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Speaker 1: Old media.

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Speaker 2: No, yep, yep, it's it could happen here electile.

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Speaker 3: Disorder executive disorder, which is our weekly newscast, which we've

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Speaker 3: been doing all year, so we should we should know

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Speaker 3: what it's called by now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm so good at doing it, naming it.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: This show covers what's happening in the White House, the

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Speaker 3: crumbling world, and what it means for you and me

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Speaker 3: and everyone else. I'm Garrison Davis. This episode, I'm joined

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Speaker 3: by Robert Evans, James Stout, and Maya Wong, and we

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Speaker 3: are covering the week of October twenty second to October thirtieth. Yep.

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Speaker 5: So I think we should start off the bat by

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Speaker 5: with the same thing we started off last week with,

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Speaker 5: which is that as your Halloween. Yeah, well that on

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Speaker 5: the upside weed woo spooky. On the downside, forty million

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Speaker 5: people lose, lose, there's not benefits the next day on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what's spookier than that. Look, one thing you

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Speaker 2: can't say about the government is that they're not failing

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Speaker 2: to celebrate the holiday.

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Speaker 6: I am scared of the consequences.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, stock up on the trigger treater candy.

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Speaker 2: I guess, steal as much candy as you can get.

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Speaker 2: You're going to need it to stay alive.

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Speaker 6: See a group of children, you run past him.

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Speaker 4: Kick them.

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Speaker 2: Oh their kids. They can't stop you.

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Speaker 6: Yep. Hold it above your head. They can't reach it.

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Speaker 3: No, it is. It is extremely grim, and there seems

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Speaker 3: to be no indication from the Republicans of the Trump

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Speaker 3: administration that they are going to work with the Democrats

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Speaker 3: to resolve this without sacrificing health care for millions of Americans.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So, Gavin Newsom, a friend of the show, has

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Speaker 6: deployed the California National God to assist food banks and estate.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Like, look, the thing is, when you participate in the

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Speaker 6: largest crackdown unprotected First Amendments beach in recent history, you

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Speaker 6: don't get to show up and hand out snacks and

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Speaker 6: feel good. And many food banks, including some in the

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Speaker 6: right because they have this very obvious concern that some

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Speaker 6: people might be reluctant to go to places where the

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Speaker 6: soldiers who are standing right next to all the different

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Speaker 6: immigration agents in la are now working, and so this

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Speaker 6: will have the opposite of a positive effect in those

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Speaker 6: instances right, people who are afraid to go to food

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Speaker 6: banks are going to remain hungry. The consequences of this

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Speaker 6: will be negative. The issue, I don't think is a

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Speaker 6: lack of person power. The issue is a lack of funding.

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Speaker 6: The state has mobilized eighty million dollars in funds, but

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Speaker 6: millions of Californians will be going hungry. And because of

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Speaker 6: the failure of state authorities to stop federal authorities deploying

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Speaker 6: the National Guard to LA and other areas where immigration

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Speaker 6: enforcement was happening, this stunt that Newsman is going for

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Speaker 6: could have very negative consequences for for food banks and

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Speaker 6: for Californians who are hungry. Something sick and cool you

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Speaker 6: can do if you have the means and the time

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Speaker 6: is to pick up food from food banks for people

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Speaker 6: who need it. A lot of people might be concerned.

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Speaker 3: One of the biggest problems is how much food banks

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Speaker 3: get food also through these programs, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean support. Yeah, food banks themselves are

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Speaker 6: going to be struggling right now. So like I actually

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Speaker 6: I did a thread on lib on blue Sky where

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Speaker 6: were you going to say?

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Speaker 3: Lived Twitter? And then corrected to blue Sky.

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Speaker 6: I was going to say lib Sky. Yeah. Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: fact checked myself. It's blue Wave Sky.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: You cannot get that past me. I could pick up

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Speaker 3: on what you were doing, Garrison Davis like a viper struck. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: at the core of my thought process. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So if you're on, if you're Skeeita, then you can

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Speaker 6: you can find their threader made I link get in

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Speaker 6: the show notes with food banks that are looking for donations,

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Speaker 6: and you can also use that to find a food

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Speaker 6: bank in your area if you're interested in that. But yet,

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Speaker 6: this is a serious problem. This is the should be

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Speaker 6: the biggest news story. I'm thinking particularly of those folks

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Speaker 2: Doing the thing that like, there's a representative. Clay Higgins

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Speaker 2: of Louisiana made a tweet today blaming snap recipients for

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Speaker 2: not stockpiling a month's worth of food.

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Speaker 6: Does he understand how this works?

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Speaker 2: He said, try to get your head wrapped around how

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Speaker 2: many pantries you can start with forty two hundred dollars,

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Speaker 2: which is what people get on average per year. He says,

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Speaker 2: with Snap benefits in properly shopped groceries. Any American who's

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Speaker 2: been receiving forty two hundred dollars per year of free

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Speaker 2: grocery stock should never again receive Snap because wow, stop

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Speaker 2: smoking crack.

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Speaker 3: That's inhumane.

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Speaker 2: Dealing with the shit that they talk about is almost

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Speaker 2: pointless because they're all liars. But like h as like

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Speaker 2: what you said, Like people are on Snap for a

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Speaker 2: wide variety of reasons. They're largely employed. They're just not

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Speaker 2: getting enough money to actually like survive and feed their family.

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Speaker 2: And like, the forty two hundred dollars a year for

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Speaker 2: a family is not in fact enough to stockpile a

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Speaker 6: No, it's not like it's remarkable how totach the people

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Speaker 6: who make our laws off from Yeah, the working class experience.

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Speaker 5: There is no way that guy knows how much of

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Speaker 2: No way, zero, He has no idea that man isn't

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Speaker 2: shopped for himself in fucking twenty years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah they I does not know how much it

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Speaker 2: And obviously you know we hear we talk about storing food,

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Speaker 2: much money to build a stockpile. And that's why I

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Speaker 2: pressure can right and pickle different foods. You want it,

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Speaker 2: because there are ways that you can. And this is why, right,

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Speaker 2: it's not because you should be doing that or your irresponsible.

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Speaker 2: It's because we even when it comes to the social

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Speaker 2: at any given point it could become a fucking fucking

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Speaker 2: football for Democrats and Republicans to fight over and go away. Right, Like,

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Speaker 2: none of this stuff is reliable, which is why people

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Speaker 2: But because you cannot rely on the government, right. And

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Speaker 2: I don't say that as like a critique of people

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Speaker 2: in the long run. Yeah, let's talk about Graham Plattner.

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Speaker 6: All right, Oh god, I do so to touch politicians.

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, James brought up Graham Plattner,

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Speaker 2: who is running for Congress in Maine, and some ads

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Speaker 2: So his campaign, the strategy that he was following, which

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of legs to talking about that kind

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Speaker 2: talked about in a very combative way. Right, this guy

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Speaker 2: was a former marine, some sort of fisherman. I think

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Speaker 6: They called maniacs. Technically, I think they're called maners. That

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Speaker 2: So he was coming across as a very like blue

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Speaker 2: last twenty years of his life he has had a

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Speaker 2: totin cough tattooed over his pectoral that is the Death's Head. Now,

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Speaker 2: it dates back before the Nazis. It was a niche.

