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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody. I'm Jamel Hill and welcome to politics.

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Speaker 1: And I heard podcast and unbothered production time to get spolitical.

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Speaker 1: Seeing people crash out of the Cracker Barrel rebrand is

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Speaker 1: just another reminder that we're living in the stupidest timeline.

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Speaker 1: The last week, Cracker Barrell unveiled this new logo, which

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Speaker 1: was ridiculously basic and one that no one would have

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Speaker 1: ever guessed that would have led to this widespread conservative

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Speaker 1: outrage and the restaurant's value plummeting by about one hundred million. Now,

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Speaker 1: I had no idea Uncle Herschel had stands like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, regardless of whether you like or dislike the

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Speaker 1: new logo, the outrage over removing Uncle Herschel is a

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Speaker 1: case study of what happens when benign gestures get hijacked

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Speaker 1: from the most disingenuous, intellectually lazy people who often operate

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Speaker 1: from a space of bad faith. Exhibit a Congress van

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Speaker 1: Byron Donald's, who actually tweeted this. In college, I worked

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Speaker 1: at Cracker Barrel in Tallahassee. I even gave my life

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Speaker 1: to Christ in their parking lot. Their logo was iconic,

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Speaker 1: and their unique restaurants were a fixture of American culture.

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Speaker 1: No one asked for this woke rebread. It's time to

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Speaker 1: make Cracker Barrel great again, given out of the god

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Speaker 1: who is the head of this hash brown casserole Exhibit

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Speaker 1: B Donald Trump Junior who tweeted what the fuck is

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Speaker 1: wrong with Cracker Barrel Now? The right determined, with no evidence,

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Speaker 1: just their feelings that Cracker Barrel changing its logo is

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Speaker 1: part of some far left, woke takeover that is undermining

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Speaker 2: You've probably heard by now about Cracker Barrel changing their

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Speaker 2: logo from old American nostalgia to cold dead, lifeless and

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Speaker 2: modern in a comedic way. As one friend said to me,

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Speaker 2: they removed the cracker and the barrel. So what's left now?

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Speaker 2: And the answer is nothingness, the same nothingness that the

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Speaker 2: left wants you to stomach in every other facet of

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Speaker 3: Cracker Barrel has rebranded and I hate it. Thanks, I

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Speaker 3: hate it. Cracker Barrel rebranded from their classic, totally iconic

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Speaker 3: country store logo where you probably have countless memories with

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Speaker 3: your grandparents I know I certainly do, and got rid

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Speaker 3: of the cracker and the barrel. They erased the white

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Speaker 3: guy sitting outside of the Cracker Barrel store. White people

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Speaker 3: are about to riot. Is it too much to ask

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Speaker 3: to just go? Get a fat stack of diabetes get

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Speaker 3: served by a lady named Maud smoking two packs a

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Speaker 3: day extra syrup. Ladies and gentlemen, it's getting sticky because

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Speaker 3: the CEO of Cracker Barrel is as woke as they come.

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Speaker 3: She destroying a great American brand.

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Speaker 4: Look at who this is.

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Speaker 3: She's turned Cracker Barrel gay. The Cracker Barrel Alphabet Alliance

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Speaker 3: honoring supporting home office and field employees to bring the

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Speaker 3: whole their whole selves to work well, strengthening Cracker Barrel's

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Speaker 3: relationship with the alphabet community. What does this have to

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Speaker 3: do with biscuits?

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Speaker 1: Man? Those Epstein files must be jacked up, because the

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Speaker 1: way these conservatives are crashing out, you would have thought

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Speaker 1: Cracker Barrel replaced Uncle Herschel with a drag queen wearing

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Speaker 1: a datshiki while reading the sixteen nineteen project. Let's be real,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people taking aim at Cracker Barrel probably

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Speaker 1: haven't been inside one since the early two thousands.

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Speaker 5: A had a hash.

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Speaker 1: Brown casserole of Uncle Herschel's favorite breakfast sampler. A Grandpa's

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Speaker 1: country fried breakfast, a Mama's pancake breakfast. Ain't bought a

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Speaker 1: worthless nicknack from the country store, ain't sat in narry

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Speaker 1: a rock and chair. Damn Now I'm hungry because of

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Speaker 1: these Cracker Barrels stand have been supporting Cracker Barrel like

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Speaker 1: they claimed to, then Cracker Barrel seals wouldn't have been

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Speaker 1: cratering in recent years. The company didn't switch up because

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Speaker 1: things were going great. They switched up because things were

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Speaker 1: going in the opposite direction. Now Cracker Barrel is trying

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Speaker 1: to compete in a world of chicken and waffles and

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Speaker 1: bottomless mimosas, so you damn right. They also started serving

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Speaker 1: the Moses beer and wine. Cracker Barrel updated the look

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Speaker 1: restaurants so that shit wouldn't look like an unorganized ass

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Speaker 1: garage sale. Now I know I'm not the only one

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Speaker 1: who remembers those old wooden chairs at Cracker Barrel that

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Speaker 1: a significant portion of Cracker Barrel's customer base being born

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Speaker 1: you can expand your growth. And despite all the backlash

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Speaker 1: they're receiving now, Cracker Barrel CEO has sei they made

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Speaker 1: only reason Cracker Burew is being accused of changing up

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Speaker 1: the audacity to also list its employee resource groups, which.

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Speaker 5: To the right, is a form of dei.

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Speaker 1: Even though so many major corporations have these groups, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Cracker Barrel dared send the controversial message that everyone is

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Speaker 1: welcomed by having support groups for its employees. Their b

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Speaker 1: Bold Employee Resource Group is designed to quote, cultivate and

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Speaker 1: develop black leaders within the Cracker Barrel organization, utilizing allyship,

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Speaker 1: mentorship and education to create a path to continue excellence

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Speaker 5: And diverse community.

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Speaker 1: They also have groups for their Latino employees, the LGBTQ

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Speaker 5: A total of eight different groups.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a few under five to five and ride

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Speaker 5: They got a group for you at Cracker Barrel, so

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Speaker 1: Why, guys, I'm sure there's a resource group within Cracker

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Speaker 1: Barrel that you can join. Now, maybe the reason Cracker

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Speaker 1: Barrel has these groups is because Cracker Barrel had to

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Speaker 1: million dollar discrimination lawsuit in nineteen ninety four. We can't

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Speaker 1: get pancakes and eggs without the side of three fifths compromise.

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Speaker 1: Among the many ironies here is that the right is

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Speaker 1: always disparaging left for being sold Well, what's the word

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Speaker 1: they used to describe snowflakes? Meanwhile, they out here protests

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Speaker 1: and bud like nikes and the latest Superman. And now,

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Speaker 1: if you think the new Cracker Barrel logo is just lame,

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Speaker 1: definitely isn't eye catching, but woke that hash brown casserole

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Speaker 1: ain't hunting. I'm Jamel Hill and I approved this message.

