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Speaker 1: Country Mortgage Campus in Burrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: Daily on esp in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo

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Speaker 1: Bishop and Nathan Ziggura. Let's do it live on the

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Speaker 1: first Friday edition of the program. All right, you get it,

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Speaker 1: sword out you better, your connection, better your mic son.

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Speaker 1: So that's who we have. That which is good? Can

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Speaker 1: you hear me? Here? Is like static electricity? Static electricity

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Speaker 1: not great? You want to try this one? I'll just

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Speaker 1: go with that fun. This is good, this will work,

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Speaker 1: this will win. It's about a week, brother. Yeah, did

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Speaker 1: you have a fresh dome? Usually fresh dome it on Monday? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I did it. I did it, uh yesterday after our

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Speaker 1: great trip down the university hospitals and stuff. Got myself

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Speaker 1: right because I like to having a couple of days

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Speaker 1: of growth before I'm on the camera. So you know, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: we take a little bit for Sunday, and then Sunday

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Speaker 1: we'll be ready to go. This is different from your

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Speaker 1: normal pattern. The pattern was always Sunday or Monday morning

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Speaker 1: right in the preseason that you hit this and this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is all done altogether. That's yeah, knew it was

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Speaker 1: a one time shot. You want to do it once.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Tuesday feels like a good day. Do

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Speaker 1: we have Stefanski? Okay, well, I guess stefanskis at the podium,

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Speaker 1: but now, fantastic. There you go ANFC opponent. Both teams

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Speaker 1: two and two understand what's at stake, and I think

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Speaker 1: the guys are really understanding who this team is that

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Speaker 1: we're facing. Because weekend and week out, it changes the

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Speaker 1: personel changes, a scheme, change changes week to week. So

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Speaker 1: really diving in right now on this Chargers team. They're

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Speaker 1: well coached, very similar, were similar. They're similar obviously till

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Speaker 1: last year. There's some new faces in there on both sides.

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Speaker 1: So you do have the tape from last season when

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Speaker 1: we played them early. Uh, a lot of games in

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Speaker 1: between for both sides to look at as well. I

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Speaker 1: think what you start with with their defense, Uh, some

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Speaker 1: really good players. Number one Khalil Mack, who gone against

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Speaker 1: the Bears. Uh. In the back end, just Derwin James

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Speaker 1: You really have to know where he is. And then

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Speaker 1: he's just an active football player. I think it's sixteen

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Speaker 1: tackles versus US last season, so really good football player,

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Speaker 1: multiple fronts, multiple coverages, impressive group defense, excuse me, offensively

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Speaker 1: number one pass offense. So that gets your tension right away.

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Speaker 1: Very good quarterback, as we all know, good young quarterback, accurate,

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Speaker 1: strong arm, makes great decisions, athletic, still moving around really

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Speaker 1: well despite the injury. But you really don't see that

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Speaker 1: affecting his play. Um weapons on the perimeter, a really

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Speaker 1: good running back who can hurt you in a bunch

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Speaker 1: of different ways, a good tight end you know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So it's an impressive group across the board. Sounds special team,

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Speaker 1: so uh really getting to know this team right now,

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Speaker 1: diving in understanding some of the adjustments that we're gonna

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Speaker 1: make on on offense, defense, special teams. Uh in this game.

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Speaker 1: Put putting together a plan so guys can go play

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Speaker 1: fast on Sunday. And with that, I'll take any questions today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he'll be out there, but we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 1: But he'll He'll be out there pretty good in the

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Speaker 1: first three quarters of games this year, in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: it's the worst of the NFL. Buy a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different metrics. What do you make of that? What's happening there? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: obviously you're trying to play four quarters of football offense, defense,

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Speaker 1: special teams, and unfortunately we've had some issues in the

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Speaker 1: we just got to continue to play sound football, get

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Speaker 1: that's execu second half and at end, Yeah, I thought,

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Speaker 1: the first step, Jeff and and getting him out there

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Speaker 1: So get him into practice, get him some place here

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Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things we understood that guys

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Speaker 1: bit more than they're used to. UM. But that's just

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Speaker 1: I think young players just get better with more and

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Speaker 1: just can drive every throw can can throw with anticipation

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Speaker 1: lock in for sixty minutes. It's a it's a prerequisite

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Speaker 1: when that play that's uh, you know, gonna turn the tide.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna occur. So try locking in for six minutes

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Speaker 1: is always going to be an important part of this game. Monday,

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Speaker 1: of those easier uh to correct any other. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would tell you, Jeff, Obviously, when you're playing good defense,

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of what we saw there last week.

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Speaker 1: There's certain bench marks you're looking at for both Miles

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Speaker 1: don't know that he's taken on a bigger role. He's

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Speaker 1: a chase player. So he's a big part of their defense. Scott,

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Speaker 1: I think Marla, you know, with it just goes back

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Speaker 1: The fact that with Justin Herbert like, he recognizes those

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Speaker 1: So getting aligned is really important. And you know, it's

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Speaker 1: doubly important when you're at home in our building, which

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Speaker 1: is really really loud when we're on defense, So all

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Speaker 1: that nonverbal communication at home is really important. Even some

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Speaker 1: of Miles in the game and maybe even some of Jadavian,

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Speaker 1: if they could only play a certain percentage of the

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Speaker 1: that's very same. Yes, those guys mean to the run defense,

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Speaker 1: you're always asking the general manager, Hey, give me more

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Speaker 1: great players, makes you a better coach. But with those

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Speaker 1: and I think it shows up in the run end

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Speaker 1: I can't believe we got a nooner here. Friday, UM

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Speaker 1: game to Saturday would be a nooner as well, and

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Speaker 1: then Sunday, if necessary, would be four oh seven. So

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Speaker 1: the Guardians being done a little wrong there with a

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Speaker 1: noons start on a Friday. You're not that's not great.

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Speaker 1: People knew that was coming, though, I wonder why. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I guess the television windows. I suppose there's

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Speaker 1: a reason to be like, if you play a hundred

432
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Speaker 1: and sixty two games and you make the wild Card,

433
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 1: play it at night. Yeah, play him at seven o'clock.

434
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,719
Speaker 1: The all season it's been that way other than the weekends.

435
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Speaker 1: Randomly play a Friday game at twelve or seven seems

436
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Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. The other thing I wanted to because it

437
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,959
Speaker 1: went viral last night a little bit. The way that

438
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Speaker 1: the judge thing did got the boys to bed was

439
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Speaker 1: seeing what I missed over the course of football practice

440
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Speaker 1: and dinner and getting them to bed. Did I miss anything?

441
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Speaker 1: Which is probably more of me problem than anything else.

442
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Speaker 1: And I see all of this about this wemban Yama.

443
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Speaker 1: So you know this kid is, alright, Victor weimban Yanna

444
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 1: is the presumptive number one pick in next year's NBA draft. Okay,

445
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Speaker 1: And he said some other guy would be the first

446
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Speaker 1: pick if he that wasn't born. It's a good line.

447
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,479
Speaker 1: So he's the reason that remember windhorsed what's going on

448
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: in Utah? That's this kid's the reason, the reason that

449
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: the Spurs traded Deonte Murray. All of this, those teams

450
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: are positioning themselves to draft this dude number one over all,

451
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Speaker 1: This French kid, Victor we Yama, which is a great name.

452
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Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, he must be a unicorn in

453
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Speaker 1: order for there to be this much attention on a

454
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Speaker 1: kid who's seventeen eighteen years old. So apparently last night

455
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Speaker 1: he played the G League You Need Unite as a

456
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Speaker 1: kid on the other team was going to go second

457
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Speaker 1: the Scoot Henderson or something like that. That's not the

458
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Speaker 1: point of the story. Can I find it? I turn

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Speaker 1: it on? When Ban Yama, Okay, his seven ft five

460
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Speaker 1: and he's a guard. But is he fast? It doesn't

461
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Speaker 1: need to be. You can take four steps, he takes one.

462
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: He hits seven threes. Okay, So it's like if Durant

463
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Speaker 1: were six inches tall, is he like whatzingis is supposed

464
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Speaker 1: to be? Uh? He looks his body type. So this

465
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Speaker 1: would be the red flag for me because seven five,

466
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Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of list of those guys

467
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Speaker 1: who remained healthy historically, going all the way back to Sampson,

468
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Speaker 1: Sampson back in the eighties. It's just really really hard.

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Speaker 1: Twin Towers. Twin Towers. Absolutely, Um, he's seven five and

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Speaker 1: he shoots it from ft. He looks like he's not

471
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Speaker 1: of this planet. That's crazy. Yeah, looks like yeah playing guard,

472
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Speaker 1: except he plays guard. It's crazy. So do you think

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Speaker 1: who's he gonna guard? That's my question? Just kind of

474
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Speaker 1: stand I think you can? I mean, so he closed

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Speaker 1: out on like a three and he's so tall that

476
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Speaker 1: he could that he gets out there. Yeah, it's fascinating,

477
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Speaker 1: and I you know, I'm always you always think back

478
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Speaker 1: to just it's really just so hard for those guys

479
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Speaker 1: ultra tall to stay healthy. But it also reminded me

480
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Speaker 1: of how old we are, because we're of an age

481
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Speaker 1: that if you were ever tall, go on the block,

482
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Speaker 1: do a power dribble. When we do post moves, we

483
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Speaker 1: used to do that in practice. Remember, like the bigs

484
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Speaker 1: would have to go and do post moves while we

485
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Speaker 1: and out. Time to meet the Los Angeles Chargers two

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Speaker 1: and two on the season as they come in. Local

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Speaker 1: guy brand Stalley leading that team in his second year.

