1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, 4 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, 5 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. I'm 7 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: gonna be doing a podcast for the next hour or so, 8 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: so nobody bother me. I just need to get into 9 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: it and talk to our guests. Any distractions would be 10 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: a difficulty for me. Speaking of our guests absolutely wonderful. 11 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: I think everyone is going to love this conversation. I 12 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: can guarantee it. It's Brandon Kyle Goodman, Brandon, Hi, Welcome to, 13 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: I said, no gifts. 14 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I'm so happy to be here. This 15 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: is so exciting. 16 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: I've just given a big promise to the listener. I've 17 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: made a guarantee. 18 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: I know. I hope we tell them. I really do 19 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: hope we tell them. That's my goal. 20 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: People are going to be showing up at my house 21 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 2: with receipts asking for their money back, and I'm going 22 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: to give it to them. 23 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: I think you said, I think that's good customer service. 24 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: Now, I run an honest business. Yeah, that's always right. 25 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Everyone loves that about me as a business owner, and 26 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: that's kind of what I stake my name on and 27 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: how I'm kind of powering my way through the world. 28 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, she's an entrepreneur. 29 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: I feel that, Brandon, How are you? 30 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: I'm good. 31 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 4: You know, I'm at home chatting with you. This is 32 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 4: great and you have a nice, very easy. 33 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: Energy, which I love. 34 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 2: Well so far, so far. 35 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: I'm expecting chaos at the end of this, yeah, guaranteed. 36 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: Where are you? Whereabouts in the Los Angeles area? 37 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: I am in Hollywood, which I'm not. I don't love. 38 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: I don't love. I hate it. 39 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: I hate it here, but that is where I am. 40 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 4: I love my apartment, but I do hate Hollywood. So 41 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 4: hopefully I won't be here much longer. 42 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: What about Hollywood is driving you out of your mind? 43 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 3: What is not driving me out of my mind? 44 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 4: It's like, I mean, it's like if you got an 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 4: apartment in Times Square, you know zan. 46 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: You know you're in deeply. 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like in Hollywood, you know what. 48 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: My block is very quiet, and I'm like right above 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: where all the craziness is. But it's just sometimes it 50 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 4: migrates to this area and it's just like it's not cute. 51 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: Where are you in Highland Park? 52 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: Oh cute, I'll see what a dream? 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 54 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: Jealous? So there's so much space behind you. Look at 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: that Highland Park? Jealous? 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: How long have you been in Hollywood? 57 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: Two years? 58 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 4: So we moved in May, and then literally a few 59 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: months later the pandemic, well I guess almost a year 60 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: later the pandemic started. 61 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: So then we were trapped little situation. 62 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: And was Hollywood your first neighborhood in La. 63 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 4: No, So when I first moved to LA, I lived 64 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: in like five different neighborhoods. I started in Larchmont, and 65 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: then I was at like West Adams, and then I 66 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: was at Glendale. 67 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: And then we were uh, like not we you know, 68 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: like by Beverly It's like we hoe Ish but like 69 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: the Melrose. 70 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: I believe maybe Beverly Wood might. 71 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: District, Yes, the Fairfax District. Yes. And then we moved 72 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: to West Hollywood proper. 73 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 4: We had the zip code, but it's not like where 74 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 4: the clubs are. And then we moved to Hollywood, same 75 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: zip code, but it's LA. It's not West Hollywood as 76 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: they reminded us when we moved. 77 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: What time period was all of the I mean, did 78 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: this fall under all this moving around? 79 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: Yes, so those first couple of places was definitely within 80 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: the first year, which was awful. And then we my 81 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: husband moved here and we settled in that Fairfax district 82 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 4: for like a month, and then we found our wee 83 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: host spot and we were there for two years maybe, 84 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 4: and then we've been here. 85 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: For two years. I think that math works. I don't. 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: It's too much moving. 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: It's a lot, and I. 88 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: Want to move. 89 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: Look at me, I'm upset. I'm gonna take it to moving. 90 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: And you feel like the geography is going to do it? 91 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, I feel like I'll find my perfect 92 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: place and then and then everything will be perfect. 93 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: Right, no problems from there on. 94 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: I should find the right apartment. 