Speaker 1: What is up Dolphins, and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and on today's show,
Speaker 1: the combine is in the books. We're going to recap
Speaker 1: what happened on the field with the workouts and the
Speaker 1: prospects that jumped off the tape to me on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the football. Today, plus my friend Emery Hunt,
Speaker 1: who is a UDFA and sleeper Whiz, drops by the
Speaker 1: show and talk about all things Dolphins draft, late round picks,
Speaker 1: possible matches. There from the Baptist Health Studios inside the
Speaker 1: Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 1: Ye hey guys, So first time back with you here.
Speaker 1: That wasn't a pre taped interview or talking from the
Speaker 1: floor in Indianapolis. I am back in beautiful South Florida
Speaker 1: talking to you guys about these scouting combined workouts that
Speaker 1: I just finished watching over the weekend. And before I
Speaker 1: get into my defensive notes and then our chat with
Speaker 1: Emery Hunt today, I wanted to just kind of explain
Speaker 1: how I've come to this conclusion that the Dolphins are
Speaker 1: in a really good spot with the thirteenth pick in
Speaker 1: this year's draft. And I say that because well, we'll
Speaker 1: go into this thing and with the tront Armstead money,
Speaker 1: with what I expect to happen with some type of
Speaker 1: restructures and finagling of the salary cap, the Dolphins are
Speaker 1: going to find a way to be responsibly flexible this
Speaker 1: year in free agency, and I think you're going to
Speaker 1: see them sign a couple of offensive linemen. I think
Speaker 1: you're going to see them pursue a kind of chess
Speaker 1: piece safety aggressively in free agency and try to round
Speaker 1: out some holes that way so they can do what
Speaker 1: they always love to do every year in April and
Speaker 1: be flexible to take the best players available. But when
Speaker 1: you look at the current construction of the roster, and
Speaker 1: if you guys check out the Lockdown Dolphins podcast this
Speaker 1: week with Kyle Krabs, he and I have been discussing
Speaker 1: this for months now, but he'll cover it very in
Speaker 1: depth for you guys on that program, And we were
Speaker 1: discussing the fact that Miami and his estimation and all
Speaker 1: weigh on this later on in the week, has twelve
Speaker 1: players that would hit the landmarks of quality starter or
Speaker 1: cornerstone franchise piece. He has six in either category. And
Speaker 1: for those that are curious to was in the quality
Speaker 1: starter category. I would have him somewhere in the middle
Speaker 1: of that. I do think two was a cornerstone quarterback,
Speaker 1: but maybe one more year of proving it, being healthy,
Speaker 1: winning games late would help him get into that category unequivocally.
Speaker 1: But the point was that there aren't a lot of
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL that have twelve players of that caliber.
Speaker 1: And he also listed three players as average starters or
Speaker 1: adequate stars was the category he dubbed it. So that's
Speaker 1: fifteen players that are providing you value on the football field,
Speaker 1: meaning you have, you know, if you want to go
Speaker 1: by the pure numbers, you have seven spots to fill.
Speaker 1: And the Dolphins will definitely sign that many free agents
Speaker 1: and have a draft class full of ten players. So
Speaker 1: your hit, hit and misrate, you know, is going to
Speaker 1: depend on how many bites of the apple you get.
Speaker 1: I think they'll be frugal in some areas, but be
Speaker 1: able to spend aggressively in spots that are cheaper, like
Speaker 1: the guard position, like the safety position.
Speaker 2: Those are good holes to have.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to circle us all back to watching
Speaker 1: this combine and kind of putting together my notes and
Speaker 1: going off Kyle's big board and what I've developed so
Speaker 1: far as my top one hundred or so players, and
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of work to do on the
Speaker 1: back half of the class. But the general takeaway that
Speaker 1: I have is that at pick thirteen, Miami's gonna probably
Speaker 1: get a look at a pretty good nose tackle, a
Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty pound player that can disrupt the
Speaker 1: pass rush game and the run game. I think Kenneth
Speaker 1: Grant might have surpassed Mason Graham in that regard, But
Speaker 1: even though Mason Graham waited at two ninety six, I'm
Speaker 1: still curious about if he drops, like I would turn
Speaker 1: that card in. I think at linebacker, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: a look at Jehad Campbell or even Carson Swashinger, and
Speaker 1: both those guys, to me, are going to be forced multipliers.
Speaker 1: And we'll talk about here in one second, but I
Speaker 1: think his ability to come down and rush the edge
Speaker 1: and also just have pure speed at the off ball
Speaker 1: linebacker position could be the ultimate Josh Allen Eraser. And
Speaker 1: some folks might say you're essentially taking your linebacker two
Speaker 1: at pick thirteen.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't look at it that way.
Speaker 1: I think that his game is just basically like a
Speaker 1: superstar in the middle of your defense.
Speaker 2: That's how I viewed Johadd Campbell.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have a chance to go after
Speaker 1: the defensive back route. I mean, Will Johnson might be
Speaker 1: on the board possibly. You guys know how I fell
Speaker 1: about schiavon Ravel. I don't think that he'll be a
Speaker 1: first round pick because of the injuries that he's had
Speaker 1: the last hit through throughout his career, but coming off
Speaker 1: last year, I think you could find a cornerback there.
Speaker 2: Johnny Barron from Texas.
Speaker 1: It's one of my new favorite players in this class
Speaker 1: because of how he's spoke in Indianapolis, and I went
Speaker 1: back and watched the tapement. It's like you can see
Speaker 1: the preparation and the intelligence that he talked with on
Speaker 1: the field of play. And I think about a Brian
Speaker 1: Branch comparison as a guy that can come down. And
Speaker 1: we'll talk about cater Cooho who had a chance to
Speaker 1: or didn't have a chance. But I just spent some
Speaker 1: time watching film on him and I've kind of changed
Speaker 1: my opinion on his game about where he can be
Speaker 1: long term. Here with Miami Dolphins, you could be three
Speaker 1: deep at the cornerback position, and if all those guys
Speaker 1: can play slot and perimeter, then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you have this like very flexible, fungible defense to how
Speaker 1: Weaver wants to call it.
Speaker 2: I think you could argue.
Speaker 1: That Tyler Warren could make it that far. You could
Speaker 1: argue that Josh Simmons comes in at that part of
Speaker 1: the board. Maybe Will Campbell falls because of the arm length, Like,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are going to have so many chances, and
Speaker 1: if they can find a trade back partner, some of
Speaker 1: these players I'm talking about would be targets in that scenario.
Speaker 1: I don't think that'll be the case, because I think
Speaker 1: trade downs are going to be very difficult to come
Speaker 1: across in this year's draft because of the value of
Speaker 1: those like picks you know, fifteen or whatever through sixty
Speaker 1: compared to the lacking top part of the class. Like
Speaker 1: this is kind of a bad year to be in
Speaker 1: that five to ten range, and after that the value
Speaker 1: starts to kind of even out.
