1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: It's time to Catch a Cheater. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 2: Only on the Jubile Show. Ashley is on the phone 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: today for to Catch a Cheater. She's been with her 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: boyfriend Ryan for four years, but now she thinks something 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: might be going on, so we'll see if we're can 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: to help her out. Ashley, thanks for coming on the show. 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Sorry it has to be this way. What's going on? 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I've heard this so many times 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 3: and never thought that I would call it, but here 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: I am. So we've yeah, we've been together four years, 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: you know, ups and down like anybody else. I mean, 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 3: not what you see on Instagram with couples. But I 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 3: kind of just feel like he's done with the relationship. 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: So it's just kind of like heavy on my heart 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: right now. So I just want to test it. I 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: want to test it. And so basically, what's going on. 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: I used to travel a lot for work, but now 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: I'm not, and he's been traveling for his job. But 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: it just keeps kind of picking up, like he'll he'll 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: fly off somewhere for a week, and then he comes 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: home for a couple of days, and then he leaves again. 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: And then when he does come home, which has been like, 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: you know, increasing over the last couple of months, Like 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: when he's going away, so when he's coming home, he 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: always seems like he has something better to do. So 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 3: it's it's starting to be kind of it feels like 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: he doesn't want to be at home anymore, and I 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 3: feel like I deserve better when he's home, she's not 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: wanting to be intimate anymore, which is whatever? 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: And what does he say? How does he start that? 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: He kind of like when he comes home now she's 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: always hiding off in his office for hours. It's like 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: he makes a team, Like he's writing emails, but as 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: soon as I walk away, his messenger notification kind of 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: pings over and over and over, like there's a conversation 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: going on, and we're always like really open with each 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: other about like oh I'm talking to I'm Johnny Gonco. 38 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: Like they're so funny, and you know it's women's intuition. 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: You just kind of feel like he's he's messaging with someone, 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: like we know each other's friends, you know each other, 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: so for me, like we're really good friends with each other. 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: You know, like I care about him and so I 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: did comfort him about it. You know, I'm like you've 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: been gone more, you haven't really been wanting to touch me, 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 3: and you're hiding away in your office. He legit just 46 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: shrugged it off. He said, he has a new assistant 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: in his office and he's been showing her the ropes, 48 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: so that's kind of been taking a lot of time. 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: But I've seen I've seen her, and I'm really not 50 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: the jealous type, but she's legit his type, So so. 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: You think it might actually be the assistant that he's 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: talking to. 53 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 3: I do. It's like this horrible feeling in my stomach, 54 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: like I just I want to believe that you would 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: never shoot on me, because we're really not, like we've 56 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: talked about that in the past, like we love how 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: we wouldn't do it. I hope it's all in my head, 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: I really do. I just don't know. I don't know 59 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: how a worble feeling so here I am. 60 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 4: I just don't like how he handled you. Confronting him 61 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: about the time spent shrugging it off and not taking 62 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 4: the time to make you feel better is really unsettling. 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people do that. 64 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: You know, it sucks because I think they think about themselves, 65 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: like how I'm not whatever, and then the it's like, 66 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: but you're someone else is talking to you that you 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: care about, like it's about them at that moment, and 68 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: that's fine. Yeah, you know, like so anyway, yeah, that 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: sucks the way that was handled. All right, Well, you 70 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: told us what a grocery store he's a rewards card 71 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: member at. 72 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: So we'll do the usual. 73 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: We'll call and pretend to be from the grocery store 74 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: and say that every single month, we choose one rewards 75 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: card member at random who gets free flowers delivered from 76 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: our floral department, and we'll see if he sends those 77 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: to you or to somebody else. Okay, okay, all right, 78 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: well play a song, comeback. You're to catch theater next 79 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: in the middle of to catch a teater if you're 80 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: just joining us, Ashley is on the phone. She's been 81 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: with her boyfriend Ryan for four years and now she 82 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: thinks that he might be cheating. So in a second, 83 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: we're going to call him and pretend to be from 84 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: the grocery store that he's a rewards car remember at, 85 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: and say that he's this month's big winner of flowers 86 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 2: delivered to anybody that he wants from our floral department. 87 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: And we'll see if he believes that first of all, 88 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: and then if he sends those flowers to Ashley or 89 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: to somebody else. But before we do that, Ashley, why 90 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: don't you catch everybody up on your situation. 91 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 3: So we've been together four years. I used to travel 92 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 3: a bunch for work. He's the one that's traveling now. 93 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: In his time away just keeps increasing. And then when 94 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: he is home, he's been kind of avoiding me. He's been, 95 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 3: you know, working in his office and you know, big 96 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: red flag for me and not wanting to be in it, 97 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 3: which no one should ever feel. 98 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had that happen to me a lot. 99 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: It's humiliating and like it's you know, I'm talking to 100 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: him about it, like it's not like I'm like, hey, 101 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: did you take up the trash? Like I brought it 102 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: up to him like this was a really big deal. 103 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 3: I'm stelling like this and he said, nothing's going on. 104 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: But I still feel. 105 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: Like there is with his assistant too. Is who you 106 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: think it is? 107 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: Yes, total opposite looking of me, totally his previous type 108 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: before me. 109 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, were you ready for us to call him? 110 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: I guess Okay, here we go. 111 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, this is shorttle calling from I was looking 112 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: for our rewards card member named Ryan. 113 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's me Ryan. 114 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: Hi. 115 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: Please don't hang up. This is not a marketing phone call. 116 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm actually calling to say congratulations and thank you for 117 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: your business. Here this month's big winner. 