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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season thirteen, episode five

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Speaker 1: of Does Daily's Eight Guys January twelve, two eight teen.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien, ak Terra Jack Dill. That

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Speaker 1: courtesy of at Miles of Gray, and I'm joined to

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Speaker 1: find my co host, Mr Miles Gray. That's right, it's

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Speaker 1: your boy, Chane Miles Gracian in the building. I can't

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Speaker 1: be stopped. I'm bringing everybody moving, my aunt, my fucking mom,

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Speaker 1: my grandma, my grandpa. Everybody's coming funk out of here.

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Speaker 1: And we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by the hilarious stand up comedian and podcast host Sarah June. Hello,

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Speaker 1: a k A summer loving? Is that? What do you mind?

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Speaker 1: You know, June? Summer? I love summer Greece. The country.

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Speaker 1: Greece is the word, it's have you heard? The style

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Speaker 1: is a place that's feeling. It's got groove, it's got meat. Yeah, okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm savy. That song is the Men's the men's

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Speaker 1: version or the men's verses in that song, or awfully

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Speaker 1: Rad didn't tell me more? Yeah that summer? Yeah? Did

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Speaker 1: you get very far? But when he goes like this,

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Speaker 1: when did you get very far? He's like squeezing something.

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Speaker 1: It's like I was like, even as a kid, I

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Speaker 1: was like, damn. Yeah. Know when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: my friend Melissa was in a production of Grease, and

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Speaker 1: when they did the song Grease Lightning, when they were

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Speaker 1: like the chicksel cream, I was like, how you young

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Speaker 1: for this? Yeah? We were eight? Yeah, well you know

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Speaker 1: that's the beauty of music theater. Yeah. Sorry doing what

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Speaker 1: is something from your search history that is reveiling about

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Speaker 1: who you are the human being? The last thing I

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Speaker 1: searched was young David Attenborough because somebody told me that

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Speaker 1: he was hot as a young man, and it turns

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Speaker 1: out they were correct. Yeah, it's a pretty hot, pretty

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Speaker 1: hot young guy. And all the pictures are of him

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Speaker 1: like caressing and feeding baby animals, so that, you know,

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Speaker 1: really ups the smoking factor. Oh yes, wow, look at you,

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Speaker 1: David Amberg. He's never he's never been ripped in the

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Speaker 1: way that nobody born before nineteen eighty has ever been ripped,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, there's a modern ripped and

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Speaker 1: then uh, but it's also not a dad bought He's

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Speaker 1: just a guy. He's just a skinny guy and he

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Speaker 1: loves to sit on the beach and play with animals.

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Speaker 1: It was easier to be fit back then because the

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Speaker 1: food wasn't like just you know, laden with fat and right,

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Speaker 1: and nobody went to the gym. He has like an

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Speaker 1: office body, you know, but he's hanging out on the

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Speaker 1: beach shirtless. It's that's when I get mad when I

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Speaker 1: see pictures like people back in the day, like who

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Speaker 1: you know, weren't working out, but everyone's like just rail

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Speaker 1: thinking like wow, look what processed foods. It helped that

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Speaker 1: they smoked like two packs a day. That helped, But

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Speaker 1: the piles of cocaine okay, cool, Well, help let me

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Speaker 1: write that down from a new day. Highly recommend people

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Speaker 1: look at videos of people working out, like and I

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Speaker 1: think it's like the nineteen twenties there something Uh, they

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Speaker 1: just didn't even know how exercise worked, so they would

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Speaker 1: like they're like people ending with like a belt sander

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Speaker 1: type thing that's just like moving them. But and like

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Speaker 1: they don't know that that that's not working. They don't

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Speaker 1: know they have to use a shake weight. They want

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Speaker 1: to get any results, you have to simulate masturbating someone

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Speaker 1: to get in shape. Yeah, I like to pretend I'm

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Speaker 1: jacking off someone behind my head to get their tricept workout. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's something you think is overrated? Um, here's something overrated?

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Speaker 1: Jack Neil Yokio, M it's fine, Okay, it's fine. Around

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Speaker 1: is too much? Furvor it is? It is overrated in

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Speaker 1: the classical sense of like it's good. It's not as

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Speaker 1: great as everybody's been saying. It's uh, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: a fucking anime. It's I don't know. Really. The most

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Speaker 1: interesting about Neo Yoko is is it an anime? Because

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Speaker 1: it is American produced? Right? So does that make it

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Speaker 1: technically not an anime? That's the most interesting thing about

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Speaker 1: the show is the debate around is it actual anime? Right?

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Speaker 1: And I think that's personally I find that to be

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Speaker 1: a very interesting question. I will not upset your listeners

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Speaker 1: with the long discussion that I've had the subject. But

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Speaker 1: New York of the show, it's it's like pretty good.

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Speaker 1: So this seems like I feel like when when Stranger

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Speaker 1: Things came out, everyone's coming here saying that's overrated. It's like, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's bad. Yeah, Like, but people are

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Speaker 1: getting way too hyped over then It's not like revolutionary.

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Speaker 1: Another thing overrated that is bad. Kasa Hawkins. Kasa Hawkins

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Speaker 1: is a legislation in California that was passed in that

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Speaker 1: prohibits rent control from happening. So that means it makes

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Speaker 1: it easier for landlords to up your rent and up

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Speaker 1: your rent and up your rent. And it also prohibits

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Speaker 1: vacancy control, which means that if a landlord has an

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Speaker 1: empty apartment or unit or whatever, UM and nobody in

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Speaker 1: the city can pay as much as they want. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they don't have to roll lower the price. They can

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Speaker 1: just wait. They can just wait until richer people move

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Speaker 1: here and fill it up. So KOSTA Hawkins is on

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Speaker 1: the table for repeal and yesterday there was a vote

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Speaker 1: on it and UM a lot of members of our

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Speaker 1: state's in it UM voted to abstain. Yeah, because they

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Speaker 1: don't want to piss off real estate developers who want

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Speaker 1: Costa Hawkins to remain in place. But they also don't

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Speaker 1: want uh tenants who are like I mean, do you

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Speaker 1: know anyone that owns the house? UM tenants have had

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Speaker 1: the people power. So yeah, they don't want to piss

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Speaker 1: off their constituency like real estate developers for the people

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Speaker 1: come on. Now, what's something that's underrated? Underrated? All right,

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Speaker 1: I got a secret for you guys. It's called honey

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Speaker 1: on eggs. Wait what Yeah, you had a egg over

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Speaker 1: easy or over medium. Put it on a piece of bread, right,

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Speaker 1: crack that yelk open, get that running, drip a little

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Speaker 1: honey on there. Whoa yeah? Interesting? Okay, where did where?

