1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: We get one step closer to exactly where all of 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: you want to be. The next time we get together, 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: it's gonna be right around the corner to turn the 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: page to August. Training camps are gonna be open. Your 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: fantasy drafts are gonna be scheduled. Here we go. Mark 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: Willity from Salaam Broadcasting Live, ti rack dot com Studios, 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: ti raq dot com. We will help you get there 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: an unmatched selection, fast, free shipping, free road hazard protection 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: in over ten thousand recommended installers tyrack dot com. The 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: way tire buying should be. My man, e from Salam. 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: What's good tonight, My man? 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: What's happening? 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: How you doing? What we're doing? 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: I'm good man. 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 2: You know what. 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 4: I was watching some football yesterday and who's playing? It 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 4: was really good? 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: I mean I really enjoyed it. 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 4: I was watching the Boston Renegades against the Saint Louis 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 4: Slam and the championship in the WFA Pro Division Championship 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 4: in Canton, Ohio, Okay. That is the Women's Football Alliance. 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 5: The Women's Football Alliance. 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: Yes, it was good. 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 4: Tell it was just on one of the sports channels 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 4: and I was just prouised. I'm like, who's playing right now? 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 4: And then I'm like I was looking, and I was 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: like and so I started watching it. And then my 29 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 4: son was like, that are those women? And I was like, yes, 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: they are, son, and we sat down and they were 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: out there playing ball. 32 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: They were playing ball. 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: I was. I was thoroughly entertained. Women are taking over 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: sporting world this week. 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: Like I just didn't. I didn't know anything about it. 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 5: I've never heard of it. Like you're breaking news to 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: me right now. 38 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 39 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 4: Man, the Boston Renegades won there, I guess, fifth straight championship. 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: They finished the season at nine to oho, and I 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 4: just was. I was enthralled. I didn't know. I didn't 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: know shout out to the Where again did you find this? 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: This was on uh, one of the sports channels. 44 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: It was just there. I mean, I was one of 45 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: the sports channels. We don't work doing something we don't 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: work for. Well yeah, yeah, yeah, you're doing something that 47 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: very few people younger than us do now, which is 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: you were scrolling. I was scrolling through the TV. I said, yeah, yeah, 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: you were scrolling people. You don't people don't scroll anymore. Man, 50 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: They're just like on the streaming service, and they they 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: got a destination. People watch TV the way men shop like. 52 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm here to body shirt now I'm going 53 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: home like this whole peruse around. Let's see what we see. 54 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: That's that's you know, people don't do that anymore. 55 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: No, they don't. But this was this was pretty good, man. 56 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 4: It's pretty good football, though. 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: Running backs in this league. 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: Running backs everything quarterback, it's football. 59 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: It's NFL rules football or the running backs. 60 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 2: In that league. As upset as the running backs are 61 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: in the NFL. 62 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: The running backs killing in this boy, they was whoa many? 63 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: But are they getting paid? No, I'm sure I don't. 64 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: Let me find out what the salary is. 65 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: It's right, please do well. I mean, that's been that's 66 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: obviously been front and center all week long. And I've 67 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: been waiting to talk to my man, the offensive lineman 68 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: whose job it is to make life this year for 69 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: NFL running backs for his entire career. You're where you 70 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: are because of making life easier for running backs. And 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: it feels like we are at like a crossroads. The 72 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: running backs certainly feel like they're at a crossroads right now. 73 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: So what do you think of all this? 74 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 3: I think it's a shame. I think it's. 75 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: It's crazy how the position has been devalued. I think 76 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 4: the drafting structure, if I was a running back, I'd 77 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: never want to be drafted in the first round because 78 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: what we're seeing now is they're saying it's over for 79 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: you at twenty seven. So you basically just have that 80 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 4: five year contract, they pick up your fifth season option. 81 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 4: They don't want to pay you anymore. So if you're 82 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: twenty two coming out of college and you play for 83 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: five years and you're up for it up to be 84 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 4: a free agent, they'll franchise you at the I think 85 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: it might be the lowest franchise in football going down. 86 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: And so to me it seems like, I mean, collectively, 87 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: they're gonna have to get together and make a decision 88 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: because the way it's set up now when you look 89 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: at the people who are winning Super Bowls right when 90 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: we look at Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs with Patrick Mahomes 91 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: have never really had a dynamic running game. 92 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: They have never needed it. 93 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: So this notion of you don't need the running game 94 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 4: or running back or a premier running back to win 95 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: a Super Bowl is what the sentiment is. But it's 96 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: not necessarily true. Like you look at Tom Brady. Tom 97 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 4: Brady didn't really need running game to win a Super Bowl. 98 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 4: But we're looking at the outliers, right, We're looking at 99 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: you don't have Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes any other 100 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 4: team right. Nobody has Tom Brady now, but no one 101 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 4: has Patrick Mahomes. So if you feel like, because they 102 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: did it, Patrick can win a Super Bowl and the 103 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: Chiefs can win a Super Bowl without paying a running 104 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 4: back or having you know, the best running back or 105 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: the league leading rusher in the league, So we. 106 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: Don't have to that's the problem. 107 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 4: That's the problem, because you're not going to get an 108 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: opportunity to get there if you don't really have a 109 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: running back in the backfield. 110 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: Well, except for what if I said it this way, 111 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: we spend a whole lot of money on a running back, 112 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: we don't necessarily have the opportunity to spend the money 113 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: on that player you just described, which is actually what 114 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: we need. Because if I go around the league right now, 115 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: to all of the qbs and all of the teams 116 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: that people feel like are probably gonna win this whole thing, 117 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: most of them are going about it that way. Okay, well, 118 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: not just Mahomes, also Josh Allen, it's also the Philadelphia Eagles. 119 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: And before you say San Francisco forty nine ers, they're 120 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: doing it because of a unicorn. 121 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say that. What I 122 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 4: was gonna say with why was Philly so good? 123 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: Was it. 124 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: Because Jalen Hurts was a dynamic passer and all No, 125 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: they had the top rushing offense in the league. 126 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: Run game, right, yes, the run game, but how many 127 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: different people were able to succeed in that run game. 128 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: Well that's the whole point. 129 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: But if you get a Sanders and he got hurt 130 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: towards the end there, but he was one of the 131 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: league leading rushers, there's a reason we're looking at the 132 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 4: end product saying, well, you don't need it to get 133 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: to hear, but you're not looking at the work that 134 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 4: happened during this when he was carrying the ball and 135 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: he was verging five yards to carry right like, so 136 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: we don't look at that part. We're just looking at 137 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 4: the end like you don't really need it. There's no 138 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: success there if they don't have a dynamic running game 139 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: with dynamic running backs for Philadelphia. 140 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: Also, okay, but if they felt that way from about 141 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: Miles Sanders, why isn't he still on. 142 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: The team because running backs are now replaceable? That's the whole. 143 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: Motion now, and you just said it. You just said 144 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:36,239 Speaker 2: it like from an emotional standpoint. From a conceptual standpoint, 145 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: I can't disagree with anything that you're saying. I'm not 146 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: going to call it fair. I don't necessarily believe that 147 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: running backs should be devalued the concept in my brain. 148 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: But how do I argue with an NFL team that 149 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: says we can get the exact same production turn and 150 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: burn by putting somebody else in there for a lot 151 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: less money. So it essentially means we're asking for the 152 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: NFL to have a heart, and he from We've done this, 153 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: We've done this conversation about fifteen thousand different ways. 154 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 5: The NFL is not going to have a heart. 155 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: Let me ask you one question, and I just want 156 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: to find away an honest answer. So the Giants opted 157 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: to pay Daniel Jones. Yes, so without Saquon Barkley, you 158 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: think Daniel Jones can get them to the playoffs into 159 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 4: a super Bowl. 160 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if Daniel Jones can get it with 161 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 2: Sakwon Barkley. But I do think that James Robinson is 162 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: an interesting player. I'll say it that way. He's an 163 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: interesting player interesting. Hold On, don't laugh. I did not 164 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: say he was sa Kwon bark. 165 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 4: I mean you alluded to it, but you know even 166 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: to mention it in the same who I think. 167 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: No, it's not disrespectful because you're essentially what you're asking 168 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: me is, do I think an NFL team can win 169 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: with a James Robinson type as their lead back? 170 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 4: Yep, and and not at Patrick Mahomes at quarterback. We're 171 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: talking about Daniel Jones that you gave the money to, 172 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: and you didn't want to give the money to Saquon Barkley. 173 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 4: This is a direct example. This is a direct example. 174 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: Where were they going with where they're going without? 175 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: Right? 176 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 4: If decides to sit out, where what what draft pick 177 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: do they get next year? 178 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: You're going your what draft pick do they get? The 179 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 2: same place? You ended up in the same place either 180 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: way you or without them, which is not good enough? 181 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 5: So why pay it? 182 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 4: No, you're going to the layoffs, You're you're gonna have 183 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: a chance, You'll have a chance to win that division 184 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: or compete in that division with Barkley. You will not 185 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 4: without circumstances. Circumstances, you don't think the Giants have an 186 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 4: opportunity to compete for that division with sakuon Barkley. 187 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the third best team. I think that the 188 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: third best team out of four teams. That's what I 189 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: think even with him. 190 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: Did you just. 191 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: Yes? I did? Yeah, I did. All right, this is 192 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: an interesting conversation. Let's keep it going. Brought to you 193 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. 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Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 215 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen. 216 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 2: Live right we liveinthetirack dot com studios. That's Mark Weathered 217 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: and e from Salam Watherdin Salam every single Sunday night, 218 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: five to eight Pacific here across all of these Foxsports 219 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: Radio networks. Thank you so much for being with us. 220 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: Look e from You're not just a businessman, You're a 221 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: business man. I know that. I know that. I know that, 222 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: and therefore I know what you know, which is that 223 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: the market, in a matter of speaking, is always fair. 224 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: Now I'm not gonna say always always always, because sure 225 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: there is discrimination out there against all kinds of different groups. 226 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: But this isn't that they're not discriminating against a running 227 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: back so that they can pay a quarterback or a 228 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: wide receiver or even a left tackle. That's not what's 229 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: going on here. Worth on the market is determined by 230 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: that market and by the replaceability of whatever you provide, 231 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: and so like, I know, it's not fair, of course 232 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: it's not fair. And yes, sa Quon is special, the 233 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: same way Austin Eckler is special and Josh Jacobs is special. 234 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 5: They're all special. However, by and. 235 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: Large, across the league, we've also watched players who we 236 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: think are special and then we come to find out 237 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: that they're actually just a product of the system. And 238 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: with your history with names like Shanahan, you know this. 239 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: You know this right, like orlandis Gary, Mike Anderson. Are 240 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: they good football players? Sure, but we got used to 241 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: the idea that whoever was back there was going to 242 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: run for twelve hundred yards because right, because there was 243 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: a system. So if there's a system and you can 244 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: plug and play, and if the nature of the position 245 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: itself causes such a repeated car wreck that by the 246 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: time you're thirty you are a lesser version of yourself, 247 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: I feel bad for you. But what is it that 248 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: the NFL is to do. They're not wrong, They're not 249 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: supposed to pay you at age twenty nine, just because 250 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: they want to thank you. 251 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 5: So what's the fix. 252 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: What I'm saying is plug and play systems are great. 253 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: Every team doesn't have that. The New York Giants don't 254 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: have a plug and play system. 255 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: That's Joe. 256 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: The Oakland Raiders don't have a plug and play system. 257 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: The Los Angeles Chargers don't have a plug and play system? 258 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: Would they? 259 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 4: All three of those? They have dynamic running backs. So 260 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: if you are under the assumption that we can just 261 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: get anybody in here and have the success that our 262 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 4: young quarterbacks have been having without a dynamic running back, oh, 263 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: I can't wait to see this. That's all I'm saying. 264 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: If you're a team, if you're a team and you know, 265 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: like you knew in Denver the system, if you were, 266 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: if you can hold the ball and run it, you 267 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: can gain a thousand yards. Now it took TD to 268 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: be special and get two thousand yards. That's a dynamic 269 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: running back. To Clinton portis to be special and rush 270 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 4: back to back fifteen hundred yards seasons. You're welcome very much. 271 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: Clinton. 