WEBVTT - QR Code - Judge Arrested for Protecting Immigrants / Ryan Coogler Makes History with Sinners Film (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Rams's job. I am Qward and in this

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<v Speaker 1>half of the show, we want you to stick around

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<v Speaker 1>because we got more to share with you. First up,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to be hearing from Qward, or specifically

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<v Speaker 1>Qward's clapback. He mentioned something about a cross section of

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<v Speaker 1>people that need to get clapped at, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>won't go any more detail because we had some fun

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<v Speaker 1>with that earlier. See you laughing over there, but trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have something over that. We're also gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the judge that was arrested for kind of

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<v Speaker 1>standing up for, you know, immigrants that were being chased

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<v Speaker 1>down by ice, and we think that's a story that

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<v Speaker 1>is worth sharing with everyone. We're also gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of time to discuss Ryan Coogler and the

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<v Speaker 1>film Centers. It's just a fantastic cultural moment and for

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<v Speaker 1>those that are not familiar with that, hopefully we can

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<v Speaker 1>give you some some motivation to check that out. But

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<v Speaker 1>for now, it is time for two words clap back.

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<v Speaker 1>What you got for us?

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<v Speaker 2>So very interesting that we're going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Centers here in a minute, because I've noticed a trend

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<v Speaker 2>on social media over the last week as Centers is

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<v Speaker 2>being just critically acclaimed, not just critically acclaimed, but ringing

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<v Speaker 2>it up at the box office as well. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it had the lowest drop off from opening week in

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<v Speaker 2>the history of cinema, a less than ten percent drop

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<v Speaker 2>off from opening week, and the movie's made close to

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred million dollars already as we as we get

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<v Speaker 2>further into its release, I was able to see it

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<v Speaker 2>on Imax, which it was shot in Imax cameras. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a Marvel movie coming up or coming out this week,

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<v Speaker 2>and I believe or coming out soon that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>push it out of my out of Imax. But the

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<v Speaker 2>movie has been so successful some theaters have decided that

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<v Speaker 2>the Marvel movie gonna have to wait because Centers is

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<v Speaker 2>doing its thing. But the thing that I've noticed that

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<v Speaker 2>it's so disheartening, and it's us. I guess, our people.

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<v Speaker 2>Our contrarianism is just growing by the day, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>seeing Black people go out of their way to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about how mid or average or not that great. This

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<v Speaker 2>movie is and I know it's not because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's great. I think some of them haven't even

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<v Speaker 2>seen it. It's just that, well, everybody's saying it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>So the way that I can flex and get some

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<v Speaker 2>likes and some attention and look like the smart guy

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<v Speaker 2>in the room is if I just take the contrarian position.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's become the case not just with sinners, but

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<v Speaker 2>with the shape of the Earth that the flat earthers

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<v Speaker 2>haven't done any scientific research to prove their point. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a bold contrarian position to take to declare yourself freethinking.

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<v Speaker 2>But the then diagram is what has become so interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to me because the most recent time I saw somebody

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<v Speaker 2>declare Centers a mid movie that wasn't all that great,

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<v Speaker 2>funny the movie they compared it to that that it

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<v Speaker 2>You know, people are acting like this movie is the

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<v Speaker 2>Godfather or something. Well, how come the Godfather gets to

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<v Speaker 2>be the greatest movie ever? Is it because it was old?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it because the director and the protagonists and

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<v Speaker 2>all the characters don't look like you? And you can

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<v Speaker 2>accept that something made by us, that looks like us,

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<v Speaker 2>that's made for us could be the best. So I

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<v Speaker 2>start scrolling backwards and I noticed a very interesting cross section.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're going to say, Please, I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 2>where you think. I'm going.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and I don't want to jump in front of you,

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<v Speaker 1>and far be it for me to stay another man's brief.

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<v Speaker 1>But how about this, because you're talking about contrary and

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<v Speaker 1>now I do a lot of work with you. But

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you're going to say that the person that

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<v Speaker 1>has an issue with Sinners is the same person that

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<v Speaker 1>took an issue with Kendrick. Is the same person that

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<v Speaker 1>at Kendrick had the Super Bowls. The same person that

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<v Speaker 1>took an issue with Kamala Harris when she was running

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<v Speaker 1>for president is the same person that we find that

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<v Speaker 1>these different points in society when you know we're having

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<v Speaker 1>a cultural moment and they are like continually the dissenters.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a scary thing that happens when you work with

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<v Speaker 2>someone so closely for this long that it is that

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<v Speaker 2>they read your mind. But it's not a singular person.

