Speaker 1: Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. This is the
Speaker 1: QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes.
Speaker 1: I am Rams's job. I am Qward and in this
Speaker 1: half of the show, we want you to stick around
Speaker 1: because we got more to share with you. First up,
Speaker 1: we are going to be hearing from Qward, or specifically
Speaker 1: Qward's clapback. He mentioned something about a cross section of
Speaker 1: people that need to get clapped at, and so I
Speaker 1: won't go any more detail because we had some fun
Speaker 1: with that earlier. See you laughing over there, but trust me,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have something over that. We're also gonna be
Speaker 1: talking about the judge that was arrested for kind of
Speaker 1: standing up for, you know, immigrants that were being chased
Speaker 1: down by ice, and we think that's a story that
Speaker 1: is worth sharing with everyone. We're also gonna take a
Speaker 1: little bit of time to discuss Ryan Coogler and the
Speaker 1: film Centers. It's just a fantastic cultural moment and for
Speaker 1: those that are not familiar with that, hopefully we can
Speaker 1: give you some some motivation to check that out. But
Speaker 1: for now, it is time for two words clap back.
Speaker 1: What you got for us?
Speaker 2: So very interesting that we're going to be talking about
Speaker 2: Centers here in a minute, because I've noticed a trend
Speaker 2: on social media over the last week as Centers is
Speaker 2: being just critically acclaimed, not just critically acclaimed, but ringing
Speaker 2: it up at the box office as well. I think
Speaker 2: it had the lowest drop off from opening week in
Speaker 2: the history of cinema, a less than ten percent drop
Speaker 2: off from opening week, and the movie's made close to
Speaker 2: two hundred million dollars already as we as we get
Speaker 2: further into its release, I was able to see it
Speaker 2: on Imax, which it was shot in Imax cameras. There's
Speaker 2: a Marvel movie coming up or coming out this week,
Speaker 2: and I believe or coming out soon that's going to
Speaker 2: push it out of my out of Imax. But the
Speaker 2: movie has been so successful some theaters have decided that
Speaker 2: the Marvel movie gonna have to wait because Centers is
Speaker 2: doing its thing. But the thing that I've noticed that
Speaker 2: it's so disheartening, and it's us. I guess, our people.
Speaker 2: Our contrarianism is just growing by the day, and I'm
Speaker 2: seeing Black people go out of their way to talk
Speaker 2: about how mid or average or not that great. This
Speaker 2: movie is and I know it's not because they don't
Speaker 2: think it's great. I think some of them haven't even
Speaker 2: seen it. It's just that, well, everybody's saying it's great.
Speaker 2: So the way that I can flex and get some
Speaker 2: likes and some attention and look like the smart guy
Speaker 2: in the room is if I just take the contrarian position.
Speaker 2: And that's become the case not just with sinners, but
Speaker 2: with the shape of the Earth that the flat earthers
Speaker 2: haven't done any scientific research to prove their point. It's
Speaker 2: just a bold contrarian position to take to declare yourself freethinking.
Speaker 2: But the then diagram is what has become so interesting
Speaker 2: to me because the most recent time I saw somebody
Speaker 2: declare Centers a mid movie that wasn't all that great,
Speaker 2: funny the movie they compared it to that that it
Speaker 2: You know, people are acting like this movie is the
Speaker 2: Godfather or something. Well, how come the Godfather gets to
Speaker 2: be the greatest movie ever? Is it because it was old?
Speaker 2: Or is it because the director and the protagonists and
Speaker 2: all the characters don't look like you? And you can
Speaker 2: accept that something made by us, that looks like us,
Speaker 2: that's made for us could be the best. So I
Speaker 2: start scrolling backwards and I noticed a very interesting cross section.
Speaker 2: What you're going to say, Please, I'd love to hear
Speaker 2: where you think. I'm going.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I don't want to jump in front of you,
Speaker 1: and far be it for me to stay another man's brief.
