. Yeah,

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 6>the results of those scans were determinative for migrants, right.

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 6>It could determine their ability to make an asylum appointment

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 6>and therefore to enter the US and make a claim

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 6>for asylum. This caused people to remain in various very

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 6>dangerous situations. It has probably led to people dying. It's

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 6>another example of why we have to pay attention to

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 6>the border if we want to know what's come down

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 6>the pipe domestically, and talking of shit that is coming

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 6>down the pipe from the border domestically. I want to

0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:11.799
<v Speaker 6>talk about public lands again because Utah Senator Mike Lee

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:15.280
<v Speaker 6>is back on his bullshit. This time he has another bill.

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 6>People will remember that Mike Lee tried to insert in

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 6>the budget reconciliation bill a massive sell off of public lands. Right,

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 6>And what Lee does is he uses whatever terminology he

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 6>thinks will make people support this crusade he has against

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:33.880
<v Speaker 6>land zone by the public for if we want to

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 6>access In the last time, he tried to wrap it

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 6>up a language about affordable housing. If you read the bill,

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:40.359
<v Speaker 6>you would have seen that there wasn't going to result

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 6>in any affordable housing. This time he's wrapping it up

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 6>in the language of border security. And this is where

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 6>I'm where We're going to return to the defining political

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 6>question of our time. Who is President? Because Lee, who

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 6>introduced the bell in October of twenty twenty five, said,

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:59.719
<v Speaker 6>and I quote, Biden's open border chaos is destroying a

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 6>Marria Wicks, Crown Jewels. Families who want to enjoy a

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 6>safe hike or camp out are instead finding trash piles,

0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:11.000
<v Speaker 6>burn landscapes, and trails closed because rangers are stuck clearing

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 6>up the fallout. Cartails are exploiting the disorder, using these

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:17.319
<v Speaker 6>lands as cover for their operation. This bill gifts land

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:20.799
<v Speaker 6>managers and border agents the tools to restore order and

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 6>protect these places for the people they were meant to serve.

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 6>Diligent observers will notice that Biden is no longer the

0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 6>president of the United States, and further, diligent observers will

0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 6>notice that many people currently working for the federal government

0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:39.560
<v Speaker 6>on public lands are being laid off or furloughed due

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 6>to the government shutdown. What Lee's bill would do is

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 6>allow dhs to identify illegal roads in public land areas

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 6>and then to upgrade them to navigable roads. This is

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:57.359
<v Speaker 6>important because the nineteen sixty four Wilderness Act doesn't allow

0:50:57.440 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 6>motorized access to wilderness areas, and what Lee is proposing

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 6>is that they would identify these illegal roads within one

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:11.360
<v Speaker 6>hundred mile zone. He is proposing a blanket change to

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:14.000
<v Speaker 6>the nineteen sixty four Wildness Act to allow the construction

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 6>of roads, which would completely change the nature of wilderness

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 6>in the United States, and sometimes a slip reslow argument

0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 6>can also be a fallacy, but in this case, building

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:27.320
<v Speaker 6>roads into the wilderness will permanently change the nature of

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:30.760
<v Speaker 6>their wilderness and will lead to other losses of protection

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:35.280
<v Speaker 6>on public land. Lee makes the argument that it's important

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 6>for search and rescue and for border access. There is

0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:43.120
<v Speaker 6>already mechanized access for search and rescue. They give search

0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:46.960
<v Speaker 6>and rescue helicopters, for instance, can access wilderness areas that

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:50.319
<v Speaker 6>they have agreements in place with land management agencies which

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:52.360
<v Speaker 6>allow them to do this already. When there is a

0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 6>risk to human life. The bill also talks about removing

0:51:56.320 --> 0:52:00.400
<v Speaker 6>invasive species and reducing fire risk by removing fire fuels

0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 6>down by the border. Again, I'm guessing what this would

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 6>do would be This would I mean if you fire

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:10.440
<v Speaker 6>fuels like look at the southern border near where I live, right,

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 6>Like think of the California sage brush chaparral. Like, clearing

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 6>fire fuels there would completely change that landscape forever. It

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 6>would remove much of the value that this wilderness has

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 6>not as untouched. Right, people have lived in this area

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:27.680
<v Speaker 6>for tenths of thousands of years, and that they have

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.040
<v Speaker 6>touched that nature, and they have lived alongside it and

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:32.360
<v Speaker 6>worked with it. But it is an area that is

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 6>significantly less damaged than most of the United States. Right.

