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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yay's thanks all back, Thank god, my captain's here. You're

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Things are a little rough.

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Speaker 2: You guys, don't have to put the phones out, Saday.

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Speaker 2: You can just come in and sit down.

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Speaker 3: We just trust your eye too much when we have

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Speaker 3: to do it. There's no trust in each other room,

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Speaker 3: like wait, did you pust?

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Speaker 1: Did you do this?

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Speaker 3: Airplane mode? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And then I also go back into like that mode

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Speaker 1: of when you have like a like a boss and

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Speaker 1: you don't want to disappoint someone like it would be

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Speaker 1: my luck that I wouldn't push.

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Speaker 3: We would take that hour out of her literally no time,

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Speaker 3: and then we would record it and then we would

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Speaker 3: have bested up, and it would just made me just

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Speaker 3: really sad. Welcome back to night.

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Speaker 1: We're glad to have you, glad to be here.

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Speaker 3: Have you like gotten back on.

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Speaker 2: A I got it Saturday night. I slept like ten

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Speaker 2: hours and it was amazing love A ten.

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Speaker 1: We're so good. I mean I went to bed at

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Speaker 1: eight thirty. That's nice? Is that a girl? Yeah? It

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Speaker 1: was so nice? Good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's been good and I'm yeah slowly getting

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Speaker 2: back into the the sleep.

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Speaker 1: Are we feeling all supported on the home front coming back? Yes, good,

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Speaker 1: laundry was done.

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Speaker 3: I need to know. I've been just dying to money.

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Speaker 1: You should say that, Cat, I need to know. Ye

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Speaker 1: was done.

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Speaker 2: And No, it was one of those where it's like

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Speaker 2: where the kids bag's unpacked from the trip. No, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. Things So but it's fine. It

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Speaker 2: was a greenhouse. I didn't even care. I came back

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Speaker 2: just like very joyful and to be unhappy. Yeah, to

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Speaker 2: get home because it was a long one. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sad that you weren't able to come out on

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Speaker 2: this one because it was you would have loved it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is this is a good one.

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Speaker 3: It ended up being interesting because Emmy ended up being sick.

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Speaker 1: That's home.

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Speaker 3: When we were gone, she had like one hundred and

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Speaker 3: two fever.

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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at right now today.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a thing. It's a viral thing. We tested

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Speaker 3: twice for everything. Weird.

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Speaker 1: The baby had it Saturday, love has it today.

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Speaker 3: So she was really sick. So I would it would

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Speaker 3: have It would have been a struggle for me to

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Speaker 3: leave because she's usually fine. But like her fever got

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Speaker 3: pretty so I would have felt it so it worked out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was bummed, but it worked out like well, of course.

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Speaker 1: It would have. It definitely would have been a fun

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Speaker 1: one though. Yeah. Oh, I can't wait to see you.

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Speaker 2: It's so good. I'm so excited. There's a few things

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Speaker 2: that I'm real proud of in it good. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: a little jockey. It was out of you. I was

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Speaker 2: a trainer, oh not a jockey trainer. Proud of that too,

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Speaker 2: thanks girl, girl. Yeah, that's that though.

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Speaker 1: Guys. We're just happy you're back. It feels weird when

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Speaker 1: and it was like, a, really this is so sentimental

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Speaker 1: and ridiculous, but that's my role, right, that's what I do.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I just like being here though, Like I felt like

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Speaker 1: far away from you, so it just felt like good

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Speaker 1: to just even be like in your space.

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Speaker 3: It was definitely the way to do it. It was

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Speaker 3: sweet and not psycho what I just said, because like,

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Speaker 3: my house isn't set up for it. It always doesn't

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Speaker 3: sound good, it doesn't look good. It was just so

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Speaker 3: much better to just be here. We could be here,

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Speaker 3: the setup, we could see you, well, it was it

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Speaker 3: was perfect.

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Speaker 1: Yay, yay, don't ever leave again. Let's me do that again. Well,

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Speaker 1: I might have a few coming up. But anyways, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's good, kine.

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Speaker 2: So any life updates? Did the in laws come? What's happening?

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Speaker 1: No? In laws didn't come? You said, did you?

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Speaker 3: Oh? You kept saying what if that's what you want?

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Speaker 1: That's right? And it ended up just shaking out good

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Speaker 1: I am guys?

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 1: And I hope you're proud of this. I'm trying really

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Speaker 1: hard to use the word surrender over and over and

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Speaker 1: over again. Yeah, not a doormat, but just to know

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Speaker 1: anchoring in these little nooks of nervousness or anxious overworrying.

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Speaker 1: It does me no good, it does my body no good.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm just trying to continue, like when I

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Speaker 1: tell you it's minute to minute back re surrendering, really

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Speaker 1: sing surrendering. So I thought, you know, what, if they

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Speaker 1: want want to come, it will be what it will be.