Speaker 1: But how about this, because you're talking about contrary and
Speaker 1: now I do a lot of work with you. But
Speaker 1: I bet you're going to say that the person that
Speaker 1: has an issue with Sinners is the same person that
Speaker 1: took an issue with Kendrick. Is the same person that
Speaker 1: at Kendrick had the Super Bowls. The same person that
Speaker 1: took an issue with Kamala Harris when she was running
Speaker 1: for president is the same person that we find that
Speaker 1: these different points in society when you know we're having
Speaker 1: a cultural moment and they are like continually the dissenters.
Speaker 2: There's a scary thing that happens when you work with
Speaker 2: someone so closely for this long that it is that
Speaker 2: they read your mind. But it's not a singular person.
Speaker 2: It's people. It's all of the people. I'm going to say,
Speaker 2: all of those things that you just said are the
Speaker 2: same person. Right, Kamala's messaging wasn't good enough apologizing for
Speaker 2: Maga Kendrick. Wasn't that good? Drake won the battle? The
Speaker 2: earth is flat. It's like, wow, this super Bowl performance
Speaker 2: was the worst I'd ever seen. Sinners isn't that good
Speaker 2: of a movie. It's it's like contrarian and anti us,
Speaker 2: and it sucks because it's us, all the people that
Speaker 2: we just named, it's black people, young black people.
Speaker 3: Let me.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to add something here, this experience.
Speaker 1: I think it's important that this is that we're sharing
Speaker 1: this right now because this is something that I don't
Speaker 1: I don't experience this when I'm on social media. I'm
Speaker 1: on social media for a very different reason. And you
Speaker 1: are just a popular person in general, like everybody wants
Speaker 1: to be your friend. I know you're like magical dude.
Speaker 1: And I go on social media and I think I'm
Speaker 1: in a group chat with you and like my family,
Speaker 1: and so you have like more I guess, more interactions
Speaker 1: with people, and I think that you're more of like
Speaker 1: the lightning rod when it comes to our programming.
Speaker 2: Which is an interesting thing that happens. I don't really
Speaker 2: interact with people at all. I just read a lot
Speaker 2: of stories, like if somebody followed us or me on
Speaker 2: social media, I am q Ward on all socials. They'll
Speaker 2: notice you've posted three times in the last year, six
Speaker 2: times in the last two years, nine times in the
Speaker 2: last three years. I don't post a lot. I share
Speaker 2: a lot of stories, though, Okay, so I'm unfortunately, because
Speaker 2: of what we do, very very tuned into what's going
Speaker 2: on in the world and what's going on in this country.
Speaker 2: That does not always just involve politics, which we cover,
Speaker 2: you know, very very often, but you know, popular culture
Speaker 2: in general, music and you know, civic engagement and entertainment
Speaker 2: and sports are also topics that come across our desk
Speaker 2: and that come through my feed, and you know, the
Speaker 2: algorithm understands that those are things that I'm interested in,
Speaker 2: so I see them all the time. I see those stories,
Speaker 2: I share those stories. I don't do a lot of
Speaker 2: interacting with those people. I would drive myself crazy messaging
Speaker 2: that person back that said this movie that I've now
Speaker 2: seen twice wasn't that good. But you're observing. But I'm
Speaker 2: observing the behavior. And like I said, I as soon
Speaker 2: as I read it, I felt it. Let me scroll back.
Speaker 2: Like I scrolled back, I didn't scroll back to do
Speaker 2: research or to investigate. I knew I would find what
Speaker 2: I was looking for. I knew I just had to
Speaker 2: scroll far enough. And luckily Kendrick's on tour right now.
Speaker 2: So the same people that are saying centers aren't that good,
Speaker 2: or the same people saying that all those fifty thousand
Speaker 2: people that are at that show are bots, it's the
Speaker 2: same people, or that they used AI when we were
Speaker 2: going to the least during the during the campaign, that
Speaker 2: they used AI to make those places look for We're like, no,
Speaker 2: we're here, it's not AI. It's these are people, you know,
Speaker 2: and and that's and those type of people will will
Speaker 2: move the gold posts and they can't just be wrong
Speaker 2: and they can't just be contrarian for contrarian's sake, so
Speaker 2: they end up spiraling down these rabbit holes of conspiracy
Speaker 2: theory and nonsense. And let me ask you something.