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 6>The bill would also inventory fires and damage to wilderness

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 6>caused by migrants. I guess this is just an attempt

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:50.759
<v Speaker 6>to say another bad thing about migrants. It also prohibits

0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:54.359
<v Speaker 6>any housing of migrants on federal lands unless it is

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:58.840
<v Speaker 6>in a prison. It's Lee taking this border hawk stuff

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 6>and strapping it onto this crusade that he has been

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:04.800
<v Speaker 6>on for a long time to deprive people in the

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:07.600
<v Speaker 6>United States and people visiting the United States have access

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 6>to their public lands and eventually to sell those lands

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 6>off to the highest bidder. He introduced it on October second.

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 6>It's in the committee stage right now. This probably is

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 6>one of the things that folks could call a representative

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 6>about and suggest it's a very bad idea. Talking to

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 6>bad ideas. Ma daughter has announced the formation of an

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:33.239
<v Speaker 6>international brigade to defend his incredibly corupt regime in Venezuela.

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 6>I say this is someone who has been to Venezuela

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 6>and written a PhD about the Spanish Civil War. This

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:42.919
<v Speaker 6>is a very bad idea. Don't do this.

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 4>This is.

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:47.720
<v Speaker 6>Maduro does not need your help. Fuck that guy talking

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:57.520
<v Speaker 6>of things that don't need your help. Here are some adverts.

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:06.839
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe you're throwing the People's Republic of Venezuela

0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:10.360
<v Speaker 3>under the bus like that as they're facing down war

0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.120
<v Speaker 3>with the United States of America.

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 6>Right now standing in the breach against imperialism. Yeah, I

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:16.279
<v Speaker 6>read a lot about it.

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:18.800
<v Speaker 3>What happened is hashtag solidarity. Jane.

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry. I read about it on the Gray Zone

0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 6>and I'm changing my opinions. Having spent more time than

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:27.319
<v Speaker 6>I'm sure half the staff of the Gray Zone in Venezuela.

0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:30.400
<v Speaker 5>Speaking of Spooky. The ship Trump's getting is part of

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 5>pair of negotiations Woo.

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Jazz Jazz Party, Jazz.

0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:47.359
<v Speaker 4>Jazz bar.

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.400
<v Speaker 5>All right, So, as we talked about last week, Trump

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 5>has been in East Asia to do a bunch of

0:54:56.680 --> 0:55:00.960
<v Speaker 5>meetings for conversations already happening. And this is where terrific

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 5>negotiations have been being handled. This has been being held

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 5>in South Korea. South Korean President Lee Jmjung presented Trump

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:11.120
<v Speaker 5>with South Korea's highest honor and also gave him a

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:15.440
<v Speaker 5>giant golden crown. Have you all seen the giant golden crowd?

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 5>It's that easy, folks.

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:19.520
<v Speaker 3>All you gotta do, It's all you gotta do is

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:22.960
<v Speaker 3>just these little stupid things, and then he loves you,

0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:25.800
<v Speaker 3>giant gilded crowd.

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:28.240
<v Speaker 6>I haven't seen the crown. I'm gonna look at the crown.

0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:32.279
<v Speaker 5>Look up the crowd. I am beseeching you all yet.

0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:35.880
<v Speaker 5>I however big you think this crown is? It is

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 5>way larger than that it is?

0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 6>Oh wow, yeah, no, it's Jesus wow. It's like the

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:49.959
<v Speaker 6>sizeaball fire hydran. Yeah. Maybe they directly, they directly took

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 6>the one that they took from Prince Andrew for being

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:54.399
<v Speaker 6>a nonce and melted it down.

