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Speaker 2: Live in the Dream once again here on a fully

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Speaker 2: loaded sports Sunday. This is Fox Sports Sunday, and we

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Speaker 2: are here in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Welcome in

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Speaker 2: Jared Smith on what already is a monumental Sunday in

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Speaker 2: the sports world. Jared, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm fantastic, Steve. It's a beautiful day here in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: beautiful day for a game seven, and I think we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about it at some point today.

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Speaker 2: We are going to break it down. In fact, Jared,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take full advantage of you, as I

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Speaker 2: always do when we get this opportunity to be together,

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Speaker 2: because you've got all kinds of different props and everything else.

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Speaker 2: I mean, people get excited about any type of NBA

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Speaker 2: Finals game. This is a game seven. Later tonight, obviously,

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Speaker 2: OKC will be hosting the Indiana Pacers, a series that

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Speaker 2: no one expected to go seven games before the series began,

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Speaker 2: at least I didn't. I was with everyone else sort

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Speaker 2: of sold on this Oklahoma City team really sight unseen.

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Speaker 2: I'll get into that a little bit later, but I

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Speaker 2: got to start with this huge story. Obviously, the announcement

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Speaker 2: that Kevin Durant is being traded to the Houston Rockets.

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Speaker 2: And let's just talk about the trade itself right now, Jared,

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Speaker 2: because it wasn't like Houston just got handed Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 2: They gave up a twenty three year old Jalen Green,

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Speaker 2: their leading scorer averaging twenty one points a game this

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Speaker 2: past season, helping them to a two seed in the West. Also,

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Speaker 2: the blooding guts of that team, Dylan Brooks sees the

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Speaker 2: bad guy right here, Draymond Green. He goes out in

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Speaker 2: this trade to Phoenix, along with what is the tenth

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Speaker 2: bunch of second round picks. So just on the surface,

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Speaker 2: as you look at this deal, trading for Kevin Durant, who,

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Speaker 2: of age by the time next season kicks off. By

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Speaker 2: the way, I just wanted to go over games played

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Speaker 2: with you by Kevin Durant over the last six seasons.

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Speaker 2: All right, from the last six seasons, this is how

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Speaker 2: many games he has actually played. Ye're one twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: played in zero games? Okay, miss that entire season. The

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Speaker 2: following year he played in thirty five games. Then he

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Speaker 2: played in fifty five games. Then he played in forty

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Speaker 2: seven games. He played seventy five games two years ago.

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Speaker 2: This year he played in sixty two. So you give

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Speaker 2: up a twenty three year old Jalen Green, a twenty

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Speaker 2: nine year old Dylan Brooks for a thirty seven year

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Speaker 2: old Kevin Durant plus the tenth overall pick. What is

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Speaker 2: your gut feeling about who may have gotten the edge

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Houston. To me, getting out of Green's

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, they got out of that full contract. And

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Speaker 1: I do think with Houston still has the ability to

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Speaker 1: make other moves. You know, they keep on and Thompson,

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Speaker 1: they keep send June, they keep Jabar Smith, and I

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Speaker 1: do think again, because of getting out of the Jalen

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Speaker 1: down the road. And you get Kevin Durant, so and

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Speaker 1: you get a first rate like it just I do

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Speaker 1: think you do have a lot with Phoenix's long term

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Speaker 1: like it for Houston, I honestly do, well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the gut feeling in Houston was and we sort of

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Speaker 1: saw the surface in the playoffs, right, they needed a guy,

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Speaker 2: Need that guy. But that was the feeling with Phoenix had, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's why they got Kevin Durant. You know,

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Speaker 2: a sixty four win season, any and disappointment and they're like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we need Kevin Durant. We didn't get Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 2: and they gutted their roster. They gutted the depth on

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Speaker 2: to the level where you had the highest payroll in

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Speaker 2: I mean that it doesn't get much worse than that.

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Speaker 2: And so I guess the question is what value does

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Speaker 2: he's going to be thirty seven in September. So the

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Speaker 2: question that I have is, do you really believe that

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I also don't think they're

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Speaker 1: They're still a very young team at their core. Again,

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Speaker 1: And obviously you give up the draft pick, and that's

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Speaker 1: not ideal. The tenth pick is a good asset, but

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Speaker 1: if you had Green on your team, you know, what

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Speaker 1: Houston wanted to be aggressive here. I think for Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they got worse by adding Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: I do think if Kevin Durant's on the floor, you

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Speaker 1: But I still think Houston can make some moves here

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Speaker 2: All Right, So I spent a lot of time in

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Speaker 2: All right? Now, we knew there wasn't any chance that

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Speaker 2: You got Devin Booker, who's still the heart and soul

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Speaker 2: you add Green, You're adding players. Does that move the

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Speaker 1: You know what's what's that dynamic going to look like?

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Speaker 1: And again, this is Phoenix is they were forced to

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Speaker 1: From like an analyst perspective, I would have loved to

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Speaker 1: very reliant on Jalen Green, like he has to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you look at again, they had the

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Speaker 2: you know, every sport's different on how you spend money.

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Speaker 2: And they've done a lot to try to prevent that

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Speaker 2: cap goes up so much every year. It's it's such

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Speaker 2: a it's like the goalpols.

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Speaker 1: Are always moving. So it's really hard to say I'm

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Speaker 1: for against something that next year will be completely different,

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Speaker 1: and odds are it will continue to change because we're honestly,

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Speaker 1: really interesting next decade for them. Based off of what's

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Speaker 1: don't really think it matters, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And again when we talk about the situation with

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Speaker 2: first hand, you know, to watch this guy and how

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Speaker 2: he operates the Dodgers. He's he's a guy that says, look,

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Speaker 2: I have money to do things Forget the cap. I

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Speaker 2: understand the cap. That's not the problem. The problem is

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Speaker 2: expanding the organization something that the Bus family just did

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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, like the trend of Walter and

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Speaker 1: Conspiracy with the Luca trade? I've heard, I've heard. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you this about the Rockets now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that?

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Speaker 2: Well that let me I know we're reading the same list.

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Speaker 2: what exactly Mark Walter can do. All right, First, there's

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Speaker 2: Luca to sign a contract. Yeah, you know, that's a

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Speaker 2: that is over. Every decision will now be made by

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I think it's a tough situation. Frankly, I

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me can I jump in this or sir,

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Speaker 2: the idea because this organization does not need Lebron James anymore.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would say, fine, we'll give you your

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Speaker 2: So there is I'm telling you, Jared, I've been around

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Speaker 2: They're not loyal to Lebron, and the immediate excitement to

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Speaker 2: the idea of you know, Mark Walter walks in and says,

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Speaker 2: if you're not happy with that, we're going to get

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Speaker 1: I agree with that assessment. I think the youth is

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Speaker 1: it's a very aging roster. There's not a true center.

432
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Speaker 1: You've got Lebron, who I think at his career, at

433
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Speaker 1: this stage of his career, I mean, saying he's worth

434
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Speaker 1: fifty two million is just insane like that, that's just insane.

435
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 1: I think Luca's worth what he's getting, and lucas a

436
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 1: transformative player. I remember he's been in the finals, you know,

437
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: two years ago, but he had Kyrie Irving in his prime,

438
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: and he had a really good supporting cast that year,

439
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: really good defensive team too, some really good defensive pieces.

440
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: And I think that's another thing that the Lakers lack

441
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: is just that you know that fiery, intense defender who's

442
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna set the tone and be kind of the culture guy.

443
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest issue right now, is

444
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: how do you rebuild a team that is so strapped

445
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 1: for ash That's why they sold the team like that

446
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent why they wanted to sell this team.

447
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: And that's why the trade for Luca four months before

448
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: the sale happens is super intriguing, because then you throw

449
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: in the fact that the NBA will likely expand this summer.

450
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm hearing it could be two teams. And if you

451
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: raise the value of the most expensive team in the

452
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: league right before you expand, then you raise the rising

453
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: tide lifts all boats. You raise the value of those

454
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Speaker 1: incoming teams as well. Okay, I'm not a conspiracy theory,

455
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of things, Jared.

456
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Speaker 2: Come on, let's say I agree with you that I'm

457
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: not a big conspiracy guy either, except when it comes

458
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Speaker 2: to the NBA.

459
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: It's hard to deny this stuff.

460
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: And then the matter the number one pay chance of

461
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 2: getting there, it's hard.

462
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 1: To keep making it claims that there's not a conspiracy there.

463
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 2: Going back to Stern pointing out that frozen, you know

464
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: car New York Knicks again, I'm Patrick Ewing, So yeah,

465
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm with you on the conspiracy thing, but it's it's

466
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: beyond coincidence how things seem to fall into place constantly

467
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: in terms of what's best for the NBA. So, like

468
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: you said, it was very similar to you know, when

469
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: Bomber bought the Clippers for two billion dollars when they

470
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: had a market value of half a billion. It raised

471
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: the bar for the franchise value of all the teams,

472
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Speaker 2: and so all of a sudden, this arbitrary ten billion

473
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: dollars for the Lakers. I was like, wow, you know

474
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: this is it is more than a coincidence. So yeah,

475
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: call it a conspiracy, call it what you will. But

476
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: the NBA, by the way, what's very interesting about to

477
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: tonight's Game seven. They don't need the extender officiating a

478
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: game seven's not going to be on the floor, So

479
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: he's not on the floor. You don't need the extender

480
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: on the floor to We're okay, well, we'll just play

481
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: this one out. Whatever happens happened, all right. So we

482
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: got a lot on Game seven tonight, But first let's

483
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: find out what is trending right now now. Monci Jared

484
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: is a diehard Clippers fan, a true Clippers fan, I know,

485
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 2: And so what do you make of this whole situation

486
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: with the Laker organization? What do you think about the durant?

487
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm looking at your Clippers right now,

488
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: plus four thousand to win the championship, right yere?

489
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Speaker 4: That's right.

490
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

491
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: By the way, they're listed behind the Dallas Mavericks.

492
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Speaker 4: We're right there, you guys.

493
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Speaker 5: When you least expect us is when we're gonna come

494
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Speaker 5: in and swoop here.

495
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 4: Listen.

496
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Speaker 5: I think this is really great for Houston. Houston needed

497
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 5: a scorer. They could not give the ball to somebody

498
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 5: be like, hey, go get me a basket in these

499
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 5: final two minutes of the game.

500
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Speaker 4: And so I think that's really.

501
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 5: Beneficial for Houston, the scoring scoring by committee was not

502
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 5: working for them like it is for the Pacers. They

503
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 5: didn't have a guy. They got to keep alpri and Shangoon.

504
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 5: They extended Stephen Adams. I think this is a good

505
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 5: move for Houston.

506
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: If they can Durant on the court, they.

507
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 4: Can keep Durant on the court.

508
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 5: And obviously, like I also really like this for Jalen Green.

509
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 4: He was not it was not working for him in Houston.

510
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 4: The expectation he was.

511
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 5: Not living up to it. He needed a change of scenery.

512
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 5: I don't know what's gonna happen with the Suns. I

513
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 5: don't think the Suns are in any position to make

514
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 5: a splash, but I think they helped.

515
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: You had no choice, That's what Jared said.

516
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: But I'm looking forward to see what Jalen Green can

517
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: maybe get out of this.

518
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 5: Because me twenty three, but he wasn't progressing the way

519
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 5: people thought already, and so I'm happy for him to

520
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 5: be moving on. But I do think this does make

521
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 5: the Rockets better in a in an already hard Western conference.

522
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 5: I am going to give credit to Kevin Durant because

523
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 5: you know he had a say in this.

524
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 4: You know he approved it.

525
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 5: He stayed in the Western Conference, he didn't go to

526
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 5: the Eastern Conference. That is a wide open shot for

527
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 5: next year because you don't know what's going to happen.

528
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 4: So give him credit for that.

529
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Speaker 5: The Lakers, I cannot believe they sold the Lakers, Like

530
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: we're never going to see families owning teams like this again.

531
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 4: And for them to I get ten billion dollars is

532
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 4: a lot of money.

533
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: I really do.

534
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: But I don't know if I would have sold the

535
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: Lakers for any amount of money.

536
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 2: I really believe this because I've known Genie that. I mean,

537
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: you could say, all right, find the Bust children cash out,

538
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: which is great, it's great, you know what, let's have

539
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: the money while we're around to actually enjoy the money.

540
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: But her just her, she wants to get the legacy

541
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: back to her father's franchise, right, and they just did

542
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: not have the financial means and Mark Walter does so

543
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: she's doing what's best for the Bust family in terms

544
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: of cashing out, but also what's best for the Laker organization.

545
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 5: Movie for But is it really that you need that

546
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 5: much money with the second apron, Like it's almost like

547
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 5: having this money doesn't matter.

548
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: It's not about that. It's about building an organization, spending

549
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: top dollar for coaches, personnel, department, and everything else. They

550
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: did not have back to the money.

551
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 5: It's bringing in rambuses to her friends to run things

552
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 5: exactly like.

553
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 4: The problem was the decision she made early on. It

554
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 4: wasn't the lack of funds. It was just this. This

555
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 4: was a built up of back decisions.

556
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 2: Tyler was interested in joining the Lakers as coach. They

557
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: couldn't come up with the money that he wanted. Guess

558
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 2: who did Clippers?

559
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, clip, well yeah, well welcome.

560
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, it's an advantage you have, Steve Bombers. You'll

561
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 2: own it.

562
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 5: It is.

563
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: It is an advantage.

564
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: It is an advantage. I just I can't believe it.

565
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 4: I don't know. I can't believe it. But yes, durant

566
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 4: to the Houston Rockets. That's right.

567
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 5: Game seven, two greatest words of the sports Pacers Thunders.

568
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 5: That's gonna tip off at eighth Eastern and it's gonna

569
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 5: start soon. Game two of the men's College World Series

570
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 5: Final between LSU and Coastal Carolina.

571
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: It's supposed to start any minute now.

572
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 5: Tigers do lead the series one zero, and it's a

573
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 5: best of three series. We'll move on to baseball, where

574
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 5: the Yankees have taken the lead.

575
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 4: From the Oriols.

576
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 5: They are now up four to two in the Bronx.

577
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 5: It is the top of the ninth inning, so if

578
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 5: they hold on, they'll win this one. The Tigers have

579
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 5: extended their lead over the Rays. It's eight to one.

580
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 5: Top of the ninth inning. Rangers are blanking the Pirates

581
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 5: two zero after three innings. White sox on the scoreboard,

582
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 5: so they're edging the Blue Jays one zero after four innings.

583
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 5: The Braves and the Marlins are still tied at two

584
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 5: a piece. Top of the fourth Twins on top of

585
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: the Brewers at home to one.

586
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 4: Top of the second inning. The Reds are on top

587
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 4: of the Cardinals, Yes, one zero.

588
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 5: Top of the second inning, and cal Raley has homered again.

