1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: We're hitting the inside Scoup. 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: It's presented by Game Changer, the number one youth sports 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: app here is FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. So, Ken, Wow, 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: that's a great view set the scene of where you're 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: at and what to expect this weekend. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: I love that. 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: I'm an Oracle Park and we're getting ready for the 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: second game of the Yankees Giant series. I've got the 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: Fox game tomorrow, so I'm talking to people getting ready 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: for that, and it is an amazingly beautiful day in 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: the day area. It's like, I don't know, eighty degrees maybe, 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: and it's just unusually warm for this time of year, 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: and people are. 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 4: Lovingly wait, wait till the game, Ken, Yeah, wait till 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 4: the game. Make sure you have your sweater on, because 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 4: people who haven't been to San Francisco it's hot in 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 4: BP and you come out and you're like, holy crap. 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 4: But the Yankees came out hot. Are the Giants gonna 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 4: be able to come out hot in game two? Just 20 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 4: like the weather changes? 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know, they're facing camp slip. 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: And this guy we saw him in the playoffs last year, 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: we saw him down the stretch for the Yankees. 24 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 5: Really the whole year. 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: He is special and Yankees you're expecting big things from him. 26 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 5: He could do their first home grown ace in a while. 27 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: And I don't know if the Giants are going to 28 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: be how they're going to handle him today. Robbie Ray's 29 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: going for the Giants. Obviously, it's baseball. Anything can happen. 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of great pictures already, get kind 31 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: of beating around a little bit. 32 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 5: So who knows? 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: Hey, Ken, question for you while you're out in San Francisco. 34 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: The Giants had this dynasty run right where they won 35 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: three titles in five years. What's the viewpoint right now 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: from San Francisco over to La It's the one team 37 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: we haven't gotten to today. Of course, they had like 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: all the popping circumstance, Will Farrell driving around, Freddie Freeman 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: and Miguel Rojas and they win eight too. So I 40 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: don't know what would you use? Is there is there jealousy? 41 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: Is there envy? Or they're like, hey, they're having their run. 42 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: We had ours not too long ago. 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: I don't know that they've worried so much about the 44 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: Dodgers as they are themselves, Scott and they should be 45 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: worried about themselves. They've had four straight years where they've 46 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 3: been right around five hundred, maybe two games over, one 47 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: game under three hundred whatever. It's been that kind of 48 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 3: mediocre stretch for them. And what they're trying to do 49 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: is get back to what you were talking about, the 50 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: three titles in five years, twelve, I'm sorry, twenty ten, twelve, fourteen, 51 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: hard to do, hard to do, and you've got a 52 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: behamoth like the Dodgers in your division. But at the 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: same time, they just need to get themselves straight. 54 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 5: They've got a. 55 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: New manager, we all know that, Tony Vaitelo. They brought 56 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: in a number of players as well over the last 57 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: twelve months, starting with Devers. 58 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 5: We'll see how it plays out. 59 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: But they are just trying to be an above average 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: team again, that's what they have not been some time, Franklin. 61 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: And the one thing I will give them credit, there's 62 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: a lot more star power names that you know right 63 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: with the Giants, they've done a nice job of that 64 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: in the division. We haven't gotten to this on the 65 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: show either, and wanted to get your take since you 66 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: were part of the article in The Athletic where we 67 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: at with the potential Padres sale looks like they're going 68 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 2: to sell for a healthy number. 69 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 5: Very healthy number. 70 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: And the report that we had the other day Dennis 71 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: lenn and I was that they are looking possibly at 72 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 3: three point five billion. It's a billion over the previous record, 73 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: which was for the New York Mets. 74 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 5: This is the San Diego Padres. 75 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 3: Now you might ask, well, why is this happening, Why 76 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: this demand sudden in for the Padres. 77 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 5: A couple of things, one and many. Most of all, 78 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 5: there are four groups here. 79 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: Most of them have California roots in some fashion or another, 80 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: and you're not seeing California teams come up for sale, 81 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: So that's a rare thing. And obviously California is a 82 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: desirable place. San Diego is a desirable market with the 83 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: beautiful ballpark. But the Padres also deserve credit for putting 84 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: themselves in this position. 85 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 5: Where they are not clearly a. 86 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: Small market team in terms of at least their attendance 87 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: revenue anymore. 