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Speaker 2: We're gonna need each other for this one. You think, bitch,

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Speaker 2: there's a pink elephant in the room.

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Speaker 1: That's what I love about it, too, is a little

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Speaker 1: Single Soon? It's a contender for me for a Record

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Speaker 2: There is something wrong with her, and you will not

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Speaker 2: But this podcast broke all the news that Epic Universe

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Speaker 1: We're so gifted.

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Speaker 2: We're gifted. We're periodic. I'm sorry, I'm not. It's the

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Speaker 2: year of ambition and verve. This is the year of

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Speaker 2: ambition in verb.

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Speaker 1: That's why you put what's that song? Single soon? That's

438
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Speaker 1: why you're spinning single soon? Is because you feel invincible.

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Speaker 2: I'm single now. Oh, can I tell you something? It's

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Speaker 2: a Ruler culture number four single soon. I'm a single

441
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Speaker 2: now and I'm acting like it out in the streets.

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Speaker 2: I'm at Barries five times a week, and are you

443
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Speaker 2: are you picking up trade at Berrie's.

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Speaker 1: I'm not picking up trade at Barries because can I

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Speaker 1: tell you something, I'm very much deeply in the Kadie

446
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Speaker 1: population when I am at Barries. What does that mean?

447
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Speaker 2: I feel as though it's eighty percent Kadi's twenty percent

448
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Speaker 2: gay guys. I'm gonna say, ur named Kyle Kyle, and

449
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Speaker 2: can I say the Kyles? I see you and I

450
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Speaker 2: know you're out there part of the fandom. There are

451
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Speaker 2: Kyles that listen to this podcast. There are Kyles.

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Speaker 1: I had a Kyle come up to me New Year's

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Speaker 1: Day at Wrecked and this Kyle was the Kyle.

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Speaker 2: Of all Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know who Kyle is.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was like Alpha Kyle. He was like six good,

457
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Speaker 2: the six foot six guy, like whatever, all muscle. I

458
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Speaker 2: was like, okay, Kyle squared.

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Speaker 1: He was Kyle squared and he was very sweet and

460
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Speaker 1: then all he wanted to do was talk to me

461
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Speaker 1: about Anatomy of a Fall. I was like, you're a Kyle,

462
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Speaker 1: Go off, Kyle. He was like, have you seen any

463
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Speaker 1: like Awards movies yet? I was like yeah, like a few,

464
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Speaker 1: like he was very That is a Kyle.

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Speaker 2: Talking about anatomy of a fall at wrecked? Is you coded? Well?

466
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Speaker 1: I'm saying that if you see a tall muscle gay,

467
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Speaker 1: don't write them off as a circuit queen. They might

468
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Speaker 1: like they might just they might love the work of

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Speaker 1: Just and Sandra Hueler. They might just be sweet guys

470
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: who like film. Some of these people are like wearing

471
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Speaker 1: the sheep's clothing of for some reason. The sheep are

472
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Speaker 1: muscle circuit guys. But they're wolves and the wolves are

473
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Speaker 1: I'm following the film experience dot Net prediction index.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can I tell you something? Yes, I found this out.

475
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Speaker 2: Me and Sandra Huler have the same agent. Shout out

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Speaker 2: Houston Costa who not for nothing, Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's lovely, Thank you Houston. Shout out.

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Speaker 2: Shout out, I mean hand some effective agent also represents

479
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Speaker 2: Grete Lee.

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Speaker 1: That is quite the roster. Matt Rogers. Hi, I'm Houston.

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Speaker 1: I represent Matt Rogers and this is just.

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Speaker 2: A shout out to Houston. I'm ready to audition whenever.

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Speaker 1: Girl. Houston't get to work, No, he wore I know,

484
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Speaker 1: I am kidding.

485
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Speaker 2: He works constantly. He's one of the hardest workers. I'm

486
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Speaker 2: proud of him.

487
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Speaker 1: Had a good team.

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Speaker 2: We almost have the same team, but we have we have,

489
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Speaker 2: but we have some divergences.

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Speaker 1: We have slight I would not even say overlap. We

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Speaker 1: have tangential points that the circles are touching but not

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Speaker 1: fully occupying the same area.

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Speaker 2: This is a peak behind the curtain. We have the

494
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Speaker 2: same manager, we have several of the same agents, and

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Speaker 2: it ends there.

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Speaker 1: That's really it. Several is even generous, I would say

497
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Speaker 1: a couple. Yeah, and that's.

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Speaker 2: Sort of our team. That's a peak behind the curtain.

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Speaker 2: Get to know the family.

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Speaker 1: Houston well, the legend Olivia. She has been part of

501
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Speaker 1: our life for many years. She is an important force.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the year that we're going to culturally excavate, that

504
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: was I think the year we both started working with

505
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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's not that's not my year. But I was twenty

507
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Speaker 1: year were you twenty eighteen? I was twenty eighteen. I

508
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Speaker 1: was the next year. Should we get into the year

509
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Speaker 1: or do you have more to talk about? Well, I

510
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Speaker 1: just wanted to say about Epic UNI.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, of course, Okay, So there's I just wanted

512
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Speaker 2: to say about Epic universe lands the story of my life.

513
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: There's never been a celestial Celestial Park is basically, so

514
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: you gotta go online and really check out what this

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Speaker 2: is going to look like, because it's going to be stunning.

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Speaker 1: So can we pause and talk about the word celestial

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Speaker 1: one of the most go on. I'm just gonna say

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Speaker 1: when I don't mean to interrupt your No, this is

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Speaker 1: important that you do this. Celestial is one of the

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Speaker 1: most beautiful evocative words in the English language.

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Speaker 2: I think they knew that when they picked it for

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Speaker 2: the gardens Celestial.

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Speaker 1: The first time I heard celestial was in Digimon Wow.

524
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Speaker 1: Anja woman has an attack called I think celestial arrows

525
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Speaker 1: or something, and I thought and something. I felt the

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Speaker 1: free song. Even as a young child, I said, what

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Speaker 1: is that?

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Speaker 2: What was that? Okay, James, I said, Celestial? The name

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Speaker 2: Celesti is very important.

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Speaker 1: In my life.

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Speaker 2: Oh the legend Celestium of time of time. Oh the

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Speaker 2: title of EPP Celestial Celestial colon the Legend of Time.

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Speaker 2: That's the title of app. Talk about Celestial Park and

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Speaker 2: the other parks.

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Speaker 1: There is a.

536
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Speaker 2: Carousel called Constellation Carousel, which is themed to the constellations.

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Speaker 2: It will not move in a circle. It will move

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Speaker 2: in a figure eight. And what do you ride? You

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Speaker 2: ride constellations, Darling.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that even looks like, but stay

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Speaker 1: tuned off.

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Speaker 2: And it will be many restaurants and themed attractions within

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Speaker 2: Celestial Gardens, because epic Universe is supposed to conjure up

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Speaker 2: the universe.

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Speaker 1: And what more evocative thing than the stars than space?

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Speaker 2: Can I say it all goes back to space? It

547
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Speaker 2: truly does. And you know that we also often set

548
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Speaker 2: things that we do in space. You'll remember the third

549
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Speaker 2: act of Night Soap.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have an idea this week for something.

551
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Speaker 1: You have to go to space. You have to bring

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Speaker 1: I out of space. I want to bring iouta space.

553
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: Oh she belongs there? Can we say? Io is hosting

554
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Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live?

555
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Speaker 2: That is the first like friend of ours that is

556
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Speaker 2: gonna go host Saturday Night Live. I'm gonna go. And

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Speaker 2: when I heard the musical guys was j Lo? I said,

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Speaker 2: Io and j Lo? That's yes, so powerful, I said,

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Speaker 2: Io and j Loo, yes so So the Celestial Gardens

560
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: will be the center of it will be the Grand

561
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Speaker 2: Helios Hotel, which is which correct, you know exactly where

562
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Speaker 2: this is going so it's the elements.

563
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: It is water, it is wind, it is the sun.

564
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Speaker 1: And don't forget Earth, Mama, I didn't.

565
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Speaker 2: I didn't. Okay, it seems like you did. You have

566
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Speaker 2: to welcome on Earth's get through the park all you

567
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Speaker 2: said three things. Well, just don't I feel like we've

568
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Speaker 2: been on the same page. Girl.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting you back in the book Violent Girl Island Girl.

570
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Speaker 1: This morning. I to hey, Violent, Violent, Violent.

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Speaker 2: You have to see pictures of those hotel. It's gonna

572
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: line the back of the park. It's like the monument. Yeah,

573
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Speaker 2: the Four Lands for the children. We have had to

574
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Speaker 2: train your Dragon the Isle of Burke.

575
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Speaker 1: They're shooting a live action how to Train Your Dragon.

576
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Speaker 1: You're kidding me, Well, it can't come into better time.

577
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: My good sister Bronwyn James in Wicked is now currently

578
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: in Scotland shooting to how to Train your fucking kidding me.

579
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 1: She's having a blash, she's learning archery.

580
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: She's gonna be in Wicked and how to Train Your

581
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Speaker 2: Dragon is the universal ip, the universal ip. She's a empress,

582
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Speaker 2: she's she's she's she's Leeds legend.

583
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Speaker 1: Look out for Bronwyn James.

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Speaker 2: Y'all is that announced that she's going to be in

585
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Speaker 2: live action How to Train Yes, yes it has so

586
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: that's one length and it will have several attractions, one

587
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: including a roller coaster that will be okay for kids. Yes,

588
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: that will be a live show called Untrainable, which is

589
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: from another overseas Universal Park. It's escaping me right now,

590
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: but it will be stunning.

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Speaker 1: I love.

592
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Speaker 2: There will be a great hall restaurant if you've seen

593
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: the How to Train Your Dragon films, among other things,

594
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: a bunch of flat rides. Let's move over and listen.

595
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: Talk about problematic, but this is just is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Ga City there will be There will be Gag City.

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Speaker 1: Can you fucking imagine?

598
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: Can you imagine going like they spend millions and millions

599
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: billions of dollars on Gag City Universal and then this happens.

600
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Speaker 2: So there's a Harry Potter section. It will Ministry of

601
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Speaker 2: Ministry of Magic. So this what I'm hearing is called

602
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: Harry Potter and the Battle of the Ministry of Magic.

603
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: And the main villain is Dolores Umbridge, which is kind

604
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Speaker 2: of cunned.

