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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments

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Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment

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Speaker 1: last stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is

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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. Really, Matt, what is something that you

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Speaker 1: think is over it? This is a little abstract, but

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Speaker 1: I think having cool taste is overrated, and this is

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Speaker 1: related to liking Pattington. I think that too many people,

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Speaker 1: especially in Los Angeles or wherever, are obsessed with having

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Speaker 1: the most obscure, interesting taste and what it creates as

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Speaker 1: a shame culture where you feel ashamed of things that

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Speaker 1: you might get joy from that aren't cool, and I

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Speaker 1: think we should get over that. Do you have a

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Speaker 1: do you have an example of something else you've felt

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Speaker 1: shame about liking? Um, Well, this one is now a

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Speaker 1: little complicated because our new pub look persona. But Taylor Swift,

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Speaker 1: for a long time was someone that I really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: her music, her album. Now it's she's like kind of

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Speaker 1: maybe not the best person or whatever is going on

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Speaker 1: with her, But I felt a lot of shame for

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Speaker 1: liking Taylor Swift from what do you think of the

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Speaker 1: song shake It Off. I like, like I've taken a

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Speaker 1: lot of ship for really, uh standing up for that song. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's a great song. You gotta

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Speaker 1: stand ford what you believe in Jack. I didn't. You

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Speaker 1: know the reason why we haven't seen Jack shirtless because

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Speaker 1: he has all the lyrics tattooed along with the big

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Speaker 1: Eagle for some Bloe Kim uh first generation Korean or

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Speaker 1: second generation Korean, depending on So this is the main

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Speaker 1: thing I want to talk about is the fact that

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Speaker 1: there's no agreed on definition of first generation Korean. I

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Speaker 1: thought I assumed first generation meant that you were the

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Speaker 1: first generation that was born in the United States. Uh,

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Speaker 1: my wife is first generation Korean, like Chloe Kim Uh.

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Speaker 1: And apparently that's not an agreed on thing because I

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Speaker 1: saw somebody referring to Chloe Kim as second generation and

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Speaker 1: her parents who immigrated here as first generation American. Let's

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Speaker 1: just make up our minds, guys. Come on, Yeah, wait,

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Speaker 1: so there's no like dictionary definition of what counts. No,

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Speaker 1: when you go to a Wikipedia, they say first generation

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Speaker 1: means one of two completely conflicting things. Because in Japanese,

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Speaker 1: I'm considered niss, which is a person born in the

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Speaker 1: US whose parents are from Japan. Yeah, and that's considered

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Speaker 1: second generation. But I'm like, but aren't I the first?

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Speaker 1: You feel like it's about your birthright immate, So I

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Speaker 1: don't know, man, what there's such a robust racist lexicon

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Speaker 1: in every culture. Um, But anyways, she crushed it. She

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Speaker 1: was basically already had the gold medal locked away, and

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Speaker 1: then she was like, you know, I really didn't want

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Speaker 1: to come here air and just win gold without doing

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Speaker 1: my best, and so she put up a final run

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Speaker 1: that like scored a ninety eight or something like that.

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Speaker 1: She blacked out because I think the one I think

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Speaker 1: it's a Chinese snowboarder who was the only the closest

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Speaker 1: person with a presh on her and when she fucked

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Speaker 1: up her last trick, it was in the bag. And

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Speaker 1: then she went and she was like, alright, fuck it,

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Speaker 1: let me show you how Chloe Kim does. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was. She had backed back ten eighty degree spins,

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Speaker 1: which again I'm not good enough at math to figure

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Speaker 1: not throw up on themselves. You can see why they

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Speaker 1: came up with euphemisms. And she's doing one to three spins,

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Speaker 1: three three, she did back to back three air spins

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Speaker 1: I was an Olympics commentator. Sometimes they get too thick

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Speaker 1: with the lingo though, yeah, where I'm just like, what

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Speaker 1: the fund does that mean? You're like me into nosebone?

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Speaker 1: I mean that ship looked dope. I don't know a

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Speaker 1: rodeo flip is, but but both her and Sean White, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the flying Tomato both looked like we we talked yesterday

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Speaker 1: cows just I'm spinning out of it. And that is

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Speaker 1: my expert commentary on stoboard. But yeah, shout out to

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Speaker 1: Chloe Can. I can't imagine that it was an easy

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Speaker 1: what school did she go to? Like? What, she's seven? School? Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, Uh, well, should be Harvard. I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: that's why we don't talking to get her into Harvard.