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Speaker 2: and it was it was worn by a number, by

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Speaker 2: having one tattooed on you bad, Yeah, not cool. Platner

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Speaker 2: has said, basically, it was a dumb tattoo I got

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Speaker 2: willing to believe that like a nineteen year old who

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of friends that were in the

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Speaker 2: Marines and they all have bad tattoos, right, none of

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Speaker 2: them have Death's Heads.

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Speaker 3: So you got it well, in like Croatia drunk, Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: and he was hammered, and yeah, the probability of walking

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Speaker 3: a Nazi tattoo is extremely high.

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Speaker 6: Sure, Yeah, it's not low. Yeah, Yeah, they're on the

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Speaker 6: flash seat for Friday the thirteenth. They probably are.

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Speaker 2: If it had just come out that he'd had this

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Speaker 2: I had it been like not a story, right, like

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Speaker 2: man gets bad tattoos, dumb kid. But number one, he

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Speaker 2: kept it until he got it covered in like the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, tell you that was a real piece of odd

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Speaker 2: Wild choice to just keep it for that long. But

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Speaker 2: also he claimed I had no idea until it came

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Speaker 3: What do you think that Joe Rogan of the Left meant?

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Speaker 2: it happens. We can wait on something like this to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like we only get to come so much. We

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Speaker 6: Explain you a generation to us, garrison, why you like this?

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Speaker 3: This isn't like new a revolutionary information. The fact that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and because surely there's one other guy who can

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Speaker 5: And also the most wild part about this I don't

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Speaker 5: The guys from Nisar Square, Yeah, from the Sour Square massacre. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know this is criminal guys, right, you know we're

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Speaker 2: breaking you know, this is fucked up. You know this,

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Speaker 2: this war's bullshit. Pat Tillman was saying that, right, like

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Speaker 2: Derry and the invasions this guy shot out in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like it took him. It took a minute,

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Speaker 3: it took him reasonably long time.

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Speaker 5: And also when you read his interviews about it, he's like,

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Speaker 5: I did it because it was fun.

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Speaker 2: Which is just like, that's that's honest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's honest. It makes me insane.

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean, that's that's why people join the Marines

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Speaker 2: as they like money and or they're adrenaline jokies.

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Speaker 6: Right, I'd rather he was honest about that shit. Actually,

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Speaker 6: like I I am.

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Speaker 3: It is just like distressing.

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Speaker 2: I actually like that. And again I do kind of

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Speaker 2: like because there's not a there's not a perfect answers

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Speaker 2: to like, well, when should you have had a change

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Speaker 2: of heart about something like this before you can like

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Speaker 2: be trusted as a political leader on the left. And

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Speaker 2: I actually don't really know. I think I would be

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Speaker 2: inclined to be like give him the benefit of the

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Speaker 2: doubt on that stuff more if it weren't for the

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Speaker 2: not yeah.

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Speaker 3: Pleasure shift out with plug eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all those things together are kind of sketchy.

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Speaker 3: Maybe do a couple of tours as a dog catcher.

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Speaker 2: First, Like, you know, I'm seeing a lot of because

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Speaker 2: there's a whole lot of like, well, no one else

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Speaker 2: who has a chance of winning in Maine is supporting

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Speaker 2: the progressive policies he is. You know, you can't have

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Speaker 2: it all be perfect or whatever he's you know, we

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Speaker 2: should at least hope that he gets in and he

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Speaker 2: does the things he's saying. And I guess, like, if

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Speaker 2: he does get elected, and it's not the most likely

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Speaker 2: thing right now, but it's certainly impossible, I guess I

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Speaker 2: hope he does the good stuff he says that he's done.

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Speaker 2: I just have a lot less faith in that, given

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Speaker 2: both what's come out and his reaction to it.

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Speaker 6: Right, it's his reaction to it. It was really disqualifying, right, Like, right,

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Speaker 6: there's a world I guess I didn't know that he

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Speaker 6: told people it was a total cough. That's pretty fucking incriminating.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, there's reports from people who have said that

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Speaker 3: it's it's unclear, Okay.

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Speaker 6: There's reports, got it.

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Speaker 2: We don't know objectively, but people have talked to the

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Speaker 2: press who knew him and said that he described it

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Speaker 2: as a total cough to them several years ago.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, if his response had been like, oh fuck,

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Speaker 6: I didn't know, let me get that covered up immediately.

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Speaker 6: That his response was so bad to defend it and

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Speaker 6: to be like there's a conspiracy against it, really bad.

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Speaker 6: It's that failure. And it also just shows like a

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Speaker 6: lack of judgment and lack of ability to be critical

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Speaker 6: of his own actions, which is worrying.

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Speaker 2: It shows the kind of Trumpian fancifulness that really worries me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, damn it, gugaury kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: A lot of populists are like this, like this is

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Speaker 3: this is a part of populis. Yes, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: think you can fully decouple it.

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Speaker 2: That's probably true, Garrison. Yeah, that's probably true. But I

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not gonna tell you how to vote.

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Speaker 2: I've made a habit of never telling people how to vote.

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Speaker 2: So if you're in Maine, enjoy your mc lobster and

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Speaker 2: do whatever your heart tells you. It's the right thing

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Speaker 2: to do, my friend. But also, please don't eat a

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Speaker 2: mc lobster there. It's clearly poisoned, you know, avoid avoid

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Speaker 2: a m mc lobster's at all costs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, buy an oyster in today the strongest endorsement Robert

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Speaker 3: I thinks can make.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, is it not? By a mc lobster.

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Speaker 2: Avoid a mc lobster at all costs.

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Speaker 6: If you're on the West coast, avoid shellfish. And in

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Speaker 6: some months it all costs because you can get paralytic

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Speaker 6: shellfish poison.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean some people that's just basically getting

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Speaker 2: free muscle relaxers games.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's do it, ad break from us or at accerts. Okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, we are back of Can I do my

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Speaker 3: Halloween ice Nazi? Sure? Bevino segment? Is that how you

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Speaker 3: say his name? Bavino?

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Speaker 6: Greg? Yeah? Greg Green?

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Speaker 3: It looks like a Bavino to me. So we're gonna

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Speaker 3: talk about him playing dress up and how border patrol

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Speaker 3: disrupted a Halloween parade. So last weekend, while conducting an

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Speaker 3: immigration enforcement RAINE border patrol disrupted the root of a

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Speaker 3: children's Halloween parade in Old Irving Park in Chicago, using

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Speaker 3: tear gas and arresting several people, including two US citizens.

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Speaker 3: A crowd gathered around after a border patrol arrested a

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Speaker 3: thirty five year old construction worker who has lived in

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Speaker 3: Chicago since he was four years old. Jesus neighborhood residents

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Speaker 3: said that federal agents then deployed tear gas without warning.

