1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: John Schmilk Michael lies in with you on this new 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: episode of the Giants Hubtle Podcast. Today's guest is Cameron Fleming, 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: free agent acquisition for the Giants, pending a physical offensive tackle. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: We'll get the camera in a moment, but first want 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: to remind you where you can find the Giants Subtle 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Podcast on the Giants Mobile app, on Giants dot com, 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: slash Podcast, and then all your favorite podcast platforms. Make 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: sure you find us and subscribe and make us part 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: of your feed. Now let's get to Cameron Fleming. Alright, Cameron, 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: I guess the best place to start is here. Obviously, 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: your connection to the Giants is to their offensive coordinator 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett offensive line coach Mark Colombo. How much was 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: their presence a factor in your deciding to come to 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: the Giants in free agency? Um? I think it was 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: a big fat there. I mean, you're talking about two 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: coaches that I've worked with for the past two years. 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: I mean, they know exactly what what I can do, 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: and um, they definitely believe in me enough to try 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: to get me with them when they when they went 20 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: to the Giants. Do you like plans for coach Colombo? Um? Yeah, 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: I love playing for coach Columbia. I wouldn't think he's 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: in your face. He's just he's excited about football every day. 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean he comes in with that energy, that that 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: big Boston accent, you know, Um, a lot of passion 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: coming out of him. What is it about his coaching 26 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: style in terms of trying to teach not just you know, 27 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: that intensity, but also that technique that you think makes 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: him a good coach? Cameron Um, I mean, I think 29 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: he has a really good focusing technique and he spends 30 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: a lot of time workshopping us is I mean in 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: our and I'll running pass that. You know, he does 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: a really good job of fine twoing it. We watch 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: a lot of individual film too to make sure that 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: our techniques to UM where it should be. How much 35 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: is the fact that he played the position and is 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: a former player and frankly is so physically imposing you 37 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: think kind of lends to him being a good offensive 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: wint coach. I mean, yeah, I think him playing he 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: knows exactly what it takes to surviving this league. He 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: played along time and yeah he uh he obviously picked 41 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: a few things up in his tims last years playing 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: UM professional football, So I think he has a he 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: has a knowledge on both sides that really helps. And 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: you also have spent four years in New England when 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: Joe Judge was there. Uh, how much interaction did you 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: have with Joe And what do you remember about him there? Um? 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: I remember he's another high energy guy. Um. I mean 48 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: I remember during the team meetings he used to he 49 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: used the coach of the tackling drills and and go 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: through it. And you just had always had so much energy. 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: And obviously I played a very very little bit of 52 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: special team just on the field goal team. But um, 53 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm excited h to be working for him now. 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: Can you played mostly left tackle in Dallas? You played 55 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: mostly right tackle when you were in New England. Are 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: you more comfortable playing either side? Uh? I mean I 57 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: would say in my football career played a right tackle, 58 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: but I think that was really really made me get 59 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: comfortable on the left. I think when I went in there, 60 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: they made sure that I could I could hold my 61 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: home on the left. So I feel comfortable on either side. 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter to me. Can you play in 63 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: three Super Bowls with New England and won two of them? 64 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: And I find it interesting that the Patriots starting tackles 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty two, Nick's soldier and you are 66 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: now both with the Giants. Um, well you remember that 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: date as a teammate and uh excited to be back 68 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: with Nate. Oh yeah, Um makes a great team mate. 69 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: He's a he's a great leader, he's um, he's able 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: to derive the truth. Is one of the nicest guys 71 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: you'll you'll meet. And I'm excited to be back with him. 72 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: What did you learn playing in those kind of high 73 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: leverage game situations like you did with the Patriots? Um? 74 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: I think you think the thing that you learn is 75 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: just how to control your emotion and that there's no 76 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: difference between really when you get down to the preseason 77 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: game and uh and the Super Bowl. I mean, it's 78 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: all just football and football. You just gotta take the 79 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: pressure off and didn't do what you're supposed to do. Um. 80 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: You know when I asked you, I don't know that 81 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: I've ever come a class a player who majored in 82 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: aeronautics and astronautics before as you did. Um at Chancellor? 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: What kind of uh you have to make a career 84 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: out of that? You want to be an astronaut? Um, 85 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: I did want to be an astronaut at one point. 86 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a little too tall for the stay show. 87 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: But um, I don't. I don't know if I can 88 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: pursue a career and is I've been I've been in 89 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: football way too long. I don't. I have to go 90 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: back to school then relearn a lot of the equations 91 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: in the math and all the stuff that that I 92 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: knew six years ago. But it's must have made it 93 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: sounds like it would be a very fun and challenging major. 