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Speaker 1: My friend, ye, are you on? I don't think you're on?

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Speaker 1: The go down? Alright? Good? This is a good football team.

512
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: This is a fun football team. This team has eight

513
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: guys who were in the NFL's top one a year ago.

514
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Speaker 1: It feels about right, that's the most in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We won't see all of them because no Joey Bosa,

516
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Speaker 1: Norah Shawn Slater, so will only be seeing six of them,

517
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Speaker 1: but it's still a very good team. They won last

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Speaker 1: week their losses to the Kansas City Chiefs and then

519
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Speaker 1: a shocking blowout loss at home to the Jacksonville jaguarst

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Speaker 1: eight to ten. Uh the Chargers thirteen and oh all

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Speaker 1: time against the Cleveland Browns when they scored twenty five

522
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Speaker 1: or more points. Cheez. They lead the series eighteen nine

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Speaker 1: and one. The last time we played last year forty two.

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Speaker 1: Also in Week five in l A. By the way,

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Speaker 1: that was the highest scoring game the NFL last year.

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Speaker 1: Eighty nine combined points in that one, like four times

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Speaker 1: this year already. Yeah, the lines are like whatever, we

528
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Speaker 1: laugh at you. Last year for them against US Herbert

529
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Speaker 1: three eight nine, four touchdowns passing, ran for a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: Eckler sixty six rushing yards, two touchdowns, rushing for fifty

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Speaker 1: three and a touchdown receiving Mike Williams had a hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty five and two touchdowns on a couple of

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Speaker 1: those pesky blown coverages right there. This is again in

534
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Speaker 1: excellent offensive football team. They are the number one passing

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Speaker 1: offense in the NFL. They have given up the fewest

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Speaker 1: number of sacks in the entire NFL only four. The Browns,

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Speaker 1: by the way second in that with five. They are aggressive.

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Speaker 1: They have five fourth down conversions already. And if you

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Speaker 1: go back to that game a year ago, remember they

540
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: went for it like on their own twenties to start

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Speaker 1: the second half, and then they went for twice on

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Speaker 1: that drive and got it Herbert ran in the touchdown

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Speaker 1: actually right there. Um. And so this is just a

544
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: darn good offensive football team. That's the bottom line. They

545
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: are excellent now defensively, They've got a lot of good names,

546
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: but they have not necessarily been a great defensive football team.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, they are an awful, awful run defense.

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Speaker 1: And so what do I mean by that, Well, let's

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Speaker 1: get into some advanced metric show. What is their achilles

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Speaker 1: heel is a run defense so far this year? Well,

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Speaker 1: they are allowing seven point five yards per carry outside

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Speaker 1: the tackles. That is I'm sorry, at some point nine

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Speaker 1: yards per carry on Russias outside the tackles. That is

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Speaker 1: dead lass in the NFL. Where are the Browns at

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Speaker 1: their best rushing outside the tackles? That's right, they are

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Speaker 1: doing that as well as anybody in the NFL. Nick

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Speaker 1: Chubb right now, eighty five point eight percent of his

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Speaker 1: total rush yards in two have come outside the tackle.

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Speaker 1: So we've got a team that runs the ball outside

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Speaker 1: better than anybody in the league against a defense that

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Speaker 1: struggles to stop the outside run more than anybody in

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Speaker 1: the league. This is similar to when we talked about

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Speaker 1: that game against the Pittsburgh Steelers where they were struggling

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Speaker 1: on the outside, especially with the loss of t J.

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Speaker 1: That's where this team struggles. I think we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to gash them last year by the way

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Speaker 1: we played them Week five, outside the tackles, we ran

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Speaker 1: for two hundred and nine yards alone. So this is

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Speaker 1: obviously a very good matchup for us running the football.

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Speaker 1: But defensively, they've got some stars, folks, They've got some stars,

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Speaker 1: and it's a new look defense. You talk about their

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Speaker 1: starters upfront, uh in their three down linemen to new

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Speaker 1: defensive starters. Their ends are are their rushers, both new starters,

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Speaker 1: Cleil mac and Bosa with both out, it's Cleil Mack

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Speaker 1: and Kyle van Noy, who had a few good years

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots. Um, they've got maybe the best corner

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Speaker 1: tannem Or one of them in the league, Asante Samuel Jr.

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Speaker 1: In his second season after a great rookie. And then

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Speaker 1: they brought in J. C. Jackson who just leads the

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Speaker 1: NFL in interceptions and since he's been in the league,

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Speaker 1: they brought in Bryce Callahan as well to play the

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Speaker 1: slot of veteran slot corner there in his eighth season.

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Speaker 1: And then on the back end and the safeties, this

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Speaker 1: here Adderlie who has been very good for them, and

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00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: then Derwin James Pro Bowl or a year ago and

586
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: just an absolute stud who can blitz, he can cover,

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00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: he can play the run, he can he is a

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Speaker 1: very disruptive and a very very good good defense player.

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00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: Now they have given up twenty seven a game, third

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Speaker 1: most in the NFL. So the Browns have got to

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00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: be very good, uh in situations where they can score

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Speaker 1: the football. That's where I think is going to be

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Speaker 1: the key for them in this game. We saw it

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Speaker 1: last week. He struggle in the Red Zony struggle near

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Speaker 1: the goal line. You're going to struggle to win football games,

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Speaker 1: and that is especially true against this team. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting when you when you look at them and

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Speaker 1: they've they've had their fair share of injuries. It's really

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Speaker 1: stupefying the way they got drilled at home by Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: It's wild how they got things happened in this league.

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Speaker 1: But like you know, at the time of that, they're

602
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Speaker 1: coming off of the it's the heartbreak on Thursday night

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Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. They got ten days. He's really banged up.

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Speaker 1: Their Pro Bowl center and All Pro center Corey Linsley

605
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Speaker 1: didn't play that week. Slater goes out in the middle

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Speaker 1: of that game, but they were already getting the defense

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Speaker 1: like it's yeah, and they were being boat raced right

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Speaker 1: out of the game. Their defense was just it struggled.

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00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: Bosa went out in the middle of that game. I

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Speaker 1: do think we can dictate to this football team when

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Speaker 1: we have the ball. I think the formula is gonna

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Speaker 1: be very similar to last week. Possess the football, keep

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Speaker 1: them on the sidelines. Brother, that's our formula always. Right now,

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Speaker 1: it is a little bit, I mean, with this incarnation,

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Speaker 1: I think that's the it's it's that. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: why we're right at that thirty total touches Chubb hunt

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Speaker 1: every week because in them for thirty five minutes. That

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Speaker 1: is absurd. Like the fact that we are possessed the

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Speaker 1: ball on average thirty five minutes a game and we're

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Speaker 1: two and two. Is a ridiculous, ridiculous outcome. We need

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Speaker 1: to be better than that. We should be better than that.

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, we have not been better than that. As

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Speaker 1: we know we are what our record is. But this

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Speaker 1: is a team that we should be able to physically

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Speaker 1: dominate up front. We should be able to run the

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Speaker 1: ball on them. Now there they cover, well, that's gonna

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00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: be the interesting thing. This is a decent, very good,

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Speaker 1: good secondary. Now without Bosa, you know, maybe they're not

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Speaker 1: quite as good, but you saw even seek Damian Pierce

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Speaker 1: had that seventy five yard touchdown run against them. That's

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Speaker 1: where I think we're gonna have to do our damage.

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Speaker 1: Keep Herbert on the sidelines, and then we cannot give

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Speaker 1: up the big place. If they want to check it

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Speaker 1: down to Austin Ekeler. You know he can have his

635
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: six yards a catch, fine, but we cannot let Mike Williams,

636
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: who leads the league in receptions of more than forty

637
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: yards over the last year and a half. We cannot

638
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: let him get deep like he did against us in

639
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: that first game. No, not at all, it's it's so

640
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: last week. What would you have had this in their

641
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: win over Houston without looking? Can you can you what's

642
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: your best guests on how many times Houston ran the

643
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: ball against the Chargers Damien Pierce and he's the only

644
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: one who carried the ball. That doesn't happen anymore. I

645
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: want to say he was like twenty four for like

646
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: one sixteen and a touchdown. That make you feel good

647
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: if it was twenty four, it was only fourteen oh

648
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: fourteen carries a hundred and thirty one a touchdown in

649
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: the touch but only fourteen times now behind and drives

650
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: and some is terrible. Yeah, yes, yes, but that the

651
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: so that that's interesting because I was trying to think

652
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: when you when you think about kind of a probably

653
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: the model for us beating them is actually Jacksonville. They

654
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: drilled them, they bullied them. They ran it thirty six

655
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: times for one with Robinson and again, and so that's

656
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: that's it. It's that's your number. You know, you think

657
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: about that. You know we do that every week and

658
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: over unders like you you're at that thirty five point five,

659
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: thirty four point five number for Chubb and Hunt. That

660
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: is it. That's the recipe here because anything else it

661
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: ain't gonna work. I think it's gonna be, you know,

662
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: one of the things. It's obviously been a hot topic

663
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: of conversation this week in this effort of you know,

664
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: inside the five, go for three, go for six, um.