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Speaker 3: That following Tuesday, the architect of Operation Midway Blitz, Greg Bavino,

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Speaker 3: appeared in a federal courts as part of a lawsuit

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Speaker 3: alleging excessive force and violations of a tro restricting the

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Speaker 3: use of tear gas and crowd control munitions. Bavino seems

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Speaker 3: to be flagrantly violating this tro as he was photographed

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Speaker 3: personally throwing a tear guest canister into a crowd in

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Speaker 3: October twenty second during a raid on a laundromat and

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Speaker 3: home depot. The DHS says that protesters are throwing rocks

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Speaker 3: and Border Patrol issued warnings, though this account is contradicted

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Speaker 3: by video of the incident. US District Judge Sarah Ellis

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Speaker 3: told the Border Patrol chief quote, kids dressed in Halloween

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Speaker 3: costumes walking to a parade do not pose an immediate

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Speaker 3: threat to the safety of law enforcement officers. They just don't,

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Speaker 3: and you can't use riot control weapons against them. This

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Speaker 3: trol requires that crowd controlmmunitions may only be used as

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Speaker 3: someone posed as an immediate threat to law enforcement, with

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Speaker 3: agents instructed to give two verbal warnings before tear gas

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Speaker 3: pepper spray can be deployed, and to wear body cams, badges,

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Speaker 3: or visible ideas. This order was issued on October ninth.

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Speaker 3: To get an idea of how closely this is being followed.

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Speaker 3: The Vino himself still is not where a body cam

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Speaker 3: and told Judge Ellis quote, I have not received a

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Speaker 3: body worn camera nor the training unquote.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Board of Troll agents have generally, just to give

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Speaker 6: some context here, not worn body worn cameras for a

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Speaker 6: number of reasons. Firstly, they just don't want to. Secondly,

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Speaker 6: no one it's making them. Thirdly, they believe that it

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Speaker 6: is possible for people to detect the bluetooth signal that

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Speaker 6: the camera gives out and thus find them. This is

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Speaker 6: something that is theoretically possible as best my research can tell.

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Speaker 6: You can make your own judgment as to which those

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Speaker 6: factors is weighing most heavily on their choice not to

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Speaker 6: wear them. But that they have never been required, like

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Speaker 6: as a group, to wear body worn cameras all the time.

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Speaker 3: No, this judge is trying to force them to. They're

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Speaker 3: just refusing to follow the order despite Bavino saying that

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Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of agents have these cameras, which is

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Speaker 3: bizarrely specific.

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Speaker 6: Clym, Yeah, Like, is he the one percent?

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Speaker 3: Like, I guess it's like he's just so obviously lying.

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Speaker 3: It's just oh god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just it's lying. We I think we

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Speaker 2: That should be enough to say.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if I said they never wear them.

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Speaker 6: To be clear, they have gone forward and back on

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Speaker 6: wearing them. But it was earlier this year that the

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Speaker 6: specific security risk they have access to the cameras. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 6: they're just refusing to follow this order.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Now. The same complaint that alleged that Vino

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Speaker 3: threw a canister with their justification into this crowd also

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Speaker 3: detailsn't incident from the next day, October twenty third, where

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Speaker 3: agents without wearing identification as required by the order, shot

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Speaker 3: a protester in the neck with pepperball from five feet away,

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Speaker 3: and while driving away, pointed a pepper ball gun and

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Speaker 3: I'm going to read from the complaint quote and then

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Speaker 3: a real gun at declarant Chris Gentry, a combat veteran

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Speaker 3: who was lawfully standing on the side of the road

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Speaker 3: voicing his opposition as agents were driving by in their vehicles.

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Speaker 3: The agent who pointed the real gun at mister Gentry's

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Speaker 3: face said, quote, bang, bang, you're dead liberal unquote great cool. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: plaintiffs have requested body cam footage of this incident, which

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Speaker 3: has yet to be provided. Yeah, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: worth noting that, I mean, they do this every single

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Speaker 3: time there is any kind of protest, They do stuff

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Speaker 3: like this. They've been pointing guns at people the entire

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Speaker 3: time they've been here. They've been putting a lot of

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Speaker 3: guns the past few months, as we have reported.

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Speaker 6: Yes they have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they they kill people, two.

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Speaker 6: People, They've shot more than two people. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, say something like this is insane.

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Speaker 6: Yeah no. Yeah, it shows obviously like a complete lack

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Speaker 6: of concern for accountability right now, like like absolutely no

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Speaker 6: thought that you could be held accountable for this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No.

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Speaker 2: And it also shows a desire to kill liberally, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: which liberals need to be aware of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: You can't let this organization continue to exist, nor can

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Speaker 2: you let the people doing this stay free. If you

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Speaker 2: ever take power again, there has to be accountability, and

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Speaker 2: there has to be an end to their ability, to

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Speaker 2: the ability of any law enforcement agency to exist knowing

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Speaker 2: that they are unaccountable and cannot be punished for the

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Speaker 2: violence that they do to civilians.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess I'll take this point to mention that

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Speaker 6: we've covered CBP and DHS's previous shootings in previous years

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Speaker 6: and that the internal review process they have for those

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Speaker 6: which has led to a lack of accountability even when

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Speaker 6: compared to other law enforcement offices.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: During this hearing this last Tuesday, the judge declined to

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Speaker 3: alter the TIRO to ban the use of tear gas completely,

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Speaker 3: saying that she believes Baveno quote understands where I'm coming from.

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Speaker 3: End quote. I don't know that we're going to see

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Speaker 3: a whole lot of tear gas being deployed over the

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Speaker 3: next week. Unquote cool, great, amazing stuff, jumping out an

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Speaker 3: art traditionary.

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Speaker 6: Greg's picking up on the vibe. So we should be

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Speaker 6: fine now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this Bofito guy seems incredibly trustworthy. Though Judge Ellis

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Speaker 3: did instruct Blevino to meet with her every weekday evening

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Speaker 3: throughout Operation Midway Blitz till the next hearing in November

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Speaker 3: to provide instant briefings on use of force, though just

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Speaker 3: One day later, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals blocked

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Speaker 3: Judge Ellis's order requiring these daily reports. In some other

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Speaker 3: Bovino Moos news, earlier this week, news broke that top

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Speaker 3: ICE field office chiefs are set to be reassigned and

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Speaker 3: replaced by senior Border Patrol and CBP officials with the

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Speaker 3: goal of netting more arrests to boost deportation numbers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So the role of Border Patrol Germany is to

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Speaker 6: patrol the physical border and to do enforcement in that

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Speaker 6: one hundred mile border zone. Right. Their role of ICE,

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Speaker 6: the majority of ICE agents are not the people that

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Speaker 6: you see out that, Yeah, you're jumping out of cars

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Speaker 6: and doing these these smashing grabs.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: The majority of ICE agents people who will work in

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Speaker 6: the office, who will check in with migrants through their

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Speaker 6: intensive supervision program, which is one of their quote unquote

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Speaker 6: alternatives to detention. Right. Both of these agencies, you know,

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Speaker 6: are relatively aligned with what I'll call ac Donald Trump's agenda.