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Speaker 1: How did you encounter this? My mom told me, and

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Speaker 1: some coworker or something told her this is recently youthing.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, this is why I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah, I to come on your podcast

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Speaker 1: and let the people know. Yeah, a little bit of

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Speaker 1: honey on your eggs. It sounds weird and like I

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Speaker 1: don't like stuff that's super sweet. So I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna like, oh my god, it's fucking amazing, dude,

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Speaker 1: right like it's it's unbelievably good. Okay, I can't believe

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Speaker 1: I haven't been eating it my whole life. Like that.

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Speaker 1: We get some, Yeah, we definitely need to get some.

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Speaker 1: We might have to do that in between the breaks.

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Speaker 1: You get a good egg, you drip a little honey

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Speaker 1: on the yolk. That's the thing that's delicious. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that makes sense because lots of foods, like lots of

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Speaker 1: sweet foods involve eggs and exactly eggs and sugar. It's rich,

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Speaker 1: it's delicious, the basis of all of my favorite foods. Right,

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Speaker 1: sauces sauces, saucea age. All right. We're trying to take

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Speaker 1: a sample of the ideas that are out there changing

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Speaker 1: in the world. We talked about pop culture, the news.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to take eggs, honey. We're trying to take

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Speaker 1: the temperature of the mob share consciousness of the human

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Speaker 1: species miles where we at today. But it's about forty

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Speaker 1: three degrees celsius. Yeah, this is all for for everybody

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Speaker 1: on the metric system out there, and not on fahrenheit

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Speaker 1: because we're not trying to push an agenda. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's about forty three degrees. That's super hot. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: mean it's well, we'll get into we know why we're

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Speaker 1: hot in here today. It is hot. It's hot, And

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Speaker 1: the way we like to start that out is by

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Speaker 1: asking our guest, what is something that people believe, the

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Speaker 1: know to be false. What is a myth? A myth

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Speaker 1: is that having a viral video on YouTube is fun

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Speaker 1: and help your career. Okay, yep, this is not true

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Speaker 1: and I can verify this. Okay, So you had a viral,

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Speaker 1: a viral hit. I had a viral hit some years

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Speaker 1: ago and I got jack ship buddy. You mean Nyan Catt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: people don't know that about you. Have we talked about this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so that you are the mother of

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Speaker 1: Nyan Cats. Cat you Katt is a video. It is

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Speaker 1: a looping animated gift of a cat whose body is

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Speaker 1: a pop tart sort of in an eight bit style.

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Speaker 1: Was made by an artist named Chris Torres uh and um.

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Speaker 1: Then there's a song behind it that has a very

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Speaker 1: is it's like a very annoying yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: I made this video, I put it on YouTube. H

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Speaker 1: it went viral in many, many years ago. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's part of the Internet fabric. It's a class if.

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Speaker 1: I yeah, I hate tooot my own horn. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it. I got some money out of it. I

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Speaker 1: am not rich from it, as a lot of people think,

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Speaker 1: because I am not the owner of the image or

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Speaker 1: the song, so I could not profit directly from it. Um,

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Speaker 1: the owner of the image can and does and uh

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Speaker 1: we have we have a contract. Oh cool, yes, um,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't make that much money from it anymore.

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Speaker 1: But but back he was gonna along you look and look,

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Speaker 1: four million right now, you know what I mean. That's

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Speaker 1: why I have a lot of YouTube subscribers. But guess what.

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Speaker 1: They all hate everything else I make. They hate to

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Speaker 1: for them. Literally every comment again is like needs more

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Speaker 1: Neon ship. Yeah. I got some good comments for a

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Speaker 1: while that we're like, why don't you make another Neon

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Speaker 1: cat right like but with a twist like noon Dog?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, people have made this. The point

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Speaker 1: that's straight, exactly straight. You get the jazz one, you

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Speaker 1: get the goth one, you get like evil one. Now

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Speaker 1: I don't have to make these, other people make them.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes it a meme. It is the property

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Speaker 1: of the Internet. It's a collective. And in films too,

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Speaker 1: they always do the premise like oh and then the

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Speaker 1: video went viral and everything changed for this character. It's right.

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Speaker 1: I remember I got a video that like like over

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Speaker 1: the local news, like they referenced it because it's like

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Speaker 1: big biggest thing because my name wasn't attached to it.

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Speaker 1: So like I'm in sort of a unique position. We're like,

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Speaker 1: it's not like a comedy video I made went viral.

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Speaker 1: It's not like a video of me performing or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It was straight up was just like a random thing

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Speaker 1: I threw together for my boyfriend at the time. And uh,

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Speaker 1: suddenly everybody's like, so you know what, I got a

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Speaker 1: ton of ten year olds subscribing to my YouTube channel

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Speaker 1: my continent. Right, how many views does it have? A

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four million? Motherfucker's so yeah, people who

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Speaker 1: are like, yeah, I want viral and this is what

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Speaker 1: you're doing. Sorry. At the end, you gotta hit people

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Speaker 1: up with your venomo because you know what we have

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Speaker 1: veno exactly and people need to know. Like I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: I bet you every single person who listened to this

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Speaker 1: has heard of Nancat or no, like if they saw it,

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Speaker 1: they would know. And I had people tell me that

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Speaker 1: was a big part of my childhood. Okay, well you

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Speaker 1: know what you can do. You can give Starrow June

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Speaker 1: do think he truly believes that this is like breaking

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Speaker 1: taboos and breaking boundaries and that those are good things

425
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: to have in art. And I agree that's absolutely true,

426
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: but that does not mean putting laborers, which an actor

427
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: is a fucking laborer, and you are putting them in

428
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: a position where they are in an unsafe work environment

429
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: and it's fucking unacceptable. Yeah, you want to break boundaries.

430
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: You do it with a coalition of willing people, exactly.

431
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: You don't. That's how you do it. That's how you

432
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: do it above board. You don't. You don't, got you

433
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 1: and being like well hey we we just rebels. So

434
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: like yeah, and if you can't find any women to

435
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: willingly do what you want to do, maybe what you

436
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 1: want to do is really fucked up to women's right. Sorry,

437
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: I got real mad. That's all good. That's why we're

438
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: out here trying to talk about this is these are

439
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: the issues, right, So this is this is what I

440
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: think as far as James Renko goes, is like, I

441
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what goes through his head. Um.

442
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: I do see him do a lot of stuff. I mean,

443
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: we all know, like what his career is like, we

444
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: all know he likes to do a bunch of crazy

445
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: ship and go to six grad programs at once or

446
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: whatever the funk this guy likes to do. Um. So

447
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: I do think like that the privilege that that he

448
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: has as a man and as a famous guy, he

449
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: doesn't know what it's like to not be that. I

450
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: think that's important to think about. He's like, oh, these

451
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: people consented, this person she she agreed to appear dude

452
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: in my movie for less than a hundred dollars, and

453
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, dude, but you don't understand that that's

454
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: not normal, right. I feel like he's used to women,

455
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: especially like doing whatever he wants them to do and

456
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: not knowing the difference between enthusiastic consent and begrudging I

457
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: really need this job, right exactly. Yeah, just because something

458
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: is not illegal doesn't mean that it's not exploitative, right

459
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: or immoral. But I can also say I do understand

460
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: how that's confusing to him, Like not to excuse it

461
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: at all, but I do understand how like that's confusing

462
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: to him as somebody who spends his whole life, you know.