589
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Who would have thought that cal Rawley, the

590
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: catcher for the Mariners, is more home runs than RBIs

591
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: than Aaron Judge.

592
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 5: I'm saying he already homered in this game that just

593
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 5: started to run Homer Mariners up on the Cubs in

594
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 5: Chicago one after the first period.

595
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: An unreal under honestly, and thank you very much right, job.

596
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: I mean, wouldn't be unbelievable, Jared if cal Rawley, the

597
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: catcher for the Mariners, were to break Aaron Judges America

598
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: Leak record of sixty two home runs in the season.

599
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh, that's great, Yes, And how about this, Aaron Judge

600
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: is still minus thirty five hundred to win the MVP. Wow,

601
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: which is like, you know, you don't even want to

602
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 1: bet it because it's such an astronomical problem.

603
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Carowally ends up as a catcher with sixty

604
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: homers and one hundred and forty runs batted in.

605
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna get a lot of votes.

606
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: He's gonna get votes.

607
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: But I still think Judge will win it. I think

608
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: the only way, either Otani or Judge. And by the way,

609
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: I looked this up the other day because I just

610
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't fathom a time in history where we had

611
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: consecutive MVPs in the same league back to back years.

612
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: It's never happened. It almost happened in the early nineties.

613
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: We had Bonds and Frank Thomas overlapped by a year,

614
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: but they both were on the other end of it

615
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: was like ninety two, ninety three and then ninety three

616
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: ninety four, so they both won it one year and

617
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: then the other guys were kind of alternating bookends. But

618
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: we've never had at least not to my knowledge, that

619
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: I went back.

620
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: I didn't stop that time. I know the history of

621
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: the as how many a year, And I'll tell you

622
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: who won the two m vps anywhere. Just packetty your

623
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: team forty eight nineteen forty eight the Nation League MVP

624
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: with Stam Muzio's third and Lou Boudreau won the American

625
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: Leagume that's insane, Okay.

626
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: That Steve, that is insane, that you can do that,

627
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: that's insane.

628
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: But that's what I do. Jeriusy, That's that's what I thought.

629
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: I had useless knowledge of my head. I can name

630
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: every state capital.

631
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: I'll even make a one step further the runner ups

632
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: for the m VP. That yeah, Johnny's saying for the

633
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: Boston Braids in then actual league, and it was Joe

634
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: DiMaggio in the American League with the New York Yankees. Look,

635
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna we're gonna have to st I know brain,

636
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: all right, So keep keep the brain moving, all right.

637
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: So let's let's move. Let's move to the presence, right,

638
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: now as we get ready for this Game seven of

639
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, and and before we get into a

640
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: lot of what I want from you, Jared today is

641
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: you know people are you know, we've got an all

642
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: day long here is get ready for this game? You

643
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: want to make some plays and everything else? Might I

644
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: have to admit, So you know, I went into these

645
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: NBA Finals thinking, all right, let's let's look at the numbers.

646
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: You got the Oklahoma City Thunder who had arguably one

647
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: of the top ten least on paper regular seasons in

648
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: NBA history. They won sixty eight games by an average

649
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: argan of what twelve thirteen points a game in a

650
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Speaker 2: vastly superior conference, the Western Conference. And then on the

651
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Speaker 2: other side, he had the fourth seed in the East.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like, okay, you know we were making

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Speaker 2: our you know, pre NBA Finals predictions. I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: I want to say a sweep, I'll give Indiana a

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Speaker 2: game in a gig. I had, ok yeah, so exactly,

656
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: so you know that that's where we're at. And then

657
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Speaker 2: Game one happens, which was a repeat of what happened

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Speaker 2: in their Game one against the Nuggets. And so as

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Speaker 2: this series has progressed, and I've watched these lapses by

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Speaker 2: this OKAC team where they just seem to go brain

661
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Speaker 2: dead on the court. I had a couple of takeaways. One,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at their coach Dagnault, and I'm like, okay,

663
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: so this guy was a G league coach for them,

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Speaker 2: and then Billy Donovan leaves, they hand him the team.

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Speaker 2: At that point, Okay, see was a twenty twenty five

666
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Speaker 2: win team, so nobody really cares. But now that they

667
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Speaker 2: have ascended to this level and of course in a

668
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Speaker 2: great position to build on it, considering they have five

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Speaker 2: first round picks over the next two years, it seemed

670
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Speaker 2: really the right guy. Because when I see a team

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Speaker 2: with talent underperform on the biggest stage, as we've seen

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Speaker 2: many times through these NBA finals, I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: coach like, what the hell are you doing? What what

674
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Speaker 2: impact are you having on your team because you are

675
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: getting schooled by Rick Carlile, who, obviously, have people didn't

676
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: already know, is one of the top coaches in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: The second takeaway, I though had Jared is I was

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Speaker 2: based in all this you know, praise on OKAC really

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Speaker 2: sight unseen. You know how many times have the Thunder

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00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: been on TV? You know how it is. We get

681
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: the Lakers, you get the Celtics. You know, the usual

682
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: golden state, the usual suspects of the teams we see

683
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Speaker 2: the most of. And now that I'm watching this OKC team,

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Speaker 2: look shake Gildess. Alexander, along with Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan,

685
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: are the only three players to have three consecutive years

686
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: of averaging the league thirty points while shooting fifty plus percent.

687
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: That's pretty good company. And what he did in Game

688
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: four to carry that team to that obviously must win.

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Speaker 2: Spoke volumes Jayalen Williams, He's had flashes, and then there's

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Speaker 2: Chet Holmgren. Yeah, and I'm like two for nine shooting soft.

691
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: He gets pushed around, and then you're like, what else

692
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: do they have? Caruso. I mean, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: I walk away, regardless of what happens tonight, underwhelmed from

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Speaker 2: what I have seen from this OKASE, I just thought

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00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: they were something entirely different than what I've actually seen

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Speaker 2: in these NBA finals.

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Speaker 1: It's very fair. Holmgrim's absence in this series is very

698
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: strange because Indiana has no inside presence and he's shooting

699
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Speaker 1: less than fifty percent in the restricted area in the series.

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Speaker 1: They're like that that he's he is a unicorn. He

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Speaker 1: could not be shooting under forty seven and a half percent.

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Speaker 1: That's a field goal percentage for like an outside shot. Chrazy,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be making forty forty five percent of my

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Speaker 1: jump shots from the elbow, not forty seven and a

705
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Speaker 1: half percent of my restricted area shots for a seven

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Speaker 1: foot are facing a team with no inside presence. So

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Speaker 1: that right there is concerning. I think what Indiana doesn't

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Speaker 1: have is that elite secondary score, Like it's they're all

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Speaker 1: kind of secondary scores, Like they don't have the primary

710
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Speaker 1: guy right like they might be could use a KD tonight,

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00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: right like late game. Who's gonna take this shot? We

712
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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be Haliburton as Haliburton healthy, That's the

713
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Speaker 1: biggest question there. I like what Carlisle did in Game six,

714
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Speaker 1: took Halliburton off the ball for the most part, twenty

715
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Speaker 1: one fewer pick and rolls in Game six than we've

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Speaker 1: seen throughout the rest of the series. So taking him

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Speaker 1: off the ball, taking the load off of his lower body,

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Speaker 1: which obviously has had a huge you know, toll physical

719
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Speaker 1: toll in this series I think will help because you

720
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Speaker 1: get the extra day two of rest going into Game seven.

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Speaker 1: So all of those things I think favor Indiana. The

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Speaker 1: market really likes Indiana. We saw this thing open up

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Speaker 1: eight and a half and now we're down to seven

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Speaker 1: and a half, and I'll be honest that I'm starting

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Speaker 1: to see some six and a half s pop up.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Jared, hold it right there, because on

727
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: the other side, I got a couple of thoughts about

728
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Speaker 2: some interesting plays. I was talking to Jeff Schwartz yesterday.

729
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Speaker 2: He had some plays that he wanted to throw out there.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna break it all down with Jared Smith. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and Jared Smith with you here Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We're in the Fox Sports Radio studios. So, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna piece together some fun for you between now

736
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Speaker 2: the rest of our shows. We get ready for Todnight's

737
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Speaker 2: Game seven between the Pacers and the Thunder. Look, I'm

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Speaker 2: picking the Thunder win this game. I almost feel like

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Speaker 2: I'm rooting for the Pacers, though, I mean it just

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Speaker 2: it's it's really weird. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I would never do. I've rooted against my own teams before.

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Speaker 1: If I have money. On the other side, I don't

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Speaker 1: have an I have no loyalty, but my bankroll.

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Speaker 2: I I exactly all right, Well, let's I'm gonna throw

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00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: something out. Yesterday Jeff Schwartz throw out to me because

746
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Speaker 2: I was asking him about some of his best plays.

747
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: Nice and so Jeff threw one out that honestly makes

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00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. So if you're looking for certain

749
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Speaker 2: trends in this series, one trend, obviously is the fact

750
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Speaker 2: that coming off a loss, we see a different OKC team.

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00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: You gotta believe, I mean, how big is this in

752
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City? I beyond belief, Like whatever you think, like,

753
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: could this get any bigger in Oklahoma City? It's bigger

754
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: than that for this game seven tonight. So that place

755
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: is going to be beyond rocking at the start of

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Speaker 2: the game. So I don't know what the line right

757
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: now is on the first quarter score, but Jeff Schwartz

758
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: said what it was three and a half, four and

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Speaker 2: a half, whatever it might be. Take the thunder to

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Speaker 2: cover first quarter your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing about that particular bet, and I

762
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: think it's a great angle. The sports books also know

763
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: it's a great angle, of course, so you have to

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Speaker 1: pay a premium for it. For example, the spread for

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00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: the full game is seven, so if you divide seven

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Speaker 1: by four. I'm not a math major, but that's less

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Speaker 1: than two, right, Yeah, so you would think, okay, so

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Speaker 1: the first quarter of a full game should be about

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Speaker 1: one and a half two, it's three, three and a half, right.

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Speaker 2: So it's again you're still said he had three and

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Speaker 2: a half. He said three and a half was yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I could see them being up ten at the end

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Speaker 1: of the first quarter very easily. It's just a it's

774
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Speaker 1: just a bet that you are paying. It's like buying

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Speaker 1: bitcoin at one hundred and ten thousand, like you're buying

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Speaker 1: the top of the market.

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Speaker 2: By the way I saw your bitcoin, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Digging to it. So I'm a big I'm a finance

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00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm a nerd at heart, Steven.

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Speaker 2: Happened yesterday, it didn't. You get a little spike up

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Speaker 2: after a big down here.

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Speaker 1: I know. And then then geopolitical tensions, right, we're not

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Speaker 1: Fox News. Don't worry.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into it all right. So but these are

785
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: the type of things you're looking for. And like you say,

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Speaker 2: if the overall line is seven and somehow the first

787
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Speaker 2: quarter over unders three, three and a half, you're like, so, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they are expecting that Oklahoma City is going to come

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Speaker 2: out on fire. I guess. I guess one of the

790
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: things we're going to be talking about, obviously is the

791
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Speaker 2: Haliburton situation, because under normal circumstances, he should not have

792
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Speaker 2: even been on the court in Game six. Now, he

793
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: told Carlisle, look, if I look less than one hundred

794
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: percent or I'm hurting the team, get me off the court.

795
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Speaker 2: And Carlisle admit, I didn't see that at all. But

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00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: he only played twenty three minutes, and for the Pacers

797
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: to win tonight on the road, he's going to have

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Speaker 2: to play more than twenty three minutes.

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Speaker 1: Agreed. But I think they did a good job protecting

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Speaker 1: him too, a lot fewer picking rolls, he wasn't on

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Speaker 1: the ball as much. I don't think the injury will Usually,

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00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: the way these injuries work, it's usually more of a

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Speaker 1: factor talking of about it than the actual when it

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Speaker 1: plays out there in the game.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we're going to continue to break down

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Speaker 2: some of the plays and what should you expect in

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Speaker 2: tonight's Game seven between the Pacers and the Thunder. Also,

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Speaker 2: I want to look at some NFL futures. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've always talked about the NFL, you know that. Much

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Speaker 2: more coming up here on Fox Sports Sunday. Rolling along

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Speaker 2: here on to day we utter the two favorite words

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Speaker 2: in the world of sports. Game seven NBA Finals tonight,

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Speaker 2: Pacers and Thunder. Once again we're here in the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. Plenty more coming up as far as

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Speaker 2: tonight's matchup is concerned. Also, Jared, we're going to have

816
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Speaker 2: what has been a red hot segment here on this

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Speaker 2: show over these many Sundays Perfets Picks.

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Speaker 1: I've heard about this. Yes, very excited for this.

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Speaker 2: So and it has to do with over unders, which

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Speaker 2: is always interesting play in the world that you're very

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Speaker 2: involved with obviously, overs and unders. So that'll come up

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Speaker 2: a little bit later on that. Mark Medina, our Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio MBA insider, will also give us his final

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Speaker 2: thoughts as we go ready for this matchup tonight between

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00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: the Thunder and the Pacers. I want to get a

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Speaker 2: little NFL news in with you today, Jared, because you

827
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Speaker 2: know we had many camps, OTA's all of this kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff before everyone breaks for the summer, and then

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Speaker 2: of course we get ready for the start of the season.

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Speaker 2: And obviously a lot of notice from the get go

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Speaker 2: as soon as the NFL Draft was in the books

832
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Speaker 2: was the Shorter Sanders situation and how he plummeted all

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Speaker 2: the way to a fifth round pick with the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 2: a team ironically had already taken a quarterback in the draft,

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Speaker 2: and so Dylan Gabriel is taking to the third round,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, we're gonna throw out Shudor Sanders in the

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Speaker 2: fifth round. And and then and then the kid gets

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Speaker 2: busted for speeding twice in less than a month, Yanks,

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Speaker 2: And you know, and I know, and this doesn't take

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Speaker 2: a genius to figure this out. Any other fifth round pick,

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Speaker 2: any other fifth round pick that was involved in that

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Speaker 2: kind of repeat, Shenanigan's probably would be already gone, yepyeah,

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Speaker 2: we're just not gonna I mean, if you don't have

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Speaker 2: the maturity to understand what's at stake as a fifth

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Speaker 2: rounder doing whatever it takes to try to actually make

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Speaker 2: this team, because fifth rounders are far from being guaranteed

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Speaker 2: a ticket to the NFL. If you don't understand that,

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Speaker 2: if you're so arrogant to believe that none of that

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Speaker 2: matters for you to make this team, you're gone. Almost

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Speaker 2: any fifth rounder that would be a ticket out of town.

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Speaker 2: But not Uch Door Sanders, which and I asked again,

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz is yesterday Jerry as a former offensive lineman,

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Speaker 2: because I talk about by the nature of the position quarterback,

854
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: you need to be a leader, and leaders are not.

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Speaker 2: You can't be just you're the leader of the team.