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Speaker 6: But Border Patrol particularly has made a name for like

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Speaker 6: Bavino himself and other Border Patrol chiefs were there was

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Speaker 6: a time it looked like they were going to force

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Speaker 6: Veno to retire and that time was twenty twenty three

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Speaker 6: briefing against it Biden administration. Right, Brevino has been kind

656
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Speaker 6: of particularly emblematic of this new border patrol approach, and

657
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Speaker 6: it is particularly BP that has been aligned just with

658
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Speaker 6: with a lot of things that you know, they had,

659
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 6: they had issues getting people vaccinated, right like, with this

660
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 6: whole kind of political social media that is representative of

661
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 6: the modern right we see with isoations. Like some of

662
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Speaker 6: these people, I'm not going to say they joined like

663
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Speaker 6: looking to help, you know, maybe like make the word

664
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Speaker 6: actually a happy place, but like they they are reasonable

665
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 6: civil servants, right Like, Like I've talked to plenty of

666
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 6: migrants who have gone to there and you and you'll

667
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 6: hear from some of them in a scripted series next month,

668
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 6: gone to their ice check into been like that was fine,

669
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Speaker 6: that person was professional, That this seemed genuinely concerned for

670
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Speaker 6: things I'm facing, and you know I was not unduly harassed,

671
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Speaker 6: made to feel uncomfortable, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Now the border patrol agents are like particularly brutal.

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Speaker 6: I have not heard that same that was a reasonable

674
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Speaker 6: professional about border patrol agents from migrants. Yeah, border patrol

675
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 6: also has a pretty high churn, right, as you know,

676
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 6: so that they have a lot of people who have

677
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Speaker 6: joined since let's say the first Trump admin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that may kind of change things because those

679
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: people are joining specifically because they want to fuck with migrants.

680
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Speaker 2: And while that's always been a thing for Border Patrol,

681
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: a lot of people joined Border Patrol because it's the

682
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Speaker 2: easiest way to become technically a federal agent. Yeah, and

683
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Speaker 2: it can be a path to becoming a better kind

684
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Speaker 2: of federal agent.

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Speaker 6: Sure, you can do the.

686
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: Career thing, which is why part of why there's so

687
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Speaker 2: much churn, part of why BP.

688
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 6: Just to like characterize some of the issues the organization

689
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 6: has had, right has consistently offered waivers the academic qualifications

690
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 6: other agencies would not offer waivers for they have a

691
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Speaker 6: problem areas problem with sexual assault, not just of migrants,

692
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Speaker 6: but of women in the Border Patrol. They call the

693
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Speaker 6: women in the Border Patrol the fierce five percent, because

694
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Speaker 6: this is an agency that has not succeeded in getting

695
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Speaker 6: more than five percent of his agents to be women.

696
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Speaker 6: Like it is an agency that has I guess for

697
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 6: one of a better term radicalized, even even you know

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Speaker 6: within DHS agencies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, all of the most brutal incidents of

700
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Speaker 3: used force in like Portland in twenty twenty that came

701
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Speaker 3: from FEDS was Border Patrol.

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Speaker 2: That was Bortech.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, boord Tech.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I would encourage people, if they want to get

705
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Speaker 6: a sense of how Border Patrol sees itself, to go

706
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 6: to the social media page that Baveno curates and has

707
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Speaker 6: created for a while to look and again he was

708
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Speaker 6: my understanding, like hemmed up for his social media post.

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Speaker 6: In the Biden administration, He's obviously not being restrained in

710
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Speaker 6: that way. Now, go and look at I think it's

711
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 6: called Border Patrol Special Operations Command or DHS Special Operations Command,

712
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Speaker 6: which includes Bortech. Go and look at their pages, right,

713
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 6: Like these guys they see themselves in the realm of

714
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 6: like a military branch or a paramilitary police. Yeah, and

715
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Speaker 6: that is what they are doing in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, NBC is reporting it. The White House has approved

717
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,479
Speaker 3: three assignment of at least a dozen directors of ice

718
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: field offices, with sources telling Fox News that the cities

719
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Speaker 3: will include Los Angeles, Phoenix, Denver, Philadelphia, El Paso, San Diego, Seattle, Portland,

720
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Speaker 3: and New Orleans. This is almost half of the ICE

721
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Speaker 3: field offices in the country. This turnover is being orchestrated

722
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 3: by DHS Secretary Christinome and DHS Senior Advisor Corey Lewandowski,

723
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Speaker 3: with some of the replacements being hand picked by Bevino.

724
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Speaker 3: This is like Bevino began to shape ICE how he

725
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: sees fit using his border patrol background, and these changes

726
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: are reportedly motivated on differing views on tactics across agency

727
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: leadership with the ICE strategy like the Tom Holmans of

728
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: focusing on targeted removal of known criminals or immigrants with

729
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 3: pre existing deputation orders, versus the border patrol tactic of

730
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Speaker 3: doing these large sweeps and roundups around places like hom deepos, laundromats, restaurants, neighborhoods,

731
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Speaker 3: urban centers.

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Speaker 6: So Bevino has been on this for a minute, right,

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Speaker 6: And I'm now realizing we need to cover his career

734
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Speaker 6: in more depth. But like I've seen this, Oh, where

735
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 6: did Bevino come from? Stuff? In twenty ten when he

736
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Speaker 6: was out of at the blithe Border Patrol station I

737
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Speaker 6: believe Blyze, California. For those not familiar, Bavino was part

738
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Speaker 6: of a raid on bus and train stations in Las Vegas, right,

739
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 6: like these, these broader kind of dragnets have been something

740
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 6: that he seems to have been a characteristic of his career, right,

741
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 6: so that would make sense for him to be the

742
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,479
Speaker 6: guy advocating for this now.

743
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Speaker 3: The official statement made by DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin

744
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: at this point says, quote, while we have no personnel

745
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 3: changes to announce at the time, the trom administration remains

746
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 3: laser focused when delivering results removing violent, criminal illegal aliens

747
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Speaker 3: from this country. And she followed up this statement with

748
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: a tweet naming a whole bitch of people involved in

749
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Speaker 3: all of these news stories, including Bavino and like praising

750
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Speaker 3: them for their patriotism. Let's take a look at two

751
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: pictures of Boveto here for his courtroom attire. Who wants

752
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: to describe what Baveto is wearing here.

753
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Speaker 6: It looks like a statue of Stalin.

754
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Speaker 2: He looks like a guy in the SS is dressing

755
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Speaker 2: as a guy in the SS for Halloween.

756
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's very Stalin. I think it's very German.

757
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: Naturally, that is an ssque looking coat. I'm sorry, it's intense.

758
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Speaker 3: He has the little is little stars on his collar

759
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: and yeah, this this like boxy wool trench coat. It's

760
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 3: very with the like shaved sides of his head, it's

761
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 3: very clear what he is trying to evoke. This is

762
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: a little bit koy, but like, c come on, dude,

763
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Speaker 3: and to follow this up like DHS is really is

764
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Speaker 3: really pushing Vino now is like the face of this

765
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Speaker 3: this mass deportation push and they're making fucking like fash

766
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Speaker 3: wave pipe fash wave hype edit reels.

767
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Speaker 6: Of show it.

768
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Speaker 3: Gods, it's Maso and I will I'll play the whole thing,

769
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Speaker 3: but really it's the first two seconds that demonstrate what's

770
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Speaker 3: what's going on here.

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Speaker 6: This will be linked in the notes. I didn't realize

772
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Speaker 6: it was Hampster Dance Coldplay on the soundtrack, Like I

773
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Speaker 6: had never listened to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a choice.

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna play much of that audio, garretson, We're

776
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Speaker 3: gonna play we are not playing thirty seconds of copyrighted audio,

777
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 3: but just the first literally the first two seconds of

778
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Speaker 3: him doing what is there very clearly as see Kyle,

779
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: and then transferring it into like military hand signals, but

780
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: like come on, dude, and then throughout through this the

781
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: rest of the little fash wave edit. It's like pictures

782
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Speaker 3: of him and his like uh, you know, tactical gear,

783
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: and then pictures of him in what you I would

784
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Speaker 3: describe as an SS inspired military dress uniform with the

785
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: little you know, the stars, the trench code. It's like

786
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: very clear what he's doing. The DHS Twitter account has

787
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: been doing these little cute Nazi posts for a long time.

788
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 3: Now they know what they're doing. It's yeah, but specifically

789
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: this now being like the the new kind of face

790
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: of this of this whole operation, both by playing a

791
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: hand in restructuring the leadership of ICE and deploying to

792
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: the forefront of places like Chicago as he leads and

793
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: orchestrates the mass deportation operation like Operation Midway Blitz like

794
00:41:54,840 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 3: blitz really do blitz yet interesting, interesting, fucking believable that

795
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: the fact that this guy was not canned by any

796
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: previous Democrat administration, like like like abolishing ICE is is

797
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: obviously like not enough here, because as we're talking about

798
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Speaker 3: the way that like border patrols actually been the ones

799
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Speaker 3: leading the most brutal of these raids, I think like

800
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Speaker 3: there is a specific focus on like ICE because that's

801
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 3: like a safer target. I get like it feels like,

802
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: because people know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: All of dhs we need to get rid of.

804
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the fact that this guy wasn't fired is going

805
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 5: to be looked back upon in the same way that

806
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Speaker 5: like Allende promoting Pinochet is looked back on.

807
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Speaker 2: Just yeah, yeah, it's it's yeah, what how else do

808
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: you describe it?

809
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, if there was going to be a free country,

810
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 5: all of this shit, all of the dhstationcies, all of

811
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 5: this needs to cease to exist as a minimum, and

812
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 5: these people need to be like hauled in front of

813
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 5: a nubberd tribunal and that's that's the minimum viable. There

814
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 5: might be a democracy after that.

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Speaker 2: We need so many Neurembergs.

816
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And like it's not I don't want to

817
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 6: burn a gloat about this. It's not hard to have

818
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 6: seen this coming. We have talked about this four years, right, Like, yeah,

819
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Speaker 6: this began in the nineteen nineties with Operation Gatekeeper, Operation

820
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Speaker 6: Hold the Line. We've documented this extensively. We've documented the

821
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Speaker 6: fact that under the Biden administration there was virtually no oversight,

822
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Speaker 6: right that they were able to detain people outdoors without food, water,

823
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Speaker 6: or shelter and deny that those people were detained. This

824
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 6: is all stuff that we've covered. If it wasn't in

825
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 6: your news diet, then you should question the news sources

826
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Speaker 6: that you were using. But like, it was very easy

827
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Speaker 6: to see this coming, and as Mia said, very little

828
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Speaker 6: was done to prevent it during the last four years.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And somewhat more amusing news during the ongoing trial

830
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Speaker 2: over the different federal agents deployed to Portland and the

831
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Speaker 2: necessity of that federal deployment and potentially the mobilization of

832
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Speaker 2: National Guard troops in Oregon being sent to Portland, which

833
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Speaker 2: is still being fought over in the courts. Portland police

834
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Speaker 2: were brought up on the stand and testified that during

835
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Speaker 2: one night out at Ice, federal officers gassed Portland police

836
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Speaker 2: and fired pepper balls at one officer. And when Portland

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Speaker 2: police confronted federal not ice, sorry, but these are these

838
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Speaker 2: are federal FPS agents outside of the Ice building.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And when Portland police confronted the FPS agents afterwards, they

841
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Speaker 2: responded help or get out of the way.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And this is simply there's no actually, there's no there's

844
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Speaker 2: no rules of engagement, right, rules of engagement for you know,

845
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Speaker 2: soldiers in the like are supposed to be stuff like,

846
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Speaker 2: you don't fire until a certain standard of danger exists, Right,

847
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Speaker 2: you don't. There are rules at which point you were

848
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Speaker 2: allowed to engage with which kinds of weapons? Right Your

849
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Speaker 2: ROI may say one thing about using a night stick

850
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Speaker 2: or mace, and it will say something else about using

851
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Speaker 2: tear gas or whatever. There's no actual RO for these guys.

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00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: They're allowed to just kind of fire whenever they want,

853
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: and they're not well trained. They're not very good at

854
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Speaker 2: what they do. Most of them have not actually had

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Speaker 2: the kind of training I've been supposed to have with

856
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: these weapons systems they're using, and they're just kind of

857
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: firing willy and illy, which is why they've been hitting

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00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: cops repeatedly.

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Speaker 6: Most FS agents are contractors, they're not full time now

860
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Speaker 6: enforcement officers.

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Speaker 3: Right.

862
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 6: Talking of things that it would have been easy to

863
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 6: see coming, I want to talk about ICE's facial recognition app.

864
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Speaker 6: So I've seen a piece in four four Media. Four

865
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Speaker 6: and four media is the most annoying outlet to read

866
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Speaker 6: pieces in because they will send you seventeen emails a day.

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Speaker 6: Four A for media suggests that ICE is claiming a

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Speaker 6: facial recognition match in its app mobile forti fi is

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Speaker 6: a definitive determination of somebody's status. They're quoting here the

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Speaker 6: ranking member of the Householme Land Security Committee, Benny G. Thompson,

871
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Speaker 6: as saying, quote mobile Fortify is a dangerous tool in

872
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 6: the hands of ICE, and it puts to American citizens

873
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 6: a risk of detention and even deportation. He also said

874
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 6: that quote ICE officials have told us that an apparent

875
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 6: biometric match by mobile fortifier is a definitive determination of

876
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 6: a person's status, and that an ICE officer may ignore

877
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 6: evidence of American citizenship, including a birth certificate, if the

878
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 6: app says the person is an alien. ICE using a

879
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 6: mobile biometrics app in this way, in ways its developers

880
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 6: at CVP never intended or tested, is a frightening, repugnant,

881
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 6: and unconstitutional attack on Americans rights and freedoms. Thompson is

882
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 6: misguided if he thinks that like this is new, it

883
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 6: is new, and that's that its impacted US citizens. Yes,

884
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 6: this article, for reasons I cannot explain, does not mention

885
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 6: in CBP one right, and as is often the case

886
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 6: some immigration reporting that we see now, it's completely lacking

887
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 6: in context. The context here is at CBP one is

888
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 6: an app developed in the first Trump administration. It's often

889
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 6: referred to as a Biden app because the definitive political

890
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 6: question of our time is who was present in twenty twenty.

891
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: There's just no way to know.

892
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: It's impossible to say you can't do data on anything

893
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 2: happening that far back.

894
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, I have a new one which is more recent,

895
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 6: which we're going to talk about next.

896
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 3: Groc is real.

