1 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: All right, everyone, welcome to another episode of the Market 2 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Disruptor Show. And today I am I'm excited to bring 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: back a guest. We have Kenny Florian. Uh. He is 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: a you probably know him from the UFC. Most likely 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: he's a three time championship contender, long time UFC analyst, 6 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: host of the battle Box on Discovery. Um. He has 7 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: a podcast with Annik and Florida podcast and a brand 8 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: new YouTube channel which I'm gonna link to down below 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: and you should go follow it if you want to 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: hear what he has to say. But Kenny, thank you 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: so much for coming back and talking to me today. Absolutely, man, 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: thanks for having me so um. Yeah, I love talking 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: to you one. I mean, I loved watching you fight. 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: I'm a big UFC fan still to this day. Um. 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: But what I really like about you is, I mean 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: you have Hey, just a real quick interruption to let 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: you know that this video is brought to you add 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: free you buy block Fire now. 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And I can really have 37 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: this good business sense and the kind of a sense 38 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: of money and markets and things like that, and so 39 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: it definitely ties into what we talk about. So it's 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: great to have you back. But um, why don't you 41 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: just kind of fill us in a little bit. We 42 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: were talking before we started recording about some things that 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: you've been doing. Why don't you kind of still sit 44 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: on what you're doing right now? Yeah for sure. You know. 45 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: Um I I do that podcast with with John Anna, 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: who's the lead commentator for the UFC, and we've been 47 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: doing that for several years now and that's been kind 48 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: of recently taken off, which is great. Um. I just 49 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: started a YouTube channel where I teach uh you know, 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu and mixed martial arts techniques. I hand out 51 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: a lot of free information and um also kind of 52 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: breakdown fights on there as well from time to time. 53 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: UM so yeah, and uh right now I'm doing a 54 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: show called battle Bots on Discovery Channel and uh, you know, 55 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: always something to do with the fight world, I guess, 56 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: but it kind of blends uh some of the best 57 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: engineers in the world with with the fight game. Uh. 58 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: And uh you know I have I have a gym 59 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: in in the Boston area called Florida Martial Arts Center. 60 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: So I try to keep myself busy and keep my 61 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: hands and many different things and kind of have the 62 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: main main tree and then all the different branches that 63 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: come off of it to uh you know, diversify and 64 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: try to get as many different business things going as possible. Yeah. 65 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: So um that specifically, so you know I know that 66 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: you know, not only were you a fighter now media personality, 67 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: but you're also an investor and a business owner at 68 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: the same time. So tell us a little bit about 69 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: your investing in business stuff that you have for sure, 70 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, there was a time where 71 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: I guess I was kind of in real estate. I 72 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: had a few different places, um and you know, renting 73 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: things out and things like that. Uh. Eventually I started 74 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: kind of selling those and started, um, you know, opening 75 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: up businesses like the jiu jitsu businesses and jiu jitsu academies. Um. 76 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: And you know, as I got closer, um to retire 77 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: in the sport, I moved into doing media work and 78 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: things like that. So I I kind of, um, you know, 79 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: as I got closer to getting married, you know, got 80 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: married later and now have a daughter and another boy 81 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: on the way. Um. You know, I've tried to look 82 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: into other things, and Hum. One of the things that 83 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: really piqued my interest, I guess back in maybe two 84 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, two thousand seventeen, initially cryptocurrency specifically, UM, you 85 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: know bitcoin, and UM, I'm you know, very long bitcoin 86 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: I Uh, I'm a big supporter and big believer in 87 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: bitcoin to this day, and um, you know, crapt around 88 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: with with some other stuff and realized that is not 89 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: the way to go and just kind of just been 90 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, really just involved in bitcoin and just fascinated 91 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: with the space. And uh, it's been great to see 92 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: it really take off. And I think we're still in 93 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: the early stages of that. Yeah. What I love about 94 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: what you're saying and to kind of frame this up, So, 95 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean you you your your business owner. I mean 96 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: you're working, right, You're an athlete your immediate personality, You're working, Um, 97 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: you're also investing. You're also starting businesses and so you 98 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: kind of I think you said right, like you're expanding 99 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: your tree or whatever. Right, so it's like you're diversifying. 100 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: So a lot of people don't get that right. And 101 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: so that's why I want to emphasize that. I see 102 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: so many people coming into the world, into my into 103 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: my world, my space, and they their dream is to 104 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: quit their job and become this full time investor, and 105 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's not really how it works, right. 