463
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: I've talked to people who said, like, you know, he

464
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: walks into a restaurant or something and like literally all

465
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: the women like throw themselves at him. Yeah, and that's

466
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: got to completely warp you. And so it's I I

467
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: really see how he can say I didn't do anything

468
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: wrong and truly believe it, and and consider himself an

469
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: ally and truly believe it. And at the same time,

470
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: the women that are accusing him, I believe them as well.

471
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: But I think you could tell there's there was an

472
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Speaker 1: element of discomfort even as he tried to defend it

473
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: that I think he was processing, and even on seth

474
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: Meyers like where he you could kind of feel like, well,

475
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: maybe if there was a thing I did wrong, Like

476
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: it was definitely a process, because that's always what happens.

477
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: There's always the defense of like, well, I didn't do

478
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: anything wrong because of course you didn't set out to

479
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: do anything malicious. And then after a bunch of people

480
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: have told you you did this thing that hurt me,

481
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: then you're like, wait a second, right, And yeah, I

482
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: don't think the path he's going down where he says

483
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: I have my like basically, he and through his lawyer

484
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: are saying these women are not telling the truth. And

485
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: then he's saying, but I totally believe in their ability

486
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: to say this is like a little I don't know that. Yeah,

487
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: that just seems a little bit doesn't genuine. It's fully

488
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: lawyer talk, and it is um it is irresponsible. I think,

489
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: uh it is to protect him from liability. And at

490
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: this point I don't give a funk about the liability

491
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: of somebody who's rich. Like if all of these women

492
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: decided to get together and sue him, which I very

493
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: strongly doubt they will, because this is such a gray area,

494
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, like as hard as it, we can't even

495
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: talk about it. We can't even decide what the funk

496
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: it was he did. We don't take that to court.

497
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: You have do you have a DNA sample? Like? No?

498
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: You know how hard it is to convict rape, right,

499
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: And this all happened a long time ago. So the

500
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: point is, like, I don't think they're going to sue him.

501
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: The reason he is, he is dodging liability is so

502
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: he won't get sued. But fuck you, you're rich, get sued.

503
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: That's why. Yeah, that's why some people on the internet

504
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: we're like, okay, well then give donate all your money

505
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: to rain. Yeah totally. It's like mass You're not going

506
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: to get sued from this. Um. It will hurt your image,

507
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: it will hurt your reputation. Literally, the fucking least you

508
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 1: can do is give millions of dollars away two victims

509
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: of the same trauma that you caused. And I guess

510
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: speaking of apologies, Dan Harmon on Harmon Town apologized to

511
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: the former writer on a community Megan Gans about his behavior. Uh,

512
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: and you know, it was a very interesting Like it

513
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: was definitely the first of its kind of someone copying

514
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: to their behavior that I have seen. Yeah, I listened

515
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: to that and it was very good. Um, I was

516
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: really Again, Dan harmon Uh is somebody who I used

517
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: to be a really big fan of, and he is

518
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: a very honest guy on his podcast, and sometimes that

519
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: means copying to stuff that makes me hate him. Um.

520
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: His apology was, it felt to me very sincere. Um.

521
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: He admitted to stuff that was like, very very nuanced,

522
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: and he seemed to really understand and he said, I

523
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: know this because I've talked to a bunch of smart

524
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: women in my life in private and figured out what happened. Um,

525
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: that's that's all we fucking want, honestly, for like and

526
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: and it is important to point out that there was

527
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: no physical assault in any of her accusations. It was

528
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: that he was attracted to her, and he used his

529
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: position as her boss to move that forward in a

530
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: way that she was not comfortable with and to show

531
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: favoritism that she was very uncomfortable with. And I think

532
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: that's a really important thing to number one acknowledge and

533
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: number two cop to, Like that's not something you. I mean,

534
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: it is something a good court for I don't know,

535
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: but um, it was a very good apology and it

536
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: made me feel much better listening to it. It really

537
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: made me, um feel a lot better about liking that

538
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: guy's work, to be honest, just to hear him say,

539
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: these are not things that I would have done if

540
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: I respected women in a fundamental way, that's huge. It's

541
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: a self awareness. I think that sets it apart from

542
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: most other apologies. So yeah, in that way, yeah, I

543
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: think it's I mean, this is like Luis Kay's apology

544
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: or acknowledgement or whatever you call it. You can't really

545
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: call it an apology because he didn't say I'm sorry

546
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: and in the statement, but his acknowledging what he did

547
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: like started down that path at least, but then it

548
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: like kind of veered off defense and got defensive. Um

549
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: with Franco, I think like the the worst part of

550
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: the Louis Kay thing, other than you know, how horrifying

551
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: it might have been for those people in that room,

552
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: was that he kept saying I don't know what they're

553
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: talking about, they're crazy for like five years, which is

554
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: just horrible. And I think like that that should be

555
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: The lesson that Franco takes from Louis c. K and

556
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: Dan Harmon is like, you know on what you did

557
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: and demonstrate that you understand why you cannot be an

558
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: ally without recognizing your complicity in this, like to say

559
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: I did nothing. I'm a perfect guy. I'm a I'm

560
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: a feminist and that means I've never done anything wrong

561
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: towards women. No, we live in patriarchy. I have internalized misogyny.

562
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: We all do. Like it is part of our fucking

563
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: journey to wokeness to look at things that we've done

564
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: in the past, that we did without thinking, and that's

565
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: really the most important things. Like these are things people

566
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: do without thinking and they think that makes them blameless,

567
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: but that's not true. And it's okay to to make mistakes,

568
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: and it really is okay to do shitty things if

569
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: you then learn from them. If you don't, if you

570
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: keep squashing it and saying, no, those people are crazy,

571
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything wrong. They're overreacting. You're part of

572
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: the problem. Tell them all right, we're gonna take a

573
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: quick break and we will be right back and we're back. Hey,

574
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: those eggs with honey, We're pretty good delicious. Um, So

575
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: we wanted to talk about sweet and sloppy, Sweet and

576
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: sloppy ship hole Gate, we wanted to talk about not

577
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: sweet and sloppy, just sloppy. Uh morning, yes man, Because

578
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: shitty ray as white men have become America's new greatest export.

