WEBVTT - Drive Time: Defensive Combine Notes and Emory Hunt Fixes Dolphins Short Yardage Woes

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<v Speaker 1>What is up Dolphins, and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and on today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>the combine is in the books. We're going to recap

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<v Speaker 1>what happened on the field with the workouts and the

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<v Speaker 1>prospects that jumped off the tape to me on the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive side of the football. Today, plus my friend Emery Hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a UDFA and sleeper Whiz, drops by the

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<v Speaker 1>show and talk about all things Dolphins draft, late round picks,

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<v Speaker 1>possible matches. There from the Baptist Health Studios inside the

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<v Speaker 1>Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye hey guys, So first time back with you here.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't a pre taped interview or talking from the

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<v Speaker 1>floor in Indianapolis. I am back in beautiful South Florida

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you guys about these scouting combined workouts that

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<v Speaker 1>I just finished watching over the weekend. And before I

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<v Speaker 1>get into my defensive notes and then our chat with

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<v Speaker 1>Emery Hunt today, I wanted to just kind of explain

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<v Speaker 1>how I've come to this conclusion that the Dolphins are

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<v Speaker 1>in a really good spot with the thirteenth pick in

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<v Speaker 1>this year's draft. And I say that because well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go into this thing and with the tront Armstead money,

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<v Speaker 1>with what I expect to happen with some type of

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<v Speaker 1>restructures and finagling of the salary cap, the Dolphins are

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<v Speaker 1>going to find a way to be responsibly flexible this

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<v Speaker 1>year in free agency, and I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see them sign a couple of offensive linemen. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to see them pursue a kind of chess

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<v Speaker 1>piece safety aggressively in free agency and try to round

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<v Speaker 1>out some holes that way so they can do what

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<v Speaker 1>they always love to do every year in April and

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<v Speaker 1>be flexible to take the best players available. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the current construction of the roster, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys check out the Lockdown Dolphins podcast this

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<v Speaker 1>week with Kyle Krabs, he and I have been discussing

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<v Speaker 1>this for months now, but he'll cover it very in

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<v Speaker 1>depth for you guys on that program, And we were

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<v Speaker 1>discussing the fact that Miami and his estimation and all

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<v Speaker 1>weigh on this later on in the week, has twelve

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<v Speaker 1>players that would hit the landmarks of quality starter or

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<v Speaker 1>cornerstone franchise piece. He has six in either category. And

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<v Speaker 1>for those that are curious to was in the quality

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<v Speaker 1>starter category. I would have him somewhere in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I do think two was a cornerstone quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe one more year of proving it, being healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>winning games late would help him get into that category unequivocally.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point was that there aren't a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the NFL that have twelve players of that caliber.

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<v Speaker 1>And he also listed three players as average starters or

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<v Speaker 1>adequate stars was the category he dubbed it. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen players that are providing you value on the football field,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning you have, you know, if you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>by the pure numbers, you have seven spots to fill.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Dolphins will definitely sign that many free agents

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<v Speaker 1>and have a draft class full of ten players. So

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<v Speaker 1>your hit, hit and misrate, you know, is going to

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<v Speaker 1>depend on how many bites of the apple you get.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'll be frugal in some areas, but be

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<v Speaker 1>able to spend aggressively in spots that are cheaper, like

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<v Speaker 1>the guard position, like the safety position.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are good holes to have.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to circle us all back to watching

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<v Speaker 1>this combine and kind of putting together my notes and

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<v Speaker 1>going off Kyle's big board and what I've developed so

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<v Speaker 1>far as my top one hundred or so players, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a lot of work to do on the

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<v Speaker 1>back half of the class. But the general takeaway that

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<v Speaker 1>I have is that at pick thirteen, Miami's gonna probably

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<v Speaker 1>get a look at a pretty good nose tackle, a

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and twenty pound player that can disrupt the

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<v Speaker 1>pass rush game and the run game. I think Kenneth

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<v Speaker 1>Grant might have surpassed Mason Graham in that regard, But

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<v Speaker 1>even though Mason Graham waited at two ninety six, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still curious about if he drops, like I would turn

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<v Speaker 1>that card in. I think at linebacker, you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a look at Jehad Campbell or even Carson Swashinger, and

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<v Speaker 1>both those guys, to me, are going to be forced multipliers.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk about here in one second, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think his ability to come down and rush the edge

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<v Speaker 1>and also just have pure speed at the off ball

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker position could be the ultimate Josh Allen Eraser. And

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<v Speaker 1>some folks might say you're essentially taking your linebacker two

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<v Speaker 1>at pick thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't look at it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that his game is just basically like a

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<v Speaker 1>superstar in the middle of your defense.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I viewed Johadd Campbell.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're gonna have a chance to go after

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive back route. I mean, Will Johnson might be

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<v Speaker 1>on the board possibly. You guys know how I fell

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<v Speaker 1>about schiavon Ravel. I don't think that he'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick because of the injuries that he's had

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<v Speaker 1>the last hit through throughout his career, but coming off

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<v Speaker 1>last year, I think you could find a cornerback there.

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Barron from Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of my new favorite players in this class

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<v Speaker 1>because of how he's spoke in Indianapolis, and I went

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<v Speaker 1>back and watched the tapement. It's like you can see

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<v Speaker 1>the preparation and the intelligence that he talked with on

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<v Speaker 1>the field of play. And I think about a Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Branch comparison as a guy that can come down. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about cater Cooho who had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>or didn't have a chance. But I just spent some

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<v Speaker 1>time watching film on him and I've kind of changed

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion on his game about where he can be

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<v Speaker 1>long term. Here with Miami Dolphins, you could be three

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<v Speaker 1>deep at the cornerback position, and if all those guys

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<v Speaker 1>can play slot and perimeter, then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>you have this like very flexible, fungible defense to how

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<v Speaker 1>Weaver wants to call it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you could argue.