95 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: But what else has been going on in your life? 96 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: What else? 97 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: You know? 98 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: I'm writing on a show. So I just went back 99 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: to work full time, which man, oh man, working what's 100 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: that about? What's jobs about? That's just like crazy? 101 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 4: So it's great, you know, staring at a screen all 102 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: day and I wish I had more exciting things. But 103 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: I feel like the exciting things that are happening. I 104 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: don't this podcast. I feel like it's not s A 105 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 4: PG thirteen, Right, you know. 106 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: You can talk about whatever you want. The door is open. 107 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: For whatever reason, Apple has rated this an explicit podcast, 108 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: and I feel like, where did that come from? 109 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 3: We're not delivering the explicity explicitness I can. 110 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: So that's what's exciting going on in your life? Just 111 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: explicit behavior. 112 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 4: Explicit behavior? Yes, good, you can't talk about on a podcast. 113 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: That's what's exciting in my line. 114 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good question, like what is the listener? 115 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: What explicit behavior does the listener tolerate? And it's impossible 116 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: to tell. 117 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: It's what I'm excited about is that people are probably 118 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 4: guessing what it is, and it's probably all sorts of 119 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: things are like based off of his voice, Like what 120 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 4: explicit behavior could he be partaking at? 121 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 3: You'll never know. 122 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: It's none of your business, listener. It's you know, that 123 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: is just something that we're not going to reveal to 124 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: you maybe later on in this podcast. Yeah, keep you listening. 125 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 2: You've got to keep people. You've got to just bait people. 126 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: And you're like you've got the caret dangling from the 127 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: string and you're just trying to pull them through an 128 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: entire episode of. 129 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: The podcast planting these seeds. And maybe we'll pay it off. 130 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe not. 131 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 3: We don't know, we'll find out. I guess. 132 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: Here's a question for you. Have you ever bought an 133 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: accent chair? 134 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 4: I have dreams of buying an accent share, but I 135 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 4: feel like an accent chair requires a certain amount of money, 136 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 4: you know, like you got to be making a lot, 137 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 4: a certain amount of I need to be like, oh, yeah, 138 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get an accent chair. 139 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: I need chairs still, like I need useful chairs. So no, 140 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: I've not have you. 141 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: I've recently found myself in a position where I need 142 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: a chair. 143 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: You need a chair. 144 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: I've never done this before, okay, and it is excruciating. 145 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: It's painful. 146 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: There's so much money. 147 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: Need just one chair. It's so much money. The accent 148 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: chairs are. 149 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: And for nothing. They're a decoration. 150 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: No one even sits, isn't it because it's cost so 151 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: much money? Please do not sit in that? What are 152 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: you doing? Get off that? 153 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have in my living room there's enough space 154 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: for a chair or a lounge chair. I'm learning so much, 155 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: but sure, you start looking at these things. They're extremely 156 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: expensive and you want to pick the right one. Yes, 157 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: I it's going to be months before I settle on one. 158 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: Oh, it takes a long time. 159 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: You're sitting here in front of a I mentioned this 160 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: before we began recording a wall fully decorated. 161 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: With art, absolutely, but the trick has a majority of 162 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: them are photos that I printed out at CBS, and 163 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: then I went to Michael's and I got a bunch 164 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 4: of frames. Some of them are are really nice frames, 165 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: but a couple of them or most of them are 166 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: just from Michaels. 167 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: So you could have me fooled. 168 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: I know, that's the plan. I like to fool people. 169 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: It was the was the nailing them into the like 170 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: hanging them on the wall stressful. 