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Speaker 1: Ninni Leeks and Carlos King are going on tour, starting

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Speaker 1: with a two city stop in February. On Tuesday, February

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth, we are headed to Rally, North Carolina. On Thursday,

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Speaker 1: February twenty sixth, we are headed to Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Tickets are on sale now, make sure you get them

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Speaker 2: before they sell out. See you there.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows, from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from The

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain drops on today's episode of

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think that this is.

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Speaker 1: The century or the decade of my vindication because I've

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Speaker 1: been saying for years that Meriton Medicine is the best

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Speaker 1: showing Bravo that y'all not watching. I said that years ago,

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Speaker 1: but now y'all watching it and not everybody loves it

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Speaker 1: and now I'm here with somebody because she's wearing a

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Speaker 1: coat due to the fact that her back hurts because

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Speaker 1: she's been carrying the season.

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Speaker 3: Give it up, Toya, bunch hair, not carrying the season.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I can't do it alone. So you out to

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Speaker 4: my castmates. I love my friends. My castmates, y'all are amazing.

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Speaker 4: My producers, man, we had We have had some great

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Speaker 4: producers over the years.

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Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I'm just highly blessed. Really am.

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Speaker 3: They taught me everything I know.

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Speaker 1: Toy Toya non it out you. First of all, we're

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Speaker 1: both from Detroit, you and our friends in real life. Yes,

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Speaker 1: in my life when I have been championing for this show, yeah, forever,

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Speaker 1: and the moment I got my podcast, I used it

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Speaker 1: to say, look, guys, you gotta watch this show. How

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Speaker 1: does it feel now to know that I feel like

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Speaker 1: this show is finally.

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Speaker 2: Getting the momentum it deserves.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to say right off the back, I

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Speaker 4: appreciate you because you could only be talking about your shows.

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Speaker 3: But I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because it goes a long

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Speaker 4: way when someone can say and have the biggest heart

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Speaker 4: for their people and say, you know what, this is

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Speaker 4: just a good show. Whether I like your production team

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Speaker 4: or whatever, I love y'all and y'all are good tv

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Speaker 4: and we need it because really and truly it's just us.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're a little pond. We're a little fish

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Speaker 4: in a big pond. It's like, you know, there's a

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Speaker 4: ton of housewives, know.

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Speaker 3: But you know, married to medicine. It's just us right now.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully now listen, you ladies are the ependeme of great television.

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Speaker 2: Y'all. Clock in this season is off the charts.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into a lot of that, we have

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Speaker 1: to start with the breaking news.

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Speaker 2: Oh that Quad and King did break up. It was

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Speaker 2: announced first on.

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Speaker 1: Sunday where King said that, you know, somebody said.

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Speaker 2: Oh, can you look good?

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Speaker 1: Qua's a lucky woman, and he responding and said her

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Speaker 1: luck ran out, her luck ran out. And then another

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Speaker 1: woman says something, and he said, I left the situation.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised when you learned that Quad and King

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Speaker 1: broke up?

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Speaker 4: I was more surprised that I and I prayed it.

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Speaker 4: Quad gives me the same grace that she's gonna give Heavenly,

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Speaker 4: because you know, Heavenly came on your show, and she said,

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Speaker 4: that's my friend, and so Qua's my friend now too,

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Speaker 4: you know, And Quad said, you know or Heavenly said,

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Speaker 3: So let's make it clear.

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Speaker 4: Heavenly said that they've been broken up for months, right

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Speaker 4: she did, you know? And I'm just curious how many

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Speaker 4: so it's Heavenly. He has developed relationships to the point

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Speaker 4: where thank you, King shout out to you know, giving

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Speaker 4: my son one of the best birthday gifts ever. And

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Speaker 4: I appreciate him. He's been there for my husband. They

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Speaker 4: And I and I don't want y'all to think that

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Speaker 3: Quad brought him to us.

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Speaker 4: Okay, And he's a nice guy, and I hate that

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Speaker 4: this season it's so hard for him because really and

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Speaker 3: Cold towards her or just distant. I'm not even gonna

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Speaker 4: He's distant and he's not as loving as he was

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Speaker 4: and you can see it, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And I think that the viewers are going to start

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Speaker 4: watch the show, and then you'll ask yourself, were they together?

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Speaker 4: Because that's what I started asking king myself.

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Speaker 2: Did you ask him yourself?

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Speaker 4: I did, but it's not my business to tell. I

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Speaker 4: think that it's something that you know.

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Speaker 5: High Quad.

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Speaker 3: I'll call you, yeah, yeah, please do because.

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Speaker 2: Have you reached out to Qua since learning about the breakup?

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Speaker 4: Quad has actually been there for me recently my father

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Speaker 4: has been in the hospital.

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Speaker 3: She called me, she prayed with me.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: Quid has been a friend to everybody this season, and

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Speaker 4: so that's why it's so hard, because it's like, God,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to argue with my friends, you know,

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Speaker 4: But it is sad because I feel I'm one of

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Speaker 4: those people that you know, I fight for everyone I do.

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Speaker 4: You know, even if you're my enemy, I'm still fighting

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Speaker 4: I just feel like it's just so unfair when when

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Speaker 4: you only hear one side of the story, that's all

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Speaker 4: you know, that's what the media is for.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know you you did mention that you.

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Speaker 1: Solicited King service because he owns a luxury car dealers

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Speaker 1: chef and he did a surprise for your son. Do

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Speaker 1: you think you broke the girl code by keeping in

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Speaker 1: touch with your friend's X man?

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't keep in touch. I do not

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Speaker 4: have his phone number. I do not have his DM.

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Speaker 3: I know what this DM is. But yes, absolutely, absolutely his.

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Speaker 2: You don't think you're trying to follow him.

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Speaker 3: Eugene and him are good friends.

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Speaker 2: But are y'all good friends?

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Speaker 3: Am I good friends with King? I'm about as good

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Speaker 3: of a friend with King as I am. A quad?

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Speaker 4: Me a quad are just getting our relationship together. So

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Speaker 4: come on now, now you know that shit? Okay, that's

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Speaker 4: like that that God forbid.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: The day we're good, tomorrow we're not. So you know

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 4: I'm not doing all that, you know now, Simone went

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Speaker 4: unfollowed Jackie the other day. But I don't follow people. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I it ain't that deep. Okay, I just mute you.

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Speaker 4: I will mute your story.

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 1: So okay, So when it comes to another revelation that

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Speaker 1: happened because this has been a busy married to Bedison week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: your friend, doctor Simone has been posting a lot of

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Speaker 1: things about doctor Jackie. She said that after doctor Jackie

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Speaker 1: appeared or watch What Happens Live, doctor Simone tweeted, you

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Speaker 1: are still defending the devil in all caps, and then

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Speaker 1: doctor Simone posted a screenshot of comments of people telling

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Speaker 1: doctor Simone that doctor Jackie is not her friend. And

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Speaker 1: we've learned that doctor Simone has unfollowed doctor Jackie.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of that?

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Speaker 4: You know? I just feel it's actually really really sad

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Speaker 4: because Jackie and Simone go back to Simone being there

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Speaker 4: when Jackie went through a huge ordeal with cancer.

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Speaker 3: And I remember when we first started married to.

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Speaker 4: Medicine and they said to me, nothing is gonna come

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Speaker 2: We are this right here.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, girls, all right, you know,

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Speaker 4: and I believe them, you know, And I hate to

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Speaker 4: say it, but this time it is the devil. And

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna call Heavenly a devil, gonna say I

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Speaker 4: think it's a spirit on her because the reality is

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Speaker 4: what y'all are seeing on television is half of the story.

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Speaker 3: All the time. Thank God for the camera.

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Speaker 4: And that's why someonone kept saying review the footage, rewind

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Speaker 4: the tape in the green screen, and they did. And

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Speaker 4: I love my production team for doing that, because the

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Speaker 4: girls will lie, and she lied and someone was not

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Speaker 4: unhinged at all. And I'm not just saying that because

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Speaker 4: that's my friend, because I defend even my enemy.

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 1: When you saw someone grab Heavenly's arm.

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Speaker 4: Remove, let's use let's use the word remove Heavenly remoa.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, you did you feel like that was enough

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Speaker 4: No, because just before that, if you really rewind the footage,

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Speaker 4: you'll see Quad and I and I'm grabbing Quad, Like,

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Speaker 4: calm down when you're hearing Simon, that was an unhinged moment.

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Speaker 4: I pushed me through things back security jumped in the midst.

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Speaker 3: That's unhinged. Okay.

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Speaker 4: What Simone did was make a statement, and the statement

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Speaker 3: And I think anyone should be able to do that.