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<v Speaker 1>That Tyler Warren could make it that far. You could

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<v Speaker 1>argue that Josh Simmons comes in at that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the board. Maybe Will Campbell falls because of the arm length, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins are going to have so many chances, and

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<v Speaker 1>if they can find a trade back partner, some of

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<v Speaker 1>these players I'm talking about would be targets in that scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that'll be the case, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>trade downs are going to be very difficult to come

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<v Speaker 1>across in this year's draft because of the value of

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<v Speaker 1>those like picks you know, fifteen or whatever through sixty

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<v Speaker 1>compared to the lacking top part of the class. Like

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of a bad year to be in

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<v Speaker 1>that five to ten range, and after that the value

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<v Speaker 1>starts to kind of even out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm pretty excited about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and get into my defensive notes here

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<v Speaker 1>for the combine and start with those defensive tackles, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am pretty bummed out that Kenneth Grant did not

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<v Speaker 1>work out. In fact, I don't know if I told

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<v Speaker 1>you guys this yet, but I saw Austin Clark on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the plane home from Indianapolis, and I joked

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<v Speaker 1>with him.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like two rows behind him, and I tapp

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<v Speaker 1>him on the shoulder and said, what you see, Kenneth

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<v Speaker 1>Grant doesn't gonna work out, So you just get on

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<v Speaker 1>the first flight out of Indy. I see what's up, coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and he he laughed about that. But Kenneth Grant did

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<v Speaker 1>not work out his pre combined MRI I revealed a

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<v Speaker 1>hamstring strain. That's hard to say. So he did not participate,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did weigh in at three thirty one, which, again,

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<v Speaker 1>the way he moves, I like, the way you move

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<v Speaker 1>at three thirty one is really really impressive. And his

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<v Speaker 1>teammate Mason Graham to ninety seven, was listed at three

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<v Speaker 1>twenty at Michigan. Now Grant was three forty five at Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>so hey, uh, stop lying, but three twenty down to

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<v Speaker 1>two ninety seven is a totally different player. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that actually shakes up the draft position and I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see Shamar Stewart go higher now than Mason Graham,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wouldn't be surprised if he saw Kenneth Grant

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<v Speaker 1>go higher now too. Jordan Phillips out of Maryland weighed

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and twelve pounds. He was listed at three

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<v Speaker 1>point thirty to doing people that the scale operators in

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<v Speaker 1>the Big ten.

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<v Speaker 2>The hell are we doing out there?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that he was going to I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>way he was going to move at that size made

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<v Speaker 1>for a highly intriguing nose tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still very intrigued.

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<v Speaker 1>The tape is excellent, but it's more of a three technique,

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't run at the combine either. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a chance to go watch Bobby Brown's tape.

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<v Speaker 1>Who Kyle has been pushing me towards. Pretty good defender

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<v Speaker 1>there from the rams. If he shakes free, he could

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<v Speaker 1>be the nose tackle you're looking for. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>him more later on in this week. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do draft today and Wednesday. Friday and Monday will pivot

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<v Speaker 1>to free agency talk, and then the following Wednesday will

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<v Speaker 1>be all about the moves that happened across the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League. Darius Alexander popped an indie out of Toledo.

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<v Speaker 1>He made some money at the Senior Bowl and made

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<v Speaker 1>more money this weekend. Six foot four to three to

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<v Speaker 1>zero five eighty fourth percentile or better in all the

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<v Speaker 1>timed speeds, eighty eighth percentile, ten split, which was all

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<v Speaker 1>over the reps and mobile during the one on one portions,

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<v Speaker 1>freaky twitch and get off, he was all so in

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<v Speaker 1>that same range with his jumps. I've been having a

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<v Speaker 1>really hard time with the defensive tackle position and landing

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<v Speaker 1>my guy this offseason, but not for a lack of options.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like, you know how when you pull up

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<v Speaker 1>your streaming services and you're like, I have eight different services.

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<v Speaker 2>I have ten shows that I know that I like.

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<v Speaker 1>I have fourteen shows that I'm interested in, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going to go ahead and wind up watching Workaholics

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<v Speaker 1>again because I know that I like it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't make a choice. That's kind of what happens to

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<v Speaker 1>me every time I roll through the defensive tackles, I

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<v Speaker 1>wind up skipping out in the first round, I wind

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<v Speaker 1>up passing it on the second round, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>come into day to day three and I haven't filled

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<v Speaker 1>that need yet. I just it's a tough one to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of peg down. But between those guys, I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Texas's Alfred Collins. You know, I think Alexander and

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips are somewhere on Day two, but for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>I just bypass these guys. But a real impact nose

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<v Speaker 1>tackle with wiggle and movement is kind of my priority,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that either has to be Kenneth Grant

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<v Speaker 1>or Alfred Collins. If we're going for a perfect world

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you're gonna get a crack Grant maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in the first he could be gone, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can definitely get a crack at Collins at pick

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Off the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>Shamar Stewart was a player I talked about way back

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<v Speaker 1>in October. And when I say best player available, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not as black and white as you might think it is. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you weigh multiple variables, like if a running back and

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<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver or neck and neck on your board,

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<v Speaker 1>you go receiver because the positional value right and where

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<v Speaker 1>edge might not be the biggest issue at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens to Bradley Chubb, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get JP back. You know you've got Chop Robinson.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you've got a bunch of kind of satellite

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<v Speaker 1>role players in that position as well, Like this team

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<v Speaker 1>has been three and four deep in the past, and

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<v Speaker 1>if Stewart is on the board, you sprint the card

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<v Speaker 1>in because he's the kind of player that, despite the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you don't have a pressing need to edge,

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<v Speaker 1>he transcends that. And that's why you say best player available,

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<v Speaker 1>because he will be an impact player for you as

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie and going forward at a key position which

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot bock at that He's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>there at thirteen, right. But I bring it up because

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<v Speaker 1>there was so much pushback on the idea of him

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<v Speaker 1>going in that spot previous to the combine because the

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<v Speaker 1>production was too low, which is the exact same thing

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<v Speaker 1>we heard about Chop Robinson. But the tape shows you

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a problem. He played a lot of run

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<v Speaker 1>defense in that system, played some strong side forced defender,

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<v Speaker 1>stacking the tight ends and the tackles off the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to understand football rather than just saying

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<v Speaker 1>daw sacks he's going to be a problem. He measured

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<v Speaker 1>comparably to Miles Garrett with that bend at two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy pounds in that explosiveness. Freaky, freaky athlete, a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect ten relative athletic scorecard. There was two guys in

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<v Speaker 1>this entire combine that accomplished that feat. Mike Green from

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<v Speaker 1>Marshall was six three to two fifty, but in the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty percentile for both of those off the edge, I

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<v Speaker 1>am not interested in that by any stretch of the imagination.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Ethan Downs from Oklahoma has the profile of

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<v Speaker 1>a Tias Bowser type, which is usually a pretty big

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<v Speaker 1>role in this defense, a guy that can give you

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred to five hundred snaps with a primary rundown

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<v Speaker 1>focus off the edge. Downs is two hundred and seventy pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>which is eighty eight percentile, or rather he was eighty

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<v Speaker 1>eight percentile or better, and all the speed metrics as

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<v Speaker 1>well as his broad jump his tape shows a rather

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<v Speaker 1>stiff bender which shows up in the thirty fifth and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh percentile three conor shuttle times. But hey, if

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<v Speaker 1>I can draft him in the fourth round and be