106 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: We want to be working and earning and owning assets 107 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: and all these different things. And so, uh, you seem 108 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: to have that part figured out pretty good at least UM, 109 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: I I tried. You know, here's the thing. It's like, UM, 110 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, being a mixed martial arts fighter, although I 111 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: didn't really have that style of just like putting my 112 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: body and brain on the line. UM, it's obviously something 113 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: where it's inherently dangerous and you know, a training session, 114 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: a fight could be your last. UM. And I think 115 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: it's important that you have backup plans um, uh, no 116 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: matter what you're doing. Same when when I got into 117 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: doing media work, you know, I always had something else 118 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: going on, and jeez, with this whole pandemic, I mean, 119 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: if I was focused on just one thing, I would 120 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: be in serious trouble, you know. And I'm so lucky 121 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: that I was able to do that and diversifying get 122 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: into other things. You know, if one thing is failing, 123 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: I got something else going on or another thing, and 124 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: so it's it's really it really has saved me. And UM, 125 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad I did it. It was one of the 126 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: most important things that I've done. And even you know 127 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: you talk about bitcoin and those things. I mean, it's 128 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: it's helped me a tremendous amount, and UM has secured 129 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: my future, especially in uh an environment or a job 130 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: where I am sacrificing my body. I mean I retired 131 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: at around retired from fighting at thirty seven. UM, I 132 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: had hurt my back really badly. UM. And you know, 133 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: if if your brain and your body is on the line, 134 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: you want to make sure that you're you're making the 135 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: most out of your money, that your money isn't being 136 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: diluted for all the hard work that you're putting into it. 137 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: And UM, I see bitcoin is really the only solution 138 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: to that. Yeah. So, UM, one of the things that 139 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: caught my eye, which is why I wanted to bring 140 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: you back on, is I want to talk about another 141 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: athlete who's who's been getting a lot of attention, who 142 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: also puts his body and maybe his life on the 143 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: line as well, and he's also seen the same thing. UM. 144 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: And we'll talk about that, we'll talk about, you know, 145 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: more investing, we'll talk about bitcoin as well. Before we 146 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: get into that. I want to jump into something else 147 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: that just kind of popped up because we were just 148 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: talking before. But UM, you know, most people watching this 149 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: by now know that I've recently left California. I've built 150 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: my whole investing career. Also, something that UM says that 151 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: money goes where it's treated best. So that means every 152 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: time before, like when I'm when I'm contemplating should I 153 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: go into this investment of this or this state, I'm 154 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: almost thinking where would it go to be treated best? Right? 155 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: Where am I gonna get the best return, the least risk, etcetera. 156 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: And and now I've put my money where my mouth 157 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: is and I've gone to where I'm treated best. So 158 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: I left California January one and moved to Puerto Rico. 159 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: But you're also leaving California. Yes, I actually, Um, so 160 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: I've been in South Carolina now for since October, I guess. Uh. 161 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: And in the process of selling our place in Los Angeles, 162 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: and um, you know, looking to move. I don't think 163 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna be here permanently. Um, you know, we are 164 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: looking to move to another state that just makes more sense. Um, 165 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: tax wise. Um, you know, whether it's a Tennessee or 166 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: even maybe something like North Carolina where you could still 167 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: be kind of close to family. But um, you know, 168 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: if you're paying taxes for things, uh, and you certainly 169 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: pay a lot of that in California, you know you 170 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: want to see some kind of benefit of that. Okay, 171 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm paying all these taxes, but what am 172 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: I getting in return? And over the last few years, 173 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: I've been seeing less of that return. I've been seeing 174 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: homelessness kick up like crazy. I've been saying, seeing a 175 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: lack of enforcement on a lot of petty crime that 176 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: that would go on in the area. And you know 177 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: the amount of property tax that I pay, and the 178 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: fact that you know, in order to have something like, 179 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: you know, a larger home for your family or a backyard, 180 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: even um takes millions and millions of dollars. And you know, 181 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: when you start doing the math and and you're asking yourself, 182 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: what am I getting? What am I getting from living 183 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: here in the States? Um, you start to realize, Luke, jeez, 184 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm reaping those rewards. In fact, 185 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: I'm working harder to gain less. And I feel like, um, 186 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, getting caught up in that kind of a 187 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: rat race. No matter what kind of money you have, 188 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: if you feel like you know your money is worth 189 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: less or you're not getting the same kind of kind 190 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: of benefits from what you're putting into it, then you 191 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: know it's time for you to look elsewhere. And that's 192 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: kind of what what my family and I decided to do. Yeah, 193 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: that's a that's a great point that you brought up. 194 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: You know, I talked about myself leaving, and then I 195 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: kind of focused on the taxes I went to Puerto Rico. 196 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: But I really loved how you put that because it's 197 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: not about like we don't want to pay our share, right, 198 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: And it's like I'm okay paying taxes and helping the 199 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: good greater community. But to what you just said, right, 200 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: it's like, but are you what are you getting back 201 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: out of it? And unfortunately California they're trying to raise 202 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: the taxes again this year, which will make them not 203 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: just the highest state taxes, but almost double the highest, 204 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean crazy. But at the same time, like you said, 205 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: what are we getting back? So it's like the number 206 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: one most bankrupt state, number one in crime, number one 207 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: in homelessness, I think, one of the last ranked school systems, 208 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: and on and on and on and on, right, and 209 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: so it's like at the same time, they're still like 210 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: they can't even solve this homelessness problem. They can't like 211 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: you know what, all these things they're failing in. And 212 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: I saw I was looking at this whole List the 213 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: other day, and they're still trying to get this high 214 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: speed rail system in. That's that's I think it's a 215 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: decade behind and it's like eleven billion over budget, Like what, 216 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. You know. It's like California has 217 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: a GDP that is greater than most countries. You know, 218 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: they're like like top five or something, and you're like, wait, 219 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: so what are you guys doing with all this money? 