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Speaker 1: If Amelda she looked, but Amelda getting a amel doesn't

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Speaker 1: give a shit about pre ride experiences. We don't know

607
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Speaker 1: that yet. I think she does. I think Amelda, I'm

608
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm whatever about Amelda. Can I tell you something?

609
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Speaker 2: You never forget Glenn Close and the Audians of the

610
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Speaker 2: Galaxy Cosmic Rienwind pre show mate.

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Speaker 1: I think Glenn Close understands the cultural value and importance

612
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Speaker 1: of a pre show. She plays Imani ray oh Emani.

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Speaker 1: What was better than that?

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Speaker 2: You know that when she put the wig on, she said,

615
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: she said, I'm Amani, I'm mild. She's been doing work

616
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Speaker 2: to make sure she's serving Imani.

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00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: And we love Glenn. The eye line was fucked. She

618
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: was reading the prophets, reading the prompter left to right

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Speaker 1: and to and fro.

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Speaker 2: But that's okay. She's one of our great actors, one

621
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Speaker 2: of our greats. She couldn't be off book because none

622
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Speaker 2: of the words make any sense in the pre show,

623
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Speaker 2: so it would be hard for gotten to be off book.

624
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: This is the thing, Matt and I will be off book.

625
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: Don't even question whether or not we get Okay, am

626
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Speaker 2: I about to drag someone.

627
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Speaker 1: There's a certain pre show I drag.

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Speaker 2: No.

629
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Speaker 1: No, there's a certain pre show in Disney.

630
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Speaker 2: Where every single time I'm there, I say this should

631
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Speaker 2: be bowing you know what I'm talking about.

632
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the guy in Avatar by passage?

633
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Speaker 1: That's very nice of you. I think that should be you.

634
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: That's so nice. That's the like.

635
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but why isn't that bowen Yang? You can

636
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Speaker 2: find it online. I'm sure like every second of it

637
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: should be bowen Yang and it's not. Every second of

638
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: it is someone else. But okay, okay, so there is

639
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm getting to the most exciting one last for me,

640
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: which will surprise them. Then there's Super Nintendo World, which,

641
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: if you've been to Universal Studios Hollywood, you know the

642
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: Mario Kart ride em hm for me. But it's also

643
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: gonna have a Yoshi Omni mover and a Donkey Kong

644
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 2: Country with a Donkey Kong coaster called Minecart Madness where

645
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: the car will jump the tracks.

646
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: Think this is the fourth time you've mentioned it on

647
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: this podcast.

648
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: Moving on, Then there's The Dark Universe, Yes, which which

649
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: is the Universal Monsters and the main ride takes place

650
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: in Frankenstein's Castle and stars Victoria Frankenstein. But is this

651
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: of the Diablo Cody movie. No, that's Lisa frankl The last. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I can keep up with this Stan family. I said,

653
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: who's gonna play Victoria? Naomi Watts. No, I hope not.

654
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: I think not because no, not because I don't love Ney,

655
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: because I want I want better things for Nee. I'm

656
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: excited for few Capodium Swans. You need to make up

657
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: your mind better things for Nee. We're saying this is

658
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: the pinnacle of show business.

659
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: You know what You're right, Naomi. I hope that you booked.

660
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: I hope that you booked, just like I'm excited that

661
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: you bood Coyote Coyote Capodi versus Swans. Can I tell

662
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: you I love Truman Capodi in Cold Blood one of

663
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: my favorite books. I he was the original mess. He

664
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: was the original mess. It's actually real coachure number one hundred.

665
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: Truman was the original mess. And these Swans. Diane Lane

666
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: to me, Molly, Molly Roland, Callista, Callista playing Lee Radzeville,

667
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: Carol found Born, that's my mother in law, she said,

668
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 2: that's my mother in law, Carol.

669
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: Another woman whose brain has been rotted by fame. Anyway,

670
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: do we think that?

671
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, album all the housewives, on some level, there's

672
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: at least a dime sized marble sized hole in every

673
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: Housewives brain Can I say I wear some in mind?

674
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: I wouldn't change a thing about any of them. Speaking

675
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: of housewives, You're not gonna believe this. I was personally invited,

676
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: as were you. You can't make it, but I will

677
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: be going to the Legends show on Friday, Countess lu Ann,

678
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: I will be there about fifty four below. I am

679
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: so excited. I'm going to have my party cabaret shoes on.

680
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: I am so excited for Lou oh be singles. I

681
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: hope she doesn't cover. Can you imagine like Countess Lou

682
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: doing single soon? It would be so jazzy. I can't

683
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: even I'm so excited. You will get a full, well

684
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: not a full review. You're going to a short review

685
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: on the podcast next week because we actually have a guest.

686
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: We will not reveal who the guest is. You're gonna

687
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: love it. I can't wait for you to go to

688
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: what is this Friday? This is Friday so exciting.

689
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 2: And tonight if you're listening to this album on Wednesday,

690
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: I'm hosting Ariano Maddox's book It Show event at town

691
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: Hall tonight Wednesday. Are you seeing her in Chicago while

692
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 2: you're here? I would love to I'm like jam packed.

693
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see if I can potentially get something for

694
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: Saturday Day. Yeah, but I really want to because if

695
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: I don't go this week, then I'm not gonna be

696
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: able to go at all, I think because I have to.

697
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: I have to be in La for good reasons. Yes,

698
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna see I'm gonna try. I'm seeing Sarah Paulson

699
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Speaker 2: Inappropriate with mss L.

700
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Speaker 1: Love that, and.

701
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm also seeing Cola Scola show. Oh oh Mary, Oh Mary.

702
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: I actually have a fun night on Saturday, a great night.

703
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go see Cole show, and then I'm

704
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: gonna go to your show, love that, And I really

705
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: want to see Oh hold on, let's pause. Let's let's pause.

706
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: While we pause, I'm just gonna sing, oh be single soon,

707
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: ah be single soon.

708
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: I know he'll beat a mess Lana, Okay, Oh be

709
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: single soon? Oh be single soon. I added that I oh,

710
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: my favorite part was coming up.

711
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: Oh I let's say hello one, stay out later about one.

712
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: I wanna do a one do. I'm picking out the dress,

713
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: die it on these shoes.

714
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: It is, oh be single soon.

715
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: It's such a bob girl. You ate that gotta come

716
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Speaker 1: on the.

717
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: Pod Lena, we would love to we would we would

718
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: tickle you with compliments now not our fingers. I understand

719
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: that that's controversial, controversial, Not everyone likes that.

720
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: Some great shows that I want to see as well.

721
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: Seven Years Disappear, starting Taylor Trench, former guests Nixon, Oh

722
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: and written by Jordan Sevie. And also I need to

723
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: go and see The Connector Scott Bacula and Ben and

724
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Speaker 1: Ben leave Rock.

725
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Wow, that's exciting. Scvacula, what a little hunk.

726
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: Oh, totally remember Looking, We're Looking.

727
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: It was just I guess the anniversary of Looking.

728
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: Yes, And I'm actually I never watched past the third

729
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: episode of the first season, and I'm giving it a

730
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: full rewatch. No, it's really good. It got really good.

731
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 2: It got really good.

732
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Speaker 1: I just like, I'm like, this is at the time

733
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: and it still kind of is like revolutionary. Yeah.

734
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: I think that people were very hard on that show

735
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: because breaking news, like the gays all hate each other

736
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: but not you, Kyle, but all we love you.

737
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: Kyle. You did great, You were really good with Looking.

738
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: You're talking about Kyle in general, I'm talking about the Kyle.

739
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 2: It's not surprising that looking didn't have like a ground

740
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: swell of support because.

741
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm not getting get into it, but just like it.

742
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: Didn't get the appreciation it deserved. It was actually great,

743
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: and that end of the first season was really good.

744
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: And then friend, my dearest Michael Sue Rosen is in

745
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: the movie. He gets fucked by Jonathan Groff and then

746
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: they have a sweet scene. Anyway, Happy birthday, Michael. Oh,

747
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 2: I love him.

748
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: He's a sweetheart. I love him.

749
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: So we love you, Michael Sue ros and Michael Sue.

750
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: Should we do the cultural excavation.

751
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: Let's do the cultural excavation, and let's just.

752
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: Put out there you all were assuming experience twenty seventeen

753
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: with the rest of us. Yeah, this is my thesis

754
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: going in, not to sour the whole thing, not to

755
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: cast a pall from the start. I'm looking at like

756
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: best picture, highest grossing film, Like the albums of the year,

757
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: like with the exception of one, really I think seminal album,

758
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: like most of the culture of this year.

759
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: Even I'm gonna say the celebrity deaths, there were a

760
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: lot this year.

761
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: Remember that. I was gonna say, there weren't that many. Oh,

762
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: there weren't.

763
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: Why do I seem to remember twenty seven. Oh yeah,

764
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: so who died? Oh Hugh Hefner, Mary Tyler Moore. That

765
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 2: was a big loss for breaking Bill Paxton. I mean

766
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: Bill Paxton was an icon to me for his performance

767
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: of Twister. Twister and talk about great pre show acting.

768
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: Amazing pre show acting in the Twister appreciation.

769
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: Oh Helen, then Bill Paxton and that Twister a pre

770
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: show ate that up and they could not film it

771
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: together because they what did made along? Yeah, okay, well

772
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: let's just go through.

773
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get ahead of myself and maybe you you

774
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: can be the person who decides. I just think as

775
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: we go down this list, after that fucking banger of

776
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: a year two thousand and nine that we just went through,

777
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: this is.

778
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: It's definitely we're sea sawing here, we're sea sawing. So

779
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine was a year of so much

780
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: promise and potential, and two thousand and nine was the

781
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: year so many things broke open and it.

782
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: Felt like it was a lift.

783
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen that was a downer, you know what I mean,

784
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: Like this was obviously let's just get it out. Trump inaugurated,

785
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: starting things off with dreadful vibes.

786
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: Trump inaugurated Muslim travel band Women's March, which is its

787
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: own little bummer and its own little men, and it

788
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: was an amazing moment. But the fact that it had

789
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: to happen, the fact that it had to happen, and

790
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: then the fact that it sort of was deflated with

791
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: all this internal drama in the years since.

792
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: But you know, what a moment.

793
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: And then also we'll get into this later, but like

794
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: the year that me too sort of broke open.

795
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of okay, But let's start with film.