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Speaker 2: That's not the way leadership works. A leader, by definition,

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Speaker 2: is someone that inspires others to follow. You have to

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Speaker 2: and it could be you know, your personality, it could

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Speaker 2: just be the caliber or your play, whatever it is

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Speaker 2: about you. You are a leader that people are going

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00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: to follow, which is necessary in the NFL if you're

862
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: going to play the quarterback position. And I only can

863
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: imagine veterans on that Cleveland Browns team looking at this

864
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: kid like your sense of privilege is overwhelming, yep, And

865
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: to try to respect you as a leader when you've

866
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: already shown that you don't understand a certain level of

867
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: responsibility as an adult. I mean, you, look, it's not

868
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: like look at I have my driving record at his

869
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: age was worse, to be honest with you, but I

870
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: wasn't being asked to be the quarterback of an NFL

871
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: team either. And so I just want to get your

872
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: thoughts now on where this puts the Cleveland Browns, uh

873
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: with this Shador Sanders current situation, because again, when you

874
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: look at the Browns, they probably were, you know, two

875
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: years ago. They get Joe Flacco off the couch, you know,

876
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: and they make a run to the playoffs. It wasn't

877
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: pretty in the playoffs, but they got to the playoffs.

878
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: Last year. It was just you know, they're not that bad,

879
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: but they need to have some kind of stability at

880
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 2: the quarterback position. But what's your overall view of how

881
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 2: the Browns should handle the Shudoor Sanders situation and how

882
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: do you think it will affect the Browns movie before.

883
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because when he was drafted, if you

884
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: go back and watch the screen shot or at the

885
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: live video feed of Andrew Berry and the Browns brass

886
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: when they were making the pick, it almost looked like

887
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: they were all on their way to the dentist office,

888
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: right like they just it was just like, oh, we

889
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: got to make this pick, and it makes me think

890
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: that maybe Jimmy Asl may to call something else happened, say.

891
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: I'm with you. We are all watching in the draft. Yeah,

892
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: and you could just see every every single pick in

893
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 2: the draft. These people are high five have ever.

894
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: You know, and that one pick was just like yeah,

895
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: So I think right there out of the gate they

896
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: kind of like the Suns trading kd They they kind

897
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: of had to take Shador And I know that for

898
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: two reasons. One, as we just mentioned the look, but

899
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: also you don't draft Dylan Gabriel in the round before

900
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: and then take Shador the next round, like do you

901
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: just that's not something. I think it was two rounds

902
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: later whenever they took Gabriel rounds well before they took Shador.

903
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: Usually when you're drafting a backup quarterback, and based on

904
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: everything we heard from Cleveland, they actually wanted to give

905
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: Kenny Picktt a chance, and they brought in Joe Flacco

906
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: and they had plenty of options, and so when you

907
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: take a guy like Dylan Gabriel, I think it was

908
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: the late late stages of the third round. Usually that's

909
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback and you don't double down on that

910
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: position right away, you allowed Dylan gabral to come in

911
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: and maybe win the job. I don't think Dylan Gabriel

912
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: like personally, I wouldn't have drafted him in that spot.

913
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: But Cleveland saw something they liked and they took him,

914
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: and then they took Shador And you're thinking herself, Okay,

915
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: let's give him a chance. He maybe took his medicine

916
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: here and hopefully he learned something from this experience. Obviously

917
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: not right, And I know he didn't commit a major

918
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: crime here, Like on the level of crimes, speeding is

919
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: very low on the list, but once you get over

920
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: that like ninety mile an hour threshold, then you could

921
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: really cause some major major harm to someone. And the

922
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: fact that there was just no awareness of the situation

923
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: right like after what happened. You're on a very tight leash,

924
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: very thin ice, and for you not to have awareness

925
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: in those situations, I think kind of speaks more to

926
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: the overall maturity level of Shador Sanders. But also in

927
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: side note, if I was drafted in the NFL, if

928
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: I was a professional athlete, I would never drive anywhere. Never.

929
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: In fact, if I was the GM of a team

930
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: in every contract, especially for the young kids, the rookies,

931
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, the guys that really don't have that maturity

932
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: level yet. I would mandate that they can't drive anywhere,

933
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,479
Speaker 1: especially after dark. You know, if you're driving somewhere early

934
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: in the morning, late at night, you're taking an uber.

935
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: We have an uber service, give us a call and

936
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: we'll pick you up. But I just think there's this

937
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 1: level of entitlement that seeps into some of these kids' heads.

938
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: They think they're invincible. We live in a very i'll

939
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: call it narcissistic generation. And now you're seeing the impact

940
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: of it.

941
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: No, I couldn't. Everything you're saying is right on the money,

942
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: because this is what it is. It is a generation

943
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 2: of privilege. Look, I have three children in their twenties.

944
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: Then I love dearly. So there are enough fantastic people.

945
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: But there are times you raise them right though, and

946
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 2: well I mean yeah, I mean their mother has been

947
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: tough on it and much more than me. But there

948
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: are times when I have to take a step back.

949
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 2: And you know how it is when when you talk

950
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: to your parents and in the old days and you know,

951
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 2: now I'm in that position, and it's like, yeah, what

952
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: things were and They're like, well, the world's changed, Dad.

953
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, but I mean there are certain consistencies about,

954
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: you know, how to be successful in your personal life

955
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 2: and your professional life. There's certain things that are pretty

956
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: consistent over the years. You know, if you work hard

957
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: and stay out of trouble and make the right choices.

958
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: I mean, life is just a series of choices, you know,

959
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: this way that way. You know, every day we are

960
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: faced with countless choices that we have to make, and

961
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 2: if you make the right choice most of the time,

962
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: that's going to work out for you. So but if

963
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: you're a repeat offender, I you know, you look at

964
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: the Cleveland b let me ask about that division in particular.

965
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm just fascinated by the NFC North right now, the

966
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: AFC North, they me, so, the AFC North right now?

967
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: You got the Brown situation and whatever that is. Right now,

968
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: you got a Cincinnati Bengals team, what they're over runners?

969
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: What ten and a half? Am I right on that?

970
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: Ten and a half?

971
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I think it's gone down a

972
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: little bit.

973
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the worst defenses in the league,

974
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: you know, and they were, you know, playing around with

975
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: the Trey Hendrickson situation. I mean, you know, this is

976
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: a cheap organization. Understand this, Mike Brown runs as cheap

977
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: an operation as there is in the NFL. And now,

978
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 2: no matter how great Joe Burrow, by the way, Joe

979
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: Burrow was my preseason peak pick to be the MVP.

980
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 2: He honestly could have easily have been the MVP when

981
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: you look at the numbers he put up, but not

982
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: on a team that obviously, you know, flames out and

983
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: doesn't get to the playoffs. He got the Bengals out there.

984
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: Then the Steelers situation obviously with Aaron Rodgers. But here's

985
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 2: the thing about the Steelers and the Ravens. So your

986
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: Ravens are overwhelming, so they can't beat the Steelers. You know,

987
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin basically owns John Harbaugh for whatever reason. What

988
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: do you make of that AFC North right now as

989
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 2: we are still far away from the kickoff of the season,

990
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: although he'll be here hopefully sooner rather than later. But

991
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: what do you make of the makeup and really all

992
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: the interesting storylines coming out of just one division.

993
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: It's a fun division, oh, I mean, it really is.

994
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, so the Bengals went total nine and a

995
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: half juice to the over, So it's like ten, yeah,

996
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: nine point seventy five. I would bet the under, and

997
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of moving parts to play. Let's

998
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: just start with Cincinnati. So why are you not signing

999
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson to a long term deal? That's the first

1000
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: question I have. And did you make the very good

1001
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: point about, you know, Mike Brown being a very cheap owner.

1002
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: I would even take it a step further. So, the

1003
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: longest ten year GM in the league. I'm not counting

1004
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones because he's the owner of the team, but

1005
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: he's he is the longest ten year GM in the

1006
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: league officially, but outside of people who own the team,

1007
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: the longest ten year GM in the league is Duke Tobin.

1008
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: He's been there twenty six years. He allowed the stench

1009
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: of Marvin Lewis to waft for a very long time

1010
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: until they finally moved on from that. They are historically

1011
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: frugal with how they not only pay the coaches, but

1012
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: their entire staff, right the analytics, like they're just a

1013
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: team that is not operating at the twenty twenty five level.

1014
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: And then you talk about the defense. They had a

1015
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: great defensive coordinator lou Anarumo. I don't know what happened.

1016
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it was personnel, maybe it was something else behind

1017
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: the scenes, but that fell off a cliff And so

1018
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: you're thinking to yourself, Okay, Duke Tobin, here's the deck

1019
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: of cards here being dealt here. Your defense is terrible.

1020
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: You've got a great offense, you have a generational talent

1021
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback. You signed t Higgins, Thank goodness, you signed

1022
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, Thank goodness he kept Joe Burrow happy. Keep

1023
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: him up bright. Because your offensive line's terrible. But at

1024
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: least you signed the guys that are the key pieces.

1025
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: But now you need a defense and you got Hendrickson,

1026
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: who I think probably was asking for a lot, but

1027
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: to be fair, he accounted for what he has, like

1028
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: seventeen sacks and back to back years. I think he

1029
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: was like thirty five percent pressure right last year, which

1030
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: is the most of one player combined. And then you

1031
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: don't he's not happy. So then what do you do

1032
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: in the draft? All right, you drafted guy to replace him,

1033
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense. And then what do you

1034
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: do after you draft him? Then you have this weird

1035
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: contract language thing where you can't get him signed so

1036
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: it just it's like, I don't understand the plan, Like,

1037
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: what's the plan you bringing? Al Golden did a great

1038
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: job at Notre Dame last year. I think the defense

1039
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: has a chance to be better, But you're not going

1040
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: to be better if you can't get pressure on the

1041
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: quarterback and the guys that you are tasked to doing

1042
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: that are not happy. Hendrickson, I think you probably at

1043
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: this point just need to sign him and shut up

1044
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: and pay him. And Shamar Stewart he hasn't even played

1045
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: a snack yet and he's already upset. So it just

1046
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: feels like Cincinnati is stuck in the mud, and it

1047
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: feels like they've been stuck in the mud. Doesn't matter

1048
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: what kind of here Joe Burrow has. What are the

1049
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: odds that he replicates his MVP season from last year.

1050
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: I would say not as not very likely. He's probably

1051
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: going to take at least one step back. So if

1052
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: you're not going to get that kind of production, but

1053
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: you're not addressing your defense, like it just again, what's

1054
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: your plan here, Duke? You've been now doing this job

1055
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: for twenty five plus years and it seems like it's

1056
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: your first year on the job, Like It's just it's

1057
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: a very strange situation in Cincinnati.

1058
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: It really is. And that's why. On the other side,

1059
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: I want to get into the Pittsburgh situation because I'm

1060
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: I'm baffled. I and I'll explain why why there is

1061
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: so little respect for the Steelers going into this twenty

1062
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: twenty five season. Also coming up, we're going to have

1063
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: the Perfets picks of the over unders. Chris, are you

1064
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: going to be ready for that? At some point?

1065
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 6: We're always ready, always the s to this though, Yes,

1066
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 6: oh wow, I branding, branding needs to be.

1067
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: The Perfet picks. But I say, because they are your picks. No,

1068
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: I know this.

1069
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 6: This is like listen, I grew up around Michigan and

1070
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 6: let me tell you, we are the kings of adding

1071
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 6: an s onto it. There is a grocery store up

1072
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Speaker 6: there called Meyer and everyone talks about is Myers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so like yeah, well, it's the same thing with

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00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals and the Stanley Cup Final. Yes, so

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Speaker 2: you go final.

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Speaker 1: A jay just like everyone thinks.

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Speaker 2: Right, we roll on here. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

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00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and Jared Smith Fox Sports Sunday. We're in

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. I'm gonna get my thoughts

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00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: on the Steelers situation. But first it's that time, precise,

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00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: profitable over under a half a flagrant?

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00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: Are your perfect picks?

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00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 7: All right?

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00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: So the perfet picks? Chris? Yes, how's the look today?

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00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: It's all you need to update us. So from the standings,

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00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: where are we right? So, Jared, first off, welcome to

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00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: the perfect picks.

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Speaker 6: I did get DJ's picks on the side here, so

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Speaker 6: at least have that for the record. But Jared, you

1090
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 6: are more than free, as our guest, obviously, to make

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Speaker 6: any of the picks you want here.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I might, if I might do this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So you say that you have Vj's pick, Well, I'm

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00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 2: going to do it. Do you want to not? If

1095
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 2: you're not cheating, you're not trying, I'm gonna. I'm gonna

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00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 2: then have Jared make his picks. And then they saw

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00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: those two picks, and I'll make my picks. Yeah, I

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00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: won't help you. Okay, Well we'll see where are the

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00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: current standings?

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Speaker 6: So I think VJ had expected this. As we get closer,

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Speaker 6: a couple notes here. First off, let's go over the

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00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,479
Speaker 6: picks we had from last week days until the knicks Hire.

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00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 6: The knicks hire a head coach. We did have that

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Speaker 6: at seven and a half. There still hasn't been one yet.

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00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 6: I am going to say that is going over. So

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00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 6: that is a point to Steve and that front times.

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Speaker 6: My dad will appear on TV during Oakmont, Jared, my

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00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 6: dad is a USGA official and goes to the Yes,

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00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 6: he did not appear on Father's Day unfortunately, So that

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00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 6: is a.

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00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: Point to both you and VJ.

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00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 6: And USA in the Gold Cup has won two matches,

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00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 6: so I mean six points, they go over three and

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00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 6: a half.

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00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 2: That is your loss, Steve.

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00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 3: Yes.

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00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 6: And then fun thing happened with the College World Series

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00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 6: Jello shots. So you guys told me seven thousand and

1119
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 6: a half was wildly over LS who wasn't gonna yes,

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Speaker 6: get in at LSU wasn't there. So not only is

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00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 6: LSU in the final, this is all moot because Thursday night,

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00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 6: Coastal Carolina hit seven and thirty five yellow shots. In fact,

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Speaker 6: if you look at the big board right now at

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Speaker 6: Rocos of the eight schools in the College World Series,

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Speaker 6: half are under seven thousand and the other half are

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00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 6: actually they're actually over eight.

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Speaker 2: Thousands, right, So Jared are you aware of this jello

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Speaker 2: shot thing. Yeah, so I chose obliterating all records.

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Speaker 6: I just want to say, regardless of how this is

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00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 6: fantastic book making skills by me, if you.

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00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: Again, I didn't think Lsu is going to be a

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00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: factor some about my bruins of knock him out.

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Speaker 6: The problem is that we had a pretty low score.

1134
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 6: I found a sheet of bets that I had not

1135
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 6: tabulated to the final score, so that actually puts our

1136
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Speaker 6: running total right now at Steve at thirteen vj at nine.