220 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got you've got all these huge businesses 221 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: that are in California. You've got you know, everything in 222 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: there that and they're taxing more than ever, yet you're 223 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: not seeing them do anything with it on a positive 224 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: level for the residents that are that are king hard 225 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: and paying their taxes and doing all those things. So 226 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, it came to the point where it just 227 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: seemed like, um, you know, you want to get out 228 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: before it's too late, before you know, things really go badly. 229 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: That that was my thought. Anyway, I'm not saying that's 230 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: what's going to happen, but it seems like it's kind 231 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: of going that direction. And they're parts of Los Angeles 232 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: where you know, if you close your eyes and I said, 233 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: I transported you to somewhere else. You'd think you were 234 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: in the third world country sometimes, you know, and that's 235 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: that's just doesn't make sense. Yeah, no, not at all. 236 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: And so that goes back to going we retreated best. 237 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: I did see something just yesterday pop up and it 238 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: was to Moth. I forget how he pronounced his last name, 239 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: but he's doing his name in the hat, you know, 240 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: to become the next governor, if if, if if Newsom 241 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: can get recalled m which is pretty interesting and basically 242 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: what he's saying. And he's running on a platform that 243 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: he'll drop taxes to zero, state taxes to zero, which 244 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: isn't that crazy. I mean many other states, I think 245 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: seven other eight states have no taxes. Um, so take 246 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: it from the second you know, the highest to to 247 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: know state taxes and you know, proposes a bunch of 248 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: other pie and this guy stuff. But it would, uh 249 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: would be interesting, and you have to think, right, like, uh, 250 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: at what point will they go shoot? Like we're losing 251 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: everybody to Texas and Florida and Nevada, like maybe we 252 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: should like pull back a little bit, but it seems 253 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: like they want to double down, and so now it's 254 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: like we'll shoot. So many people are leaving. I know 255 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: what we can do. Let's give him a ten year 256 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: exit tacks like right. I know, it's unbelievable, it's I mean, 257 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty scary, you know. Um, but you know, 258 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: Chamath is one of the smartest guys out there. I'm 259 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: curious to see if if if it's legit, and if 260 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: he wants to uh make a run to do something 261 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: in California that that would certainly be interesting. Now you 262 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: said that you sold your gym that you had in California, right, 263 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: You had a gym, so I had a business partner, 264 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: so I basically he kind of took it over. Uh yeah, 265 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: he bought you out. How how how has that been 266 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: affected over the last like nine ten months through the pandemic. 267 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: It's been extremely difficult, you know. Us it's the beginning 268 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: of the pandemic when I was there when I guess 269 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: it went down and March thirteenth, UM, and it was 270 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: really difficult to to get a jim going. Obviously in 271 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: the beginning, you know, I totally get it. There was 272 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: you know a lot of fear around it. We certainly 273 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: didn't want to uh make things worse. But you know, 274 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: among two months, three months. You know, how do small 275 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: businesses survive here? I don't. I don't get it. And 276 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: certainly jiu jitsu is one of the worst things as 277 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: far as you know, the spread of COVID. I totally understand. 278 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: It's the opposite of social distancing. Yeah, so it's um, 279 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: it's challenging, but you know, I think I'm not sure. Um, 280 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: you know how other businesses are supposed to survive with 281 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: everything that's going on. You can only do that for 282 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: so long. And um, you know, I think that the 283 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu business, uh and Jim's like it, um, probably 284 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: suffered the worst out of all for sure. And and 285 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: and then again back to other states who are open 286 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: and have their gyms open. And you know, regardless of 287 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: where people sit on this side of the aisle, I mean, 288 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: we have states that are open and their gyms are open, 289 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: and they don't they don't have any worst deaths or 290 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: problems that California does. So UM, you know, you can 291 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: have whatever opinion you want, but the facts are these 292 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: states are open and they'll allow you to earn a 293 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: living for your family, and so those things are important too. Yeah. UM. 294 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's interesting. Now, um again, now jumping into 295 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: what we want to talk about. Originally, UM, I guess 296 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: framing that up a little bit. So you've obviously been 297 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: thinking about investing for a while and starting business for 298 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: a while. So you recognize like you need this this 299 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: you need to set yourself up in the future obviously, UM, 300 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: and you recognize bitcoin, which I think a lot of 301 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: people come to it as like a speculation, like hey, hey, 302 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: just another quick interruption to let you know that this 303 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: video it's brought to you add free by Block five. 304 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Now they allow you to hold onto your bitcoin and 305 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: your other cryptos for all the potential upside, and at 306 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: the same time, you can earn high yielding interest on it, 307 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: so it basically cash flows. 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But I 318 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: think you've stuck around long enough. You stuck it through 319 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: that bear market that we had that we had, and 320 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: I know you start to see it differently. Do you 321 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: see that as something that is giving us like a 322 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: chance to opt out, like a lifeboat that we have 323 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: to maybe whether this storm that that we see coming, 324 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: do you see like a big financial storm coming? I 325 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: truly do. I see it as you know, not only 326 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: something that we can kind of save ourselves from, but 327 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: also deliver us into the future and kind of act 328 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: as UM. You know, I guess quasi banks, international banks 329 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: really where we can deliver money wherever we want, whenever 330 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: we whenever we want. UM. So I think I really, 331 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: I truly see that being the future UM. And I've 332 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: always been kind of fascinated with disruptive technologies like that UM. 333 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: And you know, for something like bitcoint, I think it 334 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: is something to not only hedge against the current UH 335 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: inflation that's going on UM, but also create a complete 336 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: different system UM. And I think that any time you 337 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: want to deal with the current system there there needs 338 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: to be something else that's built it's not just about 339 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: getting out of it. There. There needs to be something 340 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: else that you can get into and bitcoint has established 341 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: itself as that. And when you see that it's been 342 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: around now and it's has been kind of proven to 343 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: be this almost like unkillable UH forgan some of money. UM, 344 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: it just gives me that much more confidence in it. 345 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: And you know, UM, I think that people are still 346 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: learning about it and seeing what it does, and UM, 347 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: I think as people realize it's power, I think it's 348 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: only going to get bigger and better. So UM, the 349 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: one thing that kind of caught my eye is there's 350 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: a there's a big NFL football player, Russell at Kung 351 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: and UH. He's he's been a pretty big bitcoin advocate 352 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: for for quite a while year year and a half. UM, 353 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: been pretty outspoken, and he's actually been fighting for UH 354 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: to get paid in bitcoin for quite a while, I 355 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: want to say, like a year, and I think news 356 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: came out that just recently, maybe the last month or so, 357 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: that he was going to finally get paid in bitcoin 358 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: his whole contract or whatever. UM. And so as i'd 359 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: love to hear an athlete's take on not only an athlete, 360 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: but someone who believes in setting themselves up for the future. UM, 361 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: taking risk out of things. As you said, right you 362 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: you had your body and and and mind at risk, 363 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: and so you're trying to de risk yourself into the future. UM, 364 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: you're thinking about the future, you're bitcoin advocate. What do 365 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: you think about an athlete like Russell doing that? I 366 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 1: think it's awesome. UM. And again you know, uh, we 367 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: all know about the horrific stories of a lot of 368 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: these football players, and you know the tragedies that come 369 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: out of um CTE and UM, you know, the depression 370 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: or whatever it is that they suffer coming off of 371 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: their football career. I mean they're they're banging heads in 372 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: there for years against the most massive dudes on the planet. 373 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: So you know, I think he understands just like m 374 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: M A fighters or boxers or anyone really that, UM, 375 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: you can't have your heart earned money and time diluted. 376 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: You know, anything that we spend our time doing. UM, 377 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: there's a cost there. And if you're getting money and 378 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: it's being diluted by the FED and printing their money, UM, 379 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: it's a horrible thing, you know. UM For me specifically, 380 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, my parents are from Peru, My dad was 381 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: a physician that came to this country, you know, and 382 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: in Peru, I think they've gone through two different currencies, 383 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, at least since since I was born. Uh, 384 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, because of how horrible it was over there 385 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: with inflation. So that is a very real thing. So 386 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: for me, it kind of hits home that that is 387 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: a true reality. Um, you know, I have cousins and 388 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: family in Venezuela, and obviously we know about the situation 389 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: over there where you know, it's literally cash as trash, 390 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: they're throwing it away. So, um, there's some horrific situations. 391 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's gonna happen like that with 392 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: the United States overnight, but um, any time you see, uh, 393 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, this kind of inflation, it's horrible. You know, 394 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: in jiu jitsu or in fighting, if you're good, you 395 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: lean on your opponent and you let your opponent, uh 396 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: take all of your weight, and over time that becomes 397 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: very tiring. You get tired until you do something stupid, 398 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: you make a mistake or you tap out, and that 399 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: kind of what the central that's kind of what the 400 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: Fed is doing. That's kind of what the central banks 401 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: are doing. Is that they're putting the burden on us 402 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: and uh, we're working harder to make less uh. And 403 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: that's a situation that no one should be a part of. 404 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: And if you have the ability to opt out of that, 405 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: why not. And I think bitcoint is more than that 406 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: in my opinion, but it certainly is an answer to that. Yeah. Wow, 407 