171 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: Here's the thing about me, organization really zends me out. 172 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: So for other people, very stressful, but for me, a treat, 173 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: a delight, a joy. 174 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: I looked forward to it, couldn't wait. 175 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: They actually were all on another wall and I was like, 176 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 4: I don't like it there, So I took them all 177 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 4: down and did them on a different wall. 178 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: And then do you have to paint the wall? 179 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: We could talk about that later, I mean some point, 180 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: some point, I'm sure at some point, i'll have to. 181 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: But I just covered it with a bigger art piece, 182 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: so that's okay. 183 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: Perfect. That stresses me out. Hanging art is I've been 184 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: at this place for a year and only in the 185 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: last two months if we hung any any type. 186 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: Of art anything. Yeah, and even that, I'm. 187 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: Still like, I'm recovering from. I don't know. It's a 188 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: lot to do it. 189 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 4: Well, you're like, like, it's a reflection of you when 190 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: people come over, and you're like, well, what they think 191 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: about me is as good enough? 192 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: Well they like it, you know. There's a lot of stress, 193 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 3: which is but. 194 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: A blank wall is the worst reflection. It's so scary 195 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: looking it is. 196 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: Whenever I see a blank wall, I do get concerned. 197 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 3: But that's La. 198 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 4: La loves a blank wall, whereas I feel like New 199 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: York loves you know, they fill their apartments with things. 200 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: And I'm a New Yorker at heart, so well not 201 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 4: at heart, I am a New Yorker, So. 202 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: That's very true. I think that is kind of the 203 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: unspoken thing, the one final difference between La and New 204 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: York that no one has talked about yet. 205 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 3: And we're gonna do here, We're gonna break it here. 206 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: That just broke the story. People are going to the 207 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: printing presses. We've found one final difference between these cities, 208 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: something that new transplants from either city can talk about. 209 00:09:58,720 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: It's what's being hung on the wall. 210 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 3: Yes. 211 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely, New York has a nice, busy wall. Rooms are 212 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: full and feel just kind of bountiful. 213 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: Yes. La is minimalist. 214 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 4: She doesn't want she doesn't. I think she wants, you know, 215 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: she wants space between her photos. And I'm like, what's 216 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: going on there? 217 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: Babes? 218 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, lord, oh lord? Do you drive? 219 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: I do? Do you? Oh? Yeah, I learned to drive 220 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: to move here. 221 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: Did you learn in New York or in LA? 222 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: I learned in New York and I'm grateful for that. 223 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: So this you've only learned to drive in the last 224 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: few years. 225 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: I've only been driving for six years. Yeah, I've been 226 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: in LA for six years. 227 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: Do you consider yourself a good driver? 228 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: A fabulous driver? Honey? 229 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: Really? 230 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: Yes, I think I'm great. 231 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: What does your husband think? 232 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: He thinks I'm good. 233 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: Too, He's he's a faster driver than me. I'm very cautious. 234 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 4: And because i'm I think in New York, when you 235 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: grew up taking yellow cabs, you know what bad driving is. Yeah, oh, 236 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: so like I understand how bad driving looks, but I 237 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: also understand how to get you there fast too, So like, listen, 238 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: I can get you places much faster than you should 239 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: get there safely. 240 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: I'm so envious because I'll get you there slowly and 241 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: your life will be at risk the entire time, and 242 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: it's getting worse. It's so frightening. So I'm very jealous. 243 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: So you had a kind of you paid a professional 244 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: to teach you how to drive. 245 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 4: I okay, yes, So when I was in New York, 246 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 4: I forget I was teaching. I used to be a 247 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: fitness instructor, and I was teaching classes in the Hamptons. 248 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: It's so bougie. I couldn't afford anything in the Hamptons. 249 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 4: By the way, if you go to the Hamptons, I 250 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 4: mean they gave us, like I think they gave us 251 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: like one hundred dollars a day or something like that, 252 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: which you think would be like, oh you're rolling, honey, 253 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: not at all. That's breakfast, Like the Hamptons is fucking stupid. Literally, 254 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: we would actually all pool our money together as instructors 255 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 4: so that we could survive. 256 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: But while I was there. 257 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 4: I was watching an episode of Real House Lies of 258 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 4: New York and Ramona's daughter was learning how to drive, 259 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: and they advertised the school, and that's the school I 260 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 4: went to. 261 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 3: I called them. 262 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, that's a driving school. If Ramona's 263 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: daughter is learning, my god, I must as well. And 264 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 4: they taught me and I failed the first time, how badly? 