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<v Speaker 1>a five hundred snap taker off the edge and run

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<v Speaker 1>game against the run game, boom, We'll take it. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The linebacker class. I mentioned Jahad Campbell. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>a freak this guy is. The way he everything that

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<v Speaker 1>he did movement wise was impressive, and it matches on

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<v Speaker 1>the tape because I think you can sneak him down

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<v Speaker 1>off the edge. I think you can spy an athletic

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback like I think you look at the thirteenth pick

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<v Speaker 1>if Jahad Campbell's there and say, like, this could be

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<v Speaker 1>our best solution to slowing down Josh Allen. If we

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<v Speaker 1>can turn one Josh Allen touchdown possession into a punt

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<v Speaker 1>per game that we play them, and it's because of

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<v Speaker 1>Jahad Campbell, Like I would take that proposition because it

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<v Speaker 1>also plays against the other thirty one or three teams

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL too. But I think that he if

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the board at thirteen, I would have a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time not taking him. And the one reason I

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<v Speaker 1>might not take him is because I might take this

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<v Speaker 1>Carson Sweeshinger from UCLA. I've been talking about it forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought pick forty eight might be a chance, a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna happen. Now he's going in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>He was going at the forty eighth pick in all

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<v Speaker 1>my mock draft sims, but it's just wishful thinking because

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<v Speaker 1>that tape is although it was just for one year,

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<v Speaker 1>a one year started there at UCLA, it is tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought that might be why he would make

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<v Speaker 1>it the day too. But that tape paired with six

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<v Speaker 1>foot two two forty which is bigger than the average

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker of these days, a forty inch vertical. He would

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<v Speaker 1>have ran really well if he did, which he willed

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<v Speaker 1>as pro date, and he'll blaze through that thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>those two linebackers, man, I really have high on my

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<v Speaker 1>list and possibly first round picks, preferably in a trade back,

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<v Speaker 1>but again that's going to be tough to do this year.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Teddy Bucannon, first of all, spills his name

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<v Speaker 1>crazy ted d Y E. Bucannon out of Cow six

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<v Speaker 1>foot two, two thirty three, slightly above average size. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you go four to six with a ninety eighth

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<v Speaker 1>percentile vert ninety third percentile broad, and ninetieth or better

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<v Speaker 1>percentile in both the twenty and ten yard splits and

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<v Speaker 1>the bench press, that means I have to go watch

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<v Speaker 1>your tape. So I'm gonna check out Teddy Buchanan at cornerback.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned Johnny Baron from Texas. He had the quote

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. Can I be committed to the process

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<v Speaker 1>without being emotionally attached to the results. And I love

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<v Speaker 1>that because you're not going to bat one thousand in

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<v Speaker 1>the sport, especially as a defensive back, and so your

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<v Speaker 1>mindset becomes massive, and he plays totally locked in. He's

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<v Speaker 1>completely studious and thereby instinctive. I think he is a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous fit in a Brian branch Nickel safety role, which

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<v Speaker 1>again I think fits if you can get Cater playing

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<v Speaker 1>more outside, which I like him there, and you really

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<v Speaker 1>have three cornerbacks and Ramsey, Cater and Baron that can

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<v Speaker 1>play all three positions. Oh and Cater and Ramsey and

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<v Speaker 1>Baron can also kind of pivot out and play inverted

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<v Speaker 1>two high safety. So I think he exists more in

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<v Speaker 1>a trade back scenario. Kyle will tell you he's a

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<v Speaker 1>top ten pick, so maybe he doesn't agree with that,

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<v Speaker 1>but these are gonna be tough to find those trade backs.

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<v Speaker 1>But Johnny Baron, if he's a pick at thirteen, no

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<v Speaker 1>complaints from me. Maxwell Harriston from Kentucky had a great

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl. Then he comes out and runs a four

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<v Speaker 1>too eight ooh, that's flying. Also thirty nine and a

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<v Speaker 1>half inch vert ten to nine broad. He's just five

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<v Speaker 1>eleven but one to eighty three, so a good compact build.

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell Harrison from Kentucky Day three cornerback option. How about

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<v Speaker 1>zaf Frasier from utsa six foot three, one eighty seven

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<v Speaker 1>and a four to three six. I mean that's some

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<v Speaker 1>long arms ban thirty three inch arms. That screams press

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<v Speaker 1>man corner. We're gonna play more press man this year.

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<v Speaker 1>With the ability to recover on the back end. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to get to his tape. That's what this combines for.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that he had six picks last year. That

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<v Speaker 1>plays pretty well. How about Caleb Ransaw from two Lane.

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't watched him yet, but nine to nine six RRAs

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<v Speaker 1>score out of ten. He did that with a four

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<v Speaker 1>three three forty a forty inch vert ten to nine broad.

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<v Speaker 1>He weighs two hundred pounds, which is the eighty second

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<v Speaker 1>percent tile. That's the making of a true standout cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta go watch that tape.

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<v Speaker 1>Darien Porter from Iowa State is another tape that I

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<v Speaker 1>have to go watch because all he did was score

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<v Speaker 1>a nine to nine to nine on the RS. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a ten eleven broad four to three forty at six

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<v Speaker 1>foot three. Oh, he's got thirty four inch arms too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know. He got reps again Higgins and Noel

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<v Speaker 1>from the Iowa State receiver receivers in practice every day,

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<v Speaker 1>which means he was tested with both size and speed

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to go look, he had just eleven

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<v Speaker 1>snaps in the slot, so that's tough in this defense.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was almost exclusive via perimeter cornerback that if

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<v Speaker 1>he fits that role on day three, then maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>have that option. Jacob Parish from Kansas State is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that if I don't get Johnny barn I am

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<v Speaker 1>circling with Red pen on day two.

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<v Speaker 2>I love his tape.

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<v Speaker 1>He's feisty as hell, really good instincts and mirror ability.

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<v Speaker 1>Can play inside and outside. He's just five foot ten,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a ball of muscle one hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 1>one pounds, which is sixtieth percentile at that size.

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<v Speaker 2>But he ran a four to three six.

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<v Speaker 1>He can activate that as a blitzer or in man

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<v Speaker 1>coverage or even played half field in the safety position,

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<v Speaker 1>which again we've talked about how important that is here?