579
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: We used to fucking have people thinking America is great

580
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: and I would love to live there, Like look at

581
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: all these cool Americans that we can yeah exactly. And

582
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: now when you look at how oh I love Marlboro

583
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: cigarettes and uh, you know, like a Mustang. So we

584
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: have you know, just looking. Even in the last couple

585
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: of weeks, you have Logan Paul, who Japan is like,

586
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: do not come back, and if you do, we are

587
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: fucking the police want to talk to your dumbass. And

588
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: you have Pete Hoekstra. That is how everyone should treat

589
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: every YouTube start by the way they should not be

590
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: allowed to Yeah exactly, do not come in here. And

591
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: because that's problematic because this motherfucker's out here wilding out

592
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: in Tokyo, and a lot of people in Japan are like,

593
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: this is not how we want people to think they

594
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: can behave in this country. When the Olympics happened, in

595
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: two years. This is not the example that you want

596
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: to see, like, oh yeah, we're fine with all this

597
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: dumb shit anyway. Nack. Then there's Pete Hoxtra, who's already

598
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: a fucking joke with his like ignorant, you know, Islamophobic

599
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: comments and you know in Holland and all that. And

600
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: now I didn't say that exactly that. No, that is

601
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: what we would call fake news. Um. And now with

602
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: Trump with him referring to people from like Haiti and

603
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: other African countries as ship whole countries. Uh, it is

604
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: we're like a peak, like nobody's sucking with the US

605
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: because you think already the ambassador to Panama is like, yo,

606
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore, Like I honestly can't even

607
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: be near this thing. Yeah, he's like I cannot do this. Yeah,

608
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people have. He was he was like

609
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: the latest one this morning. And then also I think

610
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: maybe it was yesterday, like it was we found out

611
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: Trump doesn't want to go to the UK because like

612
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: clearly they don't want his ass there because he's bullshit

613
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: honestly with him. K Okay, what's the one thing Trump

614
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: and I agree on? Well, look, my love for the

615
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: English Premier League will not allow me to do that.

616
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: Uh in a way, Yes, I am. Now you should

617
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: watch yeah. Um. Then so you also pair that with

618
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: the fact that we also have found her easently that

619
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: like now Spain has overtaken the US as the number

620
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: two was visited country for like international tourists. Like now

621
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: we're even seeing that people don't even want to come

622
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: here like to visit. And we're seeing now like this

623
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: is all the fallout like we thought it was bad

624
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: when Bush was president. You didn't want to go anywhere

625
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: and say you're an American. We may be back there

626
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna have to go and say that I'm

627
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: from Japan and I'll be like, oh, I'm oxtuty friend

628
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: with Japan. Then well thisgether like I'm about to do

629
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: that ship like I used to. So yes, no one

630
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: believes me with that ship. My accents too bad? What

631
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: do you mean like if I go to your own

632
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: people are like your American let me practice my English

633
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: with your right, So yes, and that brings us to

634
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: this whole bullshit now with ship hole gate. I don't

635
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: even I don't know how we want to start this

636
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Speaker 1: because I have I'm I'm so I don't know where

637
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: to go. Is anyone surprised? Are you guys surprised? We

638
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: knew he was racist? That's what I mean. It's like

639
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm seeing people not like people I know, but

640
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: friends people I know, being like, well, I don't know

641
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: if that makes him a racist, and I'm totally no,

642
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't make him a racist, Like everything makes him

643
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: races exactly, just one of many, many, many examples of him.

644
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: He's just a drunk uncle at Thanksgiving and he has

645
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: been since two yeah, or I mean since I mean,

646
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean always his entire whole life. We wouldn't hearing

647
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: about it really since since Obama took office. I think

648
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: it's again now at this point, let's just call it

649
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: what it is. This dude is a fucking straight up racist.

650
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't there's no need to be ambiguous like his

651
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: comments were racist. He is a racist. He definitely hates

652
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: non white people. He defends white supremacists. There's he has

653
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: a record, and I think this he wants more Norwegians

654
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: to here, and we have more nice people like those

655
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: nice pink people from Norway. I mean they're pretty happy

656
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: up there with their right and one year paid maternity.

657
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: Look at that nobody coming from they're loving. Yeah. That

658
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: tourism thing, by the way, is crazy when you think

659
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: about the act that America, like Spain is tiny compared

660
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: to Texas. Like so that's and they're literally in the

661
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 1: middle of of Catalonia trying to break away, Like there's

662
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: a lot of tension there and people still like a man,

663
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: Barcelona's right, exactly, like and now people here that like,

664
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: no one wants to come see fucking Disney World. Dude,

665
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: you try to come here and party like you would

666
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: in Spain, you're gonna get shot, right. I wanted to

667
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: get a statement from so we recently had uh, one

668
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: of our all time great guests, Egar mon place here

669
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: on like a couple of days ago. Uh. And you know,

670
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: we we talked about him being Haitian American and we

671
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: wanted to get a statement from him. Uh. And so

672
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: Anna Hosnier, superproducer, Anna Hosnier, you reached out to Edgar. Oh, yeah,

673
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: I sent Edgar a text asking him for a statement,

674
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: and he what is your official statement? Yeah, that's exactly

675
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: how I went down. And he responded with can I

676
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: send over my brother's statement? Because it's a lot better.

677
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: And this is from Jonathan mom Placier, who said we

678
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: could use his name and quote him, and I quote.

679
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: My mom came here from a hashtag ship whole country

680
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: without in quotes, chain migration, without any money, and not

681
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: speaking the language. Working she put She put herself through

682
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: her associates and nursing and took a job serving others. Unsatisfied.

683
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: She put herself through her bs N while working and

684
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: raising two kids. Unsatisfied, She completed several post graduate certifications

685
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: to further serve her patients while working and raising children. Unsatisfied,

686
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: She put herself through nurse practitioner school while raising three

687
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: kids and working full time. Unsatisfied, She graduated and supervises

688
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: a clinic in an underserved community. Unsatisfied. When she leaves

689
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: that job, she goes to another job, serving convicts in

690
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: the jail system of our community. My mother came from

691
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: a hashtag ship whole country, and she wouldn't trade it

692
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: for a thing. Hashtag haitie damn damn tell them um

693
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: making this country less of a ship hole, like exactly,

694
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: and like working tirelessly to do so. Uh. Whereas Trump

695
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: just you know, gets out of bed after spending the

696
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: morning tweeting and watching Fox News. The responses have been

697
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: all over the place. Yeah, and then we we also

698
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: have Fox News is response. I think we actually have

699
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: a clip from them. I think this is Jesse Waters,

700
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: who used to be like a bill O'Reilly dick writer

701
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: who uh like once they were shorthanded and so sent

702
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: him out with a camera crew to Chinatown and he

703
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: was just like very look at all these Chinese. Yeah,

704
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: he was just wildly offensive. And they were like, hey,

705
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: I get this guy a job. So um, he's a

706
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: professional idiot. He's like racist Tom Green, um, but like

707
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: far far less talented. Yeah, and I don't think Tom

708
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: Green is like a genius or anything. This guy is

709
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: just the absence of This guy's just the of talent personified.

710
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: Do it? Do we have that clip or if it's true?

711
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: This is how the forgotten men and women in American

712
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: talk at the bar. This is how Trump relates to people.