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Speaker 1: My guest today is the mayor of the third largest

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Speaker 1: some unique challenges, which include how to keep the Cities

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Speaker 1: residents and undocumented migrants, a president who has repeatedly threatened

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Speaker 1: to unleash the National Guard on his city, and just

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Speaker 1: generally navigating some deeply unpopular decisions. Heavy is the head

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Speaker 1: that wears the mayor's hat, but my guest is determined

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Speaker 1: much better place than what he inherited. Coming up next

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Speaker 1: on Spolitics, the Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Jackson. Mayor Johnson,

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Speaker 1: I just want to thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: me on this episode of Spolitics. I am going to

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Speaker 1: begin the podcast by asking you a question I ask

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Speaker 1: every guest that appears on his Politics, and that is

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Speaker 1: name an athlete or a moment that made you love sports.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, Well that's tough in Chicago to name just

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Speaker 4: one moment or one athlete. You know, I will say, though,

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Speaker 4: there is the iconic moment, of course, when you know,

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Speaker 4: Cleveland Cavaliers, the Bulls finally getting over the hump and

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Speaker 4: getting into the second round in the playoffs. So that's

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Speaker 4: just an iconic moment in Chicago sports history.

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Speaker 6: And from that moment on, of course.

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Speaker 4: The Bulls went on a reign that really I think

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Speaker 4: has been unmatched. But I think the one athlete that

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Speaker 4: really drew my love and attention to sports. I'm a

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Speaker 4: Swan Dunstan really helped me just develop my love and

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Speaker 1: I'm always curious how mayors in the or politicians period,

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Speaker 1: And you may sounds like you grew up a Cubs fan, right,

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Speaker 1: And so with that being the case, once you get

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Speaker 5: Is that hard to do?

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Speaker 1: And it to some degree maybe abandoned some of your

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Speaker 4: No, no, it's not hard to do. I'm a Cubs

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Speaker 6: First mayor as a legitimate bottom Cubs fan.

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Speaker 4: Now, look, I love baseball, of course, I want to

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Speaker 4: You know, growing up watching the Cubs WGN, I mean

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Speaker 4: here's what Chicago appreciates about that. In Chicago, you are

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Speaker 4: Luke arm three administrations that go. That mayor was a

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Speaker 1: Well, while we're on the topic of Chicago sports, obviously

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Speaker 1: a very big topic around there is what's going to

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Speaker 1: to stay to stay in Chicago, are they going to

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Speaker 1: talked about how you want the Bears to stay in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: This is something you've been talking about with with state

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Speaker 1: officials Gudnan and Prisker. How are you feeling about out

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Speaker 1: the situation now, Because, at least based off what I

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Speaker 5: So where do things stand?

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Speaker 4: Well, the Bears belong in Chicago, right There's not a

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Speaker 6: And then here's the real kicker here. Not only would

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it is. You know.

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Speaker 1: The thing about these new arenas is that they want

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Speaker 4: And look, I'm a traditionalist just like you, you know,

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Speaker 4: health crisis, a police officer is not on the scene,

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Speaker 4: it's an actual behavioral mental healthcare professional. And where those

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Speaker 4: services have been deployed, not one incident has led to

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Speaker 4: an arrest, and so expanding mental and behavior healthcare services

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Speaker 4: have also led to the decline of violence. And then

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Speaker 4: finally creating affordable communities right home ownership or just having

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Speaker 4: stable housing is yet another factor that leads to community stability.

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Speaker 4: Right now, there's been infrastructure that has been unaddressed for

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Speaker 4: a very long time in our city, particularly around affordable homes,

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Speaker 4: and we are now on pace to build conservatively ten

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Speaker 4: thousand more affordable units by the end of my first term.

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Speaker 4: So it's policing and youth employment, it's policing and mental

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Speaker 4: and behavior health care services, it's policing and building affordable housing.

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Speaker 4: And so as we work to build the safest, most

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Speaker 4: affordable big city in America, we're putting forth investments that

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Speaker 4: are working to address these these issues that have been

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Speaker 4: ignored for decades. So thirty two percent decrease rather thirty

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Speaker 4: two percent decrease and homicides, thirty eight percent reduction in

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Speaker 4: shootings and shooting victims, robberies are down. In violence as

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Speaker 4: a whole is down because we're actually showing up with

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Speaker 4: critical investments and people are becoming far more appreciative of

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Speaker 4: those investments. And a year ago I did say, look,

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Speaker 4: we have to get under five hundred, made that pronouncement

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Speaker 4: a year ago, and now we're, you know, seven months

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Speaker 4: into this year, and we're seeing the returns of those

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Speaker 4: investments in a positive way. A lot of work to

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Speaker 4: do still, but we are certainly heading in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: You ran on a progressive, a very progressive platform. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you've seen in New York that you have a

464
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Speaker 1: Zohanman mom Donnie, who's also running on a very you know,

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Speaker 1: progressive platform. But as you know, it comes with a

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Speaker 1: lot of black backlash because you know, typically a lot

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Speaker 1: of times voters when we put more police on the

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Speaker 1: street where you know, they want to hear more of

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Speaker 1: a law and order message. And I know recently, you know,

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Speaker 1: when the snap curfew came up that you have been

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Speaker 1: an opponent of that. Now, the snap curfew would allow

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Speaker 1: the police in Chicago to basically.

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Speaker 5: Call a curfew whenever they wanted to.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a general city curfew for teenagers, but

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Speaker 1: this would give them more authority, more power, you know,

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Speaker 1: to do that. So, when you're running a progressive platform,

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Speaker 1: how do you sell these ideas that are very non

478
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Speaker 1: traditional to voters whose comfort has only been in how

479
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Speaker 1: one way of one way of doing things? Like how

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Speaker 1: do you in a city that has had crime issues,

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Speaker 1: Like how are you selling to people and especially crime

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Speaker 1: issues from teenagers? And you decide that you're not on

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Speaker 1: board with this and you're going to veto the snap curfew, Like,

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Speaker 1: how do you sell that to your constituents?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Look, there's there's a lot of concern that you know,

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Speaker 4: people have about you know, community safety as a whole.

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Speaker 6: And I get it.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I've said from the very beginning, we

489
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Speaker 4: have to do the things at work. And to your point,

490
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Speaker 4: there has been just this reliance upon one way of

491
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Speaker 4: doing things. And even though it has not panned out

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Speaker 4: for us or you certainly have not seen the reaping,

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Speaker 4: if you will, of those type of approaches that folks

494
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: tend to get stuck in that and unfortunately, Jamai as

495
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Speaker 4: you know that not just Chicago, but the country has

496
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Speaker 4: this addiction on jails and incarceration. If it were just

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Speaker 4: simply more police officers, then we would not be having

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Speaker 4: this conversation about violence. You know, the City of Chicago

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Speaker 4: spends more per capital on policing than anywhere else in

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Speaker 4: the country, and that has not you know, benefited you know,

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Speaker 4: our city, And it doesn't mean that they don't play

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Speaker 4: a role, but it's not the only thing that we,

503
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Speaker 4: you know, should should invest it. In fact, you know, unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: we invest more in policing, in jails and incarceration than

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Speaker 4: we are in economic development and education.