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Speaker 1: She's like I love this that guy still So just

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Speaker 1: a developing story is over the weekend, and towards the

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Speaker 1: end of last week, one of Trump's main dudes, Rob Porter,

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Speaker 1: would go back to John Kelly and be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: so I'm having second thoughts about resigning. He was like, no,

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Speaker 1: you're you're fired, Like you have to leave. He was

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Speaker 1: like all right, and he's like, so I'll just take

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Speaker 1: Kelly's like, no, you like need to be out of here,

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Speaker 1: like you're making me look really bad. And then like

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Speaker 1: the next day he's still like gathering a stuff from

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Speaker 1: his desk and he's just like, uh, but anyways, this

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Speaker 1: guy's a human monster who apparently like physically abused two

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Speaker 1: of his ex wives and um, yeah, really just like

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Speaker 1: horrifying testimony from them. And it's wild how the White

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Speaker 1: come out and aggressively like we have a zero toalrance policy.

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Speaker 1: It's literally the easiest thing in the world to just

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Speaker 1: be like that was bad, he should go. And that's

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Speaker 1: essentially what they finally got around to doing yesterday on

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Speaker 1: the you know, Sunday morning talk shows, they kind of

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Speaker 1: it's unacceptable. Uh and you know that's what the president thinks.

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Speaker 1: But man, the President on Twitter did not give that impression.

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Speaker 1: At all. He the only thing he tweeted about with

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Speaker 1: no do process anymore? People's lives are being ruined over allegations.

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Speaker 1: Uh I saw that tweet. I feel like every time

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Speaker 1: double check whether it's real. I'm always like, is this

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Speaker 1: a parody account? Please? He didn't say, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: no he did. Right, It's like the Gorilla Channel thing

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Speaker 1: with pixelated boat. It's like, it's hard to know, but

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Speaker 1: I guess that makes sense for somebody who has his

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Speaker 1: own horrible history to deal with that. Of Course, he

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Speaker 1: because then the conversation would neverely be like, okay, now

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Speaker 1: is well, these allegations many And it's also just a

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Speaker 1: like it's just like, well, is this person my friend,

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Speaker 1: then they're a good person, and you know, I think

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Speaker 1: that works in business, especially when you have like a

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Speaker 1: from your father. But uh, it's just he's not up

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts. I don't know if anyone's noticed, but it's

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Speaker 1: it's interesting because this is a thing that we tend

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Speaker 1: from a PR perspective, just completely outrageous, and it overshadows

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Speaker 1: there was a second member of his Uh. I guess

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Speaker 1: I don't know if speech writers are considered cabinet members,

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Speaker 1: anything up, so we we should really reconsider. This is

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Speaker 1: a very sensitive document. It's just like the selective outrages.

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Speaker 1: now there's like four options. Someone can yolo it on

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Speaker 1: override the president. Paul Ryan will do that, and or

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Speaker 1: could be the one wait redacted like the Republican memo,

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Speaker 1: they did sort of relent and then redact certain things

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Speaker 1: like that, certain details, certain details. Um, but with this one,

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Speaker 1: they're saying like, we can just do the same process,

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00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: stories about a mass shooting Yeah, it's weird because we

428
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: see it so much, like we're even predicting the coverage now.

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Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, on Fox, they're gonna say, oh wow,

430
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Speaker 1: we're talking about gun control suddenly, and then on like

431
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: MSNBC or CNN, it's going to be about maybe gun

432
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: control or but also like really personal stories about the

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Speaker 1: victims and and people who survived and things like that.

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Speaker 1: And like, I don't know even since we've started doing

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00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: the show how many shootings there have been. Some we

436
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: haven't even reported, because to an extent, we've kind of

437
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: normalized these things as the country which is really fucked up.

438
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: And then now I just feel like the coverage and

439
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: our attitudes, like are they going to shift now? Like

440
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: can we then sort of make this more about how

441
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: we are going to solve this problem? Then sort of

442
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: like begin finger pointing, because that happened immediately, it's just

443
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: finger pointing rather than how do we move forward? How

444
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: do we make sure this doesn't happen again? Yeah. One

445
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: thing specifically about the coverage that I think it's interesting

446
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: is they're these experts who like on social contagion and violence.