665
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: It does feel like with this against this group, you

666
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: need sevens. Yeah, you know, and I think we'll be

667
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: aggressive in that respect again this year, which I know

668
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, people are gonna be all

669
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: up in arms. But I completely agree that you are

670
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: going to need to have those. I think that's an

671
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: abs a lout. That's a fact. That's a fact. You

672
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: are going to have to have those. It's amazing how

673
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: disinterested they are in running the football. You just pull up.

674
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: You know what happens for them. Weeks cleared like sixty

675
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: yards last weekend. That was I think more than he

676
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: had in like the first three games combined. I mean

677
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: it's been crazy. Yeah, they win, they win their opener. Um.

678
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: They beat the Raiders in the opener and exceler was

679
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: fourteen carries thirty six they did try in the opener,

680
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: it was they tried thirty one times to run the ball.

681
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: They had seventy six yards against the Raiders in the opener,

682
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: and then from that point on they just have not

683
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: been interested in doing so. And it's one of those

684
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: things with Staley, I think, you know, he looks out

685
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: there and he sees this this Herbert dude who can

686
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: put it anywhere, and you're like, let him, let let

687
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: him live. It's more like, I always go back to it.

688
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: If you have a guy like that, right for us,

689
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: it's a different ball game. But when you have a

690
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: guy like that, the truth of the matter is you

691
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: are going to average more yards per pass, then you

692
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: are going to average yards per run. You're just going

693
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: to So yes, there it is import in some way,

694
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: shape or form to go ahead and make sure that

695
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: you do have the run the physicality of wearing somebody down.

696
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: But when you have the luxury of this guy, yeah,

697
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: you go ahead and you throw the ball. They had

698
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: in the loss to Kansas City. This is a great game.

699
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: We all remember it. It was the opener of the

700
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: Amazon season. In that game, they ran it twenty four

701
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: times for and Herbert threw a Yeah. It's a lot

702
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: of plays, coach, it is, and and some of them

703
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: they would argue, and when you watch them justifiably so

704
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: that some of these past plays are actually extensions of

705
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: the run game. They're long, so it's just about getting

706
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: the ball to, you know, Eckler in a place that

707
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: they think is advantageous for him. Now they have not

708
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: run it well, as we've talked about, but you think

709
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: about how much they are throwing it. The fact that

710
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: they've only given up, you know, the four sacks on

711
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: the season, it's kind of amazing. And they're doing it

712
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: by the way. They're doing it, by the way. With

713
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: so Corey Lindsley is a pro bowler, all Pro He's

714
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: the center. He was a huge free agent signing for them,

715
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: former bucket that's right, former fifth round pick in two

716
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen. Then they've got Matt Feiler, who is

717
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: was a starter for the Pittsburgh Steelers for a while

718
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: but kind of a journeyman and and certainly wasn't part

719
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: of any of their good lines. He's at left guard.

720
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: He's been the weak link. He's given up a team

721
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: my fifteen pressures in one sec. Your left tackle was

722
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: slater out is Jamari Salier. Yeah, their sixth round pick

723
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: this year out of Georgia. Last week didn't allow pressure

724
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: and his first start against Houston. Well, it's gonna be

725
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: very different this week. We'll be you have to be

726
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: able to eat there. Yes. Then their right guard is

727
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson, their first round pick out of Boston College

728
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: this year. Their right tackle is Trey Pitkins, a former

729
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: third round pick, and this is his first year as

730
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: a starter, so they never thought he was good enough

731
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: to start prior to this season. So it's not like

732
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: this is a line of great consequence or incredibly formidable.

733
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: The rounds should be able to do some things up

734
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: front and disrupt this passing attack. There are a couple

735
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: of things we do really well when healthy and even

736
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: in our current incarnation that that should come home to

737
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: roost this week. Number one, Miles in Clowney ought to

738
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: be able to get home. And I know Herbert gets

739
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: it out quick, but at least you can force him

740
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: to get it out quick. And what does that do. Well,

741
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: It doesn't let Mike Williams run forty two yards down

742
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: field and hit you over the top. So that's beneficial.

743
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: Those two should be able to get home, uh in

744
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: this game on Sunday. The other thing, we can run

745
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: it better than anybody. So those two things should be

746
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: complementary for this Chargers team. They're the differences between them

747
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: and everybody else we played is the stuff they do good.

748
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: We haven't seen anything like it totally. That's right, we

749
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: have not seen. I mean the quarterbacks we've played. You

750
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: put up a highlight tape of the quarterbacks we played

751
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: in the first four weeks, and they will not in

752
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: all of the games they played this year have as

753
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: many good throws as justin Herbert by himself. No good grief, no, no.

754
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: So this is a totally different animal um offensively and

755
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: and so there there are some things that advantageous us,

756
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: but that they also have a hell of an answer

757
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: and from their perspective, I assure you this if if

758
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: who I wanted to get into this too with you

759
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: in the second terms of the Charger fans out there,

760
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: but if there are any their next four it's US

761
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: Broncos at home, Seahawks at home at Falcons, they would

762
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: look at that and go four. No, they want to

763
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: go three and one. I mean, you'd be realistic. All

764
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: four they will be favored as they are against US.

765
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: Is it one and a half? Is it down to one?

766
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: And I haven't looked because I'm not looking because we

767
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: yet get the lines tomorrow. Yeah, we got that tomorrow,

768
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: so we won't all right, so we well, we'll wait

769
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: on that for tomorrow. It was three, yeah, but they

770
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: will be favored in every one of those games. How

771
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: about this for just some like random fun facts about

772
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: this offense. Mike Williams has a hundred yards or more

773
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: receiving in four straight games on the road. That's one

774
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: of the longest streaks in NFL history. It's tied for

775
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: eighth longest. Six games is the record, by the way

776
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson. So one more he'll get him to five,

777
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: which we tie for the fifth longest. He's got ten

778
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: past places in more than forty yards ones I mentioned

779
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: most in the NFL. How about this with Justin Herbert.

780
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: If he gets three hundred yards against the Browns, it

781
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: will be his twentieth career game with three hundred more

782
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: yards passing, which would be the most ever in somebody's

783
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: first three seasons. And we're in week five of his

784
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: third season. Andrew luck was the previous record holder with

785
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: nineteen uh It would be his eighth straight game of

786
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: three hundred plus on the road, which would tie rich

787
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: Gannon for the most in NFL history. Um when he

788
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: was the MG of the league on the road with

789
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: three hundred plus if if he if he throws for

790
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: three hundred, so he's at seven now, which would tie

791
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: Rich Gannon, who was the MVP of the league the

792
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: last time to sev in two thousand two two for

793
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: most in NFL history. I mean, I'm just trying to

794
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: think how many three yard passing games have we had

795
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: in the last few years. The last three hundred yard

796
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: passing game we had as a team was Weekie against

797
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: That's how about that? Good job out of you? Yeah,

798
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: that's amazing eight of them. So you were out there

799
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: a year ago. It was a Browns crowd, right, very much.

800
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: So this is a franchise. They can't get a stadium

801
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: done in San Diego, can't get public funding. It was

802
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: an ownership group in the Spanos family that didn't weren't

803
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: liquid enough to do it on their own. There's no

804
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: corporate money in San Diego, which is something a lot

805
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: of people don't realize. So they weren't gonna be able

806
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 1: to get a stadium done that way. So they become

807
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: a team that's going to move well. Cronkey goes to

808
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and says, I'm I'm willing to build it

809
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,959
Speaker 1: on my own. I need a tenant. The NFL says okay.

810
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: He says, I really don't want the Raiders because they'll

811
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: ussurt me. And they said, well, how about the Chargers. Fine,

812
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: they were in l A before, they're in San Diego briefly,

813
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: let's go Chargers. Let's move them up there. So they

814
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: move up there. They play in a soccer stadium and

815
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 1: remember that, Carson, did you ever cover a game there?

816
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: It had very small intimate. We ended up losing that one.

817
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: That was in the year I think that we went

818
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: win lists with Kaiser. Both had a big sextra fumble

819
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. Travis Coon's former kicker

820
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: made a return for the charge zone. It was actually

821
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: a pretty cool environment. I enjoyed it. I actually is

822
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: very intimate. I actually think that would be better than

823
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: where they're playing now almost. It's a cool facility, though,

824
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's as good as Minnesota though. No, no, no,

825
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: But I just mean, here is this team. You said

826
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: eight players in the top one. They have there's fun

827
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: to watch there. They have a top four cool guy

828
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: playing quarterback. Who checks every box you'd watch in a

829
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. They have arguably the best uniform in sport,

830
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: certainly in the NFL, one of the best, one of

831
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: the three or four best, and yet there's no traction

832
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: in the market for them. There's very little. Give a

833
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: damn And you say to yourself, well, if if this

834
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: doesn't satisfy, what will like what happens fifteen years from

835
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: now when they're not When they're not like this, I

836
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: don't know. They're awesome and they're fun to watch. Beautiful uniforms,

837
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: it's there. It's a solid Did you imagine these guys

838
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: in Dallas it's a beautiful thing, or Philly or New

839
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: York any other market if this is the New York

840
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 1: Giants look like this, yeah, like maybe the most popular team. Yeah.

841
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: But instead they're kind of this. They're out there. There's

842
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: nobody who who's there's not I don't even know a

843
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: die hard charges fan. Like. The thing is is, they

844
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: don't even have the fans in San Diego. They're flying

845
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: under the road. They're they're flying under the right and

846
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: every game they plays a road games, it's damnest thing.