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Speaker 6: And that's something that you know, I'm here to transform.

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Speaker 4: And part of the way, one of the ways in

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Speaker 4: which we shift, we shift people's paradigm around this is

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Speaker 4: that making sure that the community understands the what and

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Speaker 4: the why. That is the responsibility that I have as

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Speaker 4: mayor of the City of Chicago. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: that I've always done that. Well, you know, when you

513
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Speaker 4: are motivated to do things a certain way, some instances

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Speaker 4: we just kind of plow through it. And we don't

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Speaker 4: take our time to educate people. And so what I've

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Speaker 4: done is I've set up a series of community meetings

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Speaker 4: all over the city of Chicago where we are having

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Speaker 4: these conversations. And trust me, you know, people push back,

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Speaker 4: you know, on on my approach. Preventing these gatherings from

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Speaker 4: happening is my top priority. Look, I was a former

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Speaker 4: public school teacher here in Chicago. I taught middle school

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Speaker 4: and actually taught at westing House where Mark acguire, one

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Speaker 4: of the persons we sent up to your city to

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Speaker 4: get you all some champions.

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Speaker 6: We appreciate that You're very welcome.

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Speaker 4: You know, Mark and Zeke are are two amazing Chicago

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Speaker 4: ones that really and bibe what I call the soul

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Speaker 4: of Chicago and the strength of our city.

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Speaker 1: But having taught to be clear, Mayor, we stole Zeke.

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Speaker 5: He's no longer yours like he's ours.

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Speaker 4: Well, so I have something planned for that. By the way,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to have to talk to you offline about that,

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Speaker 4: because we want to make sure that he gets his

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Speaker 4: true honor in the greatest city in the world, the

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Speaker 4: city of Chicago. And I'm just going to go on

536
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Speaker 4: record breaking news right here on your podcast. The City

537
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Speaker 4: of Chicago has to do a much better job at

538
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Speaker 4: honoring those individuals that were born and bred and raised here,

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Speaker 4: and Zeke is one that we have to start with.

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Speaker 4: And I'm having some conversations around the country because Isaiah Thomas,

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Speaker 4: of course, is also a proud Westsider. His family members

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Speaker 4: lived just you know, a few blocks away from me.

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Speaker 4: So with that being said, you know, the responsibility that

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Speaker 4: I have to ensure that the residents of the city

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Speaker 4: of Chicago know the what and the why and the

546
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Speaker 4: case that we're making to transform this city. Though it

547
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: has been difficult for some to digest, but now we're

548
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Speaker 4: clearly seeing the evidence of the type of investments that

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Speaker 4: I'm putting forward.

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Speaker 6: And here's the other thing too. You know, there is

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Speaker 6: a real dark past in.

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Speaker 4: Chicago around how police and the community, particularly the black

553
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Speaker 4: and brown communities have not enjoyed that relationship. There's been,

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Speaker 4: you know, real significant breakdown and trust. There was, you know,

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Speaker 4: a long history of police brutality in this city, where

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Speaker 4: right now, as Mayor of Chicago, I'm paying restitution for

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Speaker 4: individual who were tortured in some cases when I was

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Speaker 4: barely an elementary school and so I didn't believe that

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Speaker 4: it was healthy for the direction of our city to

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Speaker 4: give that type of unfettered authority to one entity without

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Speaker 4: a check or balance. That has not bothd well for

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Speaker 4: residents in the city of Chicago, and it was my

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Speaker 4: responsibility and duty to make sure that we are moving

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Speaker 4: in the direction of real constitutional policing. As our police

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Speaker 4: superintendent is working hard to restore trust amongst black and

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Speaker 4: brown communities, that it would have been irresponsible to move

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Speaker 4: on a policy that I believe would have set us back.

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Speaker 4: And so again top priority of mine is to make

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Speaker 4: sure that all of our communities are safe and protecting

570
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Speaker 4: our young people, even from themselves at times, is something

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Speaker 4: that I go over with my team over and over

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Speaker 4: again because someone who was raising the family, someone who

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Speaker 4: was taught in our public schools, I know what it

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Speaker 4: really takes to help not only support a young person,

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Speaker 4: but for them to be able to see their purpose

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Speaker 4: and over policing and certainly leaning towards unconstitutional policing. That's

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Speaker 4: that's a dark pass that we have turned the page on,

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Speaker 4: and now as we move forward to build a safe

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Speaker 4: and affordable big city. It was imperative that I protected

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Speaker 4: our city from a policy that I believe that would

581
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Speaker 4: have been detrimental to our young people, but really to

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Speaker 4: the relationship that we're ultimately trying to build and restore

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Speaker 4: amongst police and the community at large.

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Speaker 1: You said, you feel like you can at least get

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Speaker 1: resonance and constituents to be open minded if you give

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Speaker 1: them the what and the why. And you another challenge

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Speaker 1: that you have faced during your time is the fact

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Speaker 1: that estimated, I think fifty thousand migrants have come to

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Speaker 1: Chicago since twenty twenty two, many of which were bused

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Speaker 1: from Texas. My Governor, Greg Abbott, you.

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Speaker 5: Can help me understand this. How is that even legal?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Look, look, I taught social studies as a proud

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Speaker 4: social studies and history teacher. You know, I've seen a

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Speaker 4: lot of things in my life, but I certainly have

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Speaker 4: studied and taught a lot of different eras of our

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Speaker 4: nation's history. This had to be one of the most

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Speaker 4: iniquitous acts that I've ever seen in modern history where

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Speaker 4: the governor of Texas literally used human beings as a

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Speaker 4: political attack against major cities, in particular New York and

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Speaker 4: Chicago and Denver. And I questioned, you know, just the

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Speaker 4: the the moral compass, you know, of a of a

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Speaker 4: of a of a leader that refused to coordinate and

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Speaker 4: cooperate with the entire nation to deal with what clearly

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Speaker 4: was a crisis at the border. No one disagreed that

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Speaker 4: are immigration system is broken. And one of the reasons

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Speaker 4: why we've had, you know, the type of chaos within

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Speaker 4: our country, if you will, is because we just have

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Speaker 4: not had comprehensive immigration reform. In fact, I believe the

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Speaker 4: last time immigration reform policy passed the Bears were the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl champions. I believe it was nineteen eighty six,

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Speaker 4: the last time we actually had done something about responding

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Speaker 4: to the need to create a structure that allowed for

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Speaker 4: a pathway for people to find refuge and eventually find

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Speaker 4: their home in our country. And so when I took office,

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Speaker 4: I mean literally thousands of uses were coming up from

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Speaker 4: the state of Texas and there was no answer from

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Speaker 4: the federal government because they had abdicated their duties. And

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Speaker 4: you know, at times it felt like it was unbearable.