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00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: So there's a little bit of nine. It was one

1138
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: of those banner weeks for you. That's funny because he

1139
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: texted me growing about how he was dominating me in

1140
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Speaker 2: the Perfect Picks.

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Speaker 6: Well, you guys, you guys basically spent last week two

1142
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 6: to two was basically what happened.

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00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: So thirteen nine, all right, So what do we have today, Chris?

1144
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Speaker 6: Well, since you guys were just talking, you want to

1145
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 6: get the NFL Future out of the way. We've been

1146
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 6: doing the NFL Future every week sometimes too. Let's go

1147
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 6: Since you guys were talking about Shader Sanders and his speeding,

1148
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 6: and I really wanted to put down a total here

1149
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 6: of the speed Jedter Sanders. This next caught at over

1150
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 6: under ninety five and a half miles per hour. But

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00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 6: I know that's not really fair, so we'll just do

1152
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 6: the Browns season total, which is set for the amazing

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Speaker 6: Shudter Sanders and his Gagley co court at five and

1154
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 6: a half.

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00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: Five and a half. Five and a half is the

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00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: total for the Browns. By the way, if I got

1157
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: to update Jared on this, So this entire segment Jared started.

1158
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: So I was sitting this is the Orgrey Show, and

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00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: Chris looks at me and he goes the give me

1160
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: over under on Sanders snaps in the take in the

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Speaker 2: regular season for the Browns. I go, what's your overrunning

1162
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: goes a half. In other words, he either will or

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00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: won't take a single snap.

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00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: I think he will take it, and.

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00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: Me J Husky is a big fan of shod Or Sanders,

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00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 2: So why don't you throw that out to VJ. See

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00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: how he reacts. And that's how this segment all began.

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00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: All right, So the over under five and a half

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00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: for the five and a half for the Browns. Yes, wow. Now,

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Speaker 2: as VJ made his pick not on the Browns. No,

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Speaker 2: I told him this one we would do.

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Speaker 6: I would talk with him next time, but he was

1173
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 6: in a hurry to get places.

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00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: All right, Jared, where do you stand? Because we were

1175
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: talking about this AFC North right now. Five and a

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00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: half over under where you stand on this one? I

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Speaker 2: would go.

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00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: Over on the Browns. It's a really low number. A

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00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: Their roster's not terrible, it's really just a quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: If they can get any kind of average quarterback play,

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Speaker 1: I think they're a six or seven one team for sure.

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00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 2: Well, you look at the quarterback situation again, something Jeff

1183
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: Schwartz talked about yesterday. Jerry, really have two battles right now.

1184
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: The Chador Sanders situation with Dylan Gabriel, at least temporarily

1185
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 2: is for the backup shop. Doesn't mean they're not going

1186
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: to bolt be on the roster, but one of those

1187
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: two will be the backup. The battle for the starting

1188
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: job is between Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett, and only

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Speaker 2: one of those guys obviously will remain on the team.

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Speaker 2: I tend to agree with you. Five and a half

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Speaker 2: just sounds like a really low number for a team

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Speaker 2: that obviously has certainly above average defense at the very

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Speaker 2: least yep.

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Speaker 1: And they've got a good coach like I think Stefanski, Like,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to get the most out of one

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Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks, I think you've got the right light

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Speaker 1: coach to do it well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the way he savaged the season a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago. You know, uh yeah, I would tend

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Speaker 2: to go over on this one. So I'm going to

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Speaker 2: go over five and a half.

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Speaker 6: And for the record, I also am like a big

1203
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Speaker 6: believer in Dylan Gabriel. Not for a long term, but

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Speaker 6: I think you can get a one year flash out

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Speaker 6: of him.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: I think that's one of those guys why I was

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Speaker 6: talking to Shedar Sanders snaps.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of those guys, Jared that I'm not

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Speaker 2: quite sure why people do not believe. You can say, well,

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Speaker 2: he's not tall, Okay, it's basically the same height as

1212
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Speaker 2: two a tongue by Lola. Drew Brees wasn't tall. Yeah,

1213
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot there's a ways to do this with

1214
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Speaker 2: a shorter quarterback. And if you look at his six

1215
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: years in cop he never had a bad season ever.

1216
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Speaker 2: I mean every single place he played, his numbers were

1217
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Speaker 2: almost identical, and his efficiency was really off the charts

1218
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Speaker 2: any won. So I'm not say why people are completely

1219
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: dismissing Dylan Gabriel as at least, at the very least

1220
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Speaker 2: a short term option for the Browns.

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Speaker 1: All right, I would say the reason is more arm

1222
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: strength and size than anything else. Like that's that's the

1223
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Speaker 1: only reason why.

1224
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Speaker 2: Again, we've seen quarterbacks a similar stature.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, we will continue on with the

1227
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Speaker 2: perfect picks. But first let's find out what is a

1228
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: trending right now? And look at mont see here, I am,

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Speaker 2: yes here, I am.

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Speaker 4: I know it didn't seem like I would say you always.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure now I'm hiszle. I'm hiszle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, big story in the NBA as fifteen times NBA.

1233
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 4: All Star, Kevin Durant is on the move.

1234
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 5: The Sons are trading him to the Rockets in exchange

1235
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 5: for Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, the tenth overall pick in

1236
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 5: this year's draft, and five second round picks. ESPN with story.

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Speaker 5: Here's Kevin Durant speaking to Kay Adams today at Fanatics

1238
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 5: fan Fest or fanatics Fest.

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Speaker 4: You are smiling. What did that feel like? How do

1240
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 4: you feel? How happy are you?

1241
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 8: Know when people could just hang your career in the

1243
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 8: balance like that and just choose what they want to

1244
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 8: do with your careers and their record, Feller, But being

1245
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 8: able to kind of dictate what you want to do

1246
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 8: and then being with a team that values you and.

1247
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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it, Kevin.

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Speaker 4: People are going to hold on to that dictate what

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Speaker 4: you want to do. Did you have a hand in it?

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Speaker 8: Most definitely. I mean they actually get where I wanted

1251
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 8: to go, some of my destinations I gave him to him.

1252
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 8: Here we are.

1253
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Speaker 4: Most definitely. We knew you had to handle it, So

1254
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 4: no surprise there. But yeah, two greatest words in sports.

1255
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Speaker 4: As you said, it's Steve.

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Speaker 5: Game seven between the Pacers and the Thunder that's gonna

1257
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 5: tip off at eight eastern. We got Game two of

1258
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 5: the Men's College World Series Final between LSU and Coastal Carolina.

1259
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Speaker 4: They are tied at one apiece.

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Speaker 5: It's the bottom of the third inning, but in the

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Speaker 5: first inning, the umpire ejected Coastal Carolina's head coach Kevin

1262
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Speaker 5: Schnall and first base coach Matt Schilling in the first inning.

1263
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 5: I tried to watch because I have it on, but

1264
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 5: when I don't have sound on. I'm like, what happened here?

1265
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 5: I found a video and it just looks like the

1266
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 5: coach asks for the count from the dugout and the.

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Speaker 2: Umpire okay, you know what that is out.

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Speaker 9: But first sinning out rageous and then he ges ever,

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01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 9: this umpire is you just lost your job because for

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Speaker 9: the NCAA to have a manager and a coach ejected

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Speaker 9: the first inning of a must win game in the

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Speaker 9: finals of the College World Series.

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Speaker 2: That is putting your ego over what's best for the game.

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Speaker 5: One hundred percent, you guys, it's un It was unreal.

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Speaker 5: And then obviously after he was ejected, Kevin Schannat came

1276
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 5: out of the dugout and really started arguing because he

1277
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 5: was already ejected, and all the umpires kind of like

1278
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 5: came up to him.

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Speaker 4: One umpire fell made the situation worse. He didn't get pushed,

1280
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Speaker 4: but he fell.

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Speaker 5: And then Matt Schilling, who was probably defending his manager,

1282
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 5: then got ejected on again first inning of this must

1283
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 5: win game for Coastal Carolina because it's the best of

1284
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 5: three series and LISU the Tigers lead the series one zero.

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01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 5: Crazy day already, all right, the Pirates are up on

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Speaker 5: the Rangers seven to It's the top of the sixth inning.

1287
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 4: Blue Jays are edging the White Sox two to one.

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01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 5: Bottom of the seventh, the Braves and the Marlins were

1289
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 5: tied not anymore.

1290
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 4: Miami up five to three.

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01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 5: Top of the seventh, the Birds and the Twins were

1292
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 5: tied not anymore of Milwaukee of five to three. After

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01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 5: four innings, the Reds and the Cardinals are tied at

1294
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 5: one apiece.

1295
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 4: Top of the fifth. Marin are still on top of

1296
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 4: the Cups four to one.

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Speaker 5: Top of the fifth, yat Kyle Rawley with his thirty

1298
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 5: first homer of the season. The Diamondbacks on the scoreboard

1299
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 5: first against the Rockies one zero.

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01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 2: Top of the second inning.

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01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 5: The Tigers have officially outscored the Rays nine three, and

1302
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 5: the Yankees topped.

1303
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 4: The Orioles four to two. There's golf going on.

1304
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 5: Tommy Fleet, who is in the lead at the final

1305
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 5: round of the Travelers Championship fourteen under overall.

1306
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: Keegan Bradley is.

1307
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 4: One shot back back to you, guys.

1308
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: I am watching this right now.

1309
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 9: Real, this is outrageous, real, there's nothing happened, Nothing happened.

1310
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: I don't care what he said or situated enof bombs.

1311
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: I don't care you keep him in there, you know

1312
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, JD, like.

1313
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: I really did, especially well, I think you have to

1314
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: like commit like a felony on the field to get

1315
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: kicked out in an elimination gamel You.

1316
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 4: Would think so, You would think so he was.

1317
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 5: He was in his dugout and I really do think

1318
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 5: he just asked for the count, maybe disagreed on a

1319
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 5: ball or strike when there were ten pitches at this point.

1320
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: No, unreal, that is unbelievable. By the way. You know,

1321
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: they had won what twenty five games a row, and

1322
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: then yes, ran into a kid that probably would be

1323
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: the first baking the baseball draft coming up. Uh phenomena.

1324
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: I love seeing complete game shut up.

1325
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you.

1326
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: Remember the old days, don't you, Jarre Well you actually

1327
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: saw an occasional complete game, a shutout, you know, something

1328
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: like that.

1329
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: Well unless Shorek's Google, Yeah, Google can still do it

1330
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: all right, Well, Montsi, thank you very very much.

1331
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 2: By the way, We're in the Fox Sports Radio studios,

1332
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: and be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio

1333
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: YouTube channel a ton of great videos from many of

1334
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio shows. Just search Fox Sports Radio

1335
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: on YouTube. You see a whole bunch of video highlights

1336
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: from our shows, and be sure to subscribe so you

1337
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 2: always have instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos

1338
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: on YouTube. All right back to our perfet picks.

1339
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 6: You got one future in the books, one future in

1340
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 6: the books, and now we got three for the week here.

1341
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 6: We're going to try to move a little quick on this,

1342
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 6: but Caitlin Clark feels like every week.

1343
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: There is a new person to get.

1344
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 6: This feels like WWE a little bit in that she's

1345
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 6: helping to put over other people that we now get

1346
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 6: to know the names. So I am setting this line

1347
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 6: here at Caitlin Clark, and this is very important.

1348
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 2: I've included drdls here, so listen closely.

1349
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 6: Kaitlyn Clark related scuffles, fights and dust ups my next

1350
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 6: show over under a half.

1351
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: I don't under.

1352
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 2: You don't think there's going to be anymore took me over?

1353
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think Sophie Cunningham is now the

1354
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: Dennis Robin of the of the league, and I think

1355
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: she's going to prevent like we needed finding someone to

1356
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: step up and have Kaylyn Clark's back, and I think

1357
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: we have that now. So I think that will and Also,

1358
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: my guess is that you'll start to see the rets

1359
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: at some point.

1360
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 2: You know, type Well isn't amazing now the WNBA grabbing

1361
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 2: headlines during the NBA Finals, because that's what they've been

1362
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 2: doing as long as you have the focus on Kaylen Well.

1363
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: We made this argument the other day, who is is

1364
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: Kaitlin Clark? If you look at Steph Curry and Lebron

1365
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 2: James is still the most prominent faces of the NBA.

1366
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark's in the same company, is she not Kaylyn Clark.

1367
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I'll say this right now, and I

1368
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: have no And if you hate this cake, feel free

1369
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: to at me. Jared Smith bets on X and I'll

1370
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: argue back and forth with it. Caitlin Clark's the most

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01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: influential athlete on the planet right now. I'm Ron James

1372
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: misses a game, and he's miss plenty of them. We

1373
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: have plenty of data to go off of here. The

1374
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: ratings don't drop fifty percent When MJ missed the game

1375
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: in his prime, the ratings didn't drop fifty percent. Let's

1376
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: put this in perspective for a minute. Stanley Cup Final,

1377
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: the final game, Game six two point eight million viewers.

1378
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: The Liberty Fever game the other day two point two

1379
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: million viewers. The WNBA is on par with a major

1380
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: championship clinching game, like, it's crazy how much you move

1381
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: the needle.

1382
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to go over on this as well

1383
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: along with VJ. Because it works for the league. They

1384
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: want to see Kaitlin Clark involved in these kind of shenanigans.

1385
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: Because it moves the needle. It continues the momentum from

1386
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 2: a year ago. So I'm going to go over on that.

1387
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 6: Christ all right, let's move to baseball for a second.

1388
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 6: I do have a spicy Game seven prop coming up

1389
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 6: with let's move to baseball for a second. Cal Raley

1390
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 6: is on an unbelievable clip right now, talk about it.

1391
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 6: I believe he's on pace right now for sixty five

1392
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 6: home runs. That's incredible. He's very streaky. Now here comes

1393
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 6: the problem. Between now and next show. I believe there

1394
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 6: are seven games the Mariners would play on road games,

1395
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 6: no breaks between four games stand with the Twins and

1396
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 6: then three with Vjy's Texas Rangers. Cal rally over under

1397
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 6: three and a half home runs this swim show, which show, Oh.

1398
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: That's a good number. Good number.

1399
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:37,839
Speaker 1: That is a lot.

1400
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 2: That is a lot of home runs. Here, here's understanding

1401
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: that it's about this. It's understanding that streaky.

1402
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 6: I believe that if he's going to hit this over,

1403
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 6: it's going to because he is streaky.

1404
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: Right now, he's already broken Johnny Benches record for a

1405
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: catcher for most home runs before the All Star break

1406
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 2: with twenty two games still to go before the All

1407
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: Star break. I don't know, man, he is just absolutely

1408
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: a fuck special player.

1409
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: Don't know if he's a special plays having a special year.

