Speaker 1: That's like mailing a script here to yourself to copyright
Speaker 1: the copyright.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that bait? What where is even like the
Speaker 2: most tenuous strand of reality that's connected to that bone
Speaker 2: headed idea that you just mail yourself something.
Speaker 1: Therefore it's copywritten.
Speaker 3: The poor man's copyright comes from the idea that certified
Speaker 3: mail puts it on record, but it doesn't like, Oh.
Speaker 2: It's like maybe to prove that it was that idea
Speaker 2: had been in the world your.
Speaker 1: Case in court, but it doesn't really copyright it.
Speaker 2: So you definitely leave that envelope sealed. And then at
Speaker 2: the court you're like, and now I will open this. Yes,
Speaker 2: steamer writing.
Speaker 1: And yellow diamonds look like peep, sorry push, and I'm
Speaker 1: stealing that And you did and you didn't mail.
Speaker 2: That, so you're push the tea song right.
Speaker 3: I'd like to call my next witness, push.
Speaker 1: A tea, push a teh.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the thing that you want, yellow diamonds that
Speaker 2: look like pepe or boogers. I was learning before we start. Yes,
Speaker 2: are we still to beer? You know?
Speaker 1: Rappers still haven't gone. They're not talking about lab growing
Speaker 1: like the industry. Does you know what I mean? This
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be the first time that there's a product
Speaker 1: where I go in and say, I'm sorry, do you
Speaker 1: have any anything that looks like PEP? It's not the
Speaker 1: first time, it's certainly not gonna be the last.
Speaker 2: Hello, sir, welcome. It's my it's my way of asking
Speaker 2: if they have original Mountain dew. Welcome to twenty one
Speaker 2: Carret Jeweler. Sir, what can I do for you? Oh man,
Speaker 2: I am in trouble with my wife. Do you have
Speaker 2: anything that looks like PP?
Speaker 3: Well, we have a couple of different shades. Are you're
Speaker 3: looking for something more like?
Speaker 2: I don't know. He has got to know that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: renal failure. Yeah, I want them.
Speaker 1: I want I want like urreic acid crystals attached to
Speaker 1: the diamonds.
Speaker 2: Time, much like I want to keep to look viscus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my diamond should look like someone needs to call
Speaker 3: a doctor.
Speaker 1: The thing that's coming out of that is making a
Speaker 1: PLoP sound. All right, Like that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: There we go, kidney stone stoned.
Speaker 2: Kidney stone stones on my There you go.
Speaker 1: The stones on my wife's wrists need to look like
Speaker 1: they came out of kidney. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: kidney stones.
Speaker 3: I feel like we're being so prescient right now. I
Speaker 3: cannot wait to hear this come up in another album.
Speaker 1: Right Oh yeah, yeah yeah, I mean yellow diamonds look
Speaker 1: like PEPs.
Speaker 2: It's like we waiting for a Clips album for how
Speaker 2: many years and the first bar, first thing we're here
Speaker 2: to put these yellow diamonds look like peep. Yes, sadly,
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, that's a that's a person real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's literally the first line of this new
Speaker 1: track from the forthcoming album Ace Trumpets.
Speaker 3: It's just it's got that e ending sort rhymes ship
Speaker 3: in English.
Speaker 1: That's it's more just they just admire it for its Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just every when they're trying to write a verse, they
Speaker 1: just have like a framed word. Yeah. I mean even
Speaker 1: in that for Real song that you like with Tyler
Speaker 1: the Creator cash and cash Out, he's got that lyric
Speaker 1: like this ship neon yellow like peon it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's everywhere. Yeah. What is this man drinking?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm drinking air conditioning refrigerator.
Speaker 2: Oh god, it's really expensive, so it's kind of baller.
Speaker 1: You can go ahead and start recording if you haven't
Speaker 1: started already.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is all on record. Push right after that,
Speaker 2: the represented to the Library of Congress email.
Speaker 1: We're gonna mail it to ourselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three ninety one,
Speaker 1: Episode two of der nally th Guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the production of by Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: What's the podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: American share consciousness? And it's Tuesday, June third, twenty twenty five. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're three days into Pride. Shout out everybody is pride.
Speaker 1: Shout out the places that are still So.
Speaker 2: I was reading an article about how there's actually an
Speaker 2: it been an uptick in small town pride events, you know,
Speaker 2: because despite the fucking terrible homophobic, you know, vibes coming
Speaker 2: from the government, it's actually like it's it's created in,
Speaker 2: you know, a swell of confidence of people really wanting
Speaker 2: to go out there and represent for themselves. Really heartwarming
Speaker 2: articles thet Yeah, because it's one of those things it's like,
Speaker 2: you don't need a fucking municipality to tell you that
Speaker 2: you can get together and celebrate like sorry and people.
Speaker 1: Do, and in fact, municipally approved parties oftentime is not
Speaker 1: the best ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in fact, they suck.
Speaker 1: But it's also National egg Day, the prices coming out,
Speaker 1: National Chocolate macaroon Day, and National Repeat Day. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that is. It looks like the Oh it's
Speaker 1: also National Repeat Death. Which day is thicking repeat? What
Speaker 1: the fuck?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's about playing a song on fucking repeat. I know,
Speaker 2: I know, shit, I'm about to do that with this.
Speaker 1: Bone bone bo bone, boom bone. Tell me what you
Speaker 1: want to do, your little diamonds pepe. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien AKA.
Speaker 2: You you look like you peed. Wow. I didn't even realize.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I could have guessed.
Speaker 1: But you say it's water ice, but you say it's
Speaker 1: water ice.
Speaker 2: Oh, Jackie, you you look like you pe, but you
Speaker 2: say it's wood or ice. We're going to do this
Speaker 2: twelve house? Would you say it?
Speaker 1: Now? That one?
Speaker 2: Courtesy of Patty eleven twenty on the discord. Shout out
Speaker 2: to Patty eleven twenty. Okay, Patty, Yeah, your shout out
Speaker 2: to just a tiny anecdote. That is the only thing
Speaker 2: that people ride AKA is for me about anymore? Yep,
Speaker 2: you got nothing else going on, Jack, You pee yourself
Speaker 2: and blame the wood Ice. I mean it's facts. It
Speaker 2: does appear to be what happened. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
Speaker 1: co host, mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Miles Gray aka on the mic is Miles GG.
Speaker 2: Shout out to me right now. I can't look as
Speaker 2: somebody who grew up idolizing cocaine rap, as someone who
Speaker 2: went to a private high school and was nowhere near
Speaker 2: you dealing cocaine in my teenage years.
Speaker 1: Clips.
Speaker 2: This album's coming out in about a month and nine days,
Speaker 2: and they just they had a new track come out
Speaker 2: with produced by Pharrell, and the first line is yellow
Speaker 2: diamonds look like peep and I can't. It's an earworm,
Speaker 2: I think because it feels like a rhyme from twenty
Speaker 2: four years ago that we're just like, yeah, dude, that's
Speaker 2: just sick.
Speaker 1: We did you put? Everything from twenty four years ago
Speaker 1: is coming back?
Speaker 2: Yeah, nine to eleven, probably back for the president's ignoring
Speaker 2: daily presidential briefings. It's all coming back, y'all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Miles. We're thrilled to be joined in
Speaker 1: our third seat once again by a writer who's one
Speaker 1: of the best podcast hosts and executive producers doing it.
Speaker 1: You know him from stuff they don't want you to know,
Speaker 1: ridiculous history missing in Arizona.
Speaker 2: It's Ben Bowler, AKA.
Speaker 3: You're right, AKA you're in trouble AKA Noil wob Nebb.
Speaker 3: Shout out to our earlier conversation about spelling things backwards.
Speaker 2: Noilb Neb, Dude, Yeah, that's a sick ass spot like
Speaker 2: Star Wars name Noil lob Nebb. Yeah, and or in
Speaker 2: the show Andler Yeah, maybe it's like a tertiary character,
Speaker 2: you know, of course, And did you see nil Neb?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. And then I was still trying to I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's like something to do with pee backwards.
Speaker 1: What what is I just figured, yeah, it's your name.
Speaker 3: It's his name, you guys back, jeez, we solve the mystery.
Speaker 3: What's up you guys? I was thinking about I was
Speaker 3: thinking about you all earlier. I am so glad to
Speaker 3: h to join you again. And shout out to our
Speaker 3: producer Justin Man. This time, I'm not going to mess.
Speaker 2: Up the audio. You got my word? Okay, it's been yeah,
Speaker 2: I say every time, Yeah, I know it is. We're
Speaker 2: gonna leave you this time. Trust then verify Reagan jokes.