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Speaker 4: They were literally human beings sleeping on lawers and police districts,

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Speaker 4: and you know, we did not have the support from

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Speaker 4: the federal government that Ukrainians experienced you know, Jamail. Many

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Speaker 4: people don't know this, but there were thirty thousand Ukrainians

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Speaker 4: that were that found refuge in the city of Chicago,

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Speaker 4: and no one.

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Speaker 6: Said a word.

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Speaker 4: No one said a word, and there were federal dollars

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Speaker 4: attached to those families. I believe that was the right

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Speaker 4: thing to do. That did not happen with individuals coming

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Speaker 4: from Central and South America. And so what we did

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Speaker 4: do was we had to stand up shelters all over

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Speaker 4: the city. And it did create a lot of tension

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Speaker 4: and caused a great deal of consternation. But it's something

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Speaker 4: that in retrospect I realized even more so in the

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Speaker 4: day it was the right thing to do. Now as

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Speaker 4: much division as it was meant to cause, you know,

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Speaker 4: we took something that was meant to destroy and disrupt

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Speaker 4: our city, and we ultimately created a one system initiative

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Speaker 4: for homelessness across the board, where we have increased our

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Speaker 4: shelter beds by one and twenty six percent, and for

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Speaker 4: the first time over a decade, when families call, regardless

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Speaker 4: of your status, whether you are a born Chicago wind

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Speaker 4: or you have found refuge here, that there's not one

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Speaker 4: single family on the waiting list. In fact, we put

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Speaker 4: forth another forty million dollars just last week to repair

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Speaker 4: many of our shelters that have gone without air conditioning,

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Speaker 4: where you know, individuals had to stand up eating because

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Speaker 4: there were no dining spaces, right, So we made some

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Speaker 4: real critical investments there. But it's something that has shaped

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Speaker 4: my leadership. It's something that you know, I believe will

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Speaker 4: be an ongoing challenge as we see global population shift

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Speaker 4: that's happening through climate change and other political elements that

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Speaker 4: have created instability across this globe, and as a nation,

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Speaker 4: we have to have a comprehensive immigration policy that addresses

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Speaker 4: what ultimately is going to be an ongoing dynamic that

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Speaker 4: will will impact all of us.

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Speaker 1: But how do you how do you message that to

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Speaker 1: your constituents because I know you know you mentioned you

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Speaker 1: have community meetings all the time, and even beyond just

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Speaker 1: a formal meeting, you in.

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Speaker 5: The Chicago streets all the time.

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Speaker 1: So I know that the number one thing that you

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Speaker 1: heard was especially from black residents, was let me get

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Speaker 1: this straight. You got money for that, but you don't

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Speaker 1: have money for us. As we try to figure out

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Speaker 1: ways to better strengthen and build our communities. So how

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Speaker 1: can you message against that when these are people who

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Speaker 1: feel like they have earned the right to have a

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Speaker 1: government that's more supportive of them.

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Speaker 6: No, absolutely, Look, trust me, my number has not changed,

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Speaker 6: by the way, Jamail.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm getting phone calls from everybody as

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Speaker 4: well as they mamas you know, around this issue. You know,

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Speaker 4: and I do I get it. You know, I've been

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Speaker 4: a teacher in this city. I've served as an organizer,

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Speaker 4: as an organizer in this city when administrations shut down

676
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Speaker 4: the schools and in our communities. It's one of the

677
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Speaker 4: things that further, you know, emboldened me to to have,

678
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Speaker 4: you know, this response of actually running for office shut

679
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Speaker 4: down public housing. So I'm fully aware of how black

680
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Speaker 4: folks have been shut out the process. One of the

681
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Speaker 4: ways in which we've had to message this. And this

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Speaker 4: has been a challenge, right because look, you know, the

683
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Speaker 4: mass media only wanted to share one story of my administration.

684
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Speaker 4: They didn't talk about the one point twenty five billion

685
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Speaker 4: dollar bond investment for housing and economic development to repopulate

686
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Speaker 4: the West and South side of Chicago, which was the

687
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Speaker 4: largest investment for economic development in housing in the history

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Speaker 4: of Chicago. You know, They didn't talk about the fact

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Speaker 4: that we have tip districts, you know, or tax increment finance,

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Speaker 4: where there are these districts where taxing bodies their dollars

691
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Speaker 4: are held for development, and those dollars have historically been

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Speaker 4: used to develop downtown, but not our neighborhoods, where I

693
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Speaker 4: released these surpluses back into the taxing bodies for our

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Speaker 4: schools or parks, our libraries, you know, the largest tiff

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Speaker 4: surplus if you will, to go back into these to

696
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Speaker 4: the communities that have been starved out. You know, they

697
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Speaker 4: didn't want to talk about the fact that we abolished

698
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Speaker 4: the sub minimum wage where tip workers overwhelming brown and black.

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Speaker 4: You know, women make up these positions where now they

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Speaker 4: will get raises that will be aligned with the minimum

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Speaker 4: wage for every single worker. Where we had paid time

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Speaker 4: off where workers get ten days off now with sick

703
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Speaker 4: and leave. You know, these were some of the investments

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Speaker 4: that we were doing even in the midst of that crisis.

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Speaker 4: And then finally we actually put money towards a working

706
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Speaker 4: group for reparations a half a million dollars. And that

707
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Speaker 4: working group has now been formalized and we've already put

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Speaker 4: money towards organizations for wealth building for black families in particular,

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Speaker 4: especially one program that I'm really excited about. It's called

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Speaker 4: the Missing Middle, where where we are building owner occupied

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Speaker 4: housing where individuals can only own their home, but they're

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Speaker 4: building units where they can rent there the other units

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Speaker 4: so that we can build generational wealth. So in other words,

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Speaker 4: the message is we can respond and deal with, you

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Speaker 4: know the need for undocumented families and immigrant families to

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Speaker 4: be protected while also calling for reparations. The challenge, of course,

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Speaker 4: that we've had is that there's only one story that

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Speaker 4: that dominated you know, the first six months of not

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Speaker 4: longer of my administration. And so that's why these community meetings,

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Speaker 4: this conversation is is so helpful. I think the last

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Speaker 4: thing that I'll say is this. You know this, this

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Speaker 4: this country has has been plagued for a very long time.