1410
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: He is, and he's by the way, he's been a

1411
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: thirty home run hitter. It's not like he came out

1412
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: of nowhere here all right, I'm gonna jump on this

1413
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 2: one first. I'm gonna roll the dice on this kid.

1414
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 2: So does that include today?

1415
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: Uh?

1416
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: Not the one that they just had today.

1417
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 6: Okay, So you're talking about the way the Twins and

1418
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 6: Rangers series three and a half is a big number, but.

1419
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: A lot in a week it is.

1420
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 2: I would go shopping with this.

1421
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 6: I was shopping this with Monsey and I think we

1422
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 6: agreed this was kind of in a higher I.

1423
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: Am going to since you made it clear, Yeah, that's

1424
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 2: the smart plays the under. But I'm gonna roll the.

1425
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 6: Dice on this one. Okay, I'm gonna go over. You're

1426
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 6: gonna go over mej is also over?

1427
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 2: Is he really?

1428
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 3: Wow?

1429
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 2: You see I backfired on that one, but I thought

1430
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 2: for sure he'd be under. But okay, all right, so yeah,

1431
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: I'll roll the dice on the over. Okay. Now we

1432
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,879
Speaker 2: have Game seven tonight, very important.

1433
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 6: Yes, a lot of people, and let me tell you

1434
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 6: something is someone in production. You don't want anything to

1435
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 6: go wrong. But all I can think about is hearkening

1436
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 6: back to Game one of this series where a Fort

1437
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 6: Wayne ABC affiliate cut away early from the end of

1438
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 6: the game to the nightly news and they and in

1439
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 6: that time, that span of time, the Pacers came back

1440
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 6: within one point of the Oklahoma City thunder. So with

1441
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 6: that in mind, local affiliates who cut away early from

1442
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 6: the end of Game seven over under.

1443
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: A half, I would have to say on ner, I hope, yeah,

1444
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: I would hope.

1445
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 6: So, but let me tell you local operations, something goes wrong,

1446
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 6: it does, and trust me, I will hear about this

1447
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 6: because I have my finger on the pulse of like

1448
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 6: awful announcing. Tim Burk's Blue Sky feed if it happens,

1449
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 6: I will know about it as.

1450
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: Someone that has been doing television all these years. It

1451
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 2: just happened to me the other night where we were

1452
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 2: running a an abbreviated highlight package of the Angels. But

1453
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: as I was about to read the eleven o'clock from

1454
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 2: the ten o'clock, I guess somebody put in the wrong tape. Yeah,

1455
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: there were all and all of a sudden, I'm staring

1456
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: at an extended highlight package that we had no script for.

1457
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: I had lived it, and it wiped out the rest

1458
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 2: of them. There were various.

1459
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 6: Fox affiliates who did not go back to the I'm sorry,

1460
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 6: I've got to go under.

1461
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 2: You're not going to cut away from a game seven?

1462
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: Come on?

1463
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: What would do with you here? It's one thing for

1464
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: you to go on, another thing to say what the

1465
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: odds are that it goes under?

1466
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1467
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, I need to work on this because you

1468
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: and DJ have the scene. Okay, well let's say okay, well,

1469
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: let's Jared set the wine. Then give us odds. If

1470
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to make it, I want to walk in

1471
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 2: and site I'm going to make a.

1472
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: Chat.

1473
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: Would you take that bad? If I watched it? Audi

1474
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 2: I want to get I want to put ten g

1475
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: down on one affiliate breaking away from Gates seven for

1476
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: so kinda local programming.

1477
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 6: We are talking about Oklahoma and Indiana, Phil Indiana affiliates.

1478
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 2: I understand that. All right, good stuff, Thank you, Chris,

1479
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: thank you. Another edition of the per Fet Picks coming up.

1480
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: On the other side, We're going to get right back

1481
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: to this Game seven. Oh and I'll also give our thoughts,

1482
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: my thoughts and Jared's thoughts on what is next for

1483
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers now that Aaron Rodgers is in charge.

1484
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin, Jared Smith here,

1485
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. We're in the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1486
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: How much more later on on the Big Trade today.

1487
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant is now with the Houston Rockets, and yes,

1488
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 2: the Rockets are now listed as the number two favorite

1489
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: to win the NBA Championship next year with the addition

1490
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: of Kevin Durant. Will have much more on that coming up.

1491
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: Also more on tonight's Game seven between the Thunder and

1492
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 2: the Pacers. But we talked a little NFL football before

1493
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 2: the Perfet Picks, and we're talking specifically about the AFC

1494
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: North the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now I'm trying to figure this

1495
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: one out, Jared, and you can make a lot more

1496
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 2: sense of this than I because you followed the Wines

1497
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 2: a lot more than I do. So let me get

1498
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: this straight. If you look at the last four years

1499
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 2: for the Steelers, this would include Roethlisberger's last year where

1500
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 2: he could barely throw the ball fifteen yards down the field.

1501
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean, he was completely done. And then we had

1502
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 2: a couple of years with Kenny Pickett that failed, and

1503
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 2: then last year he had this mishmash with Russell Wilson

1504
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: and Justin Fields, and despite all this instability and poor

1505
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 2: play out of the quarterback position, they rattled up four

1506
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:56,440
Speaker 2: straight winning seasons. So now you bring in Aaron Rodgers,

1507
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 2: who obviously is not the Aaron Rodgers he was, but

1508
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: he he did start seventeen games for the Jets last year,

1509
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: and you can't tell me that he is as talented,

1510
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: if not more talented, than what you had at the

1511
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: quarterback position over these last four years. And yet everyone

1512
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:18,839
Speaker 2: seems to be piling on the under that Mike Tomlin

1513
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: is going to for the first time in his Hall

1514
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 2: of Fame coaching career be saddled with a losing record. Now,

1515
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to figure this out. Where is the

1516
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 2: logic because I'm not the biggest Aaron Rodgers fan, But again,

1517
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: look at his numbers with the Jets. That is the

1518
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: one of the worst run organizations in the NFL. The

1519
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: Steelers are one of the best run organizations in the

1520
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: NFL in terms of stability, no question about that. So

1521
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: how or why should I believe that the Steelers are

1522
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 2: going to be worse with Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback.

1523
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: They won't be worse right where they are, right where

1524
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: they were last year, which is, you know, a team

1525
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 1: that has a chance to make the playoffs, hovering around

1526
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: five hundred probably gonna win nine games. I think we

1527
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 1: actually should make September eighth, nine to eight Mike Tomlin

1528
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: Appreciation Day.

1529
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just like that. I love that. Yeah, we

1530
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 2: just do just take that ten games the last two years.

1531
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I don't know if I'm ready to go

1532
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,560
Speaker 1: October seventh yet, I'll go I'll go September eighth. I

1533
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: don't know, I'll go nine, and I don't go ten

1534
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: to seven yet. Obviously, he's a step up over over

1535
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. He's obviously a step up up at Justin Fields.

1536
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: He's obviously a step up over Kenny Pickett. Those are

1537
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 1: not and frankly, I actually think, you know, with their

1538
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: offense constructed as is, I do think they have a

1539
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: chance to be better this year than in prior year.

1540
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: Something you get Dk Metcalfo, I think is an absolute

1541
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: rock star, and you bring in Rogers, and I think

1542
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: both of those guys are gonna, you know, increase the

1543
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: output for Pittsburgh's offense this year. The question is, you

1544
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 1: do have some questions, You do have some concerns on defense, right,

1545
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: wats contract? I think they'll work that out. I think

1546
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 1: they did a good job in the draft, I really

1547
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: and I thought the draft was the indicator that they

1548
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,839
Speaker 1: were going to bring in Rogers when they went defense

1549
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: in the first round. They went I think defense with

1550
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,560
Speaker 1: their first three picks, and then they brought in a

1551
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: running back Caleb Johnson, who had a really good career

1552
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: at college at Iowa. So they have all these pieces, right,

1553
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 1: it's just how do they all fit together? And the

1554
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 1: only issue I have with Rogers is when the adversity strikes,

1555
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: when the going gets tough, is he going to be

1556
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: a leader or is he just another guy on the team.

1557
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 2: But you can't believe that the kind of problems you

1558
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 2: run with the Jets, repeat offenders year after year after

1559
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: year after year, bad decisions, bad karmap whatever you want

1560
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: to call what the Jets are, that is not the

1561
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 2: story with the Steelers.

1562
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: Agreed, But here's the difference, and this is the only difference.

1563
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's a good thing or

1564
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,759
Speaker 1: a bad thing. We just have to let the vibe

1565
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: play out. Aaron was in control of the Jets. He

1566
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: wanted to bring in Lazarredy, wanted to bring these guys.

1567
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: They said, okay. They bent over backwards for him, and

1568
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: I think that gave Aaron a sense of comfort, a

1569
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: sense of security. Pittsburgh's not that this is a this

1570
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: is Mike Tomlins team. The culture is much more established.

1571
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: If Aaron gets told no, kind of similar to the

1572
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: shed door Sanders problem, right, a little entitlement there. If

1573
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 1: Aaron gets told no, if things start to go south

1574
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: and he's not getting his way, or the offense isn't

1575
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: going in the direction he wants to go, and he

1576
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: wants to make changes, and they're like no, we're gonna

1577
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: do it this way. Then what happens right like that?

1578
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: Because when that happened in New York and Aaron's like,

1579
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: I want to do this, I want to do that,

1580
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: Aaron got his way, and even it even took Woody

1581
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: john Woody Johnson almost was the one that pulled the

1582
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 1: trigger on Aaron Rodgers early on in the process and said,

1583
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 1: we want to get rid of this guy. I just

1584
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm curious how the locker room vibe is if and

1585
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,839
Speaker 1: when the adversity strikes.

1586
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:01,520
Speaker 2: All right, I have to believe because there were options

1587
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,480
Speaker 2: for Aaron Rodgers in terms of the Steelers or retirement.

1588
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't need to add anything to his resume.

1589
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: The only reason to extend your career at this point

1590
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 2: for if you'r Aaron Rodgers, is to pursue a being

1591
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 2: on a playoff team and then you know, see how

1592
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:23,440
Speaker 2: it works out. I have to believe that the Steelers

1593
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: were one hundred percent upfront with Aaron Rodgers, because he

1594
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 2: would have demanded it. I'm not bringing in my choices

1595
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, although Smith that thing has got a pretty

1596
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 2: pretty good proven record there. So I got to believe

1597
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 2: all this was going over and you're not going to

1598
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 2: challenge Mike Tomlin. Not no, you're not going to challenge

1599
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin. He's going to be in the Hall of Fame.

1600
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 2: He's had an amazing run as the coach of the Steelers,

1601
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 2: and this is the way we run an organization. He

1602
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 2: has to know that going in and so I think

1603
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 2: this is going And again I am not an Aaron

1604
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 2: Rodgers proponent. I would much rather have h retire then

1605
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 2: continue on this charade. But that being said, if he

1606
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 2: can stay healthy, I would take the over definitely on

1607
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 2: the Steelers coming up. All right, we're gonna get much

1608
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: more now into Game seven of the NBA Finals. This

1609
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:21,440
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday, four hours away Game seven NBA Finals,

1610
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers. Can they pull the upset taking on

1611
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder. This is Fox Sports Sunday, and

1612
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 2: once again we're in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Mark Mendina,

1613
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: or NBA Insider, is going to be joined us a

1614
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 2: little bit later on in this hour get his thoughts

1615
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 2: as we get ready for this Game seven. So let

1616
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 2: me ask you this, Jared, how much interest has there

1617
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,799
Speaker 2: been in these NBA Finals.

1618
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: I think the ratings are down, yes, but I think

1619
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: the ratings in general can be a little bit skewed

1620
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: because of streaming and because of how many people view

1621
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: the game in different ways today and the gambling element

1622
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, there's always interest, even when the

1623
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: game's a blowout, people are interested.

1624
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 2: Right well. I mean, you know, it's so funny we

1625
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 2: were I was talking about this yesterday about the WNBA.

1626
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: We never talked about the I mean, come on until now.

1627
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 2: Well until last year, and now I'm here in our

1628
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 2: morning shows here on Fox Sports Radio, and that's all

1629
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 2: they talk about is the WNBA.

1630
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm really into it, Honestly, I've gotten into it from

1631
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: a gambling person.

1632
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. From a gambling aspect. The

1633
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 2: hot ticket seems to be the WNBA.

1634
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1635
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: Well.

1636
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: Here, here's what makes gamblers excited. When the market is liquid.

1637
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: What does that mean? It means less money can move it, right,

1638
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: the NBA, more eyeballs, more people know what's going on.

1639
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: There are more experts, more insiders, and there's more money

1640
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 1: invested in it, so it's harder to get value in

1641
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 1: one direction. Like if you bet something at one and

1642
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: it closes three, you feel pretty good about your wager.

1643
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: That happens less in the NBA. In the WNBA, goodness, gracious,

1644
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: I've seen totals move ten fifteen points if something's really

1645
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: crazy and the player movement is not as advertised what

1646
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 1: I say, what I mean by player movement, Like Asia Wilson,

1647
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: for example, the best player on the aces, she's going

1648
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: to move the line two or three points in one

1649
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: direction if she plays or not. She's been dealing with

1650
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: a concussion in the last few days. It gets the

1651
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: announced that she was going to play in the NBA

1652
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL. When that happens, when that news hits

1653
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 1: the screen, the numbers move immediately within seconds. In the WNBA,

1654
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: you might have two or three minutes. You might be

1655
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 1: able to see the alert on your phone, log into

1656
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: your app, make a bet, and the number hasn't moved yet.

1657
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: So that's why the WNBA, I think, is becoming a

1658
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,839
Speaker 1: more appealing product for a lot of the gamblers.

1659
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: All right, so I want to get some of you

1660
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:04,799
Speaker 2: were talking earlier about the over under on the first quarter,

1661
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 2: which I'm looking at three and a half right now.

1662
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: So it's at that three and a half number, and

1663
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 2: as I said, Jeff Schwartz, said, taking I'm taking the

1664
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: thunder to cover. You know, they're yeah, they're gonna cover

1665
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 2: those three and a half points. But I want to

1666
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 2: hear from you, Jared. I mean, as you've been analyzing

1667
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 2: this game seven, obviously, been analyzing this entire series. What

1668
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 2: do you see, what do you expect, and how this

1669
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: game's gonna unfold, and what are some of the better

1670
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 2: plays that you see on the board.

1671
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: Well at six and a half, So the number got

1672
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: to us low as six and a half at our

1673
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: friends bet MGM, of course, is our sponsor for the

1674
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: show over the weekends. I was looking, Yeah, it's still

1675
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: six and a half. Now there's some juice to it.

1676
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,839
Speaker 1: But they're the only shop I see at six.

1677
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 2: And a half.

1678
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: The rest of the markets at seven. So it looks

1679
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: like we're going to close right around seven, and that

1680
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: would be the lowest, the shortest spread of Oklahoma City's

1681
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: home games in the postseason. They were a seven point

1682
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: favorite in Game one of the Western Conference Finals against Minnesota.