94 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: I mean certainly not a run in the mill in major. Um. Yeah, 95 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: it was definitely interesting. I mean when you're talking about 96 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: how things moved through space, airplanes, how to build rockets, 97 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: how the system works, like, it's all extremely interesting stuff. 98 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean very very technically compliment complicated and difficult, but 99 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was a joy to learn about. 100 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: Oh this football stuff that's easy for you then, huh 101 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: um No. I mean there's a business between sitting at 102 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: a desk and thinking and thinking on the moves. So 103 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: football has poses ont challenges, but um, I think I 104 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: handled both pretty well. Obviously. I know you're not allowed, 105 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: Cameron to you know, talk to the coaches about game 106 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: playing or anything like that yet. But when you're designed 107 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: to come to the Giants, did you talk about it all, um, 108 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: whether or not it would be more of a swing 109 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: tackle Rold, you'd have a chance to compete for a 110 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: starting spot before you signed, did you have those conversations 111 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: and and what were some of the things that Giants 112 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: told you. I told them that my main motivation for 113 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: if I were to come out there was to be 114 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: able to compete for a certain type of spot. I'm curious. 115 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: You grew up in Texas, correct, and Um, then you 116 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: want to stand for h Then you're with the Patriots, 117 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: Then you went back to Texas. So now you're coming 118 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: to the New York metropolitan area, obviously the media capital, 119 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: largest city back to the northeast. What are your thoughts 120 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: about lou went up here? Um, I'm excited. I mean, 121 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: there's no there's no bigger city in um the US, 122 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: you know, like there's nothing. There's not a more happening 123 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: scene than New York. So it'll be cool to experience 124 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: it as a resident. I mean I've obviously always visited 125 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: that area, Um, just visiting friends and all that. But 126 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: it'll be cool. It'll be cool to live there. I 127 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: want to see what the experience is like, because I'm 128 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: sure it's a lot different than living down in Dallas 129 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: and living up in Foxboro. What is it gonna be 130 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: like being on the other side of that Giants Cowboys rivalry? Oh? 131 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: I mean it didn't affect me much. I didn't grow 132 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: up like a Cowboys fan or anything like that, so 133 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't mostly invested in beating the other team, 134 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: never mostly invested in beating like the Giants. Know, So 135 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: I'll just be mostly invested in being the other team. 136 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: Is um on this side of the rivalry, it'll be 137 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: fun go against my most teammates. So what do you 138 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: think of coming up place where where we seem to 139 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: be loading up on Standford guys? Blake Martinez, Lavine, Colo, 140 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: uh Smith's tight end. Um, we may have more Stanford 141 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: guys than anybody. Oh yeah, I like that a lot. 142 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: You know, Um, you allays get a nice, high quality 143 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: athlete and a scholar out of Stanford. Though, I mean, 144 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you want to load up on Stanford guys 145 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: if you got the opportunity. Yeah, I'm justcouraged camp. Um, 146 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: just go back to the or not understand do you 147 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: look like when there are space shuttle launchers and things 148 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: like that, do you still follow that stuff? Are you 149 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: still really into that stuff? Um, not as much. I 150 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: was never into like the the space as much as 151 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: I was into like the the aerospace. It's not the 152 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: astro space, you know. So I really like like planes 153 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: and stuff like that more than I like rocket ships. 154 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: But I mean if I catch it like a space 155 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: sex launch on TV or something like that, or I 156 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: see a link for last year, I'll watch it for 157 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean it's still cool. You just 158 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: know how all that works and know all the forces 159 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: and stuff that are um, putting on a rocket to 160 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: get up in the air. But I like planes a 161 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: lot better. You like flying, so, so like should you 162 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: like flying to it's like being on a plane? Um? Yeah, yeah, 163 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: I like being on a plane of course, um much 164 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: spaces than being on the car being in the car, 165 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I mean I just think planes are 166 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: amazing and I like getting places quick. And one last thing, 167 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: did you ever actually look into what it would take 168 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: to get on the stage show? Um, outside of being 169 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: an astronaut, I know it takes quite a bit of 170 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: money and probably about five or five or ten years, 171 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: so you've given up the dream. Hopefully I live a 172 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: nice long life and in thirty years from now like 173 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: taking a plane. All right, well, we wish you the 174 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: best election, but first first we need you to play 175 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: well to the Giants before you can. Of course, um yeah, 176 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean I'll make sure i'd do that. Thank you, Cameron, 177 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you all so much. You'll 178 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: have You'll have a great day and be safe. You 179 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: to stay safe. That's offensive tackle. Cameron Fleming. We thank 180 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: him and Michael Eison for helping us out on this 181 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: week's episode of the Giant Subtle Podcast. 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