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Speaker 4: Thank God, we're able to do that on TV, you know,

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Speaker 4: because people will try to provoke you and and and

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Speaker 4: because I've been there. I remember people flipping my hair

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Speaker 4: and all of that and and everything else that came

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Speaker 4: with it years ago, you know. But it takes a

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Speaker 3: Props to her.

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Speaker 2: Do you think, doctor jack he is a good friend

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Speaker 2: to someone own.

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Speaker 4: I think that she could be a better friend to many.

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Speaker 4: I think that there's a lot of times where Jackie

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Speaker 4: not the Jackie that I knew years ago. I'll never

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Speaker 4: forget Lemon Squeeze Jackie. I'll never forget coming to her

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Speaker 4: within the last maybe five years or so, And I

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Speaker 4: think so, I think honestly, it was something that happened

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Speaker 4: when we were filming and Jackie broke in the tears,

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Speaker 3: Was arguing with Mariah.

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Speaker 4: It was the whole thing about the drugs, and Jackie

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Speaker 4: where Jackie just decided, I would rather not even stand

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Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, her and Qua's relationship, you know, Heavenly,

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're union content?

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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Well listen you when when you when you

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Speaker 2: You know, doctor Mimi is a new cast member and.

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Speaker 1: She's very opinionated. I think she's wonderful for the show.

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Speaker 3: You mean Brandy? Are you talking about Brandy or me?

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry? Did you mean Brandy? Did you mean Brandy?

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Speaker 3: I know you meant Brandy. Stop playing. You don't mean Randy.

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Speaker 2: I love Brandy too.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's the realest one now right, Okay.

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Speaker 4: She's giving you herself. She's a breath of fresh air.

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Speaker 4: I'll let's talk about Brandy. What don't you want to

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Speaker 3: Am I taking over? I'm sorry? As your platform as

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Speaker 2: I love you? You about Detroit saistor, all right, we

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you are bounced it.

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Speaker 1: Out, But I would like to start with doctor Mimmy.

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Speaker 1: I think she's great for the show. Her husband is

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Speaker 1: I can say this. You can't, not that you would.

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Speaker 2: But attracted.

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Speaker 3: You think he attracted?

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, really I think Steve?

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Speaker 3: What the boys say? What? What? What are you saying?

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Speaker 1: I have never conducted an interview on this podcast that

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Speaker 4: You know, it's God, all praise I am.

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Speaker 2: You are really good. You know.

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Speaker 4: My pastor's wife says she would like to see what

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Speaker 4: I said, okay, all right, I got you.

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Speaker 1: No listen, I love everything about you.

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Speaker 2: You are really dominating his interview and I'm here for it.

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Speaker 1: I think Steve is gorgeous. I think he's stunning. Yes,

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Speaker 1: no disrespect doctor me me, but Steve is extremely attractive,

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Speaker 3: Isene but is extremely attracted surprise game.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I want to give you his flowers

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Speaker 2: Now before he gets here, honey, I'm gonna stick on Steve.

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Speaker 3: Honey, Okay, how long? All right?

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Speaker 2: Okay, sorry Mimi? AnyWho? Back to Mimi. I think Mimi

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: I definitely think she's following behind Heavenly for protection and

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Speaker 3: I think Steve is great for the show. I do.

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Speaker 2: What work does she need?

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Speaker 3: Just you know, you got to learn to stand on

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Speaker 4: No, she does not. She likes to use special trigger words.

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: Chaos? She's in chaos? You know she you know? Am

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: Heavily didn't get that she's unhinged. That was me me,

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Speaker 4: stop playing Stop. When did we heard Heavily say anything

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Speaker 3: Besides? Yo, mama, people, honey.

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Speaker 6: I'm obsessed with medicine.

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Speaker 2: You don't watch this show. I don't know what the

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Speaker 3: The best because we want the truth where everybody wants

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Speaker 2: You don't think doctor is being truthful? Child?

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Speaker 4: I think, Hey, I can get under the people's skin. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I didn't know I was made for TV, but I

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Speaker 4: guess I am. You are, so it is what it is?

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Speaker 3: Okay, can I can I be sony? Okay? Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know, but I get it. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I understand.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 4: All I'm saying is, if I can give me me

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Speaker 3: Learn how to.

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Speaker 4: Stop trying to pretend like your psycho analyzing your friends.

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Speaker 4: But really you're judging your friends because none of us

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Speaker 4: know nothing about any of us except for Quad and Heavenly,

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Speaker 4: those are the only individuals you can diagnose.

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 2: Has she tried to get to know you and some own.

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Speaker 3: No, she doesn't call us.

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Speaker 4: There's been numerous times where my husband tried to reach

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Speaker 3: Maybe my husband too fine for him. You know, it

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He can't hang out with

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Speaker 5: Does Steve do?

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Speaker 3: Oh he works under his wife. I think you work

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Speaker 3: He's the office manager. I mean in every scene, they

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Speaker 3: But I don't know. I don't know. Is there paper

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Speaker 2: I don't you tell me.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's rewind the footage is.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that's why he's so cute. Wait, yes,

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Speaker 3: Bunch old men. You know what I'm saying. It's nice

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Speaker 4: She is, Angel is breathtaking. Angel has to be honest.

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Speaker 4: Angel spoke up a lot. You know, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: Okay, But I will say this, I love having Angel

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Speaker 2: And you are proverbs thirty one woman yourself? Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know what that means.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: I am well, I would like to be a proverb

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Speaker 3: Obviously, it's some things that I'm working on.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it to you and you tell me.

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Speaker 1: If Toya bush Hair is working on Proverbs thirty one woman,

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Speaker 1: you're ready for this?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay?

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Speaker 4: Because she did call them all a Proverbs thirty one.

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Speaker 4: Proverbs thirty one woman, you should be uprod. Yeah, she

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's see what You're ready? Okay, ready for this? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I got I read this chot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Virtuous and trustworthy? Is that you?

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Speaker 3: My friends would say so.

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Speaker 2: Earning her husband's full confidence.

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Speaker 2: Strong and dignified, oh, very generous and wise.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, My sons would say so.

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Speaker 2: Faithful Yes, I think, yes, I think.

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Speaker 4: I think. I think it's hard to faithful to what

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Oh my bad, it said her alto It really

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Speaker 4: That part is that you, that part, baby, I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to hell for nobody. And I always say that too,

446
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Speaker 4: and the girls know, down to the down to they

447
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Speaker 4: all know if this one thing I can get from

448
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Speaker 4: Toya as a prayer, I can get. They know that

449
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 4: my relationship with God is strong. And I'm scary, you

450
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Speaker 4: know about I don't want to go to hell. I

451
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Speaker 4: don't want to lie.

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Speaker 3: I try.

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Speaker 4: You know, when I was younger, there was a lot

454
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Speaker 4: of things that I did that I'm not proud of.

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Speaker 2: And they like having do your turn paper to get

456
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Speaker 2: a date with.

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Speaker 4: You, No like stealing, like you know, being arrested as

458
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Speaker 4: a child, you know, just putting my mom through hell.

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Speaker 3: You know, rebellious you know, rebellious spirit, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I think when I look back, if I could

461
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Speaker 4: just redo some parts of my life. But it's okay

462
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Speaker 4: because you know, God said, guess what I got grace

463
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Speaker 4: for you, and look at you now.

464
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Speaker 3: He said, because some people won't see.

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Speaker 4: If I wasn't on TV, you would think, you would

466
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Speaker 4: never think. You know, my friends know that there is

467
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Speaker 4: that Toya.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I read somewhere on Instagram and it said if my

470
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Speaker 4: girlfriend had six husbands and I have six brother in laws,

471
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Speaker 4: because and neither one of them will know because that's

472
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Speaker 4: my girl, you know. And I am faithful to my friends.

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Speaker 4: I value the friendships that I have. I just got

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Speaker 4: back from the dr of fifty and from my girl

475
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Speaker 4: just turned fifty and I've known her since I was

476
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Speaker 4: in sixth grade. All of my friendships date back that far,

477
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Speaker 4: you know, except for the girls I'm married to me.

478
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Speaker 4: But even with them, it's been over fifteen almost eighteen

479
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Speaker 4: years for some of us.

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Speaker 3: And I'm a faithful friend.

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Speaker 4: I am, you know, But there comes a time where

482
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Speaker 4: being faithful doesn't mean you have to lie. And I've

483
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Speaker 4: never asked my friends to lie for me, and I'm

484
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Speaker 4: not gonna lie for them.

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Speaker 1: Based on what I read about the definition of a

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Speaker 1: proverb thirty one one man, well you was confused.

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Speaker 3: You thought he was talking about Eugene. No, so let's

488
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Speaker 3: let's redo that. Let's talk about God.