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Speaker 4: You know President Biden, former President you know Biden said

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Speaker 4: this at the one of the last commencement speeches that

725
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Speaker 4: he gave me, is that how university, and he said,

726
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 4: the greatest threat to our democracy is white supremacy. So

727
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Speaker 4: that's the greatest threat. And so now you have you know,

728
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Speaker 4: Governor of Texas and other individuals that are working to

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Speaker 4: use immigration as a way to split our community and

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Speaker 4: so families who are indigenous to this particular region. As

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Speaker 4: a black man who is a descendant of slaves who

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Speaker 4: found our way up through the Second Migration, as you know,

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Speaker 4: whether it's Chicago or Detroit, that somehow you want me

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Speaker 4: to be upset with other melanated individuals who are seeking

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Speaker 4: refuge in a country that quite frankly has gotten away with.

736
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Speaker 4: Whether it's kidnapping brown people in this season or lynching

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Speaker 4: black people, these are the stories, quite frankly, that we

738
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Speaker 4: have to share so that we know what our collective

739
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Speaker 4: struggle is. So this movement that has elected me to

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Speaker 4: this office, black, brown, white, Asian, young old, this intergenerational

741
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Speaker 4: movement that elected a working class middle child of ten

742
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Speaker 4: to the fifth floor without any political ties to the

743
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Speaker 4: machine to lead in this moment, I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: allow the threat of our democracy, which quite frankly is

745
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Speaker 4: white supremacy, to further divide our communities. Now, look, it's

746
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 4: going to be hard work. I recognize that, and I'm

747
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Speaker 4: up for it. I believe we can fight for comprehensive

748
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Speaker 4: immigration reform. We can keep our community safe, build more

749
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Speaker 4: affordable homes and make the case for reparations. That's something

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Speaker 4: that we have not done in a real dynamic or

751
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Speaker 4: bold way in this moment. But I'm up for it

752
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Speaker 4: because I believe it's Chicago's position to be the most

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Speaker 4: forthright and innovative political leadership.

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Speaker 6: Much like the way doctor King described it when he

755
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Speaker 6: came to.

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Speaker 4: Chicago, that if you can figure it out in Chicago,

757
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Speaker 4: you can do it anywhere in the world. And that's

758
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Speaker 4: what my approach has been, to figure it out in

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Speaker 4: Chicago so that we could be a model for the

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Speaker 4: rest of the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And as I've said on social media and then

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Speaker 1: certainly in conversations I've had about this, is they're not

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Speaker 1: mutually exclusive. The help and assistance given to undocumented people

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Speaker 1: who basically just want to contribute to America as best

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Speaker 1: they can, it has nothing to do with why we

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Speaker 1: have or haven't gotten any reparations. Like those are two

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Speaker 1: separate things. The all of the migrants and undoc committed

768
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Speaker 1: people could disappear tomorrow and we would still be fighting

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Speaker 1: for reparations. So it's not because they're getting money. We're

770
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Speaker 1: not getting reparations. No, it's because white supremacy has decided

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Speaker 1: that's something that we're not old.

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Speaker 5: And so that's a different.

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Speaker 1: But understandable conversation why people want to kind of relate

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Speaker 1: the to to make it seem like this other group

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Speaker 1: of people. And that's you know, that's the way politics,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately work right now in America. If you can prove

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00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: another group of people got something that you didn't get,

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Speaker 1: or prove that like even with you using just your emotion.

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Speaker 5: Is that.

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Speaker 1: You're better than another group of people. It is was

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Speaker 1: driving the political climate in this country and why it

782
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Speaker 1: feels so unhealthy and why I feel so so toxic.

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Speaker 1: So I have to say, given what's at stake for

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Speaker 1: you as somebody who is a politician and has to

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Speaker 1: get elected and approval, and these times, that's a boat

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Speaker 1: stand to have because I know, I know it's politically costly.

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Speaker 5: That's that's why I said that.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's not even it's cost a lot of

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Speaker 1: people their jobs when they take that position of like,

790
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Speaker 1: I'd rather stand on something right than stand on what

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Speaker 1: might benefit me politically. So it says something that despite

792
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Speaker 1: the blowback you knew you were going to get that

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Speaker 1: you were still intentional about wanting to make sure that

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Speaker 1: Chicago was held up as a model even as it

795
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Speaker 1: drew the ire of the president.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, I'm just wondering to think about that. Right.

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Speaker 4: The welcoming city a position that I take in this

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Speaker 4: city has been brought to us by the first black

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Speaker 4: mayor in the history of Chicago, Mayor HERA. Washington. It

800
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Speaker 4: was Mayor Hearra of Washington that took the advice from

801
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Speaker 4: his corporate council, James Montgomery, who was the first black

802
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Speaker 4: corporate council, who also provided legal representation for the Black

803
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Speaker 4: Panther Party where they knew forty years ago to give

804
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 4: police seeing powers to a local jurisdiction to be able

805
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 4: to enact federal mandates, that that's not going to bode well. Right.

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Speaker 4: In fact, it was during the eighties in which the

807
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Speaker 4: States Attorney and many district commanders were all in cahoots

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Speaker 4: ultimately to to torture black men into false confessions. And

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Speaker 4: so I stand on the shoulders quite frankly of those

810
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Speaker 4: who came before me. And you know, one of the

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Speaker 4: things that I did have to do was to educate,

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Speaker 4: you know, people that a welcome in City ordinance just

813
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Speaker 4: simply means that our local law enforcement will not dub

814
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Speaker 4: as federal agents that in order to maintain community trusts,

815
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Speaker 4: it was critical that you know that the undocumented community

816
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 4: felt safe calling for supportive if there was violence that

817
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Speaker 4: was you know, surrounding them in any way. And then

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Speaker 4: the last thing is, you know, some people believe that

819
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Speaker 4: the City of Chicago gained dollars directly to migrants. That

820
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Speaker 4: just wasn't the case. In fact, for many of the

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Speaker 4: shelters and the workers and the programs that were made

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Speaker 4: available for migrants, these were black organizations and were doing

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Speaker 4: the work. It wasn't like we were just simply writing

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Speaker 4: checks to migrants as they came and were dropped off.

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Speaker 4: You know, we were literally paying black leaders and organizations

826
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Speaker 4: to provide that support. And as a result, you know that,

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Speaker 4: you know, we have seen you know, a greater coalesce

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Speaker 4: if you will, around how we build more affordable homes,

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Speaker 4: how we have a shelter system that keeps the dignity

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Speaker 4: of people who are unhoused. So, you know, I would

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Speaker 4: be remiss if I did not acknowledge Harold Washington, Mayor

832
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Speaker 4: Herald Washington and corporate Council James Montgomery, who knew something

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Speaker 4: interesting enough the Director of Immigration, Director Lawyer, back in

834
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Speaker 4: the eighties put an operation together that was called Operation

835
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Speaker 4: Taxi Cab where he set up agents at the airport.

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Speaker 6: To round up taxi drivers who.