447
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: They're like forensic experts who study like the aftermaths of

448
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: these sorts of shootings, and they're desperately begging every time

449
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: there's a mass shooting, they're begging and like putting out

450
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: these petitions that are signed by thousands of experts to

451
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: not show the shooters picture and not say their name.

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00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: You can say everything, all the biographical details, you can

453
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: give all the details, but just don't make right. Don't

454
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: make them into anti heroes. Don't make them into anti

455
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: heroes exactly. Yeah. The problem with the coverages that the

456
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: coverage is monetized, and so the American culture doesn't have

457
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: the self control to not want to know those details.

458
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: There's just something fucked up where it's like you kind

459
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: of want to know what he looks like, even if

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00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: you know that's wrong, and news organizations know that, and

461
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: so it's like who will be the bigger man here?

462
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: And it's like nobody is being game. There was a

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00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: sheriff in Oregon who basically was like, look, I don't

464
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: want to say the guy's name. I don't want to,

465
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, show his picture. It was a school shooting

466
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: just similar to this one, and the Washington Post of

467
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: all people were like, no, like, we we need to

468
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: tell people what they want to know. This is censorship,

469
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: and these experts are pointing out like when there is

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Speaker 1: a streaker at a professional athletic he goes off, he

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00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: goes off, They turn away because otherwise, you know, they

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00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: don't want to encourage these people who are clearly like

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Speaker 1: doing a stupid thing just to get their face in

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00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: front of millions of people. They just you know, know

475
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Speaker 1: that that that showing them would encourage it. And granted,

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Speaker 1: like I've watched games where I'm like, damn, i want

477
00:27:53,760 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: to see the streaker, like, yeah, exactly, Like watching streakers

478
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: run around and evade security guards is one of the

479
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: most fun things you can see at a live sporting

480
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: It's good television. But they actually resist showing it because

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Speaker 1: it's the responsible thing to do, and it's like avoids

482
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: creating chasts, and the mainstream media at large just can't.

483
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: Like this is a huge event. This is like a

484
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: super Bowl for mass media. So that's one thing that

485
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: I think could help. But but the thing too is

486
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: like I mean there are now, you know, news organizations

487
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: that make money through subscription a little more on the internet,

488
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: but it's all click based money, and so there's just

489
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: a huge incentive to get the most clicks, and it's

490
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: just watering down journalism. It's not who has the best journalism,

491
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: it's like who gets the most attention. Who can package

492
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: this in a way that makes its the most clicks? Yeah? Right,

493
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: but so yeah, when you look around I mean Fox

494
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: Laura Ingram on her show, she after starting the show

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Speaker 1: talking about the shooting, took six minutes, a whole six

496
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Speaker 1: minutes out of her show to talk about how safe

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00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: the A R fifteen is, the weapon that was used.

498
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: It's crazy because Chris Murphy uh, immediately on the floor

499
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: is like, we need to do something, like when are

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Speaker 1: we gonna do something about you know, gun control reform,

501
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: and then she goes, I don't know. I mean, look

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Speaker 1: the A R fifteen. Let's just play so we can hear.

503
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: This is what's happening on Fox News in the aftermath

504
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 1: of this shooting. Let's look at the AIR fifteen. What

505
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: makes it so popular and overwhelmingly, what makes it so safe.

506
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: It's all over the country because it's a really good

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00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: self defense weapon. I would have one in my home

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00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: for home defense. I thousands of people have them in

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00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: their home because it shoots very straight. Uh, you can

510
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: carry more ammunition in it, and it's actually safer because

511
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have less like the less you're gonna have

512
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: a lower stiff to pardon me, I'm teaching a course

513
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: in Hebrew and now some all over the place. You

514
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: have a less likelihood of of sporadic fire or hitting

515
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: innocent people if you're using it for home defense because

516
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: it shoots really straight. So it's actually a very safe weapon.

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00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: It's easier to shoot than the pist tool. It's got

518
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Speaker 1: more points of contacts for stability. But in the in

519
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: the hands of the wrong person. And again, where was

520
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: the parents? Where? What was the homeline for this show?

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00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: There's so much more involved than the weapons by Chris

522
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: is so far out of Aaron will we There are

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00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: some things we've learned. His mother died last year. He

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00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: was adopted um his parents Linda Linda and Roger cruz Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's followed, apparently, according to Trace Gallagher, the Iraqi fighters

526
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: online and the Syrian Resistance. Now maybe he was just

527
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: following them, I guess, because it was curious. Why we

528
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: don't know more, But there's something, something, something going on there.