0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:57.960
<v Speaker 3>It's really something now.

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:02.840
<v Speaker 5>Now, Lee Jamiung is a name you might recognize because

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.160
<v Speaker 5>he's the guy who was famous for that video of

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.480
<v Speaker 5>climbing over the fence to stop the coup last year.

0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:09.879
<v Speaker 5>And one year later he's giving Trump what I think

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.359
<v Speaker 5>might be the largest crown I have ever seen. Now,

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:17.000
<v Speaker 5>this crown is being described as quote a gilded replica.

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:19.920
<v Speaker 5>So I don't know how much of this is actually gold.

0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:23.799
<v Speaker 5>I suspect it's gold paint or whatever. I don't know.

0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 3>I do not have confirmation on it. But you know,

0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:29.080
<v Speaker 3>great great things happening.

0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 5>In in sort of like a revolutionary anti coup movement,

0:56:32.320 --> 0:56:36.719
<v Speaker 5>which has ended giving Trump the giant golden crown. Yeah,

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:38.840
<v Speaker 5>and apparently and they got like a kind of favorable,

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:43.160
<v Speaker 5>sort of okay ish kind of trade deal out of

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 5>out of out of giving the President of the United

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:49.000
<v Speaker 5>States giant golden crown. So, in terms of tariff news,

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 5>while in China, Trump had his long awaited beating lucijian.

0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:57.280
<v Speaker 3>Ping, they struck a deal.

0:56:57.600 --> 0:57:00.799
<v Speaker 5>Trump decreased the quote unquote it's an all tariffs to

0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:03.680
<v Speaker 5>ten percent, which leaves the tariff right for all Chinese

0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:06.920
<v Speaker 5>goods at forty seven percent, down from its previous fifty

0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:10.640
<v Speaker 5>seven percent. China has agreed to not do Rare Earth's

0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 5>mineral restrictions that we talked about last week, and has

0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:17.240
<v Speaker 5>also pledged by US soybeans. Again, it's deeply unclear how

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 5>much of this is actually going to happen. I think

0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 5>my guess is that they probably won't do the harshest

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 5>of the mineral restrictions, but I will believe the soybean

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 5>purchases when I see it, and I haven't seen it yet.

0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 5>There's also been some interesting use out of the Senate

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:36.440
<v Speaker 5>where there's been a couple of symbolic votes against some

0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 5>sets of tariffs. The Senate voted fifty to forty six

0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 5>to end the state of emergency that supposedly allows Trump

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 5>to do the Canada tariffs, and also voted to block

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:48.640
<v Speaker 5>tariffs against Brazil. The four people who voted against both

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 5>of these who voted with the Democrats are Mitch McConnell,

0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 5>Rand Paul, Susan Collins, and Lisa Morowski. Which it kind

0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 5>of makes sense because Collins and Morowski are supposed to

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:04.760
<v Speaker 5>lead the two moderates. Rand Paul is like just hates tariffs. Yeah,

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 5>he's a free trade hardliner.

0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Who.

0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 5>Whatever I talk about this, I will say he has

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 5>had as much as all of this is his fault.

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 5>He has had one great light, ever, which is I

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:16.040
<v Speaker 5>have a trade deficit with my grocery store.

0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Actually really good. Is he like an Austrian like economists,

0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:24.720
<v Speaker 3>like libertarian type, like like, I know he's like a

0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:27.800
<v Speaker 3>libertarian guy. I'm just trying to figure out what specific flavor.

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.000
<v Speaker 5>He's like an he's like one of the Austrian like

0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:33.080
<v Speaker 5>gold standards, but also like those people are still free

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:35.200
<v Speaker 5>trade people, like really hardline.

0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Last time I heard Charlie Kirk talk in person, he

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 3>was debating like five Austrian economists the most annoying people.