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Speaker 4: At the time were overwhelmingly immigrants and had these big raids,

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Speaker 4: if you will, and turned out he ended up arresting

839
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Speaker 4: many individuals who were documented. Sounds familiar, right, And so

840
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 4: we stand on the shoulders of those who came before

841
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 4: us as a model of how do we stand up

842
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 4: to authoritarianism? How do we stand up to tyranny? When

843
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 4: the President of the United States of America puts so

844
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Speaker 4: much money into Ice, where the only other forces that

845
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 4: have more resources than Ice is the United States government's

846
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 4: army and China's army, that's a problem. That's a threat

847
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 4: to our democracy. And that's why it's important that the

848
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 4: City of Chicago stood up in that moment, because the

849
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 4: forces that are ultimately working to divide us are also

850
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 4: committed to an authoritarian rule that ultimately provides I believe,

851
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Speaker 4: a real detriment to our humanity.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I used to believe.

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Speaker 1: Their budget is now one hundred and seventy billion, which

854
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: is larger than the US Marines. Okay, there's a lot

855
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Speaker 1: more I want to ask you. I know I only

856
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Speaker 1: have a very short period of time. I have a

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Speaker 1: sports question that's going to get you in a lot

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Speaker 1: of trouble.

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Speaker 5: I cannot wait to ask you this.

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Speaker 1: But first, Mayor Johnson, we're going to take a quick

861
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Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back with more from you.

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Speaker 1: Before we went to break, Mayor, you were talking, you know,

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Speaker 1: just about like sort of your the authoritarianism that is

864
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Speaker 1: obviously run rampant in this country.

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Speaker 5: You've been very vocal about it.

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Speaker 1: You have, you know, got into I guess a bit

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Speaker 1: of a public back and forth to some degree with

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Speaker 1: the President of the United States. For you leading one

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Speaker 1: of the what Chicago's the third largest city in the country.

870
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Speaker 1: I think that's leading a city like Chicago, and to

871
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Speaker 1: have a president that seems to be working against.

872
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Speaker 5: You, how do you manage that?

873
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, these circumstances are difficult.

874
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Speaker 4: You know, I'll be the first to admit, and you

875
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Speaker 4: know we're living to a large extent in unprecedented times.

876
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Speaker 4: But the way, you know, I believe that, you know,

877
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Speaker 4: I have to do, well, what I have to do

878
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 4: as the city of Chicago is really to stand up

879
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 4: and fight for working people. You know, look, the city

880
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: of Chicago and our economy really drives the economy of

881
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 4: the state of Illinois in the region. And the state

882
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 4: of Illinois is a donor state. We actually give more

883
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 4: to the federal government than what we receive in return.

884
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: And I believe the best way to stand up to

885
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 4: authoritarianism and tyranny is to punch back. And I mentioned

886
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 4: that come from a large family, and you know, my

887
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 4: older brother would always say to us, if you are

888
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: in a fight and you are ducky, you're probably losing

889
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 4: that fight.

890
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 6: At some point, you have to swing back.

891
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: And so that's why, you know, we've taken it to

892
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 4: the courts, right with affirmative litigation. The Trump administration sued

893
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 4: my city and you know, we prevailed in that lawsuit

894
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 4: or a district court said that as sanctuary and welcoming cities,

895
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 4: that the federal government does not have the authority to

896
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Speaker 4: dictate you know, local awordinances. That was a victory for us.

897
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 4: We're also seeing people take it to the streets, right.

898
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 4: I come out of the organizing you know apparatus, and

899
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 4: you have people who are organizing all over the city

900
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: of Chicago round a host of things, whether it's knowing

901
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 4: the rights of undocumented individuals or pushing back against this

902
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 4: administration's animates towards diversity, equity, and inclusion, and then we're

903
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 4: passing law right, So it's it's what happened in the

904
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 4: civil rights era, and clearly there's an attempt to roll

905
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 4: everything back that we gained seventy years ago. And I'll

906
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 4: take it one step further. You know, the Republican Party

907
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 4: has made it very clear that they have not accepted

908
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 4: the results of the Civil War and they have desperately

909
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 4: longed for a rematch. And it's going to be paramount

910
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 4: to this moment that, as incorrigible as it, it feels

911
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 4: right now that we have to show resistance and again,

912
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 4: whether it's in the courts, whether it's in the streets,

913
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 4: whether it's policy, that that's the way we punch back,

914
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: and we have to do it collectively.

915
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 6: I'm seeing people rise up all over the country.

916
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: You know, we honored you know, the late great John

917
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 4: Lewis the day of action around good trouble, and.

918
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 6: People's voices are coming alive again.

919
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 4: And that's so critical in this moment because the threats

920
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 4: are absolutely real and as the city of Chicago goes.

921
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 4: I believe we are the heartbeat and the soul of America.

922
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 4: You know, this is the place that said, you know,

923
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: keep hope alive, Reverend Jesse Jackson, the city that said

924
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 4: yes we can. It's a city where electricity came to life.

925
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 4: You know, black Haitian immigrant and a Potawatamy woman fell

926
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: in love and set up a trade post at the

927
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Speaker 4: bank of the river. Because they believe that one day

928
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 4: the city of Chicago would be the global capital of

929
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 4: the world. I live and rest in that type of history,

930
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Speaker 4: and so that's what motivates me. The work of our

931
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: ancestors that fought back and one and we are always

932
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Speaker 4: having We're always better off having the tenacity if you

933
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: were the temerity to actually fight back. And that's what

934
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Speaker 4: we're doing in this moment. You know, we didn't ask

935
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Speaker 4: for the fight. You know, we didn't necessarily like sign

936
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Speaker 4: up for the fight. But since we're in it, you know,

937
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 4: you best believe that the City of Chicago's going to

938
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Speaker 4: do what we always do, and that's a show for

939
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 4: working people.

940
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Speaker 1: How much does it surprise you or maybe even trouble

941
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: you that even with all the chaos that's happening at

942
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: the federal level right now. The Democratic Party's approval rating

943
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: is actually lower than the presidents is right now, and

944
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: it's lower than the Republican Party even though they also

945
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: have sort of a unfavorable rating.

946
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Speaker 5: The Democrats do not.

947
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: Control, you know, they don't control the citate of the House,

948
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: they don't control the presidency, they don't have any of those.

949
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: But yet in the minds of so many people, the

950
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: Democratic brand as a party has become toxic.

951
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 5: What do you make of that?

952
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 4: Well, I believe part of it is is that, you know,

953
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 4: there has been, you know, a customary form of political

954
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 4: engagement that just has not it doesn't speak to the moment, right.