Speaker 1: Please, do you because I've heard you mentioned a couple
Speaker 1: of times that it's us meaning like black people. Yes,
Speaker 1: do you think it could be Russian bots? Because I
Speaker 1: looked into that and those things are so sophisticated.
Speaker 2: No, because I'm not just talking about profile list accounts.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about personalities, like I'm looking at videos of
Speaker 2: black people, some of them famous, talking like it's actual
Speaker 2: opinions from actual.
Speaker 1: People, and it's just to get on people's nerves. The
Speaker 1: one thing that I think people they don't.
Speaker 2: Assume that it's just to get on people's ned I
Speaker 2: think they believe themselves, but I know the reason they
Speaker 2: arrived at where they are is contrarian with no foundation.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for that. Clapback forward, Tom anymore. All right, now,
Speaker 1: let's have some dialogue. Let's talk about the judge that
Speaker 1: was arrested for standing up for immigrants. Now, for those
Speaker 1: that are not familiar with the story, I'm gonna pay
Speaker 1: a little bit of pictures. This comes from the La Times.
Speaker 1: The flurry of immigration enforcement at courthouses around the country
Speaker 1: in the last month, already heavily criticized by judicial officials
Speaker 1: and lawyers, has renewed a legal bottle from President Trump's
Speaker 1: first term, as advocates feer people might avoid coming to court.
Speaker 1: It's drawing further attention with last Friday's arrest of judge
Speaker 1: Hannah Dugan in Wisconsin. The FBI arrested Dugan on suspicion
Speaker 1: that she taught she tried sorry to help a defendant
Speaker 1: evade waiting federal agents by letting him leave her courtroom
Speaker 1: through a jury door.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 1: Some of these judges think they are beyond and above
Speaker 1: the law, and they are not. And we're sending a
Speaker 1: very strong message today, Attorney General Pam Bondi said during
Speaker 1: an appearance on Fox News after the arrest. So I
Speaker 1: guess I'll share some thoughts before you kind of jump
Speaker 1: in here. But I kind of thought that judges were
Speaker 1: the people that interpreted the law. So I don't know
Speaker 1: that it's as much a matter of judges thinking that
Speaker 1: they're above the law. But you know, judges have their place.
Speaker 1: But here's something that I found recently. There's half of
Speaker 1: the country that is turning a blind eye to this
Speaker 1: sort of thing, right and the reason. And I wish
Speaker 1: I had the article because the article could say it
Speaker 1: better than I'm about to say it. But and of
Speaker 1: course there's no like hard numbers to go with this.
Speaker 1: But if you hear me, I think that you'll feel
Speaker 1: the truth in this statement. And if not, if you're listening,
Speaker 1: you know, please feel free to disagree. You can find
Speaker 1: me on all social media at Rams's job. But the
Speaker 1: people that voted for Donald Trump second time or a
Speaker 1: third time, those triple Trumpers. Right, These people do not
Speaker 1: care about law and order if it does not if
Speaker 1: it prevents them from getting or forgets prevents us from
Speaker 1: getting to the version of the country that they want.
Speaker 1: They don't care that Donald Trump is not a normal politician.
Speaker 1: They don't care that he does some evil things. They
Speaker 1: don't care that Republicans do some things that objectively would
Speaker 1: would would be considered evil. They think that Jesus Christ
Speaker 1: would be in line at a polling station in front
Speaker 1: of the klu klux klansmen and behind the Nazi standing
Speaker 1: in line to all collectively go vote for Donald Trump. Right,
Speaker 1: This is the reality for them. They don't care that
Speaker 1: that Trump is breaking rules and cutting through that doesn't.
Speaker 2: We can we can we say breaking laws?
Speaker 1: Breaking laws?
Speaker 2: That's breaking rules sound so benign and not serious.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming break your laws, right, But they
Speaker 1: love the fact that that now that they feel like
Speaker 1: he's above the law, that he is the law. That's
Speaker 1: probably the best way to say it. And so there's
Speaker 1: half of the country that will look at this and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, arrest the judge ice is there to do
Speaker 1: what they're you know, what I mean, and while we
Speaker 1: are this is kind of these are like the embers
Speaker 1: that kind of start sort of civil war stuff. Man.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that. I think that maybe like
Speaker 1: half of the country doesn't realize that the rules are
Speaker 1: for all of us all the time, that that that
Speaker 1: this this country was framed in such a way that
Speaker 1: it could thrive in perpetuity because this country had learned
Speaker 1: from the societies before it and how those societies had collapsed.