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Speaker 1: And what do you know? Just over here other side

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Speaker 1: of having my husband home for five days and no hosting, great, Hey,

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Speaker 1: So I do want to set the record straight that

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Speaker 1: I do like to host because I found a lot.

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Speaker 3: I got a lot of support. They're like, I stress

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Speaker 3: about having people over to Okay, I got.

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Speaker 1: A lot of support. People were like, and I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm just nervous. I'm coming off like, yeah, got frigid,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like I do enjoy it. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: just in a season where I'm hosting three of the

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Speaker 1: people I gave birth to, and that's enough for me.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't make you a frigid bitch, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. Like every personality is different, and that's what

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Speaker 3: I'm learning. I always kind of thought that about myself

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Speaker 3: because I seem like kind of cold and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: But now I'm realizing through this and people reaching out

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Speaker 3: like that's my personality too, and that's okay. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of people like that. Like a lot

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Speaker 3: of people would prefer to go to someone else's house

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Speaker 3: then hosted their house, Like that's.

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Speaker 1: Not a yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'll just say this though too, Like when I met you, Catherine,

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Speaker 2: my first impression wasn't you were cold?

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Speaker 3: Or that you were right?

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just thinking back, Yeah, like when I

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Speaker 2: I thought you were old, right?

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Speaker 3: You know well, and I think too, you have a

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Speaker 3: good personality for me in that situation. If someone is

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Speaker 3: us because we're fine once we get to know each other.

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Speaker 2: One of the other girls that it was kind of

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Speaker 2: in another acquaintance group where it's then you guys just

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Speaker 2: because it's.

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Speaker 3: Not who it is.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I can already just say yeah, a lot for

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Y'all's personalities make it easier for

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Speaker 3: me because if you're like me and it's hard Channa

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Speaker 3: and I like Velcrow two, well, yeah, and that can

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Speaker 3: work too. But again, I remember meeting Jane. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: this is easy because she remembers and I don't remember

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Speaker 3: feeling like you were closed off at all.

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Speaker 1: But again, you'll make it easier for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if someone is also right, but it's awesome, kind nice,

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Speaker 3: get to know each other and then we're fine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do has your has that changed for you?

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Speaker 2: What being in because I've noticed me shifting a bit.

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Speaker 1: The surrendering or the being in people's space.

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Speaker 2: Not being like even within work situations normally be like

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Speaker 2: I'm a hugger, like I'm a lot more like highness

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Speaker 2: to meet you, like I'm more I'm not as.

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Speaker 1: You're more reserved. Now for sure, I would, I definitely am.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of that changed with marriage, depressed

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Speaker 1: label and we kind of had a talk where he

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Speaker 1: was like, listen, as I've always been the hugger, and

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Speaker 1: he's like that could be perceived as not professional at times,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, you know, broke my little Michigan heart,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like.

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Speaker 2: We come from a state of hugger. When I was

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Speaker 2: doing my radio to Yeah, the label like basically said

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Speaker 2: because I would hug the program directors. So some liked

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Speaker 2: it and others were like they didn't add my song

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Speaker 2: because I was like hugging them, or like because I

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Speaker 2: was too friendly. I was like, I was just giving

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Speaker 2: I'm frankly that was.

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Speaker 3: So interesting, but a little bit in the label's defense,

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Speaker 3: these radio guys would think because you gave them a

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Speaker 3: not adding the song.

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Speaker 1: So that was a same discussion, and that's bad.

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Speaker 3: It's so messed up. And it literally we basically had

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Speaker 3: to tell you to not be yourself because these men

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Speaker 3: I remember once you walked past a radio guy not

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Speaker 3: realizing it. I'll never forget this. I think we were

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Speaker 2: Say hello, then didn't play my song because we don't

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Speaker 3: I just want to defend that, Like it was not like, hey,

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Speaker 3: just don't be a hugger. It was these radio guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. They made it really hard for artists to

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Speaker 1: Well. I remember getting side hugged ones by a pastor

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Speaker 1: because I was a hugger. Right, And then that's an

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Speaker 1: awkward moment too, you know, like I just assumed everyone's

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Speaker 1: so much. And that's a completely cool difference sided me.

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Speaker 1: I understand it. Yeah, but at the time, I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: not even as much. I feel like, I'm just I

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Speaker 1: in general, and it's not closed off. I'm just I

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Speaker 2: So we're I think mine came from like, yes, we

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Speaker 2: I had to And then but it was like almost

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Speaker 2: like a not an overkill because it is my personality.

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Speaker 2: I do would rather hug than shake someone's hand, and

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Speaker 2: I'm more reserved now, yeah, because I don't. I would

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Speaker 2: portray this like easy free loving person.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I would agree. Yeah, and I think.

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Speaker 3: It's okay to you know, I think it's okay either way.