955
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 4: It's not that we're wrong on the issues, like let

956
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 4: me just make that very clear. As I'm building more

957
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 4: affordable homes, investing in mental and behavior health, you know, care,

958
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 4: driving violence down in the city of Chicago, these are

959
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 4: the things that people expect out of its leadership. There

960
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 4: also has to be a concerted effort to engage voters

961
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 4: and hear the frustrations and experiences that people are having

962
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 4: and then being that much more committed to not just

963
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 4: addressing those issues in isolation, but doing it collectively. I

964
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 4: believe that the residents of this country are longing for

965
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 4: someone who would actually stand up, even in the midst

966
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 4: of difficult moments, and speak the truth, speak it from

967
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 4: power to power, and then be willing to do that

968
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 4: which is necessary to see to it that we actually

969
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 4: execute the values that we subscribe to. And I'll give

970
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 4: one good example. It's and I know this is you know,

971
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 4: another political hot but initie that you know, people expect

972
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 4: us to just power around. You know, what's happening in

973
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 4: Gaza is unconscionable. It should not have taken this long

974
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 4: for you know, organizations to call out what's happening. Our

975
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 4: core has has has stood the test of having moral

976
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 4: clarity domestically and abroad, and you know, as the party

977
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 4: took too long, quite frankly, to call out, you know,

978
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 4: the egregious response by the Israeli government. And you can

979
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 4: condemn the attack and condemn terrorism and also call for peace,

980
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 4: just like we can call for immigration reform and reparations.

981
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 4: I believe that voters in this moment, they want it all,

982
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 4: and there's nothing wrong with wanting more. In this moment,

983
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about the families that you know, I come

984
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 4: in contact with every single day who I have longed

985
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 4: for investments in their communities. Just on Sunday, we had

986
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 4: a celebration where I made a vow and a commitment

987
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 4: to provide vacant lots over to community based organizations to

988
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 4: build affordable homes. And now we have almost seventy five

989
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 4: families within less than two years that are now homeowners,

990
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 4: and we're working to release another one and twenty five

991
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 4: lots for that. That's the type of work that people

992
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 4: want to see. And to the point that you made earlier,

993
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 4: you know, people wanted me to show how we can

994
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 4: respond to the migrant crisis while also making those critical investments.

995
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 4: We have receipts to prove that, and I believe that

996
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 4: the people of this country are well position for the

997
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 4: type of organizing that brings all of our communities together.

998
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 4: As much as there's been this attempt for a zero sum,

999
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 4: I know deeped out inside as an organizer, as the

1000
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 4: leader of one of the largest economies in the world,

1001
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 4: that people want us to come together. They want us

1002
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 4: to unite around a common interest and a common goal,

1003
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 4: which is to ensure that working people have a pathway

1004
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 4: to the middle class. And then the last thing that

1005
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 4: I'll say on this is we have given millionaires and

1006
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 4: especially billionaires the ultra rich, way too much latitude in

1007
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 4: our in our government, way too much. And we just

1008
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 4: saw the President of the United States of America literally

1009
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 4: cut food and medicine from people, and we see the

1010
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 4: largest shift of wealth that is ultimately concentrated in the

1011
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 4: hands of the few. It was Justice Brandeis that said,

1012
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,959
Speaker 4: you know, it's one hundred years ago that you either

1013
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 4: can have a democracy or you can have wealth that

1014
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 4: is concentrated into the hands of the few. He said,

1015
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 4: but you cannot have both. We have to choose. And

1016
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 4: that was raised or a one hundred years ago, and

1017
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: now we're seeing the greatest concentration and shift into the

1018
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 4: hands of the wealthy. And Democrats have not spoken forcefully

1019
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 4: enough around demanding that the alter rich have to put

1020
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 4: more skin in the game and pay their fair share

1021
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: in taxes. That's the winning message. We have to organize

1022
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: around that message and be okay with standing up to

1023
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 4: the supremacist ideology that has not only want to divide us,

1024
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 4: but ultimately is causing so much fear and terror. We

1025
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 4: stand up for working people and demand that the alter rich,

1026
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 4: and that's what we're doing in Chicago. Pay their fair share.

1027
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 4: That's the message. That's the work that I believe that's

1028
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 4: going to galvanize black, brown, white, Asian young old people

1029
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 4: from the West coast to the East coast everywhere else

1030
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 4: in between, to ensure that we finally have one nation

1031
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 4: that is built under God and liberty and justice can

1032
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 4: actually exist for everyone.

1033
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: It is how Mandani, despite you know, people trying to

1034
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: throw around the word socialism to scare people, it is

1035
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: how he has been able to be the now the

1036
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: front runner in the race is like running against the

1037
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: message of like I think we all see in this

1038
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: country that we have a wealth inequality problem that is pervasive.

1039
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: But even when you have those right message, as you

1040
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: have experienced personally, that doesn't always point to or translate

1041
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: to approval ratings. You know, right now, obviously I'm sure

1042
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: you're aware of what your approval rating is. It's not

1043
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: very high in the city of Chicago. And despite the

1044
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: fact that you're doing these things on immigration and reparations

1045
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: and affordable housing, how do you feel you've handled getting

1046
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: your message to the citizens and what is that I

1047
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: guess ultimately, what do you take from that the fact

1048
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: that you do have a very low approval rating despite

1049
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: what you feel like our signature accomplishments for your administration.

1050
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 4: Well, let me just, first of all, let me say that,

1051
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 4: you know, I don't, you know, necessarily get overwhelmed by

1052
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 4: like how someone feels or thinks about me. You know,

1053
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 4: when I launched my campaign a few years ago, you know,

1054
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 4: I be a millionaire, a bureaucrat, an incumbent, you know,

1055
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 4: multiple holders, state reps, activists, and I believe I was

1056
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 4: pulling that two point two percent, and no one thought

1057
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 4: that I had a chance. I believe that what's happening

1058
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 4: in this moment is that it's very clear that that

1059
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 4: people have expectations of government that that I believe is

1060
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 4: actually healthy, that they want more from government, and where

1061
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 4: I believe that I have to be far more thoughtful.

1062
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 4: And this is what I've learned in my first two

1063
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 4: years in office, is that I took for granted that

1064
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 4: people would just know the work that we're doing. So

1065
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 4: we attack in particular issue, you see the results and

1066
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 4: just move on to the next. You know, my father

1067
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 4: was a pastor, and I'm just remembering, you know, a

1068
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 4: passage in Mark chapter eight, where Jesus you know, warned

1069
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 4: of the you know, the disciples of the yeast of

1070
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 4: the Pharisees. In other words, if you don't share your message,

1071
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 4: your opposition will, and it will most certainly spread. And

1072
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Speaker 4: you know what I have done over the last seven

1073
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 4: months is I spent more time in the community describing

1074
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 4: not just the what, but why we're doing it. And

1075
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Speaker 4: as we continue to do that, we're already seeing a

1076
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 4: turn of how people are receiving this message. And so

1077
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 4: I took that for granted. I just figured that you know,

1078
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 4: those who were responsible to carry the news, that would

1079
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 4: share all of the work that we were doing. And

1080
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Speaker 4: not to say that this, you know, would relinquish you know,

1081
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 4: me from from having some responsibility, or that it wouldn't,

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Speaker 4: you know, call for some critique of how I've handled things.