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty fifth percentile or better in all the runs and jumps,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, and he plays the run and presses

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<v Speaker 1>like he's out to get revenge on you. He wants

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<v Speaker 1>to beat the crap out of you every single snap.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Parrish on day two, keep an eye on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Safeties nick Eman Warri from South Carolina was a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought might be and play at forty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps the only safety and play at thirteen would

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<v Speaker 1>be Malachai Starks. I think Iman Warre might be the

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<v Speaker 1>best safety in the class because he's he's a quasi

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker and how he can blitz walk down on sim

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<v Speaker 1>pressures and then get depth in the hook zone. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was a dept at curling back underneath those throws

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen yards down the field, picking them off and then

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<v Speaker 1>running them back for touchdowns on the other side. For

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<v Speaker 1>four that's ninety eighth percent tile. And he was ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seven ninety four in the ten and twenty splits. Forty

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<v Speaker 1>three inch vertical ninety nine percent tile. Does that interest you?

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<v Speaker 1>How about an eleven six broad ninety nine percent tile?

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<v Speaker 1>How about six foot three ninety seven percent tile and

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and twenty pounds for ninety fifth percentile, a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect ten rass almost identical to Jeremy Chin's workout a

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<v Speaker 1>few years back. And I'd love to see Anthony Weaver

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<v Speaker 1>have a player like that in his defense. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>cost you pick thirteen, but he's not just a safety.

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<v Speaker 1>He would be a Derwin James type in your scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard me talk about Jeremy Chin. I think he'll

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<v Speaker 1>also be high on the radar next week, but if not,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you can find a trade partner. I doubt it

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<v Speaker 1>going to be hard this year and move move back

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<v Speaker 1>and get iman worry because he is way more than

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<v Speaker 1>just a safety. Malachai Starks, I'm kind of down on

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<v Speaker 1>him right now. His shuttle and three cone were really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he moves particularly well, not for a

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<v Speaker 1>guy you're going to take in the top fifteen. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's a really good football player. And the safety class, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is deep in the draft and free agency, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can find players with better athletic profiles. I was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>surprised to see him come in at one ninety seven

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<v Speaker 1>and have three cone, shuttle and verticals lower than the

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<v Speaker 1>fortieth percentile. He did run a nice four to five

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<v Speaker 1>flat forty though, and then Billy Bowman of tape, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a blast watching. He's got centerfield instincts from Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>back there, and how about these numbers for him four

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<v Speaker 1>four to three, one, five to four to ten split.

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<v Speaker 1>That's ninety eighth and ninety fourth percentile. So all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of good options, lots of good athletes in this class,

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<v Speaker 1>and a good chance to make this football team much better.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go ahead and take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have the offensive notes from the combine on Wednesday's podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But our break right here leads into my chat with

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<v Speaker 1>the great Emory Hunt. That's next Draft Time podcast. Your

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<v Speaker 1>host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation, joining

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<v Speaker 1>us here as he does every single year on the

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<v Speaker 1>combine floor. Emory Hunt, CBS Sports HQ. Emory, I went

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<v Speaker 1>and grabbed you over there and you were doing something else, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you taking some time today. I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>a very busy man. This week always a pleasure, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me on love coming on every year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's become a thing, and we've been we've been on

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<v Speaker 1>fire every time. We got to keep you going, I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will circle back with you sometime in May

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<v Speaker 1>to touch up on the UDFA class Because for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you that are new to the show, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know who's gonna make this Dolphins team as

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<v Speaker 1>a UDFA every single year, this is our guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the track record, it's I'm using the word like liberally.

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<v Speaker 1>It's stupid. Emory, It's stupid. How right you get this

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<v Speaker 1>every single year? Cater Coo who Julian Hill, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Texas A and m Commerce and Campbell. You're fine, though,

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<v Speaker 1>there's guys who get paid a lot of money to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, and you're doing this here on our side

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<v Speaker 1>of the of the table as it were here with media.

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<v Speaker 1>You got one of the two right. Last year we

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<v Speaker 1>had Storm Duck make the squad. Andrew Meyer from UTEP

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<v Speaker 1>also made the team out of camp. But you also

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<v Speaker 1>gave me a name that I was certain was going

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<v Speaker 1>to make the team until he got hurt in Grayson

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<v Speaker 1>Murphy from UCLA. I thought he was having a great

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<v Speaker 1>camp and I've been talking about him a lot on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. Can you just kind of give us refresher

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<v Speaker 1>on Grayson Murphy because he came out of camp like

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<v Speaker 1>a bat out of hell. He was awesome on our

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<v Speaker 1>first preseason drive and he got hurt on the goal

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<v Speaker 1>line series on that drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us about Grayce and Murphy.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>This is an outstanding player, man, And it's crazy because

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<v Speaker 4>we talked about the type of guys they drafted, right,

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<v Speaker 4>they felt like they had a type at that position.

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<v Speaker 4>He comes in, plays really well and it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that's another one that's going to help out this this

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<v Speaker 4>rotation or help be a part of this team. And

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<v Speaker 4>then unfortunately, football happens where you know, you get hurt

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<v Speaker 4>and it's hopefully he gets another swing at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he's an outstanding player.

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<v Speaker 4>It was fascinating to see him, you know, go undrafted

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<v Speaker 4>because I thought he definitely was someone based on his

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<v Speaker 4>tape should have been drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he acclimated very quickly. We had him on the

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<v Speaker 1>on our podcast in the summer. Really really cool young man,

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<v Speaker 1>fun to group for. So I'm looking forward to him

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<v Speaker 1>getting back. We could have used him last year. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of attrition at that position. We also

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<v Speaker 1>at the cornerback. I mean it feels like every year

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<v Speaker 1>every team needs like five or six corners and Storm

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<v Speaker 1>Duck because of some of the attrition there with Kendall

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<v Speaker 1>Fuller getting hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>He's now been released.

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<v Speaker 1>Storm Duck got those reps in his place, beating out

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Smith, Ethan Bonner, a couple of guys that were

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in line to possibly get reps there. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about Storm Duck and what you think for him

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<v Speaker 1>going into year two.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's interesting because we were here when we

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<v Speaker 4>were talking about Duck and how good he is and

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<v Speaker 4>how underrated he is, how great of a name he

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<v Speaker 4>has for a cornerback. Right, But when you think about

0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:31.040
<v Speaker 4>what he does about matt skills or impressive ball awareness

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<v Speaker 4>is good, which means he's able to play through the

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<v Speaker 4>hands and do a great job of playing attacking the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>He's not shocked when the ball comes his way. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think the sky is the limit for him because

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<v Speaker 4>he was someone that really jumped on the scene.

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<v Speaker 3>As a freshman. Yeah, Unc then app stayed.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, man, people keep forgetting about how good this

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<v Speaker 4>dude was right out of the gate, and he had

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<v Speaker 4>some injuries. Glad he was able to say healthy made

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<v Speaker 4>the team. I think he's going to continue to build

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<v Speaker 4>on what he did last season.

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<v Speaker 1>You got the big school kids, the UCLA kid and

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<v Speaker 1>he was at Louisville's.