529
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: So we will learn more about something something, something going

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00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: on there. So they managed in one thing to avoid

531
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: time out gun control by saying, well, it's the parents fault.

532
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: It could also be ISIS fault, but not the gun

533
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: because it's the safest gun ever, because what I guess,

534
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: it shoots straight in the right hands. It's the safest

535
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: thing when it I mean, if all those kids had

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Speaker 1: had air fIF teens at school then, which is only

537
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: like three of them would have gotten shot at recess

538
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: that day. Uh. It's just frustrating because well also, first

539
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: of all, the right wing was very eager to uh

540
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: associate him with ISIS and yeah, and it turns out

541
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: he trained with white nationalist groups. Uh so he went

542
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: to one training. I mean, but the guy did confirm

543
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: from the Florida Republic, which is a white civil rights group,

544
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: that yes, when are people going to fight for our

545
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: civil rights? I say, um, but it's the guns, Like

546
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: there's unless you just don't believe in statistics, there's no

547
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: way to argue that it's not the guns. They plot

548
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: like number of mass shootings on a graph with number

549
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: of guns owned in the country, and it like exactly correlates,

550
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: Whereas if you look at things like mental health, which

551
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: is what the media likes to point to uh, mental

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00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: health spending, mental health problems. All mental health indicators are

553
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: equal in like countries like you know, Australia, the UK, Denmark,

554
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: like all these other countries, France, Uh, you know, all

555
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: these advanced countries are pretty similar to each other when

556
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: it comes to all the mental health indicators. The only

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00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: place that the U S stands out is gun ownership

558
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: and mass shootings. And the only other country that is

559
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 1: close to us with regards to gun ownership is also

560
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: like has a lot of mass shootings. So it is,

561
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about because there's such fatigue

562
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: around It's like this happens every time, and then the

563
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: same statistics are stated every time, and it's like, I

564
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: don't know it's true. I mean like we're even getting

565
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: caught in the trap of the same trying to like

566
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: walk this logical path towards well with all these things.

567
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: Knowing all this, then yes we need to address guns,

568
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: but it really doesn't mean a fucking thing if the

569
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Speaker 1: legislators that are elected don't put forward bills and vote

570
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: on them to actually enact any kind of chance, because

571
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: we're I think the only answers that continue to go

572
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: over and over again because that's yeah, or just hold

573
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: these people accountable to who are making the laws though too,

574
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: like it's easy for them to, you know, hide under

575
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: the fray that's going on because we everyone's so outraged

576
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: and talks about all the whether it's gun control, whatever

577
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: it's like, But what about the people who actually have

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00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: the power to do something. Yeah, well, and the dark

579
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: morbid thing that will eventually happen and not I'm not

580
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: sy is that a legislator's kid will get shot in

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00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: a mass shooting and then suddenly they'll give a shit

582
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: about this. You know. Well, because when you even look

583
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: at like Florida for example, if you really want to

584
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: do something, then I think we have to think about

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00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: who we are electing into office because the Republicans in

586
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: the Judiciary Committee in the Florida House of Representatives, they

587
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: have like a stranglehold. Like the numbers are clearly laid

588
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: out that pro gun right Republicans dominate the state legislature,

589
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: and they are passing bills left like they just passed

590
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: one last week that's basically said that a person who

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00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: has like a concealed carry permit doesn't violate the law

592
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: if the firearm is quote temporarily and openly displayed. So

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00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: what they were trying to do is protect people who

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00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: had concealed carry laws, Like if someone saw it and

595
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: called the police on them, they would be written up

596
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: because like, you're not doing this right. So they built

597
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: a lot to protect people to sloppily carry a concealed weapon.

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00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: That is like just basically an n R A wish

599
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: list piece of legislation. And you look at how easy

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00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: it is to even procure a firearm in that state.

601
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: You have to be twenty one to buy a handgun,

602
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: but this kid wasn't, so the only thing they could

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00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: sell them was a fucking a R fifteen, Right, that's

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00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: what a gun store owner says. I believe the reason

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Speaker 1: he used an Air fifteen is because he is under

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Speaker 1: twenty one, and you cannot purchase a firearm other than

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Speaker 1: a long gun legally. So he went and it's like

608
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: a liquor store refusing to sell you beer but offering

609
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: you crystal meth instead, because he went and he couldn't

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00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: get a handgun, but he got an Air fifteen, which is,

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00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, the gun that has been used in all

612
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: these mass shootings. And this was somebody who openly said

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00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: he wanted to be a professional mass shooter, which makes

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00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: it even crazy because it seemed preventable in so many ways,

615
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 1: because even the kids who were being interviewed were saying

616
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: when he got kicked out, people were joking about how, like, yo,

617
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: he might come back, or why she like joking like, oh,

618
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 1: he might shoot up the place, And the students even

619
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: sort of they sensed that, and and again this was something,

620
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: This is a thing that is preventable on many levels.