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Speaker 1: So that they said, I'm gonna say a name, and

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Speaker 1: you tell me if they are a proverb thirty one woman.

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Speaker 2: Based on the definition, do you remember.

492
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Speaker 3: It shoulder honey?

493
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's the perfect time.

494
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Speaker 1: Hey, honey, here, come on, be a Eugene.

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Speaker 3: You look amazing.

496
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Speaker 1: No, Eugene is when I had Eugene and see someone podcasts.

497
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Speaker 1: First of all, the numbers went through the roof because

498
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Speaker 1: it was nice to hear just from them. Yea, and

499
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: the way they love up on the women.

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Speaker 4: But that's what that's our show up part too. Our

501
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: men are there working for free. They are not being paid.

502
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 3: They are just there to support their wives.

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00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 4: And that is a very loving place because there's a

504
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Speaker 4: lot of housewives husbands that say they're not doing it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the thing is, and I can say

506
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Speaker 1: this public because I already said it. You know, Cynthia

507
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: used to give Peter ten percent of her paycheck.

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Speaker 3: And and someone might she might, You should ask her.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but Eugene gets way more than ten

510
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Speaker 4: percent because Switzerland.

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Speaker 3: Was way.

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Speaker 5: What I miss.

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Speaker 6: So much.

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Speaker 2: Talk us. Don't worry. There's one question I do want

515
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Speaker 2: to get your opinion on.

516
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I know what that is.

517
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Speaker 2: You really are okay, So listen, rain drops.

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Speaker 1: We are blessed with the presence of this great man

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Speaker 1: who I.

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00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: Revered so much. I'm not gonna get emotional.

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00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: You should he just drove in from work.

522
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Speaker 2: No, but I know he did, but.

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Speaker 3: You no.

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Speaker 1: But he also The thing about doctor Eugene is I

525
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: was going through something personal. You know about that, yes, oh, yes, yes, yes,

526
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Speaker 1: yes yes. And I called Toya and I said I

527
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: need to talk to Eugene, and Eugene was there for me.

528
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Speaker 1: And and I just want to say for the world

529
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Speaker 1: to know, this is a good man, Savannah like like

530
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Speaker 1: like in real in real life. This man helped me

531
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Speaker 1: through something that I was going through on a personal

532
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Speaker 1: level through somebody in my life. And I just think

533
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: you're the greatest thing in the world. So give it

534
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: up for doctor Eugene Harrid.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate it.

536
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: Now, you didn't miss all of the girl talk, but

537
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: I do have to you came in at the right

538
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Speaker 1: time because I was reading the definition.

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Speaker 5: You know, they say, I need to stay out of

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Speaker 5: women's business.

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Speaker 6: Reality the Kings man, this man is obviously the women's business,

542
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Speaker 6: so welcome to my book.

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00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: His wife is his business period period.

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Speaker 1: So as you know, Angel mentioned on the show a

545
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Speaker 1: Proverbs thirty one woman, and I want to know if

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Speaker 1: your wife fits the description virtuous and trustworthy, yes, strong

547
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: and dignified yes, generous and wise yes.

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Speaker 2: Faithful.

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Speaker 1: Now with that being said, I'm gonna name some names

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Speaker 1: and you tell me if they are a Proverbs.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one woman, Okay.

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Speaker 3: For me or him, both of y'all.

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Speaker 4: He can't he's okay, okay, fine for you, okay, but you.

554
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Speaker 2: Can make a noise if you disagree.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I make faces, okay, dom thirty one woman, doctor Heavenly.

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Speaker 4: She is not trustworthy, so no, okay, Doctor Simone, Yes,

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Speaker 4: Doctor Jackie, Yes, Quad.

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Speaker 3: I'm developing the trust. We're trying.

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Speaker 4: But in the past there has been some things that

560
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 4: has shown me that I think trust in faithful. But

561
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Speaker 4: if we're talking about faithful to God, that's different. I

562
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Speaker 4: think we're all striving to be probably thirty one women,

563
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Speaker 4: and I don't want to say that I can judge

564
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Speaker 4: anybody because I fall short. Okay, Yeah, Doctor Mimi, I

565
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 4: don't know her.

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Speaker 5: She's a cast mate.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't call me, we don't spend any time together.

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Speaker 3: We're on a group thread. That's all I know.

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Speaker 1: Y'alls wearing matching pajamas, celebrating Christmas brob them for us.

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Speaker 3: At Walmart? Okay Walmart?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: No shape the Walmart.

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Speaker 2: No shame.

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Speaker 4: I mean it could have been, but we're not going

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Speaker 4: to target right.

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Speaker 1: Now, you know, I mean, okay, wrapping things up Brandy.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, yes, from what I spend time with her, I

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Speaker 4: speak with her. I said earlier, my father is going

580
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Speaker 4: through some things in the hospital. Brandy has been there

581
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Speaker 4: for me. Simone has been there for me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, they've all been great.

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00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 4: Everybody else has given their prayers, and my friend Group

584
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Speaker 4: Quad has prayed with me.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, she's been a great friend.

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Speaker 4: And I love the fact that when Mimi tried to

587
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Speaker 4: put her on the spot and tell her who she

588
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: should align herself with, Brandy said, I'm gonna need you

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Speaker 4: not talk to me like girl, I got this, you don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't need you to do any of that for me. Okay.

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Speaker 3: It's like that part okay, because.

592
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Speaker 4: You've grown and you have your own voice and you

593
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Speaker 4: are not manipulated by the people.

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Speaker 3: That part.

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Speaker 1: And last, but not least, the woman who made the

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Speaker 1: statement alive Angel is Angel.

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Speaker 2: A Proverbs thirty one woman.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting to know Angel.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, the longest time I've spent with her was after

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Speaker 4: the party we had at the house where everybody said

601
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Speaker 4: I went crazy and went off with my husband in

602
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Speaker 4: a disrespectful way. She stayed her, Angel stay Quad, stayed

603
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Speaker 4: King stayed until three in the morning. We were all

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Speaker 4: outside talking and had a.

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Speaker 3: Wonderful time, had a wonderful time. Well, isn't that something

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Speaker 3: a wonderful time.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we get to talk about that, But before

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Speaker 1: we get we get to talk about that night that

609
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Speaker 1: literally broke the internet. I do want to ask you,

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Speaker 1: doctor Eugene. Recent news broke that King and Quad have

611
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Speaker 1: broken up, and I wanted to get your thoughts on it.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised by the news or did you see

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Speaker 1: it coming.

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Speaker 7: I hate to say I kind of saw it coming

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Speaker 7: to a certain degree, only because and I'm actually cool

616
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Speaker 7: with King, and I think, you know, he's a new friend,

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Speaker 7: but I actually would use the word friend. We actually talked,

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Speaker 7: We hung out on Father's Day, like we I hang

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Speaker 7: out with King. King always had an issue. I think

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Speaker 7: that the focus of their relationship was baby only. You know,

621
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Speaker 7: when you're a new couple and you're just getting to to,

622
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Speaker 7: you know, meet this person, the focus should be getting

623
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Speaker 7: to know them, not fertility stuff. And you know, I

624
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Speaker 7: think that it was too much focus on other stuff

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Speaker 7: other than really establishing their bond. And I think it

626
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Speaker 7: it affected him to a certain degree.

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Speaker 2: Have you spoken to him since the news broke, or

628
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Speaker 2: did you I.

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Speaker 5: Told him the news broke. I said, hey, Ken, you

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Speaker 5: all over the internet.

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Speaker 2: Well, he brought the news himself. He told us part,

632
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Speaker 2: well tell them all.

633
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: Before that news.

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Speaker 7: No, he did know that that his his comments were

635
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Speaker 7: on the internet.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, he went on the internet and made the comment.

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Speaker 5: I know he didn't know that it would hit him

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Speaker 5: with Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 7: I was like, hey, I said, hey, Ken, you know

641
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Speaker 7: you're on TMZ. He's like, huh, so I sent it

642
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Speaker 7: to him.

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Speaker 4: He was like, oh, but see the TMZ call him

644
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Speaker 4: because they called or the called TMZ quiet.

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Speaker 7: A statement came after King's stuff blew up. I believe

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Speaker 7: when did you know they broke up?

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Speaker 5: When did I know they broke up?

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, I'm sorry to you.

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Speaker 5: He said, this has been done.

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Speaker 7: Because I think that because the focus was off, like

651
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 7: they just weren't on the same page, you know.

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Speaker 3: All at all.