Speaker 2: So I'm pretty excited about this.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get into my defensive notes here
Speaker 1: for the combine and start with those defensive tackles, and
Speaker 1: I am pretty bummed out that Kenneth Grant did not
Speaker 1: work out. In fact, I don't know if I told
Speaker 1: you guys this yet, but I saw Austin Clark on
Speaker 1: the on the plane home from Indianapolis, and I joked
Speaker 1: with him.
Speaker 2: He didn't know.
Speaker 1: I was like two rows behind him, and I tapp
Speaker 1: him on the shoulder and said, what you see, Kenneth
Speaker 1: Grant doesn't gonna work out, So you just get on
Speaker 1: the first flight out of Indy. I see what's up, coach,
Speaker 1: and he he laughed about that. But Kenneth Grant did
Speaker 1: not work out his pre combined MRI I revealed a
Speaker 1: hamstring strain. That's hard to say. So he did not participate,
Speaker 1: but he did weigh in at three thirty one, which, again,
Speaker 1: the way he moves, I like, the way you move
Speaker 1: at three thirty one is really really impressive. And his
Speaker 1: teammate Mason Graham to ninety seven, was listed at three
Speaker 1: twenty at Michigan. Now Grant was three forty five at Michigan,
Speaker 1: so hey, uh, stop lying, but three twenty down to
Speaker 1: two ninety seven is a totally different player. I think
Speaker 1: that actually shakes up the draft position and I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna see Shamar Stewart go higher now than Mason Graham,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if he saw Kenneth Grant
Speaker 1: go higher now too. Jordan Phillips out of Maryland weighed
Speaker 1: three hundred and twelve pounds. He was listed at three
Speaker 1: point thirty to doing people that the scale operators in
Speaker 1: the Big ten.
Speaker 2: The hell are we doing out there?
Speaker 1: I thought that he was going to I thought the
Speaker 1: way he was going to move at that size made
Speaker 1: for a highly intriguing nose tackle.
Speaker 2: I'm still very intrigued.
Speaker 1: The tape is excellent, but it's more of a three technique,
Speaker 1: and he didn't run at the combine either. By the way,
Speaker 1: I had a chance to go watch Bobby Brown's tape.
Speaker 1: Who Kyle has been pushing me towards. Pretty good defender
Speaker 1: there from the rams. If he shakes free, he could
Speaker 1: be the nose tackle you're looking for. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: him more later on in this week. We're going to
Speaker 1: do draft today and Wednesday. Friday and Monday will pivot
Speaker 1: to free agency talk, and then the following Wednesday will
Speaker 1: be all about the moves that happened across the National
Speaker 1: Football League. Darius Alexander popped an indie out of Toledo.
Speaker 1: He made some money at the Senior Bowl and made
Speaker 1: more money this weekend. Six foot four to three to
Speaker 1: zero five eighty fourth percentile or better in all the
Speaker 1: timed speeds, eighty eighth percentile, ten split, which was all
Speaker 1: over the reps and mobile during the one on one portions,
Speaker 1: freaky twitch and get off, he was all so in
Speaker 1: that same range with his jumps. I've been having a
Speaker 1: really hard time with the defensive tackle position and landing
Speaker 1: my guy this offseason, but not for a lack of options.
Speaker 1: It's almost like, you know how when you pull up
Speaker 1: your streaming services and you're like, I have eight different services.
Speaker 2: I have ten shows that I know that I like.
Speaker 1: I have fourteen shows that I'm interested in, and I'm
Speaker 1: just going to go ahead and wind up watching Workaholics
Speaker 1: again because I know that I like it, and I
Speaker 1: can't make a choice. That's kind of what happens to
Speaker 1: me every time I roll through the defensive tackles, I
Speaker 1: wind up skipping out in the first round, I wind
Speaker 1: up passing it on the second round, and then I
Speaker 1: come into day to day three and I haven't filled
Speaker 1: that need yet. I just it's a tough one to
Speaker 1: kind of peg down. But between those guys, I talked
Speaker 1: about Texas's Alfred Collins. You know, I think Alexander and
Speaker 1: Phillips are somewhere on Day two, but for some reason,
Speaker 1: I just bypass these guys. But a real impact nose
Speaker 1: tackle with wiggle and movement is kind of my priority,
Speaker 1: and I think that either has to be Kenneth Grant
Speaker 1: or Alfred Collins. If we're going for a perfect world
Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna get a crack Grant maybe
Speaker 1: in the first he could be gone, and I think
Speaker 1: you can definitely get a crack at Collins at pick
Speaker 1: forty eight.
Speaker 2: Off the edge.
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart was a player I talked about way back
Speaker 1: in October. And when I say best player available, that's
Speaker 1: not as black and white as you might think it is. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you weigh multiple variables, like if a running back and
Speaker 1: a wide receiver or neck and neck on your board,
Speaker 1: you go receiver because the positional value right and where
Speaker 1: edge might not be the biggest issue at the moment.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens to Bradley Chubb, but you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna get JP back. You know you've got Chop Robinson.
Speaker 1: You know you've got a bunch of kind of satellite
Speaker 1: role players in that position as well, Like this team
Speaker 1: has been three and four deep in the past, and
Speaker 1: if Stewart is on the board, you sprint the card
Speaker 1: in because he's the kind of player that, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that you don't have a pressing need to edge,
Speaker 1: he transcends that. And that's why you say best player available,
Speaker 1: because he will be an impact player for you as
Speaker 1: a rookie and going forward at a key position which
Speaker 1: you cannot bock at that He's not going to be
Speaker 1: there at thirteen, right. But I bring it up because
Speaker 1: there was so much pushback on the idea of him
Speaker 1: going in that spot previous to the combine because the
Speaker 1: production was too low, which is the exact same thing
Speaker 1: we heard about Chop Robinson. But the tape shows you
Speaker 1: it's not a problem. He played a lot of run
Speaker 1: defense in that system, played some strong side forced defender,
Speaker 1: stacking the tight ends and the tackles off the edge.
Speaker 1: You just have to understand football rather than just saying
Speaker 1: daw sacks he's going to be a problem. He measured
Speaker 1: comparably to Miles Garrett with that bend at two hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy pounds in that explosiveness. Freaky, freaky athlete, a
Speaker 1: perfect ten relative athletic scorecard. There was two guys in
Speaker 1: this entire combine that accomplished that feat. Mike Green from
Speaker 1: Marshall was six three to two fifty, but in the
Speaker 1: thirty percentile for both of those off the edge, I
Speaker 1: am not interested in that by any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 1: And then Ethan Downs from Oklahoma has the profile of
Speaker 1: a Tias Bowser type, which is usually a pretty big
Speaker 1: role in this defense, a guy that can give you
Speaker 1: three hundred to five hundred snaps with a primary rundown
Speaker 1: focus off the edge. Downs is two hundred and seventy pounds,
Speaker 1: which is eighty eight percentile, or rather he was eighty
Speaker 1: eight percentile or better, and all the speed metrics as
Speaker 1: well as his broad jump his tape shows a rather
Speaker 1: stiff bender which shows up in the thirty fifth and
Speaker 1: twenty seventh percentile three conor shuttle times. But hey, if
Speaker 1: I can draft him in the fourth round and be
Speaker 1: a five hundred snap taker off the edge and run
Speaker 1: game against the run game, boom, We'll take it. Now.