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<v Speaker 2>School.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and his coach was outstanding.

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<v Speaker 4>His his dB coach does a great job, coach ellis

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<v Speaker 4>in coaching.

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<v Speaker 3>He got another guy here, Quincy.

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<v Speaker 4>I forgot his last name, but he's out here too,

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<v Speaker 4>So another Louisville corner.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know you're talking about with the name

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<v Speaker 2>also SKATESE. Smith moment.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll get, we'll get, we'll edit that end, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>do that in post. But yeah, it's it's just I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was funny that you got some big school

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<v Speaker 1>names there, because like those guys to your in Europian

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<v Speaker 1>probably should have been drafted last year, right, like they

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<v Speaker 1>were good enough to go on Day three.

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<v Speaker 4>It's always fascinating when you think about how small the

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<v Speaker 4>draft is, but how big the draft is in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of prospects. There's only it's like trying to fit a

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<v Speaker 4>bus through the front door. Only parts of the bus

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<v Speaker 4>is gonna get in. Doesn't mean there's not more bus

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<v Speaker 4>out there. And that's why I love the eighth round.

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<v Speaker 4>So the speaking terms of the undrafted free agents and

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<v Speaker 4>those guys, because there are still a ton of good

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<v Speaker 4>football players. You could take everybody's practice squad, make that

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<v Speaker 4>the thirty thirty team and beat some breaks.

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<v Speaker 3>Off some of it. So there's a lot of good

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<v Speaker 3>football players that's not on the fifty three.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the way you phrased that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I think I saw a stat that

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<v Speaker 1>it's like teams have first rounders, second rounders, then u

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<v Speaker 1>DFAs are the ones that make up most of NFL rosters.

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<v Speaker 1>So it pay attention to all these guys because they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be players that you're going to be hearing

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<v Speaker 1>about down the road. And I do want to get

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<v Speaker 1>to your sleepers here in a minute. But I've done

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<v Speaker 1>a few of these interviews and this name has not

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<v Speaker 1>yet come up. But you and I spoke about him

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<v Speaker 1>last spring. I think we talked about having Ward Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>and Jalen Milroe is our top three quarterbacks. You and

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<v Speaker 1>I were in lockstep on that. Are you still in

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<v Speaker 1>that frame of mind and talk about Jalen milrollt?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And I'm glad you asked that because I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like I've become the Jail and Milroe defender. But here's why,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's I truly believe people talk about the quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>position with aut really diving deep into it and what

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<v Speaker 4>it entails and what I love about Jail and Milroe

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<v Speaker 4>that we found out this year as a country. He

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<v Speaker 4>won the Campbell Award, which the academic heisman. I am

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<v Speaker 4>a college Football Hall of Fame voter. I'm a member

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<v Speaker 4>of the National Football Foundation, so I've gone to a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of these Campbell Award ceremonies. I remember one year

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<v Speaker 4>it was a running back that was outstanding, Sam Binger

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<v Speaker 4>from Carnegie Mellon and fantastic tailback. I called one of

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<v Speaker 4>his games and I remember him he talking to him,

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<v Speaker 4>talking to me after the ceremonies of men, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to do what you don't do. Like Sam, you got

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<v Speaker 4>a four point five in molecular biology, Go be good

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<v Speaker 4>in life.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro like you. You are already doing great.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's the type of GPAs and majors you have

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<v Speaker 4>to have to win it reachon. Is why you see

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<v Speaker 4>schools be excited when guys are named semi finalists, like

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<v Speaker 4>a Jackson dark right, who's a semifinalist. That's great because

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's your competing get against everybody in the nc

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<v Speaker 4>do PLA so D one, the D three, so Milroe

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<v Speaker 4>starting quarterback Alabama. Campbell Award shows you how locked in

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<v Speaker 4>he is with football and also his academics. He's a

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<v Speaker 4>military kid, so you know, he's very disciplined with shows

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<v Speaker 4>and him win that award and he was able to

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<v Speaker 4>play at a high level because always see this think

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<v Speaker 4>about mil Roe. When we first saw him at twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two, it was kind of like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if to do gonna make it to the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the year a quarterback, you know what I'm saying, Probably

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 4>gonna to play something else. Then twenty twenty three got

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<v Speaker 4>significantly better to the point where we're like, they can't

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<v Speaker 4>win without mill Roll. We saw the fourth quarter against Auburn,

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<v Speaker 4>the last second fourth down throw to the touch in

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<v Speaker 4>the back corner touchdown, and then we saw them beat

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<v Speaker 4>Georgia in the SEC title game where he outplayed Carson

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<v Speaker 4>back and coming into this year, people don't give him

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<v Speaker 4>credit for breaking in a new offense, which is why

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<v Speaker 4>we saw the inconsistency in some of the turnovers, but

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<v Speaker 4>the touchdowns were still the same on both sides, and

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<v Speaker 4>he still was playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Really good football.

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<v Speaker 4>He had this you know the you know the pockets

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<v Speaker 4>of games where you're just like, yo, what was going on?

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<v Speaker 4>But overall, you know this kid wants to get better,

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<v Speaker 4>has proven he can get better and has shown you

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<v Speaker 4>the willingness to improve, and we know he's mentally capable

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<v Speaker 4>of being a leader, a smart guy. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>what we're gonna hear as week goes on him interviewing

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<v Speaker 4>very well coming out of these meets, because who wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>want someone that has done all of those things and

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<v Speaker 4>also can do things athletically that a lot not a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people can.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, which I think is a perfect example of maybe

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<v Speaker 1>why he decided to come out and a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you know you would have confidence drafting in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>round somewhere because if he has that type of mentality

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<v Speaker 1>and work ethic and discipline to your point, the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that he can work on and refine, because it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to be as a backup off the top, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably not going to be drafted as a franchise

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<v Speaker 1>guy right off the top.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine that's kind of where you've come here.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I have a gap between shadur Cam, then Jail

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<v Speaker 4>and then Jail and Mirroll, so that like it's the

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<v Speaker 4>second round grade for Milrod first round grades for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Shador and Cam. But if you wanted to sell me

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<v Speaker 4>on late first round on mill Rod because of all

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<v Speaker 4>the things I mentioned, I'd.

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<v Speaker 3>Be okay, who I could buy that?