265 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: H to the point where the the fucking h what 266 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 4: do they call him? The test person who had to 267 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: grade me? Whatever that name is? 268 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: Uh? 269 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: She said what do you do? I said, I'm an actor. 270 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 4: She's like, well, I'm gonna tell people when I see 271 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 4: you in a movie that that man can't drive. And 272 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: I was like, oh wow, wow. She's like, oh my 273 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 4: good luck in LA. But I'm telling people that he 274 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 4: couldn't drive. 275 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: I was like, wow, shattered, shattered. 276 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: What were you doing? That was so horrible? 277 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: I think where I really fucked up was you know, 278 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 4: like how you have to make that well I don't 279 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 4: know what it's called, but like when you're gonna make 280 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: a laugh at the light, but you have to wait 281 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 4: for all the cars to go and then you make 282 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 4: it sure yellow. I did not know how to do that. 283 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: I was like cars were coming. 284 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: I was like, now do we go down? 285 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: And she was Luckily, you know, she has her own 286 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 4: brakes and she like pressed on the brakes. 287 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 3: Were really like, no, what are you a full car coming? 288 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: I mean, that is the scariest part of an intersection. 289 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: It's kind of just been You're kind of floating there 290 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: in space until you've gott an opportunity. 291 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: Waiting for your chance to go. And I just didn't 292 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: know how to how to do that. But then I 293 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: did it a second time and here we are driving. 294 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: For six years. 295 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: So with this, uh, circling back to this group of 296 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: fitness instructors, what you were like a pod of instructors 297 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: that were floating around various bougie neighborhoods. What how does 298 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: this work? 299 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: Yes, so I used to work in specifically in New York. 300 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 4: Does Ellie have this yeah, boutique fitness right, it's like 301 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 4: like a Barrie's boot camp. 302 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: Or I worked at Flywheel. These are like boutique fitness student. 303 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 4: So I worked for Flywheel fly Bar, but they also 304 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 4: had a studio in the Hamptons, and so what they 305 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 4: would do is that it was only open for the summer, 306 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 4: so they would ship their instructors from the city to 307 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 4: the Hamptons for like several days at a time, and 308 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: so you would go there for like a week or 309 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: two weeks, and you would live in an instructor house. 310 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: And then a reality show. 311 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 4: Literally, I think they've probably done this and it's not interesting. 312 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: Well, that's why I'm not a reality producer. I didn't 313 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: ask you here to criticize my reality show ideas. 314 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: Brandon, what kind of reality show do you like? 315 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: The only Okay, so, the only real reality show that 316 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: I've watched consistently is very recent Real Housewives of Salt 317 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: Lake City, and that's because I'm from Utah. 318 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 319 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: Do you watch it? 320 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I love it. 321 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: How are you feeling about the new season? 322 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 4: So the first season, you know, everyone's first season and 323 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: the Housewives except if you go like way back to 324 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: like New York and Atlanta, which I'm sure don't age well. 325 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: But if you like, the first season's rough because they're 326 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: all trying too hard. So we're just establishing this second 327 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: season though, my god, it is just I mean, just 328 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: the opening alone, I was like, these people a fucking oscar. 329 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: I know it's on a movie, but fuck, like they 330 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: deserve it. An honorary Oscar Shit so good? 331 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: How are you feel? 332 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: Very high drama from moment one? 333 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: From moment one. 334 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: Because all of our housewives are going to jail, and 335 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: it's just I shouldn't find it delicious to watch, but 336 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: it's very entertaining. 337 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: If all of these women end up in the same prison. 338 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: I mean, we can just end earth. That will be 339 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: the final act of humanity. That would the most incredible 340 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: thing that ever happened. 341 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: And we could do another reality show, right. 342 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: No, I really love the show. I like, I had 343 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: never gotten into housewives, and I was like, if one 344 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: of them is going to do it for me, this 345 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: will be it. Yes, and it's worked very well. 346 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: You should also try Atlanta. 347 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: I would now that I'm like kind of into the 348 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: rhythm of the show and have kind of like let 349 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: the artifice and the weird phoniness of reality kind of 350 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: wash over me. Yes, I think I'm ready to unlock 351 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: some new doors. 