Speaker 1: The linebacker class. I mentioned Jahad Campbell. I mean, what
Speaker 1: a freak this guy is. The way he everything that
Speaker 1: he did movement wise was impressive, and it matches on
Speaker 1: the tape because I think you can sneak him down
Speaker 1: off the edge. I think you can spy an athletic
Speaker 1: quarterback like I think you look at the thirteenth pick
Speaker 1: if Jahad Campbell's there and say, like, this could be
Speaker 1: our best solution to slowing down Josh Allen. If we
Speaker 1: can turn one Josh Allen touchdown possession into a punt
Speaker 1: per game that we play them, and it's because of
Speaker 1: Jahad Campbell, Like I would take that proposition because it
Speaker 1: also plays against the other thirty one or three teams
Speaker 1: in the NFL too. But I think that he if
Speaker 1: he's on the board at thirteen, I would have a
Speaker 1: hard time not taking him. And the one reason I
Speaker 1: might not take him is because I might take this
Speaker 1: Carson Sweeshinger from UCLA. I've been talking about it forever.
Speaker 1: I thought pick forty eight might be a chance, a possibility.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. Now he's going in the first round.
Speaker 1: He was going at the forty eighth pick in all
Speaker 1: my mock draft sims, but it's just wishful thinking because
Speaker 1: that tape is although it was just for one year,
Speaker 1: a one year started there at UCLA, it is tremendous
Speaker 1: and I thought that might be why he would make
Speaker 1: it the day too. But that tape paired with six
Speaker 1: foot two two forty which is bigger than the average
Speaker 1: linebacker of these days, a forty inch vertical. He would
Speaker 1: have ran really well if he did, which he willed
Speaker 1: as pro date, and he'll blaze through that thing. So
Speaker 1: those two linebackers, man, I really have high on my
Speaker 1: list and possibly first round picks, preferably in a trade back,
Speaker 1: but again that's going to be tough to do this year.
Speaker 1: And then Teddy Bucannon, first of all, spills his name
Speaker 1: crazy ted d Y E. Bucannon out of Cow six
Speaker 1: foot two, two thirty three, slightly above average size. But
Speaker 1: when you go four to six with a ninety eighth
Speaker 1: percentile vert ninety third percentile broad, and ninetieth or better
Speaker 1: percentile in both the twenty and ten yard splits and
Speaker 1: the bench press, that means I have to go watch
Speaker 1: your tape. So I'm gonna check out Teddy Buchanan at cornerback.
Speaker 1: I mentioned Johnny Baron from Texas. He had the quote
Speaker 1: of the week. Can I be committed to the process
Speaker 1: without being emotionally attached to the results. And I love
Speaker 1: that because you're not going to bat one thousand in
Speaker 1: the sport, especially as a defensive back, and so your
Speaker 1: mindset becomes massive, and he plays totally locked in. He's
Speaker 1: completely studious and thereby instinctive. I think he is a
Speaker 1: tremendous fit in a Brian branch Nickel safety role, which
Speaker 1: again I think fits if you can get Cater playing
Speaker 1: more outside, which I like him there, and you really
Speaker 1: have three cornerbacks and Ramsey, Cater and Baron that can
Speaker 1: play all three positions. Oh and Cater and Ramsey and
Speaker 1: Baron can also kind of pivot out and play inverted
Speaker 1: two high safety. So I think he exists more in
Speaker 1: a trade back scenario. Kyle will tell you he's a
Speaker 1: top ten pick, so maybe he doesn't agree with that,
Speaker 1: but these are gonna be tough to find those trade backs.
Speaker 1: But Johnny Baron, if he's a pick at thirteen, no
Speaker 1: complaints from me. Maxwell Harriston from Kentucky had a great
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Then he comes out and runs a four
Speaker 1: too eight ooh, that's flying. Also thirty nine and a
Speaker 1: half inch vert ten to nine broad. He's just five
Speaker 1: eleven but one to eighty three, so a good compact build.
Speaker 1: Maxwell Harrison from Kentucky Day three cornerback option. How about
Speaker 1: zaf Frasier from utsa six foot three, one eighty seven
Speaker 1: and a four to three six. I mean that's some
Speaker 1: long arms ban thirty three inch arms. That screams press
Speaker 1: man corner. We're gonna play more press man this year.
Speaker 1: With the ability to recover on the back end. I
Speaker 1: got to get to his tape. That's what this combines for.
Speaker 1: I saw that he had six picks last year. That
Speaker 1: plays pretty well. How about Caleb Ransaw from two Lane.
Speaker 1: Haven't watched him yet, but nine to nine six RRAs
Speaker 1: score out of ten. He did that with a four
Speaker 1: three three forty a forty inch vert ten to nine broad.
Speaker 1: He weighs two hundred pounds, which is the eighty second
Speaker 1: percent tile. That's the making of a true standout cornerback
Speaker 1: in the National Football League.
Speaker 2: Gotta go watch that tape.
Speaker 1: Darien Porter from Iowa State is another tape that I
Speaker 1: have to go watch because all he did was score
Speaker 1: a nine to nine to nine on the RS. It's
Speaker 1: a ten eleven broad four to three forty at six
Speaker 1: foot three. Oh, he's got thirty four inch arms too,
Speaker 1: Like I know. He got reps again Higgins and Noel
Speaker 1: from the Iowa State receiver receivers in practice every day,
Speaker 1: which means he was tested with both size and speed
Speaker 1: and I had to go look, he had just eleven
Speaker 1: snaps in the slot, so that's tough in this defense.
Speaker 1: But he was almost exclusive via perimeter cornerback that if
Speaker 1: he fits that role on day three, then maybe you
Speaker 1: have that option. Jacob Parish from Kansas State is a
Speaker 1: guy that if I don't get Johnny barn I am
Speaker 1: circling with Red pen on day two.
Speaker 2: I love his tape.
Speaker 1: He's feisty as hell, really good instincts and mirror ability.
Speaker 1: Can play inside and outside. He's just five foot ten,
Speaker 1: but he's a ball of muscle one hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: one pounds, which is sixtieth percentile at that size.
Speaker 2: But he ran a four to three six.
Speaker 1: He can activate that as a blitzer or in man
Speaker 1: coverage or even played half field in the safety position,
Speaker 1: which again we've talked about how important that is here?
Speaker 1: Eighty fifth percentile or better in all the runs and jumps,
Speaker 1: all of that, and he plays the run and presses
Speaker 1: like he's out to get revenge on you. He wants
Speaker 1: to beat the crap out of you every single snap.
Speaker 1: Jacob Parrish on day two, keep an eye on him.