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Speaker 4: That's we would advise everyone to enjoy your relationship for

654
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Speaker 4: as long as you can and establish a bond between

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Speaker 4: each other so that hopefully once you have the kids

656
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: yet that bond is first you know, it's unbreakable in

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Speaker 4: front of the kids, and you know, our kids, I

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Speaker 4: tell you, Gene all the time, we got to we

659
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Speaker 4: have to be on the same team.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, let me retract that statement because actually, even when

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Speaker 7: I think of like I've been, you know, we've been

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Speaker 7: you know, we go to marriage counciling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So one of the things I've been trying to really

665
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Speaker 7: self reflect on some things, and I was like, you know,

666
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Speaker 7: and think of thinking about things more philosophically almost. I

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Speaker 7: think when a man and woman fall in love, when

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Speaker 7: she has a baby, she falls in love with that

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00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 7: baby to a certain degree. And it's hard to be

670
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 7: in love with two people at the same time in love,

671
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 7: you know. And so when you look at a man

672
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 7: and a woman after they have children, the focus does

673
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 7: shift off the man to a certain degree, and I

674
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 7: think they never had I think, the full experience of

675
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 7: falling in love because they were probably going in that direction.

676
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 5: But then the shift it to I want.

677
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 7: To have a baby. I want to have a baby.

678
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 7: I want a baby. So King's like, as a man,

679
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 7: what about me? What about us?

680
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: Like those are the questions I would ask him.

681
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: You know what made you put aside everything that you

682
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 4: need for her needs?

683
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: You know?

684
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: Why did you stay and film and continue when y'all

685
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 4: were not in a good.

686
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 3: Place, like that's what I want And I never asked,

687
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: and I could have.

688
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 4: But if you ask, and you know, and someone asks you,

689
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 4: then you're obligated to tell that they ask for the truth.

690
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 4: And so I'd rather not know so much, you know.

691
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: But I think there's a story there, definitely.

692
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: Well we will fight out, but what I will say

693
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: is there's a story going on with YouTube that has

694
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: rattled social media. Episodes ago, you guys had a party

695
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: at your house and you two got into an argument.

696
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: And how to get to the specifics of it, Because

697
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: y'all were there, we all watched it. But Toya, people

698
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: do not like the way you speak to your husband,

699
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: and they think you emasculate him on purpose. They think

700
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: you don't respect him, and even Heavenly has said something

701
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: along the lines of you treat him this way maybe

702
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: because you want something else.

703
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 2: What do you have to say to people who feel

704
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: this way?

705
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: I think I'll start from the back end of Heavenly.

706
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: I think that we all think at some point in

707
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: our life that we need or deserve something else whenever

708
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 4: things aren't going our way. And I think when it

709
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 4: comes to my husband, the one thing I know for

710
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 4: a fact is that he chose me, and God spoke

711
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 4: to me and said he was for me.

712
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 3: And I was like, what you know.

713
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: I didn't even I wasn't even ready for marriage really,

714
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 4: but he was like, that's for you.

715
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: He's for you.

716
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 4: And every since we've been together, we've been blessed and

717
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 4: because we're obedient, and I was obedient to God, and

718
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 4: so I know that Eugene is for me.

719
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that we're.

720
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: Not gonna have that we're gonna be the perfect couple.

721
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: I've only met one couple that I say sometimes is

722
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: borderline perfection. They laugh all the time. It's my aunt

723
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 4: and my uncle. But the reality is Eugenie and I

724
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 4: have been on camera now, I think for almost thirteen years,

725
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 4: and so the camera no longer is present.

726
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 3: It's almost like it's.

727
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: A little stranger in the room, but it's like you

728
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 4: don't really pay any attention. And that particular day, it

729
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: was a real life scenario that that was something that

730
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 4: me and Eugene has had we fought to overcome. In

731
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: the beginning of our marriage, we would have some heated

732
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 4: discussions in front of our friends and it was uncomfortable

733
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 4: for them because they loved us both. We would even

734
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 4: try to make them choose sides. It was bad, and

735
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 4: I think that the public is right to a certain extent.

736
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,479
Speaker 4: I shoot from the hip.

737
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: I'm blunt, I can be rude.

738
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 4: I I don't mean to emasculate my husband, and I

739
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 4: definitely it's not my intention to attack him. By no means,

740
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 4: I do feel like there are times when I'm unheard

741
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 4: and I need more self control when it comes to

742
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: speaking to my husband, whether it be or during a camera,

743
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 4: you know, around friends or in private. I think that

744
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: we both are a work in progress, you know. But

745
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: I'm by no means perfect, and that's my prayer. Now,

746
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 4: that's my struggle, and I'm just glad that my ultimate

747
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 4: judge is God, and he knows my heart. He knows

748
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: that I'm really trying to be a nicer person when

749
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 4: it comes to my husband.

750
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 3: And we even learned in our marriage counseling that.

751
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 4: We have some triggers that we've had for years, you know,

752
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 4: And one of my triggers is not being her because

753
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: as a child, I always felt like my voice was.

754
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: I couldn't use it in my mother's house.

755
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: It was her word and that's it. And so when

756
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 4: I grew up, I was like, nobody going to tell me,

757
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: you know, And it was all of that. And you know,

758
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 4: growing up in Detroit, it was like, you know, it's

759
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: a battle sometimes, you know, my family, it.

760
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: Is what it is.

761
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, because in Detroit.

762
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: We can polish up nights, but.

763
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: You well, in Detroit you're not again except for the rules,

764
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: but being raised in Detroit in a household with parents,

765
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: you are not allowed type of boys.

766
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 3: No, no at all.

767
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 5: It's what they say.

768
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: In his household, he was raised the same way.

769
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 5: I think there's.

770
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 7: I think the public obviously sees us and judges us,

771
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 7: you know, they and we're pretty open. I think we

772
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 7: give a good representation of think of who we are.

773
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 7: But the public still doesn't see the whole. Toya, they

774
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 7: don't see the whole, Eugene, Like, I know how she

775
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 7: grew up. She knows how I grew up. You know,

776
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 7: I know, I know her parents, I know her where

777
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 7: she came from, I know all these other aspects of

778
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 7: like you just might see Toya saying something, but I

779
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 7: know where it came from, you know, so I get

780
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 7: I get it, you know, if I know the backstory

781
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 7: and understand the whole person. Sometimes when she says something,

782
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 7: I may not take it the way the public is

783
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 7: going to see it, because I get what's happening.

784
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: And it's not him making excuses for I think it's

785
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 4: recognizing too that there are some things that happen and

786
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 4: he's growing and when he was growing up, and they

787
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 4: may have made him a certain type of way where

788
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: he triggers me.

789
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: And and that does he do.

790
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 2: That triggers you specifically?

791
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, if I can I be honest,

792
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: are you sure?

793
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 5: I don't know what you're about to say?

794
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that one of my triggers is

795
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: I don't like for him to drink a lot, especially

796
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: on camera. I think in that scene they thought I

797
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 4: was drunk, but really, and truly, my husband had worked

798
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 4: hours and not eight and he was having a great

799
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 4: and I was pissed, you know, and I was trying

800
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: and I'm so used to him being my my ride

801
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: die and helping me through these scenes, and that day

802
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 4: he was kicking it with the guys, and I'm like,

803
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 4: we're trying to make a show, you know, what are

804
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 4: we doing here? And so it just, you know, it

805
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 4: was things that was happening that just were you know,

806
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 4: it was triggering for me. And when I kept trying

807
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 4: to get his attention, you know, and I was like, hey, hey, honey,

808
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 4: can you please, can you do this? They only showed

809
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 4: you know. I mean we were at my house for

810
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 4: over four hours. They showed a forty five minute version

811
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 4: of it. There were so many times where I had

812
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 4: asked over and over.

813
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 3: I had asked.

814
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 4: Scott had even stood up and was like, I'll do it, Toya,

815
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: you know. And it wasn't that I was trying to

816
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 4: get him to do what I say. It's not it.

817
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 4: It's just that at that moment, it's pressure, you know.

818
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 4: And when I see my friends giving me that look,

819
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 4: that side eye, and then I see people that aren't

820
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: even my friends like me me, you know, that don't

821
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 4: know us, don't know our relationship, but that are looking

822
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: for something. I was angry, you know, and it came out,

823
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 4: and I admit, you know, I took a lot of

824
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 4: it out on Eugene, you know. And I think that

825
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: through marriage counseling, it's great because we we talk about, Okay,

826
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 4: why do we still have the same triggers that we've

827
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: had here that we no longer need.

828
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

829
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 4: I need to feel safe with my husband, and sometimes

830
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: I don't always feel that way, you know, and I

831
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 4: think that what.

832
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: Does safe look like for you? When it comes to him.

833
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 4: A good example, being raised in Detroit, you might have

834
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: stayed in the house with bars on the window, right,

835
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 4: bars on the front door.

836
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: You know that was my scenario. I remember.