1683
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: In Game seven against Denver, which I would say was

1684
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: the most high leverage game they played so far, right,

1685
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: you're facing a team that won a title. Nicoleay okicch

1686
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: you're at home, but you're still you know, in hot water.

1687
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: If you lose, you're done. They were an eight and

1688
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: a half point favored in that game, So that kind

1689
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: of surprises me because I would put Denver in front

1690
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: of Indiana in terms of the rating. So what's that

1691
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: telling me? Well, there's a lot of support in the

1692
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: market for the Pacers, and I think that makes sense.

1693
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: The Pacers looked really good, and I don't want to

1694
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: knock OKAC for Game six. I think I'm gonna give

1695
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 1: credit to Indiana. I think that's where I'm at after

1696
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 1: the game.

1697
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 2: I'll stop you for a second. Go ahead, okay, all right?

1698
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, I could not watch much the game was

1699
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: once it got out of control, I had checked out

1700
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 2: of that game. But I mean, this is what's so frustrating.

1701
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure for a lot of people that are really

1702
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 2: getting their first serious look at OKAC, how they can

1703
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: just seems so nonchalant. I mean, I I can't remember

1704
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 2: a team that's had more arrant inbound passes than Oklahoma

1705
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 2: City and this I mean, they're just lazy passes, lazy passes.

1706
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 1: They are very resilient though.

1707
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 2: Well that's that's that's the argument and that's that's why

1708
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 2: if you're you're playing on OKAC to come back in

1709
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 2: a big way in game seven year, say, well, they've

1710
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: shown this all season along. Yeah, and you can go

1711
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 2: back to the game four sixty. You know, my favorite

1712
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 2: stat in that game four comeback for Oka see and

1713
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: that must game in Indiana was shake Gilgess Alexander and

1714
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 2: that game had zero assist zero and and and then

1715
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 2: the reason being he's like, you go, look, we have

1716
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: to win this game. Okay, I don't trust any of you.

1717
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna take over. And he scores fifteen points

1718
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: in the last five minutes. So uh, all right, well

1719
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: that's that's yeah, Wow, okay, go ahead.

1720
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: Six and oh after I loss this postseason four and

1721
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: two against the number. In those six games, Shi Gilgess

1722
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: Alexander averaging thirty four points per game. He's had at

1723
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: least thirty four in five of the six. He had

1724
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: one outlier twenty five points in game four against Denver,

1725
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 1: but they only scored ninety two in that game, so

1726
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: he still had almost thirty percent of the team's points. Sure,

1727
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: they're just so darn resilient, and I think that's why

1728
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 1: I like Okay seeing the game, so I bet okay

1729
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: See minus six and a half. This morning. I gave

1730
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 1: out a parlay on the show yesterday, Okay See to

1731
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: win PARLAYD with SGA to score thirty. That's minus one

1732
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: thirty odds over at bet MGM. I think that's a

1733
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 1: fantastic wager as well. I think I'm under on Halliburton

1734
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: points tonight. I think I'm under on Obi Toppins points,

1735
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: and I'm under on a lot of points tonight. I

1736
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a relatively lower scoring game.

1737
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 1: The totals dropped eight points from where we were in

1738
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 1: Game six. Total in Game six was two twenty three.

1739
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: We're two fifteen now. So the market thinks Indiana is

1740
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: going to keep it tight. The market thinks it's going

1741
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: to be a tight game. But when Oklahoma City wins,

1742
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: they win with margin. And we've seen two elimination games

1743
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: in this postseason where Okay Season won by thirty plus

1744
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: Game seven against Denver and in the final game against Minnesota.

1745
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 1: The eliminating games in the playoffs have had an average

1746
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: margin or victory of twenty points. So what that tells

1747
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: me is when those elimination games are kind of if

1748
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: it is a one sided game. It's ay vary one

1749
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: sided game. Like you kind of see that snowball effect

1750
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: where one team can kind of see the light at

1751
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel and the other team's like, yeah,

1752
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: we're not gonna win this game, and then it just

1753
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: goes in a very volatile direction. And that's kind of

1754
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: my vibe in this game. I think if Indiana wins,

1755
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: it's close. If Oklahoma City wins, it's a wide margin.

1756
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 2: I am a That's what I've been saying throughout this series.

1757
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 2: I mean, and there's a reason, Like when you go

1758
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: into the postseason with a team that is well, as

1759
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 2: it turns out, the second youngest team ever get to

1760
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, and they just didn't have a lot

1761
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 2: of close games. I mean, they won sixty eight games

1762
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: with an average margin victory twelve thirteen points a game

1763
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 2: for an entire season. That's that's insane, insane to have

1764
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 2: that kind of over eighty two games. And so when

1765
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 2: pressed in a close game situation, what happened to him

1766
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 2: Game one against Denver, what happened in game one of

1767
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:19,839
Speaker 2: this series against Indiana, I guess was almost predictable. Okay,

1768
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 2: So if you're if you're I find it interesting though.

1769
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 2: You're talking about the under on Halliburton and also the

1770
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: under on top and right, and I'm thinking, okay, well,

1771
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 2: where are their points coming from them?

1772
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Siakam the Thundertaker, I don't know if you saw

1773
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: that on his social media other day. I think he right, like,

1774
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 1: and there's two guys on this team, or two guys

1775
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 1: in this game that have I think big game finals experience, right,

1776
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: Siakam's one of them. The other one is Alex Cruz

1777
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: ironically on the other side. Sure, I think those are

1778
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: kind of my two picks to click. I think Caruso

1779
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 1: his defense and his presence off the bench. I think

1780
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,600
Speaker 1: lou dort is another guy that I would put in

1781
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: the cat glory of needs to be on his a game.

1782
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: And then on the other side for Indiana, I think

1783
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: Siakam and McConnell, I think those are an outside right,

1784
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: outside of the obvious answers right, which is Halliburton and

1785
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: SGA and Jalen Williams. Like, outside of those three guys,

1786
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: I think the players that I expect to have impact

1787
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: performances tonight, Caruso off the bench, McConnell off the bench,

1788
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: and then Dort with his defense and Siakam with his scoring.

1789
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 2: Caruso all experience. Caruso's all over the map. I mean,

1790
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 2: twenty points one night. Zero. I mean, you know, it's like,

1791
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 2: but I never looked at Alex Caruso as an offensive guy,

1792
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 2: all right. I never thought, well, Okay, you know this

1793
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 2: is a guy that's going to get to ten, twelve

1794
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 2: to fifteen points off the bench every night. I'm like, no,

1795
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 2: that's that's not Alex Cruso. I mean, he'll have a

1796
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 2: breakout night like he had the twenty point night. I

1797
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 2: think that's been a surprise to a lot of people

1798
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 2: because we said, all right, one of the reasons that

1799
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 2: OKC is such a prohibit favorite, they just have a

1800
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 2: deeper team. They just have more good players in Indiana,

1801
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 2: And yet the Pacers bench has outscored their bench in

1802
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 2: every game? Is it just about every game?

1803
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 1: Well? How about some of these stats here, here's some

1804
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 1: really interesting stats in the series, and I guess they're

1805
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 1: not that interesting, but I think it kind of tells

1806
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 1: the story. Turnovers and rebounding. Those have been the two

1807
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: biggest indicators of who is winning the game. Live ball turnovers,

1808
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: the team who wins that categories five and one. The

1809
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: team that wins rebounding is five and one. So it

1810
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: comes and I know it's who scores more points usually wins.

1811
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: And that's a very basic answer, and I understand that

1812
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 1: that's true. But in this particular series, I would not

1813
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 1: call either of these teams gifted offensive teams. I think

1814
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 1: both of them play offense in unique ways. Indiana fuels

1815
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: their offense through their motion and Oklahoma City fuels their

1816
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 1: offense from their defense and their turnovers and how many

1817
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 1: live ball turns over as they can force.

1818
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 2: What is the overrunner and home rebounds tonight, it's.

1819
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 1: Ten, ten and a half, it's going over. I agree.

1820
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: I think a good bet tonight too is an OKAC

1821
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:14,639
Speaker 1: money line with a home grim ten rebounds OKAC money

1822
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 1: line with the Jalen Williams twenty point five assist kind

1823
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: of game. Like, I think I want to take Oklahoma

1824
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: City on the money line and pair it with all

1825
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: of these different avenues of the players I think are

1826
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 1: going to have their performances.

1827
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 2: All right, Jared's gonna have more on what's trending right

1828
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 2: now updat you all the way through the end of

1829
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 2: this program. Also On the other side, we're gonna check

1830
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 2: in with our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider Mark Medina.

1831
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 2: He'll give us his thoughts on this Game seven. This

1832
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, Jared Smith, Fox Sports Sunday.

1833
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 2: We're in the Fox Sports Radio studios Game seven. Two

1834
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 2: best words in sports tonight it's the NBA Finals. Oh,

1835
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Chris, just reminding me. The best word in

1836
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 2: sports is football. Actually, depending on who you ask around here,

1837
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 2: might be super Bowl.

1838
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Brian, No, push the two best, And I'll

1839
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: be honest. The more I think about it, it's hard

1840
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: not to It's hard not to be honest.

1841
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 6: I enjoy a lot of the NFL playoffs a lot

1842
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 6: like I think Championship weekend is sometimes better, like more

1843
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 6: feisty than the Super Bowl.

1844
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 2: Well, I agree, because then we've talked about this many times.

1845
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 2: There's no more painful loss, you know, whether it's the

1846
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 2: Elite eight in you know, because you don't get to

1847
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 2: the final door, the conference, the championship because you're already

1848
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 2: invested and you won games to get there and now

1849
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 2: you're one step away, League championship series, whatever it is,

1850
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 2: conference finals. As a lot in the most painful loss

1851
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 2: is going to haunt me for years to come. Well

1852
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 2: that is that is no question, that's the most painful loss.

1853
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,799
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out from a man that follows

1854
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 2: it like no other. He is our Fox Sports Radio

1855
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 2: NBA insider, the Great Mark Medina is Johnny Us. Right now,

1856
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: Mark or Grab we could catch up with you, but

1857
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 2: before we even get to tonight's game, obviously, we have

1858
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 2: to ask you about the big trade today. Give us

1859
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 2: your thoughts on you know we talked about Phoenix really

1860
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of choices here and exactly how

1861
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 2: will the Kevin Durant dynamic work for the Houston Rockets.

1862
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 2: Your thoughts?

1863
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the Houston Rockets are now the prime

1864
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 7: team to challenge Oklahoma City in the Western Conference finals

1865
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 7: and I are in the Western Conference next season, and

1866
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 7: the Phoenix Suns got fleeced. I mean, we knew ahead

1867
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 7: of time that Kevin Durant's trade value was going to

1868
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 7: be complicated because even though he's still playing at all

1869
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 7: NBA level, he's on the final year of this contract,

1870
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 7: he's thirty seven, he has injury history. But when you

1871
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 7: look at what the Sun's gone return for this deal. Really,

1872
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 7: the only good thing is the number ten picks. Dylan Brooks,

1873
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 7: great defender, and he's grown as a shooter, but he's

1874
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 7: only good at a championship contending team. He's not good

1875
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 7: on a potential rebuild. Number two Dylan Green or Jalen Green.

1876
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 7: Great score, but very fundamentally disqualified here because he's only

1877
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 7: a score. He's tried to become more productive, but there's

1878
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 7: a reason why he flamed down the playoffs. So they

1879
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 7: had to trade Kevin Durant because it wasn't sustainable from

1880
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 7: a cap standpoint. But they didn't get really any long

1881
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 7: term assets that can make them be a viable contender

1882
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 7: with Devin Booker moving forward. So I'm surprised they didn't

1883
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 7: get more draft picks. Surprised they didn't get to Bori

1884
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 7: Smith Junior. But the Rockets took advantage of it.

1885
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 1: Mark for tonight. Obviously the vibe is Oklahoma City, but

1886
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 1: the numbers kind of moving in Indiana's direction. Would you

1887
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: be floored shocked if the Pacers pulled this upset off,

1888
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: because down three to two in the series, I would

1889
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: say it was a pretty big shock. But now in

1890
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: Game seven, anything can happen, right, yeah.

1891
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I've learned basically during Indiana's run here in

1892
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 7: the playoffs not to be shocked surprised by anything, because

1893
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 7: they see the expectations. The moment you think they're done,

1894
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 7: they you know, they don't have enough injury certainty with

1895
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 7: Tyres Talburn, don't have enough depth to match the Thunder.

1896
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 7: They prove us wrong. Now that being said, if I

1897
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 7: had to make a prediction, I think the Thunder are

1898
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 7: going to win Game seven because on paper they are

1899
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 7: the better team. They have a good bounce back record

1900
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 7: eighteen in two this season. Twelve of those wins are

1901
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 7: by double digits. They want to pivotal Game seven against

1902
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 7: the Denver Nuggets. When Jalen Williams doesn't shoot the ball well,

1903
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 7: pattern has shown that he has a really great breakout

1904
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 7: game the next game. But I think to the earlier point,

1905
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 7: we shouldn't be shocked if Indiana's favorite, should be just

1906
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 7: shocked if they pull an upset. And as much as

1907
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 7: I would think that the game plays out this way

1908
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 7: competitive in the first half, the Thunder breakaway in the second,

1909
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 7: they have to be very well prepared that Indiana is

1910
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 7: going to fight to the very very finish and barring

1911
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 7: an injury to Tyres or anyone else, I want to

1912
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 7: be surprised. This goes down to the wire.

1913
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:02,520
Speaker 2: Mark. Again, we talked about the fact that the Oklahoma

1914
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 2: City Thunder this year had one of the ten best

1915
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 2: regular seasons in NBA history. They finished sixteen games clear

1916
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,799
Speaker 2: of the two seed Houston in the much tougher Western Conference.

1917
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 2: They won by an average of twelve point nine points

1918
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 2: per game over an eighty two game schedule. These are

1919
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 2: legendary dominant numbers. And yet I've been watching this Thunder

1920
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: team throughout the playoffs and especially in these NBA Finals,

1921
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 2: and I've never seen a team of this caliber checkout

1922
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 2: of games the way this team has, where they go

1923
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 2: brain dead, where all of a sudden they are incapable

1924
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 2: of even throwing an inbound pass, lifty passes, where they

1925
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 2: just they just seem to be slumbering. This is why

1926
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 2: it puts so much focus on their coach, Mark. I

1927
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 2: don't understand this. If a team is this good to

1928
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,839
Speaker 2: do what they did over an eighty two game regular season,

1929
01:36:55,400 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 2: explain to me why we have not seen that team

1930
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 2: in these NBA finals.

1931
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 7: Dave, You're exactly on the money. I think what it

1932
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 7: has to do with is that playoff basketball is different,

1933
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 7: and it's not just because of the physicality or anything else.