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<v Speaker 2>It's people. It's all of the people. I'm going to say,

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<v Speaker 2>all of those things that you just said are the

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<v Speaker 2>same person. Right, Kamala's messaging wasn't good enough apologizing for

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<v Speaker 2>Maga Kendrick. Wasn't that good? Drake won the battle? The

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<v Speaker 2>earth is flat. It's like, wow, this super Bowl performance

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<v Speaker 2>was the worst I'd ever seen. Sinners isn't that good

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<v Speaker 2>of a movie. It's it's like contrarian and anti us,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sucks because it's us, all the people that

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<v Speaker 2>we just named, it's black people, young black people.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to add something here, this experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important that this is that we're sharing

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<v Speaker 1>this right now because this is something that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't experience this when I'm on social media. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on social media for a very different reason. And you

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<v Speaker 1>are just a popular person in general, like everybody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be your friend. I know you're like magical dude.

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<v Speaker 1>And I go on social media and I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a group chat with you and like my family,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you have like more I guess, more interactions

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<v Speaker 1>with people, and I think that you're more of like

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<v Speaker 1>the lightning rod when it comes to our programming.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is an interesting thing that happens. I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>interact with people at all. I just read a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stories, like if somebody followed us or me on

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<v Speaker 2>social media, I am q Ward on all socials. They'll

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<v Speaker 2>notice you've posted three times in the last year, six

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<v Speaker 2>times in the last two years, nine times in the

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<v Speaker 2>last three years. I don't post a lot. I share

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of stories, though, Okay, so I'm unfortunately, because

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<v Speaker 2>of what we do, very very tuned into what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on in the world and what's going on in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>That does not always just involve politics, which we cover,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, very very often, but you know, popular culture

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<v Speaker 2>in general, music and you know, civic engagement and entertainment

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<v Speaker 2>and sports are also topics that come across our desk

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<v Speaker 2>and that come through my feed, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>algorithm understands that those are things that I'm interested in,

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<v Speaker 2>so I see them all the time. I see those stories,

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<v Speaker 2>I share those stories. I don't do a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>interacting with those people. I would drive myself crazy messaging

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<v Speaker 2>that person back that said this movie that I've now

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<v Speaker 2>seen twice wasn't that good. But you're observing. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>observing the behavior. And like I said, I as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as I read it, I felt it. Let me scroll back.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I scrolled back, I didn't scroll back to do

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<v Speaker 2>research or to investigate. I knew I would find what

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking for. I knew I just had to

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<v Speaker 2>scroll far enough. And luckily Kendrick's on tour right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So the same people that are saying centers aren't that good,

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<v Speaker 2>or the same people saying that all those fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people that are at that show are bots, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same people, or that they used AI when we were

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<v Speaker 2>going to the least during the during the campaign, that

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<v Speaker 2>they used AI to make those places look for We're like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're here, it's not AI. It's these are people, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and and that's and those type of people will will

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<v Speaker 2>move the gold posts and they can't just be wrong

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<v Speaker 2>and they can't just be contrarian for contrarian's sake, so

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<v Speaker 2>they end up spiraling down these rabbit holes of conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>theory and nonsense. And let me ask you something.

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<v Speaker 1>Please, do you because I've heard you mentioned a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times that it's us meaning like black people. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it could be Russian bots? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>looked into that and those things are so sophisticated.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because I'm not just talking about profile list accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about personalities, like I'm looking at videos of

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<v Speaker 2>black people, some of them famous, talking like it's actual

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<v Speaker 2>opinions from actual.

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<v Speaker 1>People, and it's just to get on people's nerves. The

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that I think people they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Assume that it's just to get on people's ned I

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<v Speaker 2>think they believe themselves, but I know the reason they

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<v Speaker 2>arrived at where they are is contrarian with no foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you for that. Clapback forward, Tom anymore. All right, now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's have some dialogue. Let's talk about the judge that

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<v Speaker 1>was arrested for standing up for immigrants. Now, for those

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<v Speaker 1>that are not familiar with the story, I'm gonna pay

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of pictures. This comes from the La Times.

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<v Speaker 1>The flurry of immigration enforcement at courthouses around the country

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<v Speaker 1>in the last month, already heavily criticized by judicial officials

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<v Speaker 1>and lawyers, has renewed a legal bottle from President Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>first term, as advocates feer people might avoid coming to court.

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<v Speaker 1>It's drawing further attention with last Friday's arrest of judge

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah Dugan in Wisconsin. The FBI arrested Dugan on suspicion

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<v Speaker 1>that she taught she tried sorry to help a defendant

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<v Speaker 1>evade waiting federal agents by letting him leave her courtroom

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<v Speaker 1>through a jury door.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these judges think they are beyond and above

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<v Speaker 1>the law, and they are not. And we're sending a

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<v Speaker 1>very strong message today, Attorney General Pam Bondi said during

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<v Speaker 1>an appearance on Fox News after the arrest. So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'll share some thoughts before you kind of jump

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<v Speaker 1>in here. But I kind of thought that judges were

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<v Speaker 1>the people that interpreted the law. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's as much a matter of judges thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>they're above the law. But you know, judges have their place.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's something that I found recently. There's half of

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<v Speaker 1>the country that is turning a blind eye to this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing, right and the reason. And I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had the article because the article could say it

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<v Speaker 1>better than I'm about to say it. But and of

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<v Speaker 1>course there's no like hard numbers to go with this.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you hear me, I think that you'll feel

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<v Speaker 1>the truth in this statement. And if not, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, please feel free to disagree. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>me on all social media at Rams's job. But the

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<v Speaker 1>people that voted for Donald Trump second time or a

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<v Speaker 1>third time, those triple Trumpers. Right, These people do not

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<v Speaker 1>care about law and order if it does not if

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<v Speaker 1>it prevents them from getting or forgets prevents us from

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the version of the country that they want.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't care that Donald Trump is not a normal politician.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't care that he does some evil things. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't care that Republicans do some things that objectively would

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<v Speaker 1>would would be considered evil. They think that Jesus Christ

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<v Speaker 1>would be in line at a polling station in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the klu klux klansmen and behind the Nazi standing

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<v Speaker 1>in line to all collectively go vote for Donald Trump. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>This is the reality for them. They don't care that

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump is breaking rules and cutting through that doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>We can we can we say breaking laws?

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking laws?

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<v Speaker 2>That's breaking rules sound so benign and not serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for coming break your laws, right, But they

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<v Speaker 1>love the fact that that now that they feel like

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<v Speaker 1>he's above the law, that he is the law. That's

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best way to say it. And so there's

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<v Speaker 1>half of the country that will look at this and say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, arrest the judge ice is there to do

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<v Speaker 1>what they're you know, what I mean, and while we

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<v Speaker 1>are this is kind of these are like the embers

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of start sort of civil war stuff. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that. I think that maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>half of the country doesn't realize that the rules are

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us all the time, that that that

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<v Speaker 1>this this country was framed in such a way that

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<v Speaker 1>it could thrive in perpetuity because this country had learned

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<v Speaker 1>from the societies before it and how those societies had collapsed.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're at four hundred or so years into this

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<v Speaker 1>American experiment. And I think that people think that while

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<v Speaker 1>they're up right now, those on the right, in particular

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<v Speaker 1>far right I'll say far right, while they're up right now,

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<v Speaker 1>for them to turn a blind eye to the constitution

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<v Speaker 1>and the framework of this society, I think that's shooting

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<v Speaker 1>themselves in the foot. We are not old enough to

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<v Speaker 1>just swing in one direction and have it be all good.

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<v Speaker 1>There are countries that are a lot older than the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. China is bragging right now that they are

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<v Speaker 1>not sitting down at a negotiating table with Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>to negotiate the terroriffts they're bragging, they're like China's been

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<v Speaker 1>here for five thousand years will be fine. That's really

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<v Speaker 1>what they're on right. So for the people that look

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<v Speaker 1>at this like, oh, this is fine. They're arresting judges. Now, No,

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<v Speaker 1>this is crazy. This should not be happening. And there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of steps that people turned to blind

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<v Speaker 1>eye to before we got to this point. At no

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<v Speaker 1>point should this happen this, this should have been litigated

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<v Speaker 1>long before, and indeed it was. But what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>is a regime effectively ignoring lawful orders from the courts

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<v Speaker 1>of the land. And it's been politics as usual until today.

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<v Speaker 1>And if there are people that rise up against this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not we the people, it's really just one half

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<v Speaker 1>of the country, because the other half is looking at

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<v Speaker 1>us like, yeah, we're finally getting our country back. Trump's in,

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<v Speaker 1>They're finally getting rid of all these illegals, and no,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is putting on a show. And yes, there are

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<v Speaker 1>some people who are not technically here legally yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you're deporting you know, one hundred thousand people, and

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and fifty thousand of them have never committed

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<v Speaker 1>a crime, then they're not illegal criminals. If you're deporting

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<v Speaker 1>people just.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventy five thousand, I think you mean five thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I meant to that. Yeah, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>again these numbers, I want to make sure that I

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<v Speaker 1>stated as clearly as I can these numbers. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>yet to verify them, but they come from trusted sources.

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<v Speaker 2>So we we tend to try not to get bogged

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<v Speaker 2>down with semantics. And it's not to be inaccurate, it's

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<v Speaker 2>to we're making a point that whether or not the numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not specific to the to the numbers, the exact number.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also don't want us to veer into illegals.

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<v Speaker 2>They're deporting citizens. Yeah, that too, I was getting there,

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<v Speaker 2>Like let's let's let's I mean, let's cut across the

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<v Speaker 2>grass though, like because they can try to soundly make

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<v Speaker 2>an argument that illegal should be deported either way, the

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<v Speaker 2>way that they're doing it is illegal. And how dare

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<v Speaker 2>this judge want there to be due process before you

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<v Speaker 2>just arrest, attain and deport someone? Like, how dare a

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<v Speaker 2>judge think that you should follow the law? Oh my god? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So they're the they're the party of law and order

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<v Speaker 2>until it comes time for them to break the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Said it best right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Until it comes time for them to break the law.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to say it with those words. Though. They're

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<v Speaker 2>the party of law and order and back the Blue

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<v Speaker 2>and all that nonsense until it's time for them to

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<v Speaker 2>break the law, and then they're anti American, anti law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 2>anti due process, anti constitution, and anti judge.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when they start looking at the same judge.

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<v Speaker 2>The back to blue all lives matter people are the

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<v Speaker 2>same get out of my country, go to some prison

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<v Speaker 2>in a foreign country with no due process, arrest judges.

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<v Speaker 2>The same people that were anti defund the police became

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<v Speaker 2>defund the FBI when it wasn't in their best interest

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<v Speaker 2>to let us break the law whenever we feel like it,

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<v Speaker 2>because we're right and it's our country and it's only

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<v Speaker 2>our country.

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<v Speaker 3>You go.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is a really, really disgusting time. And you

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<v Speaker 2>said the words civil war. Once upon a time that

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<v Speaker 2>could happen. The United States military is the muscle of

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<v Speaker 2>the President of the United States. We can't start a

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<v Speaker 2>civil war against them, like they can't happen anymore. It's

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<v Speaker 2>no longer a possibility. You know, we can march in

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<v Speaker 2>the streets. But if every American with every gun they

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<v Speaker 2>had took to arms against the United States military be

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<v Speaker 2>a very short fight. So the idea of civil war

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<v Speaker 2>is no longer a realistic idea. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>we're supposed to do now, you guys, let Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>become the president again, and he told you he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to do everything that he's doing, or I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>they published everything that he was going to do, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he threw up his hands and say, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what that is. I mean, of course, all

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<v Speaker 2>those people that wrote for me and were appointed by me,

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<v Speaker 2>but ha, come see, kumsah, why would you think that

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<v Speaker 2>that had anything to do with me? Until day one? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's run it. And now we are watching the entire

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<v Speaker 2>world become a far less safe place because of what

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<v Speaker 2>we allowed to happen here in November. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>really disgusting and dangerous and scary place for us to be,

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<v Speaker 2>and most of us, I'm certain still don't realize that yet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's a lot of going on about our day,

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<v Speaker 2>like we always have happening, And I'm looking around sometimes like,

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<v Speaker 2>am I the only one that's reading all of this stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I the only person that realizes all of this

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<v Speaker 2>is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>There's a stunning silence across the land. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>one person that is still active, or was still active

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<v Speaker 1>until she was arrested. It was Judge Hannah Dugan in Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>She did what was in her power, what she felt

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<v Speaker 1>was right. And you know, that is the sort of

0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:48.840
<v Speaker 1>thing that you're supposed to do. You're supposed to resist.

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<v Speaker 1>This country was birthed from resistance, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys may have read about the Boston tea party. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that happened because of tariffs on tea.

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<v Speaker 1>Just that all right, Well, for the last segment, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna shift over to some entertainment news. Ryan Coogler. He's

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<v Speaker 1>having a heck of a run. You know, his his

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<v Speaker 1>one of his partners, I'll say, uh, Chadwick Boseman passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was you know, for those that are listening

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't black, I'm sure you know, because you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be listening to us if you didn't know. But you

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<v Speaker 1>you probably know that that was a loss that we

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<v Speaker 1>all felt. Black black people across the board, we felt

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<v Speaker 1>that that felt special. He was kind of our superhero.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, there's a couple of times when I cried.

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<v Speaker 1>I cried for Nipsey hustle, you know I did. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from Compton, so that was you know, you know, southern California,

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<v Speaker 1>that lifestyle. That just felt like we shouldn't have lost him.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know Chadwick, that was another one where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Kobe, you know, Kobe was another one where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, that doesn't feel great to lose someone that

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<v Speaker 1>you looked up to. And so for Ryan Coogler to

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<v Speaker 1>then take take that moment, turn it into Black Panther two,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pay homage to UH, to Chadwick, and continue

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<v Speaker 1>to honor him, but also continue to showcase his excellence.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this is all of these things culminate

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<v Speaker 1>in this moment. Add to it that the movie centers

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<v Speaker 1>it has some sort of special deal with the movie

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<v Speaker 1>studio where the rights to the movie revert back to him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I've also heard that there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a cinematic universe for Sinners too, And so this feels special.

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<v Speaker 1>This feels on par with like the Tyler Perry's and

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<v Speaker 1>like the building of an empire, which it doesn't happen

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<v Speaker 1>very often for us, and so we love the idea

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.920
<v Speaker 1>of celebrating this. So when I share this I want

0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you to understand that this part of the show, we're

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<v Speaker 1>sharing it in that context. Okay, all right, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna share from Variety this year the Oscar season. Prayer

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<v Speaker 1>has a name and its Sinners. With Sinners, writer director

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Kugler, one of Hollywood's most quietly seismic forces, steps

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<v Speaker 1>into a genre long neglected by the Academy and once

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<v Speaker 1>again reshapes the game. A slow burned psychological horror film,

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<v Speaker 1>Sinners is not just a pivot for Kugler. Rather, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a proclamation. For more than a decade, Kugler has been

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood's quiet revolutionary symbolizing for the black community, a figure

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<v Speaker 1>akin to our very own Christopher Nolan. From chronicling the

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:52.040
<v Speaker 1>final hours of Oscar Grant's life in Fruitvale Station, to

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<v Speaker 1>reviving the Rocky franchise with Creed, to breaking barriers with

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<v Speaker 1>the cultural juggernaut Black Panther, Kugler fuses personal and political

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<v Speaker 1>story telling with mass appeal. Like a few others, Now

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<v Speaker 1>I want to share something. This is in his own words,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is just him talking about Chadwick again for

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<v Speaker 1>folks that aren't familiar to just bringing you up to speed.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I hadn't gotten started when I did and

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<v Speaker 3>graduated film score at twenty four and Mary Fruville at

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five and make Creed and Black Panther around time

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<v Speaker 3>being thirty. All these things were like Domino's for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And if I hadn't gotten that start, I never would

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<v Speaker 3>have met Chad Who's time with Solemnity.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that was him getting emotional there. But it

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<v Speaker 1>gives you an idea of one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say. I'll just go ahead and say it. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the fact that he is authentically himself, right, he

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:58.200
<v Speaker 1>has not had to dress it up anymore. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the way that he talks. He's from the

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Area and that's who he is. Oaktown, Oaktown, right.

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<v Speaker 1>For a lot of people to hear him speak, I

0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.119
<v Speaker 1>think that there's this idea, and it's across the board

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<v Speaker 1>of all races, of all walks of life, all socioeconomic backgrounds,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this idea I'm sure that exists that when you

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<v Speaker 1>hear him speak, you would not imagine that he's capable

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<v Speaker 1>of the complex.

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<v Speaker 2>Brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>H execution of storytelling, of creating a creating a series

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<v Speaker 1>of films.

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<v Speaker 2>Who wouldn't imagine, well, a lot of Detroit Mission, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people right from Compton, California. No, No, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, absolutely imagine that that brother is from the Bay,

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<v Speaker 2>from east here, from our cousins. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point I'm making, the point I'm making capable

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<v Speaker 1>of complex, brilliant Flip this table over, I got you,

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<v Speaker 1>I got you, I got you. Hear me out, hear

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<v Speaker 1>me out, watch this. So there's a lot of people

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that might hear him talking. There's a lot of people

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:14.399
<v Speaker 1>that will hear me and you talking just how we

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>talk and feel like, oh, I need to stay away

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>from those guys, and would not imagine that we are

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.680
<v Speaker 1>syndicated on one hundred and fifty radio stations across the

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<v Speaker 1>country and the words that we share with each other

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<v Speaker 1>actually that, you know, our part and parcel to the

0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 1>empire that we've managed to build somehow. And so this

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>is why I really wanted to have him speak in

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:40.480
<v Speaker 1>his own voice, uh and kind of share a little

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>bit of insight into who this person is, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that for this part of the story, at least,

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing that I wanted to share with people

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>is that you never know what you're condemning. You never

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're fearing. You never know what you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get away from. You never know what you're suppressing.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know what you're discriminating. Again, and how capable

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and how brilliant the mind might be. You know things

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 1>that things like like accents, A lot of times those

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 1>are regional, they're cultural, and in no way reflects a

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 1>person's cognitive abilities. This is a lesson I learned a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago because I said something in a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>once to a woman. This is an older white woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a teenager when I said it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about a person who had like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a thick like country accent, right, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, they talk like they're stupid, they talk like

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<v Speaker 1>they're unintelligent. I said this right that I was a child, okay,

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:45.199
<v Speaker 1>And she said, no, Ramses, they're not unintelligent, they're just Southern.

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 2>And she said it just like that, and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was just like a switch, right. And so I'm trying

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>to help create that moment for people that may not

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 1>be familiar with you know who Ryan Coogler is now

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 1>as far as the film. You've seen the film, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, talk to us a little bit about the film.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen the film twice, and I don't like talking

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 2>about it because I like for people to be as

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 2>surprised by the rich cultural weaving that he does with

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 2>the storytelling in the visuals, Like it's a tapestry, man.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a rich tapestry, and it's so colorful, it's

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<v Speaker 2>so cinematic, and it's so black. It's based in the

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<v Speaker 2>Mississippi Delta during the sharecropping of the nineteen twenties and thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really really powerful thing going on where these

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<v Speaker 2>brothers from Chicago come back home to Mississippi and just

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<v Speaker 2>and tap back into their roots and where they're from,

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<v Speaker 2>and their reputation precedes them. But you know, a black

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<v Speaker 2>original ip horror. I don't even want to say the

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<v Speaker 2>next work. Some people might know and I want them

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<v Speaker 2>to be shocked. So I'm just gonna bite my tongue

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<v Speaker 2>on that one. It catches you off Guarden the best ways.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so created, it's so different, it's so brilliant, and

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<v Speaker 2>what Cougler has been able to do because he's had

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<v Speaker 2>so much success, He's done over two billion dollars at

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<v Speaker 2>the box office already. I think he's thirty something years

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<v Speaker 2>old and he was able to negotiate that deal that

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned were and I think twenty years or twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five years, the rights and the masters come back to

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<v Speaker 2>him and his which doesn't happen. And he wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>been able to do that on prior stories because he's

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<v Speaker 2>telling someone else's stories IP that already exists with Marvel,

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<v Speaker 2>a story that already happened with Fruitville, an actual bio story,

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<v Speaker 2>and create so with Creed from the Rockies, you know universe,

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<v Speaker 2>this being his original IP. He not only negotiated to

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<v Speaker 2>get his the rights and the master's back, but first

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<v Speaker 2>dollar gross, which never happens. From the very first dollar

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<v Speaker 2>the movie makes. He gets his percentage, not after the

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<v Speaker 2>studio makes their money back, not after marketing costs, the

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<v Speaker 2>front run up front, from the first dollar made.

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<v Speaker 1>I need mine right now in the mighty name. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask you something. I think you're gonna love

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<v Speaker 1>this question. Do you think that Ryan Kugler creates films

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that Kendrick Lamar creates music.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do you one better. Ryan Cooler created a film

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<v Speaker 2>and Kendrick Lamar created the music for the film. It's

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<v Speaker 2>called Black Panther.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you should check it out, right, You're right, So, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, But you know where I was going

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<v Speaker 1>with that For folks that aren't familiar. You know, Q

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<v Speaker 1>and I we've had lots of conversations about Compton Kendrick

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's there's rapping and then there's what

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<v Speaker 1>Kendrick does and it's very complicated and there's always something

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<v Speaker 1>new to discover. And I think that you can find

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<v Speaker 1>that same type of rewatchability, revisitability, if you will, with

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Kugler's films, where you go back and you're like

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<v Speaker 1>all these neat little gems and then you have fun

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<v Speaker 1>to discussing it. So really excited about that. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>it for us. That's our time. So thank you for

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