272 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: So you know, like even in Atlanta when I was 273 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 4: with Atlanta, we had the dirty Birds and Jamal Anderson 274 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 4: was back there that wasn't a system that was Jamal 275 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 4: Anderson being better than everybody else, right because when. 276 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: He got hurt, Maul Anderson, when he got hurt. 277 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: But when he got hurt, we couldn't run the ball 278 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 4: for twenty yards a game. 279 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: Right, which you could look at it and go, well, 280 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: that makes Jamal valuable, and the Falcons will look at 281 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: it and go no, because why would we pay someone 282 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: who can't stay healthy? Not at the time, It's not it. Look, 283 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: there's nothing fair about it. But even if I said, okay, 284 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: I'll acknowledge a drop off in production. If somebody is 285 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: going to get you four point five yards per carry 286 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: for or thirteen million dollars a year, but somebody else 287 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: canna get you four point three for three million dollars 288 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: a year, what do you think they're gonna pick? Right? Like, 289 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: even if I acknowledge how special some of these running 290 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: backs are, I mean, hell Eckler is a wonderful example here. 291 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: Eckler is actually the closest thing to Christian McCaffrey that 292 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: this league has, and is the reason why I can 293 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: justify paying Christian McCaffrey because he actually plays two positions, 294 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: if not more. And so that's the kind of thing 295 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. But even with Eckler being the the 296 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: you know, the poor man's McCaffrey, I know damn well 297 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: that that organization's not paying him. Of course they're not. 298 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: They don't do that and they never will. So Eckler, 299 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: if he wants to hold out, good luck. Every draft 300 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: pick almost always holds out there because that's the way 301 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: they're going to play it. So it can be not fair. 302 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: But we've watched these standoffs before. Le'Veon Bell is the 303 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: most famous one. He's a celebrity boxer. Now, so what 304 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: are you gonna do? You're right, not fair? What's the answer, 305 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: what's the what's the running back supposed to do? If 306 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: Barkley wants to sit the whole year out, newsflash, it's 307 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 2: gonna go well for him. 308 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not gonna go well for the Giants either. 309 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: That's I agree, But they have they're gonna stand off 310 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: and win in the long run. Like we could make 311 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: the cases, it has not gone well for the Steelers either. 312 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: It's not going well for the Steelers either, but I 313 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: haven't been able it's gonna go better for them than 314 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: it is for Labia. 315 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, the league doesn't need any particular player at any 316 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 4: particular time. The league will be just fine without Patrick Mahomes. 317 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: The league will be fine without Justin Herbert, right, They'll 318 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 4: be you know, we won't be as excited sometimes, but 319 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 4: it'll the league will survive. All I'm saying is from 320 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 4: a team standpoint, a winning standpoint, a giving yourself a 321 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: chance to win standpoint. 322 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, you can do that if you want to. 323 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 4: You don't offer the man the money you I mean, 324 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: they had an option to pay him before they paid 325 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. That's why you could have got the discount. 326 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 4: What was Daniel Jones gonna do? What was he gonna do? 327 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 4: Hold out leave? Who was about to pay Daniel Jones? 328 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 4: That's a real question. Who was about to pay Daniel 329 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: Jones after one year of okay football? With Saquon Barkley 330 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 4: there to do most of the heavy lifting, who is 331 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 4: about to pay out but Daniel Jones forty five million 332 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 4: dollars a year? 333 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: No one could paying forty five millions of dollars a year, 334 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: But somebody probably would have paid him twenty five okay, 335 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: which is which is still time and a half for 336 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: what Sakuon Barkley is about to get if he shows up. 337 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: I get it, man, I just in terms of value. 338 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 4: I know this is a quarterback league and you feel 339 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: like you have to stack your value at the quarterback position. 340 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 4: But when you're stacking that particular value on someone who 341 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: doesn't hold the same level of value, that scratches. That 342 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 4: makes me scratch my head. Well, oh, I can't wait 343 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 4: to see these first six games without say, go on, 344 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 4: Barkley boy, is there? 345 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: What's the kid's name? You said? Looks? Oh? What did interesting? 346 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: James Robinson? James Robinson look interesting? He's James Robinson, guy 347 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: from Jackson. He's a good running back. Yeah. 348 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: A couple of years ago, he was a good running back. 349 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: He's a good running back. Yeah, a couple of years ago, 350 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: he was a good running back. Then he got hurt. 351 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 4: Then he got hurt, got hurt, then he got traded. 352 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: Then he got traded. Yeah, so but where somebody? But 353 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 4: what another thing? 354 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty he ran for over a thousand yards and 355 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 2: caught forty nine passes out of the backfield. 356 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: Oh he helped me win my fantasy football league. 357 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: Damn right, yep, me too, me too. 358 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I know exactly his worth. 359 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: But if you had a choice to pick him or 360 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 4: say Quon Barkley to lead your team. 361 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: Barkley. 362 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 4: Okay, So what I'm saying is James Robinson is a 363 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 4: good come in, get you some tough year. No defenses 364 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: are preparing for James Robinson, and they're nobody in there. 365 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: There in lies the value. No defenses are preparing. You're 366 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 4: right for James Robinson. 367 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is, if I'm the New York Giants, 368 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: do I want say quon'sduction for fifteen million a year 369 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: or do I want James Robinson's for maybe a third 370 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: of that at best. 371 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 4: Maybe even Well, it depends on what your team goals are. 372 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 4: That's that's That's an easy question. It depends on what 373 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: your If your team goals are to play seventeen games, 374 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 4: then absolutely right, you're at games. Sign him up, let's go. 375 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, he makes two million dollars a year. 376 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 4: Yes, If your team goals are ninety seventeen games, then yes, 377 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 4: you won. You got you gonna hit your goal. Now, 378 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: if your team goals are to compete for division and 379 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 4: make it to the playoffs and try to make it 380 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 4: a run at the super Bowl, then you're you're failing. 381 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: At that goal. 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That right at 400 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour, Bam, Steve de Sager split 401 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: out just like Steve. 402 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 7: It's like watching the old Batman TV series is. 403 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: Exactly Boffe, but Dan. 404 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 7: The MLB payrolls to start the season, we're notably high 405 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 7: for teams like the Mets. You know, Yankees, Padres, Phillies, Angels. 406 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 7: Are any of them going to be making the playoffs? 407 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 7: Just officially? The Mets are still awful. They're down five 408 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 7: to nothing at Boston in the bottom of the fourth 409 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 7: inning tonight. Starter for New York, Carlos Carrasco in two 410 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 7: and a third innings, gave up five runs and ten hits. 411 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 7: If the Mets lose tonight, they'll be forty six and fifth, 412 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 7: fifty three, the Padres twelve, forty eight and fifty two. 413 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 7: After they lost at Detroit three to one. The lost 414 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 7: to Joe Musgrove, who had been nine to two this season. 415 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 7: Angels got to win over Pittsburgh seven to five, show 416 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 7: Hey Otani with his thirty sixth homer that leads the 417 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 7: major leagues the key question. The Angels have a record 418 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 7: of fifty one and forty nine, and the MLB trade 419 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 7: deadline is August first. They are with the added wildcard 420 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 7: last year, just four games behind the Blue Jays for 421 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 7: that final wildcard spot in the AO. Toronto won its 422 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 7: game four to three at Seattle. Houston was a three 423 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 7: to two winner at Oakland. Houston second place in the AOS, 424 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 7: three games behind the first place Texas Rangers, who beat 425 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 7: up the Dodgers eight to four. Boy did the Dodgers 426 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 7: need a pitcher of three by the trade deadline. Max 427 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 7: Buntsey of La hit a grand slam in the top 428 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 7: of the first they were behind. Shortly after that, Yankees 429 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 7: beat Kansas City eight five. Boy did they get well? 430 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 7: They got to host the Royals all weekend. The loss 431 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 7: to Jordan Lyles, who's one and twelve for Kansas City 432 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 7: era six. 433 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 3: Point one nine. 434 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 7: Royals have lost five in a row Washington and Atlanta 435 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 7: with wins. Cincinnati won its fifth in a row ten 436 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 7: inning victories for Philadelphia and Miami. Minnesota in twelve beat 437 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 7: the White Sox five to four. The Twins are first 438 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 7: place in the AL Central, three games ahead of Cleveland. 439 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 7: Scott Rowland and Fred McGriff went into the Hall of 440 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 7: Fame today. Most NFL veterans report to camp on Tuesday. 441 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 7: Things are official for the Raiders in quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo 442 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 7: now that he has passed his physical. The guaranteed money 443 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 7: the contract is all set. He will not start camp 444 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 7: on the pup list. Ravens wide receiver Reshad Bateman was 445 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 7: reinstated from the did not report list at the Women's 446 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 7: World Cup FS one. We'll have a triple header starting 447 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 7: late tonight this morning our time. Jamaica tied number five 448 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 7: ranked France zero zero. Denny Hamlin took the NASCAR race 449 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 7: at Pocono and the winner of the Open just call 450 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 7: it the Open American Brian Harmon by six stroates. This 451 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 7: was not even close all weekend. Long John, after a 452 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 7: poor starting to the tourney, tied for second place, as 453 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 7: did Jason Day, a guy who's a five foot seven 454 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 7: lefty is Champion Golfer. 455 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: Of the Year. 456 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 7: Harmon won the US Junior twenty years ago. He had 457 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 7: only won twice on the PGA Tour, but wins today. 458 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: Back to you, Steve, great stuff. Yeah, the Open Championship 459 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: with the obviously, with the weird times and the fact 460 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: that it wasn't close. This is going to be a 461 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: bummer thing for Harmon because he's not a big name 462 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: and even though he's an American, Like, doesn't it feel 463 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: like everyone's just like, did that even happen? Did like? 464 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 2: Did that? Resonate with anyone whatsoever. I'm thinking not Mark 465 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: Willardy from Salam with you Fox Sports Radio. Okay, from 466 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: let's talk about the Super Bowl. And then I got 467 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: something else to tell you about with these running backs. 468 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 2: But earlier this year, it was the Chiefs. Year before that, 469 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: the Rams twenty twenty one, the Bucks twenty twenty, the Chiefs. 470 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: Before that, it was the Patriots over the Rams. Twenty eighteen, 471 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: that was Philadelphia, Nick Foles over the Patriots. Year before that, 472 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: the comeback Patriots over the Falcons. Year before that, Peyton 473 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: Manning Denver beats Carolina twenty four to ten. Year before that, 474 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: New England twenty eight, twenty four, the interception thrown by 475 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. I'm all the way back at twenty fifteen 476 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: from which of those teams had a marque running back? Nobody? 477 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: So why are we talking about marquee running backs and 478 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: their ability to lead someone to a Super Uti Because 479 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: spoiler alert, I can keep going and we're not going 480 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: to get to anyone. Does that anymore? 481 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: Can I can? 482 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 4: I can you do me a favor? Which with that 483 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 4: list of games, can you tell me the quarterbacks? 484 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 2: I can tell you all the quarterbacks tell me the quarterbacks. Yeah, 485 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: so it went Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, tom Brady, Nick Foles, 486 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, Matthew Stafford, Patrick Mahomes. 487 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 4: So you had two. You had two outliers there and 488 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford. 489 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: That's the and and by the way, let me yes, 490 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 2: his his well, but his name was Peyton Manning. But 491 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: let's be honest, right, that was a broken down Peyton Manning. 492 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: Well, let's just just just say this. You just named 493 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 3: in that. 494 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 4: Arguably two of the well three of the top three 495 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 4: quarterbacks ever ever live. Of course, so yeah, I would say, no, 496 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 4: they don't. They probably don't need a marquee running back 497 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 4: to win the Super Bowl. I also will say, how 498 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 4: many teams currently have one of the top three quarterbacks 499 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 4: to ever play the game in the history of football? 500 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: Well, that would be one. 501 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 4: Okay, there we go. You don't have to have running 502 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: backs if you don't want to. But unless you have 503 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: one of those three guys and two of them don't play, 504 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 4: no more. Good luck. But that's all I'm saying. But 505 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: aren't you making my I'm not. What I'm saying is 506 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: like you you Yes, what I opened this by saying 507 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 4: people are confused because they think, Okay, well, look who's 508 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 4: winning the Patrick Mahomes just won the Super Bowl. 509 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: They don't have a dynamic running game. 510 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they have the greatest quarterback arguably to ever 511 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 4: play if he continues at this clip. 512 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: No other team in the league has that. 513 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: So if you're trying to base your success off of 514 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 4: what the Kansas City Chiefs are doing with Patrick Mahomes, 515 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 4: good luck. 516 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: You. You don't have that. No, but my rebuttal would be this, 517 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: and I'm not saying to be defeatist. Where is the 518 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: evidence that you're going to beat one of those guys 519 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: with an elite running back? Because even if we outliers, 520 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: because if I kept going a little bit longer, I 521 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: would have gotten to Russell Wilson and then Joe Flaps. 522 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: And without March, they don't do any of that. 523 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 4: What Okay, there under and for Eli Manning with Jacobs 524 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: and uh Ward and right, listen, then you can get 525 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 4: back to Marshall Falk. Then you can get to Terrell 526 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 4: Davis and like right. 527 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 2: And we have to go back twenty years when it 528 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: wasn't such a passing league. Right. 529 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 5: My point is I don't hate running backs? 530 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: You hate running backs? 531 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 4: Were you in high school and did the run take 532 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 4: your prom date? That's the energy you have right now? 533 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: Mark, Okay, look at hey, hey, hey, listen to me. 534 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: You know how tough I am. You think I played football? 