621
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: So if you want to take it the mental health route,

622
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: then let's do that. Let's have a real conversation about

623
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: mental illness in this country and bring it on the

624
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: open so it's not so stigmatized for people to even

625
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: think like, oh, I don't want to out myself as

626
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: someone who has a mental health issue because I don't

627
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: want to embarrass myself or shame myself. You know, one

628
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: of the initial trus budgets that he put out last

629
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: year slashed like mental health care, and that is the

630
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: thing we spend the most on in this country, even

631
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: before like cardiac health is. Mental health is by far

632
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: the largest piece of spending that healthcare providers mate. So

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00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: I don't know anything having to do with changing the

634
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: conversation of mental health just seems like fully, But I'm saying,

635
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: if you want to do that, do that as part

636
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: of the thing, but also really shore that up, like

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00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: because what happens is it's a mental health thing, and

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00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: they just say that to avoid doing anything, and like

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00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: it's treated like, well, let's store our hands up at

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Speaker 1: the end, it's a mental well look then come at

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00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: it from every angle, from a gun control aspect, from

642
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: a mental health aspect, if there really is that much

643
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: to be done, because yeah, you can tell, Like even

644
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: with on CNN, they interviewed a kid who went to

645
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: the high school who got out of the shooting, and

646
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: he said, Oh, what do you want to say? And

647
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: he was like, look, I'm just a kid. Like we

648
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: need the adults to like make laws that will actually

649
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: prevent this. And if that's even being seen from the

650
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: viewpoint of a kid, I don't know why we still

651
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: are allowing people to sort of like weasel their way

652
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: out of It's really embarrassing. Yeah, I feel embarrassed about

653
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: this issue because it's so obvious. It's difficult. What needs

654
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: to happen is like monumental change, like disarming America. That's intense.

655
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: There's like so many guns in America, it will be

656
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: that's impossible. It will be a decades long process, but

657
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: like you have to That's the issue too, is like

658
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: they're the legislators who begin this process won't be alive

659
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: by the time it's solved, so there's like not an

660
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: incentive to like take action. I think. Right, Yeah, I'm

661
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: reading this book Better Angels of Our Nature that I'm

662
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: required to raise once every episode, just this very book. Yeah,

663
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: but it's about the fact that, uh, you know, civilization

664
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Speaker 1: has brought down the rate of violent crime and murder

665
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: among the human race from like for every a hundred

666
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: thousand people alive every year back like in the caveman

667
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: days and you know in Biblical times. If you he

668
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: just goes through the Bible and like outlines how fucking

669
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: horrifying and violent life was that they depict. But he

670
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: shows that, you know, violent crime and violent deaths have

671
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: gone down to like a minuscule level, and it's just

672
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: been people basically, you know, being brought under the rule

673
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: of governments who they are willing to you know, seed

674
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: some control to and most of these Western countries who

675
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: are comparing America to uh, have let their government take

676
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: away their guns. The only difference between America and these

677
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: other countries is just that Americans they basically formed a

678
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: government when they weren't quite ready to give up their guns,

679
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: and so they still have these massive numbers of guns.

680
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: And also guns back then were like not they took

681
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: a long time below right, and I mean the inventor

682
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: of the gun has come out or his family, I guess,

683
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: has come out and said he specifically would not have

684
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: wanted this gun at all to be in civilian hands,

685
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: and the idea that it would be would just be

686
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: like shocking to him, like uh, you know. This was

687
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: initially invented to be America's answer to the a K

688
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: forty seven in battle, but then a gun manufacturer by

689
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: the name of Coult got their hands on it and

690
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: they rebranded it as the Sporter as like a fun

691
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: toy and now you can get it in pink for

692
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: your lady from Valentine's Day. Um, so you know, only

693
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: to protect your home, you know, in the case of

694
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: vietcom come from you want to be exactly, you want

695
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: to be stylish while you're protecting your children. We wanted

696
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: to name some of our favorites or our favorite and

697
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: maybe least favorite romcom tropes. Uh so favorite romcom go Jack?