88 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 5: TV's a different story. 89 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: It's a problem all its own, but by the late 90 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: Peter side, and they're spending all the money that he 91 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: did and committing to. 92 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 5: The players that he did. It has transformed the franchise. 93 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: It has elevated them. 94 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,559 Speaker 3: Now you might ask, well, why can't other small market 95 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: teams do this? 96 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 5: And that's a fair question. But MLB people will. 97 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: Say Cleveland their owner, Cincinnati their owner. 98 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh, et cetera. 99 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: Those guys do not have the money that Peter Sidler did. 100 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 5: They can't operate by that. 101 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: That might be true, but it also might be true 102 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: that maybe baseball needs some new owners and Cleveland's getting one. 103 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: Cleveland's gonna have David Blitzer there at some point soon. 104 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: And it's a real interesting question too, Scott, as we 105 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: get into the CBA year, the labor year right now, 106 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: and once this deal goes down, don't say the numbers 107 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: three point two, a, three point zero. 108 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 5: Whatever number's gonna be. It's gonna be about three it 109 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 5: looks like. Then I'm sure people on the. 110 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: Union side will say, well, look, this demonstrates how healthy 111 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: the sport is. Team selling for three million in that market, 112 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: come on. 113 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 5: And then I'm sure owners will say it doesn't solve 114 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 5: any of the competitive issues. This is a unique outlier 115 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 5: type of situation. 116 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: And then will be the usual disagreement as. 117 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 5: There always seems to d between these parties. 118 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 6: Yes, as usual, that'll be interesting. Like you said, I 119 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 6: want to talk about the rookies first game of the 120 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 6: year for some of these guys, what's one guy that 121 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 6: stood out to you where you could see this trickle 122 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 6: effect of him taking off and being that rookie of 123 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 6: the year. 124 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: McGonagall for sure, Todd and Weather home posts. Now it's 125 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 3: one game. I don't have to tell you, guys, it's 126 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: just one game. But McGonagall hit offspring. What he does 127 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: is hit goes four to five yesterday, first picks double 128 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: right off the bat. 129 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 5: There's major league debut this kid. I've said this and 130 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 5: I believe it. 131 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: If he is what we saw or some similarly with 132 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: what we've seen, that's a different team all of a sudden. 133 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: It's a team with a more dynamic confidence and when 134 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: you put that. 135 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: Together with their pitchings. 136 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: I've got Valdez going today, it's a pretty impressing maybe 137 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: even a World Series type club Weather all the sorts 138 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: in a different situation with the big home run of today's. 139 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 5: The Cardinals are rebuilding and he's getting the chants with. 140 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: Them, and for that reason alone, I kind of like 141 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 3: as looking into your chances because they're going to play 142 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: and we'll see how it turns out. There are a 143 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: number of tremendous rookies this year, especially, I would say, 144 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: in the National League, and we haven't even seen kind 145 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 3: of Griffin yet. He's gonna start the We're in TRIPAA, 146 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: so it's a really exciting time to the sport seeing 147 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 3: these guys come to you the league. 148 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 4: Right now, right we're gonna hit your twelve, your twelve 149 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 4: intriguing storylines. Which of those twelve do you feel like 150 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 4: are your favorite? You have to choose a favorite, But 151 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 4: which of the twelve do you feel like super ce 152 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: the other ones? 153 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 5: That's a good question. Eric I would. 154 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: Say the labor one that I wrote was my favorite, 155 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: only because he pointed out something that we've come to 156 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: simply not expect anymore. That's the possibility of a CBA 157 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: happening during the season or shortly thereafter before the expiration 158 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: of the agreement. 159 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 5: And what I referred back to was my first year 160 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 5: at Box two thousand and six, and that year. 161 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: I got a call from one of our executives during 162 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: the World Series and he said, get ready, there's an 163 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: announcement imminent and we're gonna have a CBA announced tonight, 164 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to interview the commissioner, Bud Selig, 165 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: and the editing union don fear on the field. So 166 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: that did come to pass. It was like October twenty fourth, 167 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: and my goodness, we don't expect anything like that this year. 168 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 5: Rob Bamford has already. 169 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: Said he'd use the lockout as a strategic foe in negotiations. 