897
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 6: But CBP one was effectively determinative for migrants, right. We've

898
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 6: covered this in great detail here. There were some public

899
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 6: records about CBP one that I've looked at extensively. There's

900
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 6: sort of too long didn't READI version is the app

901
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 6: did not work well on Android phones, especially previous generation

902
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 6: Android phones, which are very common among people coming from

903
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 6: the Global South. The face liveness scan. So what the

904
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 6: facial liveness scan does is that let's say Robert is

905
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 6: coming to the US, right, they wanted to check that

906
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 6: the phone is being held by Robert, that it's not

907
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 6: been held someone's not holding up a photograph of Robert

908
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 6: in front of the camera, right, So you sort of

909
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 6: move it around. Then it determines that it's a real

910
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 6: three D face, not a photograph. It really struggled with

911
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 6: black faces. I've seen this firsthand.

912
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: I've all this stuff does. It's the same thing with

913
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: like how there have been like motion activated fossets and

914
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 2: stuff that wouldn't recognize dark skin.

915
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 6: It's a data set that they put in right to understand. Yeah,

916
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 6: the results of those scans were determinative for migrants, right.

917
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 6: It could determine their ability to make an asylum appointment

918
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 6: and therefore to enter the US and make a claim

919
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 6: for asylum. This caused people to remain in various very

920
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 6: dangerous situations. It has probably led to people dying. It's

921
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 6: another example of why we have to pay attention to

922
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 6: the border if we want to know what's come down

923
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 6: the pipe domestically, and talking of shit that is coming

924
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 6: down the pipe from the border domestically. I want to

925
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 6: talk about public lands again because Utah Senator Mike Lee

926
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 6: is back on his bullshit. This time he has another bill.

927
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 6: People will remember that Mike Lee tried to insert in

928
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 6: the budget reconciliation bill a massive sell off of public lands. Right,

929
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 6: And what Lee does is he uses whatever terminology he

930
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 6: thinks will make people support this crusade he has against

931
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 6: land zone by the public for if we want to

932
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 6: access In the last time, he tried to wrap it

933
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 6: up a language about affordable housing. If you read the bill,

934
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 6: you would have seen that there wasn't going to result

935
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 6: in any affordable housing. This time he's wrapping it up

936
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 6: in the language of border security. And this is where

937
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 6: I'm where We're going to return to the defining political

938
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 6: question of our time. Who is President? Because Lee, who

939
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 6: introduced the bell in October of twenty twenty five, said,

940
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 6: and I quote, Biden's open border chaos is destroying a

941
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 6: Marria Wicks, Crown Jewels. Families who want to enjoy a

942
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 6: safe hike or camp out are instead finding trash piles,

943
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 6: burn landscapes, and trails closed because rangers are stuck clearing

944
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 6: up the fallout. Cartails are exploiting the disorder, using these

945
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 6: lands as cover for their operation. This bill gifts land

946
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 6: managers and border agents the tools to restore order and

947
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 6: protect these places for the people they were meant to serve.

948
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 6: Diligent observers will notice that Biden is no longer the

949
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 6: president of the United States, and further, diligent observers will

950
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 6: notice that many people currently working for the federal government

951
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 6: on public lands are being laid off or furloughed due

952
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 6: to the government shutdown. What Lee's bill would do is

953
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 6: allow dhs to identify illegal roads in public land areas

954
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 6: and then to upgrade them to navigable roads. This is

955
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 6: important because the nineteen sixty four Wilderness Act doesn't allow

956
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 6: motorized access to wilderness areas, and what Lee is proposing

957
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 6: is that they would identify these illegal roads within one

958
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 6: hundred mile zone. He is proposing a blanket change to

959
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 6: the nineteen sixty four Wildness Act to allow the construction

960
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 6: of roads, which would completely change the nature of wilderness

961
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 6: in the United States, and sometimes a slip reslow argument

962
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 6: can also be a fallacy, but in this case, building

963
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 6: roads into the wilderness will permanently change the nature of

964
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 6: their wilderness and will lead to other losses of protection

965
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 6: on public land. Lee makes the argument that it's important

966
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 6: for search and rescue and for border access. There is

967
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 6: already mechanized access for search and rescue. They give search

968
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 6: and rescue helicopters, for instance, can access wilderness areas that

969
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 6: they have agreements in place with land management agencies which

970
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 6: allow them to do this already. When there is a

971
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 6: risk to human life. The bill also talks about removing

972
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 6: invasive species and reducing fire risk by removing fire fuels

973
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 6: down by the border. Again, I'm guessing what this would

974
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 6: do would be This would I mean if you fire

975
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 6: fuels like look at the southern border near where I live, right,

976
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 6: Like think of the California sage brush chaparral. Like, clearing

977
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 6: fire fuels there would completely change that landscape forever. It

978
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 6: would remove much of the value that this wilderness has

979
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 6: not as untouched. Right, people have lived in this area

980
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 6: for tenths of thousands of years, and that they have

981
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 6: touched that nature, and they have lived alongside it and

982
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 6: worked with it. But it is an area that is

983
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 6: significantly less damaged than most of the United States. Right.

984
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 6: The bill would also inventory fires and damage to wilderness

985
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 6: caused by migrants. I guess this is just an attempt

986
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 6: to say another bad thing about migrants. It also prohibits

987
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 6: any housing of migrants on federal lands unless it is

988
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 6: in a prison. It's Lee taking this border hawk stuff

989
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 6: and strapping it onto this crusade that he has been

990
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 6: on for a long time to deprive people in the

991
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 6: United States and people visiting the United States have access

992
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 6: to their public lands and eventually to sell those lands

993
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 6: off to the highest bidder. He introduced it on October second.

994
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 6: It's in the committee stage right now. This probably is

995
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 6: one of the things that folks could call a representative

996
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 6: about and suggest it's a very bad idea. Talking to

997
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 6: bad ideas. Ma daughter has announced the formation of an

998
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 6: international brigade to defend his incredibly corupt regime in Venezuela.

999
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 6: I say this is someone who has been to Venezuela

1000
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 6: and written a PhD about the Spanish Civil War. This

1001
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 6: is a very bad idea. Don't do this.

1002
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 4: This is.

1003
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 6: Maduro does not need your help. Fuck that guy talking

1004
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 6: of things that don't need your help. Here are some adverts.

1005
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 3: I can't believe you're throwing the People's Republic of Venezuela

1006
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 3: under the bus like that as they're facing down war

1007
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: with the United States of America.

1008
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 6: Right now standing in the breach against imperialism. Yeah, I

1009
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 6: read a lot about it.

1010
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 3: What happened is hashtag solidarity. Jane.

1011
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. I read about it on the Gray Zone

1012
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 6: and I'm changing my opinions. Having spent more time than

1013
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 6: I'm sure half the staff of the Gray Zone in Venezuela.

1014
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 5: Speaking of Spooky. The ship Trump's getting is part of

1015
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 5: pair of negotiations Woo.

1016
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 3: Jazz Jazz Party, Jazz.

1017
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 4: Jazz bar.

1018
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 5: All right, So, as we talked about last week, Trump

1019
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 5: has been in East Asia to do a bunch of

1020
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 5: meetings for conversations already happening. And this is where terrific

1021
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 5: negotiations have been being handled. This has been being held

1022
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 5: in South Korea. South Korean President Lee Jmjung presented Trump

1023
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 5: with South Korea's highest honor and also gave him a

1024
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 5: giant golden crown. Have you all seen the giant golden crowd?

1025
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 5: It's that easy, folks.

1026
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: All you gotta do, It's all you gotta do is

1027
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 3: just these little stupid things, and then he loves you,

1028
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 3: giant gilded crowd.