713
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: If you're at a bar in your Wisconsin and you're

714
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: thinking they're bringing in a bunch of Haiti people or

715
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: El Salvadorians or people from Niger, this is how some

716
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: people talk. Is it graceful? No? Is it polite or delicate.

717
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Is it a little offensive, of course it is.

718
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: What This doesn't move the needle at all. This is

719
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: who Trump is. He doesn't care. He shoots from the hip,

720
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: and if you offend, some people find more offensive things

721
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: that are happening in this world, not from the president,

722
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, some fucking a plumber at

723
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: a bar who's racist. I don't care, dude, He's not

724
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: the president of the United States. Are representative to the

725
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: rest of the world. He's not the one that is

726
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: literally in charge of maintaining relationships with other countries. So

727
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: that I don't get fucking newt right. I think the

728
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: other thing, too, is like when he says, like the

729
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: forgotten people, you mean by forgotten that that's when history

730
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: leaves you behind because you have not kept up, Like

731
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: when you are so racist and you haven't caught up

732
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: with the rest of society. That makes you forgotten because

733
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: we are trying to leave that behind. Yeah, that's not

734
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: a tragic Yeah, exactly, you're forgotten. That's that's not how

735
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: don't and don't try and make it this like sort

736
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: of working class argument. Please do not try and spin

737
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: it like America has quote forgotten about white people. America

738
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: will never forget about white rifle. Um, these people are

739
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: not a fucking oppressed minority. It's like, but that's the

740
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: sort of self coptimization like mentality you need to push, Like, well,

741
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: this is how they forgotten people talk. I'm sorry, this

742
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: is this is a real people talk. You know, working

743
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: class people like Donald Trump, real estate developer who literally

744
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: like a fucking stand for the KKKH. Working class people

745
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: are the immigrants out here who are trying to actually

746
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: make better of themselves and take the opportunities here anyway,

747
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: It's inherited millions and millions of dollars, build out constantly. Yeah,

748
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: created tens upon tens of failed businesses. Refers to himself

749
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: as self made because he's he's truly like to step

750
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: away from home plate thinking he hit a home run.

751
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: But so I feel like all of these responses from

752
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: like the Fox News of the world and uh, from

753
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: Trump defenders are focusing on just the word ship hole

754
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: and being like, ah, you know, the language is a

755
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: little strong, but you know what, what can you do?

756
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: That's how some people talk, and like that's not the point.

757
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: It's like when Trump was defending the access Hollywood tape

758
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: and being like it was locker room talk. He's defending

759
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: like the bad words used rather than the overall message

760
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: the Access Hollywood tape was, you know, him bragging about

761
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: raping women. Uh, this is him just dismissing entire groups

762
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: of people who all happened to be black and saying

763
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: we need more people from countries that happened to be

764
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: exclusively white, and like doing it in a way that's

765
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: just like that is the sort of thing that you

766
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: would expect from like smokey back rooms, like in the

767
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: fucking nineteen twenties, right, Um, so yeah, I mean, like

768
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: just focusing on the on the languages, that's ridiculous. And

769
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: I think people need to put more pressure on the

770
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: GOP two because this is your boy, and if you

771
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: think you're gonna fight off a wave in the midterms,

772
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: you need it. Like I don't know if if they're

773
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 1: just gonna keep sucking dick and acting like nothing's wrong,

774
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: keep keep doing it whatever, just let us take over,

775
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: because this is fucking bullshit and not enough people. It's

776
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: interesting to how even a lot of like GOP Congressman

777
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: obviously doing the tight rope block, some are don't give

778
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: a fucking like, yeah, this is racist. He needs apologize

779
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: to everybody on earth, other people like, well, you know,

780
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: the remarks are troubling, Like that's my way to not

781
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: upset my you know, Latino constituents while also not really

782
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: flaming him. So my racist constituents will like vote me

783
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: into reelection. And also so maybe he'll give me a

784
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: position at some point, like maybe he'll promote me. It's

785
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy, and I think also too, it's really

786
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: I feel like every person who has benefited from like

787
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: immigration in this country needs to pull the funk up

788
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: for everybody else right now. Because some of us are lucky.

789
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: We're already here, we already have passports, we already brought

790
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: people over here. Yeah, there are people who are in

791
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: these vulnerable groups who need to like, they need to

792
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: know that there are people who support them too, because

793
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: it's fucking terrifying for some of these people to think,

794
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: oh my god, like does the whole country not give

795
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: a shit? And these are the same things, you know,

796
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: being fucking Japanese people have been through it with being

797
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, villainized and put into fucking camps and ship

798
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: like that. This cannot fucking stand you know what I mean,

799
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: we can. This is dangerous to not fucking call out that. Yo,

800
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: this this guy is a fucking racist supremacist. Yeah, and

801
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: we are and we can. Yeah, this is not this

802
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: is these are facts. I mean, yes, the climate right

803
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: now is such that people who are even standing up

804
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: to ICE agents are being arrested, like in New York.

805
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: It's not just rhetoric. Yeah, this guy's administration is actively

806
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: like enforcing racists agenda. Yeah, and they're even ICE was

807
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: rating seven eleven stores to try because they said they're

808
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: they're hiring illegal immigrants. This seems like it must have

809
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: been just like right off his desk, like yeah, yeah,

810
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: it seems like the sort of racist ship that like,

811
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, it is the kind of racist ship

812
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: that people in like small town America give a shit

813
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: about because they're like I don't like having to see

814
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: a brown person when I'm getting my slurpee. We're we're

815
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: gone beyond words now, like we are we're rounding people up,

816
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: we are detaining people, were separating families like, oh my god, man,

817
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: like we are really slipping into fucking total darkness. Yeah,

818
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: this is uh by by not my account by the

819
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: accounts of many people that lived through it. Uh, this

820
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: is what it felt like to live in Germany in

821
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: the thirties. Right. It is leading up to something, and

822
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: is leading up to something large, and is leading up

823
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: to something international. And that's not an exaggeration, and it's

824
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: very scary. Yeah. So when we were talking about people

825
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: being arrested, Uh, there's immigrant rights leader Robbie Beer who

826
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: was arrested in Manhattan. Uh, you know, the Trump stronghold

827
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: of Manhattan. And then there was a protest to you know,

828
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: uh protests that arrest and more like city council members

829
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: were arrested at that protest. So they're just you know,

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00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: it's it's yeah, it's important too that more politicians they

831
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: let it be known to their constituents that they're here

832
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: for this fight too, because earlier this week there was

833
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: an article about I think, I Think Think progress someone

834
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: they contacted all forty nine members of the Democratic Caucus

835
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: in the Senate, and only seven Senators said they will

836
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: vote against a spending bill that doesn't include a DOCTA fix.

837
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: So like we're even sucking up on the basic ship.

838
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: We had the ability to pass a clean DOCCA bill

839
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: like we had the cloud to do it, and now

840
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: it's just a little worrying that we're not seeing enough

841
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: people really be vocal, even about dreamers and people that

842
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: are here under DOCCA, like to protect these people because

843
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: we're I think we're missing the fundamental point. I think

844
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: you're either there in two schools. I thought you realize

845
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: that America is the strength is in its diversity, the

846
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: reason why that we can attract very capable people to

847
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: and give them the opportunity to better themselves at the

848
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: benefit of the country. Or you are a person who

849
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: thinks America is just for everybody who got in before,

850
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: like the South and Southern Italian wave of immigrants, or

851
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: whatever myopic view of immigration you have in the country,

852
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: if you think Italians or people of color right exactly,

853
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, we're people need to I don't

854
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: know why, because even if you look at Vicente Fox

855
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: when he said Trump, your mouth is the foulship in

856
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: the world, and he's like, what gives you the right

857
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: to proclaim who is not and who is allowed to

858
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: enter the country? Foreign leaders understand the the principles that

859
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: make this country great better than our own president. And

860
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: I guess to clarify. What I mean is in the

861
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: modern understanding of how the country is and like what

862
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: makes it beautiful? As Alexei to Tocoville would say, you

863
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean, the melting pot like trum plants

864
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: to be a fucking king. Yeah, this country was supposed

865
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: to be founded because we did not like kings. If

866
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: you can find somebody closer to a fucking neo king

867
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: than Trump, show me them. I don't know anyone else

868
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: that takes so many pictures in a goddamn marble and

869
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: gold palace. They see themselves as aristocrats. The whole point

870
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: of America was that we were supposed to fucking hate aristocrats.

871
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: I I keep hearing this idea that, like, well, it

872
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 1: can't get any worse, yeah, And I understand why people

873
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: think that, because it hasn't been worse than it is

874
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: up to, right, And I think that's just a failure

875
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: of imagination. It has been very um interesting to see

876
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: all my white friends enter the same cloud of general

877
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: anxiety that every brown friend of mine has lived in

878
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: their entire life. Right, all right, we're gonna take a

879
00:45:51,920 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: quick break. We will be right back, and we're back. Actually,

880
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: the conversation about you know how this is real for

881
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: actual people. Sort of continued into our commercial break, so

882
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: we wanted to, you know, continue it on Mike, Sarah,

883
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: you're saying yeah, and and I have had similar experiences

884
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: in trying to visit your on. Um. I was supposed

885
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: to go last year, uh for the New Year in March,

886
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: and then the travel band happened. And so even though

887
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: technically they would have had to let me into it

888
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: on because I have an running passport, and technically they

889
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: would have had to let me back into the US

890
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: because I am a natural born US citizen with the

891
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: US passport, technically does not necessarily matter anymore, we did

892
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: not want to take the risk of going there. I mean,

893
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: these are these are the fears. You go there, they

894
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: think you're a spying, they put you in jail. Um,

895
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: you go there, everything goes fine. On the way back

896
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: from the airport, they think you're a spying, they put

897
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: you in jail. Everything goes fine, you make it all

898
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: the way back, and then once you get into America

899
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: they won't let you back because they think you're a

900
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: spy for Iran and they put terrorist or a terrorist. Yeah, Um,

901
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, Anna, where does where does your family

902
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: live now? My entire extent of families in Iran. And

903
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: when that travel band happened, I had like the worst

904
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: week in my life because in like seven days I

905
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: had a flight to go to Iran, so great time.

906
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: I was a mess. I didn't know what to do.

907
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: I was constantly calling my father, who was literally my

908
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: dad left like the day the travel ban happened. So

909
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: my Dad's getting on a flight like okay, And so

910
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: that's the thing. I didn't know if I'd be left

911
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: back in the country, and I didn't know what that was.

912
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: Another one of my fears is when I walked into Iran,

913
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: they would take one look at me, be like American,

914
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: put in a cell, because in Iran they don't give

915
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: a fuck. Yeah, they will put you in solid r

916
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: confinement and they will not speak to you, and they

917
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: will not hear you out, and they will not give

918
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: you a lawyer, and the US will not come for you.

919
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: Just suspicious is a justice system set up that you're

920
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: presumed guilty until proven guilty. You're just guilty, and they

921
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: can hold you infinitely. Honestly, It's just like here they

922
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: can hold you on suspicion of something that they do

923
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: not actually have, and yeah they don't. They don't trust

924
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: Americans for good fucking reason. They don't. There's not a

925
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: lot of tourism there. Yeah. I took a flight back

926
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: direct is Stample to l A X thirteen hours. That

927
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: was the most like gut wrenching flight. Like the whole

928
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: time I thought I was going to walk off that flight,

929
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: someone was gonna put me in cuffs and put me

930
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: any like in a cell and be like, so what

931
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: were you doing there? What were you up to help

932
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: you out? Yeah? Which who knows as if it's not sucking,

933
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: harrowing enough to fly out of your own where they're like,

934
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: what's in your bags? What do you have? Like you

935
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: can't take anything there, You can't fucking take anything out.

936
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, it is just bags apart. Like they

937
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: get literally picked up my hard drive and said what's

938
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: on this and I said cat videos, Like I don't know,

939
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: but that's the thing, anime. Bro. When we landed, they

940
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: were like everyone stay seated, and that's when I was sweating,

941
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: Like I was like, oh, that's it, by everybody. And

942
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: then they came through and literally with a list in

943
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: their hand, pulled like fifteen young brown males up and

944
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: walk them right out this plane, and that's when I knew.

945
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm in the clear, but that

946
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: is one of the most fucked up things I've ever witnessed.

947
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: I watched a father get up and say where are

948
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: you taking my son? Where is my son? And they

949
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: were like you need to sit your ass back down,

950
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: And that's when I was like, oh this it was

951
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: Turkish Airlines like from its Temple to l A X

952
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: Direct when they when they pick him up. When you

953
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: landed in l A X. As soon as we landed,

954
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: people you know how everyone just gets up to get

955
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: their bags. Yes, came in was like everyone sit down,

956
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: and that's when I was like, oh, goodbye America, like

957
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm at it, yeah, and really like I was sweating,

958
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: like I didn't know what was going to happen. I

959
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: was in the middle c literally sitting next to two

960
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: white people. So I was like even more stressed out

961
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: because I was just like, everything's great for you guys

962
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: one of these things and I was like I do know,

963
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: and it's like people are like, oh, like it's you

964
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: don't have to be dark. It's your passport, you know.

965
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: It's what you're how many you know, like how many

966
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: vowels in your last year. But that's how wild it

967
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: is, is is that even as US citizens, right, you're subjected

968
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: to this kind of fucking stress and trauma because of

969
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: of the way this country is structured. And it's crazy. Yeah,

970
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: Like I think in this last year, like whether it's

971
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: the travel band or like even for me with Charlottesville,

972
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: like that had me fucked up because I was like,

973
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: oh ship, Like I was like, I guess every white

974
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: person's racist now, like I don't even know what's what anymore,

975
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: and things like that. That we are we were born

976
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: in this country and we're still we we just we're

977
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: not having the the experience or the tranquility of being

978
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: able to say like that's fine of American citizen, I'm

979
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: wanted here, this is fine. This is the climate that

980
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: has been created, and that's and that it's just a

981
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: fucking shame. If you're comfortable flying with we check your privilege, right.