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Mean, like, honestly, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. That

0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 2>sounds like, yeah, that sounds like why would you agree

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:54.280
<v Speaker 2>to do that, especially if you're already rich. I don't

0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:56.200
<v Speaker 2>understand that. I don't understand it.

0:58:58.640 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:01.920
<v Speaker 5>Okay, it's just a work notting though that despite these votes,

0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:03.680
<v Speaker 5>none of this is going to take effect because the

0:59:03.720 --> 0:59:09.000
<v Speaker 5>House right now effectively does not exist as a legislative body. Yeah,

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:12.520
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't exist in general because they keep not calling

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:14.720
<v Speaker 5>sessions because every time they try to call a session,

0:59:14.720 --> 0:59:18.040
<v Speaker 5>the Democrats in the one political theater thing that like

0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:21.160
<v Speaker 5>is kind of a good idea, but they're so bad

0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:23.240
<v Speaker 5>at it. They keep being like, you have to release

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:25.640
<v Speaker 5>the Epstein files, and the Republicans keep being like, no,

0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:27.800
<v Speaker 5>so we kind of don't have a House of Representatives.

0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I keep thinking about that one scene from Mars Attacks

0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:33.400
<v Speaker 2>with the presidents, like, you've still got two out of

0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:35.760
<v Speaker 2>three branches a government, and that ain't bad.

0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:39.479
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, definitely, we have.

0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:41.720
<v Speaker 3>We basically have one branch of government. We have one

0:59:41.760 --> 0:59:43.960
<v Speaker 3>branch of Yeah, we have one branch of governments, and.

0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Like, but that doesn't work as a Mars Attacks Joe.

0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 5>But and also it's worth noting the House voted to

0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:53.800
<v Speaker 5>not allow any tariff legislation until March twenty twenty six,

0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:56.760
<v Speaker 5>a thing that it could apparently do. It is totally normal.

0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Sure, Oh well, yeah, you.

0:59:58.480 --> 0:59:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Know, so speak of things are totally normal.

1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:04.440
<v Speaker 5>We're gonna close this with Trump getting mad at Canada

1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:06.160
<v Speaker 5>because he saw an ad they were running.

1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:10.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, series that was God, it was.

1:00:10.400 --> 1:00:10.560
<v Speaker 4>It was.

1:00:10.600 --> 1:00:12.480
<v Speaker 5>It was a bunch of clips of Ronald Reagan being like,

1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:17.640
<v Speaker 5>Tariff's bad because Reagan. Reagan's domestic protectionism took the form

1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:20.840
<v Speaker 5>of currency to evaluations and not tariffs, et.

1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Cetera, et cetera.

1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:24.280
<v Speaker 5>But like, yeah, so and and and Trump saw this

1:00:24.560 --> 1:00:28.440
<v Speaker 5>lost his mind, said that it was Ai. There's a

1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:31.360
<v Speaker 5>whole saga here about him claiming that it was like

1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:35.840
<v Speaker 5>also unauthorized usage of footage, which is a fiasco. And

1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:38.600
<v Speaker 5>then also all of the terror negotiations that have been

1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:40.560
<v Speaker 5>happening to the US and Canada have been called off

1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:43.080
<v Speaker 5>and he just put another ten percent terriff on them

1:00:43.080 --> 1:00:43.560
<v Speaker 5>because he was.

1:00:43.480 --> 1:00:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Mad about it.

1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:50.800
<v Speaker 5>Which yeah, totally, you know, I I totally absolutely a

1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:53.920
<v Speaker 5>thing that like an elected head of government does, and

1:00:54.000 --> 1:00:57.720
<v Speaker 5>not a a guy who just received a massive golden crown.

1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Ah Garo said, that's not a blue Jay's hat. But

1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:03.760
<v Speaker 3>you know this is a blue Jay's hat. Mia, How

1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:11.000
<v Speaker 3>fucking dare you try to she'splain my own, my own country, myself.

1:01:11.440 --> 1:01:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's Toronto's team.