118 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 3: Uh okay, where did I win? 119 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: Of the flowers? 120 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: The flowers every single month we who's one rewards card 121 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: member who gets free flowers delivered from our brand new 122 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: floral apartment to anybody that they want in the entire 123 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: United States. It's absolutely free. You've won thirty six long 124 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: stem red roses, a box of candy or chocolates, and 125 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: a card to be delivered to anybody that you want. 126 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: It's actually a three hundred and eighty two dollars value. 127 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: Thank you. 128 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, congratulations, thank you. 129 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 5: Okay, so you'll send flowers anywhere? 130 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:28,559 Speaker 1: Yes? 131 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 5: Okay, cool? 132 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: Great. 133 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: Let me let me just give it to tell you 134 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: how it works. Then I can take the information over 135 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: the phone. In a matter of minutes, I can call 136 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: you back if you don't know who you want to 137 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: send them to right now? 138 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, no, we can do it on the phone. Okay, 139 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 5: let's send these flowers to Dana. 140 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: Okay, and do you want to send a card along 141 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: with this? 142 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: Uh? 143 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, say something like I cannot wait to hold 144 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 5: you again and the thought of your arms gives me strikes. 145 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: Okay, got that, And now at this point, I would 146 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: like to tell you that my name is actually Jubil 147 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: and I'm calling from a radio show that's called The 148 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: Jubil Show, and your girlfriend Ashley is actually on the 149 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: phone listening. 150 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 5: No, yeah, hold on, yeah we. 151 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: Do, and that's what this is. 152 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: Oh my god, Hi, Hi, you said, actually there, yeah yep. 153 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am you know, like I asked 154 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: you this and you told me nothing was going on. 155 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: But I can't believe it. I mean, I I asked 156 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: you about this and you told me now and now 157 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: it's your assistant. Like I just knew it. I knew it, 158 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: and I asked you and you did behind it. Why 159 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: would you do this? But I can't believe it? Actually 160 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: and you did this. 161 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 5: Look, it's not it's not an easy thing to say. 162 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 5: It's not it's not something I'm happy about. It's look, Ashley, 163 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 5: I'm I'm sorry. 164 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: It's just you're not happy. You're so disrespectful, you're not 165 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: happy about Like what are you even talking about it 166 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: sounds like you you said you can't wait to be 167 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: in her arms again. It sounds like if you want 168 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: this to happen, Like what are you even thinking? 169 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 5: Look, it's just it's I don't I don't know. It's 170 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 5: it's it's an escape, it's a I mean, I mean, 171 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 5: you know, things haven't felt good with us for a 172 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 5: long time, and and you know, with with me traveling 173 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: more and and she has to travel with me a lot. 174 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 5: So like it's just we have things we connect on 175 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 5: the lifestyle, that travel, the work, the loneliness. It just 176 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: made sense and with us sort of feeling like there 177 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 5: was a distance outside of. 178 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: It, I just I'm sorry, Well, you should have broken 179 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: up with me, then you should have told me, and 180 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: you should have broken up with me. You've been together 181 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: long enough that you could have told me, and we 182 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: could have broken up, and then you can do whatever 183 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: you want love with her. I don't know, I don't know, 184 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: I don't know I want. 185 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 5: Us to be broken up. I just I I don't know. 186 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to figure things out. And it's something 187 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 5: I just kind of sell into and I should have How. 188 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: Long has this been going on? Like four or five months. Whoa, 189 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: I thought that this was legit only like two months, 190 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: And I asked you so long ago, like you're so 191 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: disrespectful to be doing that to me this long. And 192 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 3: I don't even know anything about her, you know what 193 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: I mean? Like you have been taking intimacy away from me, 194 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: which is so disrespectful to do to another human being. 195 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: But you're disrespecting my body too. Does she know that 196 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: you have a girlfriend for the song? 197 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 5: Yes, of course she does. It didn't start off this way. 198 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: I mean. 199 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 5: I told her about my life, she told me about 200 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 5: her life, her husband, all that, and then we just 201 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,119 Speaker 5: sort of fell into. 202 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: This her husband, her husband, Oh my gosh, what are 203 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: you doing? Her husband? She's married. You're in a relationship, 204 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: You're not like in some fantasy land. She's married. 205 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm sure her husband would like to know what 206 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: she's been doing on her business trips. 207 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, I just feel like I should retouch her 208 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: husband and let him know so that he's not being 209 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: disrespected as well as ash. 210 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 5: Come on, come on, you're already doing this on the radio. 211 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 5: You don't. 212 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: Look. I get. I get while you're married and I. 213 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 5: Care about you, But I but if you're going to 214 00:10:58,840 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: be vindictive about it. 215 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 3: You know. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I can't. 216 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 3: I I deserve better than this. I am a good 217 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: person and I have treated them so well for four years. 218 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: I've always been there for you, and I don't deserve 219 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: to be treated like this. I deserve to be loved 220 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: by a good partner and you should be humiliated by 221 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: what you've done. Okay, actually, okay, okay, okay, just. 222 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 5: Thank you for four years of treating me well and 223 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 5: one nightmare of a phone call that you're blasting to 224 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 5: the world. So get the better that you deserve. 225 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: And he hung up. Ashley, I'm really sorry, so sorry. 226 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 3: I am too. I mean, I was on our list 227 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: that would end up this way and it did. So 228 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: I just need to go for a walk and clear 229 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: my head right now. 230 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure you need to do whatever you got 231 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 4: to do, but just know this was a two for 232 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: you did your good deed, two for one for have. 233 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 3: The rest of the day. I'm gonna go on to 234 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: walk in google her husband now that I have her 235 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: Latin name, okay, so I can let him know. The 236 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: jubile shows to catch a cheater