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: I love that. That was so good. That that analogy 408 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: that you put into uh into jiu jitsu about leaning 409 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: on your opponent, right, and you wear them out and 410 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: eventually you have to get out of that. Um. Yeah, 411 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: well said that's could definitely be a sound bite for sure. Um. 412 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: But you know, in regards to that, I didn't I 413 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: didn't know about your family and being, you know, having 414 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: having ties down there. I think you said Peru and 415 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: Venezuela and so um, I think that gives you a 416 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: unique perspective, right where like you've seen currencies blow up 417 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: you said twice, Right, you've seen Venezuela and that that 418 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: kind of hits home. And so that drives the need 419 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: the use case for you. And and unfortunately, I think 420 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: in the United States, so many people who have just 421 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: the dollar, the dollars the reserve currency of the world, 422 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: and they just think that. So a lot of people 423 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: they don't understand why I might need that, but but 424 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: it definitely, it definitely makes a difference for you. But 425 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: so you know, in Russell's case, I mean accepting that 426 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: payment in bitcoin, what do you think about that? Like 427 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: from a risk standpoint though? Right? I mean, he's gonna 428 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 1: put all his money into bitcoin, and like what if 429 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: bitcoin drops he loses that. But at the same time, 430 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: he's still kind of in his good earning years. He 431 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: can still make a lot more money back. I mean, 432 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: how do you think about mitigating the risk and something 433 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: big like that? Sure, um, you know, if if other 434 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: athletes were thinking about this and like thinking about following suit, 435 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: right listen, I think that you know, for Russell, I 436 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: think he genuinely has a um a faith in bitcoin 437 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: and he has already basically seen what is happening. And 438 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: to him, I think it's it's almost the question of 439 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: um almost religion in it. I know that bitcoin kind 440 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: of gets uh thrown around like it is a religion. 441 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: But I think that he realizes that he doesn't want 442 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: to be a part of the current system, and I 443 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: think he has a belief and and a certain foresight, 444 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: Uh that I agree with. Um. And I don't know. Hey, listen, 445 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: if I'm getting paid tens of millions of dollars in 446 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: the NFL, would I go all in? Probably not if 447 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: I'm being honest. But UM, I think maybe doing something 448 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: like half or or of that does make a heck 449 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: of a lot of sense because I think that, you know, 450 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: in this year, I do think that bitcoin is going 451 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: to blow up even more. I think this is just 452 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: the beginning. Uh. And if you're if you have a 453 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: long term vision for what people are seeing, I think that, um, 454 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: it's going it's going to grow exponentially over time, and 455 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: you kind of see it like, hey, I'll take tent 456 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: uh and I'll put that that's like my retirement money, 457 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put that in bitcoin. Um. And I 458 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: think that might be more of a conservative play. That's 459 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: something that I would probably do. Um, maybe a little 460 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: bit more, depending on how much I have saved. But um, 461 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, Russell is obviously all in. I love the belief. 462 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if every athlete should do that, but 463 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: I think it's something that should be considered by every 464 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: athlete at least have something at least that's something you've 465 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: worked your whole life to become a professional athlete, and 466 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: you know what, it could be taken away from you 467 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: in an instant. Uh And what better, what better savings 468 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: technology than bitcoin? In my opinion, yeah, yeah, I I 469 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: agree with what you said about Russell. Um. Of course 470 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: we don't know all the inner workings of what he 471 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: has going on. UM. I wouldn't advise anybody to put 472 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: a percent of their whole life into it either. Um socent, 473 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: whatever that number is, whatever you're comfortable with. But you know, 474 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he might have ten million of US dollars 475 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: cash sitting there and now he's putting another ten million, 476 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: so we don't We don't know that. Also, like I said, 477 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: he still has a lot of earning years probably behind him, 478 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: so even if he lost that, he go make more money. 479 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: Of Course, the future is not certain. I'm sure you 480 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: saw the news of micro Strategy, which is a publicly 481 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: traded billion dollar company, and they decided to put their 482 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: entire treasury about half a billion dollars into bitcoin, the 483 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: whole thing, and people like, oh my gosh, that's so risky. 484 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna put all their money into bitcoin, But they 485 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: make profit thirty million a year, So even if they 486 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: lost the five million, even if they're gonna have another 487 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: thirty million at the end of the year. So like 488 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: you have to think about the risk from from bigger 489 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: angles like that. But UM, I do love what you 490 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: just said, where you know, UM, athletes need to be 491 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: thinking about things like this, And it seems like athletes 492 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: and I don't know specifically for your sport, m M 493 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: A athletes, but for sure we know about football players 494 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: and basketball players going broke all the time. UM, and 495 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: it seems like, uh, you know, they're all college educated, right, 496 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: I mean maybe they didn't get much of an education, 497 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, but but but at the same time, they're 498 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: not really thinking about that. UM, and you've definitely had 499 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: a whole different perspective. Any insight into why you think 500 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: they had that short term perspective is just education, their upbringing. 501 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean, no one's helping me. Yeah, listen, I think that, Um, 502 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: A lot of it has to do education. I think 503 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: a lot of it has to do with the fact 504 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: that a lot of these guys are young and are 505 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: living in the now and just thinking about trying to 506 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: make as much money as possible and uh, maybe have 507 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: their priorities and other things. But you know it's so sad. Mark. 508 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: You know when I see and I hear these stories 509 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: about former athletes or former fighters, and you know, they're 510 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: not talking the same, they're they're not acting the same. Um. 511 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: They've invested in silly things like you know, how many 512 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: how many athletes have we heard about opening up a 513 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: restaurant and going bankrupt? There's things like it's horrible to 514 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: see and and a lot of these guys are doing that. 515 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: And you know the reality is is that you know, 516 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: whether they realize it or not, that they know that 517 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: they need to do something with that money. And I 518 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: do feel like, you know, it can be ricky getting 519 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: into other businesses if you if you don't have a 520 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: solid foundation or a good business sense. It's like, man, 521 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: don't get into things you don't know. But something like 522 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: bitcoin is worth investigating for people. Um, and it's it's 523 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: your bank account in the sky. Uh. And I think that, 524 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, people don't look into the future as much 525 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: as they should. Again, I can't stress it enough. If 526 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: you are a professional athlete, one you are one injury away, 527 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: you are one slip away from it all going away. Yeah, 528 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: it seems like maybe that's what you should be doing, 529 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: talking to these professional athletes and trying to help them 530 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: out a little bit, right, Um, because it always comes 531 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: down to like that perspective, right, and uh, it's about 532 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, having that paradigm shift and realizing like, shoot, 533 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm young and I'm healthy and I'm a superstar, but 534 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: like anything could go wrong. Um. Yeah, maybe maybe maybe 535 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: that's your next calling, Kenny. Yeah, maybe you can start 536 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: going about on your podcast. Maybe it's not a bad idea, 537 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: maybe it's something for the YouTube channel. But I think 538 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: you're right, you know, jeez, you know mc hammer, Mike Tyson, 539 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: all these other guys who had hundreds of millions of 540 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: dollars and they lost it all. It is very real, 541 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: you know, having the wrong people around you, or making 542 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: the wrong investments, or you know, having someone else manager 543 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: money that you know doesn't know what they're doing, and 544 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: there's so many things that could go wrong. And I 545 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: think that, um, you know, doing doing your research, doing 546 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: your work and thinking about the future, especially if you 547 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: have a family, is critical, you know. And I think 548 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are single and they're not 549 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: kind of thinking about perhaps the future. Yeah, one thing 550 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: that I've seen and we hear a lot, and I'm 551 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: curious what your own thoughts are on this, But one 552 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: thing that we've seen is that, um, you know, really 553 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: to understand bitcoin, you have to have this long term perspective, 554 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: as you've already said, right, it's about holding on for 555 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: a long time, maybe that retirement account whatever, um. But 556 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: when you when you can put your money into something 557 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: that's retaining or growing in value. You mentioned that how 558 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: these athletes, um, they have this money and they feel 559 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: like it's losing value and they have to do something 560 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: with it. But when you're able to put into something 561 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: that's retaining and even growing in value, it starts to 562 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: change your thought process all of a sudden, and now 563 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: you're like, shoot, do I really want to buy that thing? 564 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: Like like I have the money right there, like it's 565 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: probably gonna be worth more in the future. When you 566 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: have fiat money and you know it's worth less in 567 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: the future, it's like, well, shoot, I better go spend it. 568 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: And And an extreme example of that would be Weimar 569 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: Republican Germany when they're having mass inflation, or in Venezuela, 570 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: for example, in Venezuela, they might they might actually get 571 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: paid multiple times a day and have to go out 572 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: and buy stuff right away because it's losing vice with fast. Um. 573 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: So anyway, it seems like most people have had their 574 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: whole perspective shifted. Have you noticed that in yourself for 575 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: other people? Oh my god, I think that's like one 576 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: of the biggest thing that that bitcoin did to me 577 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: is you start to realize, wait, a sick what is money? 578 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: What is this thing? And you realize the value of 579 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: and you go, okay, so if this is gaining in money, 580 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: then do I really want to spend it on you know, uh, 581 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: this these this Gucci shirt or whatever it is. You're like, wait, said, 582 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: what was I doing? And you know, when I was 583 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: single whatever, Like I didn't get that still and I 584 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, that's a nice shirt. I'm gonna buy that. 585 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: You mean, you just spent a ton of money on it. 586 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: But hey, you know certain things like that. But when 587 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: you start realizing that your money is going up, or 588 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: your money has the potential to go up, you think 589 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: way harder, um, not only about money and what it does, 590 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: how it really is this this crucial trade that you're making. Um, 591 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: you really start to think more wisely about your money, 592 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: and you go, jeez, do I want to buy this 593 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: nice car or do I want to buy a home 594 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 1: for me and my family? You know, so, yeah, value, 595 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: you're trading value for other value, and you have to 596 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: see it that way, right, yeah, And I'm just curious 597 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: if it's changed, you're thinking more or I mean, maybe 598 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: this is a chicken or the egg syndrome. Maybe you're 599 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: already the guy who was thinking about your future, which 600 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: is why you got into it. Maybe sometimes it's the 601 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: other way around. But like once that spills into your 602 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: thinking on money, all of a a studden, it's like, well, 603 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: now I should think about my health in the future. 