796
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: So this Star with films is just the tone that

797
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: we're setting because this was the year. Well I'm literally.

798
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: Looking at like the top grossing film, people, and the

799
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: top grossing film was Star Wars episode seven, The Last

800
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: Jedi eight eight. Oh shit really? Uh oh, I didn't

801
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: see that third one? Yes, episode eight.

802
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

803
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: I literally identify as a Star Wars fan and I

804
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: knew that. I did know that, you guys, Star Wars

805
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 2: episode eight. The this is Remember how negative.

806
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: People were about this such a controversial and I think

807
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: it still holds a lot of mixed feeling within the

808
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: Star Wars. I like this movie a lot. It's like

809
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: Ryan Johnson knows what he's doing.

810
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: I just feel like the disrespect and the it was

811
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: weird because it was like with Star Wars reboot, right,

812
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: It's like, first of all, it exists to service the fans, yes,

813
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: but also within that you do want it to be

814
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: like its own, engaging, risky movie, right, And they did

815
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: so much in that movie that was bold and risky

816
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: and fun, entertaining, and like you know, the reveal spoiler

817
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: alert that Ray was no one, she didn't have like

818
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: lineage that like tied her to anything.

819
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: I thought was kind of a chic choice. Love that choice.

820
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: And then like when episode nine comes out a few

821
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 2: years later, like they reveal actually she was Palpatine's granddaughter

822
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: or whatever the fuck, which I also appreciated for its

823
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: own drag, Like I remember Rise of Skywalker essentially a

824
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: drag film. They're all dragged on.

825
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: It's a space.

826
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: A space offer for kids.

827
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: For chilling treads.

828
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: So people seem to forget that and they act like

829
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: they've been like gunned down by like these movies when

830
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: they're not exactly what they want them to be or

831
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: they don't. It's weird, Like did you want a retreat

832
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: of Empire strikes Back, or did you want something that

833
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: tried to have the impact and influence of Empire strikes

834
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: Back for me, one of the greatest movies of all

835
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: time in its own right, and I feel like that's

836
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: what Ryan Johnson went for, and people were not responding

837
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: well because I think that they, if they were to

838
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: be truly honest, wanted something that was more of more repetition.

839
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: Then they're actually comfortable admitting with a franchise like Star Wars,

840
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: I think you can never win because Force Awakens was

841
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: to was to like Paint by Numbers, a New Hope nine.

842
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: Rise of Skyworker, which I don't hate, by the way, No,

843
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: I think it's really fun. It's so fun like fucking

844
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: Ray and Kylo Ren's moment in nine is actually I

845
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: love it.

846
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: When they kissed, it's so funny, beamed out loud, it's amazing.

847
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: I was so happy, by the way this is. It

848
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: didn't come out this year, but Rise of Skywalker Matt

849
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: Whittaker and I saw it in forty X Love the

850
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: same day we saw Cats and the seats moved and

851
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 2: Chess the seats were flying around and Matt, God love him,

852
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: doesn't do well with that and when I tell you

853
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 2: forty X, something that gets lost is that they spray

854
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: you with water so aggressively. By the way, this came

855
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: out like weeks before the pandemic.

856
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: So we're in chairs.

857
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: That are like flying around getting sprayed with water, and

858
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: Rise of Skywalker came out, and the pandemic like was

859
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 2: being born like somewhere else in the world.

860
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: And it made me laugh.

861
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 2: I just said, this was so funny because to think

862
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: that we were just in an atmosphere where forget up

863
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: being careful for the droplets were out like.

864
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: We were be sprayed by moldy water.

865
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: Like oh god. So but anyway, that's enough for another day.

866
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: Very very honey, I shruck the audience.

867
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: Very that very that bowen. Well done, Thank you, incredible

868
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: park history, theme park performances by.

869
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: You, Rick Moranas, Thank you amazing. That was my favorite ride.

870
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: For a second. I was like, we have to go

871
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: to epcots like you. We can do, honey, I sh

872
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: the audience.

873
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: I remember being too scared to go on it because

874
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: I was what you're sitting down the whole time.

875
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: I know, honey, but this is what happened. Listen.

876
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 2: Violent what happened was I chose violence on myself by

877
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: being that little kid that was so excited and obsessed

878
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: with theme parks that I would research them to the

879
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: point where I knew everything about them going in.

880
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: And there was a snake.

881
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: The snake is a gag. You would it's so reputation.

882
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: I know.

883
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: I wish I wish I had been who I was

884
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: went today then because I would be so excited for

885
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: the snake. But I was so scared about the snake

886
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: jumping out that I didn't want to go.

887
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: And my dad got so pissed off. I remember and that,

888
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: and my grandmother was like stop, like go on the ride.

889
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: I'll stay with him. And I remember we watched the

890
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: jumping fountains.

891
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: It was you and your grandma and my grandmother god Rest,

892
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: and we sat and watched the jumping fountains. And that's

893
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: one of my greatest memories of her, is that she

894
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: sat with me when I was too scared to go

895
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: on the honey as the shrunk the kids, and we

896
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: watched the jumping fountains.

897
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: And I love my grandma. And a figment statue was

898
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: not far away, not far well. If Taylor Swift knows

899
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: what's good for her when Reputation TV comes out, she

900
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: should release it along with Honey, I shrunk the audience,

901
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: by the way.

902
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: So that all I never agreed with anything you said

903
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: ever more than this week.

904
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: And we'll get back to reputation in a bed. Oh

905
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: because guess don't forget don't the energy this synergy?

906
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So Star.

907
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: Wars episode anything I was, I mean, your Laura Dern

908
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: in a purple wig.

909
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: Oh, pew pw p pew pe pugh.

910
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: Of course she did pew the gun kinda kaziing into

911
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: a star Destroyer.

912
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: That's iconic.

913
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, it wasn't a star destroyer, no, she

914
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: she was in the Star Destroyer. Yeah, and then she

915
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: kind of cozy through it like the fucking yeah, she

916
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: she saved the day. Let's just be that.

917
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: I thought that was so well done, Like she was

918
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: great in that. She was better in that than she

919
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: wasn't marriage who.

920
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: I think that's just the sound dropping out when that happened,

921
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: like fucking Leah fucking floating through space. Oh yeah, that

922
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: was County. It is I I don't know where like

923
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: the fandom is that. I don't really engage too much

924
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: in it, but I hope we've all like caught up

925
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: to the risks and the boldness that that movie was

926
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: pulling off as a Disney franchise, as a Star Wars franchise.

927
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: That take, that takes a vision in a direction from

928
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: I I just love Ryan Johnson, me too so much

929
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: and huge fan, huge fan.

930
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: I just think eight, I hope we how do we

931
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 2: all feel?

932
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: Let us know?

933
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: I think you can't trust I don't know the fandom.

934
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: Like it's almost hard to be like an intense fan

935
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: of something and react in an honest way right away,

936
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: because you're either going to be overly enthusiastic or overly defensive,

937
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: uh or like overly dismissive, you know what I mean,

938
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: where it's just like it's ruined or it's incredible, or

939
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: it's just like it's gonna be something out of ten,

940
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 2: whereas like it's art, it's like it's sometimes it takes

941
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: a second, like you might not have the right take

942
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: right away, you know what I mean. Like, and I think, actually,

943
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: as we move into the Oscar section of this, it's

944
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 2: interesting because I think two of the movies that came

945
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: out this year are going to stand.

946
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: The test of times.

947
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: Yes, maybe several of these and neither of them are

948
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: the movie that won Best Picture, right.

949
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: I just also want to say, also, gad like when

950
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: Luke goes out into the field at the end and

951
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: like they all like fucking stood at him.

952
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

953
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: That's I just really love this. It was a good movie.

954
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: I mean, like, it's really fun and it gives you

955
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: it gives you the grandeur and the space operadness, and

956
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: it also gives you tension, and it also gives you

957
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: something different, which I think is important and a good thing.

958
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing too, especially coming out

959
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: of like the campiness of like the prequel trilogy. It's like, yeah,

960
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: this is a different kind of camp that is also

961
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: very well paired with like the gravitas and the tragedy

962
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: and on the violence and all this stuff. Like I

963
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: think it's I don't know, I really I really loved

964
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: Last Jedi. I sig mean. This is also the ninth

965
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: highest grossing film of all time. Okay, let's get into

966
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: the Oscar winners. So this was the year of the

967
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: Shape of Water. Thirteen nominations. Is she gonna fuck that fish?

968
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: Is she gonna fuck that fish?

969
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry, yes, George Severi's joke. Yeah, is she gonna

970
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: fuck that fish. She's gonna fuck that fish. You fuck

971
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: that fish? And Olivia Olivia Octaber TV Spencer played that

972
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: arc of are you gonna fuck that fish?

973
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: She's gonna fuck that fish? You fuck that fish? So well.

974
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: She received her second OSCAR nomination or her third second second,

975
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: She's all three The Help.

976
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 2: Then there was Jesus Christ, We're flopping, Oh, Hidden Figures,

977
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: Hidden Figures. I forget which came first, but that's not

978
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: our job yet.

979
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: I think it was The Help, Shape of Water and

980
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: then Hidden Figures. That sure, I think that's that's the way.

981
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: Let's say we think that.

982
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: Okay, we can't verify.

983
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: I have to say.

984
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: What's important to say is that I don't care about

985
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 2: this movie Shape of Water. Yeah, and I don't think

986
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: it's one that's gonna be like looked back on as

987
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: like an important film. However, I do understand it winning

988
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: the Best Picture Oscar because of the way that kind

989
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: of goes sometimes where it feels like not the safe thing,

990
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: because there's nothing safe about this movie, like it's essentially

991
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: like a creature of the Black Lagoon like update that

992
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: I think is like, you know, risky and bold. I

993
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: just when I look at the other movies that came

994
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: out this year, like there's so much year that, like

995
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: I feel is important, like for me, Get Out and

996
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: Lady Bird or.

997
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: Let Him Throt are there important? Yes, you know what

998
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: I mean. And even let's just say call me by

999
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: your name. Absolutely, let's even say it. I mean, don't

1000
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 1: you don't have to tell me twice and I don't

1001
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: have to tell you twice about how much I love

1002
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: Itania Love. I think Itania is an important film in

1003
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: terms of rocketing Margo. Not that she wasn't a star before,

1004
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: like she had star making performances that like put her

1005
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: in the A list, but I think this was like

1006
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: a solidifier. This solidified it for a lot of people.