Speaker 1: And we're at four hundred or so years into this
Speaker 1: American experiment. And I think that people think that while
Speaker 1: they're up right now, those on the right, in particular
Speaker 1: far right I'll say far right, while they're up right now,
Speaker 1: for them to turn a blind eye to the constitution
Speaker 1: and the framework of this society, I think that's shooting
Speaker 1: themselves in the foot. We are not old enough to
Speaker 1: just swing in one direction and have it be all good.
Speaker 1: There are countries that are a lot older than the
Speaker 1: United States. China is bragging right now that they are
Speaker 1: not sitting down at a negotiating table with Donald Trump
Speaker 1: to negotiate the terroriffts they're bragging, they're like China's been
Speaker 1: here for five thousand years will be fine. That's really
Speaker 1: what they're on right. So for the people that look
Speaker 1: at this like, oh, this is fine. They're arresting judges. Now, No,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. This should not be happening. And there
Speaker 1: were a lot of steps that people turned to blind
Speaker 1: eye to before we got to this point. At no
Speaker 1: point should this happen this, this should have been litigated
Speaker 1: long before, and indeed it was. But what we're seeing
Speaker 1: is a regime effectively ignoring lawful orders from the courts
Speaker 1: of the land. And it's been politics as usual until today.
Speaker 1: And if there are people that rise up against this,
Speaker 1: it's not we the people, it's really just one half
Speaker 1: of the country, because the other half is looking at
Speaker 1: us like, yeah, we're finally getting our country back. Trump's in,
Speaker 1: They're finally getting rid of all these illegals, and no,
Speaker 1: Trump is putting on a show. And yes, there are
Speaker 1: some people who are not technically here legally yet, but
Speaker 1: if you're deporting you know, one hundred thousand people, and
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty thousand of them have never committed
Speaker 1: a crime, then they're not illegal criminals. If you're deporting
Speaker 1: people just.
Speaker 2: Seventy five thousand, I think you mean five thousand.
Speaker 1: That's what I meant to that. Yeah, and and and
Speaker 1: again these numbers, I want to make sure that I
Speaker 1: stated as clearly as I can these numbers. I haven't
Speaker 1: yet to verify them, but they come from trusted sources.
Speaker 2: So we we tend to try not to get bogged
Speaker 2: down with semantics. And it's not to be inaccurate, it's
Speaker 2: to we're making a point that whether or not the numbers,
Speaker 2: it's not specific to the to the numbers, the exact number.
Speaker 2: And I also don't want us to veer into illegals.
Speaker 2: They're deporting citizens. Yeah, that too, I was getting there,
Speaker 2: Like let's let's let's I mean, let's cut across the
Speaker 2: grass though, like because they can try to soundly make
Speaker 2: an argument that illegal should be deported either way, the
Speaker 2: way that they're doing it is illegal. And how dare
Speaker 2: this judge want there to be due process before you
Speaker 2: just arrest, attain and deport someone? Like, how dare a
Speaker 2: judge think that you should follow the law? Oh my god? Right,
Speaker 2: So they're the they're the party of law and order
Speaker 2: until it comes time for them to break the law.
Speaker 1: Said it best right there.
Speaker 2: Until it comes time for them to break the law.
Speaker 2: We need to say it with those words. Though. They're
Speaker 2: the party of law and order and back the Blue
Speaker 2: and all that nonsense until it's time for them to
Speaker 2: break the law, and then they're anti American, anti law enforcement,
Speaker 2: anti due process, anti constitution, and anti judge.
Speaker 1: That's when they start looking at the same judge.
Speaker 2: The back to blue all lives matter people are the
Speaker 2: same get out of my country, go to some prison
Speaker 2: in a foreign country with no due process, arrest judges.