982
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: I have to say, if you don't think white supremacy

983
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: exists in this country and in our judicial system, I

984
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: would ask you to take a look at the Bundy case. Uh,

985
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: not Ted, I mean the family that the family that

986
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: lead an armed insurrection of government lands explicitly with the

987
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: intent of overthrowing the government, and their case got dismissed,

988
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: not not one week ago. You think that could have

989
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: happened to a black teenager. I think that could have

990
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: happened to even like a Latino guy. Like it was over.

991
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they came and took over a government building

992
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: and ship everywhere, and then we're like, all right, our

993
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: and a twelve year old can't walk with a bb

994
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: gun in a park or a right or a skittles

995
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: or whatever. Fun Like it's if you don't think this

996
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: is real, Uh, wake up people. And I had one

997
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: more thing. The other thing is I worry so much

998
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: about my parents because when that happened, my mom is

999
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: a devout Muslim woman. They both both my parents are

1000
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: running their Citizens of America, but they were born in

1001
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: Iran and they have thick accents. I was so scared

1002
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: because my father and I took separate flights. He flew

1003
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: to SFO San Francisco and I flew to l a X.

1004
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: I was also so horrified that my they would put

1005
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: my father in a cell because of his accent or

1006
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: just what he looked like that. That was even another

1007
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: thing where I was like, please let my own father

1008
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: be okay, my little old man dad, And you know

1009
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: I have my issues with my father, but that's my dad.

1010
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: And if any if any I S agent, border control

1011
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: agent stepped to my father, I don't even know if

1012
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: I was actually in the room, what I would do.

1013
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: I'd lose my ship. You would turn to the super

1014
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: saying yeah, I would go in sand and be like,

1015
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: do not talk to my father. Oh my god, dude,

1016
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: my father in an ice holding cell would be the

1017
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: worst interrogated person because he hates to answer questions like

1018
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: every time I'm like how you doing? Straight up, I'm

1019
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: like what are you doing? Where are you taking myself?

1020
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: He's like, don't worry about it. Why asked many questions

1021
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: like that's my dad. He's just hates he's like so

1022
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: irritated just to be a dick to them and make

1023
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: it worse for him because he well, I want a lawyer, Yeah,

1024
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: like where'd you go? What city? Would be like none

1025
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: of your business? And maybe like you're for sure, No, dude,

1026
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: he's just a grouch. He's an old Persian man. Doesn't

1027
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: want to answer your questions. He wants his teeth. Yeah,

1028
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: it's straight up. He would be like, I don't want

1029
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: to talk about this. Can you bring me some cheek? Um?

1030
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Ann. It's very real. And I

1031
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: was supposed to go again. I was supposed to go

1032
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: in April. Was supposed to go in April with my

1033
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: grouch dad and I don't know if we're going to

1034
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: go now. So that's uh, that's me. I don't know.

1035
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll go to Denver in April. Um, we can

1036
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: skip Blood Watch for the week. There's not too much

1037
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: going on. The most exciting thing was that Katie Holmes

1038
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: and Jamie Fox suspect that scientology might be fucking with

1039
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: their relationship. I do not doubt it. I didn't know.

1040
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: So the reason that they have been together for five

1041
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: years but it just came out is because she signed

1042
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: a thing that said, you know, she wasn't allowed to

1043
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: publicly date anyone for five years after the marriage, which

1044
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: is like, are you serious? That's why I broke up

1045
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: in twelve and then come five years later it's like, oh,

1046
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: Jamie and Katie have been together for some six years. Jade, Yeah, exactly.

1047
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: Kamie Um and Matt lowerd shaved his head and looks

1048
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: like comic book guy, like a tough sex preda and

1049
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: proving that he has a pitch perfect sense of tone.

1050
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: He was like, uh, yeah, I think I'm gonna try

1051
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: and become a film producer. Now it seems like you'd

1052
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: really fit in in that industry. Um, but that not

1053
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: much going on. We wanted to go out on a

1054
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: somewhat hopeful note. Miles found the story about the White Panthers. Yeah, like,

1055
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: so the Route wrote up this article called the Caucasian

1056
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: Panthers Meet the Rednecks, Armed ready and bout that anti

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00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: racist life. Because I feel like we're talking a lot

1058
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: of it. We feel like there's a lot of bad

1059
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: people out there, are bad white people out there, but

1060
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: this is a group who got we have. They're white

1061
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 1: allies and they're out here and many of you listen

1062
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: to the show, so I appreciate that, but listen. So

1063
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: this group basically came out of as you're talking about

1064
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: Fred Hampton, right, the black Panther who was basically assassinated

1065
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: by the police, and after they found him, like they

1066
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: shot up his crib and they saw him still breathing,

1067
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: and they still shot him twice. Just like make sure anyway,

1068
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: a lot of this comes out of this pattern, right that, Uh,

1069
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: when civil rights leaders begin to work with white people

1070
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: and to create a coalition, that usually sets the countdown

1071
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: time for his lassination. So like when Martin Luther King

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00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 1: began his Poor People's Campaign and bringing in white people

1073
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: in assassinated, Malcolm X gunned down after he's talking about

1074
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: bringing whites into the freedom movement because again that is

1075
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: a very dangerous thing from the view of the government.

1076
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: Is like, whoa disagranchised people. Yeah, they're like they all

1077
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: figured out that they're getting sucked over. So the main

1078
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: article focuses on this guy, and he's like, on the

1079
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: surface a very what he would call himself a redneck,

1080
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: but you know, he is a Stanford educated economist, uh,

1081
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: and he has a PhD and environmental science policy and management. Uh.

1082
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: And he's like he's just a very thoughtful person and

1083
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: he's trying to bring back this movement of the Young

1084
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: Patriots Organization, which was a group that was led by

1085
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: this guy named William Fesperman, and it was basically composed

1086
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: of disenfranchised white people from Chicago Southside and who Fred

1087
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: Hampton and brought into his Rainbow Coalition. And so a

1088
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: lot of people are sort of looking at this history

1089
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: and like and being inspired by that to really take

1090
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: on fascism, racism, uh and combat that in the way

1091
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: that they know how. And I'll do a lot of

1092
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: these guys. You look at pictures of them, you think

1093
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: these are like oath keeper like, straight up scared like.

1094
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: But then they're like, no, we are here to fucking

1095
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: bust up racism. Because we realized that that one of

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00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: the leaders of the Young Patriots organization, you know that,

1097
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: the same guy, Preacherman he believe Preacher Man was his nickname.