837
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: My stepfather always saying it's a man's job to lock

838
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: each door, make sure the house is on lockdown when

839
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: it's time to go to be it. You know, I

840
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: never saw my parents drinking in front of me. And

841
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 4: I'm talking about my stepfather and my mother, not my father,

842
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 4: but just providing an environment where I can be who

843
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: I need to because I know he got me. And

844
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 4: I guess that's why, even though he's not an alcoholic

845
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 4: and he can drink and have a great time, it

846
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 4: triggers me because I know that once he gets thereed

847
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 4: and it's my turn to be that.

848
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 3: Protector.

849
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: And I don't want to be that. I don't always

850
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: want to be the strong girl. I feel like I

851
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 4: was raised being that and I want to be soft too,

852
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 4: you know. I want my husband. We're working on the

853
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: trigger words. I said, can you just call me lovey

854
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 4: when you want to calm me down? Because I want

855
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 4: to be loving. I want to be all the things

856
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 4: that he needs. And so we're figuring out where we

857
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: are eighteen years later in our marriage and what we

858
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 4: need individually and can he provide that for me? Absolutely,

859
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: But I have to be at a place where I

860
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 4: can express them, where he can hear me.

861
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: And so I'm working on me and he's working on home.

862
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: And how does it feel for you to hear her

863
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: say those things?

864
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 7: I mean, we're working progress, you know, And I think

865
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 7: you're always trying to reinvent yourself to be better and

866
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 7: that's and that's what she's doing. That's what I'm doing.

867
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 7: So if I mean, if I would, I would be disappointed.

868
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 7: She was like, Oh, I'm perfect, you know. It's it's

869
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 7: only it's only your problem, you know, And you're the

870
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 7: only one that needs to change. That's not what's what

871
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 7: she's saying. She's like, Hey, yeah, I have triggers, and

872
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 7: some of my triggers are because my parents. Some of

873
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 7: my triggers are past relationships. Some of my triggers are

874
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 7: the shit you're doing now, you know. But I think

875
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 7: recognizing it, I think is the first step of change.

876
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 4: But I think he also has to and we are

877
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 4: figuring this out in our marriage counseling. He has to

878
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 4: own the fact too that he get defensive. And when

879
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 4: he gets defensive, is it necessary? Is that going to

880
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 4: help him to get his point across to me? You know?

881
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: And so there are things now that as a married couple,

882
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 4: you know, we're working on, but owning your part in it,

883
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: owning your things that you know, I can't worry about

884
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 4: so much him owning or.

885
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: Telling the world his business. That's his business.

886
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 4: But I don't mind because they're paying me, you know,

887
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: and there and they're always going to show me in

888
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 4: a certain light, you know, and I hate that because

889
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 4: I try to change it all the time, you know.

890
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 4: Like you'll see towards the end of the season, I

891
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 4: just was like, I have to stop giving it to him.

892
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 4: You know. I can't blame production for anything because I

893
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: give them these moments. And so if I just I

894
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 4: got to figure out a way to still make good TV,

895
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 4: but do it in a way that makes me proud,

896
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 4: my pastor's wife proud, my husband proud, and God proud.

897
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: Right, But I do think that starts with you, right,

898
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: And I hear you a lot and clear when you

899
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: say and I never knew that you Obviously you were

900
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: a little girl, right, who.

901
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: Did not have a voice in her own household.

902
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 6: Right.

903
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: And as you got out, you sort of like broke free,

904
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, from a spiritual standpoint, a physical standpoint, an

905
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: emotional standpoint, you were free.

906
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 2: It reminds me of when I left Detroit at.

907
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: Twenty two, and I was don't laugh, I was in

908
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: the closet with this voice, still in this manimism.

909
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: Don't blame me, don't me anyway, shut up.

910
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 4: To I believe it though Detroit is Detroit was in

911
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: the closet for a long time.

912
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

913
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: But my point is I grew up in a household

914
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: where I could not be my full self. So when

915
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: I left Detroit, I moved to New York City, and

916
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: baby I became everything I came to be. And when

917
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: I came back home a year later, I had two earrings, right,

918
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: And my father said to me.

919
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: That's it, right, And I said, m hmm.

920
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: But my point was, I understand what you're going through

921
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: in terms of like your expressed of because you weren't

922
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: able to do that. But I do think this though,

923
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: if I can give you some of the device as

924
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: my sister.

925
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 2: I do think this.

926
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: I think you said something that I was going to

927
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: say to you too, and I'm glad. I'm glad you

928
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: said it because it shows.

929
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 2: Me you're growing.

930
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: You're repeating the same cycle over and over again, and

931
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: you have to you have to tell yourself how are

932
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: you able to.

933
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: Manage your reaction to things?

934
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: Because you are very expressive and he isn't right and

935
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: his expression looks very different than yours.

936
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: And the one thing I want to talk to you

937
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 2: about though.

938
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 3: Because he did say what the fuck?

939
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: Well? I do again.

940
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm a viewer, but I think I can speak on

941
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: behalf of America.

942
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 2: And I say this with love.

943
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Yes, Toya, we all felt it's about time for Eugene.

944
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: Stemha okay, oh okay.

945
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 1: We were like finally because we and and please stop

946
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: me if I got this all wrong. When we look

947
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: at this man, there's a lot of women who want

948
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: your husband. And I'm pretty sure you know that, yes,

949
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: and you know that I'm pretty sure.

950
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if you read DMS.

951
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: I hope you don't because one of the reasons why

952
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: King told the world they broke up is because girls

953
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: were flirting with him in the comments, knowing that at

954
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: least they thought he was a qua.

955
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: But my point.

956
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: Is these girls don't carry if you got a woman

957
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: or not, they're gonna flur with you. There's a lot

958
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: of women who want your man because they look at

959
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: this very successful black man who not spiritually, but he

960
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: worships the ground you walk on. You are his dream girl,

961
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: and you live a very soft life to us. To us,

962
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say why because this man works to

963
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: the bone to make sure that Toya Bush Harris is happy.

964
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: And I do think that it looks differently for you.

965
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: So what we're seeing as the audience is and when

966
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: I say this, I'm saying this with kindness, we look

967
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: at you like this grateful bitch. Do you know how

968
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: many women a man want your man, will love a

969
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: Eugene to have in their life. And we do feel

970
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: like you take him for granted. And when he buck

971
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: up back on you, we you know, a lot of

972
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: the girls got turned on because you know, they were like, hey, Eugene,

973
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: but they also felt like it's about damn time she's

974
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: she deserves for you to buck up on her.

975
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: But I do. Do you get what I'm saying right?

976
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 2: I figure, yes, But I do want to ask you this.

977
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: Did were you ever able to move past the comments

978
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: your wife made about your penis?

979
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 7: She okay, I still don't think she made a comment

980
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 7: about my penis.

981
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 3: Correct?

982
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: It was it was, it was.

983
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 5: It was.

984
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 7: It was a figurative thing, and it got it. They

985
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 7: ran with it. The other ladies, yes, Quad ran with it,

986
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 7: even ran with it, you know, but she.

987
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: Didn't even today when they bring it up, and what

988
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: I what, I cut you off. But the reason why

989
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm asking you that is because this season, in your

990
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: frustration with her, y'all had a one on one scene

991
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: and in your frustration with her, you brought it up again,

992
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: like they're saying, that's about me, So that's all I guess.

993
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 7: It's because it's an ongoing issue. Like even though that

994
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 7: was several years ago that this comment was made. The

995
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 7: same day of the party, the pool party, I'm in

996
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 7: text messages talking about yeah, and your your husband's dick

997
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 7: is little in mine aid, you know, Like.

998
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 5: Okay, what's that got to do with you?

999
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: Leave it?

1000
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 5: A fake person of the party, like that's your you

1001
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 5: leave y'all text.

1002
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 7: As girl text, leave me out of it now now

1003
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 7: that I meanute, like, hey, we're talking about me, you know,

1004
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 7: Like does it offend you?

1005
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 5: Though?

1006
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: Yes?

1007
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 5: Offensive?

1008
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: Like are you you? You? Are you?

1009
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: Is it hard for you to get past that because

1010
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: it's something think that you felt like any man, I

1011
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: will as a man, I.

1012
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 2: Just wouldn't want that to constantly be brought up.

1013
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 5: It's an annoyance. I'm over it, you.

1014
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 7: Know, but but when you keep bringing it up, it's

1015
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 7: research Like had it not ever came up again? I

1016
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 7: was like, okay, well that was some stupid stuff that

1017
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 7: like I said, she's gonna give me a dress. I

1018
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 7: haven't brought that up ever again because she ain't saying

1019
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 7: any no more. But when you keep saying something, but

1020
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 7: do you blame her for it? Do you feel like

1021
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 7: he forgave you for that?