1007
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I loved her in this. I loved

1008
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: her in this, and I just I really I liked

1009
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: the movie a lot. Also, I think it was my

1010
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: first real exposure, real knowledgeable exposure to Sebastian Stan who's

1011
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 2: my favorite, and was so the way he made Galuly hot.

1012
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 2: I was like, why don't do I want to fuck

1013
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: Glue right now?

1014
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: You want to? I think? I I think I want

1015
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: to fuck Galulee.

1016
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: And that was something revolutionary to want to fuck Jeff

1017
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 2: to want to fuck Jeff Galuley, Jeff Right, Yeah, Jeff Galule.

1018
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: The Shape of Water wedding, I think was kind of

1019
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: a given right because the other real competitor was Dunkirk,

1020
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: but that it like has ten less nominations than Shape

1021
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: of Water. I couldn't give a fuck about Dunkirk. Like

1022
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: for me, it's like, yeah, Shape of Water is like

1023
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 2: a Best Picture winner.

1024
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: Sure.

1025
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: For me, it's like, I remember there were two films

1026
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: that year, they were get Out and Lady Bird that

1027
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: felt to me like important important, not only because they

1028
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: like introduced like Greti Gerwig and Jordan Peele like in

1029
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 2: this way as like really important singular filmmakers going forward,

1030
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: but also like I felt get Out was so inventive.

1031
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: I felt it was so.

1032
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: Smart and great, and I loved like the blend of

1033
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: comedy and horror that he would become synonymous with. And

1034
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: as everyone knows, I don't do horror well, but I

1035
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: can watch this again and again and again.

1036
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: It actually is one of my favorite movies. Did you

1037
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: see Us?

1038
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: I could not handle us? Because you did, But I've

1039
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: seen Nope and I've seen get Out. But Us to

1040
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 2: me like pushed it to the next level. But you

1041
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: know what is true about us. I listened to the soundtrack.

1042
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: It's so funny that I got five on it, I

1043
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: got remix, I listened to it like all the time.

1044
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: It's that and single Soon. I kind of rotate between that,

1045
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: you know, depending on the vibe. But Love Get Out,

1046
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: Daniel Kluia like exploded into the mainstream. Alison Williams Resurgence,

1047
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Bradley Bedford and Catherine Keemer Keener Why

1048
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: did I say Keemer? But yeah, just like a really

1049
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: really important, incredible film.

1050
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: And then Ladybird.

1051
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: You know, it's just first of all a Staircia and

1052
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: Laurie Metcalf, that dynamics all amazing, And you'll never forget

1053
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: Lloyd Metcas's performance at the end when she drops her

1054
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: off at the airport and like can't be bothered to

1055
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 2: go in with her, and then she starts sobbing and

1056
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: circles the block and runs in and it's too late.

1057
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: Just like so great. Also, I love Lucas Hedges in this,

1058
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: Lucas Beanie all great.

1059
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: I'll never forget the moment when Lucas begs Sirsha not

1060
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: to tell anyone that he's gay, and the way he

1061
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: just broke down. It was one of those moments that

1062
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: I just like literally involuntarily like started to emotionally jumped

1063
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: out of my skin, and I'm like, gret is just

1064
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 2: She's just phenomenal. Yeah, she's just phenomenal.

1065
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 1: Other important movies I put down Wonder Woman, Mother The Post, Coco, Coco, Coco,

1066
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: Love Coco. Let's move on to music. I think I'm

1067
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: ready for it.

1068
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 2: Bound we didn't know what we were being given. Well, actually,

1069
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 2: you know what, should we be honest? Honesty zone.

1070
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: Let's be honesty z own. I'm ready to be honesty zone.

1071
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: And also can I say like this relates to my

1072
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey a little bit later, because

1073
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: we already talk about this little lady.

1074
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: But when look what you made me do came out,

1075
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: I did not get it at all. I didn't understand.

1076
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 2: And also, this was a period that was tough for Swifties,

1077
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: and I remember we were not necessarily diehards at this point.

1078
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: I think we were a little oversaturated with her post

1079
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine Imperial phase. The choices she were making

1080
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: in public I were a little questionable, and we were

1081
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: just a little bit, like certainly not better than the

1082
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: big conversation, than that conversation about her, and we fell

1083
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: off a bit. Look What You Made Me Do came

1084
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: out and I was like, what is going on here?

1085
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: And then the album came out? And what I feel

1086
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: like Once I heard the album, I was like, oh.

1087
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: Can we be honesty zone? Yeah? Once Gorgeous came out,

1088
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: I was in the closet. I felt like I was

1089
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: in the closet again because I thought, walk through this,

1090
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 1: no one can know that I love this song.

1091
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: Really.

1092
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: I loved Gorgeously, still do I will, but Gorgeous stamp

1093
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: but Gorgeous came out as a promotional single before the

1094
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: album came out. Ah, so it was, uh, look what

1095
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: you Made Me Do? I think it was ready for it?

1096
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: And then Gorgeous, Yeah, and ready for it. I was

1097
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 1: kind of like it was a banger from the jump

1098
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: I will That's That was a closet and moment for

1099
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: me too, because everyone's like, this fucking sucks. She's trying

1100
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: to do hip hop and I and I went, but wait,

1101
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: she pulled off this thing that, of course, on its

1102
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: face is going to be like laughable because it's like

1103
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift wrote a hip hop song, but like I

1104
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: remember at the time being like, this is kind of great.

1105
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: And then Gorgeous came out and I was like, Okay,

1106
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: she's just having fun being like flurry Little Girl again,

1107
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: which we haven't seen since, which wasn't even on nineteen

1108
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: eighty nine. I was like, maybe we haven't seen since.

1109
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say speak now, or like Red where she

1110
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: was just like coquettish, and it was like I like this,

1111
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: I like this tailor. And so then when the album

1112
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: came out, I remember someone, a journalist friend of ours,

1113
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, the Taylor album just leaped.

1114
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: It's so bad. Want me to send it to you.

1115
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: And I was like, at that point A already had

1116
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: it mm hmmm, and B was like, it's not bad. Well,

1117
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: first of all, I'm on record, I think it's her

1118
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 2: best album. It's my favorite album. First, I also think

1119
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: it's her most romantic album because it's all about the

1120
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: beginnings of Joe and the clinging onto a person while

1121
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: the rest of the while the rest of the world

1122
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: says they're done with you. And the depression that she

1123
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: was in we now know was so real and she

1124
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: genuinely thought it was over over, and she found someone

1125
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: who made her feel like a version of herself again,

1126
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: and that all went into the music and fight Me

1127
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,439
Speaker 2: Delicate is the best Taylor Swift song of all time. Wow,

1128
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: Delicate Not only is it the best track five, it's

1129
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: and I'm not even being hyperbolic, like Delicate in the

1130
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: concert is a moment for ever, for everyone to enjoy life.

1131
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: To enjoy life, Just enjoy life.

1132
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: And the entire reputation segment of the erast you can

1133
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 2: tell she fucking loves it. Oh my god when she

1134
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: stomps out there at the top. I said, let's go

1135
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: back in time to the year twenty seventeen. Let's go

1136
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: back and let's relive militant but secretly wounded and romantic

1137
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: tailor this Taylor on the offense but also privately like vulnerable.

1138
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: Huh. Come on, I'm gonna say that reputation is the

1139
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: piece of mainstream culture that has maybe aged the best

1140
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: from this year. I would agree with you. We're gonna

1141
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: get TV, We've looked at movies. There are other incredible

1142
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: albums we're going to talk about that we're also in

1143
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. But I think reputation thank God for it,

1144
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: because otherwise they would have been full rot. Do you

1145
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: know what, I just.

1146
01:00:50,000 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 2: Realized what reputation is so last Jedi coded ah, Oh

1147
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: my god, the impact of that statement. I don't understand

1148
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: what Wow, I know what you mean. I know what

1149
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: you mean. I know what you mean. But for you

1150
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: to connect those dots, my sister, this.

1151
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: Is a cultural excavation.

1152
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: Appolit sligh.

1153
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: I wish I could go back in time.

1154
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: I wish I had been seventeen and twenty seventeen so

1155
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: I could write an ap comp essay on this. I

1156
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: would body it. Missus Mahr would say, I know that's right.

1157
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: Let me press play, Let me press play. Let me

1158
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: give this paper a hundred.

1159
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: I will say. My weird Swifty wrinkle is that Endgame

1160
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite Taylor Swift songs. Endgame.

1161
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not up there for me, but I respect, love, worship,

1162
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: and enjoy the opinion. And I need to say this

1163
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: hugely underrated music video.

1164
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah really, Joseph Kahan. She's in Miami, Tokyo, London, and

1165
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: she is. This is one of the rare Taylor Swift

1166
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: videos where she is what having fun, having a good time.

1167
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: I think she's having fun a lot. But it's like

1168
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: this is pure, like her being like, Okay, look what

1169
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: you mean to do, not really necessarily having fun right,

1170
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: m delicate, She's kind of like in the Ring having

1171
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: fun and delicate, but there's there's a melancholy to it.

1172
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: Endgame is pure, like good vibes. I'm on a yacht

1173
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: in Miami. I'm riding on a fucking motorcycle with Future.

1174
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: I am getting drunk, getting fucking what a drunk people

1175
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 2: get in the UK like knackerd No, that means tired.

1176
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: What nackard means tired. I'm like smashed.

1177
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: They're getting smashed in the but like she's like having

1178
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: a great house party meet in London.

1179
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: She is eating ramen in a little jutle shop in Tokyo.

1180
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: She's playing Dance Dance Revolution with these Japanese girls she

1181
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: just met. I said, this is what I want out

1182
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: of a Taylor Swift song. Sometimes I'm so happy to

1183
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: see you so happy.

1184
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: I love ED because it makes me feel like I'm

1185
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: having fun. Can I also say In the re release

1186
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 2: of Reputation, a lot of people talk about like what

1187
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: song needs to have a moment get Away car, get

1188
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: get away car, get to My Heart and get away car. Okay,

1189
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: so listen, I'm gonna get personal here. No, no, are

1190
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 2: you about to King of my Heart meant something to

1191
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: me at one point. Now I've put it away. Get

1192
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: Away car is the truth because listen to me right now.