1098
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 1: He believed that, you know, he said racism had become

1099
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: a disease and he said, quote, I'm talking to the

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00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: white brothers decisions because I know what it's done, I

1101
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: know what it's done to me. I know it as

1102
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: people every day. It's got to stop, and we're doing it.

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00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: And this was somebody who basically wanted to organize for

1104
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: the good of the people. So anyway, there are these

1105
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: groups out there like the Redneck Revolt, which you think

1106
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: is crazy, yeah, and the YPO. These are people who

1107
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: are really taking up and I just you know, I

1108
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: feel like it's good to also realize that there are

1109
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: people who are really it's not just about like, oh,

1110
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm not racist or whatever. If you see something like that,

1111
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: you need to say something. You need to call it out,

1112
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: because the more people realize that there are people, especially

1113
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: white people, who are against it and telling other white

1114
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: people that this doesn't fly, it's it's one thing to

1115
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 1: hear a bunch of Black Lives Matter people or people

1116
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: of color trying to rail against racism, but when you

1117
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: see white people doing it as well, it's much more

1118
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 1: powerful to other people who might not have thought about

1119
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: it as a more nuanced issue. Right, A racist does

1120
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: not care about the opinions of the brown people they're

1121
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: racist against. They do care about the opinions of other

1122
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: white people. And I think it's really important. Like, if

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00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: you're from the South and there are a lot of

1124
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: great Southern comrades, there's a really great podcast called Tribally

1125
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: Workers Party that's a left podcast from the South. I

1126
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: think it's fucking awesome. Um, if you're from the South

1127
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: and you have that experience of growing up with this

1128
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: intense racism and constantly being the one person you know

1129
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: with the political opinions you have and not being able

1130
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: to share that. Think of it as like a skill.

1131
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: You know how to talk to people that are from

1132
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: where you're from. You know, you know, you know why

1133
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: people are racist, you know what they think, like brown

1134
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: people are like you know what I mean, Like, you

1135
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: have a skill that I I don't know what it's

1136
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: like to grow up in the South. I'm from California.

1137
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like to grow up in

1138
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: the South. I don't know what it's like to be

1139
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: I've never self identified. I'm not a hill billy. I'm

1140
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: not you know what I mean. But like, if you

1141
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: have that, if that's your culture, you have the ability

1142
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: to relate to people in that culture exactly have the

1143
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: common ground and and it helps you be able to

1144
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: uh to communicate with them on a level. And it's

1145
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: really hard, it's really hard to do. And it's great

1146
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: to have allies, but in these times, allies, make yourselves

1147
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: at home, man, because this is this is just it's

1148
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: just starting, and we're gonna have to really show people

1149
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: the rest of the country. There's the world at large

1150
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: that most Americans do not think like this. Man. I

1151
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: love that they're called the John Brown Gun Club. Yeah yeah,

1152
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: all right, serjunt, it has been a goddamn pleasure having

1153
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: has always. Where can people follow you? You can follow

1154
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Haysara June. You can ven mom

1155
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: at Haysar June. You can follow my podcast at Left

1156
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: Coast Pod and you can now we have a Patreon

1157
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: and you can pay five bucks a month so that

1158
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: I can buy weed yeah or just venmore so buy

1159
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: just ending me and all that. So yeah, come on,

1160
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: this is Mother of nian Cat too. Yeah, y'all oll

1161
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: her something. Don't forget Mother of yon Cat's telling you

1162
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,959
Speaker 1: don't be racist, shoot a racist? Miles. Where can people

1163
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: call you? You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram

1164
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: at Miles Up Great. You can follow me on Twitter

1165
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: at Jack under Square O'Brien. You can follow us on

1166
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're on Instagram at the Daily Zeitgeist.

1167
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page to search Daily Zeitgeist,

1168
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: and we have a website daily zeitgeist dot com where

1169
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: you can find our episodes and foot where we link

1170
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: off to the articles we used us sources. And that's

1171
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: gonna do it for today. Miles. Do you have a

1172
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: musical recommendation? Because you know, fucking President Trash want to

1173
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: talk fucking shit about Haiti. This is little Haiti the rapper.

1174
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: His tracks called the Wave because guess what, motherfucker's the

1175
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: wave is gonna come and you can't stop it. Uh.

1176
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: Posts say, don't worry about chain migration because we bringing

1177
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: everybody in here. It's a fun party, all right. That's

1178
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: gonna do it for today. Please rate and review the putt.

1179
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: Have to tell a friend about it. Uh And we

1180
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: will be back Tuesday. We're off for Mark Luther King Jr.

1181
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: Day Monday. Uh So talk to you guys tuesday. Have

1182
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: a great weekend. By low a head, turn up, cut up,

1183
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: turn up, Charlie hit me, yes you want a chair?

1184
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: Wanna chill turn up on the blush? You bust the

1185
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: way turn up? She hit this money dish. She bu'st

1186
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: the worst. She bust the way she hit this money dish.

1187
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: You bust the wish? What's the way Surety? Hit me?

1188
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: Yes you want a chair? Wanna chill up? Pull up

1189
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: the blush, bust the way bus the way she hit

1190
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 1: this money dish? She b's the wish. What's the way?

1191
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: Turn up? She hit this money dish? She b's the

1192
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: weight cash money nigger, that's the way. That's the way.

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01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't fog a lot of niggas a bunch of fat,

1194
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: bunch of fake snake. This niggas moving lack of snake.

1195
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: Lets the snake put the hollow taper I on your head.

1196
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: You lay on them out. We're busting with We're busting

1197
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: with bussing way. She smoking a lot. Don't give a ship.

1198
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: Don't give a ship with this sty We found our

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01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: bags to bring it there with the fin and switch

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01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: your list and on your lipt come got a cup

1201
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: of credit. Custious, bust the stack. What's the skip I'm

1202
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: allegic to put Niggers ain't the same. We ain't the sack.

1203
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: That's all about this money fun the fat, fuck the fat.

1204
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: Were you on your black busting way? We're busting way,

1205
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: you busting way. Shorty hit me, yes you want a chair?

1206
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: Wanna chall pull a bunna blush you bust the way.

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01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: Turn she hit this sch money that she pust the wish.

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01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: She bu's the way she hit this money dish, she

1209
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: pus the wish. What's the way, Shurety hit me, yes

1210
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: you wanna chair. Wanna chill, pull under, blush you bust

1211
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: the way bus the way she hit this money that

1212
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: she pus the wish bust the way turn she hit

1213
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: the money that she pus the weight. Early in the morning,

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: my little bit, I'm on there, Jody blowing my phone,

1215
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: tryna be in my zone. You want to us so

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01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: weak through while she's doing us funny that we're gonna

1217
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: sucking spass out while I'm throwing wild, wild wild, I

1218
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: would out big in a gudhouse, come out out of

1219
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: gonna gop out of my whim sheet. I just think both.

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01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let the there and go. While she was

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01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: away so chucking down