1022
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: I feel like.

1023
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 4: Our counselor said, how do you deal with the stresses

1024
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 4: of your life, your show, your job, social media?

1025
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 3: We haven't figured it out yet.

1026
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 4: I think that Eugene wants to believe that he's over it.

1027
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: But I prayed for a man that was sensitive to

1028
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 4: me and not with there anybody else us, and so

1029
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 4: the part that I know and being with him for

1030
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: almost twenty years now, his feelings are hurt. He has

1031
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 4: always looked at himself as being a good guy, especially

1032
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 4: to women, and to be attacked by women is it's

1033
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 4: hard for him because you're not allowed to go off

1034
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 4: on a woman, you know what I mean, Which is

1035
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 4: what concerned me a little bit because when people say

1036
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 4: things like well it's about time, I was like, wow,

1037
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 4: what a double standard, because God forbid the world be

1038
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 4: okay with a man bucking up on a woman at

1039
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 4: any time, because the reality is in a relationship, if

1040
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 4: I'm acting a fool, you don't meet me foolishly, right, Okay,

1041
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: you set the tone of the way, and you wanted

1042
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 4: to go and so had Eugene met me with baby,

1043
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 4: let's go talk on the bag, you know, let me

1044
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 4: something right with you right now.

1045
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: He did try to come at you and and nestle

1046
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: your head.

1047
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 2: We came in the kitchen.

1048
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it was it was it was World War three.

1049
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm talking about before I watched it, before you watched it.

1050
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: That was that an edit before before, No, no, before,

1051
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about before the escalation when you made the comment,

1052
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: what can you get up something along those lines, and

1053
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: you went in the house and he was like, made

1054
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: me get up, and you got up and you walked

1055
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: to her and you said.

1056
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 3: Hey, what the fuck?

1057
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, hey, what the fuck? We was? We

1058
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 5: was both on ten by then?

1059
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: Right, what the fuck?

1060
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: They showed something a little different, But just be clear,

1061
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: let's be clear.

1062
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 4: Even though that happened, okay, I still the show. Well,

1063
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 4: what happened before that? Yes, And so you may not

1064
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 4: have even seen that because you saw me not doing

1065
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 4: Proverbs thirty one.

1066
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: And that's fair.

1067
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 3: Period.

1068
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: No, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair, it's real.

1069
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: I actually listened because I'm not a producer in this moment.

1070
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm a viewer, and I actually receive it. I can

1071
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: actually receive that as a viewer. I was so put

1072
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: off by the way you spoke to him that I

1073
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: missed anything he did and listen, maybe subconsciously, me and

1074
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: the viewers, you know, were like, whatever he did.

1075
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, it doesn't.

1076
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: Matter because of you. And now I understand why, oh

1077
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: my gosh, I have aha moment too.

1078
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: I now understand why it's very difficult for you to

1079
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: be yourself on the show, because you do feel like, yes,

1080
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm giving the world my real life, but I also

1081
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: understand as an outspoken black woman talking an octave higher

1082
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: than most to her husband, I lost the audience on

1083
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: my side.

1084
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: I receive that, I actually receive it, and I.

1085
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: And I respect my audience.

1086
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: I do.

1087
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 3: I love. I love the love I get.

1088
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 4: You know, I look on social media at comments and

1089
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 4: I'm just looking for somebody to say you did that,

1090
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 4: you know, And I shouldn't because when they don't say it,

1091
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 4: you know.

1092
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 3: But I don't want to let my fans down either.

1093
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: You know. It's I I know that I was put

1094
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 4: on this show for a reason, and it wasn't to

1095
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 4: make up bad, fake storylines.

1096
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: It wasn't too you know, gloat, It wasn't to do

1097
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 3: any of that.

1098
00:58:54,800 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 4: It was to show a loving marriage with a real

1099
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 4: mother raising two boys, and.

1100
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 3: The world needed to see it.

1101
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 4: I've always asked before the show started to be in

1102
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 4: like the college show and like the you know, different

1103
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 4: worlds back in the day, because that's what gave me hope,

1104
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 4: and so I really truly want to represent that.

1105
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: But because I'm not scripted and.

1106
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: Now I'm back to being producer, I don't want you

1107
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: to represent that I want you to represent yourself right,

1108
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: And I think this interview is doing a great job

1109
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: as showing the complexities of you because you're not one note.

1110
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: And that's okay, a lot of people aren't.

1111
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 6: Right.

1112
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: You have been in a relationship with this man, Mary,

1113
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: excuse me, for eighteen years, right, and that's that, first

1114
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: of all, I should be applauded. And secondly, it's difficult

1115
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: to also show that on television. And the thing about you,

1116
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: doctor Eugene, that I've always wanted to ask you is listen,

1117
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: when Toya enters the room, your eyes light up right

1118
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: and you obviously, baby, it does. But I wanted to

1119
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: ask you this. I didn't I get a chance to

1120
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: ask you this fully in all last conversation. What do

1121
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: you see in Toya that you wish the world knew?

1122
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 5: She is a very complete woman to me.

1123
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 7: You know, I think she's she's attractive, she's smart, she's

1124
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 7: very caring. I think she's a wonderful friend. She's a

1125
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 7: great mother.

1126
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 5: You know, like I, on paper, this is who you

1127
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 5: want to marry now.

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01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 7: I also, because I the way I grew up, I've

1129
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 7: got a couple of extra things that I like that

1130
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 7: some people some men don't like, you know, I like outspoken,

1131
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 7: you know, I like a little feisty, you know. I

1132
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 7: think you know, I don't like women who were just

1133
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 7: one note. I don't want her to not give me

1134
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 7: pushback if she sees crap.

1135
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 3: He dated somebody like that.

1136
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 5: Sometimes I think she can go overboard.

1137
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 7: But I'm okay with that because I understand the total person,

1138
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 7: you know, But I like some of this stuff.

1139
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 5: Now.

1140
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 7: Our councilor would be like, yeah, well, sometimes when when

1141
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 7: you when it's something that you don't like, how do

1142
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 7: you respond?

1143
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 5: He's like, Okay, yeah, that's the problem.

1144
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: You know what he's said, asked for you want to

1145
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 3: explain about it.

1146
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 4: Well.

1147
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: The thing that the reason why this makes sense to

1148
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: me is because in every relationship, this is my opinion.

1149
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 2: Number one.

1150
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: I want to say, as long as your partner has

1151
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: eighty percent.

1152
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,959
Speaker 2: Of what you want, you've hit the lottery. You really

1153
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: you know, you really have.

1154
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 4: You really have because you're not trying to make you're

1155
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 4: not trying to build him up.

1156
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: But but but her, But not only that. Listen, we

1157
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: live in a world where we know that nothing's perfect.

1158
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: And I do think the problems that you two have,

1159
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: I believe this. It is twenty percent, but it's twenty

1160
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: percent compounded because it's extreme, and I'm gonna say this,

1161
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: and you guys have to say it. I strongly believe

1162
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: if you two weren't on reality television, the twenty percent

1163
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: of your problems would not be as high in as

1164
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: it is, I think, and I think that's fair to say.

1165
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: Honestly.

1166
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 5: The party, the pool party.

1167
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 7: I already told her, had we not been on television,

1168
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 7: had this just been a regular day, we were having

1169
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 7: a pool party. One we wouldn't invited people to house.

1170
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 7: Some of these people wouldn't have been invited, so so

1171
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 7: we would have already been in a more safe space

1172
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 7: to be our full selves.

1173
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 5: If this was not on TV, we would have had

1174
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 5: a wonderful time.

1175
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 7: And had she said those exact same words, well, one,

1176
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 7: I don't even think she.

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01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 5: Would have said it that way, because.

1178
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 3: I said, come on, bleed the dudes, what are you doing?

1179
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 5: I would have looked at it in a totally different light.

1180
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 7: Not you playing because the only reason I thought she

1181
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 7: was playing me was because a couple of people who

1182
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 7: were there, you know, had it just been our friends,

1183
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 7: we you know, we we joning on each other all

1184
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 7: the time, like it wouldn't have been a thing. So

1185
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 7: you know, take it for what it is worth. But

1186
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 7: you know, I think the show does change how you

1187
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 7: react sometimes, oh for sure.

1188
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: And listen, and I want to have some clarity. It

1189
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with being fake or acting and

1190
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: just has listen. This camera is in front of me

1191
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: and the red light is on, right, y'all have y'all

1192
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: know me off camera and I have a big personality,

1193
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: but when this is on, there's a there's a there's.

1194
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: A heightened version of me, you know what I mean.