1029
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 6: I haven't seen the crown. I'm gonna look at the crown.

1030
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 5: Look up the crowd. I am beseeching you all yet.

1031
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 5: I however big you think this crown is? It is

1032
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 5: way larger than that it is?

1033
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 6: Oh wow, yeah, no, it's Jesus wow. It's like the

1034
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,959
Speaker 6: sizeaball fire hydran. Yeah. Maybe they directly, they directly took

1035
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 6: the one that they took from Prince Andrew for being

1036
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 6: a nonce and melted it down.

1037
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 3: It's really something now.

1038
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 5: Now, Lee Jamiung is a name you might recognize because

1039
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 5: he's the guy who was famous for that video of

1040
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 5: climbing over the fence to stop the coup last year.

1041
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 5: And one year later he's giving Trump what I think

1042
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 5: might be the largest crown I have ever seen. Now,

1043
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 5: this crown is being described as quote a gilded replica.

1044
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 5: So I don't know how much of this is actually gold.

1045
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 5: I suspect it's gold paint or whatever. I don't know.

1046
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 3: I do not have confirmation on it. But you know,

1047
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 3: great great things happening.

1048
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 5: In in sort of like a revolutionary anti coup movement,

1049
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 5: which has ended giving Trump the giant golden crown. Yeah,

1050
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 5: and apparently and they got like a kind of favorable,

1051
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 5: sort of okay ish kind of trade deal out of

1052
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 5: out of out of giving the President of the United

1053
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 5: States giant golden crown. So, in terms of tariff news,

1054
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 5: while in China, Trump had his long awaited beating lucijian.

1055
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 3: Ping, they struck a deal.

1056
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 5: Trump decreased the quote unquote it's an all tariffs to

1057
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 5: ten percent, which leaves the tariff right for all Chinese

1058
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 5: goods at forty seven percent, down from its previous fifty

1059
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 5: seven percent. China has agreed to not do Rare Earth's

1060
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 5: mineral restrictions that we talked about last week, and has

1061
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 5: also pledged by US soybeans. Again, it's deeply unclear how

1062
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 5: much of this is actually going to happen. I think

1063
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 5: my guess is that they probably won't do the harshest

1064
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 5: of the mineral restrictions, but I will believe the soybean

1065
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 5: purchases when I see it, and I haven't seen it yet.

1066
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 5: There's also been some interesting use out of the Senate

1067
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 5: where there's been a couple of symbolic votes against some

1068
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 5: sets of tariffs. The Senate voted fifty to forty six

1069
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 5: to end the state of emergency that supposedly allows Trump

1070
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 5: to do the Canada tariffs, and also voted to block

1071
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 5: tariffs against Brazil. The four people who voted against both

1072
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 5: of these who voted with the Democrats are Mitch McConnell,

1073
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 5: Rand Paul, Susan Collins, and Lisa Morowski. Which it kind

1074
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 5: of makes sense because Collins and Morowski are supposed to

1075
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 5: lead the two moderates. Rand Paul is like just hates tariffs. Yeah,

1076
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 5: he's a free trade hardliner.

1077
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: Who.

1078
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 5: Whatever I talk about this, I will say he has

1079
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 5: had as much as all of this is his fault.

1080
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 5: He has had one great light, ever, which is I

1081
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 5: have a trade deficit with my grocery store.

1082
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 3: Actually really good. Is he like an Austrian like economists,

1083
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 3: like libertarian type, like like, I know he's like a

1084
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 3: libertarian guy. I'm just trying to figure out what specific flavor.

1085
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 5: He's like an he's like one of the Austrian like

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Speaker 5: gold standards, but also like those people are still free

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Speaker 5: trade people, like really hardline.

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Speaker 3: Last time I heard Charlie Kirk talk in person, he

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Speaker 3: was debating like five Austrian economists the most annoying people.

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Speaker 2: Mean, like, honestly, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. That

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Speaker 2: sounds like, yeah, that sounds like why would you agree

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Speaker 2: to do that, especially if you're already rich. I don't

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Speaker 2: understand that. I don't understand it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: Okay, it's just a work notting though that despite these votes,

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Speaker 5: none of this is going to take effect because the

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Speaker 5: House right now effectively does not exist as a legislative body. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't exist in general because they keep not calling

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Speaker 5: sessions because every time they try to call a session,

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Speaker 5: the Democrats in the one political theater thing that like

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Speaker 5: is kind of a good idea, but they're so bad

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Speaker 5: at it. They keep being like, you have to release

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Speaker 5: the Epstein files, and the Republicans keep being like, no,

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Speaker 5: so we kind of don't have a House of Representatives.

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Speaker 2: I keep thinking about that one scene from Mars Attacks

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Speaker 2: with the presidents, like, you've still got two out of

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Speaker 2: three branches a government, and that ain't bad.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, we have.

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Speaker 3: We basically have one branch of government. We have one

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Speaker 3: branch of Yeah, we have one branch of governments, and.

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Speaker 2: Like, but that doesn't work as a Mars Attacks Joe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But and also it's worth noting the House voted to

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Speaker 5: not allow any tariff legislation until March twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 5: a thing that it could apparently do. It is totally normal.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Oh well, yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, so speak of things are totally normal.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna close this with Trump getting mad at Canada

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Speaker 5: because he saw an ad they were running.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, series that was God, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was a bunch of clips of Ronald Reagan being like,

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Speaker 5: Tariff's bad because Reagan. Reagan's domestic protectionism took the form

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Speaker 5: of currency to evaluations and not tariffs, et.

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Speaker 3: Cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: But like, yeah, so and and and Trump saw this

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Speaker 5: lost his mind, said that it was Ai. There's a

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Speaker 5: whole saga here about him claiming that it was like

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Speaker 5: also unauthorized usage of footage, which is a fiasco. And

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Speaker 5: then also all of the terror negotiations that have been

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Speaker 5: happening to the US and Canada have been called off

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Speaker 5: and he just put another ten percent terriff on them

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Speaker 5: because he was.

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Speaker 3: Mad about it.

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Speaker 5: Which yeah, totally, you know, I I totally absolutely a

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Speaker 5: thing that like an elected head of government does, and

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Speaker 5: not a a guy who just received a massive golden crown.

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Speaker 3: Ah Garo said, that's not a blue Jay's hat. But

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Speaker 3: you know this is a blue Jay's hat. Mia, How

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Speaker 3: fucking dare you try to she'splain my own, my own country, myself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Toronto's team.

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Speaker 6: Garrison's wearing a hat for those who are not working

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Speaker 6: for cool as any media.

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Speaker 3: It's the Toronto Blue Jays. Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Toronto blue was the Toronto Blue Jays.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's not a j on it.

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Speaker 3: Why, well, no, it just has the maple leaf.

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Speaker 6: But it's only three points. It's not a not a

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Speaker 6: traditional maple leaf.

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Speaker 3: James, are you gonna Are you gonna she explain my

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Speaker 3: own country to.

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Speaker 6: Me, Garrison when it comes to birds and leaves.

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Speaker 5: I am going to canada'splain to you it rocks. Yeah,

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01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 5: but that's fun. That's just how tariff policy is set. Now,

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Speaker 5: is you pissed off the king and he decided to

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Speaker 5: put a teriff?