604 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: Maybe I should think about my relationships in the future. Right, 605 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, we go from this fiat 606 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: money mindset where it's all now Now now I'm gonna 607 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: have pizza and ice cream every night because I don't 608 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: care if it tastes good. It's all of a sudden, 609 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: this long term perspective where I'm like, shoot, I should 610 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: think about my health like all these other things, you know, 611 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: Like maybe it starts spilling over into our life. There's 612 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: no question about it, man, I think you could be 613 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: more accurate on that. I think when you start to 614 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: do the investigation of what money is and you compare 615 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: it to other things, and you compare it to you know, 616 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: the hardest asset in the world, like a bitcoin, you 617 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: realize that it starts to like embed itself into your 618 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: life and spread into all these different things, you know, 619 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: if you're doing the research and if you're thing thinking 620 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 1: about it, and and I think that that is, uh, 621 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: it's huge. You know, I've learned more from uh investing 622 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: in bitcoin than a lot of other things. Because of course, 623 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, money makes the world go around everything we do, 624 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: every decision we make, the time that we take to 625 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: do things. Um, it really involves money, uh, you know. 626 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: And I think that's especially true if you are trying 627 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: to look for the future and trying to provide for 628 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: your family. Yeah, now switching gears a little bit, um, 629 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: you know. Well leading into that, I mean, one thing 630 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: about bitcoin that's so unique and so revolutionary is that 631 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 1: for the first time in history, I can hold my 632 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: wealth on my own, I can have custody of it, 633 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: and I can decide nobody can steal it or manipulated, 634 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: And if I want to give us send it to you, 635 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: nobody can stop at a block and prevented and and 636 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: that's revolutionary. So it allows me to be sovereign. Right, 637 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: no government can tell me what to do with my 638 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: with my wealth and my money. Um. You being a 639 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: media personality and a podcast and a new YouTube, Annal, 640 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're seeing the amount of censorship that's coming 641 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: out like crazy all over us, right, um. And and 642 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: maybe you're not that edgy, you don't have to worry 643 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: about it too much. I have to watch what I 644 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: say for sure, because I'm pushing that line. But you know, 645 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: I hear a lot of people talking about, well, you know, 646 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: the government's getting so intrusive and socialtalitarian against us that 647 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: they're just gonna ban bit coin. UM. But I think 648 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 1: that like, if they want to ban it, they're almost 649 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: furthering the need and use case for it. Like, what 650 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: do you think about that? How do you see that 651 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: battle playing out? I think, without a question, you know, 652 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: I think that UM censorship is a real thing. And 653 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,239 Speaker 1: you know, we live in the country that you know 654 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: or you know in the United States. We live in 655 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: a country that is all about freedom, and we're staying 656 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: less and less of that. UM with all the types 657 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: of censorship you know, once I realized that bitcoint was 658 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: basically a separation of state and money, it was so 659 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: mind blowing to me that that's a system that we 660 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: just accepted for so long, you know. And you know, 661 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: I've talked to my brother about it, and you know, 662 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: I had my arguments with him on it, and he said, well, 663 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: it's not backed by the government, and they can't support 664 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: if you lose it. That's the whole point. That's the 665 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: beauty of it is that it's not and it's incorruptible, 666 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: it's unfunck wittable, you know, if you want to say it. 667 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: You can't mess with that money. And and that's a 668 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: beautiful thing. And um, so it's scared certain people. But 669 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: I think that we have to be very careful of 670 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: giving power to to the government, any government, because the 671 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: more you know what a cisterero says, uh, you know, 672 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: more government intervention, the more laws, the less freedom. And 673 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: that's what happens is you know, once they inbed, you 674 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: embed into your life, it's very difficult to get them out. 675 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: And and this is what bitcoin is doing on um 676 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: with the network, with with cryptography, with math uh. And 677 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, as far as banning it. I don't think 678 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen, because, you know, whether it's the miners 679 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: or the people themselves to own it, they can go 680 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: into and they can go to another country, they can 681 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: travel to somewhere else and use it um. And you know, 682 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: there's some arguments that say, listen, the network was built 683 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: with a code, and computer code is essentially freedom of speech. 