698
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: Uh prior notting Hill or something about Mary if you

699
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: let Me, if you allow it, it's not and it's

700
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: a full blown comedy. Yeah, yeah, totally. There's about a

701
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: guy getting a girl. Yeah, and it's called There's Something

702
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: about Mary. Yeah. So absolutely a romantic comedy, isn't it.

703
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean there's yeah see and I've been saying

704
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: that the whole time. So that's my favorite favorite love actually,

705
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: even though it's by the same guy. Did notting Hill

706
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: not a big fan of love actually, actually, what's your pick?

707
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: What is my pick? What is my pick? Oh? I love?

708
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you guys have forgot it. Here

709
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: there's an old Pride and Prejudice, Not the Cira Nightly one,

710
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: there's another one. It was the original one Colin Firth

711
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: became famous for. In it, there's a famous scene where

712
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: he gets out of the lake and it's like, oh,

713
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: grumpily shake some water off of himself. And I always

714
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: like that one because afterwards you can't help but start

715
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: speaking exactly like this a hill time. It's very hard

716
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: not start speaking in English and it's all about manners

717
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: and it's sort of like looking at someone across the

718
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: crowded dance hall. But the dancing is really unenergetic and sexy.

719
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: It's just walking up, shaking your shoulders, walking back, and

720
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: it's just that sort of like back in the day

721
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: dancing and it's it's all eyes and Mr Darcy, do

722
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: you think that for three pounds a year, I'm going

723
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Speaker 1: to marry someone? Like? It's that sort of yeah, And

724
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: I really like that sort of old They're doing a

725
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: lot with just their eyes and a few manners, which

726
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: I think it's very interesting and you still get as

727
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: much from it. Miles. Oh, I think one fine Day,

728
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: what's one fine day again? One Fine Day is with

729
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: Michelle Peiffer and George Clooney where they're, you know, just

730
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: single parents trying to take their kids to daycare and

731
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: but they're also bouncing their their careers at the same time.

732
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: I don't know why do they do it? I think

733
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. It could be nostalgia is like one

734
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: of the first dates I went on, like in sixth grade,

735
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: Like I took my sixth grade girlfriend to see and

736
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: I felt like an adult. This is one fine day,

737
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: and it also made me think New York was the

738
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: coolest place ever. What is sixth grade age wise? What

739
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: twelve years old? Twelve? If you brought a girl to

740
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: the cinema smiles your little legend, coke and everything. Oh

741
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: my god, that's fairly advantis you know. I took an

742
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: eighth grader once when I was sixth grade to see

743
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: bas Lerman's Romeo and Juliet. Oh my god, so you

744
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: know I'm out here. Yeah, as they would say, that's

745
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: too advanced, that's almost child services, little suspicious of you.

746
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: You know, Some say I was the original pickup artist.

747
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, who was that? Some who would say

748
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: mostly in a sort of drug adult like drug psychosis.

749
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: But yes, that is me when Harry met Sally. Can

750
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: I throw that into the mix? Yes? Yeah. Trope wise, though,

751
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: it always starts off with some level of deception, like

752
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm an undercover journalist or like I'm not a ship

753
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: bag or whatever, and then they're like, wait, I'm into

754
00:42:52,880 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: deep relationship. I guess tu. Yeah, You're like, man, well

755
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: I'm really on top of my Just In general, I

756
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: think the most misleading it's necessary for the purposes of

757
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: all romantic comedies. But the most misleading trope in romantic

758
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: comedies is that dating is like really hard and like

759
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: because dating is the easy part if you're like in

760
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: a relationship with somebody who's like the one, whereas like,

761
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, a successful relationship years down the road is difficult.

762
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: But like dating is they have to like throw all

763
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: these obstacles in the way of like people who are

764
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: in love with each other, like you know, a bet

765
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: or you know one of them being an undercover journalist

766
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: who is just doing research on them, or my other

767
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: least favorite trope is, uh that rape is a funny prank,

768
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: Like in Revenge of the Nerds and Wedding Crashers, he

769
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: ties him up. Yeah, he ties them up and like

770
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: has like a yeah, he's like kissing on Vince Vaughan,

771
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: like the brother right, don't remember that. But isn't that

772
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: though there's loads it, Well, this is what happens with

773
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: me to campaign. You go, no, it never happened to me.