1:01:13.280 --> 1:01:16.560
<v Speaker 6>Garrison's wearing a hat for those who are not working

1:01:16.600 --> 1:01:17.720
<v Speaker 6>for cool as any media.

1:01:17.480 --> 1:01:19.200
<v Speaker 3>It's the Toronto Blue Jays. Oh my god.

1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, Toronto blue was the Toronto Blue Jays.

1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:23.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but there's not a j on it.

1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Why, well, no, it just has the maple leaf.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's only three points. It's not a not a

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<v Speaker 6>traditional maple leaf.

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<v Speaker 3>James, are you gonna Are you gonna she explain my

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<v Speaker 3>own country to.

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<v Speaker 6>Me, Garrison when it comes to birds and leaves.

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<v Speaker 5>I am going to canada'splain to you it rocks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but that's fun. That's just how tariff policy is set. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>is you pissed off the king and he decided to

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<v Speaker 5>put a teriff?

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<v Speaker 3>This is.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, I don't really know how to do

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<v Speaker 5>analysis of the fact that we just have a child

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<v Speaker 5>king setting terriff. Polsy, It's it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Look quick fact jacket. Do you read can you read this? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>It does say read this genuine m LB merchandise. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>wow wow wow.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They would ever put that in. Fake MLB merchandise wouldn't allowed.

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<v Speaker 6>I've never seen any genuine MLB merchandise in markets in

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<v Speaker 6>a Rocks for example.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Hey, I'm the owner of a proud Fixing GM

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<v Speaker 2>shirt that I bought in a market in there.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, all right, all right, everybody, Okay. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's politically important for the Blue Jays to win the

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<v Speaker 3>World series and contribute to the American Century of Humiliation.

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<v Speaker 2>James, I still have my my Tumberland boots that I

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<v Speaker 2>bought in Syria.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I have a five dot one dot one jacket.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh and I've got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a greater Adotis track suit when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in Istanbul.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to do this fed election right now?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, let's do it now. Let's talk about talking of

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<v Speaker 6>things which are not as they seem. California Attorney General,

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<v Speaker 6>look at that Charason. That is why they pay me

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<v Speaker 6>the medium bugs. California Attorney General Rob Bonter.

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<v Speaker 2>Is warning such a fake guess name. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry, Garrison is wearing that hat for those not watching

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<v Speaker 6>this podcast on top of the head in the fashion

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<v Speaker 6>of affairs, California Attorney General Rob Bonte is wannering about

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<v Speaker 6>election interference by the federal government. The federal government has

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<v Speaker 6>sent monitors to California to a number of different counties

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<v Speaker 6>in California in order to monitor the elections that are

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<v Speaker 6>happening here on the fourth of November. To be clear,

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<v Speaker 6>federal monitoring is not uncommon. The Biden administration did it

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<v Speaker 6>in more than eighty places in twenty twenty four. For example,

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<v Speaker 6>but BoNT seems convinced this monitoring is going to lead

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<v Speaker 6>to election denial, elector interference. Here's Gavin Newsom talking on

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<v Speaker 6>X about this.

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<v Speaker 4>So today the Trump administration announced they're sending election monitors

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<v Speaker 4>to five specific counties here in the state of California.

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<v Speaker 4>They have no business doing that, they have no basis

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<v Speaker 4>to do that. In fact, we have a state wide

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<v Speaker 4>election for a statewide constitution. This is about voter intimidation.

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<v Speaker 4>This is about voter suppression, period, full stop. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>a pattern, isn't it. It's consistent with what they've done

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<v Speaker 4>with the federalization of the National Guard and the intimidation

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<v Speaker 4>of the chill that that's created. They'll do that right

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<v Speaker 4>around election day as well. Same thing with ice and

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<v Speaker 4>Border patrol. Mass men watch that space showing up in

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<v Speaker 4>and around polling booths and voting places. But this is

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<v Speaker 4>a bridge too far, and I hope people understand it's

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<v Speaker 4>a bridge that they're trying to build a scaffolding for

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<v Speaker 4>all across this country and next Novembers election. They do

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<v Speaker 4>not believe in fair and free elections. Our republic, our

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<v Speaker 4>democracy is on the line.