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<v Speaker 4>Because think about what we're seeing now with Malik Willis

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<v Speaker 4>in Green Bay. See what happens when you put someone

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<v Speaker 4>in a nurturing environment and you allow them to cultivate

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<v Speaker 4>their skills and you accentuate their skills with what they

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<v Speaker 4>do well by your play calling and putting in put

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<v Speaker 4>belief in their game. The same thing we're seeing with

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<v Speaker 4>Tuur when he went from one coach to the next.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like confidence. Let you go out there and play

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<v Speaker 4>free and you're getting the best of tour. Milrod's the

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<v Speaker 4>same way is I think you know, and we say

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<v Speaker 4>it with movie, but let's see a lot of quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 4>So he may not start, but if you allow him

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<v Speaker 4>to go and do what he did at Alabama, develop

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<v Speaker 4>and listen anytime, all the options are covered and you

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<v Speaker 4>could take off for seventy I mean, I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>want that on my.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I feel like the Dolphins would make

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense sometime on Day two because if

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Tua, you're gonna want to get stability at

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<v Speaker 1>back up quarterback with two as your quarterback because he's

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<v Speaker 1>missed some time and you probably want a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>can give you upside beyond what you offers. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me about this guy that's gonna come in here,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like work is butt off from day

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<v Speaker 1>one and really commit to that process with the coaching

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>staff that, by the way, has Mike McDaniel, Frank Smith,

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Darryl Bevell. I mean that there's just a loaded quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>whisper group they have there, Like it makes a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of sense to me to have him in that environment

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<v Speaker 1>or a team like the Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think they're a team that would make some sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad to have you get some perspective because,

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<v Speaker 1>like I watched that Vanderbilt game and the way he

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<v Speaker 1>was like layering throws between split field safety, I was like,

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that's that is That is not like just an afterthought throw.

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>That's like a big time NFL throw, right, he can

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<v Speaker 1>do that and he has to your point, seventy yard

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<v Speaker 1>touchdnine runner Bill think.

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<v Speaker 4>About the I'm glad you brought the Vanderbilt game because

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<v Speaker 4>there were some throws in that game that was just like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is what we wanted to see. That's the next step,

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 4>the layering of throws, even against Auburn this year, because

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 4>everything was about we know he could throw the debut.

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 4>Actually he was the best deep ball passer who last year.

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 4>So now we went against Auburn, we saw him layer

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 4>some short throws. That's where he has to really show consistency.

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 4>And the short stuff we know he get. The deep stuff,

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 4>we know he could take off. Then, speaking of taking

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 4>off LSU, we're in studio watching this game and as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as it was the second long run, as soon

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 4>as he hit the tackle, I like, oh, he's gone

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.679
<v Speaker 4>because you could see the explosiveness in turnover and he

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 4>just zoom past everybody. So with that, thinking about what

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 4>we always talk about with Miami, Tyreek Hill, Jalen Wattle,

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 4>all the speed, speed in the backfield with a chan

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 4>and right now you add a speed, explosive quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>Good luck.

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 4>That's that's the situation you want to create. Think about

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 4>why Derrick Henry had his best season with Lamar Jackson,

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 4>Think about why sa Quan had his best season with

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 4>Jalen Hurts.

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 3>You see where we're going.

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 2>The NFL's going right now, exactly.

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.400
<v Speaker 4>Put a mover quarterback with a great tailback, great things

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 4>are gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you.

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Just the I thought about a little bit in the

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 1>playoff roundm like man Emory's watching this being like I

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>told you, guys, running backs where the we're still the

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>thing in the NFL. And yeah, I just I think

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>it makes a lot of sense because while you develop him,

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>you could have a red zone option that comes into

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the game. And to your point, I've got a chan,

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I've got Jalen Wright, I've got Tyreek, I've got Waddle,

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and here's Jalen Milroe.

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<v Speaker 4>You got one dude on your team that could run

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 4>full five. Good luck And so just a tidy up

0:28:56.360 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 4>your point. I'm a big CFL guy, right, So the

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 4>CFL does a great job in having short yardist quarterbacks,

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 4>goal line quarterbacks. Saints starting to get a little bit

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 4>that with Taysom Hill not saying he's Taysom Hill like

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 4>we you can catch the ball, but I'm saying, like

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 4>you could bring in a short yardist, red zone quarterback

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 4>and still operate your offense because now you have a

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 4>true quarterback.

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 3>That can throw.

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and my w Shu Coogs did it with cam

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Ward and John Mattier two years ago and he's now

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:27.719
<v Speaker 1>with Oklahoma as another great product of the WHU Cougar's producer.

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I won't get into that too much further for you there.

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>So I've done a lot of talk about the trenches

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>on the show this week, Emory's. It's kind of what

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>every wants to talk about for the Miami Dolphins. But

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I do want to get to the skill positions, and

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll go to your alma mater of positions,

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>if you will, your former college running back here with

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>us on the show. I keep hearing this phrase. I

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>want to test it with you. Is this the deepest

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>running back class you've seen ever?

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 4>I won't say ever, because that means since nineteen twenty.

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I will say since you've created all those classes, right, I've.

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 4>Read all those shout out to Rick Grange, you know,

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 4>I will say this, since the Lenard four net class.

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 3>So that's Leonard Fournett, Christian McCaffrey.

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 4>Aaron Jones, Dalvin Cook, Dalvin Cook to Rick Cohen, Kareem Hunt.

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 4>So it's that type of class because even deeper down

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 4>you like, Yo, they got some dudes in this one.

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 3>So I like this running back class.

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 4>It's the deepest one since that one, probably deeper and

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 4>maybe a little bit past that because of the depth

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 4>of the guys and the duality of what they can do,

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 4>because of how the game is sort of continued to morph.

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 3>So yes, this is a very deep running back class.

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you think Gent's in play for the Dolphins at thirteen?

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Would you venture to think about adding him with even

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>though you already have a channel right like it might

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>be a luxury pick for the Dolphins, But what do

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>you think about that possible fit?

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:48.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I wouldn't I wouldn't hate it, but I

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 4>will I would say if we're sticking with the theme

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 4>of explosiveness, Gent wouldn't be the one I would go with,

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 4>especially if you look at what potentially is in this

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:03.479
<v Speaker 4>class and think about, Okay, the Dolphins have the speed, guys,

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 4>can we get sized with speed? Oli Gordon is sitting

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 4>right there in rounds two or whatever, right six, one, two,

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 4>twenty three and underrated explosive speed. You have guys like that,

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 4>you have maybe someone that may not have the explosive

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 4>speed but has the wiggle that kind of reminds me

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 4>of a little bit of a Matt Forte and ja

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 4>Quindon Jackson of Arkansas six one two twenty five great

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 4>and pass pro catches the ball well around, you know,

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 4>over his shoulders or whatnot, and does a great job

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 4>on both ends of offense.

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 3>You have those big guys.

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 4>That that that that do a great job in outside zone,

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 4>always making the right decisions, and those are backs. I

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 4>think something different but with the same, within the same

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 4>construct of what you want to do offensively.

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Jenty to me would be a gap scheme guy.

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, you throw a full back in front him.

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 4>He reminds me so much of Imbosmit in that reguard,

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 4>like I'd rather see him with a full back in

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 4>front of him. Gap run, run downhill. But in terms

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 4>of my Miami I told you this before, I'm trying

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 4>to get the fastest guys on the field and trying

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 4>to make this I'm trying to make you start arguing

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 4>with each other by midway through the first quarter, like

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 4>who got him?

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I went, That's what I want to create offenses.

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny because I have notes on my screen

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>here for questions I'm going to ask emery and the

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>follow up was give me guys that fit the outside zone,

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>but also maybe a little bit of power too, because

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>we've got him, We've got right. I kind of want

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that like combination back. And you just talked about a

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit there, and are there a couple more because

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, like Caleb Johnson was a guy that I

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 1>thought maybe maybe made some sense in the way he

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>could get to the perimeter for Iowa last year. I thought,

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>name right, Kiley Johnson, and then the two Ohio state

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>kids were guys that I was a big fan. Can

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you tell me about Quinn Shawn Jenkins and Trayvon Henderson

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>because you want to explosiveness man Henderson, Buddy.

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 4>I tell you what my guy, the Jay Dulsible throughout

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 4>a great comfort for Jenkins that I kind of agree with.

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 4>It's Josh Jacobs. They kind of the same guy. One

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 4>cut downhill physical runner. Henderson to me is like, listen

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 4>to jazz music. It's just so light on his feet.

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like it's just like you. It's almost

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 4>like you rather watch his highlights with a glass of

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 4>cabernet and some jazz plank because this is smooth, right,

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 4>and so.

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Judkins is heavy metal and Whiskey heavy medal of.

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 4>Whiskey and Dan Campbell sitting there egging you on, right.

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 4>So that's this type of a running back he is.

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 4>But with Henderson, Henderson kind of rounded out his game

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 4>this year. Man, you saw him be better as a

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 4>runner because he always had pass pro, which is a

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 4>great skill to have coming into the league, and he

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 4>catched football and we know about his speed and agility,

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 4>but I like that he became a little bit more

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 4>decisive as a runner, taking the free yards and then

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 4>the big yards happened because of that, and that's where

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 4>he was able to grow his game.

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that Rose Bowl was fun to watch. I love

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the Josh Jacobs comparison Becau. I've talked a little about

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>how the Packers were a team that runs the Shanahan

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>system or a variation of it, and they go out

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and they get their running back to your point about Saquon,

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>about Derrick Henry, about now Josh Jacobs in Green Bay,

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and they added that power element to their football team

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and I thought it was a great compliment. So I

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>think Miami would would do well to invest in something

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>to that effect. Let's go I hadn't pivot now to

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.239
<v Speaker 1>the receiver class, and we heard about Tyreek Hills off

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>he's in wrist surgery that he had not going to

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>be catching footballs. He will be working out all off

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>season besides catching the ball. Jalen Waddles obviously in to

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>with the contract here as well. Malik Washington was a

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>big hit for us last year. You know, I think

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.280
<v Speaker 1>that if you're looking for a receiver in this year's class,

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to me, it probably probably is a bigger body. But

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.399
<v Speaker 1>also we don't we don't misiscriminate against speed either.

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 2>We love speed.

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>So what do you think about that dynamic of how

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins receiver's room might be made up and who

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 1>might be a guy that you like in that fit?

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 4>Listen, I can't wait to see how he runs because

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm excited about him, and he kind of fits what

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 4>we talked about in Miami because he could do more

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 4>than one thing.

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Might even be your shut Your art is back? How

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 3>about saving I Williams got a TCU.

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about language? I love saving insane five.

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 4>You know we know he can get vertical. No, he's

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 4>a catch and run threat. He could play inside or outside.

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 4>But I love that in you know, third and short

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 4>goal line whatever. They put him in the backfield quarter

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 4>he's or a tailback. He's running right down at A

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 4>and B gap and ripping off sixty plus yard runs.

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 4>Like making guys. It's kind of like Carderol Patterson reincarnated.

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 4>I won't say Ryn carnacause he's still here, but you

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 4>know what Patterson was as a prospect.

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 3>He's able to do similar things.

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, man, I can't wait to see what he

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 4>runs at that size doing those things.

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 3>That's special.

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 4>To be able to have the cuts of someone that's

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 4>five to eleven but you're staying six four six five is great.

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 4>I would also toss in, you know, I know people

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 4>look at Tetero McMillan as Yeah, maybe I don't know

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:29.839
<v Speaker 4>if he's the first round. I just like how they

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 4>use him at Arizona playing inside or out. You know,

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 4>he's a catch and run guy, able to really, you know,

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 4>take a short pass and go a long way because

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 4>he's weaving in out of traffic like a New York cab.

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 4>I love that about his game as well. So there's

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 4>some dudes stylistically that I feel like can fit the

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 4>Dolphins and when you look at it, he's like, Okay,

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 4>what do we have? What can we add that does

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 4>what we do? And I think this is something that

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 4>kind of fits in what Miami kind of does and

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:57.399
<v Speaker 4>gives him a little bit different look than what they

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 4>already have on the roster.

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because you know we're gonna talk about tight

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>ends here. I'm a big fan of Tyler Warren off

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the top, and a lot of that is because he

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>can I think he can be your short yard answer

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>in an area that Miami has to get better at.

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 1>But watching Save You on Williams Man, he does the

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>wildcat stuff. He can spin off of a guy and

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>run away from him. He can hurtle like it's it's

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>so much fun to watch. I'm so glad you mentioned

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>that name. We are in lockstep there once again, my

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>friend tight end position. So do you share the same

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>sentiment about Warren. I know that's not really not that

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't do the top of the class, but you're

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>more of our sleeper guy. But tell me about the

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>tight end class here and do you think Warren would

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>make sense?

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 2>It picked thirteen.

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 4>Tight end class is really good, Like there's no nuance

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 4>about this, A really good class, like the running back class,

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 4>and because we're starting to see teams. We talked about

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 4>this a couple of years ago where I think you

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:48.399
<v Speaker 4>asked a question while we're seeing so many good tight

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 4>ends coming from small schools, and I told you it

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 4>was like, well, because you've got the taller, a step slower,

0:36:55.880 --> 0:37:00.080
<v Speaker 4>skinnier receivers that are getting picked up by the They

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 4>tournament's tight ends. And now you have these athletic guys

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 4>that can run because they were receivers in high school.

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 4>So we've seen the position bloom and blossom. But for Warren,

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 4>we just talked about red zone right, red zone heavy

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 4>on this Pott. We talked about Jellow mill Roe, we

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:20.839
<v Speaker 4>talked about Savi Williams. Warren is right there because we

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 4>see how Penn State used in Pens State understands you

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.760
<v Speaker 4>are our best offensive player. We're gonna get you the football,

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna put you on offense and let you do

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 4>offensive things. And so him being a wildcat quarterback that

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 4>can throw gives you a whole new dynamic as a

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 4>heightened him being a route runner is and as fluid

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 4>as he can be dynamic with the ball in his hands,

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 4>he's to me, he's sort of like and not because

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 4>they were the same number, but Dallas Clark. Same type

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.959
<v Speaker 4>of guy, same type of he should be moving that fast.

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:49.959
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he's that fast, but he's out running

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 4>by linebacker, he's always open, he catches through contact.

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 3>That's a really good prospect.

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:59.479
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad people are feeling comfortable and putting him high

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 4>in the draft because that's the type of guys you

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 4>take in first round, those obvious impact players.

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I think he makes a lot of sense for the

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>way he can impact the edge in the outside his

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 1>own game, the way he can catch the football, and

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>he's not like a shaky route runner, but he gets open.

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he's really sop.

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's all you need, a little bit of space.

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all it takes. Man.

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:17.839
<v Speaker 1>So looking forward to see what happens there, I think

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 1>it goes before the Dolphins quite frankly, but we'll see

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.280
<v Speaker 1>if he makes it there. Let's close with the cornerback position, Emery,

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.399
<v Speaker 1>because we saw the Dolphins release Kendall Fuller a couple

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>of weeks back.

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Right now, we've got Jillen Ramsey and.

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Cater Coo, who had his best year as or pro

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 1>by the way, he was out standing in twenty twenty four.

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:32.840
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about a possible corner for the

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins here? Maybe later in the draftic of thinking.

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 4>About I will say I got a couple guys listed.

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 4>Isis Waxer, who's here at the combine out of Villanova.

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:43.720
<v Speaker 4>I called this game against Mamath and in the press

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 4>box I see like twelve NFL scouts there and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>thinking they're there for Mama's running back Tony Into who's

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<v Speaker 4>five eleven, two thirty five that had like thirty touchdowns

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<v Speaker 4>this year or something crazy. It was thirty like one

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<v Speaker 4>yard toeschdowns. But he was a show. He was a

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<v Speaker 4>wild quarterback and just pounding it. So he's an NFL prospect.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably see him on the Dolphins as well too. But

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<v Speaker 4>there was that Sea Waxer, and wax was a big corner.

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<v Speaker 4>Cameron match physical press skills, and he was doing the

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<v Speaker 4>same things at the Shrine game as well. So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>glad to see him go there excel and now he's

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<v Speaker 4>here is to see how he runs.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a couple of names.

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<v Speaker 4>I said this before the season, Kansas has the best

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<v Speaker 4>duo of corners in college football easily in the Big twelve,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's Melo Dotson and Kobe Bryant. Melo Dotson has

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<v Speaker 4>great ball skills, ball aware, and his ball instincts will

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<v Speaker 4>turn the ball over.

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<v Speaker 3>In a heartbeat.

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<v Speaker 4>Bryant I was shocked at the shrine that he measured

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<v Speaker 4>in at his size, not in a negative way. It

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<v Speaker 4>was like, wow, I thought he was He told me

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<v Speaker 4>he was six two two twenty. I believe that that's

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<v Speaker 4>how he plays. He's five eleven one seventy five, plays

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<v Speaker 4>way bigger than his size and is feisty, aggressive, another

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<v Speaker 4>one that attacks the ball. Those two dudes are gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be fantastic corners that can give you some versatilely playing

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<v Speaker 4>insider out and a sleeper. Carlin Vigors of ul Monroe

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<v Speaker 4>six one one eight five had a great Hula Bowl week.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll watch your game against Texas. You see him handle

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<v Speaker 4>one of those Texas receivers rather well. That says a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was just at the AHVC Legacy Bowl last weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Robert McDaniel out of Jackson State defensive back could play

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<v Speaker 4>safety but can cover six two two thirteen, ran four

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<v Speaker 4>to five, jump ten eight on a broad jump had

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<v Speaker 4>the thirty and a half ins vertical outstanding defender.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find guys anywhere. Man, did the numbers? You're

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<v Speaker 1>listening here about these kids? Like why are they not

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<v Speaker 1>at Ohio State or playing football?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? Like it is crazy to

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<v Speaker 2>hear that those measurements.

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<v Speaker 1>And once again, Emory, you've done it for us here,

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<v Speaker 1>providing us all kinds of great content.

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<v Speaker 2>What about twenty minutes with you?

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<v Speaker 1>So I appreciate that time you gave us here, Emory,

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<v Speaker 1>CBS Sports HQ.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the week looking like for you? What are you

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<v Speaker 2>working on? Working the folks find a.

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<v Speaker 3>Still working on the draft guy? Man, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the largest draft guy in existence football gameplan dot

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<v Speaker 4>Com SLAS twenty twenty five Draft Guide, over one thousand individuals,

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<v Speaker 3>You've seen the draft guy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's beneficial not only to begin the season draft regular

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<v Speaker 4>season gods pop in and off the like who the

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<v Speaker 4>hell is this tight end we just got from Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Blow State? Oh Emory has a report from Joe Blowstate

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<v Speaker 4>on this tight end we just got. So and it

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<v Speaker 4>helps you become a more knowledgeable fan. I always it's

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<v Speaker 4>a labor of love. It's very intensive, uh and so,

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<v Speaker 4>but I love doing it because on the back end,

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<v Speaker 4>I know it tests the table for the NFL season,

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<v Speaker 4>CFL season, UFL season. A lot of these guys go

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<v Speaker 4>elsewhere and play even in European League of Football. We

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<v Speaker 4>got touched, we got we got bodies out there as

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<v Speaker 4>well too. So Football gameplan dot Com say's twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five draft guy. That's what you That's what I'm focused

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<v Speaker 4>on here. But also always want to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Who run fast, great stuff. As always, he'll make you

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<v Speaker 1>a smarter football fan. Dolphins and Emory Hunt appreciate your

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<v Speaker 1>time today, man, Thank you again, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>As always.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a man that knows his value and what he

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<v Speaker 1>offers in the draft space. And he's not wrong. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the draft guy that he produces and the value

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, everyone talks about these, you know, top

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifty one hundred prospects, but Emory takes you three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred deep every single year and gives you a good

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<v Speaker 1>feeling about you know what you might add at the

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<v Speaker 1>cutdown day in September when rosters are being finalized, So

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<v Speaker 1>check out his work in the meantime.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be my time.

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