847
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: What is there? What's your favorite of their uniform combos

848
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Speaker 1: powder blue top. I like the white pant. You can

849
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: go with the gold pant. That's fine, but powdered blup top,

850
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: white pant on the white helmet, obviously, it's perfect. They

851
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: did it. It's really amazing. The weird one, though, that's

852
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: all blue, is like not quite the powder blue. It's

853
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: almost like a differents era. I don't like that one

854
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: as much. So they have three blues. They've got the

855
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: powder blue all Worth era, then they've got the Royal blue,

856
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: which is Fouts era, and then they've gotten what I

857
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: like to refer to as the Stan Humphreys era, the

858
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: Navy blue. Antonio Gates did that for you because of

859
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: Steve Young's incredible victory over he got the Monkey Office

860
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: back by somehow defeating Stan Humphreys and the incredibly and

861
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: the largest largest spread larges spread Super Bowl ever. It

862
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: was like a four or fourteen point favorite or something

863
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: like that in the Super Bowl. I don't understand. I

864
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: can't remember did they How did they get there? In

865
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: that Chargers team who would have been Who's There's no

866
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: way they were the one seed. It's also one of

867
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: the great Chris Burman nicknames. Nature on means businesses fantastic,

868
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: which is very good. Say it was on that team,

869
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: he's great. Yeah, San Diego Chargers or ninety four a

870
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: f C Playoffs football reference. I mean Pittsburgh was good

871
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: at that point. Pittsburgh playing in the Super Bowl, alright,

872
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: So they go eleven and five, they win, They win

873
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: the a f C West and then in the postseason

874
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: they are home for Miami. They gotta buy they were

875
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: a two seed probably, so then in the divisional round

876
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: they beat Miami twenty to twenty one, so it's Marino.

877
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: Then they go to the a f C Championship game

878
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh and win seventeen to thirteen. So it was Pittsburgh.

879
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: And then they go to the Super Bowl and they

880
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: get blasted to twenty six. That would have been a

881
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: Neil O'Donnell Pittsburgh team. Probably is that Jim Harbaugh quarterbacking

882
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: that no, no, no, that no. He did that with

883
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: the Colt He had a hail Mary to beat the

884
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: Steelers once. So Stan Humphreys one in there and one

885
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: all right, So they were led by Natron Means ran

886
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: for fifty yards and twelve touchdowns. By the way, it's

887
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: an all nicknamed backfield. You had Natron means business and

888
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: Eric sleeping with the enemy. Yeah, same backfield. That was

889
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: a great one. Leading receiver was a tentleman by the

890
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: name of Tony Martin had eight five yards and seven touchdowns,

891
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: um Sean Jefferson had six, seven and three and then

892
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: Mark say se a y had sixty five and six. Like,

893
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't remember any of these dudes. No, it speaks

894
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: to I think a little bit. This kind of buttresses

895
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: a point we're talking about on Monday on the show.

896
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: Listen to the names that you just mentioned and think

897
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: about how talented this league is. Now. Oh yeah, like

898
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: Stan Humphreys quarterback to team in the Super Bowl and

899
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: through for seventeen touchdowns, twelve picks and fifty eight percent

900
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: completion that year. It's unreal defense was led by Junior

901
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: say Ow. It also had Leslie O'Neil who had twelve

902
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: and a half sacks and Chris Mims had eleven sacks.

903
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: So they had a pair of pass rushers that were

904
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: pretty formidable. Say I had a hundred and fifty five tackles,

905
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: five and a half sacks, a forced fumble. I mean,

906
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: look at this human that is a quarterback of a

907
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl team. Oh my god, yeah, the nine notes.

908
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: Why you go, I'm he looks like a club pros.

909
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: Why they got absolutely blasted? Bro. They did like to

910
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: compare that team that we just were set out loud

911
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: two do it to this Chargers team. Well it's name close,

912
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: but the forty Niners, nineteen forty Niners team that won

913
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I mean that team had to be human. Jeez,

914
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: that's wild. I mean he looks in this picture here

915
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: with the flat top, he looks like somebod who's gonna

916
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: snake your drain? It does he does? Look that one?

917
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: Well that's Dion. Here we go. That's all of them,

918
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners. All right, here you go. You've

919
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: got Waters on offense, Steve Young, pro bowler, First Team

920
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: All Pro completion, four thousand yards, thirty five touchdowns, ten picks,

921
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: Corbreck Rading one. You've got Ricky Waters ran for eight

922
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: seventy seven and six, who had William Floyd barn and

923
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: William Floyd who had six touch Johns l Steve Young

924
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: ran for seven touchdowns to receiving Jerry Fantasy year for

925
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: Steve Young. Jerry Rice First Team All Pro and Pro

926
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: bowler four nine yards, thirteen touchdowns, John Taylor five thirty

927
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: one and five. Clearly Steve Young get noise. I'm like

928
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: Joe did. Brent Jones, pro bowler, he had seventy and

929
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: nine the tight end. And then your defense, you had

930
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: Ken Norton Jr. Merton Hanks, Pro Bowlers, a free safet

931
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: who had seven picks that year. Nice neck on him.

932
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: You had Eric Davis who was very good. Tim McDonald,

933
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: your other safety was a Pro bowler that year as well,

934
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: former Card, former Card YEA. He had Gary Plummer and

935
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: Leewood all your defensive line, Bryant Young, who just went

936
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. Dana stubble Field was a

937
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: Pro bowler that year, had eight and a half sacks.

938
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders first team All Pro and Pro Bowler that

939
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: year obviously, as well did Deon win Defensive Player of

940
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: the Year ninety four. They also had Pro bowlers all

941
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: over their line. Jesse Sapolo was a Pro bowler. DEFENSI players. Yes,

942
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: it's it's the single best corner season I've ever seen,

943
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: and they think anyone's ever seen. Probably was Deon and

944
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders nicknames primetime Neon Dion or Leon sand Castle

945
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: from that ad. That's funny, that's in there. All right,

946
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: very good. We'll get some perspective for Bertie Coozar coming

947
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: up next you listen to Cleland Brown's Daily on Cleveland

948
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: Brown's Daily on E S B and Cleveland Browns Fans,

949
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: be sure to stop by the free Twisted Tetailgate pregame

950
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: party prior to every home game. Twisted Ttailgate is located

951
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: on the west side of First Energy Stadium, combines the

952
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: atmosphere of a beer guard with live music, food drinking

953
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: options the TVI. It opens four hours prior to kick

954
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: off and is open to fans with a ticket to

955
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: the game. And now let's head out on the Twisted

956
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: Tea Hot Life or visit our great friend, the legend,

957
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: Bernie Close are joining us, Uh boy, Bertie, we were.

958
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: We'll revisit last week and take a look at some things.

959
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: But I like talking quarterbacks with you, and I I'm

960
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: an admirer of Justin Herbert and what he's done early

961
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: in his career. We'll get a firsthand look at him

962
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: last year. We get a firsthand look at him in

963
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: our building this year. When you see him. Does he

964
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: remind you of anybody who played against What are some

965
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: of the traits that you like? Well, good to be

966
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: with you guys today. And I know there's still maybe

967
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 1: some remnants of distaste from the outcome of the game

968
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: this past Sunday, but it isn't NFL Wednesday, and Wednesday

969
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: is the official start of the game plan week where

970
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: you officially move in, get your game plan and move

971
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: into the l A Chargers and stuff, and bow to

972
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: your question about is there a QB that Justin Herbert

973
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: reminds me of? And this is high praise and stuff,

974
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: but I and I love the way I used to

975
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: throw the football and stuff, and I love it, was

976
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: proud of my accuracy. But there was a guy I

977
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: like Dan Marino, who was the work of art throwing

978
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: the ball. And when I see Justin throw the football, unfortunately,

979
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: I see that beautiful, gorgeous golden arm of Dan Marino,

980
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: and and that's that gift that he has. It's it's

981
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: almost like what for a quarterback, It's almost like going

982
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: and watching an artist work the way he throws it.

983
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: It's just gorgeous when you have means and that and

984
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: that means for this weekend, if any weekend, we could

985
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: get a nice, windy Northeast Ohio Cleveland Brown's day with

986
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: the way there the number one passing offense in the

987
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: NFL and one of the worst running offenses in the NFL,

988
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: UM I absolutely think that would be a Cleveland Brown

989
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: true home field advantage, Bernie. When you have a quarterback

990
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: who can do all of the things that Justin Herbert

991
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: can do, You've got a team that's got one of

992
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: the pretty eminent deep threats in the league, and Mike Williams,

993
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: you have one of the best intermediate and third down

994
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: route runners in the NFL, and Keenan Allen Gerald Everett

995
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: the tight end they brought in on pace for a

996
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: career year like he might shatter his career best by

997
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: the midway point of this season. And then you have

998
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: a running back like Austin Ekeler who already has twenty

999
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: seven catches, third most in the a f C. So

1000
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: they can throw it close to the line of scrimmage,

1001
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: they can hit you in the intermediate, they can hit

1002
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: you over the top. How do you slow down this offense?

1003
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: And what must you do to a quarterback back like

1004
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: that to try and disrupt him well, unlike last week

1005
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: with Arthur Smith and Dave were going the offensive coordinate

1006
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: for the Falcons that we're almost like ourselves, a heavy,

1007
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: physical run first team. I like Austin Ekelers as a

1008
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 1: running back for the for the l A Chargers, yet

1009
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: they are woeful in the way they're running the ball.

1010
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: This year, they're using him phenomenally in the passing game.