Speaker 2: The same people that were anti defund the police became
Speaker 2: defund the FBI when it wasn't in their best interest
Speaker 2: to let us break the law whenever we feel like it,
Speaker 2: because we're right and it's our country and it's only
Speaker 2: our country.
Speaker 3: You go.
Speaker 2: So it is a really, really disgusting time. And you
Speaker 2: said the words civil war. Once upon a time that
Speaker 2: could happen. The United States military is the muscle of
Speaker 2: the President of the United States. We can't start a
Speaker 2: civil war against them, like they can't happen anymore. It's
Speaker 2: no longer a possibility. You know, we can march in
Speaker 2: the streets. But if every American with every gun they
Speaker 2: had took to arms against the United States military be
Speaker 2: a very short fight. So the idea of civil war
Speaker 2: is no longer a realistic idea. I don't know what
Speaker 2: we're supposed to do now, you guys, let Donald Trump
Speaker 2: become the president again, and he told you he was
Speaker 2: going to do everything that he's doing, or I'm sorry
Speaker 2: they published everything that he was going to do, and
Speaker 2: then he threw up his hands and say, hey, I
Speaker 2: don't know what that is. I mean, of course, all
Speaker 2: those people that wrote for me and were appointed by me,
Speaker 2: but ha, come see, kumsah, why would you think that
Speaker 2: that had anything to do with me? Until day one? Okay,
Speaker 2: let's run it. And now we are watching the entire
Speaker 2: world become a far less safe place because of what
Speaker 2: we allowed to happen here in November. It is a
Speaker 2: really disgusting and dangerous and scary place for us to be,
Speaker 2: and most of us, I'm certain still don't realize that yet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of going on about our day,
Speaker 2: like we always have happening, And I'm looking around sometimes like,
Speaker 2: am I the only one that's reading all of this stuff?
Speaker 2: Am I the only person that realizes all of this
Speaker 2: is happening?
Speaker 1: There's a stunning silence across the land. But you know
Speaker 1: one person that is still active, or was still active
Speaker 1: until she was arrested. It was Judge Hannah Dugan in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: She did what was in her power, what she felt
Speaker 1: was right. And you know, that is the sort of
Speaker 1: thing that you're supposed to do. You're supposed to resist.
Speaker 1: This country was birthed from resistance, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You guys may have read about the Boston tea party. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that happened because of tariffs on tea.
Speaker 1: Just that all right, Well, for the last segment, we're
Speaker 1: gonna shift over to some entertainment news. Ryan Coogler. He's
Speaker 1: having a heck of a run. You know, his his
Speaker 1: one of his partners, I'll say, uh, Chadwick Boseman passed away.
Speaker 1: And that was you know, for those that are listening
Speaker 1: that aren't black, I'm sure you know, because you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be listening to us if you didn't know. But you
Speaker 1: you probably know that that was a loss that we
Speaker 1: all felt. Black black people across the board, we felt
Speaker 1: that that felt special. He was kind of our superhero.
Speaker 1: And you know, there's a couple of times when I cried.
Speaker 1: I cried for Nipsey hustle, you know I did. I'm
Speaker 1: from Compton, so that was you know, you know, southern California,
Speaker 1: that lifestyle. That just felt like we shouldn't have lost him.
Speaker 1: And you know Chadwick, that was another one where it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Kobe, you know, Kobe was another one where
Speaker 1: it's like, that doesn't feel great to lose someone that
Speaker 1: you looked up to. And so for Ryan Coogler to
Speaker 1: then take take that moment, turn it into Black Panther two,
Speaker 1: you know, pay homage to UH, to Chadwick, and continue
Speaker 1: to honor him, but also continue to showcase his excellence.
Speaker 1: I think that this is all of these things culminate
Speaker 1: in this moment. Add to it that the movie centers
Speaker 1: it has some sort of special deal with the movie
Speaker 1: studio where the rights to the movie revert back to him.
Speaker 1: And then I've also heard that there's going to be
Speaker 1: a cinematic universe for Sinners too, And so this feels special.