Speaker 1: All Right, it's great to have you back, Ben, We're
Speaker 1: thrilled to have you. We're going to get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
Speaker 1: going to tell the listeners a couple of the things
Speaker 1: that we're talking about today. We're just gotta peak behind
Speaker 1: the curtain at the at the Trump administration, just in
Speaker 1: terms of like how he's learning the most important information
Speaker 1: that a president can learn from the presidential daily briefing,
Speaker 1: which I didn't know was optional, but apparently is. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, even Biden was was not hitting one hundred
Speaker 1: on these he wasn't. He was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a presidential brief daily briefing day.
Speaker 1: It's let's make that a presidential weekly briefing. This guys,
Speaker 1: I'm sleepy, yeah, but name something you do every day
Speaker 1: other than impossible impossible for me to think of anything. Anyways,
Speaker 1: moving on to the second story of the Daily Zeitgeist,
Speaker 1: Tim Walls has some ideas of how Democrats should be
Speaker 1: interacting with the Trump administration.
Speaker 2: From the New York Times. This revelation from him won't
Speaker 2: say bean back, it.
Speaker 1: Does see he does seem like the most significant figure
Speaker 1: to be making sense on this front.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg's next movie is going to be his first
Speaker 1: big alien movie since I guess, I mean, like it
Speaker 1: seems like it's like Alien. It like it's written by him,
Speaker 1: like ET and Close Encounters. It was shooting in New
Speaker 1: Jersey around the time.
Speaker 2: Of the drone invasion.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody I don't know about that,
Speaker 1: but it's also going to be I think the first
Speaker 1: big alien movie. Posts like a lot of the UAP disclosures,
Speaker 1: So just curious to check in with Pat about where
Speaker 1: he's at with UAP stuff and drones. Also, yeah, drones,
Speaker 1: And we'll talk about Oreo's parent company is suing a
Speaker 1: company that Aldi. They're like a German brand that like
Speaker 1: does discount versions of famous you know Oreos chips, Ahoy
Speaker 1: Nutter butter, and I admire their moxie. You guys, they're
Speaker 1: they're just changing the words and copying everything else from
Speaker 1: the packaging.
Speaker 2: Definitely, it's got big Sherry Bobbins energy, all of that
Speaker 2: plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, Ben Bolin, we do like to ask our guests,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, yeah, guys, I was looking through this stuff.
Speaker 3: One thing another p joke that I fell into before
Speaker 3: without even knowing we were going to talk about this
Speaker 3: is you, guys know Bigfoot rightly, but aware of the idea.
Speaker 3: There's a version of Bigfoot as encryptid out in the
Speaker 3: interior of China, and its name is I guess in
Speaker 3: English would say urin y E R E N. And
Speaker 3: so we did our best on stuff they don't want
Speaker 3: you to know, to do an entire episode about the
Speaker 3: scientific investigation into the existence reported of this creature without
Speaker 3: doing p jokes, and I want to be honest, we
Speaker 3: fucking failed.
Speaker 2: Yeah we could. We couldn't there it's right there. You know.
Speaker 3: We're no push of t but we are.
Speaker 2: Fans of punns. I guess it's just you're downstream. You're
Speaker 2: downstream of Yeah, well are thank you downstream downstairs, no.
Speaker 3: Joke left behind, we like. What's interesting about this for
Speaker 3: any fans of cryptids is that, unlike the Bigfoot stuff
Speaker 3: here in the US or Canada, in China, partially due
Speaker 3: to the aftermath of the revolution, the Communist Revolution, there
Speaker 3: was this move to replace superstition with science. Right to
Speaker 3: look at spirituality as an opiate for the masses, et cetera.
Speaker 3: And so they poured a lot of money into going
Speaker 3: into these mountainous remote regions of China and trying to
Speaker 3: find this.
Speaker 1: Thing to explain it. Basically, they're like taking it seriously.
Speaker 1: They're like, it's out there and we're gonna find it.
Speaker 3: Like imagine, okay, imagine if all of us listening tonight.
Speaker 3: We we went to the White House and we said, hey, guys, uh,
Speaker 3: we need millions of dollars to look for Bigfoot, and
Speaker 3: it needs to be a federal program. And the White
Speaker 3: House said, yeah, let me fuck it.
Speaker 2: That's what happens. Like you have to ask RFK. He's
Speaker 2: like the parent that's asleep at the wheel that he makes. Hey,
Speaker 2: can we like something billion dollars like Bigfoot? Yeah? I
Speaker 2: feel you have. Don Junior pitched r FK on this.
Speaker 2: It'd be happening tomorrow. You know you don't think he has.
Speaker 1: He's like, here, dude, dude, what are we going to
Speaker 1: do with about the fucking yetti threat. Man, They've already
Speaker 1: got like a line.
Speaker 2: Of coolers and ship man and cups and stuff. What's next?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to confirm because Ben does sometimes
Speaker 1: write down at Searchestree it's underrated, overrated before And I
Speaker 1: just I think it's probably a smart move that you
Speaker 1: changed it from how to test if the bathwater content
Speaker 1: of a soap that you ordered through the mail.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that's between us.
Speaker 2: Man. You said you're going to be cool. Yeah, No, I.
Speaker 1: Just I think that was probably the right Definitely cut
Speaker 1: this out. Oh great, what is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2: All right? This speaking of MPR and being a little.
Speaker 3: Folksy tib waltz stuff with this. I was hanging out
Speaker 3: in a place where people don't really do small talk
Speaker 3: and I realized that, well, hanging actually with people from Finland,
Speaker 3: and I thought that was a cultural stereotype. They don't
Speaker 3: do small talk, small sample size. But the ones I
Speaker 3: were kicking, I was kicking it with do not do
Speaker 3: small talk, and I kind of miss it. You know, Uh,
Speaker 3: maybe it's because I I spend time in Atlanta. You know,
Speaker 3: everybody in Atlanta talks to everybody else in the city
Speaker 3: as though you're vaguely related.
Speaker 4: Right, So the South is just small essentially, Yeah, the
Speaker 4: South is small talk. That's like most of your day
Speaker 4: is taken up by small talk in the South, Yeah,
Speaker 4: answer questions about your hat or T shirt? You like it?
Speaker 2: You like it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so I I it reminds me about
Speaker 3: your earlier explorations on mondanity. You know where you guys
Speaker 3: at on small talk? Do you guys do much small
Speaker 3: talk in your day to day lives? Or you just like, Hi,
Speaker 3: my name's Miles, my name's Jack. Does God exist?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that actually sounds kind of like our text message is.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean small talk. I don't personally,
Speaker 2: I'm not great at like making up things I don't
Speaker 2: care about out of thin air to talk to somebody. Usually,
Speaker 2: like the way I do small talk is I just
Speaker 2: try and like find out as much as I can
Speaker 2: about a person. I guess that's my thing. It's not
Speaker 2: like hey the weather, I'm like, oh, yeah, where are
Speaker 2: you from? So yeah, let me go through your contacts
Speaker 2: real quick.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know them. I don't know them. I don't
Speaker 1: know them. Oh they got money.
Speaker 2: I used to be terrified of that improv game.
Speaker 3: Do you guys remember that where they're like, hey, we're
Speaker 3: gonna get somebody's phone in the audience, and one of
Speaker 3: our performers will do lines just from these text messages
Speaker 3: jack off to pictures of their family.
Speaker 2: That was all those shows always got messy. They'd be like, yo,
Speaker 2: what do you this person exactly.
Speaker 3: That psychopath, But I hear what you're saying to me.
Speaker 3: I think that's one of the great differentiators.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Small talk gets a bad name when it's artificial, right,
Speaker 3: when it's let me make up something to say, you know,
Speaker 3: like we're we're in an elevator and someone says, oh,
Speaker 3: the floor eight and then in Atlanta, so it would
Speaker 3: be like, you know it, you know that's bullshit, that's weird,
Speaker 3: rights a little too much, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I seven eight nine or eight seven?
Speaker 1: Fuck?
Speaker 2: You know six is crazy. Fuck that's me doing small talk.
Speaker 2: And the new thing the kids are doing is trying
Speaker 2: to get people to say six seven and then they're ripped.
Speaker 1: They're ripped. They're referencing this like meme, rap song. It's
Speaker 1: I don't know, bro, I'm too online. Right now, Miles
Speaker 1: is hour tacking my brain because this teacher was like
Speaker 1: teenager correspondent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, my kids just asked me to add
Speaker 2: thirty four plus thirty three.