1011
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: So last weekend we had a heavy emphasis on stopping

1012
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: the run. Um this weekend, actually, we're gonna I would

1013
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: think we're gonna want to force them into running the

1014
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: ball more than they probably want to. So get a

1015
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: little pressure on Justin and being able to with their

1016
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: left tackle being out. That's that's something that you would

1017
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: really love to have Miles Garrett, Davian Clowney back being

1018
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: able to play and put that pressure, put that pressure

1019
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: on to be able to disrupt, be able to disrupt

1020
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: Justin and and throw him, throw him off his rhythm.

1021
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: So the other thing that's interesting about him, Bernie is

1022
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: he he doesn't get hit a lot. The balls out quick.

1023
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean they uh Slater was out. He didn't play

1024
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: last week and intended. Now we're different obviously with with

1025
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: Miles and Jadavion, but the Texans really couldn't get near him,

1026
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: didn't disrupt him that much. The ball comes out so quick.

1027
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: What can we do in the back end? Can you

1028
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: do anything to confuse give him even another half second

1029
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: of thought before it seems he's so decisive. I guess

1030
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: how do you counter that? Yeah? With with pressure sure

1031
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: in the face and again almost like Dan Marino. Dan

1032
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: Marino was was genius in his movement within the pocket,

1033
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: and he was genius and his ability with the quick

1034
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: release and stuff. You see the same thing with with

1035
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: Justin two and the the ability though to put that

1036
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: little bit of doubt in his mind, to do a

1037
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: little bit of disguising of the coverages, moving, moving the

1038
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: fronts around a little bit, but your safeties and I

1039
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: know this is somewhat a little tricky because we've been

1040
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: having some communication issues in the back end of our defense.

1041
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: But when you're able to maybe disguise a little bit

1042
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: and have him not be so predetermined in his pre

1043
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: snap read that that his pre snap read is confirmed

1044
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: by at the snap of it being that coverage, if

1045
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: you're able to maybe give him a pre snap look

1046
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: and at the snap at times be able to rotate

1047
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: into another coverage that for a younger quarterback may be

1048
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: able to with a little bit of pressure. Gets him

1049
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: sometimes too doubt what he's seeing, have questions in his mind.

1050
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: And if we're having a typical fall, windy day in Cleveland,

1051
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: if you have a little bit of inaccuracy in your

1052
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: throws or you're not used to the swirling type, wins

1053
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: and Nathan I unfortunately concur with you that I I

1054
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: love Mike Williams down the field, and I love Keenan

1055
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: Allen in the and then mid range stuff. Keenan Allen

1056
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: has been it's questionable for the game this week. I

1057
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: don't like to take any consolation in any players being hurt,

1058
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: but that'd be a nice helper if Keenan Helen isn't

1059
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: able to add to that those weapons on the l

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00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: A Chargers offense, and from the defensive perspect of, you

1061
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 1: know with Bosa being on an injury reserve, Yeah, they've

1062
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: They've got Cleo Mack. But almost like the Steelers game,

1063
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: they our ability to run the ball against anybody I

1064
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: really believe in. Yet the off tackle running that the

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00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns do so well. Technique Shop last week again,

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00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: nineteen carries hundred and eighteen yards six point two yards

1067
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: that carry against the Falcons. Well, the Chargers are struggling

1068
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: like the Steelers were at their off tackle defense and stuff.

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00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: That's what we do so so good. So that's a

1070
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: nice matchup. That's a nice, nice um edge to try

1071
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: to amplify in the game on Sunday. Yeah, and that's

1072
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 1: what we've got to do, right. Sometimes the best defense

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00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: is an offense that possesses the ball. And I think

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00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: what's frustrating for the Browns is, you know, you're averaging

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00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: over thirty five minutes of possession the season, most in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and yet you sit at two and two.

1077
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Speaker 1: And that's what we try to do. Last week we

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00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: did it successfully. I imagine that will be the formula again,

1079
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Speaker 1: right because it's a quarterback. If you're not on the field,

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Speaker 1: you get antsy on the sideline, if it's been a

1081
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: while since you've gotten to be out there. If the

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00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: brown has gone an eight minute drive, a nine minute drive,

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00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: you get a three out, then they go on another

1084
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: eight minute drive. Does that affect your rhythm? And that

1085
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: maybe one of the ways to affect Justin Herbert fantastic point.

1086
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: Nathan spot on with that, there's there's absolutely for a

1087
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: team that struggles running the ball, for a team that

1088
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: is an offensive machine that wants to press the action

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Speaker 1: down the field. If you if you're not out there,

1090
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Speaker 1: if you're not able to get into that flow, even

1091
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: if you get into that flow, and you can't stay

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00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: consistent with it, absolutely, and especially with youth, you tend

1093
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: to get a little impatient, get a little anxious, want

1094
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: to try to do a little too much, try to

1095
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: score and move the ball a little too quick, and

1096
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: you actually, hopefully sometimes compound your issue neither make a

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00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:46,479
Speaker 1: turnover or get a U A three and out. Yeah,

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00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: that's that's what you're hoping for there, and you're hoping

1099
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: to keep it away from him. Um. You know when

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Speaker 1: you when you think about one of the hot topics

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00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: of course this week, and it's we can always do things.

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00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: Once things have happened, we can look back in second guess.

1103
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: I mean that's our job here right as we do

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00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: those things. And one of the big topics is inside

1105
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: the red zone, take the points, those type of things.

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00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: So Brandon Staley doesn't do that with the Chargers, and

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00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: some of that is he's got Herbert, I mean they

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00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth Let me go last year, Bernie,

1109
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: they went for it in their own end on fourth

1110
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: down against us, Like he's he's pretty fearless with it. Um,

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00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: this feels like a game where you gotta get seven

1112
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: more than three. Where do you One thing Nathan I

1113
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: talked about on Monday is there is an emotional toll

1114
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: of a long drive that ends in no points. Is

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00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: are we giving that enough credit? Where do you come

1116
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: down on that? Well? For for Browns fans who um

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00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: debate nor do they like um all of all the

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00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: times we go for it on fourth down see the

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Speaker 1: cd l A Chargers slash the John Carroll Blue Streets West. Uh.

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Speaker 1: In terms of Brandon Staley, in the amount of times

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00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: that they go for it on fourth down, they go

1122
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: for a third post in the NFL last year more

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00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: than more than we do with the Cleveland Browns. So

1124
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: both both teams have an aggressive attitude towards going for it.

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Speaker 1: As it pertains to your question bow and last week's situation. Um,

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00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: yes it is for the first And I'm not trying

1127
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: to second guest coach or any anybody on this, but

1128
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: when you're the quarterback and I had a thing on

1129
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: the road where on the first drive of the game,

1130
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: if I had the ball first, I wanted to get

1131
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: off the snide. I've wanted to get any points on

1132
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: the board. I want my touchdowns, UM as best possible

1133
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: most all the time. But on that first drive, to

1134
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: to go all the way down and to go up

1135
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: three nothing, seven nothing's optimal. But to be able to

1136
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: go up three nothing at least, it's something that UM,

1137
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: I always wanted to do, old school or new school

1138
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: in that and when it when it came down to

1139
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: and to your point, yes, that tends to be discouraged

1140
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: into to you as the offense, into the team. But

1141
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: more so it makes that that on the first drive,

1142
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: it makes the home team fired up that they got

1143
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: they stopped you, and now the offense comes out with

1144
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of purpose as opposed to maybe the

1145
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: fans are sitting back on their seat down three nothing. UM.

1146
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: But in terms of it, in the course of the game,

1147
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: I tend to want to go for it more times

1148
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: more times than than not. But it's early in the

1149
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 1: game like that, I think it's imperative to to um

1150
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: settle everybody down like that. Yeah, and that does make sense.

1151
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: Now when you're at home in a game like this

1152
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: where it's going to be a shootout or an expected shootout,

1153
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: you know that they're the number one passing offense. They've

1154
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: also given up twenty seventy game. Is this a game

1155
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: where you feel like it's probably gonna be more aggressive again?

1156
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: And people should just kind of get their heads around

1157
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: that we're looking for sevens here. And this is one

1158
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: of the things that I was trying to convey to

1159
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: somebody is if you go down to the goal line

1160
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: area seven times seven times, if you kick the field

1161
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: goal all seven in times, you only have to score

1162
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: three out of seven, which is under fifty to get

1163
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: the same number points. You go four out of seven

1164
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: in terms of scoring touchdowns and guess what, now, you've

1165
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: exceeded that significantly right one. So that I think is

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01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the thinking behind it. But do you

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01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: think that this is a game where you would be aggressive,

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: even just knowing Justin Herbert and Ekela and Williams and

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01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: Alan if he plays are on the other side, Yes,

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01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: it's absolutely. I tend I tend to go on to

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01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: be more aggressive with with with Justin than the charges

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01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 1: on the other side. But that being said, there's also

1173
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: a strategic percentage and to me, my version of analytics

1174
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: that I like to contemplate with those, that's hypothetical scenario

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01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: seven trips inside the inside of the red zone because

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01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: like two point plays from the two yard lines, so

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Speaker 1: fourth and to two point plays basically it's success rate,

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01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: so a little bit less than half occasically one out

1179
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: of too from fourth and to two point place is

1180
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: is the statistics for it. We are so awesome at

1181
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: our third and one, fourth and one, so anything less

1182
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: than two I am pretty positive to being really aggressive

1183
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: on well I struggled with from fourth and four the

1184
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: other day is statistically that's that's a tough one for

1185
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: us quarterbacks. When I was young, I wanted to act

1186
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: cool like I loved throwing the ball from the four

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01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: and five yard line ins on third and fourth down,

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01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: that's statistically a challenging time because we are a running team.