352 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: Atlanta and Potomac are really they deliver? They really do deliver. 353 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: Are they like also very high drama? 354 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: Oh? Of course the highness. If it's not high drama, 355 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: what are we doing here? So? 356 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: Should I start with Atlanta? Then? 357 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 4: I think so I actually one of my friends loved 358 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 4: Beverly Hills and she never watched Atlanta, and she I 359 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 4: think finished Atlanta in like a matter of like two weeks. 360 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 4: I think Atlanta well because also, like Atlanta has a 361 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: lot of seasons, and I think Atlanta was like, look 362 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: at me, It's like I could do a Ted talk 363 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: on Housewives. 364 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: So excited. 365 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 4: I think it was like the third franchise, so they've 366 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: been around for a minute. So what's kind of fun 367 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: is if you start like season one, like the fashions 368 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 4: and the faces are different, Honey, the faces do not 369 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: look how they look today. So watching that journey, that 370 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 4: evolution and all of them deny the work, but you're like. 371 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: Uh, evidence, I see hours and hours of footage. 372 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 373 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: I've tried Beverly Hills a couple of times, and that's 374 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: like where I wasn't able to get into it. So 375 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: maybe it's time for another French. 376 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 4: Beverly Hills is hard. I'm into it now. Beverly Hills 377 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 4: was hard, and I think it's hard. Let's just say 378 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: it because it's just like rich white women and you're like, 379 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 4: I don't. 380 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: Care about your problems. 381 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 4: But eventually I think they find the right rhythm and 382 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 4: it works, and this season is especially very good. 383 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll see. Yeah, I started watching Survivor recently. 384 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: I'm twenty years late. Oh my god, what having a 385 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: wonderful time. Wow, I feel like a like an eighty 386 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: year old man being like, have you seen Sururvivor? 387 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 4: I haven't watched Survivors since season one, which we were 388 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 4: in diapers. 389 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: No, we were, certainly. I mean it was a very 390 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: long time ago. That show has been going forever. 391 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: Are you starting from the beginning or you just started, Like. 392 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: There were like two seasons on Netflix that a friend 393 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: recommended one of them, so we watched that. It's like 394 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 2: a later maybe twenty fourteen. Okay, powered through that one, 395 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: loved it, and now went back to season two, which 396 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: feels like like watching PBS. Like the way the show 397 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: has evolved is like so wild. I mean, it's still 398 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 2: a game show or whatever. But season two it's like not, 399 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: you know, it's not the heightened reality we're all. 400 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 3: How gripping it was back in the day because we 401 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: knew no different at right. 402 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: Well, and in some ways it's good where it's like, oh, 403 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: it's not so much about the game it's more about 404 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: people just like hating camping for forty five days. 405 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 3: I hate camping for an hour. 406 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: Somebody burns their hands off. Oh no, that guy falls 407 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: into a fire and you like you see footage of 408 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: his hand. It's like burnt. It's brutal. 409 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 3: No, that's my hell. The river is literally my hell. 410 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: Like that like to me, if like if hell is real, 411 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: like that's where I would go to fucking sub riv. 412 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: You hate to camp, hate it. 413 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 4: I could write a whole dissertation about how much I 414 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 4: hate it. 415 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: Now. 416 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 4: In my defense, one, I'm from New York, who can 417 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 4: like New Yorkers don't fucking camp. But two, I just 418 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: did an allergy test, you know, like when they like 419 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 4: prick your back with all the stuff. And at the 420 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: end of that, because I'm having a lot of like 421 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 4: allergy stuff, and at the end of that, my allergists 422 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 4: apologized because she was like, you're allergic to everything, like 423 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: all these different types. 424 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: Of trees and grass and dust and knowledge. 425 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 4: She said, don't hike before ten a m stop hiking 426 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: by twelve. 427 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: It's a it's a whole thing. 428 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 4: So I think, in my defense, camping or any kind 429 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: of like nature stuff is literally miserable. 430 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 3: On my body. And it's not just me being bougie 431 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 3: a little bit y bogie. 432 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: But so, like, what extent have you camped? 