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Speaker 4: And certainly I'm not perfect, and you know, I always

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Speaker 4: remind people that, you know, something, it doesn't have to

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Speaker 4: be perfect in order for it to work. And that's

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Speaker 4: speaking from someone who's been married for twenty seven years.

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Speaker 4: But we have to work towards perfection. And so, you know,

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Speaker 4: this conversation with you and other conversations that I'm going

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Speaker 4: to continue to have to continue to make the case

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Speaker 4: that we are building the safest, most affordable big city

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Speaker 4: in America as crime continues to go down, as our

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Speaker 4: investments continue to go up. This is the pathway of

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Speaker 4: progressive governance. This is not a theory, you know, This

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Speaker 4: is not you know, someone's just hope or aspiration or

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Speaker 4: actually seeing the benefit of how we're showing up for

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Speaker 4: the unhoused, how we're showing up for you know, our

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Speaker 4: workers as the most pro workers city in America. And

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm going to continue to make the case

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Speaker 4: with residents across the city of how these investments are

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Speaker 4: ultimately leading towards the protection of working class and creating

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Speaker 4: opportunities for families to be able to move into the

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Speaker 4: middle class.

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Speaker 1: All right, final question, mister mayor. I call this the

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Speaker 1: messy question because.

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Speaker 5: This where we make the blogs. This is where that

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Speaker 5: headline comes. I don't know if this right now, I

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Speaker 5: don't know if it's going to help the approval writing

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Speaker 5: or not. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. All right, here's a messy question. Start cut.

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Speaker 1: You have Michael Jordan, Dwayne Wade, and Derek Rose, all

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Speaker 1: in their prime.

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Speaker 5: Who you starting who you mention who you cutting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, look, you know, we know that Michael Jordan

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Speaker 4: is the greatest of all time, and Derek Rose is

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Speaker 4: Chicago threw and through. Derek Rose is starting absolutely starting. Yes, yes, wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this may be the most controversial answer that's ever happened.

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Speaker 4: If you're talking about their prime. You know, Derek Rose,

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Speaker 4: I believe, was Rookie of the Year and had m

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Speaker 4: VPS and his early stages far before Michael Jordan. So

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Speaker 4: we're just talking about the prime of these individuals. There

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Speaker 4: was We're talking about one of the most explosive players

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Speaker 4: of all time. Had Derek Rose stayed healthy, I am

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Speaker 4: confident that you know that his legacy would have been stronger. Now,

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Speaker 4: look as far as someone who can come in and

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Speaker 4: make a clutch shot. When Derrick Grosse breaks down the

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Speaker 4: defense and passes us out to the wing, mj is

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Speaker 4: hitting that shot down. So you see who I'm.

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Speaker 5: Cutting right and d Waye is my homie. I can't

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Speaker 5: wait to tell him. I'mnna call him right now, but

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Speaker 5: like listen, you gotta go.

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Speaker 4: He's Chicago through and through. I'm just simply saying when

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Speaker 4: we saw d Wade on the Bulls by that time.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know, I probably could have put up

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Speaker 4: five points against d Wade.

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Speaker 5: I love disrespect.

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Speaker 1: So you are starting Derek Ross, you are benching Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 1: and you are cutting d Wade.

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Speaker 5: And I remind you Michael Jordan did win Rookie of

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Speaker 5: the Year, just so you know, all right.

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Speaker 1: His MVP came I believe in his fourth season. So

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Speaker 1: that's not he was the man kind of right away me.

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Speaker 4: No, No, look very well, and it's why I think

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Speaker 4: he'll be a good addition off the.

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Speaker 5: That is awesome. Well, listen, Mayor John said, good luck.

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Speaker 1: I'm really you know, one of the long standing arguments

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Speaker 1: I used to have about my cousin city in Chicago

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Speaker 1: being a detroiter is when they want to play that

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Speaker 1: what about Chicago game, whenever you try to make them

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Speaker 1: somewhat aware of white supremacy, they want to throw away

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Speaker 1: in Chicago's murder rate.

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Speaker 5: Well, now they can stop doing that.

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't have done it to be dealing with, but

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Speaker 1: it's it really should be talked about more of what

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Speaker 1: you have done in the city and reducing the crime.

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Speaker 1: I know that's always been paramount and a big part

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Speaker 1: of your platform and just I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: politicians do it, I really don't, but the enthusiasm from

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Speaker 1: the ones that really are committed to the community, it

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Speaker 1: always comes through. So good luck with everything in the city.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy a peaceful summer hopefully continued in Chicago. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to call you wait and tell them this,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun.

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Speaker 4: I would take some further exactly. Let me thank you

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Speaker 4: as well, Jamil for your work and you know what

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Speaker 4: you have meant to so many people around this country.

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Speaker 4: The way you stood a better time in which you

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Speaker 4: know you were you know, you know they were trying

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Speaker 4: to put you in time out in isolation for standing

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Speaker 4: to your true to your values and to see the

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Speaker 4: way your career has expanded and how many lives you

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Speaker 4: have reached. It truly is inspiration for me that even

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Speaker 4: you know when people misunderstand or try to characterize you

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Speaker 4: a certain way, that you know if there's real purpose

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Speaker 4: that God has for someone that not even your greatest

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Speaker 4: opposition can get in a way of that. So thank

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Speaker 4: you for your tenacity and taking that Midwestern uh if

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Speaker 4: you will, strength into your work. So we're very proud

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Speaker 4: of you. As a community, and and we're grateful that

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Speaker 4: you're providing a platform for so many voices to be

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Speaker 4: heard in this moment.

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Speaker 5: All right, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: One more segment to go coming up. Now, it's the

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Speaker 1: Final Spin. Time Now for the final Spin. The headline

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey are engaged the spin. I'm

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Speaker 1: sick of them and even worse the fixes in Now

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Speaker 1: Roger Goodell is going to figure out a way to

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Speaker 1: get the Chiefs back in the Super Bowl so Taylor

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Speaker 1: Swift can perform the truth. Sports fans, I'm gonna need

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Speaker 1: y'all to calm down, because y'all was already running with

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Speaker 1: that as soon as this announcement was announced. Now, when

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Speaker 1: did we become so toxic that we hate on what

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Speaker 1: appears to be a good love story.

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Speaker 5: That cute Listen, we are reminded seven hundred.

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Speaker 1: And forty five times a day how shitty this world

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Speaker 1: is and that people suck. If two people find love

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Speaker 1: in a hopeless place, let's celebrate that. Klay Thompson and

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Speaker 1: Meg thee Stallion, you are now officially my favorite sports

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