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01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: It really takes the run out of play from about

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Speaker 1: the four and you statistically get down to about a

1191
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: thirty percent chance of success. So it's if the analytics

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01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 1: match up and it's a realistic third and fourth down

1193
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: because boy running over uh posted Teller and Joel Patonio

1194
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Speaker 1: with Jacobe Brissette. That's almost hundred sent on one in

1195
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: less than one. So um, those are the kind of

1196
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: scenarios I also try to wrap into my analysis when

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01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm going through a decision like that, and how difficult

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Speaker 1: is it for a quarterback in that scenario because not

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Speaker 1: only does everybody know that it's fourth down, but you

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01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: don't have the ability to stress them vertically because you're

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01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: you've got fourteen yards a field to work with exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: So the that's why I like going for it, doctor,

1203
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: maybe one two yard line the four or five six

1204
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: yard line exponentially increases the chances of a of it

1205
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: being that much more challenging. Bernie we we started this

1206
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: talking about elite quarterback play in justin Herbert and we

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Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about Dan Marino in the comparison,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's kind of the one I was thinking

1209
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: about when you say it validates all of it. I

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01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: wanted to go back historically with with you and the

1211
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Speaker 1: Chargers and some of those matchups you had with Dan

1212
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: fouts Uh towards the end of his career, towards the

1213
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: beginning of years Uh, there's one here. You went four

1214
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: green back in in X What was what was that?

1215
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: What was that like? What was Fouts like as a player,

1216
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: What was he like to go up against? Wow? Bull? Thanks,

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Speaker 1: I've got goose bumps here as you're talking. What an

1218
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Speaker 1: awesome honor to be a young kid going up against

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01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: dance Outs And then a couple of years later the

1220
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: great Junior Sayout being able to play play against him,

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Speaker 1: and and and and actually in one of those games,

1222
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Speaker 1: not I had my career longest NFL run. I ran

1223
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: for twenty two yards against a two D man Moses Like.

1224
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: This was like, yeah, most of this was uh plan

1225
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: do in the red partying the Red Sea for me there,

1226
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: a real athlete would have got forty yards of the touchdown.

1227
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: I slowed it down to twenty for for Junior to

1228
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: dive on dive on top of me. So so those

1229
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: are the those type of moments where the series is

1230
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: the love of the game of wanting to play. Unfortunately,

1231
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: we were up a lot of points then, so I

1232
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: was able to laugh on the laugh on the ground

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01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,959
Speaker 1: as Junior was rolling rolling me, rolling my face into

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01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: the mud with that, I can't and because it's a

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01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: family showing school is about to get off. I can't

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01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: say exactly some of the quotes you said to me,

1237
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: but I was pretty festive. But yet when did for

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01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: I hadn't. I don't think I'd ever run twenty yards before. Bernie,

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Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, great talking he as always. We'll talk to

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01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: you next week. That great matter. Go Browns. All right,

1241
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Speaker 1: the great Bernie Cosar and be part of one of

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Speaker 1: now here's your quarterback, Jakobe but said the podium. What's

1255
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: the key to getting better in the red uh score touchdowns?

1256
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: I think that's the uh when we went back and

1257
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: looked and just our attention to detail, detail and and

1258
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: focus in the red zone, that was very uncharacteristic of us. UH.

1259
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: So just holding back in and focusing on our details

1260
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: of our each play and and uh, we'll get the

1261
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: results we want. I'm gonna not that the interception, but

1262
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,959
Speaker 1: we should You've done definitely on that last not thrown

1263
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: into that guy. Anything else would have been better than that?

1264
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: Did you look when you look at films? Did you

1265
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: see other options? Anything would have been Like I said,

1266
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: any throw would have been better than that one. So

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Speaker 1: just being better in those situations? Do you not take it?

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01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: Seems like Kevin has taken so much heat for that

1269
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: fourth and three from the four on the first drive,

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01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: and he mentioned that, you you know, kind of just

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01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: going for David there and Paul got away from that fall.

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01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: Can you take us through or can you take us

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01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: through one? Uh at first s the very the first series,

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01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: the fourth and three? Oh yeah yeah yeah, yah yeah, yea,

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01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: yeah yah yeah, just kind of take us through the

1276
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: thinking they're just I just think that's what it was.

1277
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: Um uh, and it was just a bad job by myself.

1278
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: And like I when I said earlier, just honing in

1279
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: on details and U kind of made a bad decision

1280
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: from the start of the play that caused that. So, uh,

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01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: just be better and what can you share? I won't

1282
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: because I don't want the other team to do that

1283
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: same thing. So you guys want to hurry up on

1284
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: was the first time hurry up on that play? Yeah?

1285
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: That was our first hurry up on that series? Yet

1286
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: is that tougher to do kind of a rush thing?

1287
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: You know? Is it not necessarily because when you get

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01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: them into looks at you want it's it's I mean,

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01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: we're we almost had it, you know. Uh, and we

1290
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: we get a look where Chubs on on one guy

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01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: and you got made a good play. Uh. So I

1292
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: don't think it's tough. I mean, it's just it's part

1293
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: of our game because we've we gone for on the

1294
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: ball fast and certain situations and have come converted them.

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01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: So we're just hoping the same thing said they hadn't

1296
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: been in goal line all year. Yeah, tricky then when

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01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: you haven't seen a team and uh yeah, and that

1298
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: and that's just something that you really can't account for it.

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01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:53,919
Speaker 1: It's just something that happens in the flow of the game.

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01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: And uh and I think uh, as a collective group,

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01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: we just looked at it and said, hey, like we

1302
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: have to be prepared, are more for these type of

1303
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: situations and make sure we make um, make sure we're

1304
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: on the same page. When you look at the stair

1305
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: sheet and you see that's one catch nine yards four targets,

1306
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: can you sort of describe what you know, what they

1307
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 1: were doing taking out I think a couple of them.

1308
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: I just missed them, honestly. Uh. And I gotta do

1309
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: a better job of of of of trust in my eyes.

1310
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: Uh And I think that's pretty much it. Visit together started.

1311
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: I think it's critical. I mean we understand that. Uh.

1312
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: Teams understand that. UM but uh yeah, obviously didn't wanted

1313
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: to work out that way, but uh it did. It's

1314
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: a great learning learning tool for us, UM at my

1315
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: position and his position, and obviously Captin's called the plays.

1316
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: But uh, it's just something that we understand, is is

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01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: something that we have to do, is find ways to

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01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: get him involved. But like again I said, like I

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01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:08,879
Speaker 1: just missed him a couple of times. Throw and run plays.

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01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: It seems like with running game, you know, the way

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01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: it is, it might be a better alternatives. I mean,

1322
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: we could play that game all days, which one is better?

1323
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: But I thought we had good plays down there is

1324
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: just about execution, uh, and focusing and focusing in on

1325
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: the details. I'm already wasn't necessarily be able to get

1326
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 1: us involved in one of things too, but he's spread

1327
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: it around a little bit more at success on David,

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01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: How important is that just get other people? Yeah, I

1329
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: mean I just think that's just such a critical part

1330
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: of our offense. Uh, is when everybody touches the ball,

1331
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: we do well. Uh. And a lot of a lot

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01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: of Yeah, Mary didn't get what we say is the

1333
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: correct number of touches, I would say, but a lot

1334
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: of guys stepped up and made a lot of plays,

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01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, both Davis made a lot of plays and

1336
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: made a lot of plays. Our backs made a lot

1337
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 1: of players in the past game. So, uh, just finding

1338
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,799
Speaker 1: ways to get everybody involved and um making a conscious

1339
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: ever to to make the right decisions. More question about

1340
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: that that last were you guys just thinking that you

1341
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: needed a touchdown that a field goal? No, we we

1342
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: don't need to field goal that. Yeah, you know what

1343
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: specifically David though, how long have you seen him get

1344
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,560
Speaker 1: more comfortable as this as this season is going on?

1345
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: A yeah, I think he's been doing a good job

1346
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: of of of taking the coaching from the metering room

1347
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,839
Speaker 1: to the field. Uh and um it's paying off dividends

1348
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 1: in the games and critical situations some of the big

1349
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: catches that he made uh in that game. Uh, you know,

1350
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's exciting to see his his growth becoming

1351
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: more and more clear at each game and just looking

1352
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: forward to that throughout the season. Chargers help. I mean,

1353
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: I still think they have really good defense. Obviously he's

1354
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: one of their better players, but I think those guys

1355
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: uh still play really well, play really hard. That's the

1356
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: system that those guys know very well. Um and um, yeah,

1357
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 1: so we got we got tough task and now the

1358
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: red zone stuff is frustrating. But when you have a

1359
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: chub and hunt that was it even more frustrating. I

1360
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 1: mean Nick is really rolling in his homecoming game. I

1361
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: mean it's just frustrated. Uh. You just want to score touchdowns. Uh.

1362
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: And we we always say we don't care who scores

1363
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: for us. It's just we just want to put the

1364
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: ball in the end zone. And yeah, we just gotta

1365
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: be better in no situations. When did you When did

1366
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: you realize you were so good at a quarterback sets? Uh?

1367
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: A long time ago, I guess. Uh. I mean it's

1368
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: just part of my game. I guess, I don't know.