535 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 4: No, I'm saying you were just a regular guy and 536 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 4: the star running back at the school swooped in too. 537 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 5: Did take my prom date? He ain't nobody take my 538 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 5: damn prom date? 539 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 4: No. 540 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: I had a skinny tie and a belcrow wallet, and 541 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: nobody was leaving me at the door hanging. That's how 542 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: it went. Okay. But even if we want to go 543 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: to the outliers in recent years, what do we find? 544 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 2: Nick Foles forty one points, hucking the ball all over 545 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: the yard? Matt Stafford, who's there? Running back? I wonder 546 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: do you want to know who led the Rams when 547 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 2: they beat the Bengals, when they beat the Bengals twenty 548 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: three to twenty to win the Super Bowl? 549 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 5: Can you name their leading rusher? 550 00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: I don't know who that was? 551 00:31:59,560 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: Who was? 552 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: His name was Cam Akers? Okay, so actually a name 553 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: that's still out there. Do you don't know how many 554 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: yards he ran for twenty one twenty one? But how many. 555 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: I rushed forward doing the season to help them get there. 556 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: I can give you that. I can give you that. 557 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: I mean, so you have to look at the totality 558 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: of it. 559 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: Right with their time. 560 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: Making this season twenty twenty two, he ran for seven 561 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty six yards. He caught thirteen balls for 562 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: one seventeen. I got nothing against cam Ephrom. 563 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 3: They also had the number one defense in the league. 564 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 4: You're making my point, know what I'm doing. I'm telling 565 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 4: you you either have Look, you have to have these 566 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 4: two things. Okay, you have to have a lockdown. 567 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: Quarterback right one of the top five. Ever. 568 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 4: You have to have the number one defense with the 569 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 4: one arguably the greatest defensive interior lineman to ever play. 570 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: So why wouldn't I say way of this? So why 571 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: wouldn't I save all my money for that even if 572 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: I don't have it that year? Where are even if 573 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: I don't have it that yet, where you're gonna get 574 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: them from? You got to keep. 575 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 5: You your flexibility the draft. 576 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 4: Who knows who's gonna come? Liar, who's going They're outliars? Man, 577 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying the greatest from boy. 578 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: Why am I locking up five years of cap money 579 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: on the dude, that's not the key to the lock. 580 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: Hey, that man his money. 581 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: Why. You have to tell me why, and you can't 582 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: say because they're good. You gotta tell me what the 583 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: goal is and tell me that they can help you 584 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 2: unlock the key. There's just no evidence. I hear what 585 00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 2: you're saying. I say, Kwan's amazing. But the Giants are 586 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: correctly looking at this by going, I'm not gonna win 587 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: us the super Bowl. It's not gonna win us the 588 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: super Bowl. You've argued on this show this year. The 589 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: Raiders are incentivized to lose. Why do they want just 590 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: Jacobs out there getting all kinds of yards for Jimmy Garoppolo. 591 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 5: They want Caleb Williams. Why would they do it? 592 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: I know it's fair, but that's not the NFL, so 593 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: not fair. 594 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 4: If that was the case, why wouldn't the Giants sign 595 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley and get Caleb Williams. Our positioned themselves to 596 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 4: get Caleb Williams instead of tying wealth to a media 597 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 4: a mediocre quarterback for the next five years at a 598 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 4: price is way above its value. What are you doing there? 599 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 4: You're not a question, You're not doing anything. You're literally 600 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 4: just throwing money out the window. Daniel Jones, he was 601 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 4: about to be out the league right without Brian David, 602 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 4: he was about to be out of the league. 603 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 2: Brother, I hear you, all right. We can question it, 604 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: you can question it absolutely, But teams are terrified to 605 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 2: be a laughing stock if there's no quarter. 606 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 4: I'm an offensive lineman. Man, Run the ball, player, I 607 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 4: hear you. Run the ball. 608 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 5: The league used to be like when you played, the 609 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 5: league was like that. 610 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 4: Run the ball, man. League's not like that anymore. Let's 611 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 4: set the tempo. Let's not start the game with five passes. 612 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 4: Let's start it with full runs. I guarantee you we 613 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 4: get your first down. 614 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 5: Tennessee Titan Football do exactly what you're saying. 615 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 3: Perfect. 616 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 4: They are in the playoffs every year. 617 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 2: And what happens when they get every year? 618 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 4: Hey man, you gotta get there first to Giant's not 619 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 4: even gonna get there. 620 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 2: They're not about to get there. Hey Tripp, we'll see, yeah, 621 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 2: we will see all right. Look tyrack dot Com Studios. 622 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 2: At the end of your first year, discover credit cards 623 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 2: automatic double all the cash back you've earned. 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He not going anywhere if you say so. 634 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 4: He said, so, all right, Well, do we listen to 635 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 4: Aaron rodgerster? I mean, when did that become gospel? When 636 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 4: did that become gospel? 637 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: It's not gospel, but it's interesting. 638 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 4: Hey man, I'm not listening to Aaron Rodgers. I'm just 639 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 4: gonna watch him play because the last time I saw 640 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 4: him play, he was garbage. So don't talk to me 641 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 4: to death. You got a young team, they got dynamic talent. 642 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 4: Let's show some leadership and let's lead them. Let's take 643 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 4: them to a place they haven't been in a long time. 644 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 4: That's the playoffs. Then after the season, based on the success, 645 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 4: talk to me about how long you gonna play? 646 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 2: Is that fit? That's fair? Right? Sure? 647 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 3: Like I don't want to hear any of that now. 648 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I mean he's answering a question, Hey, Aaron, 649 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: how long do you want to play? And he answered it. 650 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 2: I do think people want to hear from Aaron Rodgers. 651 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes we want to hear from people we think we 652 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 2: don't want to hear from. I mean, I'm not gonna 653 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: name names, but go around to your national debate shows, 654 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 2: and how many people do you know who are like 655 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,959 Speaker 2: I really love hearing from that guy. No, no one's 656 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 2: gonna say they love hearing from them, but they're gonna 657 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 2: tune in every day and they're going to react to 658 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 2: what they say. And Aaron Rodgers is a player version 659 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 2: of that. There's no doubt. 660 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 3: I only watch those the people I want to hear from. 661 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I can't do the other stuff. Okay, 662 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: I hear you. I hear you. I think you're a 663 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 2: little bit more rational, a little bit more on the 664 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: inside than most. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel you. But 665 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: you know when Aaron talks, Yeah, we turn the MIC's on, 666 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 2: we turn the lights on, and we listen. For sure, 667 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: and the New York Jets are more interesting this year 668 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 2: than they've been in the past. And I don't know 669 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 2: if I think they're a playoff team, But if you 670 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: force me into the corner, I pick yes. 671 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 4: In the AFC, yep, yeah, Okay. 672 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 2: I mean all four of those teams are gonna have 673 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 2: for those divisions, are gonna have a winner now, right, 674 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 2: and then you're gonna get three more teams. So let 675 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 2: me say, what if I just say, take the four 676 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 2: teams that we all have decided or winning the divisions, 677 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 2: even though I bet they won't. But take the Chiefs, Jags, Bengals, 678 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: and Bills out of this. Okay, where do the Jets 679 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 2: rank with everything that's left then you have? Are they 680 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 2: better than the Dolphins? 681 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. With the healthy two one, No, I 682 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 3: wouldn't say that. 683 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: Okay, are they better than the Patriots? 684 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 3: Get there? 685 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 2: Better than the. 686 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 5: Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Browns. 687 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 3: Not better than the Ravens. 688 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 2: Okay, Titans, Colts, Texans. 689 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 3: And they not better than the Titans. 690 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 2: Really, I think they're better than the Titans. 691 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 3: I wouldn't No, No, I wouldn't say that. 692 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: I mean Chargers, Raiders, Broncos, reason all those teams. 693 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 4: The reason I say that is because the Titans may 694 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 4: win that division, they might not be the Jags. 695 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 2: Well, but okay, whoever's left over, right, I see what 696 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 2: you're saying. 697 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't think they're better in Tennessee, and 698 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 4: I don't think they're better than Jacksonville. 699 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, of all those teams I just mentioned, they 700 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 2: just got to be one of the top three, and 701 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: I think that that's moderately realistic. But more on that 702 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 2: and another team where we need to ask that exact 703 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: same question coming up next on Fox Sports Radio. 704 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 705 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 706 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 707 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: listen live. 708 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: If the running back position is polarizing, then what is 709 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 2: the quarterback position? Plus there's actually developing news on this 710 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 2: running back conversation that we've been having for the last hour, 711 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 2: so we will get back to it. Mark Willard and 712 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 2: from Salam Fox Sports Radio, thank you so much for 713 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: being with us this evening all across the land, broadcasting 714 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 2: live from the ti rag dot com studios. Ti raq 715 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 2: dot com will help you get there at un matt selection, 716 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free roadhazard protection, and over ten thousand 717 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 2: recommended installers tiraq dot com the way tire buying should 718 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 2: be from, especially for those just joining us. I think 719 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 2: the synopsis of what you've said the first hour is, sure, 720 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 2: a great running back doesn't necessarily or clearly does not 721 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 2: equal having a great quarterback. But most teams don't have 722 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 2: a great quarterback, So why not put the resources into 723 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 2: a great running back If you don't, all right, hold 724 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 2: that thought and let's go to another team. Let's talk 725 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 2: about the San Francisco forty nine ers for a second. 726 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan, a guy you know well, said this week 727 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 2: on NFL Network that he quote like all three options 728 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 2: at quarterback and that's quote pretty cool to have that 729 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 2: as a backdrop for his roster. Now, I'd argue he's 730 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: only saying that because party is hurt. If brock Perty 731 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: wasn't hurt, I don't think you speak about your quarterbacks 732 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 2: in public that way. He's speaking about options because he 733 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: knows that the forty nine ers week one might need 734 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 2: to use one of the other two options. But to 735 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 2: the point that you've made over the last hour, which 736 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: is that quarterbacking greatness beats out everything else in the NFL. 737 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 5: Can you speak to this? 738 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: You don't want quote options at quarterback at all? Do 739 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: you know? I'd argue that it's not cool. I don't 740 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 2: want options. I want one option, and I want that 741 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 2: in a perfect world, to be abundant, clear, not just 742 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 2: for the fan base, but above all else for the 743 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 2: locker room. 744 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want options. You don't want multiple options, 745 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 4: and you don't want no options, right because when you're 746 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 4: at those two precipice then you're losing. If you got 747 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 4: more than one quarterback, you don't have a quarterback. So 748 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 4: the notion of this is more of a political statement 749 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 4: for him. I like all three options. You gotta remember 750 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 4: the San Francisco forty nine ers just came off playing 751 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 4: and they were out of options in the NFC Championship game, 752 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 4: literally out of options. So if you go into camp 753 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:03,479 Speaker 4: with three quarterbacks, one that you will be the starter 754 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 4: at Rock Purty once he's healthy, then yeah, you feel 755 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 4: good about yourself. But knowing that you it came down 756 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 4: to you not having anyone, right, I mean that was 757 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 4: I mean the forty nine ers were on their way. 758 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 4: They're making a dynamic run with the kid nobody had 759 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 4: ever heard of before, and he was playing great football 760 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, out of options, one play done, 761 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 4: and so he feels good about the three options that 762 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 4: he has because he just came from a place of none. 763 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 4: And I get that. I understand that going into training 764 00:44:48,840 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 4: camp with more than just a quarterback available means something, right, 765 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 4: it means something. Now, you've got plenty of time for 766 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 4: Brock to get healthy. Trey Lance is there. Maybe he is, 767 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 4: and maybe he's not developing. 768 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 769 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 4: But then you bring in someone like a Sam Donald, 770 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 4: who in that scheme probably will be a very successful quarterback. 771 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 2: There are people here, and I know you know that 772 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:28,919 Speaker 2: this is a hotly discussed topic, even though training camp 773 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: has only opened for rookies. There are people who believe 774 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 2: that what Kyle said last week, and tucked into the comments, 775 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 2: he said, I know people want it to be set 776 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 2: in stone, but it's not set in stone. People have 777 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 2: translated that to mean it's an open competition at the 778 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 2: quarterback position. It's wide open. Now. I want you to 779 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 2: tell me if I'm taking the wrong side on this, 780 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 2: because I've tried to coach the forty nine. 781 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 4: Er fan base through the idea of that. It's what 782 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 4: you said, These are the things that he has to 783 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,760 Speaker 4: say in the sort of political climate. 784 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 2: But also I think it's funny. And part of this 785 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 2: is excitement about the number three overall picking the draft 786 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 2: a year and a half ago and the controversy that 787 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 2: that brings in that he has barely played in talking 788 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 2: about Trey Lance. But the excitement at the idea of 789 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 2: open competition. I'm like, if you are a fan of 790 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 2: a team, you do not want a quarterback open competition 791 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 2: in the month of August. Ever, what good comes out 792 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 2: of that? It means by definition that neither one of 793 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 2: them is really that dude. And secondly, and this is 794 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 2: what I'd really love to hear you speak on boy. 795 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 2: That feels like that would mess up a locker room 796 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,240 Speaker 2: something awful, don't you think. 