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Speaker 3: This is.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't really know how to do

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Speaker 5: analysis of the fact that we just have a child

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Speaker 5: king setting terriff. Polsy, It's it's great.

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Speaker 3: Look quick fact jacket. Do you read can you read this? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 3: It does say read this genuine m LB merchandise. Okay,

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Speaker 3: wow wow wow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They would ever put that in. Fake MLB merchandise wouldn't allowed.

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Speaker 6: I've never seen any genuine MLB merchandise in markets in

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Speaker 6: a Rocks for example.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, I'm the owner of a proud Fixing GM

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Speaker 2: shirt that I bought in a market in there.

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, all right, everybody, Okay. I think

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Speaker 3: it's politically important for the Blue Jays to win the

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Speaker 3: World series and contribute to the American Century of Humiliation.

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Speaker 2: James, I still have my my Tumberland boots that I

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Speaker 2: bought in Syria.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have a five dot one dot one jacket.

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Speaker 6: Oh and I've got it.

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Speaker 2: I got a greater Adotis track suit when I was

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Speaker 2: in Istanbul.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to do this fed election right now?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let's do it now. Let's talk about talking of

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01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 6: things which are not as they seem. California Attorney General,

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01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 6: look at that Charason. That is why they pay me

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01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 6: the medium bugs. California Attorney General Rob Bonter.

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Speaker 2: Is warning such a fake guess name. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, Garrison is wearing that hat for those not watching

1187
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 6: this podcast on top of the head in the fashion

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01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 6: of affairs, California Attorney General Rob Bonte is wannering about

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Speaker 6: election interference by the federal government. The federal government has

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Speaker 6: sent monitors to California to a number of different counties

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Speaker 6: in California in order to monitor the elections that are

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Speaker 6: happening here on the fourth of November. To be clear,

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Speaker 6: federal monitoring is not uncommon. The Biden administration did it

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Speaker 6: in more than eighty places in twenty twenty four. For example,

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Speaker 6: but BoNT seems convinced this monitoring is going to lead

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01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 6: to election denial, elector interference. Here's Gavin Newsom talking on

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01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 6: X about this.

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Speaker 4: So today the Trump administration announced they're sending election monitors

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Speaker 4: to five specific counties here in the state of California.

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Speaker 4: They have no business doing that, they have no basis

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Speaker 4: to do that. In fact, we have a state wide

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Speaker 4: election for a statewide constitution. This is about voter intimidation.

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Speaker 4: This is about voter suppression, period, full stop. And it's

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Speaker 4: a pattern, isn't it. It's consistent with what they've done

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Speaker 4: with the federalization of the National Guard and the intimidation

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Speaker 4: of the chill that that's created. They'll do that right

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Speaker 4: around election day as well. Same thing with ice and

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Speaker 4: Border patrol. Mass men watch that space showing up in

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Speaker 4: and around polling booths and voting places. But this is

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Speaker 4: a bridge too far, and I hope people understand it's

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Speaker 4: a bridge that they're trying to build a scaffolding for

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Speaker 4: all across this country and next Novembers election. They do

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Speaker 4: not believe in fair and free elections. Our republic, our

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Speaker 4: democracy is on the line.

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Speaker 6: We all need to wake up I'm actually a lot

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 6: more concerned with the stuff around, and I think he's

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01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 6: probably right that we will see like more federal agents

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Speaker 6: around polling places in election time. What California was doing

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Speaker 6: in response is assigning monitors to monitor the federal monitors,

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Speaker 6: which will be interesting and it seems unusual, right for

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Speaker 6: the federal monitors be monitoring. Thinks that one of the

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Speaker 6: things that's on the ballot this year is Prop fifty right,

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Speaker 6: which would redistrict California. It's jerry mandering, so gerry mandering

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Speaker 6: proposition to.

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Speaker 2: It's revenge gerrymandering character Jerry. The bill is specifically we

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Speaker 2: not we're going to do this, but we're going to

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Speaker 2: do this if there's redistricting in Texas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's it's yes, it's an attempt to rectify

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Speaker 6: the very obvious jule gerrymandering Texas.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of mad mutually asserted destruction is applied to

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Speaker 2: Jerry Man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Neither of these things are great. That's

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Speaker 6: here we are. I think that's what I had on

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Speaker 6: this essentially cool yep. I think that that's uh.

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Speaker 2: Eisode, that's where we're at, all, right, everybody.

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Speaker 6: Well until.

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Speaker 3: Breaking breaking autism news God Texas is suing Thailand all

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Speaker 3: specifically a pharmacistic company Johnston Johnson for marketing tile and

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01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 3: all the pregnant women and failing to disclose. But a

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Speaker 3: turny General Can Paxton calls quote a significantly increased risk

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01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 3: of autism and other disorders unquote.

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Speaker 6: They don't market it to pregnant women like geremaly.

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01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: It says like if I'm not mistaken, it says on

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01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: the bottles, don't take if your nurse pregnant.

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Speaker 6: We covered this in a previous episode. But like geermity,

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01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 6: drugs are not very few drugs are marketed to pregnant people, right,

1247
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 6: be the women or otherwise.

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01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, the only thing you're supposed to take is

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Speaker 2: a pregnant woman is cocaine, and you got to make

1250
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Speaker 2: sure it's pure.

1251
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 3: Non binary people thought you can take anything.

1252
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you're If you're not pregnant, it's

1253
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: okay to do whatever.

1254
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: If you are pregnant, no, other women, it's okay, go.

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Speaker 2: Right hell yeah yeah sure, yes, wait, No, I don't

1257
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: think that that's.

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Speaker 3: How it works.

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01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 6: Transmasting double yeah yeah yeah true.

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Speaker 2: I think if you have a fetus gest stating in

1261
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: you You're only supposed to do cocaine.

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Speaker 3: Definitely the least autistic for people non binary people. Yeah, definitely, definitely,

1263
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,479
Speaker 3: they can just take whatever or do or do take whatever.

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01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, too many drugs like like they'll they'll say that

1265
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 6: you should consult with it with your doctor.

1266
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 3: Consulted doctor.

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01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, and none of them are risk free. But it's

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01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 6: it's it's a cost benefit analysis.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: We covered this the autism and Thailand all like correlation

1271
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 3: versus causation based on that one sweeter se this is

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Speaker 3: I'm interested to see how Johnston Johnson argues this in

1273
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 3: court and if that will have effects across, you know,

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01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,959
Speaker 3: the rest of the Trump administration's anti Thailand all push,

1275
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 3: if they're able to successfully defend their product against Ken Paxton,

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01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 3: so critical support to Thailand.

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Speaker 2: All I guess welcome to the resistance Big Pharma Jesus.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if people listen to more and that we can

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01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 6: get back and find out previous episode.

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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, until next time, try not to be

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Speaker 2: on a fishing boat anywhere south of the US southern border.

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01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 2: It's not safe right now.

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Speaker 3: Good luck trick or treating, Happy Halloween, Yeah, goove trick or.

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Speaker 2: Treating it's not safe right now.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, don't be trick or treating in a boat.

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Speaker 3: This year, we've reported the news that sucks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we reported the news.

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Speaker 3: It could happen. Here is a production of cool Zone Media.

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