1369
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: You just go get a r RD or something. I

1370
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: mean when when that comes in the court town you

1371
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: feel like it's almost automatic. For the most part, I

1372
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: was just telling myself to go get it. The guys

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01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: up front do a really good job of getting surge

1374
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: and uh and just finding the cracks and and then

1375
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we only need to get one. So just

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01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm six fourth, so I'll get one yard land down.

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01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: So what do you see from this Chargers defense? Uh?

1378
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: Really good defense. Like I said, they know this system

1379
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: very well. Um. Uh. Put a lot of guys in

1380
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 1: different spots and they and they all understand the rules

1381
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 1: of their defense. Uh so um, very very very tough.

1382
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: Obviously have known to be a really good defense. And

1383
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: we got our handsful this week. We're starting to get

1384
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: some interceptions. It looks like you have to be really

1385
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: careful of you know, James and some of these guys

1386
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: coming up right. Yeah, I think they got a lot

1387
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: of ball hawks on their uh in their secondary uh,

1388
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: including their linebackers. Uh. You know a lot of guys that,

1389
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: um can make plays on the ball. So obviously being

1390
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: being good on my part and making good decisions, uh,

1391
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 1: and making sure I'm not putting a team in in

1392
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: the offense in harm's way there. You're going into a

1393
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: stretch now where you're gonna be facing some pretty pro

1394
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: leific offenses in quarterbacks. Is that something that's in the

1395
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: back of your mind, knowing that something you guys might

1396
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: have to not only be better, but at least keep

1397
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: pace with that level of scoring. Uh No, I mean

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01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: obviously the mindset is to be better, just to be better.

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01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: Each week is is a week to that we get

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01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: a chance to go out there perform better than we

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01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: did the week before. I mean, we're not playing against

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01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: their offense, we're playing against their defense. So uh, we

1403
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: just got to go out and execute to our job

1404
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: and folcus on that. Uh. I think that would be

1405
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: more than enough to worry about inform anything that could

1406
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: possibly happen in this game. You guys expect me. I

1407
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: have no idea yet. Um. Whatever the game needs. I'm

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01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: sure we got the guys on this team and and

1409
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: prepared to do whatever it takes to get a win.

1410
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: And uh, that's the mindset going into this one. Does

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01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: this quarterback sneak thing or even go to college? Yeah,

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01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: but I don't remember doing it that much of college,

1413
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: so I don't know. Yeah. For a team of injury

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Speaker 1: us here in studio for a little game we like

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Speaker 1: to call better or worse? How are you doing? Buddy?

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01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,560
Speaker 1: Was very fantastic, happy to be back on one of

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01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: my favorite times of the week. Let's do it. Yeah,

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01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: it's always exciting when we do a little bit of

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01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: better or Worse, and so let's get it started. Um,

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01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: all right, the Browns coming. We are eighteen, Like, that's

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01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: just it. We're seventeen or eighteen? Were nineteen, were twenty, Like,

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01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 1: that's that's just it. There's no there's no good handled

1443
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: our business. We we'd have to be like top who

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01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: I think we'd be ten if we were like four, Oh,

1445
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: we're undefeated, they would put us in the top eight.

1446
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: That's top quartile of course for four. But we're not

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01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 1: two and two. So they sit there, um at number eighteen.

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01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: Apparently in this particular one. See, we don't we don't

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01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: use the same one every time, so this is yeah,

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01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: it moves, so apparently in this one last week we

1451
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: were up all the way to eleven. But I think

1452
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: we did Dan Hansas last week and he had us

1453
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: around this neck of the so he had us where

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01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,480
Speaker 1: we are on the ESPN one. We are down from eleven.

1455
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: We are eighteen. Are we better or worse than number

1456
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: eleven or another number eighteen? We should be, but I

1457
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: mean we've blown two games. We've lost the Jets and

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01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: the Falcons, so we're in the middle of the pack,

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01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: and that feels like a very middle of the pack ranking. Yeah,

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01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm I would actually say a little bit lower, and

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01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: not just because when I look at the teams that

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01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 1: are behind us right now, um, teams that have quarterbacks

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01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 1: that are playing really well right now, Our teams that

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01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: have quarterbacks that can play really well, like the Raiders,

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01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: Cardinal Seahawks, those are all teams that are behind us

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01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: on this list, and I'm not very confident that that

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01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: this team would be able to beat them, just with

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01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: the struggles they've had in the fourth quarter. I mean,

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01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: we don't think Smith has been playing out of his

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01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 1: mind defense in the league. He got smoked by the

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01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: Falcons at home. The Seahawks is if the okay, but

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01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and Raiders, I'm not fully confident about that.

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01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: And then they I think, did you watch any did

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01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: you see any of that games? It was an abomination.

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01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: It was like really one of the worst football games

1476
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. However, though, like, how can we be

1477
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: ahead of the Falcons? Though? How can they just died? You? Um?

1478
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: You imagine, like those two guys played on some of

1479
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: the most dynamic offenses in college football history, and back

1480
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 1: to back years, Baker and Tyler they won the Heisman

1481
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: and back to back years and they played on Sunday.

1482
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: And there's hope for the Cardinals though they get Andre

1483
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: Hopkins back. Yeah, there's no there's no hope in Carolina. Next,

1484
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 1: come on, Poison. I'll have a little faith better or worse.

1485
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: The Eagles come in on the ESPN list at number three.

1486
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: The Eagles at number three, Poisel, Um, I think I

1487
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: think higher here and I'm going by one. Um, I'd

1488
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: have the top three as in this order, Bills, Eagles,

1489
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: and Chiefs. I just I think Philly is still just

1490
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: a better overall team than the Chiefs and the only

1491
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: undefeated team left in the league obviously deserves to be

1492
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: in the top two of my I like it. I

1493
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: think it's just right. I think that if there was

1494
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: a game played today between them and the Chiefs or

1495
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: them the Bills, they would be underdogs. I don't know

1496
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: if that would be true against anybody else. So they

1497
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: get the Packers. Yeah, you're exactly right on the Oh

1498
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: my god, there's one here that's coming up. I don't

1499
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: even know if this ye it is on the list. Um,

1500
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are the best team in football. They're the

1501
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: best team in football right now. The Bills have real

1502
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: injuries in the secondary. Uh. The Chiefs have the crazy

1503
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: loss to the Colts where if Kelsey doesn't have the

1504
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: drop he win that game. That's it. Other than that,

1505
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: they beat everybody they played. They beat in the Bucks,

1506
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: they beat the Chargers at full strength. That's the best

1507
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: squad in football to me. So what do you have

1508
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: against the Eagles that I'm just kind of have anything

1509
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 1: against them. I just I'm not buying all in on

1510
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: hate on Herd versus Mahomes. And if you say to me,

1511
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,799
Speaker 1: all right, you gotta risk your three lovely boys future

1512
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: in you know, college education on one team. Give me

1513
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: that one over the one with Jalen Hurts. That's why

1514
01:18:55,439 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: it's playing very well. He's the third best. I think

1515
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: they're the third best team in the league. I think

1516
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: I think that's very fair. Lower. So the first one

1517
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 1: I didn't hear at all, and then that one just bomb,

1518
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: Like what is going on? The variable on it is stunning?

1519
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, do you have is the traveling music playing?

1520
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: I could, I can't. I'm not even sure what's happening.

1521
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: Two sounds here, So there's the problem is happening, Okay,

1522
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: and then let's do this. Forget the sounder. I'll do

1523
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: the next, I'll do the next, and we'll just do

1524
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 1: traveling music all right, better or worse. The Los Angeles

1525
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: Rams are six. They're six, They're off. That was what

1526
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 1: I was most appalled by on all the teams on

1527
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: this list. Most appalled by the Rams at six. And

1528
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: I just smoked him that sense, yeah, no sense. This

1529
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: list is hot garbage. It's awful. It's an awful list.

1530
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to think, all right, where would

1531
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: I actually put the Rams based probably like around fifteen, Yeah,

1532
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: I was like a ten fifteen range and throw him

1533
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: anywhere in there. I think that's fine. They just they

1534
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: were I mean, there was no point last what was

1535
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 1: it the Monday night game, right, there was no point

1536
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: where it looked like they were a competent team that

1537
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: deserves to be in the top ten. They can only

1538
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: throw it to Cooper Cup. They can't run it, they

1539
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: can't protect Stafford. He's getting all luncheon and beaten. It's

1540
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: like Lions Days for him again. All of a sudden,

1541
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: the idea that they're six is laughable. Man, Like, what's

1542
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: it gonna take for them to get lower? On this is?

1543
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: I feel like every week we've seen the Rams and

1544
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: near the top of these lists, and it's just like,

1545
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: when what is it going to take for them to

1546
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 1: get lower? And I understand the defending Super Bowl champions

1547
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: they've got like Ramsey and Donald and Stafford and people like,

1548
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: oh my good, they're bad at football. We said this

1549
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: the first game. They're bad. They're not good. They need

1550
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: Odell back, they do. But I mean he's I mean

1551
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: still a month away. It feels that he just keeps

1552
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: talking about all the people who wants to play for.

1553
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: He loves it, he loves it. Good for him. It

1554
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: is good of other doubt all right, I'm gonna do

1555
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: this sound effect myself and and my calling for the

1556
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: sound effect next better. I think it actually happened as well.

1557
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: That was amazing. I don't know, but it did. Just

1558
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: say that better or worse unbelievable as it should be,

1559
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 1: as it should are the Vikings better or worse than

1560
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 1: number seven? A Um, I'm still gonna go worse, but

1561
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: not by a whole lot. I think I'd still pick

1562
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: the These are teams up behind when the Bucks, Ravens

1563
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 1: and even the Bengals I think to beat them. Um,

1564
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Kirk Cousins will be able to kind

1565
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: of keep things up for them in the past game.