1934
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 7: If anything, that's an advantage for the Thunder because they

1935
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 7: have so many wing players that are physical, including Lee

1936
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 7: Dort that got away with some shove offs against Tyres

1937
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 7: Alburton in Game of five. I believe so. I think

1938
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 7: the bigger thing is that on paper they have a

1939
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 7: skill set, but they don't duplicate that on a consistent basis.

1940
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 7: They also don't make the kind of adjustments you made.

1941
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 7: Here's some example, Shake Gogess Alexander Well deserving of MVP

1942
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 7: best scorer in the league. He's been an improved playmaker,

1943
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 7: but a lot of times he'll rely too much on

1944
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 7: the ISO heavy ball and then if it becomes predictable.

1945
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 7: Jalwen Williams, he's a great off the ball score. He

1946
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 7: knows how to be ready for catch and shoot. He

1947
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 7: knows how to cut into the paint so that he

1948
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 7: can stretch the floor. Great defender, but his shooting's very

1949
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 7: inconsistent game game out. And then their defense that's their

1950
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 7: biggest strength. But they're not consistent with converting turnovers into points.

1951
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 7: That's example Game one I think they forced twenty five turnovers,

1952
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 7: yet the Pacers still won that not just because Tyris

1953
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 7: Helbern hit a game winning shot, but the Thunder didn't

1954
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 7: really convert those turnovers into easy baskets. So I'm with

1955
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 7: you that they're a very jecky and hide type team

1956
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 7: and that I think contributes to the unpredictability of this series.

1957
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 7: But on paper, they should be the better one that

1958
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 7: can prevail in Game seven. But again we've talked at

1959
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 7: link here. Indiana has shown that they've overachieved and made

1960
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 7: the best of their roster, and you never know underestimate them.

1961
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 7: I'm just going on the fact that they do have

1962
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 7: a good bounce back record. They're in their home court

1963
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 7: on Game seven. I would think because of the obvious stakes,

1964
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 7: you want to see those kind of miscues that happened

1965
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 7: when they felt a little bit more comfortable in.

1966
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: The serious mark. Is it fair to say that the

1967
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Thunder have more pressure on them tonight? That feels obvious, right?

1968
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 7: I think so, because anything Indiana has done right now,

1969
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 7: it's almost playing with house money, and Oklahoma City does

1970
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 7: have home court advantage there to the favored seed. Now,

1971
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 7: if they lose in the finals, I would be surprised

1972
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 7: if all of a sudden they make wholesale changes. The

1973
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 7: reality is they still have a window to win a

1974
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 7: championship the next two years. Because they have a young core,

1975
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 7: there's continuity. None of the players are up for extensions.

1976
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 7: They don't have to make any tough financial decisions. But

1977
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:32,599
Speaker 7: as we've seen in today's NBA, the chance to repeat

1978
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 7: it as champion hasn't happened in twenty eighteen. It's never

1979
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 7: guaranteed that you'll could be back in the finals just

1980
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,639
Speaker 7: because you were the year before. So if they lose,

1981
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 7: it's not going to say, you know, they're shot at

1982
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 7: it is over, but it is I think too presumptuous

1983
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 7: to think, okay, well they could just get it back

1984
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 7: next year. Nothing's guaranteed in today's NBA.

1985
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 2: Mark, I got to ask you about the Lakers situation.

1986
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 2: So Mark Walter obviously is now going to be in

1987
01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 2: charge of the organization. I may maintain, you know Genie Bus,

1988
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 2: I know Genie Bus. I think she did what she

1989
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 2: thought was best for the future of the Lakers. I

1990
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 2: believe it Sincerera, I mean, they look at the Bus family,

1991
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 2: they get their money and everything else. She wanted to

1992
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:15,839
Speaker 2: make it work. She obviously lives and brees her father's legacy,

1993
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 2: and it wasn't happening, and they just did not have

1994
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 2: the financial means to be able to get the top

1995
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 2: level coaches, you know, top level personnel people, scouting department

1996
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 2: and everything else. People just don't realize that they are

1997
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 2: below the bar of these other teams in terms of

1998
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 2: employees and those very important departments. Obviously, the cap restricts

1999
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 2: how much you can do as far as personnel is concerned.

2000
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 2: But what do you think Mark Walter's first line of business.

2001
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you obviously have to get Luka Doncict signed

2002
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 2: to a deal. But how could this change with leadership

2003
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 2: and the Laker organization change the dynamic of the future

2004
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 2: of Lebron James with the Lakers.

2005
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think regardless of this sale happening or not,

2006
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:01,879
Speaker 7: I don't think anything was going to change with Lebron

2007
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 7: or Luca. I think Lebron he's going to end his

2008
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 7: career with the Lakers, whether it's one more year or

2009
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 7: two year, two more years. Luca Dodgers tweeted out a

2010
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 7: lot of excitement about new ownership and basically suggested he'll

2011
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 7: sign that extension in August because he's saying he wants

2012
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 7: to help the Lakers win multiple championships. He has one

2013
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 7: year on his contract. You connect the dots, but the

2014
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:22,799
Speaker 7: expectation is he wants to be a Laker long term regardless.

2015
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 7: I think the immediate changes that we're going to see

2016
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:28,839
Speaker 7: is the financial resources with behind the scenes type efforts,

2017
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:33,480
Speaker 7: more analytics staffing, you know, more team staff, more resources

2018
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 7: for training staff. To be clear, it's not like under

2019
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 7: the Bus family that they were nickel and diming those things.

2020
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 7: They put the resources into it. They weren't cutting corners,

2021
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 7: but they were always very economical and very pragmatic about it.

2022
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 7: And that's a you know, much different than how they

2023
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 7: viewed star players. It was always about betting whatever it

2024
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 7: takes to have that. So I think that's order business

2025
01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 7: number one or business number two. It's inevitable when you

2026
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 7: have new ownership, that means new front office. I don't

2027
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 7: think that's going to happen right away, only because Rob

2028
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 7: Polinka he signed an extension in April. He still has

2029
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 7: some good capital right now because of the fact that

2030
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 7: they got Luca Dotchen. The trade. Yeah, it may have

2031
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 7: felt on the Lakers lap with Nico Harrison, but he

2032
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 7: also have to negotiot and make the trade happen. But

2033
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 7: I think the telling part is what will the front

2034
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 7: office do this summer to really bolster the team's depths,

2035
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 7: which getting the center spot, getting a good supporting cast

2036
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 7: around Lebron and Luca. So I don't think if I'm

2037
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 7: Rob Polinka, I'm thinking my job's in jeopardy. But you know,

2038
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 7: you obviously have a job to do, and you have

2039
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 7: to keep that equity moving forward, especially when there's new

2040
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 7: ownership involved.

2041
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 1: Mark Who's gonna be the next coach next? I don't

2042
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 1: even know if they're going to have one before the

2043
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 1: end of the year at this rate, are you what

2044
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 1: team are you talking about? For the Knicks.

2045
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 2: Coach?

2046
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 7: You know, I've been told Mike Brown's the heavy favorite here.

2047
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 7: He's already interviewed. It went well. He interviewed a few

2048
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:08,639
Speaker 7: years ago. The Knicks were impressed with him. I think

2049
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 7: the reason why he has it's not just because he's

2050
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 7: has the most head coaching experience, but he was seen,

2051
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 7: especially during his time with Cleveland and the Lakers, that

2052
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 7: he's a defensive oriented coach and he has these long practices,

2053
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 7: long film sessions. Sometimes that's good, sometimes that's bad. But

2054
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:27,759
Speaker 7: he's even those things out. When he was at Golden State,

2055
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 7: it was very eye opening to him about the fact

2056
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 7: that you don't have to have all these intense practices

2057
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 7: that can grind players. Bill Paul same thing with film sessions.

2058
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 7: He's been more offensively innovative, especially when you see his

2059
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:42,680
Speaker 7: time in Sacramento. So even though the time in Sacramento

2060
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 7: came to an end, that had more to do with

2061
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 7: for an office ownership dysfunction than anything else. When you

2062
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 7: look at the numbers, their offense was top one of

2063
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 7: the top of the league. So when that happens, I've

2064
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 7: been told it's not going to happen right away, so

2065
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 7: I would expect sometime after the draft or even after

2066
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:04,600
Speaker 7: free agency. So technically Nicks are still looking at other candidates.

2067
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 7: But if I had a guess, I think Mike Brown

2068
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 7: will be the head coach.

2069
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 2: Well, if I were the Nicks, I would bring in

2070
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 2: Van Gundy, Jeff Aan Gunny, who's a proven commodity in

2071
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 2: New York and uh I think I mean it would

2072
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 2: be a popular pick. And again, not everyone is suited

2073
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 2: to deal with the New York market. If anyone can

2074
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 2: handle it, as Jeff aan Gunny has proven that. But

2075
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,520
Speaker 2: that's just me. I know, maybe it's yeah.

2076
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 7: You know what, the I'm with you. Van Gundy's great.

2077
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 7: He when he talks to people on the Clippers, they

2078
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 7: really paint him as the reason why they become a

2079
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 7: defensive elite team. Obviously helps you have good defenders. But

2080
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 7: he made a lot of good changes with being active

2081
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 7: with game prep, holding players accountable. I just don't know

2082
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 7: if Fan Gundy is really up for that, especially knowing

2083
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 7: how they treated his close friend Tom Thibodeau.

2084
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree with you, and then that would

2085
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:54,680
Speaker 2: be the problem. In other words, is he going to

2086
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 2: step over Tibbs in his protege uh to take that

2087
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 2: next job? But you know what, money talks Mark, great stuff.

2088
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 2: Can't wait to see what transpires tonight. We appreciate the

2089
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 2: time and Joy.

2090
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 7: Dave always appreciate you. And Jim Hill continues to say,

2091
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 7: keep telling what.

2092
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 2: You're doing, thank you very much. Yes, keep the faith

2093
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 2: right there, thank you. Mark, Mark Medina joining us right there,

2094
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 2: our NBA insider. All right, let's find out what is

2095
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 2: trending right now. Rolling along on a very busy Sunday Monsie,

2096
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:27,759
Speaker 2: it is busy.

2097
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,480
Speaker 5: I thought I was gonna come in and relax.

2098
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:31,839
Speaker 4: Wait for Game seven.

2099
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 5: Wake up to Kevin Durant news, Wake up to cal Raleigh,

2100
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 5: you know, giving Aaron Judge already a run for his

2101
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 5: MVP money. Show heyo, Tawny pitching again? All right, we'll

2102
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 5: start there, show heyo TWI.

2103
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2104
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 5: His second start behind well on the mound, not behind

2105
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 5: the mound, but on the mound. Only one inning, struck

2106
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 5: out two already four pitches reached.

2107
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 4: Ninety eight miles an hour.

2108
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 5: His first outing, he had two pitches over one hundred

2109
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 5: miles an hour and one of them.

2110
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 4: Was already the second fastest pitch for a Dodger this season.

2111
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 2: So is he out after one in age?

2112
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 4: Officially out?

2113
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 2: Seah. I told that my son Garrett, as you know,

2114
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 2: Big Doddvan we are at the game on Thursday. Yes,

2115
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,799
Speaker 2: And he was like, oh no, no, no, he'll definitely

2116
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 2: go more than one. I go no, no, one inning period.

2117
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 5: One inning and so but not too shabby. And in

2118
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 5: the two outings that he has had, very small, small

2119
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:29,679
Speaker 5: sample size. But I like what I've seen so far

2120
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 5: from Otani. Right now, Dodgers in the Nationals are scoreless.

2121
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:35,919
Speaker 5: It is the bottom of the second inning. The Guardians

2122
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 5: are up on the ace to zero bottom of the

2123
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 5: second about to start. The Red Sox have scored first

2124
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 5: against the Giants, won zero bottom of the second as well.

2125
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 5: The Rockies have taken the lead from the Diamondbacks. That's

2126
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 5: four to two bottom of the fifth. The Mariners have

2127
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 5: added some more runs, so now they're topping the Cubs

2128
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 5: nine to sixth bottom of the seventh.

2129
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 4: And yes, cal Rawly with his thirty first home run

2130
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Speaker 4: of the season.

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01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 5: We have not even reached the All Star break three

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01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 5: years in a row for Calra with thirty or more

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01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 5: home runs, except this is the first time he's actually

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01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 5: done up before the All Star break. The Reds of

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01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 5: a four to one lead over the Cardinals bottom of

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01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:09,680
Speaker 5: the ninth inning about to start in Saint Louis, and

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01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 5: the Brewers have a nine to five lead over the

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01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 5: Twins bottom of the seventh, But the Twins do have

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01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 5: the bases loaded and they have two outs, so we'll

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01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:18,919
Speaker 5: see what they do there. The Yankees defeated the Orioles

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01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 5: four to two. The Tigers took down the Rays nine

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01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 5: to three. The Pirates with an eight to three win

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01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 5: over the Rangers at home. The White Sox defeated the

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01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:28,640
Speaker 5: Blue Jays four to two, and the Marlins had to

2145
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 5: come back win to defeat the Braves five to three

2146
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 5: at home. At Game two of the Men's College World

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01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 5: Series Final, LSU is on top of Coastal Carolina five

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01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:40,639
Speaker 5: to one. It is the top of the sixth inning.

2149
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 5: Tigers lead the series one zero and it's the best

2150
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 5: of three series, so if the Tigers win this.

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01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 4: One, it is over.

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01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 5: Coastal Carolina did lose their manager, Kevin Schal and their

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01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 5: first base coach Matt Schilling, though in the first inning

2154
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 5: they were ejected. We'll check in in golf at the

2155
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 5: Travelers Championship.

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01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 4: Tommy Fleetwood is still in the lead. He is fifteen

2157
01:47:58,120 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 4: hunder part overall.

2158
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 5: Jason Day with Keegan Bradley and Russel Henley are two

2159
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 5: shots back.

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01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 4: We've also got a w.

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01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 5: NBA game going on. Well, we got a couple, but

2162
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 5: the Fever and the Aces are playing. Fever have been

2163
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 5: up a lot of this game. Las Vegas is now

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01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 5: on top sixty three to sixty one with.

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01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 4: About eight minutes to go in this one.

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01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 5: Aleah Boston for Indiana, She's got twenty two points and

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01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 5: six rebounds. The Sky is beating the Dreams seventy three

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01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 5: to sixty nine. Also early in the fourth quarter of

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01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:25,879
Speaker 5: this one.

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01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 4: What a day. Oh, yes, Kevin Durant, he's headed to

2171
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 4: the Houston Rockets.

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01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 9: In case you miss In case you missed it, Yes, why?

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01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 5: And there's a Game seven, which is the two greatest

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01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:36,520
Speaker 5: words in the sports?

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01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 2: In June? Can we say in June? Okay, in June

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01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 2: we can say that June.