Speaker 1: This feels on par with like the Tyler Perry's and
Speaker 1: like the building of an empire, which it doesn't happen
Speaker 1: very often for us, and so we love the idea
Speaker 1: of celebrating this. So when I share this I want
Speaker 1: you to understand that this part of the show, we're
Speaker 1: sharing it in that context. Okay, all right, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna share from Variety this year the Oscar season. Prayer
Speaker 1: has a name and its Sinners. With Sinners, writer director
Speaker 1: Ryan Kugler, one of Hollywood's most quietly seismic forces, steps
Speaker 1: into a genre long neglected by the Academy and once
Speaker 1: again reshapes the game. A slow burned psychological horror film,
Speaker 1: Sinners is not just a pivot for Kugler. Rather, it's
Speaker 1: a proclamation. For more than a decade, Kugler has been
Speaker 1: Hollywood's quiet revolutionary symbolizing for the black community, a figure
Speaker 1: akin to our very own Christopher Nolan. From chronicling the
Speaker 1: final hours of Oscar Grant's life in Fruitvale Station, to
Speaker 1: reviving the Rocky franchise with Creed, to breaking barriers with
Speaker 1: the cultural juggernaut Black Panther, Kugler fuses personal and political
Speaker 1: story telling with mass appeal. Like a few others, Now
Speaker 1: I want to share something. This is in his own words,
Speaker 1: and this is just him talking about Chadwick again for
Speaker 1: folks that aren't familiar to just bringing you up to speed.
Speaker 3: But if I hadn't gotten started when I did and
Speaker 3: graduated film score at twenty four and Mary Fruville at
Speaker 3: twenty five and make Creed and Black Panther around time
Speaker 3: being thirty. All these things were like Domino's for me.
Speaker 3: And if I hadn't gotten that start, I never would
Speaker 3: have met Chad Who's time with Solemnity.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was him getting emotional there. But it
Speaker 1: gives you an idea of one of the things that
Speaker 1: I'll say. I'll just go ahead and say it. I
Speaker 1: love the fact that he is authentically himself, right, he
Speaker 1: has not had to dress it up anymore. And we're
Speaker 1: talking about the way that he talks. He's from the
Speaker 1: Bay Area and that's who he is. Oaktown, Oaktown, right.
Speaker 1: For a lot of people to hear him speak, I
Speaker 1: think that there's this idea, and it's across the board
Speaker 1: of all races, of all walks of life, all socioeconomic backgrounds,
Speaker 1: there's this idea I'm sure that exists that when you
Speaker 1: hear him speak, you would not imagine that he's capable
Speaker 1: of the complex.
Speaker 2: Brilliant.
Speaker 1: H execution of storytelling, of creating a creating a series
Speaker 1: of films.
Speaker 2: Who wouldn't imagine, well, a lot of Detroit Mission, a
Speaker 2: lot of people right from Compton, California. No, No, I know,
Speaker 2: I know, absolutely imagine that that brother is from the Bay,
Speaker 2: from east here, from our cousins. Now.
Speaker 1: But the point I'm making, the point I'm making capable
Speaker 1: of complex, brilliant Flip this table over, I got you,
Speaker 1: I got you, I got you. Hear me out, hear
Speaker 1: me out, watch this. So there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that might hear him talking. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that will hear me and you talking just how we
Speaker 1: talk and feel like, oh, I need to stay away
Speaker 1: from those guys, and would not imagine that we are
Speaker 1: syndicated on one hundred and fifty radio stations across the
Speaker 1: country and the words that we share with each other
Speaker 1: actually that, you know, our part and parcel to the
Speaker 1: empire that we've managed to build somehow. And so this
Speaker 1: is why I really wanted to have him speak in
Speaker 1: his own voice, uh and kind of share a little
Speaker 1: bit of insight into who this person is, because I
Speaker 1: think that for this part of the story, at least,
Speaker 1: the one thing that I wanted to share with people
Speaker 1: is that you never know what you're condemning. You never
Speaker 1: know what you're fearing. You never know what you're you know,
Speaker 1: trying to get away from. You never know what you're suppressing.