1566
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: I know Justin Jefferson is good, but he kind of

1567
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: feels like what we were talking about with Cooper Cup

1568
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: just a minute ago. He's kind of their only weapon

1569
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 1: right now. Adam, Theland hasn't really been producing a whole lot.

1570
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: I just don't know if this is sustainable for the Vikings.

1571
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: They're fun, they're fun offense. When they're cooking, it's it's

1572
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: really fun. And Theeland last week was good against the Saints.

1573
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: Dalvin has been banged up with Madison. That's a good

1574
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: one to punch. Jefferson's great. They just like shut it

1575
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: down half the time, which I don't understands. Like they're

1576
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: playing great, like they should have smoked the Saints last

1577
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: week and then they did it. But they're not beating

1578
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,919
Speaker 1: the Ravens or the Bengals or the Bucks or the Chargers.

1579
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't think for that They're they're worse. They're They're

1580
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: a team that I think has a chance to They're

1581
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs is barring a disastrous injury.

1582
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 1: But they're not a team of great consequence. It breaks

1583
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: my heart, my man. Dan Campbell just blew it with

1584
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: the Lions, just blew it because his offense is good enough,

1585
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: good enough. Clearly he can't. He can't. It's a historically

1586
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: I want the Lions to be on more prime time

1587
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: games like that once they get Jamison Williams back, like

1588
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: they're a circus act. Man, it's gonna be unreal better

1589
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: or worse the Cowboys? Are they better or worse than

1590
01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: number eleven in the league's core? All right? I just

1591
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: have to look this up. Real Who have they beaten

1592
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: in this Cooper Rush period? The Giants two weeks ago. Unimpressed.

1593
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: I was looking at this earlier and I know they

1594
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: were there three and one. Al right, so they have beaten.

1595
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 1: They beat the Bengals seventeen, which was a surprise. They

1596
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: beat the Giants, and then they beat the Commies, who

1597
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: are dreadful. They get the Rams this week, Like, I

1598
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: feel like the Rams should beat them, but will they

1599
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then they get the Eagles. If

1600
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: they can, if they go to an oh here, I'll

1601
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 1: be blown away. My guesses they're gonna end up going

1602
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: oh and two. And so they are not better. I

1603
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: mean Rush, he's been very efficient. I mean if that

1604
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: comes back two weeks from now, you I mean they're

1605
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: playing the Eagle. That's a second game, right, the Eagles second.

1606
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't it's okay, I don't think. I don't think.

1607
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: What if they lose to the Rams, Like, is that

1608
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: really even a discussion? If they beat the Rams, do

1609
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 1: they even think of not bringing that back? No? No,

1610
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: no chance. Jerry monkeyed around at that lier in that

1611
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 1: like last month he was talking about that a little bit. Yeah, No,

1612
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: they're not better than the forty niners. No, within Chargers,

1613
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: what are we doing? What is the ESPN, I said,

1614
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: I still said, I think it's just right for the

1615
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys right now, but it's we're gonna know these next

1616
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: two games, yeah, all right, next or worse? All right?

1617
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 1: Who's better or worse? Right now? I'm going off script.

1618
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: Bengals are Chargers, Bengals are Chargers. Who's better right now?

1619
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: As constructed, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say the Bengals,

1620
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: And I don't. I just think that they have they're

1621
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: not as injury injury banged up right now. Um, and

1622
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: I like I just like their receiving corps, what they

1623
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: have with Joe Brow. I think they're gonna, you know,

1624
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 1: keep connecting and building soon. So I would say the

1625
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: Bengals right now. Sorry that it's pretty even, That's what

1626
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I kind of I think it's a pretty

1627
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: even one. Like if I had to, I think I

1628
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: probably take the Bengals just because it feels like the

1629
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: Chargers don't win those kind of big games. Um, but

1630
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, no Bosa, no Slater, the fact that the

1631
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: Bengals still can't protect Burnow, he doesn't look quite as

1632
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: good as he has in the past, and they cannot

1633
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: run the ball. Neither can the Chargers. I think Chargers

1634
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: have more playmakers on their defense right now than the

1635
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: Bengals are really solid defensively, Jamie Jackson. I would take

1636
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: the Chargers defense over the Bengals defense for sure, and

1637
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: I think they match up kind of well with them.

1638
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals defense right now is better than

1639
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: the Charges defense. I just think that the Charger have

1640
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: more talent. They're more talent, Yes, so that I mean,

1641
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: would that mean the Charges are gonna eventually? I mean, well,

1642
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: the operation is not having it's a big loss. Bosa

1643
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: and May. The Bengals are playing pretty soon, but they

1644
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: didn't have j. C. Jackson's was injured earlier, so he's

1645
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 1: just getting back into it. Yeah, alright, here's uh, let's go.

1646
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: Let's go down all the way to the next better

1647
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: or worse. Vegas Raiders twenty two on this list. They

1648
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: were thirty on this list last week, which is it's

1649
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: a stupid it's a ridiculous ranking. So here's here. Here's

1650
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: let's do three of these at once. Vegas Raiders twenty two,

1651
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: you guys rank them better to worse? Vegas Raiders twenty two.

1652
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: Lions A Colts are twenty six one to three those

1653
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 1: for me Vegas Vests Lions that that order, I would

1654
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: go Vegas Lions, Colts still um without I know the

1655
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: Lions defense has been at anybody, but the Colts have

1656
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 1: still I mean, what have they shown this year that

1657
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: makes the chiefs? Okay, that's right, I apologize that, but

1658
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: that's it. But that's it. That's the end of the life.

1659
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: But I think the Lions eventually are going to have

1660
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: a game, maybe not necessarily being the chief, but they're

1661
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 1: gonna have a game like that where it's like this

1662
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: is a game that really they shouldn't win and they

1663
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: managed to pull it together. I'd certainly much rather watch

1664
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: the Lions from saying they need more primetime games. I

1665
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: know it's not so that I often say, oh, next,

1666
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 1: better or worse. Al Right, Bears come in at twenty

1667
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:06,759
Speaker 1: eight on this Steelers twenty nine, Commies are thirty, Panthers

1668
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: are thirty one, Houston is thirty two. Better to worst

1669
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: those five Bears, Steelers, Commies, Panthers, Texas Steelers are still

1670
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 1: the best. Then I would go with I think the

1671
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: Commies over the Bears. I think I put the Bears

1672
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: the second, but didn't the Texans beat the Bears. The

1673
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: Bears and they beat the Texans beat the Texans, and

1674
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: they win ugly when they win. But yeah, they don't

1675
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: any other circumstances in week one. I think I think

1676
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: you have it right on that the question is Commies

1677
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: or Bears, and then it's Panthers the I think, yeahs

1678
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 1: I agree that that's that's the way I put it too.

1679
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't have I don't have a lot to add there, Bake,

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Speaker 1: it was I don't know, brutal. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: much you guys have talked about what what do you have?

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01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 1: Not much not on the team. What do you have

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Speaker 1: first look forward to this week? Well, we got to

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01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: see how the defense kind of gets to act together

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01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Um, hopefully they're healthy. Yeah, are you talking

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Speaker 1: content wise? What I'm looking for the game? All the

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Speaker 1: people where they can get all the stuff you're doing. Yeah,

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01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 1: tell them, tell them, give us you get some stuff

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01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 1: to look forward to. Absolutely, Cleveland Browns dot com. We

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01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 1: have a couple of big players coming back today, as

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys have already discussed with Greedy and Miles,

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Speaker 1: So um, we'll just kind of continue to follow how

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01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: they're doing throughout the week. Obviously two guys that would

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01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 1: be a really big boost of the defense. Hopefully we

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01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: can get Jadeveon back at some point to um, that

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01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: would be helpful. Yeah, but um, that's really the biggest

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01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: thing I'm focusing on right now is just you know what,

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01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: when when are they gonna be able to come back?

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01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 1: And and hopefully we brought a big jolt to a

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01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 1: defense that really needs one right now, needs it. A

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01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 1: good job of you, Yes, tremendous. We'll talk to you

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01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 1: next week, so much more to come. You listen to

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily Ones and Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily sp

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Speaker 1: and Cleveland Catch the Brown's preview show tonight at seven

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Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Corey b Orkes joins

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Browns Jim Donovan and Ken Carmen

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01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: and Gerard on the show tonight. You have that to

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01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: look forward to, which is very very nice. I got

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01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 1: head down to the team shop after this. I gotta

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01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: I got a birthday coming up. Not on what are

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01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: you going to get? Why don't I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: possibly that she pulled them early from school. They're listening.

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01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think you can do it on Friday. You're

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01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: doing pick Latin. I don't remember how to do that.

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01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: You just put like you take the first let. It's

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Speaker 1: like if you're going to get a was that wedding crashers?

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't think it was a crashers,

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01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: But it's not pick Latin. Yeah, that's what it is.

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01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. Oh no, no, no no, it's made,

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Speaker 1: it's made made. When he's with Favreau and there he's

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Speaker 1: trying to talk just keetnedy it, I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. It alright, enjoy your

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Speaker 1: first Friday kids, gorgeous day out there. You get outside,

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Speaker 1: get up there and live a little bit. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow. The next level is coming up next. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for list everybody, Cleveland, ESPN Cleveland, you've been listening to

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