1193
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: Nothing good starts in a getaway car. Think about the

1194
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: place where you first met me. When they tell you

1195
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: when the red flags are there from the beginning. You

1196
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 2: are not better than that.

1197
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 1: When people show you who they are, believe.

1198
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 2: Them them first right away. Don't allow yourself to get

1199
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: in the getaway car. Is this her most my good

1200
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 2: starts in it? Getaway Car is Taylor Swift's most My

1201
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: Angelou song?

1202
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: And what ruler culture is that?

1203
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 2: Well, it's her Loto coature number twelve getaway cars.

1204
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: It's taylors my Angelou song. I Live to get away Car.

1205
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: You were jet Set Bonnie and Clyde. There is no

1206
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: more apt song than jet Set Bonnie and Clyde. Until

1207
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: you switch to the other side, to the other side,

1208
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: it's no surprise I turned you in because never win. Well,

1209
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: she's clearly never watched traders because they sometimes win.

1210
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: Can we side by for a second I Am almost

1211
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 2: through Australian traders by far the best version.

1212
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: That is a huge claim. It's the claim I'm making

1213
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: are shooting daggers at me? Bitch? Violent? Okay, violent wow,

1214
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: her violent album representation. The album was largely snuffed at

1215
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: the Grammys, except for her Best Pop Vocal Album nominations.

1216
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: We we saw that Mo and Miss American. Can you

1217
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: even believe this wasn't an Album of the Year nominee?

1218
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: It's so insane?

1219
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: Retrospective reviews opined that the initial reception was clouded by

1220
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: the negative press and describe the album as a work

1221
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: of experimentation and artistic evolution. For Sweat, some of her

1222
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: best lyrics.

1223
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 2: The melodies are sick yeah, even in Ready for It,

1224
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: which like in the middle of a night Magies, you

1225
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: should see the things.

1226
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: Wait, if you slow it down and play on a piano,

1227
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: it's like really pretty. Oh I love Ready for It. Okay,

1228
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: Record of the Year. So now let's get into the Grammys,

1229
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: because this is where you start to see the desiccated

1230
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: cultural landscape. Not to and this is not a drag

1231
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: on the artist that we're about to mention, but so

1232
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: what dominated the Grammys? Bruno Mars is nominated for six

1233
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: Grammys one all six. Yeah, Record of the Year, twenty

1234
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: four Carrot Manderic, Album of the Year, twenty four Carot

1235
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: Mandrix Song of the Year.

1236
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: That's what I like, Yeah, which these are not bad works.

1237
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: I actually happened to love that album. I love Bruno Mars,

1238
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 2: seen them live at excellent live performer, Yeah, like fantastic

1239
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: live performer. I do think when you start to look

1240
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: at best new artists, a historically flopped category that never

1241
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 2: gets it right or that rarely gets it right, we

1242
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: love this person. Yeah, but this was a she was

1243
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: nominated against Alessiya Kara one. I mean I think, looking back,

1244
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: that should have been Saysy's award. I have a feeling

1245
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: that I'll be rectified at this year's Grammys. I actually

1246
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: think she's.

1247
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: Winning album with that year. I have a hundred year Yeah, and.

1248
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 2: That would be SOS would be a very good win

1249
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 2: for that. But can I say about twenty four Carrot

1250
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: Magic and that's what I like by Bruno Mars, I

1251
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 2: feel like, are we going to be thinking about this

1252
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 2: song in years to come? No, but we're not bot

1253
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: mitzvah party motivators, right, and so I think if you're

1254
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: a bot mitzvah party motivator, this is a really important

1255
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 2: song of twenty four Carrot Magic but has step touch,

1256
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: clap clap. This gets the moms up, It gets the

1257
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: little girls up. But do the little girls care for

1258
01:06:59,160 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: Bruno Mars.

1259
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: I think they do. Like these jen alpha girls that

1260
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: are at that are at the bat mitzvahs.

1261
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: You have to remember the power of a wedding. Can't

1262
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: tell you what's not going anywhere in the monoculture wedding.

1263
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: But I'm saying the life cycle for a song that

1264
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: ends up being in the cannon of wedding music, wedding

1265
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: songs on the dance floor, it's a long cycle, like

1266
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: Shout Shout, was not that girl until like the nineties.

1267
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: I have a feelming we'll still hear twenty four Carrot Magic.

1268
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure we will, but I'm saying it's receding right

1269
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: now and then the year twenty twenty four, it's gonna

1270
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: make a roaring comeback at weddings at funerals.

1271
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: If you play twenty four Carrot Magic at my funeral,

1272
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 2: which is next week, by the way, no, I will

1273
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 2: kill you from the grave.

1274
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: Girl.

1275
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: If you played twenty four Carrot Magic at my funeral,

1276
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 2: which is next week. I Will kill you from the grave.

1277
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 2: Remember I said that, I remember it's on record now.

1278
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: I think twenty twenty eight, twenty nine is when this

1279
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: song is we kind of crown it, Okay. Other awards

1280
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: other top selling album mellow Drama by Lord, I.

1281
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: Think Melodrama Dan by Kendrick Lamart reputation or are the

1282
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: three oh I'm sorry control Absolutely are the these four

1283
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: albums that are like in the vault of the year,

1284
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: but also the year overall for music was also a

1285
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: little huh. Like in a good year for music, there

1286
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: are we can say like ten albums that are like huge.

1287
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 1: But Melodrama what an album? Yeah, the maybe the best

1288
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: sophomore album of a pop girly in.

1289
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 2: The last, Teenage Dream is found absolutely teen years drowned

1290
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 2: and left in the water.

1291
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: I think Breakaway has is hurting right now. I said

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Speaker 1: fifteen years you did so that I think teenage Dream

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: makes the cutoff, but I would say Melodrama and teenage

1294
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 1: dreamer on similar echelons.

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Speaker 2: Think about how I have to listen better? Thinking about

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01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 2: thinking about how I have to listen a little better.

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Speaker 1: A little better sometime.

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01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: Damn I Kendrick Lamar. This was three albums in a

1299
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: row of like Wow, of like Good Kid, Mad City,

1300
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 2: to Pimp a Butterfly, and Dan like this is like

1301
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:26,560
Speaker 2: we need Kendrick.

1302
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: Back in a big way. Say it, don't spray, I'm

1303
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: not spraying, and control obviously. I mean, this was the

1304
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: album that I think really broke her through. I think

1305
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,879
Speaker 1: this is the album that made me say not cultures

1306
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: for me. But I said, she is our generations. Joni Mitchell,

1307
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of.

1308
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 2: You've been saying that this deeply confessional, like out pouring

1309
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 2: from the fucking heart in a way that's different from

1310
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: Taylor in a way that's like this is raw and

1311
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: this is like what is on the page.

1312
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 1: When you told her that and she goes to you,

1313
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: oh so you like me? I was like, yeah, oh

1314
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,560
Speaker 1: so you like me? You like me?

1315
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 2: This is And then I said that.

1316
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 1: She was like that's so nice, and she was like,

1317
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: I really don't know how people feel about my music.

1318
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: I was like, really, She goes, I don't leave the house.

1319
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 2: Oh wow. But I think I think that was before

1320
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 2: the album came out, and now since then, since SOS,

1321
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 2: I mean since SOS I think she's she's out here celebrating.

1322
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 2: I mean, all she had to do is look out

1323
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 2: at that crowd we were in in Madison Square Garden

1324
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: and feel the love. And then she came back out.

1325
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: That was so cute. I love her. I love her too.

1326
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: I love her okay, and then after laughter, hugely underrated

1327
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: Paramore album Rainbow by Kesha, Praying Praying.

1328
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 2: I'm that note.

1329
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: That note will be remembered. We'll be remembered.

1330
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: Maybe not reproduced. I don't think I ever reproduced, but

1331
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: we love Kesha, but it was certainly produced. It was

1332
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 2: certainly produced. Lust for Life Lenald Delray, Oh, this was

1333
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 2: an interesting there's some okay, So these were number one hits.

1334
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 2: Desposito sixteen weeks in number one one.

1335
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: That's insane. Shape of you? Can I tell you something?

1336
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: I fox with shape of you?

1337
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean love with the same of you. Depends on

1338
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: the mood. I'm always in the mood.

1339
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: Okay. It's not single soon, but you know rock Star

1340
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: by Post Malone, Bodak, Yellow Bike.

1341
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 1: Let's talk about body Card to b that was huge.

1342
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 2: I go to dinner and steak. Only the real can relate.

1343
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I'm leaving the podcast, I go to

1344
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 2: dinner and steak. Only the reel can relate. If you're

1345
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 2: eating a steak dinner, you're real. You ate you're If

1346
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 2: you go to dinner and steak, you're the real one.

1347
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: Only the real can relate. If you go to dinner

1348
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: and steak, you're eating dinner.

1349
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

1350
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: This is well? I mean a star making thing in

1351
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: a way that we will look back on. Card more

1352
01:11:58,360 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: fun Now.

1353
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: This is well? Well, I do love, be careful, careful

1354
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 2: of me. I do love be careful, But Bodak Yellow

1355
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,919
Speaker 2: is up there for me. I mean this is a legendary.

1356
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 2: This is like a signature forever track. Yeah, And she says,

1357
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: to this day, she's like she was asked, what's your

1358
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: favorite songs to performance? She's like, the way people act

1359
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 2: during bodac Yellow makes me so happy. The way people

1360
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: act when it's played out of space, people are at

1361
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: a frenzy.

1362
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I lose control? What else? Look what

1363
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: you made me do?

1364
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 2: Three Weeks and Number one Perfect by Ed Sheeran and Beyonce,

1365
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 2: Starboy by the Weekend, Humble by Kendrick Lamar And That's

1366
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 2: what I Like by Bruna Mars an interesting year moving

1367
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 2: into television. Emmy for Outstating Drama, The Handmaid's Tale first

1368
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 2: streaming show to win Outstating Drama. I watched a lot

1369
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 2: of the first season of Handmaid's Tale was one of

1370
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 2: the most devastating periods of I think my life sitting

1371
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 2: for any minute of that show.

1372
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1373
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: But Elizabeth Moss talented.

1374
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: Girl, talent hallented girl. Emmy for out Stating Comedy Veep

1375
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: third consecutive year. Absolutely May for Outstanding Limited Series Big

1376
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: Little Lies.

1377
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 2: We all remember where we were that finale of Big

1378
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 2: Little Lives. You came over to my apartment with Dave.