774
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: Oh no, it has eighteen times. You just sort of

775
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: tend to go it's so expected this stuff that you're

776
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: at the time. It's like, well, isn't it funny that

777
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: a dude like tied up another dude and like was

778
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: sort of like the vehicle that powered that. And you

779
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: don't know because you're like, oh, yeah, this is awful,

780
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: isn't it. But the brother is involved at first, maybe

781
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how it happens. Revenge of the Nerds,

782
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: which is like this beloved eighties movie that people have

783
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: nostalgia for. The main character like misleads a woman into

784
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: thinking that he's her boyfriend and performs oral sex on her.

785
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: Oh my god, And that's like a guest. And even

786
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: the fact that it's called revenge, yeah, exactly, like revenge

787
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: of annie group of people on women is not it's

788
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: not great. When you start looking at all these little things,

789
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: you're like, oh god, we got a lot of work

790
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: to do. Guys. We're still kind of there because we're

791
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: living in revenge of the anti feminist internet user, right,

792
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: So it's the same, That's what I mean. It's almost

793
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: like that's gone like that's gone darker now. It's yeah,

794
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: all right, well what a weird All right, we'll be

795
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: right back, and we're back. We wanted to take a

796
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: look at a Twitter trend, miles that you have been

797
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: noticing just the last two days. Look, white people don't

798
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: want black people. They don't want us have anything. Okay. So,

799
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: first fucking yesterday with the Obama portraits, like there was

800
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: a coordinated smear campaign from the likes of the right.

801
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: Uh you know because Cahindy Wiley, who did the Obama portrait,

802
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: also did versions of like classical art of like beheadings

803
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, and he does it in a style like anyway,

804
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: they basically were just there was a lot of four

805
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: Chan and and you know, are the Donald subreddit type

806
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: freaks out there trying to be like, oh, this is racist,

807
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: this is bullshit, blah blah blah, and just it was

808
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: like just a coordinated smear and a lot of people

809
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: suddenly became art critics yesterday when the ports came out

810
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: and like, oh this, so this looks terrible. This is

811
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: not art, Michelle Obama looks like the pencil drawing or whatever.

812
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: It's like, motherfucker, do you know art? Okay your avatar?

813
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: Is you wearing a camouflage under armourhood? Okay. Also, so

814
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: that was one thing and I was like, okay, whatever,

815
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: this is to be expected because this is sort of

816
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: the state of America. But then also as someone pointed

817
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: out how much there are people who really need to

818
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: point out to black people that Wakonda, uh, the imaginary

819
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: kingdom from the Black Panther film that has many people excited,

820
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: especially people of color, because look, look we gotta we

821
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: got our own movie now that is seemingly unoffensive. Uh.

822
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: So many people are tweeting stuff like Wakanda is not

823
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: what Konda? Do they do they realize what Konda is

824
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: not a real place. Dear black people, repeat after me,

825
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: what Konda is not real? These are all different tweets.

826
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying this over L. L. Wakonda's fiction.

827
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: Ancient Egypt wasn't black. Wakonda is not a real place.

828
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: So look, but Gotham City is, Crypton is real, and

829
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: Dungeons up exactly our r I p rest in power

830
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: to Crypton. But yeah, again, we don't star Wars. A

831
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: tattooing is not real, and Door is not real. Look,

832
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: we know Alderon is not real, very real, Okay, don't

833
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: funk around Hogwarts whatever. I mean again, it's just I

834
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: guess because of the idea of that this is a

835
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: place where Africans still have, like you know, had the

836
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: agency over their own kingdom without colonialism or whatever to

837
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: do as they saw fit. It's like, oh my god,

838
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: people getting excited about the Black Panther movie coming out

839
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: and white people responding by pointing out that the movie

840
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: is fictional. Yeah, because you know, some people and they're

841
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: even on their Twitter names, are putting stuff about Wakanda

842
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then that's got people so fucking angry.

843
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: It's worse than a straw man argument. It's condescending to

844
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't exist. It's like inventing someone dumber than you.

845
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: So you could go, um, actually, and you're just in

846
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: our room alone, what are you doing? I mean, yeah,

847
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: you just got back like, oh, it's not Can you

848
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: show me any literature that Boogonda is not real? Right,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Wakanda is not real. Update, Wakanda is not real.

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Speaker 1: And also, you know, everything to do with everything is

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