Speaker 1: Safeties nick Eman Warri from South Carolina was a guy
Speaker 1: that I thought might be and play at forty eight,
Speaker 1: and perhaps the only safety and play at thirteen would
Speaker 1: be Malachai Starks. I think Iman Warre might be the
Speaker 1: best safety in the class because he's he's a quasi
Speaker 1: linebacker and how he can blitz walk down on sim
Speaker 1: pressures and then get depth in the hook zone. And
Speaker 1: he was a dept at curling back underneath those throws
Speaker 1: fifteen yards down the field, picking them off and then
Speaker 1: running them back for touchdowns on the other side. For
Speaker 1: four that's ninety eighth percent tile. And he was ninety
Speaker 1: seven ninety four in the ten and twenty splits. Forty
Speaker 1: three inch vertical ninety nine percent tile. Does that interest you?
Speaker 1: How about an eleven six broad ninety nine percent tile?
Speaker 1: How about six foot three ninety seven percent tile and
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty pounds for ninety fifth percentile, a
Speaker 1: perfect ten rass almost identical to Jeremy Chin's workout a
Speaker 1: few years back. And I'd love to see Anthony Weaver
Speaker 1: have a player like that in his defense. It's gonna
Speaker 1: cost you pick thirteen, but he's not just a safety.
Speaker 1: He would be a Derwin James type in your scheme.
Speaker 1: You heard me talk about Jeremy Chin. I think he'll
Speaker 1: also be high on the radar next week, but if not,
Speaker 1: maybe you can find a trade partner. I doubt it
Speaker 1: going to be hard this year and move move back
Speaker 1: and get iman worry because he is way more than
Speaker 1: just a safety. Malachai Starks, I'm kind of down on
Speaker 1: him right now. His shuttle and three cone were really bad.
Speaker 1: I don't think he moves particularly well, not for a
Speaker 1: guy you're going to take in the top fifteen. But
Speaker 1: he's a really good football player. And the safety class, though,
Speaker 1: is deep in the draft and free agency, and I
Speaker 1: can find players with better athletic profiles. I was pretty
Speaker 1: surprised to see him come in at one ninety seven
Speaker 1: and have three cone, shuttle and verticals lower than the
Speaker 1: fortieth percentile. He did run a nice four to five
Speaker 1: flat forty though, and then Billy Bowman of tape, I
Speaker 1: had a blast watching. He's got centerfield instincts from Oklahoma
Speaker 1: back there, and how about these numbers for him four
Speaker 1: four to three, one, five to four to ten split.
Speaker 1: That's ninety eighth and ninety fourth percentile. So all kinds
Speaker 1: of good options, lots of good athletes in this class,
Speaker 1: and a good chance to make this football team much better.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll have the offensive notes from the combine on Wednesday's podcast.
Speaker 1: But our break right here leads into my chat with
Speaker 1: the great Emory Hunt. That's next Draft Time podcast. Your
Speaker 1: host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation, joining
Speaker 1: us here as he does every single year on the
Speaker 1: combine floor. Emory Hunt, CBS Sports HQ. Emory, I went
Speaker 1: and grabbed you over there and you were doing something else, man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking some time today. I know you're
Speaker 1: a very busy man. This week always a pleasure, man.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on love coming on every year.
Speaker 1: It's become a thing, and we've been we've been on
Speaker 1: fire every time. We got to keep you going, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and we will circle back with you sometime in May
Speaker 1: to touch up on the UDFA class Because for those
Speaker 1: of you that are new to the show, if you
Speaker 1: want to know who's gonna make this Dolphins team as
Speaker 1: a UDFA every single year, this is our guy. I
Speaker 1: mean the track record, it's I'm using the word like liberally.
Speaker 1: It's stupid. Emory, It's stupid. How right you get this
Speaker 1: every single year? Cater Coo who Julian Hill, I mean
Speaker 1: Texas A and m Commerce and Campbell. You're fine, though,
Speaker 1: there's guys who get paid a lot of money to
Speaker 1: do this, and you're doing this here on our side
Speaker 1: of the of the table as it were here with media.
Speaker 1: You got one of the two right. Last year we
Speaker 1: had Storm Duck make the squad. Andrew Meyer from UTEP
Speaker 1: also made the team out of camp. But you also
Speaker 1: gave me a name that I was certain was going
Speaker 1: to make the team until he got hurt in Grayson
Speaker 1: Murphy from UCLA. I thought he was having a great
Speaker 1: camp and I've been talking about him a lot on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Can you just kind of give us refresher
Speaker 1: on Grayson Murphy because he came out of camp like
Speaker 1: a bat out of hell. He was awesome on our
Speaker 1: first preseason drive and he got hurt on the goal
Speaker 1: line series on that drive.
Speaker 2: Tell us about Grayce and Murphy.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 4: This is an outstanding player, man, And it's crazy because
Speaker 4: we talked about the type of guys they drafted, right,
Speaker 4: they felt like they had a type at that position.
Speaker 4: He comes in, plays really well and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: that's another one that's going to help out this this
Speaker 4: rotation or help be a part of this team. And
Speaker 4: then unfortunately, football happens where you know, you get hurt
Speaker 4: and it's hopefully he gets another swing at it.
Speaker 3: Because he's an outstanding player.
Speaker 4: It was fascinating to see him, you know, go undrafted
Speaker 4: because I thought he definitely was someone based on his
Speaker 4: tape should have been drafted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he acclimated very quickly. We had him on the
Speaker 1: on our podcast in the summer. Really really cool young man,
Speaker 1: fun to group for. So I'm looking forward to him
Speaker 1: getting back. We could have used him last year. We
Speaker 1: had a lot of attrition at that position. We also
Speaker 1: at the cornerback. I mean it feels like every year
Speaker 1: every team needs like five or six corners and Storm
Speaker 1: Duck because of some of the attrition there with Kendall
Speaker 1: Fuller getting hurt.
Speaker 2: He's now been released.
Speaker 1: Storm Duck got those reps in his place, beating out
Speaker 1: Cam Smith, Ethan Bonner, a couple of guys that were
Speaker 1: you know, in line to possibly get reps there. Tell
Speaker 1: us about Storm Duck and what you think for him
Speaker 1: going into year two.
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting because we were here when we
Speaker 4: were talking about Duck and how good he is and
Speaker 4: how underrated he is, how great of a name he
Speaker 4: has for a cornerback. Right, But when you think about
Speaker 4: what he does about matt skills or impressive ball awareness
Speaker 4: is good, which means he's able to play through the
Speaker 4: hands and do a great job of playing attacking the ball.
Speaker 4: He's not shocked when the ball comes his way. And
Speaker 4: I think the sky is the limit for him because
Speaker 4: he was someone that really jumped on the scene.
Speaker 3: As a freshman. Yeah, Unc then app stayed.
Speaker 4: It's like, man, people keep forgetting about how good this
Speaker 4: dude was right out of the gate, and he had
Speaker 4: some injuries. Glad he was able to say healthy made
Speaker 4: the team. I think he's going to continue to build
Speaker 4: on what he did last season.
Speaker 1: You got the big school kids, the UCLA kid and
Speaker 1: he was at Louisville's.
Speaker 2: School.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and his coach was outstanding.
Speaker 4: His his dB coach does a great job, coach ellis
Speaker 4: in coaching.
Speaker 3: He got another guy here, Quincy.
Speaker 4: I forgot his last name, but he's out here too,
Speaker 4: So another Louisville corner.
Speaker 3: Can't wrong with that.
Speaker 2: I know, I know you're talking about with the name
Speaker 2: also SKATESE. Smith moment.
Speaker 1: So we'll get, we'll get, we'll edit that end, we'll
Speaker 1: do that in post. But yeah, it's it's just I
Speaker 1: thought it was funny that you got some big school
Speaker 1: names there, because like those guys to your in Europian
Speaker 1: probably should have been drafted last year, right, like they
Speaker 1: were good enough to go on Day three.
Speaker 4: It's always fascinating when you think about how small the
Speaker 4: draft is, but how big the draft is in terms
Speaker 4: of prospects. There's only it's like trying to fit a
Speaker 4: bus through the front door. Only parts of the bus
Speaker 4: is gonna get in. Doesn't mean there's not more bus
Speaker 4: out there. And that's why I love the eighth round.
Speaker 4: So the speaking terms of the undrafted free agents and
Speaker 4: those guys, because there are still a ton of good
Speaker 4: football players. You could take everybody's practice squad, make that
Speaker 4: the thirty thirty team and beat some breaks.
Speaker 3: Off some of it. So there's a lot of good
Speaker 3: football players that's not on the fifty three.
Speaker 1: I like the way you phrased that, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think that I think I saw a stat that
Speaker 1: it's like teams have first rounders, second rounders, then u
Speaker 1: DFAs are the ones that make up most of NFL rosters.
Speaker 1: So it pay attention to all these guys because they're
Speaker 1: going to be players that you're going to be hearing
Speaker 1: about down the road. And I do want to get
Speaker 1: to your sleepers here in a minute. But I've done
Speaker 1: a few of these interviews and this name has not
Speaker 1: yet come up. But you and I spoke about him
Speaker 1: last spring. I think we talked about having Ward Sanders
Speaker 1: and Jalen Milroe is our top three quarterbacks. You and
Speaker 1: I were in lockstep on that. Are you still in
Speaker 1: that frame of mind and talk about Jalen milrollt?
Speaker 4: Yes, And I'm glad you asked that because I feel
Speaker 4: like I've become the Jail and Milroe defender. But here's why,
Speaker 4: and it's I truly believe people talk about the quarterback
Speaker 4: position with aut really diving deep into it and what
Speaker 4: it entails and what I love about Jail and Milroe
Speaker 4: that we found out this year as a country. He
Speaker 4: won the Campbell Award, which the academic heisman. I am
Speaker 4: a college Football Hall of Fame voter. I'm a member
Speaker 4: of the National Football Foundation, so I've gone to a
Speaker 4: couple of these Campbell Award ceremonies. I remember one year
Speaker 4: it was a running back that was outstanding, Sam Binger
Speaker 4: from Carnegie Mellon and fantastic tailback. I called one of
Speaker 4: his games and I remember him he talking to him,
Speaker 4: talking to me after the ceremonies of men, I want
Speaker 4: to do what you don't do. Like Sam, you got
Speaker 4: a four point five in molecular biology, Go be good
Speaker 4: in life.
Speaker 3: Bro like you. You are already doing great.
Speaker 4: But that's the type of GPAs and majors you have
Speaker 4: to have to win it reachon. Is why you see
Speaker 4: schools be excited when guys are named semi finalists, like
Speaker 4: a Jackson dark right, who's a semifinalist. That's great because
Speaker 4: that's that's your competing get against everybody in the nc
Speaker 4: do PLA so D one, the D three, so Milroe
Speaker 4: starting quarterback Alabama. Campbell Award shows you how locked in
Speaker 4: he is with football and also his academics. He's a
Speaker 4: military kid, so you know, he's very disciplined with shows
Speaker 4: and him win that award and he was able to
Speaker 4: play at a high level because always see this think
Speaker 4: about mil Roe. When we first saw him at twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two, it was kind of like, I don't know
Speaker 4: if to do gonna make it to the end of
Speaker 4: the year a quarterback, you know what I'm saying, Probably
Speaker 4: gonna to play something else. Then twenty twenty three got
Speaker 4: significantly better to the point where we're like, they can't
Speaker 4: win without mill Roll. We saw the fourth quarter against Auburn,
Speaker 4: the last second fourth down throw to the touch in
Speaker 4: the back corner touchdown, and then we saw them beat
Speaker 4: Georgia in the SEC title game where he outplayed Carson
Speaker 4: back and coming into this year, people don't give him
Speaker 4: credit for breaking in a new offense, which is why
Speaker 4: we saw the inconsistency in some of the turnovers, but
Speaker 4: the touchdowns were still the same on both sides, and
Speaker 4: he still was playing.
Speaker 3: Really good football.
Speaker 4: He had this you know the you know the pockets
Speaker 4: of games where you're just like, yo, what was going on?
Speaker 4: But overall, you know this kid wants to get better,
Speaker 4: has proven he can get better and has shown you
Speaker 4: the willingness to improve, and we know he's mentally capable
Speaker 4: of being a leader, a smart guy. And I think
Speaker 4: what we're gonna hear as week goes on him interviewing
Speaker 4: very well coming out of these meets, because who wouldn't
Speaker 4: want someone that has done all of those things and
Speaker 4: also can do things athletically that a lot not a
Speaker 4: lot of people can.
Speaker 1: Do, which I think is a perfect example of maybe
Speaker 1: why he decided to come out and a guy that
Speaker 1: you know you would have confidence drafting in the middle
Speaker 1: round somewhere because if he has that type of mentality
Speaker 1: and work ethic and discipline to your point, the stuff
Speaker 1: that he can work on and refine, because it's probably
Speaker 1: going to be as a backup off the top, right,
Speaker 1: it's probably not going to be drafted as a franchise
Speaker 1: guy right off the top.
Speaker 2: I imagine that's kind of where you've come here.
Speaker 4: Because I have a gap between shadur Cam, then Jail
Speaker 4: and then Jail and Mirroll, so that like it's the
Speaker 4: second round grade for Milrod first round grades for you know,
Speaker 4: Shador and Cam. But if you wanted to sell me
Speaker 4: on late first round on mill Rod because of all
Speaker 4: the things I mentioned, I'd.
Speaker 3: Be okay, who I could buy that?
Speaker 4: Because think about what we're seeing now with Malik Willis
Speaker 4: in Green Bay. See what happens when you put someone
Speaker 4: in a nurturing environment and you allow them to cultivate
Speaker 4: their skills and you accentuate their skills with what they
Speaker 4: do well by your play calling and putting in put
Speaker 4: belief in their game. The same thing we're seeing with
Speaker 4: Tuur when he went from one coach to the next.
Speaker 4: It's like confidence. Let you go out there and play
Speaker 4: free and you're getting the best of tour. Milrod's the
Speaker 4: same way is I think you know, and we say
Speaker 4: it with movie, but let's see a lot of quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: So he may not start, but if you allow him
Speaker 4: to go and do what he did at Alabama, develop
Speaker 4: and listen anytime, all the options are covered and you
Speaker 4: could take off for seventy I mean, I kind of
Speaker 4: want that on my.
Speaker 2: Time, I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's why I feel like the Dolphins would make
Speaker 1: a lot of sense sometime on Day two because if
Speaker 1: you know, Tua, you're gonna want to get stability at
Speaker 1: back up quarterback with two as your quarterback because he's
Speaker 1: missed some time and you probably want a guy that
Speaker 1: can give you upside beyond what you offers. And when
Speaker 1: you tell me about this guy that's gonna come in here,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like work is butt off from day
Speaker 1: one and really commit to that process with the coaching
Speaker 1: staff that, by the way, has Mike McDaniel, Frank Smith,
Speaker 1: Darryl Bevell. I mean that there's just a loaded quarterback
Speaker 1: whisper group they have there, Like it makes a ton
Speaker 1: of sense to me to have him in that environment
Speaker 1: or a team like the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: I just think they're a team that would make some sense.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to have you get some perspective because,
Speaker 1: like I watched that Vanderbilt game and the way he
Speaker 1: was like layering throws between split field safety, I was like,
Speaker 1: that's that is That is not like just an afterthought throw.
Speaker 1: That's like a big time NFL throw, right, he can
Speaker 1: do that and he has to your point, seventy yard
Speaker 1: touchdnine runner Bill think.
Speaker 4: About the I'm glad you brought the Vanderbilt game because
Speaker 4: there were some throws in that game that was just like,
Speaker 4: this is what we wanted to see. That's the next step,
Speaker 4: the layering of throws, even against Auburn this year, because
Speaker 4: everything was about we know he could throw the debut.
Speaker 4: Actually he was the best deep ball passer who last year.
Speaker 4: So now we went against Auburn, we saw him layer
Speaker 4: some short throws. That's where he has to really show consistency.
Speaker 4: And the short stuff we know he get. The deep stuff,
Speaker 4: we know he could take off. Then, speaking of taking
Speaker 4: off LSU, we're in studio watching this game and as
Speaker 4: soon as it was the second long run, as soon
Speaker 4: as he hit the tackle, I like, oh, he's gone
Speaker 4: because you could see the explosiveness in turnover and he
Speaker 4: just zoom past everybody. So with that, thinking about what
Speaker 4: we always talk about with Miami, Tyreek Hill, Jalen Wattle,
Speaker 4: all the speed, speed in the backfield with a chan
Speaker 4: and right now you add a speed, explosive quarterback.
Speaker 3: Good luck.
Speaker 4: That's that's the situation you want to create. Think about
Speaker 4: why Derrick Henry had his best season with Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 4: Think about why sa Quan had his best season with
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3: You see where we're going.
Speaker 2: The NFL's going right now, exactly.
Speaker 4: Put a mover quarterback with a great tailback, great things
Speaker 4: are gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Just the I thought about a little bit in the
Speaker 1: playoff roundm like man Emory's watching this being like I
Speaker 1: told you, guys, running backs where the we're still the
Speaker 1: thing in the NFL. And yeah, I just I think
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense because while you develop him,
Speaker 1: you could have a red zone option that comes into
Speaker 1: the game. And to your point, I've got a chan,
Speaker 1: I've got Jalen Wright, I've got Tyreek, I've got Waddle,
Speaker 1: and here's Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 4: You got one dude on your team that could run
Speaker 4: full five. Good luck And so just a tidy up
Speaker 4: your point. I'm a big CFL guy, right, So the
Speaker 4: CFL does a great job in having short yardist quarterbacks,
Speaker 4: goal line quarterbacks. Saints starting to get a little bit
Speaker 4: that with Taysom Hill not saying he's Taysom Hill like
Speaker 4: we you can catch the ball, but I'm saying, like
Speaker 4: you could bring in a short yardist, red zone quarterback
Speaker 4: and still operate your offense because now you have a
Speaker 4: true quarterback.
Speaker 3: That can throw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and my w Shu Coogs did it with cam
Speaker 1: Ward and John Mattier two years ago and he's now
Speaker 1: with Oklahoma as another great product of the WHU Cougar's producer.
Speaker 1: I won't get into that too much further for you there.
Speaker 1: So I've done a lot of talk about the trenches
Speaker 1: on the show this week, Emory's. It's kind of what
Speaker 1: every wants to talk about for the Miami Dolphins. But
Speaker 1: I do want to get to the skill positions, and
Speaker 1: you know, we'll go to your alma mater of positions,
Speaker 1: if you will, your former college running back here with
Speaker 1: us on the show. I keep hearing this phrase. I
Speaker 1: want to test it with you. Is this the deepest
Speaker 1: running back class you've seen ever?
Speaker 4: I won't say ever, because that means since nineteen twenty.
Speaker 1: I will say since you've created all those classes, right, I've.
Speaker 4: Read all those shout out to Rick Grange, you know,
Speaker 4: I will say this, since the Lenard four net class.
Speaker 3: So that's Leonard Fournett, Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4: Aaron Jones, Dalvin Cook, Dalvin Cook to Rick Cohen, Kareem Hunt.
Speaker 4: So it's that type of class because even deeper down
Speaker 4: you like, Yo, they got some dudes in this one.
Speaker 3: So I like this running back class.
Speaker 4: It's the deepest one since that one, probably deeper and
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit past that because of the depth
Speaker 4: of the guys and the duality of what they can do,
Speaker 4: because of how the game is sort of continued to morph.
Speaker 3: So yes, this is a very deep running back class.
Speaker 1: Do you think Gent's in play for the Dolphins at thirteen?
Speaker 1: Would you venture to think about adding him with even
Speaker 1: though you already have a channel right like it might
Speaker 1: be a luxury pick for the Dolphins, But what do
Speaker 1: you think about that possible fit?
Speaker 4: I mean, I wouldn't I wouldn't hate it, but I
Speaker 4: will I would say if we're sticking with the theme
Speaker 4: of explosiveness, Gent wouldn't be the one I would go with,
Speaker 4: especially if you look at what potentially is in this
Speaker 4: class and think about, Okay, the Dolphins have the speed, guys,
Speaker 4: can we get sized with speed? Oli Gordon is sitting
Speaker 4: right there in rounds two or whatever, right six, one, two,
Speaker 4: twenty three and underrated explosive speed. You have guys like that,
Speaker 4: you have maybe someone that may not have the explosive
Speaker 4: speed but has the wiggle that kind of reminds me
Speaker 4: of a little bit of a Matt Forte and ja
Speaker 4: Quindon Jackson of Arkansas six one two twenty five great
Speaker 4: and pass pro catches the ball well around, you know,
Speaker 4: over his shoulders or whatnot, and does a great job
Speaker 4: on both ends of offense.
Speaker 3: You have those big guys.
Speaker 4: That that that that do a great job in outside zone,
Speaker 4: always making the right decisions, and those are backs. I
Speaker 4: think something different but with the same, within the same
Speaker 4: construct of what you want to do offensively.
Speaker 3: Jenty to me would be a gap scheme guy.
Speaker 4: You know, you throw a full back in front him.
Speaker 4: He reminds me so much of Imbosmit in that reguard,
Speaker 4: like I'd rather see him with a full back in
Speaker 4: front of him. Gap run, run downhill. But in terms
Speaker 4: of my Miami I told you this before, I'm trying
Speaker 4: to get the fastest guys on the field and trying
Speaker 4: to make this I'm trying to make you start arguing
Speaker 4: with each other by midway through the first quarter, like
Speaker 4: who got him?
Speaker 3: I went, That's what I want to create offenses.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because I have notes on my screen
Speaker 1: here for questions I'm going to ask emery and the
Speaker 1: follow up was give me guys that fit the outside zone,
Speaker 1: but also maybe a little bit of power too, because
Speaker 1: we've got him, We've got right. I kind of want
Speaker 1: that like combination back. And you just talked about a
Speaker 1: little bit there, and are there a couple more because
Speaker 1: you know, like Caleb Johnson was a guy that I
Speaker 1: thought maybe maybe made some sense in the way he
Speaker 1: could get to the perimeter for Iowa last year. I thought,
Speaker 1: name right, Kiley Johnson, and then the two Ohio state
Speaker 1: kids were guys that I was a big fan. Can
Speaker 1: you tell me about Quinn Shawn Jenkins and Trayvon Henderson
Speaker 1: because you want to explosiveness man Henderson, Buddy.
Speaker 4: I tell you what my guy, the Jay Dulsible throughout
Speaker 4: a great comfort for Jenkins that I kind of agree with.
Speaker 4: It's Josh Jacobs. They kind of the same guy. One
Speaker 4: cut downhill physical runner. Henderson to me is like, listen
Speaker 4: to jazz music. It's just so light on his feet.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like it's just like you. It's almost
Speaker 4: like you rather watch his highlights with a glass of
Speaker 4: cabernet and some jazz plank because this is smooth, right,
Speaker 4: and so.
Speaker 2: Judkins is heavy metal and Whiskey heavy medal of.
Speaker 4: Whiskey and Dan Campbell sitting there egging you on, right.
Speaker 4: So that's this type of a running back he is.
Speaker 4: But with Henderson, Henderson kind of rounded out his game
Speaker 4: this year. Man, you saw him be better as a
Speaker 4: runner because he always had pass pro, which is a
Speaker 4: great skill to have coming into the league, and he
Speaker 4: catched football and we know about his speed and agility,
Speaker 4: but I like that he became a little bit more
Speaker 4: decisive as a runner, taking the free yards and then
Speaker 4: the big yards happened because of that, and that's where
Speaker 4: he was able to grow his game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Rose Bowl was fun to watch. I love
Speaker 1: the Josh Jacobs comparison Becau. I've talked a little about
Speaker 1: how the Packers were a team that runs the Shanahan
Speaker 1: system or a variation of it, and they go out
Speaker 1: and they get their running back to your point about Saquon,
Speaker 1: about Derrick Henry, about now Josh Jacobs in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: and they added that power element to their football team
Speaker 1: and I thought it was a great compliment. So I
Speaker 1: think Miami would would do well to invest in something
Speaker 1: to that effect. Let's go I hadn't pivot now to
Speaker 1: the receiver class, and we heard about Tyreek Hills off
Speaker 1: he's in wrist surgery that he had not going to
Speaker 1: be catching footballs. He will be working out all off
Speaker 1: season besides catching the ball. Jalen Waddles obviously in to
Speaker 1: with the contract here as well. Malik Washington was a
Speaker 1: big hit for us last year. You know, I think
Speaker 1: that if you're looking for a receiver in this year's class,
Speaker 1: to me, it probably probably is a bigger body. But
Speaker 1: also we don't we don't misiscriminate against speed either.
Speaker 2: We love speed.
Speaker 1: So what do you think about that dynamic of how
Speaker 1: the Dolphins receiver's room might be made up and who
Speaker 1: might be a guy that you like in that fit?
Speaker 4: Listen, I can't wait to see how he runs because
Speaker 4: I'm excited about him, and he kind of fits what
Speaker 4: we talked about in Miami because he could do more
Speaker 4: than one thing.
Speaker 3: Might even be your shut Your art is back? How
Speaker 3: about saving I Williams got a TCU.
Speaker 2: You're talking about language? I love saving insane five.
Speaker 4: You know we know he can get vertical. No, he's
Speaker 4: a catch and run threat. He could play inside or outside.
Speaker 4: But I love that in you know, third and short
Speaker 4: goal line whatever. They put him in the backfield quarter
Speaker 4: he's or a tailback. He's running right down at A
Speaker 4: and B gap and ripping off sixty plus yard runs.
Speaker 4: Like making guys. It's kind of like Carderol Patterson reincarnated.
Speaker 4: I won't say Ryn carnacause he's still here, but you
Speaker 4: know what Patterson was as a prospect.
Speaker 3: He's able to do similar things.
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I can't wait to see what he
Speaker 4: runs at that size doing those things.
Speaker 3: That's special.
Speaker 4: To be able to have the cuts of someone that's
Speaker 4: five to eleven but you're staying six four six five is great.
Speaker 4: I would also toss in, you know, I know people
Speaker 4: look at Tetero McMillan as Yeah, maybe I don't know
Speaker 4: if he's the first round. I just like how they
Speaker 4: use him at Arizona playing inside or out. You know,
Speaker 4: he's a catch and run guy, able to really, you know,
Speaker 4: take a short pass and go a long way because
Speaker 4: he's weaving in out of traffic like a New York cab.
Speaker 4: I love that about his game as well. So there's
Speaker 4: some dudes stylistically that I feel like can fit the
Speaker 4: Dolphins and when you look at it, he's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: what do we have? What can we add that does
Speaker 4: what we do? And I think this is something that
Speaker 4: kind of fits in what Miami kind of does and
Speaker 4: gives him a little bit different look than what they
Speaker 4: already have on the roster.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because you know we're gonna talk about tight
Speaker 1: ends here. I'm a big fan of Tyler Warren off
Speaker 1: the top, and a lot of that is because he
Speaker 1: can I think he can be your short yard answer
Speaker 1: in an area that Miami has to get better at.
Speaker 1: But watching Save You on Williams Man, he does the
Speaker 1: wildcat stuff. He can spin off of a guy and
Speaker 1: run away from him. He can hurtle like it's it's
Speaker 1: so much fun to watch. I'm so glad you mentioned
Speaker 1: that name. We are in lockstep there once again, my
Speaker 1: friend tight end position. So do you share the same
Speaker 1: sentiment about Warren. I know that's not really not that
Speaker 1: you don't do the top of the class, but you're
Speaker 1: more of our sleeper guy. But tell me about the
Speaker 1: tight end class here and do you think Warren would
Speaker 1: make sense?
Speaker 2: It picked thirteen.
Speaker 4: Tight end class is really good, Like there's no nuance
Speaker 4: about this, A really good class, like the running back class,
Speaker 4: and because we're starting to see teams. We talked about
Speaker 4: this a couple of years ago where I think you
Speaker 4: asked a question while we're seeing so many good tight
Speaker 4: ends coming from small schools, and I told you it
Speaker 4: was like, well, because you've got the taller, a step slower,
Speaker 4: skinnier receivers that are getting picked up by the They
Speaker 4: tournament's tight ends. And now you have these athletic guys
Speaker 4: that can run because they were receivers in high school.
Speaker 4: So we've seen the position bloom and blossom. But for Warren,
Speaker 4: we just talked about red zone right, red zone heavy
Speaker 4: on this Pott. We talked about Jellow mill Roe, we
Speaker 4: talked about Savi Williams. Warren is right there because we
Speaker 4: see how Penn State used in Pens State understands you
Speaker 4: are our best offensive player. We're gonna get you the football,
Speaker 4: We're gonna put you on offense and let you do
Speaker 4: offensive things. And so him being a wildcat quarterback that
Speaker 4: can throw gives you a whole new dynamic as a
Speaker 4: heightened him being a route runner is and as fluid
Speaker 4: as he can be dynamic with the ball in his hands,
Speaker 4: he's to me, he's sort of like and not because
Speaker 4: they were the same number, but Dallas Clark. Same type
Speaker 4: of guy, same type of he should be moving that fast.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's that fast, but he's out running
Speaker 4: by linebacker, he's always open, he catches through contact.
Speaker 3: That's a really good prospect.
Speaker 4: I'm glad people are feeling comfortable and putting him high
Speaker 4: in the draft because that's the type of guys you
Speaker 4: take in first round, those obvious impact players.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he makes a lot of sense for the
Speaker 1: way he can impact the edge in the outside his
Speaker 1: own game, the way he can catch the football, and
Speaker 1: he's not like a shaky route runner, but he gets open.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's really sop.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's all you need, a little bit of space.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all it takes. Man.
Speaker 1: So looking forward to see what happens there, I think
Speaker 1: it goes before the Dolphins quite frankly, but we'll see
Speaker 1: if he makes it there. Let's close with the cornerback position, Emery,
Speaker 1: because we saw the Dolphins release Kendall Fuller a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks back.
Speaker 2: Right now, we've got Jillen Ramsey and.
Speaker 1: Cater Coo, who had his best year as or pro
Speaker 1: by the way, he was out standing in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: What do you think about a possible corner for the
Speaker 1: Dolphins here? Maybe later in the draftic of thinking.
Speaker 4: About I will say I got a couple guys listed.
Speaker 4: Isis Waxer, who's here at the combine out of Villanova.
Speaker 4: I called this game against Mamath and in the press
Speaker 4: box I see like twelve NFL scouts there and I'm
Speaker 4: thinking they're there for Mama's running back Tony Into who's
Speaker 4: five eleven, two thirty five that had like thirty touchdowns
Speaker 4: this year or something crazy. It was thirty like one
Speaker 4: yard toeschdowns. But he was a show. He was a
Speaker 4: wild quarterback and just pounding it. So he's an NFL prospect.
Speaker 4: Probably see him on the Dolphins as well too. But
Speaker 4: there was that Sea Waxer, and wax was a big corner.
Speaker 4: Cameron match physical press skills, and he was doing the
Speaker 4: same things at the Shrine game as well. So I'm
Speaker 4: glad to see him go there excel and now he's
Speaker 4: here is to see how he runs.
Speaker 3: Here's a couple of names.
Speaker 4: I said this before the season, Kansas has the best
Speaker 4: duo of corners in college football easily in the Big twelve,
Speaker 4: and that's Melo Dotson and Kobe Bryant. Melo Dotson has
Speaker 4: great ball skills, ball aware, and his ball instincts will
Speaker 4: turn the ball over.
Speaker 3: In a heartbeat.
Speaker 4: Bryant I was shocked at the shrine that he measured
Speaker 4: in at his size, not in a negative way. It
Speaker 4: was like, wow, I thought he was He told me
Speaker 4: he was six two two twenty. I believe that that's
Speaker 4: how he plays. He's five eleven one seventy five, plays
Speaker 4: way bigger than his size and is feisty, aggressive, another
Speaker 4: one that attacks the ball. Those two dudes are gonna
Speaker 4: be fantastic corners that can give you some versatilely playing
Speaker 4: insider out and a sleeper. Carlin Vigors of ul Monroe
Speaker 4: six one one eight five had a great Hula Bowl week.
Speaker 4: You'll watch your game against Texas. You see him handle
Speaker 4: one of those Texas receivers rather well. That says a lot.
Speaker 4: And I was just at the AHVC Legacy Bowl last weekend.
Speaker 4: Robert McDaniel out of Jackson State defensive back could play
Speaker 4: safety but can cover six two two thirteen, ran four
Speaker 4: to five, jump ten eight on a broad jump had
Speaker 4: the thirty and a half ins vertical outstanding defender.
Speaker 1: You can find guys anywhere. Man, did the numbers? You're
Speaker 1: listening here about these kids? Like why are they not
Speaker 1: at Ohio State or playing football?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like it is crazy to
Speaker 2: hear that those measurements.
Speaker 1: And once again, Emory, you've done it for us here,
Speaker 1: providing us all kinds of great content.
Speaker 2: What about twenty minutes with you?
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that time you gave us here, Emory,
Speaker 1: CBS Sports HQ.
Speaker 2: What's the week looking like for you? What are you
Speaker 2: working on? Working the folks find a.
Speaker 3: Still working on the draft guy? Man, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's the largest draft guy in existence football gameplan dot
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Speaker 3: You've seen the draft guy.
Speaker 4: It's beneficial not only to begin the season draft regular
Speaker 4: season gods pop in and off the like who the
Speaker 4: hell is this tight end we just got from Joe
Speaker 4: Blow State? Oh Emory has a report from Joe Blowstate
Speaker 4: on this tight end we just got. So and it
Speaker 4: helps you become a more knowledgeable fan. I always it's
Speaker 4: a labor of love. It's very intensive, uh and so,
Speaker 4: but I love doing it because on the back end,
Speaker 4: I know it tests the table for the NFL season,
Speaker 4: CFL season, UFL season. A lot of these guys go
Speaker 4: elsewhere and play even in European League of Football. We
Speaker 4: got touched, we got we got bodies out there as
Speaker 4: well too. So Football gameplan dot Com say's twenty twenty
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Speaker 4: on here. But also always want to see.
Speaker 1: Who run fast, great stuff. As always, he'll make you
Speaker 1: a smarter football fan. Dolphins and Emory Hunt appreciate your
Speaker 1: time today, man, Thank you again, thank you.
Speaker 3: As always.
Speaker 1: That's a man that knows his value and what he
Speaker 1: offers in the draft space. And he's not wrong. I
Speaker 1: mean the draft guy that he produces and the value
Speaker 1: for you know, everyone talks about these, you know, top
Speaker 1: twenty fifty one hundred prospects, but Emory takes you three
Speaker 1: hundred deep every single year and gives you a good
Speaker 1: feeling about you know what you might add at the
Speaker 1: cutdown day in September when rosters are being finalized, So
Speaker 1: check out his work in the meantime.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be my time.
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