433 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 4: You know, like in middle school we used to go 434 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 4: to camps, like you know, summer camps for sure, But 435 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 4: you're talking about like. 436 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 3: Real grown camping. Uh, I won't. I never never appealed 437 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 3: to me. 438 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: So I did. 439 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: Camp and that's outside and that's enough for me. 440 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 4: The cabins were gross to me, you know, like you 441 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: want me to move to a tent if I can't 442 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 4: handle a. 443 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: Cab Could I encourage you to sleep on dirt? 444 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Yo? 445 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 4: If you can't a bed in a cabin is miserable? 446 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 4: How will I do inside of a piece of fabric 447 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: with on the floor? 448 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 3: No, not me. 449 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: Could I offer you an opportunity to have no running 450 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: water or toilets? 451 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 3: Sounds awful? 452 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 4: When people tell me they find themselves out there, I'm like, ah, 453 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 4: really wow, sounds wow? 454 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: Good for you? 455 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I I like to imagine I love camping, 456 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 2: but I haven't been in a decade. I haven't. I 457 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: actually I can't speak to it at this point. Why 458 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: am I sitting here trying to encourage someone else? 459 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: To camp. My husband loves that. 460 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: Does that cause trouble between you two? Is like, why 461 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: don't you come camping with me? 462 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 4: It did in the beginning, and then he learned very 463 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: quickly that that was a battle he was going to lose. 464 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: So he gave up on it and we're both happier 465 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: for it. 466 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: You know, That's the secret. Sometimes there are things that 467 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: are just not another person's cup of tea. 468 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 4: Leave it alone, yeah, because if you drag them, they're 469 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 4: going to be miserable. It's going to ruin your time. 470 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: Right, So he's going camping on his own. 471 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 4: Yes, or with friends who like to camp, because I 472 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 4: don't know, I feel like we're kindred spirit. I have 473 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 4: a face where if I'm upset, it just I don't 474 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: know how to fake that. 475 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: It's just there. 476 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: So I will make you feel uncomfortable and you're like, wow, 477 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 4: he's mad. 478 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 2: Why did we bring bread? Okay? Look, speaking about things 479 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: that are kind of uncomfortable and inconvenient, yea unsettling. I 480 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: asked you on this podcast recently, and I was so 481 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: excited Brandon's going to be on the podcast. We'll have 482 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 2: a nice time, we'll get to know each other, we'll 483 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: move on with our lives and hopefully never see each 484 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: other again. That was the place, just have that one 485 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 2: golden moment. And so, you know, we scheduled everything. We 486 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: were getting ready and the podcast is called I said 487 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: No Gifts, Yes, very clear title. It's all over the internet, 488 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: it was people are screaming up from the rooftops. It's 489 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: in all of our emails. I have plenty of you know, 490 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: I've got documents indicating that you're familiar. I'm familiar. 491 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you sent me a contract too that 492 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 3: I've designed that said. 493 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, right, there could be some legal action here. 494 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: I signed it in blood too. It was really crazy. 495 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: I thought that was a little dramatic. 496 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 3: I go, but you know, I like the dramas. 497 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: We're in the middle of a pandemic. I was thinking, oh, 498 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: this material here. 499 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: A story. 500 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: Look, I was a little surprised when I opened the 501 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: door earlier and it appeared there was something from me, 502 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 2: not from me, for you, for me. The operating here 503 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: is for me from Brandon. 504 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, Richard, I'm a rebel. You know, I don't like authority, So. 505 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: You're kind of a James Dean. 506 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. 507 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, look, you know everyone has their brand and 508 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 2: so I mean, I guess let's just get it out 509 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: in the open here. Is this a gift for me? 510 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: It is a gift for you. 511 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you told me not to bring one, and 512 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 4: you know, I was like, fuck it, it's opposite day. 513 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 3: So I'm going to sent you. 514 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 2: Well, do you want me to it's kind of in 515 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: this black bag here. You want me to open it 516 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 2: here on the podcast. 517 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,239 Speaker 4: I'd love you too, because there's something I love more 518 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 4: than people opening gifts that I've given them in front 519 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: of me. It's my I like to stare at them 520 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 4: in their eyes as they do that. 521 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: Okay, let's get some tissue near the microphone. 522 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 3: Yes, really, let the people feel. Yeah, yeah, just crinkle crinkle. 