170 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 5: So I was just pointing out in that, but it 171 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 5: doesn't have to be this way. 172 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: Even though we all expect it to be this win, 173 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: we're primed for it to be. 174 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: This win, which will be the least likely to be 175 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: repeated if it happens this year. The Dodgers three peat 176 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: or the Tarik Schooble three peat. Those were two of 177 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: your other intriguing storylines from the article. 178 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: I would say both unlikely, but I would go with 179 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: schoolball actually, and I know everybody thinks, oh my gosh, 180 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: the Dodgers are gonna win. 181 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 5: They win every year. 182 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: They don't win every year. This is a relatively recent phenomenon, 183 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: and Schooble, as we saw again yesterday, remains one of 184 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: the dominant pickers in the sports, and a third straight 185 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: side young should be within his reach now. 186 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 5: Garret Crochet is going to be right there with him. 187 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Again. 188 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 5: You might see someone else emerge. 189 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: But I kind of like School's chances been than I 190 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: like the Dodgers because in the playoffs. I know it 191 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: hasn't happened in the last two years, but he came 192 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: close to happening in the playoffs, and you can get upset. 193 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 5: Things can happen, you can get beat. 194 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very close if you look at that 195 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: Blue Jays series and how close they were to winning 196 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: multiple times. 197 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: Ken, thank you. 198 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: Enjoy it out there the beautiful day, and then stay 199 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: warm at night and have a great weekend. We'll look 200 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: forward to you on Fox on Saturday. 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Last year during the 237 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: trade deadline, so the Yankees got word that Paul Schmes 238 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: might be interested in joining their party when he's a 239 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: free agent. 240 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: So they were like, let's try to make this an 241 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: earlier or a deal. 242 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: They apparently called the pirates, John Hayman of The Post said, 243 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: and were willing to throw their top four prospects their way, 244 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: or four of their top prospects. 245 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: We didn't get the exact names. 246 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: But if you look at some of the top prospects 247 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: on their list at the time, George Lombard Junior, who 248 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: could be the shortstop of the future for the Yanks. 249 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: Spencer Jones, who's been talked about a ton. He's iron 250 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: judge size and is using with potential if he limits 251 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: the swing and miss Carlos Lagrange or however you say, 252 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: a Todd Father, I'll learn it once he gets to 253 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: the show. But he stole the show, Lene, He sold 254 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: the show in spring training. 255 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: He looks like a. 256 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: Dominant, dominant arm that's coming soon for the Yanks. Cam 257 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: Schlitler was also on that list at the time, so 258 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: it could have been quite a pretty package for the Pirates. 259 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: But they didn't even listen. 260 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: They didn't even want to hear Todd father what the 261 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: Yanks had to say because of how damn good Paul 262 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: Skeens is and what he means to the franchise. I 263 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: love the timing how this comes out. You know, right 264 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: on opening day Skeens gets lit up a little bit, 265 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: only partially his faults not hard contact and some miscues 266 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: in the outfield by O'Neil Cruz. 267 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: But your thoughts on the Yankees giving into the good. 268 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: Old college try to get the best picture in the 269 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: National League. 270 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 6: You guys know me very well when it comes to trades. 271 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 6: I love a guy that's been established. I love a 272 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 6: guy even though it's been what a cup of tea, 273 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 6: as they'd like to say, a cup of coffee for him. 274 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 6: He's the top picture, one of the top pictures in 275 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 6: baseball one maybe two. This guy is incredible. I would 276 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 6: get rid of all the prospects for a guy like this, 277 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 6: you know how I am. I would do that in 278 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 6: a heartbeat. I think it's a great try. I think 279 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 6: it is Ultimately it didn't work out, But I like 280 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 6: that they're trying. I do. I do let a guy 281 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 6: like George Lombard Junior if he was one of them 282 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 6: to go prosper if with another team, I don't know, 283 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 6: trade I would have in another prospect to get them, 284 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 6: if you want the truth. So for me, the fact 285 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 6: that they didn't want to even hear it that that 286 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 6: that doesn't sit well with me because you always want 287 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 6: to hear somebody out. But again, prospects their prospects for 288 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 6: a reason. For now, trade them all and get a 289 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 6: superstar and Paul Skins throw somebody else in there. I 290 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 6: I love everything about that. 291 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the pirates could get to a point 292 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: crats where they do have to trade schemes. Not yet, 293 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 2: it's too soon. Yeah, will you think? Yeah? 294 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: I tend to. 295 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: Agree because I think what will happen is what you think. 