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Speaker 3: I mean, your personality is your personality. But if you

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Speaker 3: be overly and by all means be more reserved, you know,

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Speaker 2: that I haven't done botox, and I noticed on this

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00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 2: last movie because the makeup artist, you know, obviously was

438
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 2: putting makeup on my face and not wear makeup a lot,

439
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: so I don't really see the creases. But when she was,

440
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 2: you know, putting a decent amount of makeup on my

441
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 2: face and towards the middle of the day, I was like, damn,

442
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 2: like the makeup creases where my wrinkles are or my

443
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 2: eyes are. I was like, this is I was like Hayley. Sorry, girl.

444
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 2: I was like, come, I'm wrinkling out. She's like no,

445
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,360
Speaker 2: She's like I love it. She's like, I love your wrinkles.

446
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, but seeing it was was challenging

447
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 2: and so I still have just debated what I was

448
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 2: going to what I'm going to do with that piece.

449
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just missed the day of us being

450
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 3: able to age and like it be. Everyone is aging

451
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 3: and everyone has wrinkles and it's beautiful. But now it's like, well, shit,

452
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 3: can I age normally when everybody's getting botox? Which I've

453
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 3: done botox. I'm not against it, yeah, just but it

454
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 3: makes it that harder. Like if we were all in

455
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 3: our forties and we all had wrinkles and it didn't

456
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's kind of like we

457
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 3: do it all together, but then when you have all

458
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 3: these people who are doing all of that, it's like

459
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 3: you can't. Then it starts to make you feel like

460
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 3: you need to. I'm really going to try to find this.

461
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: It's so good.

462
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: The person that posted it, it's not on their story anymore,

463
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: but it is literally this and the way he frames

464
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: it is just so interesting because he's basically saying you

465
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: can try, you could do all of that to look twenty,

466
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 1: but we're just gonna know that you're sixty trying to

467
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 1: look twenty. Right, No one's gonna think this guy's twenty

468
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: years old. They're just gonna think you're a sixty year

469
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 1: old that wants to look twenty. It was kind of

470
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: like that perspective, and I was like, wow, okay, yeah,

471
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 1: would you ever not do botox? I don't think so.

472
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll say this. I you know, obviously

473
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 1: during pregnancy didn't, and this time I was like wow,

474
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 1: because I haven't seen a non botox forehead in a

475
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: long time. It had been like five years. It's also

476
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: strange to me, even for myself, that I do that,

477
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: because I also I am so holistic in all the other

478
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: areas of my life that I'm like, but then I'll

479
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: just shoot my wrhead of bacteria. But I do just

480
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 1: I love a clean forehead, so I don't know, like

481
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm clear, but I love watching women age, so.

482
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: I feel love women with wrinkles and like personality to

483
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 3: their faces. Well I didn't.

484
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: I just had this kind of heart to heart with

485
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: myself because I'm forty three and I thought, how long

486
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: do I do this? You know, like I don't want

487
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: to be I don't want to be fifty trying to

488
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: look like I'm forty. I have really great genetics. My

489
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: mom and my grandmother have beautiful skin, so it's like,

490
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, even when my grandma passed away, she didn't

491
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: look to her age. She was just stunning. So I thought,

492
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: maybe it's just time. But I don't know when that happens.

493
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

494
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 2: Hm. I remember running into uh Jesse Decker's mom and

495
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: I was like, you look beautiful, she said, I stopped

496
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: all this and I was like, I wouldn't even know,

497
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 2: but you look stunning. And I think there's something to

498
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: be said for women that are aging that when you

499
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: do too much you do to me, they always look older,

500
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: you know. And when yeah, but also again, do what

501
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: you want to do to your face and know all

502
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: the things. And I'll probably do botox again, I think,

503
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe not get started, rancombized some creams

504
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: that Nate just gave me, so TBD. My mom's never

505
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 2: done it a day in her life, and.

506
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: She looks great. She looks so young, So I do

507
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: think it's tricky too, like for me I get really

508
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: it gets very wrinkly, like it's it would be at

509
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: resting wrinkly listen again, whatever. But there is a lot

510
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: of things we can I'm learning about right now internally

511
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: that helps support all of that too, so that maybe

512
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: we don't treat it topically and we treat it more internally.

513
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 2: I mean, I use my little blooming thing that I

514
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: do the ads for. I got my red light. I'm

515
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: just show you the creams. If it ends up working,

516
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try it first to see. I use the

517
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 2: bloomy too because you said it, and I use your

518
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 2: code welcome crowl.

519
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: Oh.

520
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: And you know what, I have nothing to whine about.

521
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,239
Speaker 1: It's a fine day. That's I love it.

522
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I got plenty that I could, but I

523
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: feel really good. I feel grateful, schools all rest over.

524
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: And this is what I'm gonna say. So this is

525
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 2: like my my grateful about it. Okay, Okay, there we go.

526
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 2: I love summer and I know that it's so crazy

527
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 2: and Catoch and the kids are home, and I love it.

528
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 2: I I don't know, I just I love summertime. And

529
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: I think it's I'm looking forward to it and that

530
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: is and I'm excited because there's a few things too

531
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 2: that might be coming up in the pipeline that I

532
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: just would be towards the end of summer, and it's like,

533
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna just really hone in focus on

534
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 2: the kids. And I love that time when I'm not working.

535
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: You know, I used to not love summer so much

536
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 3: when they were younger. I love that, y'all do. But

537
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 3: now I love it. Yeah, Now I like really look

538
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 3: forward to it. I mean, I'm an uber driver, but

539
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 3: I love it.

540
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Kiden drives now, so that makes it easier.

541
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: I also just think there's just such a you know,

542
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: you've obviously we've all seen it, but like for you

543
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: and I were halfway through, Kramer, We're we're nine summers

544
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 1: into our eighteen summers. Yeah, I know, I don't know

545
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: how Like I'm emotional for neighbors that have sent me

546
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: graduation announcements. I'm like, this isn't even my child. Yeah,

547
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: and I'm still emotional.

548
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: So when Maria Pam's daughter had her fifth grade walk

549
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: through at a school, I was like, because, I mean

550
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: I cried at church the other day. Because Jolie is

551
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: now finally at the age that goes down to the

552
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: front of the thing, and I was like, I've seen

553
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: that when Dakota started that, like legend just wrapped up

554
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: his games on the little fields and we've been out

555
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: there for almost four years, that little four diamond, you know,

556
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: and I just was like, and I'm watching, I'll get emotional.

557
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 4: So ridiculous he's like six, but I'm like watching all

558
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 4: of these like little cherub but like wild things just

559
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 4: like run on the field and like it's so Sandlot feeling,

560
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: and I'm like, man, it.

561
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: Just is like I feel like I am so fully

562
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: present and intentional with these kids in a way because

563
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: I know I've heard it a million times we all

564
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: have how fast it goes. But I stood out there

565
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: other night and I was like, I don't want to

566
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: go to another concession stand, you know, Like it's so silly,

567
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: but it's such a magical season for them. Like you

568
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: want them to get bigger and get better and have

569
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: to move up, and you want the you know, the

570
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: balls to just be crushed so far that like we're

571
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: checking deductibles on cars now because they can't their home

572
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: run balls need bigger fields. And it's awesome. It's just

573
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: so bittersweet, like I'm about to have a second grader

574
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: and a fourth grader and the baby's about to be

575
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: two in like three weeks. That's weird. Yeah, and fast.

576
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: Each season is so fun and so different though, and

577
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: just so enjoyable in different ways.

578
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: I know, I just am. I am soaking up the

579
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: hem giving me the shout out at first base and

580
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: the you know, like I know that they'll look different,

581
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: and I think I never we still have that, but

582
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it's different for sure. It's just that

583
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: like like over the top, you know, like it's awesome. Yeah.

584
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,719
Speaker 2: Chrissy teak and reveals she's let alcohol back into my life.

585
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: It's a beast.

586
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: She goes on to say that she was talking on

587
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: a podcast and saying, hollywoodakerd change my life, change my perspective,

588
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: and change how I view the effing beast that is alcohol.

589
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: But to have to admit all of to you that

590
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: I've led it back in my life, to let a

591
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: lot of you down, oh I feel it deeply. I

592
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: was so proud every time one of you told me

593
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: on the street the Holly and I made you want

594
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: to rethink drinking, reframe drinking. I still am the truth is,

595
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing. I one hundred percent no.

596
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: I like me better sober. I one hundred percent no.

597
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: I get more done. I absolutely feel better in my

598
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: body without it. And I'm one hundred percent pissed that

599
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: I can't be normal and have a cock with my

600
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: husband on VAKA without it turning into eight and feeling

601
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: like so a few things with us A. How do

602
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: you guys feel that she came out talking about this

603
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: and what are your thoughts on that.

604
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: I like that she's kind of talking about it while

605
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: she's in it. I mean, I know that can't be easy,

606
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: and it wouldn't be easy for a lot of people,

607
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 3: but I think it's kind of cool for everyone who

608
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: may be struggling with this to kind of see her

609
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: ups and downs and kind of see, you know, the

610
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: in between, and because she doesn't know what she's doing,

611
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 3: she's trying to just do it on her own, and

612
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: you know, I think that that's cool. I can't imagine

613
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: being in the position of not being able to just

614
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: have one drink, you know. I mean, I've never been

615
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: in that position. It's never been hard for me to

616
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: have one drink and stop. It's never. But there are

617
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: a lot of people who you know, they have one

618
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: and then they have eight, like she said, and that's scary.

619
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: So I think it's good that she's talking about it,

620
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: and I hope for her say that she can get

621
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: back to being sober, because you know, having eight cannot

622
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: be healthy.

623
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: Sure, I didn't realize she had an issue with this.

624
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: To be honest, I didn't either. But I don't follow her. Yeah,

625
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: I don't follow herself.

626
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: I remember that I don't like her.

627
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: I just don't.

628
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I follow her either. I think

629
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: I used to, but I think I kind of just

630
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: unfollowed a bunch of different like celebrities and stuff. But

631
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: I remembered seeing that she was sober, and I was like, oh,

632
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: I didn't know she had an issue. So I did

633
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: see that when she had, when she had.

634
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: Said that, I mean, I love it when anyone can

635
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: take accountability for things. I'm dealing with something right now

636
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: where a person won't take accountability, and it's it's and

637
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: I had had to send a text message to this

638
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: person to say nothing, nothing will change if you don't

639
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: hold yourself accountable and accountable to other people. Now, and

640
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: this person's like, you just want me to scream it

641
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: from the rooftops. I'm like, I actually don't. But if

642
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: you if someone asks you what happened and you lie

643
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: to them, that is completely feeding your addiction of lying

644
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: and also feeding the problem of what truly happened, Like

645
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: you should be honest if someone asks you what happened,

646
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: hold yourself accountable, like be accountable for your actions. And

647
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: you know, I think she doesn't have to share this,

648
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: but the fact that she is I have mad respect

649
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: for because she's wanting, I think, in that change and

650
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: you know, and she's trying to figure it out. And

651
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: I think that's a very vulnerable place to be to

652
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: be like, this is what happened, and this is I

653
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: don't know what I'm trying to figure it out. And

654
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: I think that is that's a place of someone that

655
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: is open and willing to have growth.

656
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree.

657
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: And as far as alcohol, I mean, you know, I

658
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: Alan hasn't had a drink in I think over two months.

659
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: He started it as like a month journey thing, and

660
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: you know, he's like, I don't know if I'll ever

661
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: have a drink again. And it is not that he

662
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: has a problem, but he also knows that it's kind

663
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: of that where it's like it's not just one. Yeah,

664
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: you know, it's always like more after and is that healthy?

665
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: Note because he wakes up and he feels like crap,

666
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: but he you know, and and so I mean he

667
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: mentioned something like maybe when we go on a vacation,

668
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: I'll have one at the pool or something like that,

669
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: or you know, he just likes the way he feels better.

670
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: And honestly, the last time I had a glass of

671
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: wine was two movies ago or the last what was it,

672
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: West Virginia movie, and it was I don't like the

673
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: how I feel. I feel like crap. But it doesn't

674
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: mean I'm never going to drink again. But I also

675
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: can stop at two glasses of wine a ukro NIGHTE like,

676
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: I'll have wine for you. That's probably the first time

677
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: I'll drink since that March time or whenever. Yeah, And and

678
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: I went on a date and I had a half

679
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: a glass of wine.

680
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: That's the only time I drink wine now.

681
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like there's a piece of me that misses,

682
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: like even last night, I goes, God, I could really

683
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: use a glass of wine, and I almost did, but

684
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: I Honestly, I don't have bottles here anymore. Like I

685
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: don't keep my wine here anymore. So I've saved a

686
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: lot of money.

687
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: Now fine wine.

688
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: You know, the only thing Jana Kramer spent money on

689
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen was wine. Why really good wine? Really

690
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: good or not at all?

691
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: That's how I roll. Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's not.

692
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: It's true.

693
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: I mean, like I've I have bottles in my thing

694
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: for like my mom when she comes, but I won't.

695
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't my mom will drink the fifteen dollars bottles.

696
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: I don't like those. There's no point for me to drink.

697
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: I want the nice ones that taste really good.

698
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: And so.

699
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I went in there and I'm like, I

700
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: wonder if I have anything in there. The only thing

701
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: in there was a Camus Special Select, which is my favorite,

702
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: but it was one of those big magnum ones, and like,

703
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: I'm not wasting that for one So I was like,

704
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: I'll save that for a girl's uker night. But yeah,

705
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: so I just am like, there are times when I

706
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: do want it, but it's not ever, it will never

707
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: be how it was right when I used to drink

708
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: every single night.

709
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing for me, And she kind of said

710
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: this in there. I don't have to be in situations

711
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 3: anymore where I'm uncomfortable to where I need it, and

712
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: she had mentioned that that was me. Yeah, and it

713
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't be eight, it would be one, but I would

714
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: need a glass of wine to socially loosen up, you know.

715
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: And so I'm not in those positions as much anymore.

716
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: And I think that's been huge for me because I

717
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 3: don't I don't like that. I don't like that feeling

718
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: like that you have to have alcohol to be able

719
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: to talk to people and feel comfortable, like I never

720
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: liked that feeling. So it's interesting she brought that up

721
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: because she's in that position a lot. I'm sure if

722
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: she has any kind of social anxiety at all, that's uncomfortable.

723
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: But I do enjoy when we are social, which we

724
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 3: talked about last episode. We haven't been very social. I

725
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: do enjoy having a drink when i'm social. Yeah, I

726
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: just think that it's fun. I'm not going to drink

727
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: at home by myself, but when we're together, it just

728
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: it makes it feel it just I don't need it,

729
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: but I think it's fun. So I think the more

730
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: social we are. I might drink a little bit more,

731
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: but I love a good glass of wine. I super

732
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: love a good glass of wine with dinner, like a great.

733
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: I know, right, But like even that, I fall in

734
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: the habit though, which is I gotta be careful of that,

735
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: so I can fall in the habit of having the

736
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: glass of wine every night.

737
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: So I can't. Yeah, I can't either, really well, yeah,

738
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: I just can't anymore. It's good and.

739
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 2: I don't anymore, but I could be that I love

740
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: like when you say you yeah, yeah, I.

741
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: Love it too. But that's how it's meant to be.

742
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: I think it's like it paired and enjoyed and all

743
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: the things. I just it's like, now, what do I

744
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: like better? Sleeper? Wine? Sleep? You know. So I'm kind

745
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: of like even in this season we're at two. Yeah,

746
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: like even when Preston's home, He's like, baby, tonight, are

747
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: we going to open up a good bottle of wine?

748
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: Like we just don't drink at home. I'm like yeah.

749
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: And then we get to like thirty and he's like

750
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: popcorn and I'm like, I might have an ollipop. Oh man,

751
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: this is and on this episode of being old, I

752
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: will say though I used to love a dirty martini.

753
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: Your girl over here a dirty Voka martini was Oh, like,

754
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: I do like cocktails. I loved it. And since the baby,

755
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: I cannot do it. I want to be able to

756
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: do it, and I can't do it for some reason.

757
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: Are any of you guys following the Ditty case a

758
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: little bit? Yes, I'm not, I am following. I shouldn't

759
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: even say this, but fifty cent? What have you followed?

760
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: Fifty cents? He is going after Diddy? Oh good, I

761
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: would say that. Yeah, is he? I'm going to be

762
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: on the stand, I don't think. So he's in the court,

763
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: he's outside of the courthouse right now with the shirt

764
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: really fifty cent. So he's convinced it's free Diddy these

765
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: shirts everyone's wearing. Oh wait, this is my extent of knowledge. Wait,

766
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: he's for Ditty.

767
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 3: No, no, he's saying the free Diddy.

768
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: He's saying people are getting paid to wear the free

769
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: Diddy shirts outside of the courthouse, and that those people

770
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: there's no possible way those people really care or I know.

771
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: And so that to frame again, like just to enlighten media,

772
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: our brains. Media, right, we see people with a sea

773
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: of shirts to say free Diddy, and and he's saying

774
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: those shirts are supplied those people or getting paid to

775
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: do it? Are they? I don't know, but that is

776
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: that wouldn't have crossed my mind if I saw it,

777
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: to be honest, Oh it would have mine. I know,

778
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: it would have kick cats out of the bag. I mean,

779
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: there's just so there's a lot stuff where it's.

780
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 2: I've the things that I've seen what they're they're talking about,

781
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: what the prosecution that the people that are going to

782
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: go against Cassie and say well, this is what she did.

783
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: And there's nothing more frustrating than when that person tries

784
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: to then go after the victim to be like, well

785
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: you did X, Y and Z. It's like, did anyone

786
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: watch the tape? Can we play can we play back

787
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: the hotel tape? I remember when I went to court

788
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: for the case that the guy tried to kill me,

789
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: his lawyer goes, did you have to drink that night?

790
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, long drink?

791
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, wild like and I just remember going,

792
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 2: is this really?

793
00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: Like?

794
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: My lawyer was like what He's like, Well, because she

795
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: might not have an impaired I was like, did you

796
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: see the bruises? Like you know what I mean, Like

797
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: I had to like one maybe or two he said,

798
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: well you were impaired then, so what your statement to

799
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I just was like, how how does that?

800
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: How do I don't and I'll never understand. I know

801
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: everyone has to have a lawyer to have the person

802
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 2: to fight for them. Fine, but it's to Oh, it's

803
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: just dirty.

804
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: It also feels a little guilty to me to have

805
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: to go and attack someone like that. Like I don't

806
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: even know if I'm going to phrase that correctly, but

807
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: if you have to go and like start attacking in

808
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: these attacking someone's character in that way, that makes me

809
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 1: feel like he's got even more that he's Well.

810
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 3: That's always going to be the case. They're always going

811
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: to do that. They're always going to try to make

812
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: them look not credible. That's their job, that's what they're

813
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: going to do. And I think that's you know that

814
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: going into it, probably if your lawyer has prepared you

815
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: for that, But like, also, are you really prepared to

816
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 3: be attacked when you're the victim.

817
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: But you know, my thought is if she's willing, she

818
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: has to know every time she knows, and she's still unafraid, Yeah,

819
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: then there's some fish to fry because she she knows

820
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: the truth, and she knows all the things they're going

821
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: to try to say about her. She knows all her insecurity,

822
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: she knows all of the dark parts, and she still

823
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: doesn't care whatever that is, whatever that is is worth

824
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: being brought to light to her than him going another day.

825
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so many people that have been involved are

826
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: too scared or do not want to get involved. But

827
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: then the other two women, and I don't know their names,

828
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: I apologize, but I had just read this, but the

829
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: two women who apparently were involved, and one had said,

830
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: you know, I was here and he did this. We

831
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: were both there, this is what happened X, Y and Z.

832
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: And then the other girl came out and was like, well,

833
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 3: that wasn't what I remembered. Well, now they're saying that

834
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 3: he paid her off, you know, for her to come

835
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: out and say that's not how it happened. That's not

836
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: how you know, And so it's like, how do you

837
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: even know? That's where I get so overwhelmed by these cases,

838
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: and I love to follow them, but my brain just

839
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: gets so reloaded because it's like what's truth and what's not?

840
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 3: When it's these high powerful people who pay people off,

841
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: you know. So it's and it can be both ways.

842
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you can be paying someone to say something

843
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: bad too, So it's it's a struggle for me in

844
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: these situations to really sift through all of the information.

845
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, I know there was an article about I

846
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 3: don't know, there's been so.

847
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: Much but that it's a lot and it's dark. Yeah,

848
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: it is. And I think what's interesting is probably the

849
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: three of us two have at least a little bit

850
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: of a perspective when it comes to music industry and

851
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: how easy some of this could be to be true,

852
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: and like the people wanting their break and they're wanting

853
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: their big chance and the things that are promised and

854
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: if you just do this, and how easy your integrity

855
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: can get compromised, or who you know to be can

856
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: be compromised because you're so wrapped up in the chase

857
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: of it or the promise of it, or just well.

858
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: The one woman I was talking about, he handled her finances,

859
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 3: he had her record deal, he had all the things,

860
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: So like, can you blame her for going okay when

861
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: he says, you know, if he paid her to say that,

862
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: That's not how it happened. Sure, part of me is like,

863
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 3: can you blame her? I mean, like, what is she

864
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: supposed to do?

865
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

866
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: You know, she probably has no one in her life,

867
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: not saying she doesn't, but probably Key's promised her this,

868
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: He's got her finances, her record deal, all the things.

869
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: It's just so deep and so convoluted that you almost

870
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 3: can't blame the people that weren't able to speak up

871
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: against it. Yeah, it's a lot.

872
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: Listener advice. I'm a big fan of the podcast and

873
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: love listening to your advice every week. I found myself

874
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: in a situation I could use some advice on. My

875
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 2: ex husband and I got divorced three years ago because

876
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: I found out he was cheating on me with multiple women.

877
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: We have a good co parenting relationship and have moved

878
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: on to new relationships. Recently, my daughter and I went

879
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: on a who I share with him and I went

880
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 2: on a weekend trip with my ex husband and oh sorry,

881
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: and my ex husband gave her his iPad to use

882
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: to watch movies on the airplane. Long story short, my

883
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: exes logged into his text messages on his iPad and

884
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: while my daughter was using the iPad, there were a

885
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: lot of inappropriate and graphic text messages that kept popping up.

886
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: She told me about seeing a gross picture and I

887
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: instantly took the iPad away. I went to the messages

888
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: to see what she was talking about, and there I

889
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: found multiple text threads to different women that confirm my

890
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: husband is cheating on his current girlfriend. Sorry, my ex

891
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: husband is cheating on his current girlfriend. I am so

892
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: disgusted by him, but also not surprised that he hasn't changed.

893
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: My question for you girls is what do I do

894
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: now knowing this information? Do I tell his girlfriend that

895
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: he's cheating on her? She's also supposed to move in

896
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: with him soon, and I don't want my daughter to

897
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: go through another broken relationship when this all blows up.

898
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: Please give me all your advice on what I should do.

899
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 2: Thank you, Love you girls.

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00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: Kat Well, First of all, couldn't care less about the

901
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: current girlfriend. I go into mom mode. You have this

902
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: stuff on an iPad you gave my child. I would

903
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: absolutely lose my mind. I would do anything in my

904
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: power to make sure that that could absolutely never happen again.

905
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: You know, when a child sees pornographic material, their life

906
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: is never the same and when it happens young, it

907
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: usually becomes a major problem.

908
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: So something left untreated, unhelped, unhealed.

909
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, so that would be my focus. My

910
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 3: focus would be what do I can I do in

911
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: my power to make sure that this never gets seen

912
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 3: in front of my child Again, I don't care about

913
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: the girlfriend personally whatever you know, well the moving in,

914
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 3: But at the same time, like to me, it's just

915
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: fixed that problem and what you have to do first

916
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: for that. I don't know what the legal situations are

917
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 3: and what you can do, but I would do anything

918
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: to have my child not.

919
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: Be around that. Yeah, isn't there something I mean that

920
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: has to fall into some sort of neglect category? I

921
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: would think from a parenting perspective, I think abuse of

922
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: some sort, even if it's indirect, because that's just not appropriate. Yeah,

923
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: that's a really tricky position, especially with a girlfriend moving in.

924
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: I care about the girlfriend knowing because if you and

925
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: this is from the mom point of view too, because

926
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: you don't need more transition and more In my brain, Cramer,

927
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: we should probably let you speak to this because you

928
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: are is someone that co parents. But my heart of

929
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: hearts is that it's just another transition another person they

930
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: have to know that they probably don't get to keep,

931
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: and specifically if they're moving into the house that is,

932
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: that's a lot for children to process, good or bad.

933
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: It can be magical, and it's still a lot for

934
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: them to process. So someone's moved in and then finds

935
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: us out and then potentially moves out, then we're just

936
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: this is just a lot for kids. Yes, it's a

937
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: protective kid.

938
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: My guess is that girlfriend's not even gonna care, not

939
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: even do anything about it. I think, Kat, and I

940
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: just feel like I've just feel like it's and we've

941
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: all been in that position. Women don't just listen at

942
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: first to coming because.

943
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: The usually a man who cheats is so good yep

944
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: at covering up his lies, to cover up his lies,

945
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 2: to cover up his lies, and the person that he's

946
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: with is used to that manipulation and that cycle, and

947
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: it's usually the person will say, don't listen to the

948
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: ex wife because she's fucking crazy. Usually that person doesn't

949
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: like the co parent because the X has brainwashed the

950
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: person to not like the person the last wife. So

951
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: to your point, Kat, yeah, I mean I'm sure I

952
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: would if if I was in this situation. A hundred

953
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: percent go, I'd go mom mode with what I need

954
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: to do with that all, you know, the messages and everything,

955
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: but beyond that, like I would, I would because it

956
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: is I don't want the more change for the kids

957
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: and you know, for the daughter, So I would. But

958
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: what I would say to tell this person is screenshot

959
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 2: and have proof, because if not, they're gonna yeah, They're

960
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: going to talk around it, and then the person will

961
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: most likely be like.

962
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: This person's about to say all this, but this isn't.

963
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: True, and then you're going to see just more lies.

964
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: And it's really good information for that person to have

965
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: to have that guy lie to them and then see

966
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: the inner workings of how they lie and it's like no, no,

967
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: but here's the proof, right that wasn't Yeah, you know,

968
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: And so I think you get a lot of information

969
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: in that in that piece, but and it's not and

970
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: it's it's also to end up protecting the kids to

971
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: like you said, yeah, I know you don't care about

972
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: the girl.

973
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying I don't. I think I

974
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: just would focus solely on that first. Yes, not saying

975
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: I wouldn't tell a girlfriend necessarily. I just think that

976
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: that's kind of the least of my worries in that moment,

977
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: m just because it can be so detrimental to their

978
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 3: their health and their growth.

979
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, but that is a that's a sticky situation

980
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: to be in. And also, you know, isn't it just

981
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: great validation when that I mean, there's a piece in

982
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: this where it's like it happened again, and there's a

983
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: there's a lovely validation that comes with that to go, Okay,

984
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: it wasn't me and this is just who he is.

985
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: Yep. And I also would advise to just go slow.

986
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: I think the protective part of us, at least in

987
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: my experience, for anything, the protective part of me just

988
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: goes leads and it does. It's almost animalistic. And it's

989
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: like I would just encourage you to get all of

990
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: your ducks in a row, super tidy, like Creamer saying,

991
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: get the footage, document it, make sure you have and

992
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: own those screenshots and that stuff. So that because there's

993
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: a manipulator like this knows how to manipulate in ways

994
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean, in so many intelligent ways they manipulate, but

995
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: then also in so many ridiculously ask nine ways to

996
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: leave something like that, don't get it to it to

997
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: be so stupid. Yeah, cheaters are stupid. They are. Yeah,

998
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: sounds so. But also just go slow, like really be

999
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: intentional and thorough is what I want her to hear. Well, ladies,

1000
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: this was nice to be back together again. Welcome and

1001
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: thankful to have you Kramer. Let's get that summer schedule going. Guys,

1002
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: here we go, last week of school.

1003
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: And we've already got one thing on the books. What's

1004
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: up for her to hanging out? Oh yeah, see, look

1005
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 3: at us. We made it happen.

1006
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: And Catherine's like, do I have to dress up?

1007
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: I know, making me dress a hybrid?

1008
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: We're in a hybrid. Okay, okay, bye bye.

1009
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 3: M hmm