523 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: Oh wait, you've sent me Vasiline body bomb, Yes, very much. So, 524 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: I'm I'm not familiar with a full body bomb. I'm 525 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: familiar with a bomb. I'm familiar with the obvious, with 526 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: the brand Vaciline. 527 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely, this is. 528 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: A jelly stick. Is this something a new product on 529 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: the market? Tell me just get into it here. 530 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 4: Well, I just want to point out that I did 531 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 4: give you the brand name Vaciline, So this is high quality. 532 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 533 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 4: I didn't get you like the CBS version. I got 534 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 4: you the Vasolene body Bomb. For people who don't know 535 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: it comes in like it looks like an oversized glue stick. Yes, 536 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 4: you know, jelly is a really it throws you off 537 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: a little bit because you think it's going to be 538 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 4: soft or like a kind of like a lotion. 539 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: It's not. 540 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 4: It's still the same like thick. It's like a chapstick. 541 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: It's a Vacillaine chapstick, but instead of you can put 542 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 4: it on your lips if you want. It's it looks 543 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 4: weird because it's oversized. As I said, I. 544 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: Would love to pull one of these out of my 545 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: bag in the grocery store and just suddenly rub it. 546 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's a really large chapstick. 547 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: Sorry, this is you know something that is I put 548 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 4: on my face in the morning. I rub it on 549 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 4: my face to get my moisture in. You could put 550 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 4: it on your hands, anyone in your body. For me, 551 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 4: it's the face. It's the first thing I do when 552 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 4: I wake up because what I do is I work out, 553 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 4: so I don't want to do a whole washing my 554 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: face moisture. But I do want to give my face 555 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: some moisture because I've been sleeping right body bomb right 556 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 4: there on the face, rub her in and now she's glowing, 557 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 4: and then she goes to do her workout. And in 558 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 4: the day, if you get dry and you don't want 559 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 4: to use your expensive moisturizer, then you fucking pull out 560 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 4: that little glue stick vasiline and rub her wherever you 561 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: need to. 562 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: How long? How long has this product been in your life? 563 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: This product has been my life for uh. I think 564 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 4: the pandemic, the length of the pandemic, like. 565 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: It's a recent a year and a half. 566 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 3: Vasoline I've known since childhood. 567 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: Obviously, you know, we all, I mean, for whatever reason, 568 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: vasoline has just kind of it's one of these products 569 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: we all know from birth. 570 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: We do. 571 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 4: And when I was twenty, a friend of mine in 572 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 4: college the most sickening skin you've ever seen black women, 573 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: just gorgeous, gorgeous sickening. 574 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 3: And I was like, what do you use? She said, vasileine. 575 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: That's it, just vascilae, just vacile She watched the faces. Vaciline. 576 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 4: I said, unreal, not true, because here we are all 577 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 4: using like gold and silver and all these infused products. 578 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: It's rose serums and she's like just. 579 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 4: Basoline and fourteen years later here I am using, Oh, 580 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: it's full circle. 581 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: Wow, this is incredible. So but you do say you 582 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 2: wake up and put it on. It's a pre workout, 583 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: so I assume there's some showering and everything afterwards, and 584 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: then what are you putting vaseline back on? Or is 585 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 2: there a fancy product? 586 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 4: There's a fancier product after after the workout, you know, 587 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 4: but we use them sparingly because. 588 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: They're fancy, and then you know, we can't just like 589 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: keep buying them. 590 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: So like, what what are we talking about here? 591 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 3: I can't even pronounce them, that's the thing. It's like, 592 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: is it a. 593 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 4: VNA, there's a there's a there's one that's in French. 594 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 4: It's in the I cream. It's very tiny and I'm 595 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 4: not going to tell you how much it costs or 596 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 4: what it is because I don't wan people to judge me. 597 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 4: I don't go camping, so you understand the product that's speed. 598 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 4: My money on products that's going have gone towards a tent, 599 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: and I prefer to spend it on my I creams 600 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 4: and my my moisturizer instead of the tents. 601 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: So so have you kind of slowly built up this 602 00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: moisturizing routine over the years or based on recommendation or 603 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: what do you do well? 604 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 4: What happened was last summer I discovered Instagram stories and 605 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 4: I said, wow, look at this face. 606 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: It's it's it needs to help. 607 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: I can't ave you have great skin, thank. 