Speaker 1: You never know what you're discriminating. Again, and how capable
Speaker 1: and how brilliant the mind might be. You know things
Speaker 1: that things like like accents, A lot of times those
Speaker 1: are regional, they're cultural, and in no way reflects a
Speaker 1: person's cognitive abilities. This is a lesson I learned a
Speaker 1: long time ago because I said something in a conversation
Speaker 1: once to a woman. This is an older white woman.
Speaker 1: I was a teenager when I said it, but I
Speaker 1: was talking about a person who had like kind of
Speaker 1: a thick like country accent, right, And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, they talk like they're stupid, they talk like
Speaker 1: they're unintelligent. I said this right that I was a child, okay,
Speaker 1: And she said, no, Ramses, they're not unintelligent, they're just Southern.
Speaker 2: And she said it just like that, and it.
Speaker 1: Was just like a switch, right. And so I'm trying
Speaker 1: to help create that moment for people that may not
Speaker 1: be familiar with you know who Ryan Coogler is now
Speaker 1: as far as the film. You've seen the film, so
Speaker 1: you know, talk to us a little bit about the film.
Speaker 2: I've seen the film twice, and I don't like talking
Speaker 2: about it because I like for people to be as
Speaker 2: surprised by the rich cultural weaving that he does with
Speaker 2: the storytelling in the visuals, Like it's a tapestry, man.
Speaker 2: It is a rich tapestry, and it's so colorful, it's
Speaker 2: so cinematic, and it's so black. It's based in the
Speaker 2: Mississippi Delta during the sharecropping of the nineteen twenties and thirties.
Speaker 2: It's a really really powerful thing going on where these
Speaker 2: brothers from Chicago come back home to Mississippi and just
Speaker 2: and tap back into their roots and where they're from,
Speaker 2: and their reputation precedes them. But you know, a black
Speaker 2: original ip horror. I don't even want to say the
Speaker 2: next work. Some people might know and I want them
Speaker 2: to be shocked. So I'm just gonna bite my tongue
Speaker 2: on that one. It catches you off Guarden the best ways.
Speaker 2: It's so created, it's so different, it's so brilliant, and
Speaker 2: what Cougler has been able to do because he's had
Speaker 2: so much success, He's done over two billion dollars at
Speaker 2: the box office already. I think he's thirty something years
Speaker 2: old and he was able to negotiate that deal that
Speaker 2: you mentioned were and I think twenty years or twenty
Speaker 2: five years, the rights and the masters come back to
Speaker 2: him and his which doesn't happen. And he wouldn't have
Speaker 2: been able to do that on prior stories because he's
Speaker 2: telling someone else's stories IP that already exists with Marvel,
Speaker 2: a story that already happened with Fruitville, an actual bio story,
Speaker 2: and create so with Creed from the Rockies, you know universe,
Speaker 2: this being his original IP. He not only negotiated to
Speaker 2: get his the rights and the master's back, but first
Speaker 2: dollar gross, which never happens. From the very first dollar
Speaker 2: the movie makes. He gets his percentage, not after the
Speaker 2: studio makes their money back, not after marketing costs, the
Speaker 2: front run up front, from the first dollar made.
Speaker 1: I need mine right now in the mighty name. All right,
Speaker 1: let me ask you something. I think you're gonna love
Speaker 1: this question. Do you think that Ryan Kugler creates films
Speaker 1: in the way that Kendrick Lamar creates music.
Speaker 2: I'll do you one better. Ryan Cooler created a film
Speaker 2: and Kendrick Lamar created the music for the film. It's
Speaker 2: called Black Panther.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should check it out, right, You're right, So, okay,
Speaker 1: I love that, But you know where I was going
Speaker 1: with that For folks that aren't familiar. You know, Q
Speaker 1: and I we've had lots of conversations about Compton Kendrick
Speaker 1: and you know, there's there's rapping and then there's what
Speaker 1: Kendrick does and it's very complicated and there's always something
Speaker 1: new to discover. And I think that you can find
Speaker 1: that same type of rewatchability, revisitability, if you will, with
Speaker 1: Ryan Kugler's films, where you go back and you're like
Speaker 1: all these neat little gems and then you have fun
Speaker 1: to discussing it. So really excited about that. But that's
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