684 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: So it was the United States going to go in 685 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: there and ban this freedom of speech, this code, you know, 686 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: the same thing people were talking about with the Internet, 687 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: that they were going to shut down the Internet back 688 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: when it was still you know, coming up in the 689 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: nineties and things, and you know, I think they found 690 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: that that that was not possible to do it the 691 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: way that they want. So I think there will be 692 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: some of that. Certainly, there already is, you know, some 693 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: regulation around bitcoin, but it's gonna be more difficult than 694 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: they think. And I also think it's going to be 695 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: one of those things where ultimately they're going to realize 696 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: the whole game theory um, you know, around it and say, well, 697 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: we got to opt in here at this point, like 698 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: we're losing the game. So I don't know, that's what 699 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,479 Speaker 1: I think but I think to your point, um, they did. 700 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: They did try to ban cryptography and make it illegal 701 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 1: to own cryptography the code and export it. They said 702 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: it was you know, munitions or military intelligence. Um. And 703 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: then that was defeated because, as you said, right, the 704 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: freedom of speech. They printed it out and they delivered it. 705 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, it's a bunch of zero than ones. Right. 706 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: But shoot, man, I wouldn't have said this six months ago, 707 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: but right now, I mean, they're trying to ban free speech, 708 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: so who knows what's going to happen with that. But 709 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 1: but but but to put put further to that point, 710 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, we have seen this this massive level of 711 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: entrenchment into the system now where we have people in office, senators, Congress, 712 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: people who are bitcoin supporters. I've seen a massive amount 713 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: of Wall Street getting into it. And of course, if 714 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: you kind of understand how the government works, it's really 715 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: run by lobbyists and the financial the financial industry is 716 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: who's lobbying the government. So we're really recruiting a lot 717 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: of people on the side of bitcoin. I also like 718 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: to say that you know, and this this might be 719 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: a little bit a little bit hardcore, but I mean, 720 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, in a year from now, we might have 721 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: a billion people using bitcoin. And if a billion people 722 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: don't want bitcoin to be illegal, then it shouldn't be illegal, right, Yes, absolutely, man, 723 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: I think you know, And you made a great point. 724 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean you have with Senator Cynthia Loomis, who's a 725 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: big bitcoiner, and you know other people that are in 726 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: Congress that are um aware of the technology. At Gensler, 727 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: who is going to be with the head of the SEC, 728 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: has experienced and knowledge about bitcoin and blockchain technology. So 729 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: I think these are these are all good signs. I 730 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: do think that you know, anytime you're trying to change 731 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: something as drastic as the monetary system, you know, there's 732 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fires that you need to 733 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: put out, and there's gonna be a lot of battleground 734 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: and um everywhere. But I think we're in a good spot. 735 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: Um scary sometimes, but I think, uh, I think we'll 736 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: we'll get out of this. And I think it's gonna 737 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: be a technology that will be accepted eventually. I don't 738 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: see how it can. So, um Man, you've impressed me. 739 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: You really, you really are. You're really deep down in this. 740 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: You know, you know the names, you know everything. I 741 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: like that. I like that. So you've been trying to 742 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: talk to your brother about it, He's still on the fence. 743 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: What about other athletes? You've been seeing some interest from 744 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: other athletes. I have, actually, you know, it's funny. Um, 745 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: I tweet about it every once in a while, you know. Uh. 746 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: But so I've had a few people reach out to 747 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: me and ask me questions. Fighters and other people. You know. 748 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: I have other friends that are fighters and former fighters 749 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: and coaches that are involved in in uh bitcoin and 750 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: other cryptocurrencies and things. So I always find that that's interesting. 751 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: You know. Once it comes up, you're like, oh, you 752 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: are too, And then we started kind of rapping about it. 753 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: So I definitely think it's something that is spreading, um, 754 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, And I always tell people, you know more 755 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: than any thing else, but before you're taking my advice 756 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: or anyone else, do the research, you know, listen to people. 757 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 1: You know. You were one of the first people that 758 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: that I found on YouTube and we're listening to and you, 759 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: I mean you you helped me so much and in 760 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: learning about it, being curious about it, and you answering 761 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: a lot of those questions. And I think, you know, 762 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: there is so much. There's so many resources out there 763 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: now where you can learn about these things, and then 764 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: you can't. You go down that rabbit hole and you 765 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: realize what system you're in and why you need to 766 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: get out of it. Yeah, yeah, great, well man, that's 767 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: that's so much good information, Kenny. Like I said, and 768 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: you really impressed me. I didn't know you had all that. 769 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were that deep, but that that's 770 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: that's really cool. Um. So yeah, you know, keep spreading 771 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: it on, keep spreading around. I guess so, um, I 772 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: guess we'll go ahead and wrap it up with that. Um. 773 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: You mentioned the YouTube channel, so I want to make 774 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: sure everyone's gonna go follow that. We're gonna link to 775 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: your YouTube channel below and your podcast as well. Anything 776 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: else that you want to say, No, that's pretty much it, man. 777 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: You know, thank you for for spreading the gospel and 778 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: helping people out and a lot of different ways. And uh, 779 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: thank you for having me on again, and uh maybe 780 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: we'll do it again manh yeah, thanks so much, game. 781 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you