296 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I do. 297 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: I think they will trade him, But I don't think 298 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: they're going to trade him ntil maximum two years away 299 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: from free agency totally. Yes, even more likely probably a 300 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: year away from free agency, because they're going to do 301 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: everything they can to throw the bag at him and 302 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: see if he'll bite at it. Right, and just find 303 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: out what's the number. I mean, at this point, already 304 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: at that you think already late, we're already at the 305 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 2: stage where. 306 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: We're talking on an extension. What a number in the fours. 307 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: It's got to be the biggest contract of all time. 308 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: I don't care that you're hitting free agency still a 309 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: few years from now. 310 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: It's it's big, dude. It's at least deep into the threes. 311 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: It's deep into the threes. But we've never even gotten 312 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: into the twos for a contract extension of a pre 313 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: arb pitcher. So if that's what we're talking about, like, 314 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 4: I can't say it's going to be fours, and I 315 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 4: don't think he accepts anything less than a four. Like, 316 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: to me, this isn't this isn't necessarily a discussion about 317 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 4: Paul Skene's you know, future extension worth. It's about the 318 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 4: fact that can the pirates afford what he's going to 319 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: get in arbitration. He's going to break records each three 320 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 4: years that he's going to be there. So to me, 321 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: the pirates have this year and next year, I think 322 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 4: they'd be willing to probably pay him whatever the max 323 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: a pitcher has ever gotten. And then add six million 324 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: to it for his first year of arbitrary Like it's 325 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: just it's gonna be a crazy, crazy discussion. And so 326 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: to say you would get four prospects back from it, 327 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: one of those four guys is in the big leagues 328 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: this year. I don't care where you think, Spencer Jones 329 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: or Legranghey or or you know, Lombard Junior is gonna 330 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 4: be like, there's one dude that's in the big leagues 331 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 4: right now, Like that's and you're giving up a It's 332 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: a great move by the by the Yankees. I heard 333 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: Charlie Manuel. I've said it before on the show. When 334 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 4: John Carlos Stanton first got caught up to the big leagues. 335 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: A reporter because Charlie Manuel loves Homers. He goes the 336 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: reporter goes, hey, who would you trade for John Carlos Stanton? 337 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: He goes, what, Well, I would trade. I would trade 338 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 4: Roy Holliday. I would trade koloop Lee too, Like who 339 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 4: else do they want? Like I want Paul Skeens. Is 340 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: that guy you give up the farm? Because all of 341 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: a sudden, you're winning game one of every every playoff 342 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 4: series or game two if Cole Hamil's pitches game one. 343 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: I mean. 344 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: Garrek Cole, Garret Cole pitches game. 345 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 6: One and and think of that, Just think of that, 346 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 6: Skemes Cole, freed rodn I'll missing one, Luis who else? 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They could have got twenty prospects 371 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 6: for this dude. Angels messed up. Pirates better not mess 372 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 6: this one up. 373 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 5: Yep. 374 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm with you, guys. I just think it's too soon. 375 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: So I think them hanging up the phone now is okay? 376 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: Them hanging up the phone when he's two years out 377 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: of free agency and if he has not agreed to 378 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: anything yet at that point, it's not okay. 379 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: And I think, no. 380 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: Matter what happens, even if the Pirates have a better 381 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: year this year and eventually Connor Griffin comes up and 382 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: he shines, there is a trust issue, there's going to 383 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: be a trust issue based on the past ten years. 384 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: Right. 385 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: It's not how they've treated Paul. They're treating him great. 386 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: It's just how the team has performed and how they've 387 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: spent their resources over the past ten years. And when 388 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: you look around the League and your Paul and he's 389 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: not stupid and all he I don't want to say 390 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 2: all he cares about is winning. But he's one of 391 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: those dogs, right, Like, look at him and the emotion 392 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: that he had in the World Baseball Classic versus when 393 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 2: he found out he won his. 394 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: First award in the Biggs. 