797 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, But I'm not. In terms of what's going on 798 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 4: in San Francisco. They know their quarterback is there's no competition, 799 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's yeah, they're fine. They 800 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 4: just need this kid to get healthy, they need him 801 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 4: to be ready to go in September. But outside of that, 802 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 4: the competition will be who's gonna be number two. Cam 803 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:30,240 Speaker 4: can Trey Lance. I don't know, it's been what three years? 804 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 4: Can he all of us say there three, you know, 805 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 4: take steps forward. I mean he should be able to 806 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 4: beat out Sam Darnold though you know, well you would 807 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 4: hope that, you would hope you got to You got 808 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 4: also two first round draft picks, uh vying for second 809 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 4: string job. I mean, that's a that's a pretty good 810 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 4: problem to have. Well, Oat, it's great talent in theory. However, 811 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 4: it's also two guys. 812 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 2: It's two guys who have not progressed the way the 813 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 2: draft they have to progress. They have underperformed. And I 814 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 2: know people will go, but wait a minute, Trey hasn't played, 815 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 2: and that that brushes aside all the time that the 816 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 2: forty nine ers spend with him when it's not actually 817 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 2: a game, and they're clearly not seeing the stuff that 818 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 2: they want to see. To this point, here's something that's 819 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 2: more insider. And I've been meaning to ask you this 820 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 2: because everybody when they look at this situation is looking 821 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 2: for clues and Kyle, as we just said, he's not 822 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 2: going to give him. Oh, I like all three options, 823 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: and that's pretty cool. And yeah, we'll just I have 824 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 2: to wait and see, because Sam's awesome, and Trey's getting better, 825 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 2: and you saw what Brock did and blah blah blah 826 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 2: blah blah coach speak. Here's what I want to know. 827 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 2: Brock Perdy's arm is badly injured at the time that 828 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:05,760 Speaker 2: Free Agencies starts. However, all signs were good. The Niners 829 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 2: and brought got the information that they wanted to hear. Yes, 830 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 2: this is a garden variety UCL we can do the 831 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 2: surgery and you can be in theory if there are 832 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 2: no setbacks. Ready to go for week one and he 833 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,280 Speaker 2: went eight to o and the forty nine ers behind 834 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 2: closed doors are saying, that's our starting quarterback. Meantime, number 835 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 2: three overall pick from two years ago is also sitting there. 836 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 2: Sam Donald signed for guaranteed money right away. What did 837 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 2: they tell him to make him say? Yes, a guy 838 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 2: who clearly would have had options elsewhere? 839 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but what do you have the right options? 840 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 2: Well, I would imagine that Sam Darnald, who started a 841 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 2: bunch of football games down the stretch and is not 842 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 2: that far removed from being a top five pick himself, 843 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 2: I would imagine he could minimum find a clear path 844 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 2: to the two for some team. 845 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, but where minimum? But where right? 846 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 4: Okay, if you're a fan of Kyle Shanahan, which a 847 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 4: lot of quarterbacks are, no, If you're a fan of 848 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,959 Speaker 4: the talent on the Sam Francisco forty nine team, which 849 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 4: a lot of quarterbacks are boom, yes, then yeah, this 850 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 4: wasn't very difficult. If he says, hey, look, we're not 851 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,479 Speaker 4: happy with Trey and how he's you. If you saw 852 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 4: what happened to us, we were one quarterback away, you 853 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 4: can be that quarterback. 854 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 3: We're one quarterback away if we had you. 855 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,919 Speaker 4: And also if we had you in that NFC championship game, 856 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 4: would have been in the Super Bowl. 857 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 2: Sure, but you could also start the year being deactivated 858 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 2: a lot. And my that sounds embarrassing for either of 859 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 2: the top five picks who are facing that reality. 860 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 4: At this point in his career. Where he is now, Yeah, 861 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,760 Speaker 4: the ego is gone your backup quarterback, brother, that's interesting, 862 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 4: you're a backup quarterback. There is no ego. His trip 863 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 4: to where he is now is down. It's not up. 864 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 4: He's not still ascending. He's descending. So where do you 865 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 4: want to land? Do you want to land on the 866 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 4: on the bottom of as the Browns backup quarterback are 867 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 4: well right, like we're where are you trying to land back? 868 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 2: But some backups back up? 869 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 3: Hey man? 870 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,359 Speaker 2: Like that they. 871 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,760 Speaker 4: Ran out of quarterbacks in San Francisco. They're consistently running 872 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 4: out of quarterbacks. 873 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 2: This is true. However, I also don't believe that that's 874 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 2: the way Sam would look at it. Like, here's what 875 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 2: I'm asking. Do you think that that the forty nine 876 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 2: ers looked at Sam and his representative and said, at minimum, 877 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,399 Speaker 2: wink wink, we actually think you're ore too. 878 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 4: I don't think they did it like that. I think 879 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 4: they said you got a real opportunity here. The rumors 880 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 4: were out that they wanted they were looking to trade 881 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 4: Trey lance. That's what the rumors were. So you don't 882 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 4: have to say what I'm getting it, but you don't 883 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 4: have to sell that because that's what was out there, 884 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,439 Speaker 4: that they're looking to move off trade lance. So yeah, 885 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 4: I'm coming in. Of course, you guys are trying to 886 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 4: get It could have happened the next day. You don't 887 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 4: you don't know, it could still happen. So what you 888 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 4: want to do is you want to get to a 889 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 4: place where you feel comfortable. You think you can thrive 890 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 4: and you think you can restart your clock as a 891 00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 4: starter if something happens. That's his number. That was his number. 892 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 4: Number one goal was to get to a place where 893 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 4: if he've got a chance to play, he can reset 894 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 4: his starting clock, because that's clock is over. 895 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 3: He's run out of time there. 896 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 2: It's interesting, man, because as you said, it could still happen. 897 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 2: Whoever is going to end up being the three at 898 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 2: the end of August, Boy, they end up in a 899 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 2: real bad spot. I almost feel like, if Sam does 900 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 2: win that job, they've got to trade trade before they 901 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,720 Speaker 2: tell anybody that trade didn't even win the two, because 902 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 2: the sure as hell can't tell the world that he's 903 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 2: the three and then ever get anything out of him 904 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 2: going forward unless there's a total car wreck exactly like 905 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 2: last year and it ends up in his lap with 906 00:53:52,880 --> 00:54:00,439 Speaker 2: no choice, which could happen. But that's a bad look 907 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 2: to end up listed as the three after the man 908 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 2: has only started four games in his entire career be 909 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 2: a number three pick in the whole draft. 910 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 4: I understand that it's just he really is in a 911 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 4: good spot right now. Sam or Trey. Sam Trey is 912 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:29,439 Speaker 4: look that that that's that that ship has sailed, has 913 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 4: it now? Oh yeah, he's San Francisco. 914 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 2: I'd like to hear more about that. Plus what a 915 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 2: man who knows more about this position in that city 916 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 2: said about Brock Party this week. 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The 933 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 2: two most obvious reasons being a because brock Purdy is 934 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 2: not yet fully healthy and cleared, number one, and number two, 935 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 2: they have to be nice to Trey Lance, both just 936 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 2: to be nice but also to keep trade value up. 937 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 5: So if they truly do know who their quarterback is. 938 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 2: Does that put them in a category where we have 939 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 2: not been putting them so far? Because the forty nine 940 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 2: ers are the only one of the five to seven 941 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 2: Super Bowl favorites who doesn't have that stud quarterback. It's 942 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 2: Hertz and Burrow and Mahomes and Allen. Maybe some of 943 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 2: you will get to Doc or Lamar on that list, 944 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 2: or a Herbert, and then there's the forty nine ers 945 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 2: and people will go and they don't even know who 946 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 2: their quarterback is. And even if they do well he 947 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 2: I mean, my gosh, they're just winning with brock Purty. 948 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:40,359 Speaker 5: System quarterback from what you see, and how. 949 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 2: Many games do you have to see it before you 950 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 2: can believe what you see? 951 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 4: When I saw it, Rock Parties, I saw somebody who 952 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 4: couldn't be sped up and who couldn't be shaken, which 953 00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 4: is two ingredients you need in a stable, sustainable quarterback. 954 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 4: It never seemed like it was too big for him ever, 955 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 4: and every game was completely too big for mister irrelevant. 956 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 4: But you wouldn't tell. We would come on air and 957 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 4: talk about it, and right from the beginning that was 958 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 4: pretty good, or like we were living it together. 959 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 2: I can't wait, I can I say have o'clock Pacific 960 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 2: on Sundays, like I remember, wait, we will have. 961 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 4: We would talk and we were saying, okay, well, I said, 962 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 4: I would throw things out there to you. What if 963 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 4: he wins this, what happens if he takes him to 964 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 4: the playoffs, what happens if all of those things happened. 965 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 4: Every single one of them happened, except for what happens 966 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 4: if they win the Super Bowl with sure Shore And 967 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 4: that's because of a minute an injury. And I became 968 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 4: a rock pretty fan, Like I was like, yo, this 969 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 4: is my guy, you know. Seventh Rounders United, and we 970 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 4: lived in and talked through that journey and we were 971 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 4: utterly impressed every single week. So what I saw was 972 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 4: someone who was a starting quarterback in the NFL, and 973 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 4: he played like a starting quarterback in the NFL and 974 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 4: the toughest, biggest games on one of the most talented teams. 975 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 3: That's what I saw. 976 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 2: A starting quarterback in the NFL. That's a layered statement now, 977 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 2: and I'm not obviously asking if there's some sort of 978 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 2: a comparison between what the forty nine have at quarterback 979 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 2: and those other favorites I mentioned. Of course, there's nobody 980 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 2: is confusing this with Mahomes or Alan or Burrow or 981 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 2: or Jalen Hurts, although Jalen Hurts also a small sample 982 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 2: size of playing at his elite level, longer than Brock, 983 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 2: but still a small sample. Nobody went into last year 984 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 2: thinking it was gonna it was gonna look like that. 985 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 2: I guess what I play with all the time is this. 986 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 2: You know, eight games is one thing in professional sports, 987 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 2: it's all about sustainability. 988 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 5: But how many games? 989 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 2: Because we've seen people go on a run and and 990 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 2: and throw this out to all kinds of sports. There's insanity. 991 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 2: I can even do Jimmy like Ryan Fitzpatrick, like Fitzmagic 992 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 2: will show up for four weeks and you're like, damn, 993 00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 2: but it doesn't last, right, how many games before you go, Okay, 994 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,439 Speaker 2: that's it, that's just who this is a season. Next 995 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 2: at the end of the season, okay, then you so 996 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 2: he's not there yet? 997 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 4: No, No, no, he's not there yet. No, no, because we 998 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 4: got the same thing with uh with Jimmy Garoppolo, right 999 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 4: seven o seven as a starter, right, it was it 1000 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 4: three in New England and then he came right in one. 1001 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 2: They yes, well right they when they when he showed up, 1002 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 2: he won six in a row for an awful team 1003 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 2: that was one in ten before or or whatever. It 1004 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 2: was right like, yeah, we got one here right then, 1005 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 2: the injury average, they had never averaged points like this. 1006 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 4: No, no, no, this is because the team is better. 1007 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 4: The team is better. Okay, here's your state. What about but. 1008 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 2: Jimmy last year, Jimmy last year with the same team 1009 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 2: was winning game, but not like about twenty three again, 1010 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 2: not like this score thirty three again. 1011 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you give me a full season of brock Purty 1012 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 4: playing the way he played and the way that they 1013 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,439 Speaker 4: and I believe he can play, then sign me up, 1014 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 4: sign me up. 1015 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 3: I'm in. I'm all in. 1016 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Yep. But it's still an if. It's still an if. Yeah, 1017 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm absolutely. 1018 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:31,479 Speaker 4: With Asistency is the key in the NFL. One year 1019 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 4: does not make a consistent starter. 1020 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 2: No, But at the same time, like we don't we 1021 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 2: don't play with a fair deck if you will. For instance, 1022 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 2: here's what I mean by that. Sure, no, forget my homes, 1023 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 2: forget Burrow, forget Allen, forget stuff like that. But I 1024 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 2: could argue that Purty has already gone on a run 1025 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 2: that many quarterbacks we prop up have never done. 1026 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 3: We get that. 1027 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 2: But Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert never did that. No, Deshaun 1028 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 2: Watson never did that. 1029 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 3: Nobody did leave the league in passing. 1030 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Okay, but I thought this was about winning, 1031 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 2: and I know I lost her right. 1032 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 4: Yea Lawrence passing with nobody on his team in terms 1033 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 4: of de John Watson. 1034 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, I get that. So uh, Dak Prescott, 1035 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott has never done that. No, No, he hasn't. 1036 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 2: It's interesting. It's interesting. I mean, there's a very very 1037 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 2: simple question that I feel like we'll get all kinds 1038 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 2: of answers if you just go off to people and 1039 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 2: be like, hey, do you think brock Perty is good? 1040 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 2: And if you don't, what word. 1041 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 5: Would you use? 1042 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 2: I think he's pretty good. Well I knew what word 1043 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 2: you'd use. Good lord, all right, I'm glad you brought 1044 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 2: up Garoppolo because I got a question there as well. 1045 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 2: But here we go Steve de Seger, Come on, man, 1046 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 2: let's come on in here. No system quarterback here? What's 1047 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 2: this talent? There? 1048 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 3: He goes superstar. 1049 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 7: Most NFL veterans do report to training camp on Tuesday. 1050 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 7: Raiders quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo passed his physical, so he will 1051 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 7: not start camp on the pupp list after his broken 1052 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 7: foot last season. The Raiders unsigned running back Josh Jacobs 1053 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 7: could skip the preseason. He's currently subject to the franchise tag. 1054 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 7: Ravens wide receiver Rashad Bateman was reinstated from the did 1055 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 7: not report list. Bears wide receiver Chase Claypool was placed 1056 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 7: on the pup list physically unable to perform. Cincinnati plays 1057 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 7: tackle Lyle Collins on the pup list. Denver says running 1058 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 7: back Javonte Williams will not start camp on the pup list. 1059 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 7: Vikings rookie wide receiver Jordan Addison reported to camp today. 1060 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 7: Denny Hamlin took the NASCAR Race at Pocono, his seventh 1061 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 7: Cup Series victory there and fiftieth win of his career. 1062 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 7: American Brian Harmon won the open by six strokes. John 1063 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 7: rom tied for second place, as did Jason Day. Rory 1064 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 7: McElroy tied for Brooks Koepka shot seventy five in the 1065 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 7: rain and fell to a tie for sixty fourth place. 1066 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 2: I was thinking, how. 1067 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 7: Does this compare to a payout he got this weekend 1068 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 7: in Liverpool, to maybe a live golf weekend. Brooks Pepka 1069 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 7: earned thirty nine thousand dollars this weekend for sixty fourth place. 1070 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 7: The answer is, there is no sixty fourth place in 1071 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 7: live golf. It's a shorter field and no cut. And besides, 1072 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 7: if you finish dead last at a live tournament, you 1073 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 7: still get over one hundred thousand dollars. At the Women's 1074 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 7: World Cup FS one, we'll have a triple header starting 1075 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 7: late tonight two am Eastern Time, Italy against Argentina. Then 1076 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 7: it's Germany against Morocco. Then at seven am Eastern Brazil 1077 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 7: Panama on FS one. In Major League Baseball, the Sunday 1078 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 7: night game is in Boston and the Red Sox now 1079 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 7: leads six to one over the Mets. In the top 1080 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 7: of the eighth, Rafael Devers with a solo homer. He 1081 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 7: has twenty four home runs and seventy four RBIs Angels 1082 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 7: got a thirty sixth homer the season from show Aotani 1083 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 7: that leads the majors. Halo's beat Pittsburgh seven to five. 1084 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 7: They are four games back of the Blue Jays for 1085 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 7: the final AL wildcard spot. Toronto one at Seattle, four 1086 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 7: to three, Houston a three to two winner at Oakland. 1087 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 7: Houston's the second place team in the AO West, three 1088 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,439 Speaker 7: games behind first place Texas, which ripped the Dodgers eight 1089 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 7: to four. Detroit over San Diego three to one. Yankees 1090 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 7: beat Kansas City eight to five. Anthony Rizzo had four hits. 1091 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 7: Washington and Atlanta with wins. Reds won their fifth in 1092 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 7: a row. Baltimore a winner at Tampa Bay five to three, 1093 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 7: the save to Felix Boutista, his twenty eighth. His ZRA 1094 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 7: this year is zero point nine to two. And the 1095 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 7: Orioles with a record of sixty one and thirty eight 1096 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 7: our first place in the AL East, now two games 1097 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 7: over the Rays. And Scott Rowland was inducted into the 1098 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 7: Hall of Fame as a Saint Louis Cardinal today. He 1099 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 7: played his first six and a half years in the 1100 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 7: majors for the Phillies, who drafted him. Fred McGriff's Hall 1101 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 7: of Fame plaque today did not feature any team's logo. 1102 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 7: He played for six different teams, none for more than 1103 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 7: four full seasons. 1104 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 2: Back to you, Fred looks could by the way too, man, 1105 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 2: the years are being kind of friends. 1106 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 7: All that Tolemansky workout on the VHS teams. 1107 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 2: It really is defense wins championships, There's no question about it. 1108 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 2: But Steve, let's all spotlight something you said about Brooks 1109 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 2: Kepka for a second. I wonder what you guys think. 1110 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 2: You said he made thirty nine thousand dollars for his 1111 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,040 Speaker 2: trip to the Open champions shop rounds of goal. Do 1112 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 2: you believe that he's spent more or less than that 1113 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 2: number on simply the process of going to the Open 1114 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:38,640 Speaker 2: Championship This weear. 1115 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,160 Speaker 7: And dinner and yeah more, don't you dammigations? Sure right. 1116 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 2: He probably had a private plane, He probably had a 1117 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 2: private home. He probably had a chef. He probably missed 1118 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 2: that the other So yeah, Brooks probably lost money this weekend. 1119 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,439 Speaker 7: And spent the whole day in the rain today. So yeah, 1120 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,280 Speaker 7: great weekend altogether at Liverpool. 1121 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 2: Good thing has got all that live money that he 1122 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 2: could put away or else. I feel terrible for the 1123 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 2: guy live. 1124 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 7: By the way, the winner got three million. Every live 1125 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 7: goal champion gets four million for just a regular tournaments 1126 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 7: anywhere Mexico, London. 1127 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 2: The basic one. Yeah, I doesn't that they all made. 1128 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 2: They all made a little bit less than that. That 1129 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 2: lady with the power ball over there at the liquor store, 1130 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 2: go though, did y'all see that video? Man oh man, 1131 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 2: you'll see. 1132 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 7: That could not contain herself. 1133 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 2: But you could put it that way. She was also terrified. 1134 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:36,919 Speaker 3: I would have never shown up there. 1135 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 7: No, I would terrify. 1136 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 2: Her, like can you imagine? Right, Like let's say I 1137 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 2: don't know what the woman does for a living, but 1138 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 2: let's say she's a thing. 1139 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 7: Now that's the answer. 1140 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well right, nothing, she's I hope she got the 1141 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 2: wherewithal the collar bass and let her know, not coming 1142 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 2: intom all. 1143 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 4: But I wouldn't even call it, like if you just 1144 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 4: I wouldn't even call I'm good, just be like you know, 1145 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, figure it out. 1146 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 2: But it was it was we all think of this 1147 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 2: as such like the dream. Everybody right, you won the lottery. 1148 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 2: This woman, though, she it was as if she wasn't sure. 1149 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 2: I didn't get all the context, but she wasn't sure 1150 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 2: if the ticket was what she thought it was, so 1151 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 2: she went back to the convenience store to check, and 1152 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 2: indeed it was, and then she starts crying. And now 1153 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,760 Speaker 2: there's twenty five cameras who hit the lights and turn it. 1154 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,679 Speaker 2: Can you imagine for any of us regular peeps, how 1155 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:43,519 Speaker 2: terrifying that would be one point eight billion. Okay, put 1156 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 2: your face on TV. Here we go. 1157 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,799 Speaker 4: It might roughly be five hundred and forty six million. 1158 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends, depends, depends on if you take the 1159 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:53,679 Speaker 2: lump something. 1160 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 4: Nobody at this point nobody's taking the lumps. I mean, 1161 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:04,840 Speaker 4: nobody's taking the twenty years thirty is thirty years thirty, right, 1162 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,040 Speaker 4: it was twenty I thought it was twenty. But nobody's 1163 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,120 Speaker 4: doing that to give me my money, man, figure it out. 1164 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you get less. 1165 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:17,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can also go broke without really Yes, 1166 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 4: you you want to love because you well you're not 1167 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 4: getting you know, what is that broke? But listen, what 1168 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 4: I don't wrong? 1169 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 7: Yea invest in a movie, invest in a restaurant that'll 1170 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:29,760 Speaker 7: take care of a half of it right away. 1171 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,280 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. But we act like 1172 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,280 Speaker 2: at that number one billion, We act like the one 1173 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 2: check that you'd get every twenty years. We could live 1174 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 2: on one of those. 1175 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that that doesn't happen because you know that 1176 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 4: check is coming again, so you overspend. 1177 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 5: But this becomes brewsters millions, my man life. 1178 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,719 Speaker 4: But if you okay, say you get twenty million dollars 1179 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,080 Speaker 4: a year and you buy a fifteen million dollar home, 1180 01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,800 Speaker 4: I think it'd be thirty. I think you get thirty 1181 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,760 Speaker 4: min You buy a fifteen million dollar home, you buy 1182 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,280 Speaker 4: two million in cars, you buy your mom a two 1183 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 4: million dollar house. You buy that thirty million dollars risk 1184 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,640 Speaker 4: it's gonna grow right. In fact, you get it every January. 1185 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 4: First it's June, you've spent twenty seven million dollars, and 1186 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 4: you get you have to live the right like, so 1187 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 4: you get yourself in this situations. 1188 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 2: But I'm pretty supposing that you wouldn't be a massive buffoon. 1189 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,679 Speaker 2: Have you seen the stories? 1190 01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 4: Have you seen the there everyone is as a massive before? 1191 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 2: Who the hell would get a check for thirty million 1192 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 2: and be like, so I think I should spend it 1193 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 2: by tomorrow. 1194 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 4: When you're not used to having done it, when you're 1195 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 4: not used to having money. 1196 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 7: This relates discords es made, this this is real. 1197 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,760 Speaker 4: But who's you can look at you can look at 1198 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 4: one hundred million dollar athletes and be like, how do 1199 01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 4: they have zero dollars? Because when you're not, you to 1200 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,760 Speaker 4: getting money and hangs on and family that you have 1201 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 4: for when fall come in, you lose your mind. 1202 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 2: But couldn't I argue then that you could? You could 1203 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 2: spend the lump sum something like. The cool thing about 1204 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,679 Speaker 2: thirty a year is if I blow this, I got 1205 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,719 Speaker 2: another thirty coming next year. 1206 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 5: I'd have to make the same mistake twenty times. 1207 01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:31,120 Speaker 4: Nah, give me mine, I'm no, I hear you, I 1208 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 4: know it, I feel you. 1209 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 2: The NFL, that's what you do. 1210 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 3: Put it. 1211 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,280 Speaker 2: You're not a buffoon. I know you would have called 1212 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 2: Dan Snyder and been like, that's mine. 1213 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 3: Get in on that. 1214 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 7: Even the seller you know gets paced like up to 1215 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,240 Speaker 7: a million in the retailer. 1216 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah yeah, like a like a real estate agent. 1217 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, exactly, all right, could talk uh live ty 1218 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 2: Rack dot Com Studios, Garoppolo. Let's go there next, Mark 1219 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,600 Speaker 2: from Salam Fox Sports Radio. Okay, these here are the 1220 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 2: tire Reck dot Com Studios, Wizard and Salaam Fox Sports Radio. 1221 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,800 Speaker 2: Glad you're with us on this Sunday night. So you've 1222 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 2: heard to Segre say it a couple of times. Garoppolo 1223 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 2: past his physical Uh, that's big news for him. But 1224 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,799 Speaker 2: you have also placed the Las Vegas Raiders very high 1225 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:31,599 Speaker 2: on the Caleb Williams hotline, if you will, so, here 1226 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 2: we go. Garoppolo's gonna play, Josh Jacobs might not. How 1227 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,960 Speaker 2: do you think that this is going to go? Fill 1228 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 2: in the blank. The Raiders will finish the AFC West 1229 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 2: in blank place, in fourth place. 1230 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:52,640 Speaker 4: I agree with you, They're not one of those teams 1231 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 4: that can't have a dynamic running game. 1232 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,360 Speaker 3: They need the running game. 1233 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 4: It takes the pressure off whoever's playing quarterback and allows 1234 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:11,000 Speaker 4: DeVante Adams to be special. Without the running game, they're 1235 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,759 Speaker 4: just gonna put a safety over the top, Sir, I say. 1236 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 2: A new quarterback this year. Obviously, they went six and 1237 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 2: eleven with that running game last year, so I guess 1238 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 2: I mean this hearkens back to the conversation that we 1239 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 2: had off the top of the show, which is I'm 1240 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 2: not in disagreement with you so much as to say 1241 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 2: I understand why NFL teams approach it the way that 1242 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:40,120 Speaker 2: they do, because maybe the Raiders would have been three 1243 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,439 Speaker 2: and fourteen without Josh Jacobs, but they were six and 1244 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:47,759 Speaker 2: eleven with him, which amounts to essentially the same place. 1245 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,599 Speaker 2: And in fact, you could argue, and I bet most 1246 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 2: general managers would. If you're going to stink and miss 1247 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 2: the playoffs, do it in epic fashion. 1248 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,160 Speaker 5: Get me, Caleb Williams. 1249 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 2: Right, I want you would. Everybody would rather win three 1250 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,240 Speaker 2: games than than six this year. 1251 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 4: Yes, yes you would. So if that's the play then 1252 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,519 Speaker 4: of course you don't sign Josh Jacobs and you just 1253 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 4: go out there and be the Raiders. They're in a 1254 01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 4: tough division. No one expects them to win, come in second, 1255 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 4: or make the playoffs in that division. 1256 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:32,800 Speaker 2: Except for Raider fans. Yeah, right, well yes, and they 1257 01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 2: expect it every year. Yes they do. They're like cowboy fans. Yes, 1258 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 2: they are not very realistic. That was a nice way 1259 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:43,800 Speaker 2: to say it. That was a very nice way to 1260 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 2: say it. The whole thing is going to be a 1261 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:50,920 Speaker 2: very interesting sort of reality. I can't wait to see 1262 01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,360 Speaker 2: what Garoppolo looks like as a starter for the first 1263 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:58,120 Speaker 2: time away from Kyle Shanahan. I think that that's going 1264 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 2: to be very interesting. I think it's going to be 1265 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 2: fascinating to watch what the running backs in this division 1266 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 2: and beyond do and we'll get to it coming up 1267 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 2: here at the top of the hour. But one of 1268 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 2: the other running backs in the division organized a big 1269 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 2: old thing with all of the running backs that apparently 1270 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,639 Speaker 2: happen at some point earlier this week. That other running 1271 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 2: back was Austin Eckler, and he is sort of parenthetically 1272 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:27,760 Speaker 2: involved in this conversation as well. But look, I know 1273 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,240 Speaker 2: from you also know the way these things usually play out. 1274 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:36,040 Speaker 2: The holdout is fine until you're actually losing money. And 1275 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,600 Speaker 2: because Barkley and Jacobs, because these guys are on a 1276 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 2: franchise tag, they're not really going to lose anything until 1277 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:48,240 Speaker 2: we get much later in this process. And usually the 1278 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 2: player blinks. I know Barkley has been outspoken that he's 1279 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 2: not going to blink. I sort of want to believe him. 1280 01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,360 Speaker 2: But Josh Jacobs, for as good as he's been, he's 1281 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 2: not say Kwon Barkley, and I have a hard time 1282 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 2: believing he's going to do anything other than eventually drop 1283 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,599 Speaker 2: his shoulders and show up and play for ten million dollars. 1284 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1285 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 4: I don't think collectively all of the guys are going 1286 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,320 Speaker 4: to sit out. That would be nice and solidarity, but 1287 01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:25,560 Speaker 4: it wouldn't really move the needle. It's not like, oh, 1288 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,320 Speaker 4: you need these four running backs or these three running 1289 01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,160 Speaker 4: backs to be in the league for the league to 1290 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:37,080 Speaker 4: be watchable. So you know, Le'Veon Bell set out, he 1291 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 4: never recovered, was never the same in terms of his 1292 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 4: value or his productivity. So you know what I would 1293 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:55,760 Speaker 4: suggest is you sit out for. 1294 01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 2: What is it? 1295 01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,720 Speaker 3: If you're not on, you can sit all the way 1296 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 3: out to with the eighth game, I. 1297 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 2: Believe, Yeah, yes, it's either six or eight. I think 1298 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,320 Speaker 2: you're right. I think it's I think it's eight now 1299 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:08,679 Speaker 2: because it's seventeen games. 1300 01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:16,160 Speaker 4: Yes, so make your statement. Hope your team goes oh 1301 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:20,519 Speaker 4: to eight and you come in and then you go 1302 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,200 Speaker 4: eight and oh. 1303 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 2: Well, the last time this worked by a running back 1304 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:30,400 Speaker 2: it was EMITTT. Smith. Yes, yep, and the Cowboys blinked 1305 01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 2: and said, here's a check. You can go ahead and 1306 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,280 Speaker 2: fill that thing out and let's move on with our lives. 1307 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:41,240 Speaker 2: But I would just contend that we slowly but surely 1308 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,360 Speaker 2: slipped into this without realizing that this was going to 1309 01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,680 Speaker 2: be the collateral damage that took place. This is a 1310 01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:55,040 Speaker 2: passing league. We all know that now, So you're not 1311 01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 2: going to put huge dollars into a spot that does 1312 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:05,240 Speaker 2: not necessarily support you're passing. Now. I know some running 1313 01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,439 Speaker 2: backs do. That's why Eckler is an interesting guy. And 1314 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,840 Speaker 2: even the guys who block, well, they're involved in the 1315 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,920 Speaker 2: passing game. But that's moving the needle down to things 1316 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 2: that are a little bit less significant than how they 1317 01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:22,680 Speaker 2: run the ball through the hole. You know, and you 1318 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,200 Speaker 2: see it everywhere. We're all focused on Barkley and Jacobs 1319 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,120 Speaker 2: right now. We're not even talking about the fact that 1320 01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook doesn't even play in the NFL. 1321 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 5: The it doesn't even play. 1322 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 2: The Vikings were like. 1323 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're fine, we don't need you. 1324 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 2: And the rest of the league went yeah a moment, 1325 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:40,200 Speaker 2: will we're fine too. 1326 01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,960 Speaker 4: He had some legal issues he needs to take. He 1327 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,479 Speaker 4: got some stuff. He got some stuff. There's no two 1328 01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 4: ways about it. I got you. But you know what 1329 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 1330 01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,559 Speaker 2: If Dalvin Cook's name were justin Jefferson, boy, those legal 1331 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,480 Speaker 2: issues wouldn't be a problem, would they. 1332 01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:05,800 Speaker 4: No, So look, I feel bad for my running back 1333 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:12,439 Speaker 4: brethren because I know how important they are to a team. 1334 01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:18,160 Speaker 4: It's nothing more demoralizing than taking the football and jamming 1335 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:19,839 Speaker 4: it down the throat of an opponent. 1336 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:21,240 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 1337 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:30,200 Speaker 4: It's beautiful science beautiful. So I hate that they're being devalued. 1338 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,640 Speaker 4: But it is a business and this is what it is. 1339 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 2: You know. I'm looking around the league at some of 1340 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,479 Speaker 2: these these the top pay guys right now and ask 1341 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,280 Speaker 2: their teams if they would do it again if somebody 1342 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,600 Speaker 2: gave him an opportunity to do so. You know, McCaffrey, 1343 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,200 Speaker 2: as I said, that's two positions. The answer be yes. 1344 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,519 Speaker 2: But what do you think what's going to happen to 1345 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry after this year? 1346 01:19:56,439 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 4: He might be the yeah, but he is leah and 1347 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:05,400 Speaker 4: rushing this year, somebody gonna pay him? 1348 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,439 Speaker 2: All right? What did the running backs just do about 1349 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 2: all this? We'll have that for you coming up next 1350 01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 1351 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,400 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1352 01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,800 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 1353 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:24,040 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 1354 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:24,800 Speaker 1: listen live. 1355 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,720 Speaker 2: Well five years ago, I don't even know if this 1356 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,200 Speaker 2: sentence would have made sense. But has anything really great 1357 01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 2: ever happened on Zoom? There's a reason I'm asking, and 1358 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,840 Speaker 2: I'll explain in a moment. We're broadcasting live from the 1359 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,000 Speaker 2: TI rag dot com studios tyrag dot com will help 1360 01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,799 Speaker 2: you get there. Unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free roadhazard protection, 1361 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,880 Speaker 2: and over ten thousand recommended installers. Ty rag dot com 1362 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,679 Speaker 2: the way tire buying should be. That's Eve from Slama, 1363 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,680 Speaker 2: Mark Willard, Howdy, how we all doing on a Sunday night. 1364 01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:58,599 Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us here on Fox Sports Sunday. 1365 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,120 Speaker 2: I mean it makes all of us roll our eyes, 1366 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,640 Speaker 2: even though it has become a post pandemic necessity in 1367 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:10,080 Speaker 2: our world. And that is the idea of being on zoom. 1368 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard to stay focused for a long 1369 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,839 Speaker 2: time on Zoom. It's hard to really be inspired on Zoom. 1370 01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:22,000 Speaker 2: But Ephraim, that's where it went down. It has been 1371 01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:27,000 Speaker 2: confirmed that many of the league's running backs took part 1372 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 2: in a Zoom call yesterday to discuss their depressed market 1373 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 2: for all of the players at their position. Let me 1374 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,040 Speaker 2: give you some names. This is a high powered zoom. 1375 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,160 Speaker 2: It was put together originally by Austin Eckler. Nick Chubb 1376 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,880 Speaker 2: was there, say Kwon Barkley was there, Dereck Henry was there, 1377 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:51,639 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey was there, Josh Jacobs was there. So they 1378 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,880 Speaker 2: all got together, and there were certainly more to sit 1379 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,320 Speaker 2: down and talk about it. However, here's the quote from 1380 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb that I think matter quote right now, there's 1381 01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 2: really nothing we can do end quote. I mean there's more, 1382 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:21,080 Speaker 2: but that's essentially what he's getting at. Right now, there's 1383 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 2: really nothing we can do, which is fundamental to the 1384 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:26,360 Speaker 2: whole conversation. 1385 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:31,799 Speaker 5: The NFL is not like quote unquote doing this. 1386 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,479 Speaker 2: Right, you're not suggesting that the league's owners in general 1387 01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:41,400 Speaker 2: managers are like, moaha, guess what we're going to do next. 1388 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:46,439 Speaker 2: We are going to take down the running back position. 1389 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,840 Speaker 2: Evil laugh, Like, No, they're doing it because it can 1390 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:56,439 Speaker 2: because for their bottom line. It makes sense because the 1391 01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:02,040 Speaker 2: unfortunate nature of the position and the way NFL offenses 1392 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:08,520 Speaker 2: have gone, it makes sense for them. 1393 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it does. That's just what the market is saying 1394 01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 4: to you. Teams are winning super Bowls without dynamic running games. Oh, 1395 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:35,120 Speaker 4: they have dynamic quarterbacks. But we can look past that. 1396 01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 4: We're not looking past it. We're not looking past it. 1397 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,280 Speaker 2: But if you're a team and you know you don't 1398 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 2: have one of those guys, but that's how you win, 1399 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,559 Speaker 2: wouldn't you save your ear until you have a shot 1400 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:58,320 Speaker 2: at one of those guys like the Raiders we just 1401 01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:02,519 Speaker 2: talked about as the best example. Why would I break 1402 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,000 Speaker 2: off a bunch of money at Josh Jacobs rather than 1403 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 2: save that money maybe for Caleb Williams. 1404 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you don't have to pay Caleb Williams that money. 1405 01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,720 Speaker 4: If you get Caleb Williams, you don't need to pay 1406 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,120 Speaker 4: him like that for four years or three years. 1407 01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:19,639 Speaker 2: Right. 1408 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,960 Speaker 4: So, yeah, you would want to pair the league leading 1409 01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 4: rusher with a rookie quarterback to make his job easier. 1410 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,800 Speaker 4: That's how you should be thinking about it. That's how 1411 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:39,799 Speaker 4: this should be working. Like, we're going to bring Caleb 1412 01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,640 Speaker 4: in with one of the top receivers, one of the 1413 01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:47,320 Speaker 4: top running backs, We're gonna bolster up our offensive line, 1414 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,400 Speaker 4: and we're going to give him the necessary weapons for 1415 01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,519 Speaker 4: him to do something special from jump. 1416 01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,400 Speaker 2: That to me makes sense. I get that, but I 1417 01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:04,439 Speaker 2: know it also makes sense to you that, Like, there 1418 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 2: becomes a quicker shelf life to all of this, the 1419 01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:14,479 Speaker 2: more of those positions that you try to satisfy. The 1420 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,800 Speaker 2: forty nine ers have the highest paid running back in 1421 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,840 Speaker 2: the game, and they fit the description that you just 1422 01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,440 Speaker 2: laid out there. In fact, they've got two young quarterbacks 1423 01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:29,759 Speaker 2: with very little experience, and it does feel like they've 1424 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,280 Speaker 2: got a star at almost every other position on the 1425 01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:38,519 Speaker 2: football field, on both sides of the ball. But that's 1426 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,800 Speaker 2: gonna come get him now at some point, that's gonna 1427 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 2: The only reason that they're able to do that right 1428 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:49,960 Speaker 2: now is because they're paying their quarterback nine hundred thousand dollars. 1429 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,479 Speaker 2: But now quite some time, they don't have to pay 1430 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,120 Speaker 2: him for a while. But three years from now, if 1431 01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:03,519 Speaker 2: he is actually good, you think that they're gonna go, well, 1432 01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:10,120 Speaker 2: we need sixteen million dollars for running back Kyle. You 1433 01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,400 Speaker 2: know Kyle Shanahan, and you know, damn well, what he's 1434 01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:17,160 Speaker 2: gonna do. He's gonna bring in four udfas and see 1435 01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:17,800 Speaker 2: how's it go. 1436 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1437 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:28,639 Speaker 4: But once again, these are all things that are happening 1438 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 4: down the road. They haven't happened yet. So there's an 1439 01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:39,160 Speaker 4: opportunity for the San Francisco forty nine ers to be 1440 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:43,839 Speaker 4: as good as they possibly can while they're not shelling 1441 01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:52,120 Speaker 4: out forty five million dollars a year four quarterback. That's 1442 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:59,040 Speaker 4: the formula, right you. The Giants did the opposite. They 1443 01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:04,120 Speaker 4: gave them money to the quarterback who's just average and 1444 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,360 Speaker 4: their best player, offensive player, best player on the team. 1445 01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,479 Speaker 4: They don't want to pay him that. That's just crazy 1446 01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,040 Speaker 4: to me. What would you have had them do at quarterback? 1447 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:21,960 Speaker 4: If you were them, I would have let the market 1448 01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,320 Speaker 4: tell us what Daniel Jones was worth. 1449 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I would have. 1450 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:33,040 Speaker 4: If I wouldn't have felt pressured to give him that 1451 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,720 Speaker 4: type of deal. I would have let the market. Now, 1452 01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,519 Speaker 4: if the market bear a that, then I would have 1453 01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:39,800 Speaker 4: matched it. I would ask him, if you want to 1454 01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:44,920 Speaker 4: stay here, we'll match that contract. But I wouldn't. I 1455 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:49,160 Speaker 4: wouldn't have preempted, preemptively gave him that amount of money. 1456 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:50,679 Speaker 3: I would have signed. 1457 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,320 Speaker 4: I would have had a conversation with Daniels like, hey, 1458 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,200 Speaker 4: I think we can we you know, I think you 1459 01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:03,640 Speaker 4: know having Saquon locked in, and I think that benefits 1460 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:04,519 Speaker 4: us in the long run. 1461 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:10,120 Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, I think more often than not, 1462 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:17,439 Speaker 2: when NFL teams have a QB like that, history says 1463 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:23,799 Speaker 2: they bite the bullet. If we're being real, the Raiders 1464 01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:27,360 Speaker 2: have known for seven years that they were not going 1465 01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,040 Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl at the start of the year. 1466 01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 2: I know Raider fans disagree. If we're being real, Cowboy 1467 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:40,160 Speaker 2: fans should know you're probably not going to win a 1468 01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:45,200 Speaker 2: super Bowl with Dak Prescott as your quarterback. That's correct, 1469 01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:51,880 Speaker 2: if we're being real. The Minnesota Vikings know you're not 1470 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:55,680 Speaker 2: winning the super Bowl Kirk Cousins as your quarterback. You 1471 01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:59,120 Speaker 2: can be very good with all of these players, but 1472 01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,000 Speaker 2: you're not winn the super Bow unless something real funky 1473 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,920 Speaker 2: now happens. Because we went over the list and it 1474 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,640 Speaker 2: was just like Brady and then Mahomes, and then Mahomes 1475 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:11,599 Speaker 2: and then Brady Brady and then Brady alone. Peyton Manning 1476 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,360 Speaker 2: threw in a Nick Foles when he beat Brady, right 1477 01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 2: like a weird thing can happen, But it's pretty unlikely. 1478 01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,639 Speaker 2: The Arizona Cardinals are not going to win the super 1479 01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:30,560 Speaker 2: Bowl with Kyler Murray as their quarterback. But what decision 1480 01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:34,519 Speaker 2: did all four of those teams make? They paid him, 1481 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,479 Speaker 2: they broke them off because they because you have to 1482 01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,880 Speaker 2: make because you have to make a choice. And the 1483 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:47,520 Speaker 2: choice is we can either hold out for that dude, 1484 01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,960 Speaker 2: and even if we do, we're probably not going to 1485 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,280 Speaker 2: get him, because a does that guy even exist? And 1486 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,360 Speaker 2: if he does, can we get our hands on him? 1487 01:29:55,200 --> 01:30:00,280 Speaker 2: Or we can at least stay relevant, which is what 1488 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,519 Speaker 2: I think makes these teams do this. It's like, if 1489 01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:09,040 Speaker 2: we've got Dak and we've got Kirk, we could go 1490 01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:14,840 Speaker 2: twelve and five. We might go nine to eight, but 1491 01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:19,600 Speaker 2: we've probably got like a sixty chance to make the playoffs. 1492 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,920 Speaker 2: We'll make some money, will be relevant, will be a 1493 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:27,160 Speaker 2: part of this show, and if something totally whack a 1494 01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,559 Speaker 2: doodle happens, maybe the sun is going to shine on 1495 01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:34,400 Speaker 2: our butt. And I think that that's what they choose 1496 01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:42,760 Speaker 2: rather than right, Let's let's go all in on rebooting 1497 01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:46,160 Speaker 2: at the quarterback position every four years until we get 1498 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,080 Speaker 2: it right, which is what the Bears have been doing 1499 01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:52,040 Speaker 2: since you and I were born. It's a good point. 1500 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:53,960 Speaker 2: It's a good point. 1501 01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:54,639 Speaker 5: So I get it. 1502 01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,280 Speaker 2: I get that's my answer. I don't think. I don't 1503 01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,840 Speaker 2: want to pay forty six million dollars in twenty twenty 1504 01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:03,720 Speaker 2: six for Daniel Jones. I think that's ludicrous, but I 1505 01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:04,519 Speaker 2: get why they did it. 1506 01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:14,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would. I would steer to signing our best player. 1507 01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:18,960 Speaker 4: That's just me, though. No, I you're not crazy, Like 1508 01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,639 Speaker 4: I'm like, what's the point if you're If you don't 1509 01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:26,760 Speaker 4: want to pay your best player and one of the 1510 01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,720 Speaker 4: top guys in the entire league. Then you just out 1511 01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:37,320 Speaker 4: here wasting time, wasting what do you think they're gonna 1512 01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:43,080 Speaker 4: do this? This conversation is not over yet. They did 1513 01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:47,719 Speaker 4: not come to a deal. Right, he has not signed 1514 01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:53,559 Speaker 4: this franchise tender. How do you think this is gonna 1515 01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:57,599 Speaker 4: play out long and hard? Hm? 1516 01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,759 Speaker 2: Hm? You think he's skipping a season? 1517 01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:06,920 Speaker 4: I think he'll miss eight games. I think he'll miss 1518 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 4: eight games. Man, I'm trying to I think it will 1519 01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:15,519 Speaker 4: how much? 1520 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:20,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? And I look, Saquan was an early pick, so yeah, 1521 01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:25,320 Speaker 2: the second time draft. Yeah. Sometimes I look at NFL players, right, 1522 01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,360 Speaker 2: we know their financial structure is mats. 1523 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,559 Speaker 3: But he's made some money. He's made He's. 1524 01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,400 Speaker 2: Made almost forty he's made almost forty million dollars, endorsements, 1525 01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,920 Speaker 2: all of the enemies. Yes, so more, I'm just on field. 1526 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:40,320 Speaker 2: He's at thirty eight point six yep. So yes, this 1527 01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:48,080 Speaker 2: is a fifty million dollar player already. But sure he 1528 01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:53,120 Speaker 2: also knows he's got to maximize now because he's twenty 1529 01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:57,760 Speaker 2: six and so the next time he's up for a contract. Yeah, 1530 01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:01,559 Speaker 2: you can't hip up these three years. Oh right, If you. 1531 01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,240 Speaker 4: Sit out eight games, that's let's wear and tear. That 1532 01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:09,600 Speaker 4: benefits you, Yeah, that benefits you. Well, I have to 1533 01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,880 Speaker 4: start thinking about it like that. 1534 01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,840 Speaker 2: That's where it gets to a spot where I can 1535 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,280 Speaker 2: understand the negotiating. If I just think about this as 1536 01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:22,040 Speaker 2: a business, I understand what Saquon's doing. I understand what 1537 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:29,720 Speaker 2: the Giants are doing. However, who loses is everybody? All 1538 01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:34,679 Speaker 2: the Giants lose, Saquon loses, the fans lose, the NFL loses. 1539 01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:39,200 Speaker 2: And that's It's those particular situations where maybe there could 1540 01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:42,599 Speaker 2: be some sort of a conversation to happen somewhere along 1541 01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:46,719 Speaker 2: the line over how how this all works. 1542 01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, because nobody wants to see that without those guys 1543 01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:53,640 Speaker 4: in the backfield. 1544 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want your stars on the field. 1545 01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,080 Speaker 4: You want to tune in and watch a team at 1546 01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,439 Speaker 4: its best or as close to its best as it 1547 01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:09,600 Speaker 4: can get. 1548 01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, man. And you know, now the whole 1549 01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,519 Speaker 2: story around Saquon for the next month is going to be, 1550 01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:19,920 Speaker 2: you know, how far does he fall in your fantasy 1551 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,800 Speaker 2: draft and where can you try to try to nab him, 1552 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,479 Speaker 2: you know, for for some sort of a cheap price, 1553 01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:29,639 Speaker 2: And and that's that's not the conversation. And think about 1554 01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,960 Speaker 2: how many running backs where that's the case Jacobs and 1555 01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:37,599 Speaker 2: Dalvin and on down the list. All right, so there's 1556 01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,960 Speaker 2: more on this coming up next, no doubt. Also though, 1557 01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,680 Speaker 2: coming up next, Ephrom the world may not know what 1558 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:47,479 Speaker 2: I know that you are a big soccer guy, So 1559 01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:49,560 Speaker 2: I got something to throw at you now that the 1560 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,559 Speaker 2: Women's World Cup is underway. That's e from Salama Mark 1561 01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,920 Speaker 2: whether this is Fox Sports Radio? He from I was 1562 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:03,880 Speaker 2: looking at it. We're live inthetirack dot com studios. 1563 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:08,120 Speaker 8: Are you thinking about it a little bit about five 1564 01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:14,599 Speaker 8: six weeks away? I'm at five o'clock Pacific time Action 1565 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,599 Speaker 8: on Sunday, September tenth. 1566 01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:22,719 Speaker 4: I'm not getting too pumped up. Man. 1567 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:21,160 Speaker 1: You know. 1568 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,160 Speaker 2: Who's gonna be playing right in the middle of our show, 1569 01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:35,639 Speaker 2: The New York foot Ball Giants, right in the middle 1570 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:44,240 Speaker 2: of the dang show against them cowboys. That's gonna be good. 1571 01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,320 Speaker 5: Tony Pollard, Sakwon Barkley. 1572 01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:49,759 Speaker 2: I'll put the over under it one and a half 1573 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,840 Speaker 2: in terms of how many of them are playing. What 1574 01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:52,519 Speaker 2: are you betting? 1575 01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:00,920 Speaker 3: Uh? 1576 01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:07,680 Speaker 4: Under right? It does feel that way one. I'll put 1577 01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:11,320 Speaker 4: it at one. Put it at one, well, that's two. 1578 01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:14,320 Speaker 4: We I mean Tony Pollard he signed it. He's playing 1579 01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:18,240 Speaker 4: right there, unless he gets hurt. Unless he gets hurt, 1580 01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:25,799 Speaker 4: Tony's in. You think Sakwan's gonna miss that game? Yep, Yeah, 1581 01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,040 Speaker 4: you're probably right. You're probably right. 1582 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,599 Speaker 2: We're gonna come on right after watching Tua go up 1583 01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:36,720 Speaker 2: against Justin Herbert at SOFI. We're gonna come on right 1584 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:42,840 Speaker 2: after Jalen Hurts goes up against Mac Jones Foxborough. We're 1585 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:46,200 Speaker 2: gonna come on right after Garoppolo goes back to Denver 1586 01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,280 Speaker 2: for the first time since he ran out the back 1587 01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:52,519 Speaker 2: of the damn end zone. We're gonna come on right 1588 01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:58,080 Speaker 2: after Jordan Love tries to take Soldier Field. We're gonna 1589 01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:03,519 Speaker 2: come on right after Matt Stafford and Cooper Cup try 1590 01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:07,680 Speaker 2: to re establish themselves against the division rival in Seattle. 1591 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:09,800 Speaker 2: And that's not to mention any of the stuff that's 1592 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:14,479 Speaker 2: going to happen in the early window. It's gonna wait, 1593 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:22,280 Speaker 2: right which is you know that clouds first start there 1594 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:27,320 Speaker 2: in your old in your old city, Derek Carr in 1595 01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:32,880 Speaker 2: a Saints uniform, Tampa Bay with a new quarterback. Who's 1596 01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:36,760 Speaker 2: it going to be? All of that? All of that, 1597 01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,400 Speaker 2: and uh and a lot more right there in week 1598 01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:43,599 Speaker 2: one and then we'll also be previewing what's gonna happen. 1599 01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:47,320 Speaker 2: The very next night in New York, Josh Allen visits 1600 01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:55,920 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. M oh and you know, you know something 1601 01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,320 Speaker 2: I like and this is this is this is week one. 1602 01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:03,000 Speaker 2: You know they've been doing that kind of JANKI like 1603 01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,479 Speaker 2: two Monday night thing week one. Yep, don't do that. 1604 01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:12,439 Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't do that stuff. That's stupid. Don't 1605 01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,960 Speaker 2: do that. So this year they're not doing that. The 1606 01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:20,360 Speaker 2: games alls, they overlap West Coast time. By the time 1607 01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:22,439 Speaker 2: you get home from work, you're in the third quarter 1608 01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,120 Speaker 2: of that. For like the stop don't do that. That's 1609 01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:30,920 Speaker 2: that's that's messy. This is much better. Bills Jets five 1610 01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:37,400 Speaker 2: point fifteen Pacific, eight fifteen Eastern. Let's roll, this is playball. 1611 01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:43,320 Speaker 2: Let's go. Hey man, uh, you need to tell me 1612 01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:48,360 Speaker 2: about who's young and who's up and coming for the 1613 01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:57,960 Speaker 2: U s w n T because I get excited for 1614 01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,240 Speaker 2: the for the for the Women's World Cup, because this 1615 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,320 Speaker 2: is where America's actually got a chance to win. Well 1616 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:05,040 Speaker 2: we do win. 1617 01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:08,400 Speaker 3: We're okay, right, champions going for. 1618 01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,639 Speaker 2: Four, you know what I mean, the Women's World Cup, 1619 01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,639 Speaker 2: Like we can win this thing, and this is where 1620 01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,200 Speaker 2: that chance I believe that we will win actually works. 1621 01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,800 Speaker 2: But I'm just gonna call it what it was against 1622 01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:26,439 Speaker 2: Vietnam that was uninspired, like nothing that was you know, 1623 01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,760 Speaker 2: come on, man, you can tell me that you get 1624 01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:32,559 Speaker 2: up for it. I know, But I guess my question 1625 01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:36,280 Speaker 2: is this, Why are the lead players for this team 1626 01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,640 Speaker 2: the same players that it feels like have been the 1627 01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,920 Speaker 2: lead players for the last eight World Cups? You know 1628 01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:45,439 Speaker 2: what I mean? So listen, I don't follow it those 1629 01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,120 Speaker 2: to the same level you do. I'm gonna admit that 1630 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:51,840 Speaker 2: right now. Tell me what I don't know? Why am 1631 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:55,360 Speaker 2: I still hearing about Alex Morgan and Megan Rappino. 1632 01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,760 Speaker 3: Because their brands? 1633 01:39:58,520 --> 01:39:58,760 Speaker 2: Right? 1634 01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:02,639 Speaker 5: I understand that, But I mean, it's making forty? 1635 01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:05,320 Speaker 2: Is she forty? 1636 01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:06,639 Speaker 3: First of all? Slow down? 1637 01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:07,160 Speaker 2: Okay? 1638 01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:09,559 Speaker 3: Is she slow down? 1639 01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,680 Speaker 2: Is she? I'm asking you, I don't know. 1640 01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,960 Speaker 4: I don't know her eight eight, she's thirty eight. I'm 1641 01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:17,600 Speaker 4: not gonna put the woman's age out there like that. 1642 01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:21,160 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be that guy. Okay, what are you doing? 1643 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,680 Speaker 2: She's all right, she does. It's out there. Alex is 1644 01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:32,439 Speaker 2: thirty four. You know, they're they're all time grades but 1645 01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:35,920 Speaker 2: this is soccer. This is soccer. Man, Like, who's twenty 1646 01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:39,160 Speaker 2: two and flying around the field. That's what I want 1647 01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:39,400 Speaker 2: to know. 1648 01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:47,919 Speaker 4: Sophia Smith. Okay, raw business, raw business. 1649 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:50,320 Speaker 2: They got what it needs, but they. 1650 01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,599 Speaker 3: Need oh yeah yeah yeah you sure? 1651 01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah seriously three and nothing is uninspired. Man, they should 1652 01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:06,320 Speaker 4: have won that by ten. Trinity Rodman. I mean, the 1653 01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:11,520 Speaker 4: thing you realize when you watch soccer is it's always 1654 01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:18,280 Speaker 4: a combination of old and young. Are older, are veteran, 1655 01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:25,360 Speaker 4: seasoned and young? Right, I think back when Alex Morgan 1656 01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,840 Speaker 4: was that young that sees that you know, that up 1657 01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:31,800 Speaker 4: and coming one, right, and you had the Hope Solos 1658 01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:34,280 Speaker 4: out there, and you're like so all of the Brandy 1659 01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:43,320 Speaker 4: chastains and you know, like American women's soccer is light 1660 01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:49,080 Speaker 4: years ahead of the men of course, and shout out 1661 01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:53,120 Speaker 4: to them for winning equal pay and because it's it's true, 1662 01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:56,400 Speaker 4: more people watch them than they do the men's team 1663 01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:01,439 Speaker 4: because we get to watch them younger. Yes, they have 1664 01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:05,200 Speaker 4: more matches, and we get to watch them win. I mean, 1665 01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,839 Speaker 4: it's a it's a real thing. Like all our best 1666 01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:11,640 Speaker 4: male athletes are playing in the NFL, in the NBA, 1667 01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:16,519 Speaker 4: that's where they are. I said all the time, you 1668 01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,599 Speaker 4: put Lebron James on a pitch. If Lebron James grew 1669 01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,719 Speaker 4: up in the country with there was soccer is the sport. 1670 01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:27,400 Speaker 4: If you put that six ' nine freight train who 1671 01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:33,880 Speaker 4: probably when he was a young man, ran H four 1672 01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:42,760 Speaker 4: four at six ' nine, then you'd have him. Bape's 1673 01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:43,360 Speaker 4: what it be. 1674 01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:45,240 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 1675 01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:47,679 Speaker 4: So I just think, think of all our best athletes, 1676 01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:50,759 Speaker 4: the Kobe Kobe Bryant grew up playing soccer, tremendous soccer player. 1677 01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,719 Speaker 4: Think if he just took that energy and that mama 1678 01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:57,360 Speaker 4: mentality onto the pitch and not the court. Come on, 1679 01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:02,280 Speaker 4: but that's not what we're that's right. We allocate our 1680 01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:07,160 Speaker 4: best men's athletes to basketball football. 1681 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,439 Speaker 2: That is what it is. Yeah, I get it. I 1682 01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:17,360 Speaker 2: get it. And we don't care. We don't care as much. 1683 01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:18,280 Speaker 3: We don't. 1684 01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:19,240 Speaker 2: We don't. 1685 01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:20,280 Speaker 3: We don't don't, we don't. 1686 01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,920 Speaker 2: And then that's not that's not some shot at soccer. 1687 01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,599 Speaker 2: That's just like it's life or death in many countries. 1688 01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:32,080 Speaker 2: It is not here, that's all. It's not that here, right, Yeah, 1689 01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:39,920 Speaker 2: exactly exactly, life or death. That describes our interactions with 1690 01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:41,800 Speaker 2: Steve de Seger. I don't know that I could live 1691 01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:45,920 Speaker 2: without them, and so, uh, we should do one more, 1692 01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:49,960 Speaker 2: don't you think I think we should. Let's let's let's 1693 01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:53,400 Speaker 2: get Steve de Seger in here for for what is 1694 01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:54,680 Speaker 2: going to be a true moment. 1695 01:43:58,160 --> 01:43:59,200 Speaker 7: Or there you go. 1696 01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,919 Speaker 5: Hold look, there you are, Hey Way, and there's your music. 1697 01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:06,840 Speaker 2: Come on now, guys, they with that, and then I'm like, 1698 01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:09,160 Speaker 2: this isn't going well. 1699 01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:13,280 Speaker 7: It's a leading union show and expecting the will. Uh 1700 01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:16,160 Speaker 7: just to tell you how things did in the TV 1701 01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:19,519 Speaker 7: ratings with the US opener, and I agree three, not 1702 01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:21,920 Speaker 7: think it could have been easily four or five or more, 1703 01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:25,520 Speaker 7: but more on that in the moment. But just by comparison, 1704 01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:28,400 Speaker 7: the NBA playoffs did well this past year. The TV 1705 01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:32,519 Speaker 7: ratings first two rounds in the national TV Games five 1706 01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:38,120 Speaker 7: point twenty six million, US soccer five excuse me, five 1707 01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:41,759 Speaker 7: point two three million soccer five point two six million 1708 01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:45,720 Speaker 7: on Friday night US Vietnam is therefore one of the 1709 01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:49,640 Speaker 7: top ten audiences all time for Women's World Cup. And 1710 01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:51,920 Speaker 7: this was not a semi or a final. This was 1711 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:57,000 Speaker 7: a first round group play match. And by the way, 1712 01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 7: Bay Area was one of the top markets since they 1713 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:03,280 Speaker 7: certainly there's a Bay Area flavor to this US team. 1714 01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:07,200 Speaker 7: The Americans did win only three nothing against Vietnam, and 1715 01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,600 Speaker 7: that opener there were and they outshot him twenty. 1716 01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,559 Speaker 2: Eight nothing just for the rent, Yeah, they did. 1717 01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,479 Speaker 7: It was a little odd to see an opponent who 1718 01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:16,280 Speaker 7: really didn't have a priority of you know, scoring. 1719 01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:19,760 Speaker 2: The first half of the game. They never even crossed midfield. 1720 01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,559 Speaker 7: That's like, okay, it's like watching a Jets game. 1721 01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:24,759 Speaker 3: Anyway. 1722 01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:26,280 Speaker 2: Earlier in the day in the. 1723 01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:30,719 Speaker 7: World Cup, you had Spain even more so, completely dominate 1724 01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:34,920 Speaker 7: Costa Rica in its opener. They outshot him forty six 1725 01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:37,679 Speaker 7: to one and that was only a three to nothing 1726 01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:43,040 Speaker 7: final for Spain. Meanwhile, at the Women's World Cup FS one, 1727 01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:46,200 Speaker 7: we'll have a triple header starting late tonight Italy against 1728 01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:50,280 Speaker 7: Argentina two am Eastern, then Germany against Morocco, then seven 1729 01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:54,320 Speaker 7: am Eastern Brazil versus Panama on FS one. This morning 1730 01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,800 Speaker 7: our time, Jamaica tied number five ranked France zero zero, 1731 01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,640 Speaker 7: even though France had seventy two percent of the possession. 1732 01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,519 Speaker 7: Number three Sweden needed a goal in the ninetieth minute 1733 01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:06,120 Speaker 7: to win two to one over South Africa, and Netherlands 1734 01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:09,920 Speaker 7: posted just a one nothing victory against Portugal thanks to 1735 01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,120 Speaker 7: an early goal. Portugal had never been in a World 1736 01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:15,639 Speaker 7: Cup before. The Americans next game is Wednesday night against 1737 01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:19,280 Speaker 7: Netherlands on Fox TV. This was the World Cup final 1738 01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:22,120 Speaker 7: four years ago, and in fact these two played in 1739 01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:25,200 Speaker 7: the Olympics two years ago in Tokyo in a quarterfinal 1740 01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:27,559 Speaker 7: and it went to penalties that the US won. The 1741 01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,320 Speaker 7: Americans are playing all three of their group matches in 1742 01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:33,519 Speaker 7: New Zealand. The NBA reportedly approved the sale of the 1743 01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,120 Speaker 7: Charlotte Hornets, although it won't be official for at least 1744 01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:39,479 Speaker 7: another week. Michael Jordan will remain as a minority owner 1745 01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:41,519 Speaker 7: of the Hornets, who have missed the playoffs the past 1746 01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:45,879 Speaker 7: seven years. American Brian Harmon won the Open by six strokes. 1747 01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:49,240 Speaker 7: John Rahm tied for second place. Harmon, from the University 1748 01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:52,439 Speaker 7: of Georgia, had the most top ten finishes without a 1749 01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:54,880 Speaker 7: win on the tour since the start of the twenty 1750 01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:58,800 Speaker 7: seventeen to eighteen season. Danny Hamlin took the NASCAR race 1751 01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:02,760 Speaker 7: at Pocono. Most NFL veterans report to training camp on Tuesday. 1752 01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:07,040 Speaker 7: The Raiders quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo passed his physical Ravens wide 1753 01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:10,559 Speaker 7: receiver Reshad Bateman was reinstated from the did not report 1754 01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:13,799 Speaker 7: list into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Today, Scott Rowland 1755 01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:17,160 Speaker 7: and Fred McGriff rolling eight goal gloves at third base. 1756 01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:21,000 Speaker 7: McGriff nearly five hundred home runs four ninety three in 1757 01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:23,960 Speaker 7: his long career. Tonight in Boston, the Red Sox beat 1758 01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:27,240 Speaker 7: the Mets six to one. Angels over the Pirates seven 1759 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:30,479 Speaker 7: to five in Anaheim's Shoheyotani with his thirty sixth home 1760 01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:34,200 Speaker 7: run of the season that leads the Major Leagues. Angels 1761 01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,320 Speaker 7: are four games behind the Blue Jays, though for the 1762 01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:39,559 Speaker 7: final AL wildcard spot. Toronto won four to three at 1763 01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:42,200 Speaker 7: Seattle by the way Vladimir Correra Junior, who did win 1764 01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:45,040 Speaker 7: the home run derby homeward again today his third and 1765 01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,720 Speaker 7: four days Houston with a solo homer top of the 1766 01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:50,120 Speaker 7: ninth one at Oakland three to two. The a's record 1767 01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:55,320 Speaker 7: twenty eight and seventy four attendance eleven thousand. Oakland will 1768 01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:59,439 Speaker 7: play at San Francisco Tuesday and Wednesday. Giants have lost 1769 01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:02,240 Speaker 7: five in a row. Now Arizona's lost four straight. Those 1770 01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:04,760 Speaker 7: two are tied for second in the Nlst four, back 1771 01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,439 Speaker 7: of the Dodgers, who lost eight to four. At Texas. 1772 01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:12,200 Speaker 7: The Dodgers do not have any pitching. Emmett Shean was 1773 01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:15,160 Speaker 7: their starting pitcher again today. He was handed a four 1774 01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,479 Speaker 7: to nothing lead on a first inning grand slam by 1775 01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:20,240 Speaker 7: Max Munsey. By the fourth he was trailing eight to four. 1776 01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:24,679 Speaker 7: Ten inning wins for Philadelphia and Miami Minnesota one in twelve. 1777 01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:29,120 Speaker 2: Back to you, you can take solid, Steve. I know 1778 01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:30,519 Speaker 2: the Dodgers don't have any. 1779 01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:32,519 Speaker 5: Pitching, neither does anybody else. 1780 01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,599 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've noticed this, and I've had 1781 01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:40,320 Speaker 2: JMS tell me this year, everybody's looking for the same thing, 1782 01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:44,479 Speaker 2: which makes it impossible to get You've got no All 1783 01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,000 Speaker 2: the teams think they're still in it, and they're all 1784 01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,679 Speaker 2: looking for the exact same thing. Killer's more starting pitching. 1785 01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:53,160 Speaker 2: Good luck, and if you do get one, you're gonna 1786 01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:54,360 Speaker 2: have to pay through the notes. 1787 01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:57,120 Speaker 7: Real teams like the Bruthes do have some pitching, but 1788 01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:59,120 Speaker 7: you're right, the dead well is in their leeway. 1789 01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:02,720 Speaker 2: The Braves do, and I would imagine the Orioles and 1790 01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:05,720 Speaker 2: Rays due though I could not name any of them, 1791 01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,680 Speaker 2: but they win all of their baseball games, so they 1792 01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:11,880 Speaker 2: must have somebody good correct, Oh goodness, gracious? 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Baseball Hall of Fame Induction day. 1810 01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:14,200 Speaker 2: I've realized the last few when it comes around and 1811 01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,320 Speaker 2: people will go did you watch, And I'm like no, 1812 01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:22,640 Speaker 2: And there's like a little bite to my no and 1813 01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:27,880 Speaker 2: it's just because I don't respect the process anymore. There's 1814 01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:30,639 Speaker 2: too many what ifs, there's too many people holding things 1815 01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:36,000 Speaker 2: against too many different people. I've never been. I'd still 1816 01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:41,519 Speaker 2: love to go someday, but it's a museum that is 1817 01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:47,360 Speaker 2: tainted and misguided in my opinion, and therefore it takes 1818 01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:51,080 Speaker 2: away from all of the people who do end up there. 1819 01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:58,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it doesn't have the same pop as 1820 01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:05,120 Speaker 4: a NFL or the NBA all the fame. I didn't 1821 01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:12,639 Speaker 4: even know it was happening today. So yeah, there's that. Yep, 1822 01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:19,080 Speaker 4: there's that. It's such a cloud hanging over it. It's tough. 1823 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:23,479 Speaker 2: Well, the feel to me. The word that pops to mind, 1824 01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:25,599 Speaker 2: and it's never it's a word that, believe me, if 1825 01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:28,160 Speaker 2: I use it about another human being or an event. 1826 01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,720 Speaker 2: This is not a good thing. But it's exclusionary, and 1827 01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:33,920 Speaker 2: I know that people want the Hall of Fame to 1828 01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,880 Speaker 2: be exclusionary in a way. You can't just let everybody in. 1829 01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,880 Speaker 2: I understand that, but you do need to let the 1830 01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:43,400 Speaker 2: people in who deserve to be in, or else you're 1831 01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:47,599 Speaker 2: playing some sort of political game. You can look at 1832 01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:51,160 Speaker 2: this one of two ways. You can either point to 1833 01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:55,120 Speaker 2: the fact that you really never caught just about anybody 1834 01:51:55,560 --> 01:52:01,840 Speaker 2: red handed with anything. And then secondarily, there's literally zero 1835 01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:05,360 Speaker 2: chance that some of the people who have been inducted 1836 01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:09,639 Speaker 2: in the last ten years were not also juicing. There's 1837 01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:17,000 Speaker 2: zero chance of that. So why from the long standing 1838 01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:20,680 Speaker 2: Rose debate to the current one surrounding the Bonds and 1839 01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:24,439 Speaker 2: Clemens of the world. I just I don't know what 1840 01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:27,000 Speaker 2: the stuffy Hall of Fame thinks it's achieving by keeping 1841 01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:28,800 Speaker 2: them out. And I know it's the voters, not so 1842 01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:32,040 Speaker 2: much the Hall itself, but they're not achieving what they 1843 01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:32,799 Speaker 2: think they're achieving. 1844 01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:35,200 Speaker 3: No, they're not. 1845 01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:42,599 Speaker 4: And it look, baseball has a bunch of unwritten rules. 1846 01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:46,320 Speaker 4: They have a bunch of you know, this is how 1847 01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:50,479 Speaker 4: it's supposed to be, and it kind of sucks the 1848 01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:54,960 Speaker 4: fun and the energy out of the room. Yeah, even 1849 01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:58,479 Speaker 4: for something as pristine as the Hall of Fame induction. 1850 01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:05,080 Speaker 4: So they have a lot of things that they need 1851 01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:09,479 Speaker 4: to really work on to to put some energy around it. Man, 1852 01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,840 Speaker 4: it should be a big deal. It should be tremendous, 1853 01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:14,560 Speaker 4: and it's. 1854 01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:22,880 Speaker 2: Just right right right kick your biggest assets in the shin. 1855 01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:29,920 Speaker 2: That always works. The marketing of Major League Baseball has 1856 01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:33,960 Speaker 2: taken some strides in the last few years, nowhere near enough. 1857 01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:37,439 Speaker 2: At the end of your first year. Discover credit cards 1858 01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:39,680 Speaker 2: automatically double all the cash back you've earned. That's right, 1859 01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:42,639 Speaker 2: everything you've earned doubled. Seriously see terms. Check it out 1860 01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:46,400 Speaker 2: for yourself. Discover dot com slash match It's Wooden Salaam 1861 01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:48,040 Speaker 2: and coming up next. 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And maybe it's not over, and maybe 1882 01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:06,000 Speaker 2: it's not fair, but I'm blaming Damon Lillard and James Harden. 1883 01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:09,560 Speaker 2: I'm blaming them both because everything gets all held up 1884 01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:14,200 Speaker 2: when the stars ask for a trade. Lillard is a 1885 01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,800 Speaker 2: bigger deal right now. Harden is more of an offender 1886 01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:21,680 Speaker 2: because he asks for a trade every six months. It's 1887 01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:24,720 Speaker 2: like it's like his thing. We need to be traded 1888 01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:28,560 Speaker 2: in July or August, and then wherever we get we're 1889 01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,520 Speaker 2: not going to like that place. So we got to 1890 01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:33,880 Speaker 2: get traded again in February and then wait until July 1891 01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:36,840 Speaker 2: so that we can ask to be traded again. Like, 1892 01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:41,040 Speaker 2: let's just spotlight James Harden for a second. When when 1893 01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:44,920 Speaker 2: do the Kyries and the Hardens of the world realize 1894 01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:49,520 Speaker 2: it's not them, it's not the team, it's you. 1895 01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:53,640 Speaker 5: How many different places do you need to be uncomfortable 1896 01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:56,040 Speaker 5: before you go? 1897 01:55:56,280 --> 01:56:03,240 Speaker 2: Huh, common denominator, what's the common denominator me, I'm the denominator. 1898 01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be. I mean, therapists get paid a 1899 01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:12,880 Speaker 4: lot of money to answer that question, right, and that's 1900 01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:20,120 Speaker 4: you know, self reflection. It's very difficult when you are 1901 01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:26,920 Speaker 4: the best in the world at something and you feel 1902 01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:32,280 Speaker 4: that everything revolves around you, and we get a lot 1903 01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:39,800 Speaker 4: of that. In terms of player movement. Now is a 1904 01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:42,640 Speaker 4: I'm anna sign an extension. I don't want to be here, 1905 01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:46,200 Speaker 4: send me somewhere else. Like that's what the narrative is, 1906 01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:49,400 Speaker 4: so anybody can go anywhere at any time. It's no 1907 01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:52,600 Speaker 4: longer you sign you have to be locked in. Teams 1908 01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:54,360 Speaker 4: are willing to I would be like, yoh man, you 1909 01:56:54,480 --> 01:57:01,600 Speaker 4: playing bro. Sorry, it is what it is. At some 1910 01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:07,120 Speaker 4: point it just becomes, you know, more than a distraction 1911 01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:10,520 Speaker 4: becomes silly. 1912 01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:14,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I would play with that idea. If I 1913 01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:16,800 Speaker 2: were the Portland Blazers, I would pay with that. I 1914 01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:18,680 Speaker 2: would play with that idea if I were the Portland 1915 01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:22,000 Speaker 2: Blazers right now. I've said this to you already the 1916 01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:26,320 Speaker 2: last few weeks. I'm not doing it unless it's good 1917 01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:32,120 Speaker 2: for us. You know, the hardened situation is tough man, 1918 01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:38,160 Speaker 2: because you know, he starts his career with Oklahoma City. 1919 01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:45,440 Speaker 2: At the same time, I understand, I understand why he 1920 01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:49,000 Speaker 2: leaves that situation. You know, he's kind of running as 1921 01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:52,600 Speaker 2: a six man. He was averaging sixteen point eight a 1922 01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:55,200 Speaker 2: game when he was twenty two in Oklahoma City. The 1923 01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:58,640 Speaker 2: very next year he becomes a perennial All Star and 1924 01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:01,960 Speaker 2: averages almost ten point it's more per game that equals 1925 01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:05,120 Speaker 2: money for a player. Out of that that I understand. 1926 01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:09,120 Speaker 2: And then you spend about eight years in Houston and 1927 01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:11,160 Speaker 2: come damn close to getting it done. 1928 01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:13,600 Speaker 5: So I get it. 1929 01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:16,920 Speaker 2: And there were three consecutive years of leading the league 1930 01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:20,600 Speaker 2: in scoring. That was all very successful. But from the 1931 01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:25,680 Speaker 2: moment that we got to twenty twenty and it's you know, 1932 01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:29,880 Speaker 2: Houston and then Brooklyn and then now Philly and now 1933 01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:32,880 Speaker 2: we're out again. This is a joke. Now this a 1934 01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:36,280 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man. And I actually was starting 1935 01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:39,320 Speaker 2: to really almost have a newfound respect for the guy 1936 01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:42,680 Speaker 2: because of the way he approached this year. And he's like, 1937 01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:44,000 Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go lead 1938 01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:49,840 Speaker 2: the NBA and assists. It's like, okay, okay, he's understanding 1939 01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,920 Speaker 2: that he's a two and not a one and I 1940 01:58:52,960 --> 01:59:00,560 Speaker 2: was digging it and now he's disgruntled again. It's hard 1941 01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:01,200 Speaker 2: to keep track. 1942 01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:04,840 Speaker 4: Man. If he goes to the Clippers, he's just gonna 1943 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:08,040 Speaker 4: be it there at the Clippers and oh my. 1944 01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:16,200 Speaker 2: Gosh, Harden and Westbrook back together. M Kate ego want 1945 01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:21,760 Speaker 2: to be traded. He's gonna want to go. I mean, 1946 01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:24,960 Speaker 2: as you, as you a Laker fan, you should actually 1947 01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:29,280 Speaker 2: be rooting for this. I hope you please, yes, right, yes, 1948 01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:35,640 Speaker 2: yeah boy? The Clippers, the Clippers, right, and then Lillard. Man, 1949 01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:41,280 Speaker 2: this is turning into the Bush Gore election. Something, something's good, right, 1950 01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:44,120 Speaker 2: Something's gonna happen. And then like eight months later, you're like, 1951 01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:46,400 Speaker 2: I'm bored, Like I am bored out of my mind. 1952 01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:51,840 Speaker 2: Can we please because somebody just do something? All right? Man? 1953 01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:55,080 Speaker 2: As always great talking to you. We're one week closer. Man, 1954 01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:58,160 Speaker 2: we'll do it again next week. Uh for Ephram Salah, 1955 01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:01,000 Speaker 2: Mark Willard, we keep things moving on Fox Sports Radio