1379
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we watched it. We were to say

1380
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: we were entertained, satiated, moved, floored, renewed. Oh when those

1381
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 2: women came together to push Alexander Scar's guard down the steps.

1382
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: When Zoe pushed absolutely give her the credit. Give her

1383
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: the credit.

1384
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,799
Speaker 2: She really put her foot down and said, I'm putting

1385
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: my weight behind behind me, and my weight is in

1386
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 2: the pussy. Honestly, Nicole. One of her best performances I

1387
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: Robin Wigert, one of her best Robin Wigert, Laura d

1388
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 2: to do Last Jedi end Big Little Lies she destroyed

1389
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: this year.

1390
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: That was the Diurnaissance. That was definitely the beginning of

1391
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: dinaissance that culminated in the Oscar.

1392
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 2: I also think this was huge for Oh yeah, this

1393
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 2: made Reese like like she always was, But like, I

1394
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 2: love this reach with this performance because I think there's

1395
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 2: something so true about it. Yes, like I think there's

1396
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: something so I love when she plays a little vicious, yes,

1397
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 2: like it's election.

1398
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. I love it.

1399
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 2: And this is why you need to shut up when

1400
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 2: you say that she shouldn't have been in Gone Girl.

1401
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 2: I'm not over you guys doing this to me.

1402
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: We need to stop talking about Gone Girl.

1403
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: No good.

1404
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: Nothing good starts in a Gone Girl conversation here, that's

1405
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: a tailor lyric. These girls are still mad that I

1406
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: fucking hate Rosamond Big Little Lies. You know I do.

1407
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: You don't hate ro hater.

1408
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: I'm just like she doesn't.

1409
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't care, and we all have the right to

1410
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: not care about someone. Okay, Emmy for Outstanding TV Movie.

1411
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: Interesting that this was. I didn't realize it was position

1412
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: this way, but the Sandra Nuperry episode of Black Mirror

1413
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: wan Best TV Movie. Mm. Yeah, they singled down an

1414
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: episode of a season of Black Mirror.

1415
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, cause I think that that's how they categorize

1416
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: that as opposed to limited series. Yeah, because I think

1417
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: that the Black Mirror things are isolated. Oh I see, Ice.

1418
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,959
Speaker 2: I think that's why it has the title San Junaparo

1419
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: is because it's an isolated It's like a black mirror

1420
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 2: of production, icee Ic. I.

1421
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm well, I don't know whose who the fuck knows?

1422
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 1: This was I think also the year that streamers finally

1423
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: took home trophies MS. Yeah, like it started with like

1424
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: how's your House of Cards or Orangers and New Blacks.

1425
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: But this was the first year twenty seventeen where now

1426
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,560
Speaker 1: it feels like so normal. But it's like this was

1427
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: the first year where Hollywood was like, oh, okay, I

1428
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: guess the Hulus and the Netflixes and these other things

1429
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: are and it was back then it was just maybe

1430
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: it was mainly those two, but it was like the

1431
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: first year Hollywood it was like, I guess we can

1432
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: like pump all this money and resources into the streaming

1433
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: shows we care about awards, which of course they do. Yeah,

1434
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: these can take home the gold.

1435
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1436
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: Oh, Girls, Air series finale Okay, so I couldn't find

1437
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: too many big premieres.

1438
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 2: Big mouth Glow, Feud, Betty and Joan. That's I guess

1439
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 2: relevant because there's finally a new season of Feud coming.

1440
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 2: I'm so excited, and the good fight began. Girls aired

1441
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: a series finale.

1442
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: What a moment.

1443
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 2: What a moment I mean, I think the penultimate episode

1444
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 2: of Girls is one of my favorite episodes of Girls.

1445
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: And then the series finale. I love the finale. I

1446
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: didn't like it. I loved the final shot. Sure of

1447
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: the latch.

1448
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually really funny when you think about it's

1449
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: as a the final shot in the first shot. Yeah, yeah,

1450
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm a growing girl, I'm a growing girt where she's

1451
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 2: she's eating.

1452
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: Wow. The final shot is the baby, I know. I

1453
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: guess like it was, you know what.

1454
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 2: I appreciate the swing. I was just like, ugh, I

1455
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 2: never want anyone moving to the suburbs. That's there is Like,

1456
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: I know, there's something so.

1457
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: Something, there's something unsettling about seeing Hannah and Marnie together

1458
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: in a house like all the way right outside the city,

1459
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: Like there's something that should be disorienting, the fact that

1460
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: Marnie never changes. I love Arnie is one of our

1461
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: great the characters.

1462
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 2: We've said at a million times, Marnie is such a

1463
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 2: true character from your twenties. Yes, that's awesome about that,

1464
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 2: Like Marnie is so that girl and she'll always be

1465
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 2: and you all and we all know a Marnie.

1466
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1467
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 2: And also the fact that they're like not friends at

1468
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 2: the end of their twenties is sad but also very true,

1469
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And it feels like they're

1470
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: only the real can relate. Yeah, Lena Euastick, you went

1471
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 2: to dinner in State and you went to dinner Stick.

1472
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 2: We talked about the deaths.

1473
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: Trump is inaugurated. He begins his first term with the

1474
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: travel Man horrible. This was the year of like of course,

1475
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:42,799
Speaker 1: like first Army, you know, his staff turnovers really wild.

1476
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: This was the year that like Scaramouchi happened. I wrote

1477
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: down remember that whole thing.

1478
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: Honestly, there's been so much bullshit turnover with the scandals

1479
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 2: of Trump that I barely even remember Scar. Like these

1480
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 2: words are like buzzwords to me, Like Scarrawochi is like

1481
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: a buzzword to me.

1482
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 5: But I'm like, oh, it's just so oh triggering, and

1483
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 5: like yeah, like I can't believe Russian investigation, North Korea,

1484
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 5: US pulling out at the Paris Climate Agreement to find

1485
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 5: the rest of the year politically me too happens enters

1486
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 5: its full swing by the next year and the awards.

1487
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was when I remember being on Twitter at

1488
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 2: this time, and well, it's interesting because I went through

1489
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: something in two thousand and nine that I didn't realize

1490
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 2: actually happened to me until twenty seventeen, because I remember

1491
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: I think this was the case with a lot of people,

1492
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: like seeing those stories shared like triggered something in me

1493
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: that like actually like awoke a memory. And so it's

1494
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: interesting again that we picked this year out because it's

1495
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 2: like two thousand and nine was when it happened and

1496
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen because I had literally blacked it out and

1497
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:55,799
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen is when it came back. And what triggered

1498
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 2: the memory was someone was saying in an account of

1499
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: being like trapped in a location with someone that they trusted. Yeah,

1500
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 2: and that was like, where have I heard that before?

1501
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: And then I realized that was my experience. Without getting

1502
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: into it too much, but I do also want to

1503
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 2: say because I think because this is something from this year.

1504
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: I think this is really important to say.

1505
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 2: Last night I landed back in New York and I

1506
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 2: was thinking about this episode because I was reading the

1507
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 2: document that you made and I saw this part of.

1508
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: It, and I literally even thought about, like I thought for.

1509
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: A second about like expanding on what I talked about

1510
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 2: for the two thousand and nine year and I realized

1511
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 2: how scared I was to even talk about it at

1512
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: the time now now, because I am so unsure that

1513
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 2: the person who was responsible for that would not like

1514
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 2: come after me in some way because they have Like

1515
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 2: I remember, yeah, I shared this on another podcast and

1516
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,560
Speaker 2: it got back to the person and I had to

1517
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 2: name the person.

1518
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: I didn't go on about it, but right, so, why

1519
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,799
Speaker 1: would they ever fucking feel like a victim in this situation?

1520
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 2: Well, they attacked me repeatedly over the phone online, And

1521
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 2: also I just want to say, like, if you have

1522
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 2: respect for me, and like you're not gonna like try

1523
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: to find it and unearth it like this podcast or whatever.

1524
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 2: Like I don't like I'm saying, it's like just like

1525
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: let's leave it alone. But what I think is really

1526
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: important is the fact that like years later, fifteen years later,

1527
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm still unsure about and scared to even go there

1528
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 2: because you're thinking about that, because I'm thinking about retribution

1529
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 2: from someone who literally doesn't really matter, And so I

1530
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 2: want people to really think about that in context of

1531
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 2: how difficult it is for some of these people for

1532
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,600
Speaker 2: anyone to come forward to expand on something like this,

1533
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 2: especially when there are still power dynamics that played, because

1534
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,879
Speaker 2: I'm talking about something where there is no power dynamic

1535
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: at play. I'm talking about something where I don't even

1536
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 2: wish this person ill. I don't think they're a bad person.

1537
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 2: I think we were in a situation where boundaries were violated,

1538
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: and I think you're still protecting them, and because I'm afraid,

1539
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 2: because I don't want to deal with it. But what

1540
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: I want to say is that I think it's really

1541
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 2: important to acknowledge my fear in even getting into it,

1542
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: and say that that fear is so real for everyone,

1543
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 2: and it endures and it doesn't go away, and it

1544
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 2: takes a really long time to figure out how you

1545
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 2: feel about it, to even really confirm that it even happened.

1546
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: Because a big part of that realization and that trigger

1547
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 2: was me going back and forth with myself that can

1548
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 2: have happened, that can have happened. I have to be

1549
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 2: making it up.

1550
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: I have to be exaggerating it. I have to be wrong.

1551
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 2: I'm not wrong. I'm not exaggerating. It did happen, and

1552
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: it affected me for a really long time, and there

1553
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 2: is still an element of fear and discomfort and insecurity

1554
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: that comes with getting into it, because I still fear

1555
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 2: like retaliation, and I also fear honestly hurting that person.

1556
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 2: And I just want to put that out there as

1557
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 2: a thing that is a byproduct of this whole very

1558
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: important movement. Is that that insecurity and that like hesitancy

1559
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 2: to put yourself out there and get behind something like this,

1560
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 2: even if you were really really really changed and really hurt,

1561
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 2: still remains the same. So that's I guess the way

1562
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: I want to that's my pull when it comes to

1563
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 2: this topic coming up on the podcast.

1564
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was a very exposed moment in

1565
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: so many ways, but in terms of the nervous system,

1566
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: of the coctive nervous system was so raw, and.

1567
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 2: Prince Harry and Megan Mark got engaged that year, So

1568
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: that was amazing.

1569
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh God, I means Charlottesville. Colin Kaepernick, who started kneeling

1570
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, but then by twenty seventeen it was

1571
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:22,799
Speaker 1: more quote unquote widely engaged with by other NFL players.

1572
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't that many, and it was I mean, remember

1573
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: all that, like, this was a pretty hopeless year.

1574
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 2: This is a this is not a I remember the

1575
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 2: year ending, and it was one of those years where

1576
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: it was like, twenty eighteen, it's gonna be better, Oh,

1577
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 2: like it has to be.

1578
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: Oh god, this was a dark year. This is not

1579
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: a good year.

1580
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: But you know, in the positives, this was the year

1581
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: we did our first full year of Lost Culture. Yes,

1582
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 2: I know twenty sixteen was the first year, but it

1583
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 2: feels like twenty seventeen was kind of the first year

1584
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 2: because this is the when the podcast really got in

1585
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: full swing. We did our first I don't Think so

1586
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 2: Honey Live, which I think is when we realized we

1587
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 2: had something going.

1588
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: Uh huh, March twenty first, twenty seventeen, and that was

1589
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: like about the year anniversary of the podcast itself. Yeah, yes,

1590
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: a nice little marker there. We closed out the year

1591
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:08,919
Speaker 1: with Cultu War.

1592
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 2: Which was an I don't Think So Honey competition where

1593
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 2: Bowen and I both had teams yes, I was the

1594
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 2: team of fire.

1595
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: You were the team of ice. Annie Donnelly came and said, look,

1596
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 1: I will never I left my body when Annie Donley

1597
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: was walked down the this.

1598
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 2: Like high drag. Look it was amazing. She and Michelle

1599
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: Collins had tension between them.

1600
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,560
Speaker 1: The Cult War was won by Pat Reagan. Was this

1601
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: the birth of these young girls?

1602
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 2: Or no?

1603
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 1: That was podcast?

1604
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 2: These young girls? Was?

1605
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey live I did the first

1606
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: one of these young girls.

1607
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 2: Name was someone to he like pulled out. I was like,

1608
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: I booked. Oh my god, these young girls easy young.

1609
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: I forget what he did to win.

1610
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 2: But Pat Reagan was the winner of culture war, was

1611
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: the winner, and he's the winner of our hearts? Was it?

1612
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 4: Oh?

1613
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 2: No, Rachel Pigrim one, wait no, rachelm I believe Pat

1614
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: Reagan won culture And we're not rewriting history. Pat Reagan

1615
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 2: did when cultu war. Yes, you read Rachel Peagrim's fantastic

1616
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 2: comedian Francisco clusterst Yes, Oh my god. Wow remember the

1617
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 2: era of competitive I don't think so hard, but this

1618
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 2: has taught me a valuable lesson that I still haven't

1619
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 2: forgotten to this day. Like competition frameworks really upset people.

1620
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: M hmm. They're really emotional. People get truly hurt for

1621
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 1: a good reason if they lose something. Even though you

1622
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 1: think that the tone of it is frivolous and fun

1623
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: and like it's we're not taking it too seriously. No,

1624
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: if there's any element of competitiveness, it is devastating. If

1625
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: you're not, I'll.

1626
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 2: Never forget some of the faces of the people that lost, like, yeah,

1627
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 2: it did not feel good.

1628
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,560
Speaker 1: It did not feel good. I don't want to recreate that.

1629
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 1: Never again.

1630
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: They're never again doing something competitive ever ever, except for

1631
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 2: dueling star shows star Starfall Racer, Starfall Racer, but that

1632
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 2: will be a scripted feature film.

1633
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna pitch it. I have a movie idea,

1634
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 1: but not not for Starfall Racers. Well, don't say it

1635
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: on Mike thought' steal it. No, I know I have

1636
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: a new idea. Our producer beck and just nodded, like

1637
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: to ourself. She was like, yeah, I shouldn't say it.

1638
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So that is twenty seventeen. So yeah, not excavated. Excavated?

1639
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 2: Am I did I? You did amazing? No, but I'm saying,

1640
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 2: did I fuck this? From the get go in terms

1641
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 2: of like the attitude of the year. This was a no,

1642
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 2: this was a ranscid year. This was not a good year.

1643
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 2: But there were cultural high points that we remember fondly.

1644
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: But I think the only high point I remember fondly besides,

1645
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 1: like even the art was dark. Last Jedi reputation, right,

1646
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: But I'm like Ladybird love Phantom Thread, love love love love.

1647
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: Reputation was the redeeming. Reputation was the thing that saved

1648
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: us me at least. So there's that Zo, don't blame

1649
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:05,799
Speaker 1: me alone.

1650
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: May be crazy if it doesn't you Jo when it ride,

1651
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: it's time. Oh by the way, Okay, So I did

1652
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 2: not travel with the Goblet of Cultural Years because it's

1653
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 2: too heavy. It's a real goblet. There's a nasty rumor

1654
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 2: out there that it's an ice bucket. It's actually a

1655
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 2: centuries old, thousand pound goblet that has been in my

1656
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 2: apartment for centuries, and it had the years written into it.

1657
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 2: It actually already had them for a century. And so

1658
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,560
Speaker 2: before I left, I did pick a year out of

1659
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 2: the bowl. And I haven't told my sister what it is.

1660
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 2: I am ready to reveal at this time that not

1661
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 2: next week. With the week after because we have a

1662
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 2: guest next week. The year we will cultural excavate is

1663
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 2: oh my god, Oh my god, nineteen ninety three, nineteen

1664
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 2: ninety three, Jurassic Park.

1665
01:27:55,560 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 1: Yes, Eastlet New Blar, going to Eastland, New Blar. Wow,

1666
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: that is coming up.

1667
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 2: That is a good year. It's a really good leader

1668
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 2: and this and not too much personal experience to drat

1669
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 2: them because we were but toddlers. Well, I have some

1670
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: things we could expand on some of my first memories

1671
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 2: to begin to absolutely.

1672
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: Remember where we were. Kind of okay, so it's time

1673
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,799
Speaker 1: for I don't think so, honey. This is our segment

1674
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 1: where we take one minute to really get something in culture.

1675
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: Do you have something, mat? Oh? Yeah, okay, this is

1676
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many as time starts.

1677
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. People who criticize Taylor Swift

1678
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 2: for the carbon emissions of her private jet, I want

1679
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: you to really think this through. So what do you

1680
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 2: want her to fly commercial? Do you want Taylor Swift

1681
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 2: to show up at the airport on the day where

1682
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: you're traveling. I don't think so, honey, that you do,

1683
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 2: because that would be a safety issue for her and

1684
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 2: for all, we have not created a society that is

1685
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 2: responsible enough or safe enough for her to what fly commercial?

1686
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 2: You think that she can sit in Delta one, everyone

1687
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 2: past her and it be a safe atmosphere. She has

1688
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 2: to fly private, y'all, so that she can help the

1689
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 2: economy in such a way. And before you get into

1690
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 2: it about ah, they're a second fash. She never does

1691
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 2: anything wrong. Shut the fuck up, think about think one

1692
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 2: step ahead of your argument. Yes, it's funny to point

1693
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 2: to the sky and see a plane and say, ooh,

1694
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. Make your jokes, but don't actually drag her

1695
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,480
Speaker 2: for flying private because you don't want to fly in commercial.

1696
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. That's one minute. The thing

1697
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 1: about carbon emissions from private planes is that overall the footprint,

1698
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:50,600
Speaker 1: while not negligible, is also like not big enough for

1699
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: people to get too riled up about. Well, that's not

1700
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 1: what happens.

1701
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 2: What do you mean, because they do get riled No,

1702
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 2: of course, I'm saying like there are unwarranted There are

1703
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 2: climate scientists who have come out and been like, it's

1704
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 2: not the thing to be mad about. It's bad, it's

1705
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 2: not great, but it's not the thing that like it's

1706
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 2: not a thing to necessarily crucify, not that we're doing that,

1707
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 2: not that anyone's doing that, but it's like there are

1708
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 2: huger fish to fry.

1709
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: What would happen if she showed up to Delta? What

1710
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 1: would happen if you were at Hudson News buying a

1711
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: pack of gum and thousands of people fucking descended on

1712
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: the magazine rap because Taylor wanted to pick up a

1713
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 1: copy of US Weekly? Would she's wont to do? You

1714
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: would hate your fucking life. You would say, get on

1715
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: the PJ. I don't go to Turturbuo.

1716
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 2: I don't want this. And even if she were to

1717
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 2: like buy out a plane, it would be a problem,

1718
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1719
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 1: Like there is literally no winning in the situation.

1720
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 2: I get it, Like when a celebrity is in a

1721
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 2: certain place, like and they're really high, it's the instinct

1722
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 2: to want to tear them down and find something. This

1723
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 2: can't really be the thing because she has to travel,

1724
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 2: and she has to do it in a way that's

1725
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 2: gonna be like sustainable and safe for not just her

1726
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 2: but everyone. And you see the fervor and the fandom

1727
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 2: around her to the point where like she cannot live

1728
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 2: a normal life, so how is she supposed to travel

1729
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 2: in a normal fashion? It just doesn't make any sense.

1730
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 2: And the reason I say this is because there's all

1731
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 2: this hell of balloo about is she gonna travel back

1732
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 2: from Tokyo to go to the super Bowl, which, yeah,

1733
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 2: she is.

1734
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: She's not gonna miss the super Bowl. I really don't

1735
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: think she's Travis's good luck term.

1736
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:41,799
Speaker 2: And someone was like, well, that jet's gonna be jetting,

1737
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yet it is because she can't get

1738
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 2: on a plane like you and I. There's no direct

1739
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 2: flight from Tokyo to Vegas. Okay, can you imagine tailor

1740
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 2: stuff's in a commercial layover? I mean, yeah, Tokyo to

1741
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 2: lax To to Vegas, tail her stuff. I'm the Lax

1742
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 2: to Vegas. You are making me laugh. You are making

1743
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 2: me laugh thinking about Taylor Swift on the Lax to Vegas.

1744
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny. I'm laughing.

1745
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 2: I'm laughing.

1746
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:12,799
Speaker 1: I just think it's so silly.

1747
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 2: It's just like, Wow, we're so excited to get a

1748
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 2: tweet out there, We're so excited to post a story

1749
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 2: that we don't even really realize how dumb we sound.