1195
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: And we're not gonna be talking like this a Houston's

1196
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: eating Hawaiian state not you.

1197
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

1198
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: But but but you know, there's there's a that's true,

1199
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: but there's a there's a heightened version of it. There

1200
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: are people though, Toyas and I do want to have

1201
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: you addressed this. You know, we all know that, like

1202
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: he even said five minutes ago on paper, he pretty

1203
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: much scripted his dreamgirl and you came to life. You

1204
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: didn't mention earlier that God had to tell you like no,

1205
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: this is your guy.

1206
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: Was it hard or.

1207
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: Challenging for you to welcome that that Eugene was your guy?

1208
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 2: Were you looking for something different? Is he your type?

1209
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 3: So I, you know, people say it all the time.

1210
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 4: They're like, I want her vision board and whatever list

1211
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 4: that she wrote for a man. So someone told me

1212
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 4: years ago, write down all the things you need and

1213
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 4: your husband and then you an OUs girl. She needs

1214
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 4: to write it down. She tod write it down. So

1215
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 4: I wrote down my list, and she's like, don't be petty.

1216
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 4: So I never wrote on there that he had to

1217
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 4: be attractive. I thought those were little, petty, small things.

1218
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 4: I wrote that he had to be trustworthy because I

1219
01:04:58,600 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 4: had trust issues.

1220
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 3: I worked that. I wrote that he had to be

1221
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 3: a provider.

1222
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 4: And at the time I was making like fifty grand

1223
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:06,479
Speaker 4: I said, so he at least make.

1224
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 3: A hundred, you know.

1225
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 4: I wrote that he had to be a good father

1226
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 4: and that he could give me twins wrote, oh, it's

1227
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 4: very specific list good And I wrote that he had

1228
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 4: to be sensitive with me and but strong to other people,

1229
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 4: you know. And I wanted him to be consistent. And

1230
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 4: so there was all these things on this list. I

1231
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 4: should I should have brought it and that's yes, it's

1232
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 4: in my bible. And so when God told me he

1233
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 4: was for me. The reason why he had to tell

1234
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 4: me is because I also made a deal.

1235
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 3: With God, and I think that was bad.

1236
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 4: I said, if I'm not married by thirty, can you

1237
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 4: take away the urge? Because I'm okay with being single.

1238
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 4: And at that time, I even wanted to write a book.

1239
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 4: It was going to be called Maximizing my Singleness, because

1240
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 4: I felt like I was tent. You know, I had

1241
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 4: went through so much growing up as a child that

1242
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 4: I just was like, I'm happy, I'm at peace. I

1243
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 4: had my space, I had a great job I was

1244
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 4: working for at the time, Pfizer ne Vartists. I was

1245
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 4: doing my thing, and I didn't want to look like

1246
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 4: I had missed something. And honestly, coming from Detroit, I

1247
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 4: was not in a hurry.

1248
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 2: To get married anyway.

1249
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 3: I was like, nobody's happy. There wasn't any you know,

1250
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

1251
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 4: How in Atlanta we have so many married couples that

1252
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 4: we hang out with in Detroit?

1253
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 3: Do you know one that we can hang out with

1254
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: in Detroit?

1255
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 6: Right?

1256
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 3: Like, it's very difficult, And I just.

1257
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 4: Oh, you cousin, Tony, My god, I would hang out

1258
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 4: with them and your friend and the guy that you

1259
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 4: to schools, so we know.

1260
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: Too, But that wasn't something you saw.

1261
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 4: Marriage was not a thing that I was excited about doing.

1262
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 4: I could care less about it at that time. And

1263
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 4: so when he came around, Eugene was adamant. He was like,

1264
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get this girl, and he was. He did everything,

1265
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 4: and I did everything to chase him away.

1266
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 2: Were you not attracted to him when first mat Yeah,

1267
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: I was.

1268
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 3: Tracked, Yeah, but I wasn't having sex with him.

1269
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 4: I was like, I literally had told him at that time.

1270
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 4: I had went through this whole process of changing toy.

1271
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 4: I wasn't drinking, I wasn't I was saved. I wasn't

1272
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 4: having sex right away, so I was like, I'm not

1273
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 4: going to rush into that with you.

1274
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 3: I just wanted to get to know you.

1275
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 4: And it wasn't until somebody broken my car and took

1276
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 4: my computer, and at the time, I was going back

1277
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 4: to school for my masters, and he was like, I'm

1278
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 4: gonna give you the key to my house and you

1279
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 4: can use my computer anytime.

1280
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: Baby.

1281
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 4: He did every thing right, honey, game, honey, that game

1282
01:07:58,840 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 4: right now?

1283
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: That No, the thing is this, I hope you realize,

1284
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And I'm going to disagree with you. I

1285
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: think it's a beautiful thing that you made a deal

1286
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: with God. Because I made a deal with God about

1287
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: something and it came true. I know what it feels

1288
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: like to say, if it's not meant for me, give

1289
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: me something else. And even career wise, I remember wanting

1290
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: this life that I live right now so badly that

1291
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, because I thought it'd be

1292
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: something a twenty two child, you know, Okay, And I'm like, God,

1293
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm twenty two and I'm not what I need to be.

1294
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: And I said, I have this urge and if it's

1295
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: not meant to be taken away from me, like just

1296
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: take it away.

1297
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 2: I'll do whatever you want me to do. Right. So

1298
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 2: the fact that.

1299
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: God brought you Eugene and thirty at thirty, that's my point.

1300
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 2: At thirty and God knew your stubborn self was yes, was.

1301
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 3: Yes, it's been thirty one. How to say, oh, you're

1302
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 3: not from me?

1303
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 2: But you know, God, I hope you know this. That

1304
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,799
Speaker 2: robbery was God ordained.

1305
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: Yes, because it took that moment for you to realize

1306
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: I could be missing something so great.

1307
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 3: Yes that.

1308
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm too busy trying to you know, make sure that

1309
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: everything's whatever, checking the box.

1310
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 2: But my point in saying all of that to you

1311
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: is this, eighteen.

1312
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: Years later, he is still that guy that will give

1313
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 1: you the key to many houses. Yes, to make sure

1314
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: that you have something to look.

1315
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 3: At and tell me you figured out. I'm coming with you. Yes,

1316
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 3: what vacation are we going on? Toya? I want to

1317
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 3: go wherever you want to go?

1318
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1319
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 3: You know what car? You need, toy, you go get it.

1320
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 4: You know, I'm good, the boys good. What they need,

1321
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 4: you can handle it. I'm not worried about the house

1322
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 4: because you got it.

1323
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 3: That's him. Yeah.

1324
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Speaker 4: So I recognize that I have a very good blessing

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01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 4: and Eugene, and I'm grateful for that, you know. And

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01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:13,799
Speaker 4: that's the only reason why I have such a conviction

1327
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 4: when i'm when I do wrong by him, you know,

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01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 4: because God give it, but he can take away, you know.

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01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 4: And I know that's not what he wants, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I know that sometimes I can be self destructive,

1331
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 4: you know, and I receive that.

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Speaker 2: And.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying not to be that way at fifty.

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Speaker 4: Damn, I'm about to be fifty, you know, girl, Like

1335
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 4: I can't keep doing that, you know, there's no chaos

1336
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 4: here as the other people like to say, you know,

1337
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 4: but the people that will know me would love to

1338
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 4: call it that. The people that know and love us

1339
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 4: will say things like someone said, this is the couple

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01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 4: I would love to be. You know, I need a

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01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 4: man that's going to uplift and support and a woman

1342
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 4: that he feels so safe that he doesn't even blink twice.

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01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 4: I just.

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01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 3: I'm just a work in progress.

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01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: And that's fair. But to me, that's the beauty of life,

1346
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: right is. I don't want to live a life where

1347
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm stagnant because I know everything.

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01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,919
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I receive.

1349
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 1: God knows that some things be like God, I didn't

1350
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: need that lesson, but I got you, bro. But my

1351
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: point is you should be honored that Number one, you

1352
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: get to live a life where you're constantly learning and growing.

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01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: Yes, and you too are soulmates. You guys really are.

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01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: You guys really are.

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01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: And I don't want anything to disrupt this union that

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01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: is God ordained. Because there's people talk about the Sierra prayer,

1357
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: but we all want the toilet prayer.

1358
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: And we want the Eugene sketch.

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01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So my last question is this.

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01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 2: When it comes to marriage.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's tons of people doctor Eugene Atoya who

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01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: are disconnected. And you know there's people, I'm sure you

1363
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: know tons of them who use the D word divorce.

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01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen and I tell the world this

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01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: all the time. My favorite seeing in the history of

1366
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: this show is when all of y'all rallied behind some

1367
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: moan and see cell to say, no, we're gonna fix this.