395 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: Right, there is your difference between what he cares about 396 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: and what is a little lower on the totem pole. 397 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 2: So if you're him Kratz and you're thinking about your 398 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: brain long term, you have to get over the hump, 399 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: even if the number is big, and say, do I 400 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: trust this team is going to put winning pieces around 401 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 2: me so I can consistently get that feeling, that adrenaline 402 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 2: rush in the postseason with the Pirates. That's the thing 403 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: he has to think about. All he has to do 404 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: is look over to Anaheim and look at Mike Traft's career, 405 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: and he's barely touched the playoffs. You know the money's 406 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: going to be close enough, right if he takes an 407 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: extension with the Pirates now versus waiting or saying, hey, 408 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: I'm not going to take something, so I'm going to 409 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: get traded, Chances are you're going to end up with 410 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: a team that's going to put you in a better 411 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: position to win on a yearly basis. 412 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't. 413 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: See I don't see any I don't see any amount 414 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: of money that is going to be able to line 415 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: up where Paul Skeins gets his value to stay and 416 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 4: not win, or he or the pirates are like, hey, 417 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 4: you know what, we're definitely going to do this, Like 418 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 4: they pushed the one hundred million dollar limit and then 419 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 4: it was like, oh, that's it, one hundred million. We're good, 420 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: We're over that, done Ski. 421 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: You know. 422 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: I just think I think if there's a chance to 423 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 4: win there, Paul Skeins does want to win. 424 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: There. 425 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 4: He said it, And it doesn't matter what he said 426 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 4: like oh we'd love to play for the Yankees. No, 427 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 4: all he means is he'd love to win. And if 428 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 4: winning is the most important thing, a few million here 429 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 4: and there, you're always going to make more in free 430 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 4: agency and this dude, that's that's where he's going to go. 431 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 4: And I don't see him. I don't see him, excepted 432 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: accepting any extension where they both meet up. 433 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 2: Last point here, I want to make sure this is 434 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: like my point is clear here. Those four players we 435 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 2: mentioned for Paul Skins, you take it every day of 436 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: the week, Todd Father. There were many people online that 437 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: were trying to go through the accolades for the prospects 438 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: and then also what Schlitler has done in his short 439 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: time in the big leagues. 440 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry. No, Well, if you're on. 441 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: That side of the argument with a few years of 442 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: schemes too, right, you want to have an argument like 443 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: if they want to trade him at the deadline on 444 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: his free agent year and they're asking for this, cool, 445 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: we can have that conversation. 446 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: But with many years. 447 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 2: Of control over Paul Skins, top two pitcher in the Biggs, 448 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: you never get that opportunity. 449 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: You take that every damn day of the week. Is 450 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: there a line? 451 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: Sure, you're not going to empty at your major league club, 452 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: but three prospects and a promising pitcher for a top 453 00:20:59,000 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 2: two in the Biggs? 454 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: Mm hmm I and. 455 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 6: And if I'm gonna, if I'm gonna Detroit Tigers, I 456 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 6: would have Now that I know I'm calling the Yankees. Hey, 457 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 6: I got schoobl over here. Let's talk. Let's talk. I mean, listen, 458 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 6: it's schemes are scooball. I don't see why there couldn't 459 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 6: be another conversation with them too. 460 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 4: I mean, Tigers are gonna be it. I think that's 461 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 4: that's gonna be the difference. But to me, when the 462 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: first Skien stuff first came out, we didn't hear about 463 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: this stuff. But I talked to a scout of a 464 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 4: team that wanted Scheens, which is just any team that 465 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 4: is in the playoffs. Every team would want Skiens. So 466 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: that we can put that to rest. It's not just 467 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 4: the Yankees, he said, it's not hard for a team 468 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: that wants schemes like that's a no brainer. It's because 469 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: if he gets hurt or something like that happens, like 470 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 4: you can't control that kind of stuff. It's the team. 471 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 4: It's the Pirates coming back. You can't miss you can't 472 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: miss on that because look at what happened, Look at 473 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 4: what happened with the Gnats. The Nats got rid of 474 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 4: Wan Soto with two plus years to go because he 475 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: wouldn't sign. He wouldn't sign the extension for four hundred 476 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 4: and fifteen million, and they got back Mackenzie Gore from 477 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 4: the padres, cj Abrams, James Wood and Haslin too. So, 478 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 4: dudes that are all in the big leaders, one guy 479 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 4: that's still in the minor leagues, and now the Nats 480 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 4: haven't won at all from at all. From that, they 481 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 4: got three prominent big leaders on their team, and now 482 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: they flipped Mackenzie Gore over. So you can't miss it 483 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 4: because you're not just getting players for that player. You're 484 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 4: getting players to make your organization better so that you 485 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: can ultimately win. So the pressure is on the team 486 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 4: that's getting all the prospects back. You can't screw that up. 487 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 4: So it's way more work for them.