Speaker 1: I saw that, but it was like, I just I
Speaker 1: did the thing where. I mean, I wasn't in front
Speaker 1: of anyone. I was just on the internet, but I
Speaker 1: just was like, yeah, I get.
Speaker 4: It that.
Speaker 2: Your computer I did. I was sitting by myself looking
Speaker 2: at my phone. I go, I get that. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: did you say something? Yeah, because it's six seven, it's anyway,
Speaker 2: it's it's a rap song. Don't worry about it. If
Speaker 2: a kid tries to get you to say it, you
Speaker 2: just respond. Let's see what they say. What is something
Speaker 2: you think is over it? The penny? I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I think it's dumb. And yeah yeah, what.
Speaker 1: About ass pennies ub season one? Yeah, one of my favorites,
Speaker 1: the greatest confidence booster. I know there's a good chance
Speaker 1: he's handled one of my ass pennies.
Speaker 3: Which way, was the best thing the penny ever did?
Speaker 3: Actually that sketch man. When's the last time you guys
Speaker 3: peaked for something with cash just a penny?
Speaker 2: Okay, those are two very different questions. I bought a
Speaker 2: street hot dog to like four days ago with cash pennies.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I don't know. Yeah, it's been.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think the last time I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've got a penny, like as part of the transaction, right,
Speaker 1: it was probably like when they used to be like
Speaker 1: to give a penny, take a penny thing a little.
Speaker 3: Change cup at the counter. It's weird because we're increasingly
Speaker 3: moving toward a society that does not use physical currency.
Speaker 3: Right aside from this is not like an RFK junior
Speaker 3: ad to run and buy gold or whatever. But it's
Speaker 3: weird that it's taken so long for the United States
Speaker 3: to collectively walk away from the penny. Canada did it
Speaker 3: a while back. Other countries have done it. They just
Speaker 3: round stuff up the nearest five cents.
Speaker 1: That's what I've My concern is, like like the scheme
Speaker 1: in office space where everything's just like round and and
Speaker 1: they're just like keeping all of that.
Speaker 2: I'm like with I feel like that.
Speaker 1: Money is just all going to the worst people in
Speaker 1: the world. I think I have to assume it's going
Speaker 1: like any rounding in any direction is not going to
Speaker 1: be down to benefit the consumer. It's going to be
Speaker 1: up to benefit whoever, whoever the richest person involved in
Speaker 1: that product is.
Speaker 3: So let's get in on it now, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Like if podcasting doesn't work out, just like
Speaker 3: in that nineteen nineties film Hackers, you'll make like all
Speaker 3: the timely refs, all the timely refs. I'm putting my
Speaker 3: finger to my vein right here or artery. I can't
Speaker 3: remember a finger on the pulse. Not all the jokes
Speaker 3: are gonna land. But yeah, fuck pennies, man, I'm just
Speaker 3: so tired of them. Like, wait, are you using a
Speaker 3: lot of pennies? Then you say this like someone who
Speaker 3: has a handle pennies?
Speaker 2: Pennies? Does I pay you? And pennies?
Speaker 1: I shouldn't the deliveries here? Yeah, it's just sucking a
Speaker 1: dump truck. Yeah, it looks like all workers just like
Speaker 1: sliding that thing open. He's just like fucking evening it
Speaker 1: out on your driveway. Uh.
Speaker 2: I wish I made that many pennies.
Speaker 3: No, they just it costs more to make them than
Speaker 3: they are worth. Right, you could say utility of value.
Speaker 3: After a certain amount of time, the penny would justify
Speaker 3: its cost of production, which is something like two or
Speaker 3: three cents I guess. But they're mainly made of zinc.
Speaker 2: Is there any conspiracy theories around pennies? I feel like
Speaker 2: this has to be ripe for conspiracy theories, like I
Speaker 2: feel like it's some ship, some guide.
Speaker 1: To you know why they fucking have pennies?
Speaker 2: Right? Oh yeah, yeah, it just like hits the bog
Speaker 2: because of course it's a bog.
Speaker 1: It's like, wow, damnit, let you smoking here like that?
Speaker 1: You're just my brother's anyway, you know Mark, are you?
Speaker 1: Are you smoking in here again? We don't leave that
Speaker 1: guy alone about the pennies.
Speaker 2: Outside If you want to hit this outside, yeah, I
Speaker 2: bet you there are it is.
Speaker 1: I mean we mentioned it off handedly that it's there's
Speaker 1: a big lobbying component, like the zinc lobbying industry is
Speaker 1: all up in the history of pennies and basically the
Speaker 1: only reason that it still exists is yeah, you know
Speaker 1: the zinc lobby. Okay, thank you, that's right, the old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we should get with big zinc. I think
Speaker 3: what the next move is fill them out.
Speaker 2: Makes even the announcement of the pennies being retired, they're like,
Speaker 2: we just have one more like palette of a billion
Speaker 2: blank pennies to get through and then were you know,
Speaker 2: they're like, we're not going to cut them off cold
Speaker 2: turkey guys, right right, right, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Strategic reserves of pennies. I'm sure, yeah, blank pennies. Though
Speaker 1: also interesting to find out that they're there's such a thing.
Speaker 1: I mainly, you know, I have a lot of money
Speaker 1: invested in commemorative.
Speaker 2: You know, the like you get zoos where they reshape it.
Speaker 2: That's kind of at the l A Zoo, all those
Speaker 2: machines out of order, a lot of the La Zoo La.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's kind of a bummer, dude. It's so
Speaker 2: they built that ship in the nineties and just left it.
Speaker 2: They're just like, you know, what's crazy. I last time
Speaker 2: I went, I was nineteen ninety one, and then I
Speaker 2: was the zoo was such an eld like me for
Speaker 2: me growing up, we just never went. And then I
Speaker 2: was like, but they did.
Speaker 1: It's it's nicer now for sure, but it was anyway
Speaker 1: I couldn't. What do you guys, damp pennies, What do
Speaker 1: you guys think about zoos in general?
Speaker 2: Like animal jail? Yeah, animal prison? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's cool. What do you mean animal jail? I think
Speaker 2: it's cool as hell. Wait what did you call what
Speaker 2: did you just call animal jail?
Speaker 3: Oh we got we've got the Atlanta Zoo and I
Speaker 3: when I when I go see the Atlanta Zoo, which
Speaker 3: is next to a very strange thing that closed a
Speaker 3: while back called the cycle Bama. At the Atlanta Zoo,
Speaker 3: it's just it is a bummer, you know, to see elephants, oh,
Speaker 3: to see other really intelligent animals and then like make
Speaker 3: eye contact with you and say like why are these
Speaker 3: smaller apes screaming at me and tapping on the glass.
Speaker 2: There were there was this one chimp so stressed out,
Speaker 2: like picking like their their their fur out. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, bro, like this is oh yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's it's animal jail. I'm an abolitionist. I would say that,
Speaker 2: but my child had to see a giraffe and I
Speaker 2: don't have money to go to Africa. Giraffes are wild,
Speaker 2: like you see those things in the person. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: there's one thing the animals jail is good for. It's
Speaker 2: a giraffe. Yeah, I mean, go see them in their
Speaker 2: natural habitat backyard essentially Griffith Park.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't, I don't know, man, without getting
Speaker 3: too so boxy about it, you know, animal conservation efforts
Speaker 3: are huge. You know that that I think that makes
Speaker 3: a real difference. Giraffes, like we were talking about earlier.
Speaker 3: With camels, they are goofy like you kind I do
Speaker 3: have to see it in person to marvel at the
Speaker 3: bizarre Shyamalan nature of evolution, Like how many I don't
Speaker 3: know this, I haven't I haven't researched this, But how
Speaker 3: many many eras of evolution did it take for the
Speaker 3: draft to be like the final form of its thing?
Speaker 1: I believe that the draft was the first thing and
Speaker 1: we've all just like kind of evolved into this. They
Speaker 1: were like really long neck copy yeah, and then everything
Speaker 1: else this yeah, and then it was a bad idea
Speaker 1: and they were like maybe maybe not maybe like opposable
Speaker 1: thumbs instead shorter neck drafts, Like I don't know, should
Speaker 1: we just be horses or something?
Speaker 2: And camels are like, you guys are wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to blowing it all right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break. Yeah, we'll be right back. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about some news. We'll be right back, and we're back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like I promised. It's like Papa promised.
Speaker 2: Oh like I said, and you all doubted me. I said,
Speaker 2: no way, did I guy? Did I tell you guys?
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 3: Probably got I ran into someone who thought the abbreviation
Speaker 3: AF for you know, as fu. Yeah, they thought it
Speaker 3: stood for as foretold, and it just puts such a
Speaker 3: positive spin on all the things I read.
Speaker 1: So this dude is high as foretold, This tact was
Speaker 1: good as fore told anyway, So person really to like
Speaker 1: fantasy books as the as the prophecy hath foretold. So
Speaker 1: so Jack AF, you're back, Yes, we're back, AF. We're
Speaker 1: back a truly in accordance with the prophecy as a
Speaker 1: prophecy mm hm. And yeah, we just want to talk
Speaker 1: about what's going on behind the scenes. We everything from
Speaker 1: the outside looks good. Yeah, that's the trub administration. What's
Speaker 1: it like to be working there, trying to trying to
Speaker 1: get through that noggin?
Speaker 2: Look on the surface, the wealthiest man alive is in
Speaker 2: the Oval office high ready yeah, alma ready, Yeah.
Speaker 1: But he's been I think he's been a little too much,
Speaker 1: mom spaghetti. Yeah, it's fucking up his bladder.
Speaker 2: But again, yeah, with Trump right, famously an idiot who
Speaker 2: can't read and only can absorb information if it's being
Speaker 2: said to him by a blonde woman on a television
Speaker 2: So what is Director of National Intelligence Toulci Gabbert to
Speaker 2: do when the president doesn't read his Presidential Daily Brieface,
Speaker 2: you know, the little document that the president reads every
Speaker 2: day that you get an idea of the ongoing threats
Speaker 2: to the country faces. He has been in office one
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three days. This is June second, so
Speaker 2: he's been in office as we record this, he's been
Speaker 2: at office one hundred thirty three days. And guess how
Speaker 2: many daily briefings this man has engaged with fourteen since
Speaker 2: taking office. Fourteen too, out of one thirty three.
Speaker 1: During his first administration, if you remember, they're like we
Speaker 1: had to change it to one page with a flip
Speaker 1: book attached at the bottom, so.
Speaker 2: It's a little more interactive. And it came with a
Speaker 2: like a coloring book sections to get him to sort
Speaker 2: of like look at the maps. And he only did
Speaker 2: that like fifty five times. So in his first run
Speaker 2: at president, he did he hit fifty five out of
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty three.
Speaker 1: Now fourteen four, going down a bit, Joe Biden less
Speaker 1: than weekly, that's like week and a half lee, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden hit ninety in this same period, do you
Speaker 1: guys have any idea how sleepy he was he hit
Speaker 1: ninety ninety. I mean that could be a lie where
Speaker 1: they're like he was just asleep and he was in there,
Speaker 1: and they're like.
Speaker 3: Right, he.
Speaker 2: Just like went in and like read to him while
Speaker 2: he was asleep. He's probably getting it. Just threw it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's pillow at night, so it absorbs question head
Speaker 1: question question.
Speaker 3: Okay, So just fourteen times so far in the second presidency,
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty three days in As you said, juweet,
Speaker 3: what if it's like for two weeks he was on
Speaker 3: point at everyone like something happened and.
Speaker 2: Then we had it gave out.
Speaker 1: I do think that's kind of how he tends to operate,
Speaker 1: like with his adderall binges or whatever it is that
Speaker 1: like gets him. You know, he'll he'll be tweeting through
Speaker 1: the night for like ten days in a row, and then.
Speaker 2: He'll be sleepy. He'll go away for a few days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to reach that bar of when he used
Speaker 1: to fall in sleepless.
Speaker 2: Sleep inside of us. We were just talking Ben, did
Speaker 2: you know the lyrics to Semi Charmed kind of Life?
Speaker 1: But ye know, yeah, yeahwe has lyrics about it's basically
Speaker 1: explicitly about Crystal Myth myth and references the time when
Speaker 1: wanting you to get back to a time when he
Speaker 1: fell asleep inside some of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 3: That was one of those songs with the where I
Speaker 3: think the lyrics went over a lot of heads. Would
Speaker 3: you hear it as a kid?
Speaker 2: I know you knew he's I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 2: there's an alternate reading. He's talking a lot about ice
Speaker 2: falling asleep inside of you.
Speaker 1: That could be a reference to Empire strikes back when
Speaker 1: Luke has to sleep inside the ton Tony.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you guys just kind of know.
Speaker 2: You're just the most childish interpretation that has no idea
Speaker 2: what meth is. I'm like, no, that's Star Wars. Yeah,
Speaker 2: think about it. Yeah, you guys are pushing a Crystal
Speaker 2: Myth right now. Yeah, yeah, Crystal Myth narrative. So he's
Speaker 2: so Trump's already getting like the dumbed down spark notes
Speaker 2: version in crayon.
Speaker 3: And it's just his name a lot too. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: they were told to always on his name in Yeah,
Speaker 3: they have this.
Speaker 1: Written into the scriptap snaps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, verthetical cat whispers.
Speaker 1: Shaking keys. I remember learning that Ronald Reagan used to
Speaker 1: the presidential Daily Briefing that everybody else would get were
Speaker 1: these like thick documents that they had to get through
Speaker 1: before they started their day. And then Reagan was like,
Speaker 1: give it to me, like each one of these pages
Speaker 1: can be a paragraph. And everyone's like, and that's how
Speaker 1: dumb he was. And now we're at the point where
Speaker 1: like they're not doing it, and when they do, they're like,
Speaker 1: read it to me slowly and.
Speaker 2: More. Give me America is a long line exactly. So again,
Speaker 2: what is Tulsi to do? And I think that's easy,
Speaker 2: as we said in the beginning, just make it look
Speaker 2: like his favorite TV show, Fox News these NBC News quote.
Speaker 2: Gabrett also reportedly also reportedly consulted with current and form
Speaker 2: more intelligence officials. I'm bringing in a Fox News producer
Speaker 2: and host to reshape the presidential Daily Briefings, which are
Speaker 2: usually text and image based for national security reasons, to
Speaker 2: deliver the intel in broadcast form.
Speaker 1: They said.
Speaker 2: The process could involve granting Fox the Fox News team
Speaker 2: security clearance to access classified information. Once so, I said,
Speaker 2: quote the problem with Trump is that he doesn't read.
Speaker 2: He's on broadcast all the time, So they just say, yeah,
Speaker 2: this could happen, although White House spokesman Davis Ingle said
Speaker 2: the report is quote libelous garbage from unnamed sources. Also,
Speaker 2: how'd you find out? How you do? How you do that?
Speaker 1: Do they once they get this up and running, because
Speaker 1: this is like the solution to their problems and like
Speaker 1: kind of I'm kind of impressed that they came up
Speaker 1: with this idea. Do they tell him that it's or
Speaker 1: do they like to be like, look what's on the TV? Yeah, hey, Bud,
Speaker 1: you want your iPad?
Speaker 2: Your iPad time? Yeah, okay, here you go?
Speaker 1: And then what it shows like Fox and Friends, like
Speaker 1: a Fox and Friends made up Fox and Friends broadcast
Speaker 1: where suddenly, like Brian kill Meat is.
Speaker 2: Like President Trump, there is an urgent matter unfolding in
Speaker 2: Sudan that needs to be addressed, Please choose one of
Speaker 2: the following options. Anyway, So do we designate Pride flags
Speaker 2: as terrorist symbols?
Speaker 1: What do you guys think?
Speaker 3: So the pitches Fox News creating bespoke propaganda or broadcast
Speaker 3: they have so.
Speaker 2: For him, it sounds like the the the medium in
Speaker 2: which he will absorb the information is if it's a
Speaker 2: TV show that's in the aesthetic of his favorite TV show.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's gonna be like, hello,
Speaker 2: I'm Toulci Gabbard and these are the top threats America's
Speaker 2: faces blonde, turn it off her hair?
Speaker 1: Who does you think she is?
Speaker 2: Storm?
Speaker 1: What rogue?
Speaker 2: No one's a ro Roman Roe. Not in my book.
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna break it and be like, this
Speaker 1: is breaking news, sir, the presidential you know, every morning, sir,
Speaker 1: breaking news.
Speaker 2: Check this out. Oh my gosh. And that we can
Speaker 2: do commercials too. That's what's really getting his head, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Possible, I mean like advertised to the president of the
Speaker 1: United States, Like that is truly like kind of the
Speaker 1: ultimate future of the thing is like everything being privatized.
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't you create a broadcast only for the
Speaker 1: president advertised to Jeff Bezos and fucking Elon Musk and
Speaker 1: you know, just have have a show that is just
Speaker 1: for one audience.
Speaker 3: I mean, do you does your bladder have too much ketamine?
Speaker 3: As fore told a president m hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we'll see where this goes. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 2: the what we've been hearing about this since the beginning
Speaker 2: of the administration is that he just can't be bothered
Speaker 2: with these daily briefings. And again that's when all the
Speaker 2: cabinet heads are like, okay, most pressing things, what are
Speaker 2: we doing, mister president? And this is how you end
Speaker 2: up fucking just completely asleep at the wheel while some
Speaker 2: terrible shit happens or some funk up that could have
Speaker 2: been prevented just unfolds before everyone's eyes.
Speaker 3: Did you know where the countries are? Does he know
Speaker 3: that they're they're like two Koreas?
Speaker 2: No, No, No, He's like he's like there's like there's
Speaker 2: no Korea and fun in Korea.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine, Like if you asked if he knew
Speaker 1: where the countries are like that, that would be an
Speaker 1: amazing just test, Like just catch Halsey Gabbard off, you know,
Speaker 1: off the cuff and ask her that question and see
Speaker 1: her try not to laugh, like there's no way she'd
Speaker 1: be able to get through it.
Speaker 2: Does he understand all the spatial relationships of the sort
Speaker 2: of the geography in the region.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I just had bubble spatial relations I was laughing
Speaker 1: at how ridiculous that question is. Because of course the
Speaker 1: president understands the spatial relations and that those countries are
Speaker 1: over the sea as he refers to them.
Speaker 3: And we are an active exploration of object permanence.
Speaker 1: Right, Truly, it feels like this is he needs it,
Speaker 1: He needs it said in front of him in the
Speaker 1: way that he likes it said. And again this is
Speaker 1: this should be so everything should be so fucking scandalous.
Speaker 1: But this guy is an absolute failure at everything, including
Speaker 1: just fucking doing the paying attention part about being president,
Speaker 1: aside from all the fascistic nonsense and the hatred.
Speaker 2: Like the guy can't even fucking the guy can't even
Speaker 2: president at all, and we're still I don't know why
Speaker 2: the every headline should be like this guy's a mess
Speaker 2: and we're all gonna die, like he's yeah, he baby.
Speaker 1: It's it is wild because then you think about what
Speaker 1: he's getting instead of the daily presidential brief in right,
Speaker 1: he's getting fucking whatever is coming through his algo on
Speaker 1: truth social you know.
Speaker 2: So that's it feels dangerous.
Speaker 3: I mean, who knew that fifty cent would end up
Speaker 3: being like the operative The way Dennis Rodman had to
Speaker 3: go to uh was Kim Jong und or ill I
Speaker 3: can't remember, But now we have we have Curtis going
Speaker 3: in to persuade Trump not to interfere with the Diddy trial.
Speaker 3: And just like we have, he has weaponized his legendary
Speaker 3: pettiness and now now he's the hero the court's need.
Speaker 3: I think we're in a tough spot.
Speaker 2: It is so weird. It's like, rather than being like,
Speaker 2: let the legal system do it, saying you need a
Speaker 2: piece of shit fifty cent in all his hating to
Speaker 2: be like no, like getting the keeping up on this story.
Speaker 2: What happened.
Speaker 1: He's trying because they're talking about a presidential pardon for Diddy,
Speaker 1: that that fifty cents, Like, hell no, I am not
Speaker 1: going to fucking let that happen. He said he would
Speaker 1: reach out to Trump personally to quote dissuade him from
Speaker 1: considering a pardon, which means theory of the Diddy pardon
Speaker 1: just that because they like probably partied together at some point.
Speaker 3: Man, I mean, yeah, there's definitely overlap. And then also,
Speaker 3: I mean the store is open. I think the going
Speaker 3: price is like a couple million, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I think it's freak freak of but we all know,
Speaker 2: we all know.
Speaker 1: Look, Donald Trump doesn't pardon black people until the polls open. Baby,
Speaker 1: you know, if you have to be white and not
Speaker 1: have killed another white person to get a pardon. Now
Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing now. If or white and you
Speaker 1: have and you only did money crimes, you get a party.
Speaker 2: If you're a person of color, that has to be
Speaker 2: something that he utilizes to.
Speaker 1: Help, you know, with his polling once the campaign.
Speaker 2: He's a huge cut his fan also, so I feel that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I saw his performance legendary folks.
Speaker 3: By the way, Miles is reading directly from a White
Speaker 3: House Chief of staff email. Ye, dude, he's legal team exactly.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't know if you've seen the flow chart,
Speaker 2: is is the subject black? Wait?
Speaker 1: Three years?
Speaker 2: Right? Well? Are they white and having killed another white person?
Speaker 1: Only did micromes?
Speaker 2: Okay, we can talk, we can talk.
Speaker 3: I derailed us, but I think I did it just
Speaker 3: because I am so part of my French fucking terrified
Speaker 3: of a world in which a guy who is the
Speaker 3: decider for deploy nuclear weapons has to have his silly
Speaker 3: little like.
Speaker 1: Has fifty cent in his ear Wluie show and then
Speaker 1: he has to have hold audience with fifty cent and
Speaker 1: now I mean like again, and I think this probably
Speaker 1: feeds into the next story about Tim Walls, like no
Speaker 1: one is talking about like we're still stuck in the
Speaker 1: fucking first administration. We've been like, whoa, that's not normal,
Speaker 1: rather than because I get it, all the every media
Speaker 1: outlet is like, dude's gonna fucking.
Speaker 2: Sue us into smootherreens. If we're like this guy is
Speaker 2: a waste and should not be anywhere near the office
Speaker 2: every day, it's more absurd than the last week. What
Speaker 2: the fuck is everyone doing around him? All of these
Speaker 2: people around him need to also answer. Are all of
Speaker 2: y'all fucking completely fucking off it?
Speaker 1: What is happening? But yeah, I will just say that
Speaker 1: they should have done this for Joe Biden and just
Speaker 1: like created an episode of Bonanza where like the you know,
Speaker 1: the messaging of like genocide is bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cowboys playing you partner, But yeah I did this?
Speaker 1: Is uh, Tim Walls coming through saying the obvious thing,
Speaker 1: But sometimes the obvious thing needs to be said over
Speaker 1: and over again screen to the Democratic Party, you know
Speaker 1: that they're they're still worried about favorability. I feel like
Speaker 1: we talked about yesterday how they're like, ohc's favorability has
Speaker 1: really skyrocketed.
Speaker 2: With like Obama.
Speaker 1: The Obamas like maybe maybe, maybe what maybe exactly. We
Speaker 1: don't want to say anything specific. We don't want to
Speaker 1: send people and make them uncomfortable. So just by saying
Speaker 1: things like maybe it doesn't have any action that might
Speaker 1: frighten people.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know the army. Anybody gives a shit about
Speaker 2: it is like somebody who will do something.
Speaker 1: That's the the Democrats catch phrase trademarked maybe Democrats maybe.
Speaker 2: The truck. But yeah, I mean like maybe, you know,
Speaker 2: there's like two school I don't know, there's the mainstream
Speaker 2: Democratic school of thought with the you know, Hakeem Jeffreys,
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer's, James Cobbles.
Speaker 5: Of it just like just lay down and die and
Speaker 5: let them have their way with your unconscious body for
Speaker 5: everybody to see. And then the voters will be so
Speaker 5: disgusted by the scrupulous behavior that they will have no
Speaker 5: choice but to usher into the status quo yet.
Speaker 1: Again, that is basically that one school of thought, and
Speaker 1: then everyone else is like everyone else who lives in
Speaker 1: the fucking world is like.
Speaker 2: Fucking fight these stupid fucks. What are you doing? And
Speaker 2: that's where Tim Wallace has been I mean, I get it.
Speaker 2: Maybe he is the authority here because he is the
Speaker 2: guy who kicked off the GOP is kind of weird, huh,
Speaker 2: which was a sick burden from the Midwest, right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just think they're kind of weird.
Speaker 1: You start meet up, you start hearing dun dun dun
Speaker 1: dun du like it's meet the Grahams about to playing ship,
Speaker 1: Like how do pretty come up with this ship? But yeah,
Speaker 1: he is saying this isn't a good and he's been
Speaker 1: saying like, if the fuck, if no one stands up,
Speaker 1: you are going to you're tuning to quote political roadkill
Speaker 1: because they're just gonna steamroll you. Quote this is what
Speaker 1: he said. Quote.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's time for us to be a little meaner.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's time for us to be a little set Maybe.
Speaker 2: He fully can't commit to this either, because we want
Speaker 2: plausible deniability that we actually ever believed anything we said.
Speaker 2: To be a little more fierce, okay, because we have
Speaker 2: to ferociously push back on this. And again I'll speak
Speaker 2: to my teacher colleagues in here. The thing that bothers
Speaker 2: a teacher more than anything is to watch a bully.
Speaker 2: And when it's a child, you talk to him and
Speaker 2: you tell him why bullying's wrong. But when it's an
Speaker 2: adult like Donald Trump, you bully.
Speaker 1: The shit out of him back, You push it back,
Speaker 1: You make sure they know it's not there, because at heart,
Speaker 1: at heart, this is a weak, cruel man that.
Speaker 2: Takes it out and punches down on people. And he
Speaker 2: had a quote what they don't want to do is
Speaker 2: stand to to to and punch back with someone who's
Speaker 2: calling him out for what they do, who's being there.
Speaker 2: So you know, this is the basics some friction rhetorically,
Speaker 2: and they're and mind you, there are definitely people who
Speaker 2: are outspoken, but the party is not unified. No, I'm
Speaker 2: doing this, and that's where you need, That's where you
Speaker 2: have you typically strengthen numbers for this kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Like, the biggest problem with the Democratic Party, I feel
Speaker 1: like up through twenty twenty four has been their unwillingness
Speaker 1: to do anything that they thought might be risky in
Speaker 1: any way.
Speaker 2: And you're the ick people.
Speaker 1: People can recognize that, and people are like, well, in
Speaker 1: a system that is broken, those people are not who
Speaker 1: we should be voting for, right like and yeah, so
Speaker 1: multiple times, like Trump has very low favorability historically low
Speaker 1: favorability for a president who someone who ends up winning
Speaker 1: the presidency. But it's because people are like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't like him, but it seems like he will
Speaker 1: get things done in a system that seems broken, and
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party is just like do nothing, sit back
Speaker 1: and let them dig their own grave, and like that
Speaker 1: is just basically the opposite of what like Even even
Speaker 1: when Walson was like, we I think we should call
Speaker 1: them weird, they like backed away from that.
Speaker 2: They were like, that is that I just I don't know,
Speaker 2: that might not test well in the end. We don't
Speaker 2: want to.
Speaker 1: We don't want to. Yeah, yeah, we don't want to
Speaker 1: put off weird America because if it's like flyover states
Speaker 1: or something, it's like, oh god, we don't want to
Speaker 1: lose the weird vote. Like we actually want jd Vance
Speaker 1: to vote for us. Yeah, that's actually the demographic. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go hard trying to get jd Vance to vote
Speaker 1: for US.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Our goal wasn't. Our goal wasn't. Yeah. Our
Speaker 2: goal wasn't to have more votes than the Trump campaign.
Speaker 2: Our vote was just to get like maybe jd Vance
Speaker 2: and like Liz Cheney to vote for us, that would
Speaker 2: be amazing because.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of people banging furniture, you know,
Speaker 3: and we've got to represent them.
Speaker 1: We got to get that vote.
Speaker 2: We got to get out these guys seem weird.
Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up, dude, Shut the fun up, and
Speaker 1: don't talk about corporate greed or gaza or or diversity
Speaker 1: or fucking police.
Speaker 2: Shut then up. Yeah, let's take a quick break. We'll
Speaker 2: come back. We'll check with our McKenzie advisors to see
Speaker 2: how all that tested and went over, and then we'll
Speaker 2: come back and uh, try some yeah, talk about some
Speaker 2: stuff that isn't the news, and we're back. Mm. Well,
Speaker 2: Tom waits yeah, the tool Man, Ye, Tom Waite's probably
Speaker 2: better man man Boom, the tool Man tailor guy. Guys,
Speaker 2: we don't want to hit in comedy and cigarettes. We
Speaker 2: don't want to exclude the tims or the Toms. We
Speaker 2: don't know what tim. No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: This isn't really that much news here, but I am
Speaker 1: just curious, like they have my attention on this one.
Speaker 1: The Spielberg's new movie, I guess is going to be
Speaker 1: called The Dish. It is a like extraterrestrial focused movie.
Speaker 1: It's he wrote the story. It is about gossip.
Speaker 2: It's the story of the Soup with Joel McHale. Wow.
Speaker 1: Now we don't really know anything about it other than
Speaker 1: that it's going to be about aliens. It's shot in
Speaker 1: Cape May, New Jersey, around the time of a lot
Speaker 1: of that New Jersey drone stuff. But it's also going
Speaker 1: to be one of the first movies about aliens, one
Speaker 1: of the first big movies about aliens that's coming out
Speaker 1: after a lot of the UAP kind of but is
Speaker 1: being taken seriously?
Speaker 2: Did did Spielberg say anything about like that, like the
Speaker 2: you know, inspiration for the movie or is it just
Speaker 2: those things? Was like, I don't know, I've been thinking
Speaker 2: about this for like forty five years. Yeah, it could
Speaker 2: be just a time thinking about it for forty five years.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that indicates it might not
Speaker 1: be a present day thing is that it's a costume designers,
Speaker 1: the costume designer from West Side Story. So boy, he's
Speaker 1: not saying that everybody's dressed exactly like the characters from
Speaker 1: West Side Story.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you're saying maybe though, Yeah, you're saying maybe,
Speaker 6: you're saying I mean maybe, I don't think a costume
Speaker 6: design is like, and they only do nineteen forties and
Speaker 6: fifties street gangs that kind of vibe.
Speaker 2: I hear to pull a cool grease singer here. That
Speaker 2: Dish was actually the show Danielle Fischelle from Boy Meets
Speaker 2: World used to host, and like I knew there was
Speaker 2: an actual show called The Dish. It was a real okay,
Speaker 2: So maybe this is like these topanga from Boy World.
Speaker 3: The film adaptation Topenga meets Aliens.
Speaker 2: I love it. I hope like the best version is
Speaker 2: Steven Spielberg was like, I saw this talk and it
Speaker 2: really got me thinking about a story that I could tell.
Speaker 2: I would love to see that version of like Spielberg
Speaker 2: Spielbergie intake on the arrow we're in right now. But
Speaker 2: with this, I'm like, fine, whatever, I'll just take Nope.
Speaker 3: That's my interesting timeline question as well. You know, I
Speaker 3: love the I love the question about whether he was
Speaker 3: just thinking about this for the better part of a
Speaker 3: half century and it kind of comes to fruition now
Speaker 3: or I don't know. The timeline is like, as you
Speaker 3: were pointing out, Jack, he's shooting this in New Jersey
Speaker 3: around the same time as the still controversial New Jersey
Speaker 3: drone invasion, right, So there is a non zero possibility
Speaker 3: without dismissing people, there is a non zero possibility that
Speaker 3: maybe some folks saw.
Speaker 7: The shootingnes yeah, and they were like, those are aliens
Speaker 7: and they had you know, I like, what I would
Speaker 7: do is set up a dummy number that the production runs,
Speaker 7: so you could call to report the drones and then
Speaker 7: would be like, don't tell anybody about this.
Speaker 1: It's actually Stevie's new thing.
Speaker 2: We're doing you.
Speaker 1: Guys on uh, you know stuff they don't want you
Speaker 1: to know, land on the UAP stuff and I guess intended, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh.
Speaker 3: I've got to tell you we've received a lot of correspondence,
Speaker 3: especially with a New Jersey happening. We've received a lot
Speaker 3: of correspondence not just from people who say, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not in aviation, I saw some weird stuff in
Speaker 3: the sky, you know what what is going on? We've
Speaker 3: also received correspondence from pilots from like ATC folks who
Speaker 3: would be able to more so than the average person,
Speaker 3: understand what they're seeing, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: the kind of people who can see.
Speaker 2: They're like, I look at sky stuff all the time
Speaker 2: one of the main guys where I were.
Speaker 3: You know, let me give a shoulders right here, I
Speaker 3: kind of know what lights look like. It's true again,
Speaker 3: I read it.
Speaker 2: This jacket.
Speaker 1: Came with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you pay extra guys, you don't understand how
Speaker 3: it works.
Speaker 2: Special Yeah, dandrifs soaked? He hate you both. I'm sorry, Sorry,
Speaker 2: you're being a democrat here. Where'd you guys? Land?
Speaker 3: You're right, there's clearly always going to be some kind
Speaker 3: of technological discrepancy right between what what classified technology can
Speaker 3: reach and what the public knows about.
Speaker 2: That's a given. Uh.
Speaker 3: I think we often overestimate the chasm between those two things.
Speaker 3: But I can say it seems like there's there's something
Speaker 3: weird about it. But I'm still on the fence because
Speaker 3: the reporting is very much jam yesterday, jam tomorrow, but
Speaker 3: never ever jam today. You know, disclosure as a concept
Speaker 3: seems to be conveniently trotted out as a don't pay
Speaker 3: attention to this hand, look at this hands kind of thing,
Speaker 3: And that's that part is concerning. But I do think,
Speaker 3: you know, we we've talked about it in the past.
Speaker 3: I do think there is a greater public consensus regarding
Speaker 3: strange shit in the sky, right, and there is like
Speaker 3: drone technology is changing warfare and surveillance. Remember when that
Speaker 3: Remember one of those balloons came over from China and
Speaker 3: everybody freaked out by balloons, And there were some guys
Speaker 3: in Montana who are like, fuck it, man, I'll just
Speaker 3: shoot this out. Yeah, because American with that mentality. The
Speaker 3: reason I'm bringing that up to sew this up quickly
Speaker 3: is that with that mentality, we would naturally assume that
Speaker 3: if there were a huge amount of UAPs, as many
Speaker 3: as are being reported in the scuttle butt online, then
Speaker 3: someone would have successfully returned with evidence at that point.
Speaker 3: You know, that's the question. It's like looking for Bigfoot
Speaker 3: or the erin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think you think nobody's trying to fucking shoot
Speaker 2: a bigfoot, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Don't think someone's going to shoot one of these fucking
Speaker 1: alien things down if they fucking could, right right, if.
Speaker 2: They were there.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the question with uh when people
Speaker 3: from Western Europe thought that gorillas were a myth, right,
Speaker 3: one of the things that really changed their minds because
Speaker 3: they weren't going to listen to the people who actually
Speaker 3: lived in the area, or was finding poop.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: If a bigfoot exists, that where's the poop? If UAPs
Speaker 3: are that prominent, right, if they proliferate at the frequency described,
Speaker 3: then why isn't there anything?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, where's the poop?
Speaker 2: Did someone just bring back like a fucking chad gorilla
Speaker 2: turd like in this like in a six foot coffin
Speaker 2: and they're like, here's your evidence, and the like King Leopolds,
Speaker 2: like there's ships out there that is big.
Speaker 1: That was by the way, like Kingletta gotta take shots
Speaker 1: at the Belgian fuck with ifever I have a chance, terrible.
Speaker 2: Guy, all right.
Speaker 1: And finally, Mondelez International issuing Aldi Aldi a L d
Speaker 1: I or is that? Is that how I'm pronouncing it,
Speaker 1: claiming that the chain blatantly copies their products, including chips, ahoy,
Speaker 1: wheat thins and oreos. They're they're seeking monitory gages in
Speaker 1: a court order to bar Aldi from selling products they
Speaker 1: copy their trademarks. And we have some visual images here
Speaker 1: of the Nutter butter or as the the versions called
Speaker 1: peanut butter, crem chimps, ahoy or chocolate chip and oreo
Speaker 1: or just original, which is a wild claim. They just
Speaker 1: put original over top of like what are clearly meant
Speaker 1: to be oreos. And although packaging and coloring is is identical.
Speaker 2: It's like they you know, like in photoshop you take
Speaker 2: the eye dropper tool to be like I want this
Speaker 2: exact CMYK number, like this exact tone.
Speaker 1: There's like a white glow behind the oreos like against
Speaker 1: the exact same color of blue. Everything. It's it's kind
Speaker 1: of impressive, like just an amazing, amazingly ballsy just recreation
Speaker 1: the packaging.
Speaker 3: They didn't save anything for the swim back, that's for sure. Okay, Wait,
Speaker 3: so I get why if you're the mondole Ague people,
Speaker 3: I get why you would want to sue, right, because
Speaker 3: because you're.
Speaker 2: A greedy piece of shit and you can't stand that
Speaker 2: your overpriced.
Speaker 1: Product is now creating a market for people to buy
Speaker 1: a lower priced one, and they're just anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where that's where we're going with it. And
Speaker 3: because they remember how there are the knockoff cereal brands,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And then they're just they're
Speaker 3: in the same aisle, they're in a different shelf. Right,
Speaker 3: how have those people not been sued or have they
Speaker 3: been sued?
Speaker 2: And we're just not.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they have.
Speaker 2: They've threaded the needle enough where they're like, it's the
Speaker 2: red box and it's like the fruits circles, right, Like
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was at one point called like fruit
Speaker 2: hoops and had to can Dan Yeah and he you know, Tony,
Speaker 2: but this it has it's Simpson's, Sherry Bobbins, big Energy.
Speaker 2: Let's just switch a couple of letters like Ricky Rouse
Speaker 2: or Ronald Ruck.
Speaker 1: It must be I think more important for sales in
Speaker 1: this division for them to like actually trick people, because yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you could just like put the picture of
Speaker 1: the cookies on a white package.
Speaker 2: And be like, I mean, people know what oreos look like.
Speaker 2: But if it looks like it, I'm I'll be honest,
Speaker 2: it's like buying replica sneakers, Like it look like the
Speaker 2: real thing, so I'll try it done. Because if it
Speaker 2: wasn't like a nondescript sort of like you know, a
Speaker 2: blue blue stripe store brand kind of thing, then I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. But if you just give me that
Speaker 2: Oreole blue, I'm like, okay, and it's a dollar fifty cheaper. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean that was worth it. Yeah, Yeah, well, I
Speaker 2: mean again because this is like the whole thing. You see,
Speaker 2: there's like this whole drama on TikTok I saw with
Speaker 2: like cake bakers getting mad that Walmart was selling like
Speaker 2: a heart shaped cake and like home bakers like they're
Speaker 2: undercutting us, and a lot of people are like, look,
Speaker 2: there are different markets for things. There's the people that
Speaker 2: will only have money to buy the Walmart one, and
Speaker 2: then the people that will buy from you, So don't
Speaker 2: worry about competing in different lanes because you're offering a
Speaker 2: completely different thing. And this is like sort of the
Speaker 2: reverse of that where they're like, we need undercut anybody
Speaker 2: who's going to try and capture our fucking our customer base,
Speaker 2: because those are the people that we're trying to squeeze
Speaker 2: every fucking penny out of. Aren't there other is?
Speaker 3: Are aren't there other quote unquote like ripoffs or derivatives
Speaker 3: of these brands, like Hydrox cookies.
Speaker 2: Right, Hydros were the originals? I think?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Oreos got a lot of here.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, oh so oh see somebody should come back
Speaker 2: with Hydros is like the Boogeyman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know, Yeah, just uh to your point,
Speaker 1: like Mondolez has been suit. They were fined three hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty six million dollars by the European Commission for
Speaker 1: illegally limiting cross border sales across the EU in order
Speaker 1: to quote maintain higher prices for its products to the
Speaker 1: detriment of consumers. So they'll do whatever it takes to
Speaker 1: be able to keep prices as size they want by
Speaker 1: fucking up the competition. I think, yeah, I do. I've
Speaker 1: never understood the rules around this, Like what what is
Speaker 1: too close? Like the CBS and right aid brand medicines
Speaker 1: that are able to just be like real county on
Speaker 1: the packaging, like check the active ingredients and tail in
Speaker 1: all gel caps and you might be surprised at what
Speaker 1: you find. Like I'm assuming they're able to get away
Speaker 1: with that just because they have probably healthy corporate lobbying.
Speaker 2: Well, I also that I'm sure it's just that, like
Speaker 2: you don't own that specific active drug, we just use
Speaker 2: this this compound in your name brand thing.
Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, we got that shit too, right.
Speaker 3: We're actually providing free advertising for Tilant all gel caps exactly.
Speaker 1: We're telling them to compare right now, pick up the box, right, Oh,
Speaker 1: ours is cheaper?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, aldi just be like, check out the active ingredients
Speaker 1: in right, so justly toast corn syrup. We've got it
Speaker 1: all here, all right? Well, Ben Bolin, what a pleasure
Speaker 1: having you on the show. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you, hear you all that good stuff?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can check us out on stuff they don't
Speaker 3: want you to know. You can find us on Ridiculous History.
Speaker 3: I'd also like to I'd like to plug real quick
Speaker 3: a thing that's pretty important to me right now, a
Speaker 3: show called Wrongful Conviction. We were able to interview the
Speaker 3: legendary activist Leonard Peltier. This is a three part interview,
Speaker 3: you know. We were able to speak with mister Peltier
Speaker 3: where he is currently on house arrest in his home,
Speaker 3: so not quite free, but hopefully on the way. Please
Speaker 3: check it out. These are stories that more people need
Speaker 3: to know about. You can also dig through the Ridiculous
Speaker 3: History archives and find none other than Miles and Jack
Speaker 3: hanging out on Ridiculous History. I'm laughing because I'm checking
Speaker 3: the last time I sent you guys an email.
Speaker 2: We need to get back here in my house burned
Speaker 2: down man. Yeah, that's a pretty bulletproof excuse. Jack, You've
Speaker 2: got nothing uses it too.
Speaker 1: He uses it to us in the meeting earlier Miles
Speaker 1: House burned down.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: So wow, wow, So that's why you haven't been brushing
Speaker 1: as much. You have a really bad cavity mis stroke. Bran, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's harder on me, but.
Speaker 2: That's why I was. That's why I got the cavity doctors.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, what happened to my friend?
Speaker 3: Oh jeez, and I am required for a dear member
Speaker 3: of the Zeke gang to say hi to Albert and Hazel.
Speaker 3: You know this is real because I pulled up my
Speaker 3: phone to check the message.
Speaker 2: Where did you meet at? Albert and Hazel? I believe
Speaker 2: for animals?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's uh yeah, Well the their person is
Speaker 3: I ging.
Speaker 1: How do you know the person?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: I know the person because we we do comedy stuff together.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, I've totally a person in a corner here.
Speaker 3: This is supposed to be a brief shout out today.
Speaker 2: Man, don't make me start doing my small talk. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'll come here like a c I a fucking spook investigator.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to the bottom of this ship. Don't
Speaker 2: maybe small talk don't make me talk to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got like a fucking car battery with jumper cables.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do what he's talking about. Oh,
Speaker 1: I love to chit chat to you. What you feels
Speaker 1: like about the weather.
Speaker 2: It seems like a fucked up character at a TV show.
Speaker 2: It's like, bring them in for some small talk. Actually,
Speaker 2: I think you're so interesting. Oh God, how's it going today?
Speaker 2: Rejected Batman character? Day? Huh, it's small talk. Oh, it
Speaker 2: usually isn't hot this time of year.
Speaker 1: Is it.
Speaker 2: Answer to getting me with a phone book? Ben? Is
Speaker 2: there a working media you've been enjoying? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like this group I found called Delivery Boys.
Speaker 3: I would say they're kind of new old school hip hop.
Speaker 3: From what I can tell, it's these four guys in
Speaker 3: New York who were doing bicycle bodega deliveries and they
Speaker 3: started freestyling round. Well, I guess they were waiting on jobs.
Speaker 3: But they're pretty good. You could see in on on
Speaker 3: the radar other stuff like that. So their song Moccasin's
Speaker 3: is pretty clean.
Speaker 2: Nice miles. Where can people find you as their work media?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 2: Oh man, find me everywhere?
Speaker 1: Out Miles of Gray find jacket on the Basketball Podcast
Speaker 1: and Jack Boost talking about the finals matchup between the
Speaker 1: Thunder and the Pacer.
Speaker 2: The Thunder, the Thunders and the Pacer are going to
Speaker 2: be playing each other.
Speaker 1: Pretty It'll be fun. I'm actually pretty excited about it.
Speaker 2: Are both good at basketball, They're pretty good. I think
Speaker 2: the Lakers are better, even though they verifiably aren't as good.
Speaker 2: But I'm it's my man exactly, dude, and I'm just
Speaker 2: so on well since the house burned down, bro, let
Speaker 2: me have this anyway. Find us there. Also find me
Speaker 2: at four to twenty day Fiance talking about ninety day Fiance.
Speaker 2: A work of media I like at Kenwhite dot Besky
Speaker 2: dot social.
Speaker 1: It's like the Pope pat from Twitter, but now blue.
Speaker 2: Sky posted why were we not told that robo Joe
Speaker 2: has not had his firmware updated in eight years and
Speaker 2: is plagued by buggy programming and poor design choices? Thank you?
Speaker 2: I asked six MIT robotics experts who were deported to
Speaker 2: Burkina Fasso today from Jake Tapper in the New York Times.
Speaker 1: Oh, also one more thing to promote. I was on
Speaker 1: the latest episode of the Pastimes.
Speaker 2: That's Gareth and Dave from the dollip that's their other
Speaker 2: show they do where basically Dave reads us a newspaper
Speaker 2: from a very specific date in the before Times and
Speaker 2: we just have fun with it.
Speaker 1: It was super fun.
Speaker 2: So obviously, if y'all fuck with the Dollup, and I
Speaker 2: hope you fulk with me, you should definitely check out
Speaker 2: the latest episode of the Pastimes. Let's see some works
Speaker 2: of media I've been enjoying.
Speaker 1: Dricksen pro fi are Propagandist tweeted the rehearsal season three
Speaker 1: is going to end with Nathan Fielder playing shortstop for
Speaker 1: the San Diego Padres.
Speaker 2: That just feels right.
Speaker 1: Fernando and Igaz tweeted. The other two proves once again
Speaker 1: how ahead of its time it was. And it's the
Speaker 1: scene where they're in a publicist boardroom talking about how
Speaker 1: a new Hadid sister just dropped and they're like, yeah, her,
Speaker 1: her face actually took a little while to settle, but
Speaker 1: now she's looking great.
Speaker 2: Literally.
Speaker 1: On Friday, there is a pop Crave thing that said
Speaker 1: Gigi Hadid and Belahadid unveiled younger sister, twenty three year
Speaker 1: old Aiden Nis twenty years ago. Our dad Will single
Speaker 1: had a brief relationship that led to a pregnancy. We
Speaker 1: first connected in late twenty twenty three, and from that
Speaker 1: moment on, we've embraced Aiden with open arms. So they
Speaker 1: didn't exactly say her face took a little time to settle,
Speaker 1: but it's unveiled. A new sister hadid sister job put
Speaker 1: it in the intelligen Is brief, Right, Yeah, exactly, that's
Speaker 1: I think that's the only thing. A third just dropped
Speaker 1: breaking you hit the tower. And finally, Chris Wade tweeted,
Speaker 1: I love Del Taco, but their hot sauce color coordination
Speaker 1: is completely whack. And they have three hot sauce levels original, medium, hot.
Speaker 1: Uh the coloring, So I'll tell you this one is orange,
Speaker 1: one is black, one is red. Which would you think
Speaker 1: goes with which in ascending order of hotness from the
Speaker 1: least hot to hottest red, black, orange, that's what you
Speaker 1: would think is the correct? That isn't that what is correct?
Speaker 2: That is what's correct. That's what tacoco man. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I just answered that reflectively. Yeah, orange is the hottest.
Speaker 2: Orange should not be I feel like I know black right.
Speaker 2: This is where your Tago bell mind is coming in, right,
Speaker 2: because the black one equals death. And even then it's
Speaker 2: not that hot.
Speaker 3: You got to free your taco belt mind, man.
Speaker 1: Jack, you gotta do some psychical original Red then black
Speaker 1: as medium, I get it.
Speaker 2: Then hot as orange is so like, I don't even
Speaker 2: they're evoking that.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: Well, I have a my conspiracy pitch on this is
Speaker 3: as someone who's partially color blind, red green, color blind.
Speaker 3: What if the person in charge of coloring the sauces,
Speaker 3: you know, was like me, and they were like, you know,
Speaker 3: let's put the one in the middle. That's definitely. That's
Speaker 3: easy to tell you right now. We know just like
Speaker 3: you know traffic lights, m that's right?
Speaker 1: Is that how traffic lights are? Anyways, I'm not in
Speaker 1: charge of the lights. I can't believe they did you
Speaker 1: red green, color blind people like that. Fuck up, we're
Speaker 1: just winging it, man, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It looked right to me. What kind of a fucked
Speaker 2: up god would do that?
Speaker 1: Well? You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore
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Speaker 1: He's just noting that yellow diamonds in general look like
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Speaker 2: Look, the Clips is coming back once again. I loved
Speaker 2: Lord Willen when that album came out. I was a
Speaker 2: big Neptunes fan. So to have Pharrell producing this album
Speaker 2: a bit of uh yeah throwback regression for me musically.
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is Clips with ace trumpets produced by Pharrell.
Speaker 2: Yellow diamonds look like peepe. All right, we will link
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