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01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: But what advice do you give couples who feel like

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01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: we've been together for X amount of years and you know,

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01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: do we throw in the towel?

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Speaker 7: I think you just have to every day choose your partner.

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Speaker 7: I mean there's gonna be hard days. I mean that's

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01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 7: just the reality of it. Like it would be I

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01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 7: guess some utopia if we never had an argument, But

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01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 7: that's just not realistic.

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01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,959
Speaker 5: You know, like even best of friends get in arguments.

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01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 7: You know, So if you're gonna be with somebody for

1378
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 7: the long term, it's gonna be out external factors that

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01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 7: come in.

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01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 5: It's going to mess you all up.

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01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 7: It's going to be internal stuff, mess you up, your past,

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01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 7: all kinds of stuff. But as long as you each

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01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 7: day choose, like I'm choosing her, you know, and then

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01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 7: you work through those issues like you can.

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01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 5: You know, you just got to keep choosing, you know.

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01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 4: I think for me, the first question I would ask

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01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 4: is do you still love each other?

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01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 5: Not like them, love right?

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01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 4: And you know, because if you are still in love

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01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 4: with someone, then you can take the next step, which

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01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 4: is learning to respect that person again. And I think

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01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 4: sometimes when we get in the relationships, we get so

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01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 4: comfortable with each other that we don't even realize that

1394
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 4: we're disrespecting each other and that.

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01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 2: We're not.

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01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 4: Uplifting each other and the way we need or or

1397
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 4: I'm not speaking to the man I need them to

1398
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 4: be as I'm speaking to that other person that I'm

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01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 4: dealing without that outside.

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01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 7: Can I interject one thing, this is the protector of me,

1401
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 7: like protecting my wife. I just hate this notion that

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01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 7: Toy is just doing something to Eugene all the time.

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01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 7: Like I didn't comment earlier, it was like, well, good

1404
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 7: thing he stood up for himself this time. Like, first

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01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 7: of all, do I not push back on a lot

1406
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 7: of stuff, like you have to tell the world I'm

1407
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 7: not There are days I am not the easiest person

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 7: to get along with. I know that but some of

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01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 7: my some of my pushing buttons isn't so much, uh

1410
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 7: in an aggressive way. Sometimes it's not hearing her, I know,

1411
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 7: not hearing her. You have saped the door before you do.

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 3: Yes, he will yell throughout the house.

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01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, in my opinion, Yeah, I parents argue, gets going,

1414
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 8: what's your Yeah, we're both fire science.

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01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 6: Yes.

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01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 4: And so once he is lit, Eugene, I'm like, stop

1417
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 4: texting me.

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01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 7: I'm going to if I think I've been wrong, I'm

1419
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 7: going to keep explaining and defending where I'm right. Yes, yes,

1420
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 7: over and so I get it, you know, but nobody say, God.

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01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 3: Forbid me tell this doctor.

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01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 4: You know he's wrong in some way when every day

1423
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 4: he goes to work and he's right.

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01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's not true. That's okay, you can said that.

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01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 2: Well I was right. I think I think.

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01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: I think every day he goes to work, he he.

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01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 2: He's on a mission to get the answer.

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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 4: And the reality is this, So this is the part

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01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 4: he's really leaving out and I really want And I

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01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 4: talked to Carlos about it, and he said, well, can

1432
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 4: can you talk about that? And I said, yes, there

1433
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 4: there talk about pellas.

1434
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 3: And be honest, like, which part.

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01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 5: How men are you know you're about to say.

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01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 3: Right, because then you know the word I'm going to use.

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01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 5: I think men and women.

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01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 7: Once you hit about thirty five forty are testosterone deficient.

1439
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 7: Testosterone Actually a lot of people think testosterone is this

1440
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 7: aggressive hormone. It actually makes people nicer, it calms people down,

1441
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 7: and I think a lot of I think the divorce

1442
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 7: rate in this country, you know, probably is so high

1443
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 7: in people's late forties early fifties, is because you have

1444
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 7: hormone deficiencies that you don't realize, and you're thinking that

1445
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 7: every problem is your spouse. They're thinking every problem is you,

1446
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 7: and y'all go you separate. I think I am a

1447
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 7: much happier person when my testosterone level is appropriate, and.

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01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 3: So from your own experience.

1449
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 4: He he didn't know that he had a hormone and

1450
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 4: back balance. I think I started realizing that when we

1451
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 4: had this one scene a couple of seasons ago and

1452
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 4: I asked him, how can.

1453
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:09,919
Speaker 3: We make you happy? What are your hobbies?

1454
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 4: And he was like, I don't know, I don't And

1455
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 4: he really started realizing that he was just there like

1456
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,879
Speaker 4: he wasn't his happy, go lucky fun self anymore.

1457
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 3: He had no energy to do anything. And then when.

1458
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 4: He discovered this whole testosterone imbalance and finally went to

1459
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 4: the doctor, they started trying different things on him like

1460
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 4: they would do with a woman who's going through mentalpause.

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01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,759
Speaker 4: And it's some imbalances that happened, just like with KWAHD

1462
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 4: And Kane said, well she was getting a shot. Your

1463
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 4: hormones be raging, and so I was dealing with a

1464
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 4: lot of hormones with my husband. That all of that,

1465
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 4: and so we for years when people were like, well

1466
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 4: she doesn't want to be married, it was because I

1467
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 4: couldn't understand who this person was, you know, I was like,

1468
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 4: does he.

1469
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: Want to be married?

1470
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 4: Like we both were like how do we fix this?

1471
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 3: Like what's wrong?

1472
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 4: And so now that my husband has this amazing clinic

1473
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 4: Recharged Wellness, he is literally educating men and helping them

1474
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 4: to get to that place. Because he even said that

1475
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 4: he thinks that his parents would have still been in

1476
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 4: a happy place had his father known, you know, and

1477
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 4: like I said, I don't want to tell your story.

1478
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 1: No, that's big, and that's that's part of your wellness.

1479
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: So how can people reach out to you to gain

1480
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: information and stuff?

1481
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 2: From that.

1482
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 5: So if you go to www.

1483
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 7: Dot Recharge Wellness Health, you can have a lot of

1484
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 7: information there. That's where you can make appointments. I'm a

1485
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 7: concierge service, so I only take a certain amount of people.

1486
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 7: But if you make an appointment, there would be like

1487
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 7: a thirty minute time slot where we get on the

1488
01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 7: phone and we figure out what we need to do.

1489
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 3: I mean, look at how different is his weight loss

1490
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 3: is down?

1491
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 2: You know it's between him and Steve.

1492
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 3: No competition, my man, don't have to put on that's

1493
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 3: right here.

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01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: No, we love you, Jane. Listen, I will say this.

1495
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: I want to listen. You know you're my sister in

1496
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: real life.

1497
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 2: I want to thank you for your brunt ability.

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01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: You know, I really, I really do, I really do,

1499
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: because I know it's been tough for you and and

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01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: like you said, we've had conversations off off camp on camera,

1501
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: but you know, in our real life.

1502
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 2: And I was so happy to get the two of you.

1503
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 4: Because I was scared, you know, I was like, oh,

1504
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 4: the world to judge me anymore?

1505
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 2: Id you Carlos? And I said, come on my podcast,

1506
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 2: we'll talk about it.

1507
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: Because listen, I know you're not one no, but I

1508
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 1: also know the power of this medium, which is the podcast,

1509
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: to be able to just have you, you know, just

1510
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: speak on things that you know the world is going

1511
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 1: to be able to view. And I know that when

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01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 1: it comes to the two of you, you two are

1513
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: meant to be together. And all couples go through their stuff,

1514
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: but a lot of them aren't on TV broadcasting it.

1515
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,839
Speaker 1: And as somebody who produces television and works on shows

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01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:16,600
Speaker 1: about love and marriage pun intended back March seventh, what

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01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: I will say is you two are the epitome of

1518
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,839
Speaker 1: black excellence and black couple goals as well.

1519
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 2: And I want to applaud the two of.

1520
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,839
Speaker 1: You for being so honest and brunnabo and sorry, ladies,

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01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: he's taken all right. Marrition Medicine airs every Sunday, nine

1522
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: o'clock a Central on Bravo, and make sure to catch

1523
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: it on Peacock on Mondays. I've said it for the

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01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: past ten years before I have this microphone. It is

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01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: the best show on Bravo, the best show on Bravo,

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01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: and this one is clocked in every episode. Thank you, guys,

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01:20:55,320 --> 01:21:03,839
Speaker 1: Thank you Yes. Reality with the King is executive produced

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01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 1: by me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz and a partnership.

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01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 2: With the Lack Effect Network.

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01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at

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Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore