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Speaker 2: James Flatley, the third Admiral Flatley, that is all retired

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Speaker 2: Rear Admiral the United States Navy, ninety years old. James

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Speaker 2: Flatley was a naval aviator fighter pilot, test pilot, and

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Speaker 2: as we heard at my engagement party, the only man

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Speaker 2: who ever successfully land a SEE one thirty cargo plane

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Speaker 2: on an aircraft carrier. So Admiral Flatley excited to see

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Speaker 2: you for your ninetieth birthday this weekend. Excited to see

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Speaker 2: your wonderful wife, Nancy, and uh, and celebrating Charleston, which,

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Speaker 2: as I said, one of my favorite cities. A lot

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Speaker 2: of a lot of really interesting folks there, a lot

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Speaker 2: of naval aviators, some marine, some seals. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: quite a quite a group.

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Speaker 1: I met him and his wife at your engagement party

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Speaker 1: up in New York a couple of years ago. Now,

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Speaker 1: incredible stories. That's a I mean, to land a plane

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Speaker 1: about the visual of it, to say nothing of the

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Speaker 1: skill that would be required. And what is the story there?

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Speaker 1: Third generation? Basically, Uh, they've.

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Speaker 2: Now naval service, naval naval combat aviator. Yeah, her great

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Speaker 2: as you know, my father in law an F eighteen pilot.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I just saw you'll be very happy.

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Speaker 2: Did you just see this? They're getting ready, they're gearing

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Speaker 2: up for Top Gun Part three. I saw that already

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Speaker 2: doing it. So we have to have Captain Flatley on

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Speaker 2: the show again to talk about the latest iteration of

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Speaker 2: the Top Gun program.

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Speaker 1: So it took what nineteen to eighty six, I think,

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Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, was the original top Gun and

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Speaker 1: there listening went and saw it multiple times. It was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Took thirty some odd years for that sequel to be made,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I want to say happy birthday, Happy ninetieth

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Speaker 2: to Admiral Flatley.

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Speaker 3: Sunday Hey with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: Bob from Newmarket, Iowa. It's got something very interesting to

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Speaker 2: tell us. What's up, Bob, Hey?

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Speaker 4: Tell me I'm listening to you.

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Speaker 2: All the laiters, so your caucus for Trump tonight, But

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Speaker 2: you wanted to tell me something about who your boat

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was on the Luca, Hatchie and Uhlan with

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Speaker 2: So Admiral Flatley was your captain back when you were

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Speaker 4: What was the name of the ship, Melusa, Hatchie.

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Speaker 2: Melousa Hatchie. There we go, and he was a great

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Speaker 2: For an air show. It sounds like very cool. Awesome Bob,

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Speaker 2: thanks for calling in. And this this runs. I was

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Speaker 2: of the admiral and I was learning I don't know

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Speaker 2: But I was talking to commanders and captains and admirals

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Speaker 2: great to be there at clayanbuck dot com. We got

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of ranks for the different members

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Speaker 2: there's all these jokes about like Navy beating Army and

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Speaker 2: all this. I'm like, waits the who's the what's it

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Speaker 1: And you know what, And I'm gonna certainly indict myself here.

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Speaker 1: Am I?

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Speaker 2: The CIA guy's got to be careful, right he just

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Speaker 2: I just skulk around in the corner, laughing at everybody's

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Speaker 1: Fire and secretly eavesdropping through your high tech spy. It's

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Speaker 2: That's But the name of the ship is the USS

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Speaker 2: Calusa Hatchie. That is quite a name, right, That is

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Speaker 1: Based on that name? A lot of time battles and

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Speaker 1: Karen and Robbins, Iowa near Cedar Rapids. You want to

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Speaker 1: encourage everybody out there, regardless of who they're supporting, to

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Speaker 5: It's a privilege to talk to your audience. Hey, I

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Speaker 5: down for this privilege to vote. Islands. Get out there,

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Speaker 5: Suck it up, Buttercup. I'm tired of hearing about low

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Speaker 3: Do it.

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Speaker 2: Was he a Karen? Was your dad captured the Battle

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Speaker 5: Father was a nose gunner and a b twenty four Liberator.

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Speaker 5: He flew fifteen missions over eastern Europe. He had to

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Speaker 2: I think they're making Karen, that's an amazing story. And

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Speaker 1: I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: So they're doing a show, a World War two show

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Speaker 2: about is it European theater or is it Pacific theater stuff?

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Speaker 2: I think it's European theater. It's like Band of Brothers,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right, Buck. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: Band of Brothers, so good. So if you want to

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Speaker 3: Read Sundays with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: Now Clay is actually a dad. I'm working on it,

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Speaker 2: but so you know, when you are a dad, dad

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Speaker 2: in this. Anyway. You may have seen this though a

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Speaker 2: be either of us saying he's you know, he's just

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Speaker 2: First of all, Clay, I got two questions for you. One,

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Speaker 2: He's a guy against the female track star D one

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Speaker 2: track star? And two, how do you think you would do?

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Speaker 2: Right now? No training, no nothing, You get up out

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Speaker 1: She would smoke me and it wouldn't be remotely close.

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Speaker 1: And I would just be happy if I finished the

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Speaker 1: Look, here's the deal. When I've said I put a

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