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<v Speaker 6>We all need to wake up I'm actually a lot

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<v Speaker 6>more concerned with the stuff around, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 6>probably right that we will see like more federal agents

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<v Speaker 6>around polling places in election time. What California was doing

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<v Speaker 6>in response is assigning monitors to monitor the federal monitors,

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<v Speaker 6>which will be interesting and it seems unusual, right for

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<v Speaker 6>the federal monitors be monitoring. Thinks that one of the

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<v Speaker 6>things that's on the ballot this year is Prop fifty right,

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<v Speaker 6>which would redistrict California. It's jerry mandering, so gerry mandering

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<v Speaker 6>proposition to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's revenge gerrymandering character Jerry. The bill is specifically we

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<v Speaker 2>not we're going to do this, but we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do this if there's redistricting in Texas.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, it's it's yes, it's an attempt to rectify

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<v Speaker 6>the very obvious jule gerrymandering Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of mad mutually asserted destruction is applied to

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry Man.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah. Neither of these things are great. That's

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<v Speaker 6>here we are. I think that's what I had on

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<v Speaker 6>this essentially cool yep. I think that that's uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Eisode, that's where we're at, all, right, everybody.

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<v Speaker 6>Well until.

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<v Speaker 3>Breaking breaking autism news God Texas is suing Thailand all

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<v Speaker 3>specifically a pharmacistic company Johnston Johnson for marketing tile and

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<v Speaker 3>all the pregnant women and failing to disclose. But a

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<v Speaker 3>turny General Can Paxton calls quote a significantly increased risk

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<v Speaker 3>of autism and other disorders unquote.

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<v Speaker 6>They don't market it to pregnant women like geremaly.

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<v Speaker 2>It says like if I'm not mistaken, it says on

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<v Speaker 2>the bottles, don't take if your nurse pregnant.

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<v Speaker 6>We covered this in a previous episode. But like geermity,

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<v Speaker 6>drugs are not very few drugs are marketed to pregnant people, right,

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<v Speaker 6>be the women or otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, the only thing you're supposed to take is

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<v Speaker 2>a pregnant woman is cocaine, and you got to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure it's pure.

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<v Speaker 3>Non binary people thought you can take anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you're If you're not pregnant, it's

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<v Speaker 2>okay to do whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>If you are pregnant, no, other women, it's okay, go.

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<v Speaker 2>Right hell yeah yeah sure, yes, wait, No, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's.

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<v Speaker 3>How it works.

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<v Speaker 6>Transmasting double yeah yeah yeah true.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you have a fetus gest stating in

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<v Speaker 2>you You're only supposed to do cocaine.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely the least autistic for people non binary people. Yeah, definitely, definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>they can just take whatever or do or do take whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, too many drugs like like they'll they'll say that

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<v Speaker 6>you should consult with it with your doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>Consulted doctor.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and none of them are risk free. But it's

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's a cost benefit analysis.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We covered this the autism and Thailand all like correlation

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<v Speaker 3>versus causation based on that one sweeter se this is

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<v Speaker 3>I'm interested to see how Johnston Johnson argues this in

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<v Speaker 3>court and if that will have effects across, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the Trump administration's anti Thailand all push,

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<v Speaker 3>if they're able to successfully defend their product against Ken Paxton,

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<v Speaker 3>so critical support to Thailand.

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<v Speaker 2>All I guess welcome to the resistance Big Pharma Jesus.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, if people listen to more and that we can

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<v Speaker 6>get back and find out previous episode.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, everybody, until next time, try not to be

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<v Speaker 2>on a fishing boat anywhere south of the US southern border.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not safe right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Good luck trick or treating, Happy Halloween, Yeah, goove trick or.

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<v Speaker 2>Treating it's not safe right now.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, don't be trick or treating in a boat.

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