1750
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 2: Like if she were to show up at the airport,

1751
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 2: it would be pandemoniusa.

1752
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,719
Speaker 1: For me, it just comes down to, like, I'm gonna

1753
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 1: defer to the experts, and the experts are saying it's

1754
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 1: not the thing. Yes it's there's a footprint, but it's

1755
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 1: not the giant fucking big Foot album cover. Sorry to

1756
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 1: bring it up again, It's not like that level. Yeah,

1757
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: you know. I just think it's just funny the way

1758
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 1: that people work themselves up and like get so.

1759
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 2: Excited to have something to say, and meanwhile it's like, yeah,

1760
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 2: but if you use a critical thinking, if you use

1761
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 2: critical thinking for even two seconds, you can get to

1762
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,879
Speaker 2: this next conclusion. What do you want not Matt invoking

1763
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 2: critical thinking. I'm telling you I should really be an

1764
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 2: ap comp again. Missus Marr would be like, I just

1765
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 2: think he went to dinner in steak. He went to

1766
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 2: dinner in stake. This is not I'm not calling my

1767
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,560
Speaker 2: sister out because you never do this, you rarely do this.

1768
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: But red giant, red flag when someone oh, because Anna

1769
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 1: Marie does this calls them identify so strongly as a

1770
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: critical thinker in an argument. Oh yeah, Like, don't say that.

1771
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 1: You don't have to fucking say that. Well, she's literally not.

1772
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 1: It's just embarrassing.

1773
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 2: She's she's full fucking flop. I just actually talked to

1774
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 2: a medical professional the other day, like an actual doctor,

1775
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 2: uh huh, And I was like, are you up on

1776
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 2: the Anna Marie stuff on Beverly Hills And she was like,

1777
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's so humiliating. She's like because the thing

1778
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 2: a like anesthesiologist and CRNA is like that there is

1779
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 2: real tension there.

1780
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:01,600
Speaker 1: Ure she's so attached to this identity and she's weaponizing

1781
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 1: it against someone's like actual, actual medical condition, actual medical condition,

1782
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: and she's like truly gaslighting Crystal in a lot of

1783
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 1: instances and being fucking menacing. I'm just like, girl, lay off,

1784
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:16,679
Speaker 1: you're not coming back.

1785
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, we have a very close friend

1786
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 2: who literally has what Sutton has and it is a

1787
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 2: real thing and it is not diet related, it is

1788
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 2: not lifestyle related.

1789
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: It is a thing that is.

1790
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:31,440
Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous.

1791
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 1: And and Nicole Martin in the best way where it's

1792
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 1: like to stoop to that level as a medical professional

1793
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: is so fucking crazy.

1794
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, what I hated about Beverly Hills

1795
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 2: this last episode was Crystal's going for Anna Marie and

1796
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 2: going FORO Marie and going for Ana Marie, and then

1797
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 2: like nearly dies on a mountain, and now she's at

1798
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 2: her mercy.

1799
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 1: And it's like Crystal cannot catch a fucking break, she cannot.

1800
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 2: Catch a fucking brick because at the end of the day,

1801
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 2: like even if she is right about this whole thing,

1802
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 2: she went and almost died on the mountain. And then

1803
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 2: now she's like at her mercy, like holding her hand

1804
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 2: in the car like, and Anna Maria.

1805
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 1: Gets to look like the hero in this situation. There's

1806
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: a kind of poetry to it.

1807
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 2: Well, the valor is.

1808
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 1: Not stolen, but it is like miss misbegotten. That's all.

1809
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 1: It's just funny.

1810
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I have are you ready?

1811
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:27,640
Speaker 1: I do so.

1812
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 2: I'm so thrilled because this is Bowen Yang's I don't

1813
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 2: think so, honey. And let me tell you something. His

1814
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 2: time starts now, I don't think so, honey.

1815
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 1: Let's leave Martin Short Meryl Streep alone and let them

1816
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 1: enjoy their lives. Let's not probe too much about what

1817
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: it is, what the nature of it is. I think

1818
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 1: these are two people who, if they are romantically linked,

1819
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 1: deserve each other they are two of our great American treasures,

1820
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 1: and I think we should just let them be. They

1821
01:35:55,840 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 1: have both suffered loss, and they have both gone through deep,

1822
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:05,719
Speaker 1: deep romantic tumult, and I think they should. They deserve

1823
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 1: each other and let's leave them alone. There's a lot

1824
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: of rumors flying. I think we should just let them.

1825
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 1: If they're fucking, let them fuck. If they're being friends,

1826
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: let them be friends. We're kind of trying to excavate

1827
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 1: something a little too aggressively, and I think that's okay.

1828
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 1: We can't blame ourselves for that. But we also have

1829
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 1: to leave them alone. These are really, really beautiful people.

1830
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: We love their work so much. We have an emotion

1831
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,839
Speaker 1: parasocial connection to them. But we have to leave it alone.

1832
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 1: We have to let them be them.

1833
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm you really left them alone there.

1834
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 2: I know I'm being ironically, I know I'm a slaved

1835
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 2: when you left them alone just there.

1836
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 1: This is the only thing I'll say. I know I'm

1837
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: not leaving them alone by bringing this up, but I'm saying,

1838
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 1: let's let them be. They're so obviously together. Two.

1839
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:52,600
Speaker 2: It's so funny because it's like, no, we're just we

1840
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 2: just are just very good friends and it's like, yeah,

1841
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 2: that's what you say, but that's fine, let's leave Let's.

1842
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 1: Leave it at that. I love it.

1843
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 2: I think that is confirmation enough. Love it, love it

1844
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 2: for them whatever. It is, very good friends, fuck buddies.

1845
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 2: But if they had released the statement that were like,

1846
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 2: we are not together, but we are fuck buddies, I

1847
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 2: would say on Tuesday nights, we watched vander Pump and

1848
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 2: we fuck, I would be so happy. Here's the truth

1849
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 2: and this is a joint statement. Meryl Streve and Martin

1850
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 2: Short have been friends for years. During the production of

1851
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 2: Only Murders Season three, they decided to become fuck Buddies

1852
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:33,919
Speaker 2: and vander Pump.

1853
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: Rules co viewers all viewers.

1854
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 2: Meryl has a huge television as you can imagine, she's

1855
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:42,719
Speaker 2: an empty nester.

1856
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 1: The kids are grown Mary and on the Gilded Age.

1857
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 2: So Marty comes over and they have sex in two

1858
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 2: to three positions for fifteen to twenty minutes. They are

1859
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 2: FWB's and some of the bees are vander Pump. They

1860
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 2: do this before vander Pump. So they fuck order Goop

1861
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 2: Kitchen and they watched vander Pump Rules. Post nut clarity.

1862
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 1: They're watching vander Pump rules and having the right takes

1863
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 1: because they are what empty mind shit, They're on their

1864
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 1: empty mind shit.

1865
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 2: They both get the Kariokee bully and are excited about

1866
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 2: La La Kent's journey this season every season Team Marianna.

1867
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 1: Of course, they're gonna see her in Chicago. They're gonna

1868
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 1: see her in Chicago. And guess what. They never liked

1869
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 1: sandal Ball.

1870
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 2: They were always on the right side. They were always

1871
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 2: on the right side. They always called her a Rachel,

1872
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 2: they always damed her.

1873
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 1: Was this one of the best episodes? This was one

1874
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 1: of the best episodes. Becca is literally waving.

1875
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 2: She just went like this, Becca, just telling you this.

1876
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 2: Yeah she did it, but she did something else. She's

1877
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 2: really excited about the quality of this episode.

1878
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 1: As am I.

1879
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 2: If you think we weren't being real on this episode,

1880
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 2: you you must be fooling. You're a trader.

1881
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:03,719
Speaker 1: You're a trader.

1882
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 2: You're a fucking trader. Now you're a fucking trader. You're

1883
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 2: the biggest fucking trader here. Now you're a trader. Bitch,

1884
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 2: Santra versus Janelley table. Can we play this very important

1885
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:16,639
Speaker 2: cameo that you dug out.

1886
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 1: From years ago?

1887
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so I wanted to congratulate Bowen on getting cast

1888
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 2: on Saturday Night Live years ago and at the time,

1889
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:29,600
Speaker 2: Sandra Diaz Twine was on Cameo Baby, and this is

1890
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 2: going to be played in lieu.

1891
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 1: Of the song this week. Yes, we end every episode

1892
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 1: with a song, but not this week.

1893
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 4: Hey Bowen, it's your girl, Sassy, Sandra the Queen, and

1894
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 4: this shout out is for you from Matt. He wanted

1895
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:43,480
Speaker 4: me to put a smile.

1896
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 2: On your face today.

1897
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 4: Brighten up your speirarits actually you guys put a smile

1898
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 4: on my face and brightened up my Thank you so

1899
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 4: much for being huge survivor fan, and Bowen, thank you

1900
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 4: for having faith in me, cheering me on esk for

1901
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 4: me every single time that I've p especially during winners

1902
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 4: at War. You know, it wasn't easy to go out

1903
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 4: there after idols of the idols, you know, I had

1904
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:08,799
Speaker 4: to spend thirty six.

1905
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 2: Days already in Fiji, and then my.

1906
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,679
Speaker 4: Twenty four foot total was still out there.

1907
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 1: For allers to see.

1908
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:19,440
Speaker 2: They were not amused.

1909
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 4: My target was already big, you know, like I had

1910
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 4: the biggest target on my back being that I was

1911
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 4: the only two time winner.

1912
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 1: And then the totem did not, but it is what

1913
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 1: it is.

1914
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 4: But Bowen, Matt, thank you guys for being there for

1915
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 4: Survival week after week, season after season, year after year.

1916
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 4: Bow and I especially want to congratulate you on being

1917
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 4: a cast member of Saturday Night Live and of course

1918
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:52,639
Speaker 4: for completing your first season. And I'm sure your legacy

1919
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,719
Speaker 4: on Saturday Night Live will be like mine on Survivor

1920
01:40:56,760 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 4: right now seventeen years later, to still be a part

1921
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 4: of the show.

1922
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 1: And that's what I wish for you.

1923
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 4: That you will be there season after season and year

1924
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 4: after year so.

1925
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 1: That we can all watch you at work.

1926
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 4: And you, guys, take care of yourselves, Okay, Queen stays

1927
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 4: Queen Adios, Bye bye,