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01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm curious, MONTI, do you think the Super Bowl the

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01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,679
Speaker 1: two better is better than seven?

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01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:46,719
Speaker 4: Hard to argue?

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01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 1: It is hard. I agree, and I love arguing with

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01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:51,599
Speaker 1: Brian No, but it's hard to argue no, for.

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01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 5: Real, Like I do think Game seven just brings a

2183
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 5: really a lot of excitement right in general.

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01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, super Bowl, I hate it. I hate because

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01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 4: I wanted to be Game seven.

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01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 5: But I don't know if i'd win the argument, you

2187
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 5: know what I mean, I think it might be Super Bowl.

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01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, you know, back in the day as

2189
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 2: a college football fanatic that I am. Yeah, that's not

2190
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 2: two words, it's sort of three, which is one versus two.

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01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 2: You know, those are ware. There weren't a lot of

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01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 2: those back in the day.

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01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 1: I remember a nine to six game Alabama and LSU a.

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01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 2: While but absolutely that was ugly. But you know you

2195
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 2: would have those those rare matchups like that, you know,

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01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:40,240
Speaker 2: Game of the Century. Yeah, Game of the century. Those

2197
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 2: are all good, Montsi, thank you so much, pleasure.

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01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 4: Jared's ihead to Jack.

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Speaker 1: Pot Oh I will, He says, hello as well.

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01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 2: Hey, We're in the Fox Sports Radio studios, And don't

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01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 2: forget after the show. The podcast is going up. So

2202
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:54,839
Speaker 2: if you miss any of today's show, check out the podcast.

2203
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Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you gaged podcasts, and

2204
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01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 2: give it five stars. So again, just search Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio wherever he gets your podcast. You'll see today's show

2207
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:09,760
Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the air. So any

2208
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 2: interesting prop bets that you might want to throw up

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Speaker 2: for tonight's game.

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Speaker 1: So I think I'm gonna go under on Benedict Mathern's

2211
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 1: point prop tonight. I think he's going to be on

2212
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 1: a very short leash. He has not played well over

2213
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 1: the last couple of games. Let mean, look, I was

2214
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 1: looking at his numbers earlier and I think I like

2215
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 1: your look on the home groom ten plus rebounds. Yeah,

2216
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 1: Mathern three for seventeen from the field over the last

2217
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 1: two games, and he's logged fifty minutes in the last three.

2218
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 1: But I do think the leash will be very tight

2219
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 1: tonight because he had a really bad defensive rating in

2220
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,799
Speaker 1: game six. And I think I think Ben Shepherd's actually

2221
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 1: a guy that has kind of stolen some minutes from

2222
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 1: Matherin in this series. He's played really well, and he's

2223
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 1: also a really good corner three point shooter. He's actually

2224
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 1: their best corner three point shooter, and that's kind of

2225
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 1: been the pocket of space that's been open for the

2226
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 1: Pacers in this series. We've seen Obi top and take

2227
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 1: advantage of that considerably. I don't like betting overs for

2228
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 1: shooting on role players, right the three point shot is

2229
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 1: so volatile. It could go in, could go not. But

2230
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 1: with Shepard, you're getting plus money just to make one

2231
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 1: three pointer tonight, and I think that's a decent you know,

2232
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 1: coin flip kind of bet where you're getting you know,

2233
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 1: plus money on it, so that's a better than fifty

2234
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 1: percent chance, you know. I think that's a decent I

2235
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 1: think that's a decent look. But if you want to

2236
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 1: look at the stars tonight. I think my favorite prop

2237
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 1: bet tonight is that SGP that I gave out yesterday

2238
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 1: on the Saturday Morning Show for Oklahoma City to win

2239
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 1: the game, paired with SGA to score thirty. Like, I

2240
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 1: just don't see a lot of avenues where they win

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01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 1: the game and he doesn't score thirty. It just happens

2242
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 1: so often. And then the other ones Jalen Williams, Like,

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01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 1: if you really think, if, if, if Oklahoma City is

2244
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:55,680
Speaker 1: gonna show up tonight, Jalen Williams is gonna have to

2245
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 1: be a distributor and a score. And his assist numbers

2246
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 1: have kind of taken a dip over the last couple games.

2247
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:02,200
Speaker 1: He's been almost a lock to go over four and

2248
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:04,720
Speaker 1: a half assists in this postseason. He's gone under in

2249
01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 1: the last two. So I think SGA to get the

2250
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 1: thirty points and Williams to have five assists and Check

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01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:12,680
Speaker 1: to have ten rebounds in Oklahoma City to win. Like

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01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:15,600
Speaker 1: that's all kind of in the stew for tonight.

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01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 2: All right, and again Oklahoma City. Keep in mind, there

2254
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 2: have been nineteen NBA Finals Game sevens. The home team

2255
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 2: has won fifteen of those. I go so far back, Jared,

2256
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,759
Speaker 2: I remember the first road team to win a Game seven.

2257
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 2: That was Bill Russell's final game. I was in fifth

2258
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:35,639
Speaker 2: grade and the Celtics upset the Lakers at the Forum.

2259
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 2: As Will sat on the bench in the fourth quarter

2260
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 2: with an injury. As the Lakers came back to make

2261
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 2: it close, don Nelson as a player, threw up a

2262
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 2: shot with a Celtic one point lead. It hit the

2263
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 2: back of the rim, went straight up and right through

2264
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 2: the hoop, and that's when you knew the Celtics were

2265
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 2: a team of destiny. But again only like Caliburton in

2266
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:55,760
Speaker 2: Game one it was against the Knicks. It was the

2267
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 2: same type of shot. Actually, Halliburn's bounced even higher than

2268
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 2: the My favorite was watching people. You can YouTube it,

2269
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:05,759
Speaker 2: like you know, the ABC highlights of that Game seven.

2270
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 2: Don Nelson at the free throw line. His free throw

2271
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 2: shooting style was like a shot put, like he'd be

2272
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 2: on one leg with the ball in one hand and

2273
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 2: sort of shot put it toward the basket. I love

2274
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 2: that old stuff. I love it. And by the way,

2275
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 2: everyone always says, why was the NBA so slow in

2276
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 2: those days? And I go, that's because you had to

2277
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:27,759
Speaker 2: keep your hand on top of the basketball when you dribble.

2278
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 2: Every single every single player in the NBA would be

2279
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 2: called for carrying the ball over or palming the ball

2280
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 2: every time they dribbled the ball back in the old

2281
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 2: ball every time once in the whole playoffs. I mean again,

2282
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:47,560
Speaker 2: when I was a kid during that era, I'm telling you, Jerry,

2283
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 2: we had a practice keeping our hand on top of

2284
01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:55,960
Speaker 2: the basketball as we dribbled at all times. So that's

2285
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 2: why game looks slow in those days. Much different now,

2286
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:01,679
Speaker 2: all right, coming up on the other side, our final thoughts,

2287
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 2: our final picks, final scores. We're gonna tell you what's

2288
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 2: gonna happen before it happens. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

2289
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 2: Steve Harvin, Jared Smith here, Fox Sports Sunday and the

2290
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. Want to thank our crew today Monsey.

2291
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:19,719
Speaker 2: Of course, she's getting ready for her show with Carrie

2292
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 2: Rhoades coming up, so I want to thank Moncy for

2293
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 2: her efforts today. Chris on the board. By the way,

2294
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 2: so LSU right now, looking like Chris, they're gonna end

2295
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 2: up winning this College World Series, which I did not

2296
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 2: really interesting? So what do we have an update on

2297
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 2: the jello shots with LSU as of three hours ago.

2298
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 6: LSU's count at the Rocos Jello Shot Challenge. You know

2299
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 6: hamah is no, no, doesn't even need to be stated.

2300
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 2: They're in the lead.

2301
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 6: Forty five thousand, six and forty two. Still a long

2302
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 6: cry from under seven thousand. You took under seven thousands

2303
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 6: forty five thou in six hundred and forty Is that

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01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 6: a four or night either way? Still a long cry

2305
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 6: from what they did I believe two years ago, where

2306
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 6: I believe the total was sixty eight thousand, eight hundred.

2307
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 2: But there's gonna be a late there's gonna be a

2308
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 2: late run here.

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01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 6: Oh we're talking about people from Botton Rouge. They're gonna

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01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 6: come in and just start pounding the place. I bet

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01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 6: they go over on that one. And our brilliant producer, Shay,

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01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 6: he is a man that.

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01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:28,680
Speaker 2: I love. His demeanor something about yesha, I'm not quite

2314
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 2: sure what it is. You have your fun, but it's

2315
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 2: there's a serious demeanor like I have a job to do,

2316
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 2: I appreciate I get the business done well, that's exactly.

2317
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 2: And you know, you get everyone ever gonna have fun

2318
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 2: in life, you have to have fun of them exactly.

2319
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 2: But I know Jared's got a lot of fun in life, Jared.

2320
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm living in Vegas.

2321
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 2: I'm living the life I was gonna Jared. Actually I

2322
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 2: was so. I was in Phoenix last week where it

2323
01:55:56,120 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 2: hit one fourteen. I mean it was really that oven heat.

2324
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 2: Did you get close to that in Vegas last week?

2325
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2326
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 1: We got one ten? Yeah, I think there was a

2327
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 1: one ten out there.

2328
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. People don't understand if you're not exposed. When people

2329
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 2: say it's a dry heat, it's ovens. It's literally what

2330
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:15,080
Speaker 2: I call oven heat.

2331
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 1: A hundred and under. I'm fine. Yeah, once you start

2332
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 1: to get into that one oh five to one ten range,

2333
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 1: that's where it's oppressive just to be outside. But it's

2334
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 1: unfortunate my morning I have morning sun on the balcony

2335
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 1: afternoon shade, so the morning sun's not as not as intense.

2336
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you just don't. People will say, well, why

2337
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 2: are you surviving?

2338
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 1: You don't stand in it to them, Yeah, you just

2339
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 1: don't go outside.

2340
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 2: You don't guess. All right, So let's get some final

2341
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 2: thoughts on this game seven that night between the Pacers

2342
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 2: and the Thunder. And again, this is one of those

2343
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 2: games and I said this at the start, char that

2344
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 2: My biggest takeaway, regardless of what happens in tonight's game,

2345
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 2: is that I have been underwhelmed by the thunder Mark

2346
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 2: Dagnall again. I See. Here's the thing. We've had, this

2347
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 2: revolving door of champions right. I mean, we're looking at

2348
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:12,240
Speaker 2: our seventh different team to win the NBA Championship over

2349
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 2: the last seven years.

2350
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 1: Went back to back in the NHL two yeah.

2351
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 2: I mean gets back to back, seven different teams in

2352
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 2: seven years.

2353
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:23,040
Speaker 1: Crazy teams go back to back in hockey in the

2354
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 1: last six years exactly, you.

2355
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,879
Speaker 2: Had Tampa Bay and now you got, yeah, the Panthers.

2356
01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 2: So he got this, uh, this run of you know,

2357
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 2: and you know, if the Pacers win, it's just going

2358
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 2: to look you go back like, oh, did the Pacers

2359
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 2: actually win a championship. It's going to be one of those.

2360
01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 2: But for OKC, they have again. They would be the

2361
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 2: second youngest team ever to win the NBA Championship. And

2362
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 2: people forget that Portland team in seventy seven lit by

2363
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:53,280
Speaker 2: Bill Walton. The next year they started fifty to ten, wow,

2364
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 2: and then he got hurt and that was it. It

2365
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 2: was done. He never played another game for the pat

2366
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 2: Blazers and that was the end of their dynasty, just

2367
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 2: like that. But if you look at OKAC with the

2368
01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:04,840
Speaker 2: nucleus they have right now, what they accomplished in the

2369
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 2: regular season this year, and the fact that they have

2370
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 2: five number one picks over the next two years. Wow,

2371
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 2: I mean, we could see a team that could make

2372
01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:15,920
Speaker 2: a real run at least for the balance of this decade.

2373
01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:18,840
Speaker 2: But it's gonna have to start tonight. I just it's

2374
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 2: it would be a disaster, a disaster if they lost tonight,

2375
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 2: major disaster, I mean disaster.

2376
01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 1: The two in the series right, two games at home.

2377
01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:33,840
Speaker 2: By the way, the last time a team was down

2378
01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 2: three to two wins game six. They usually win Game seven.

2379
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 2: But that's usually at home, yep, not on the road.

2380
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 2: I gotta go, OKAYC in this game, the line is

2381
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:44,839
Speaker 2: at six and a half.

2382
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,880
Speaker 1: Yep, I'll give you six and a half. That's where

2383
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: it is. A BENMGM, that's what I bet.

2384
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 2: Six and a half to me is always a sucker

2385
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 2: line in football. It's always a draw in you know

2386
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 2: you know me, and you never bet you know you

2387
01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 2: bet the over instead of the other. I I got it.

2388
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with what you said earlier. Then

2389
01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 2: if the Pacers win, it's going to be a close win, yep.

2390
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 2: But if the Thunder win, it's going to be a

2391
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:11,839
Speaker 2: blowout or at least going away. I can't see anything

2392
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:15,480
Speaker 2: other than a double digit victory for the Thunder tonight.

2393
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 2: I agree.

2394
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 1: And Oklahoma City again six and zero off a loss

2395
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 1: this year in the playoffs, four and two against the spread.

2396
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:22,840
Speaker 1: They're nine and three against the spread at home in

2397
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 1: the postseason, and all five games so far in the

2398
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 1: playoffs where OKAC has been at home and the spread's

2399
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 1: been less than ten, they've covered all five games. So

2400
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:36,160
Speaker 1: if you're giving me a discount, you're telling me that

2401
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:38,880
Speaker 1: game seven of the finals is the shortest number we

2402
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 1: get to bet Oklahoma City in the entire postseason. I've

2403
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 1: got to take that. So I'm on Oklahoma City too.

2404
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 1: I think they win by ten plus.

2405
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:47,960
Speaker 2: All right, So remind everybody about your best plays for

2406
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 2: tonight's game.

2407
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:52,400
Speaker 1: Well, I really like Haliburton under points. I like a

2408
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:55,160
Speaker 1: lot of the under points in this one. Them hard

2409
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:56,960
Speaker 1: over two and a half turnovers. I'll put that on

2410
01:59:57,000 --> 02:00:00,000
Speaker 1: the card as well. And the SGA thirty plus points

2411
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,720
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma City to win. I think that's my favorite

2412
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:02,280
Speaker 1: play of the night.

2413
02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see this game tonight. I'll be watching.

2414
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:08,080
Speaker 2: You know. It's like I'm going over underwhelmed at times,

2415
02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:10,920
Speaker 2: but tonight is a Game seven, which is always special. Jared,

2416
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:14,320
Speaker 2: great stuff. We always appreciate your time. Much more coming

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Speaker 2: up here on Fox Sports Radio.