608 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: You because of the products. Honey. 609 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: I cannot imagine your skin was in such horrible condition 610 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: a year ago. 611 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 4: It was the skin was fine, you know, because black 612 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 4: don't crack is it was fine. But I thought we 613 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 4: can do better. So I reached out to a friend 614 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: of mine who is a makeup artist and so good 615 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 4: at skin like that is literally what she does. She 616 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: develops routines, and I sent her photos of myself and 617 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 4: then she sent back a long regimen and introduced all 618 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 4: these new products. Kept some of my same products, but 619 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 4: then introduced some new stuff and my god, vasoline Bomb 620 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 4: body Bomb was one of them. She said, whenever you 621 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 4: feel dry, I just apply this, and I was like, work. 622 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: That's so. At least one thing is within everyone's budget. Yes, 623 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: the vasoline right, yes, yeah. I had a makeup artists 624 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: recommend a bunch of things a year and a half 625 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: ago or so, and I looked them up online, like 626 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: what is like this person must be in serious financial trouble. 627 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: These things cost hundreds of dollars. What are we talking about? 628 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: Yes, it's yeah, I don't short circuiting. Yeah, trying to 629 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: justify this to to the people. 630 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot, but it is an investment. 631 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: It is an investment. 632 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: And also I'll say, like, no, not all the products 633 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: are that crazy. Like I you know, I still use 634 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 4: my Veno lotion. That's why I swear by. 635 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: God bless I. From moment one of this podcast, I've 636 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: been talking about a vino, and my first guest harassed 637 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: me NonStop about a vino, and so I'm just going 638 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: to keep screaming it from the rooftop. Absolutely, I think 639 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: it's great. I think it's great, just very mild. 640 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: It's wonderful. I love Avina. I've been using it for years. 641 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: I just had a box of four show up yesterday. 642 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: It's my dream, this is my dream. I'm never sure 643 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 4: with anyone. I'm sharing it with you. My dream is 644 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 4: to replace Jennifer ana Set. 645 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you absolutely. 646 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: That's the face of Vena. I say, you know, there's 647 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 4: a new white woman in town and she's black and 648 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 4: it's me. 649 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: How do this podcast is the beginning of that dream? Jen, 650 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: get out of the way. 651 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: Watch your back. 652 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 4: I also want the smart water deal too, Like I'm 653 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 4: coming for you, Jennifer Annason. 654 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: Just know that you kind of are the Jennifer Anison 655 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: of this podcast. I'll say, everyone loves you. You're kind 656 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: of and every woman. 657 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 4: That's what everyone's saying at home. They're like, ooh, I 658 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 4: love him. He's the Jennifer anistad. 659 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely Jennifer Annas. And she's she seems like a decent egg. 660 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, she seems nice and sweet. 661 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't seem like a trouble maker. 662 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: Right, I've never seen her in trouble to see her 663 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: collecting these checks. 664 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: Honestly, I heard from someone, and this could be untrue, 665 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: that her house has no walls. Do we believe that. 666 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: Her house has no walls? How do you do that? 667 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: There has been maybe just. 668 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: Beams, maybe it's just columns and beams, But that to me, 669 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: that just sounds like a bug's paradise. 670 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: I wow, very modern. 671 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 2: Right, I mean to the point that you are just 672 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: constantly being And maybe she also has excellent, like Mosquito 673 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: security exactly. But as maybe the most famous woman in 674 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: the world not having any walls. 675 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: She's so rich she doesn't need walls. I'm confused, she's 676 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: transcended walls walls. 677 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: She's just slathering a Veno on and kind of slipping 678 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: and sliding around this wallless home. Look, I'm just repeating 679 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: an unsubstantiated rumor that I heard from someone I can't 680 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: even remember. I may have just had a dream about this. 681 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 3: And these are our favorite rumors. 682 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 4: Our favorite rumors are the ones we don't rememb where 683 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: they came from. 684 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: Those are the best. 685 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: How do we get Jen on this podcast to answer 686 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: this burning question. 687 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 3: We have to ask? Were like she saw that at 688 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: Veno check she was like, you know what, I want 689 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: a house where I waltz. I love that. 690 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: I love that for Maybe she's kind of a meet 691 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: Maybe this is where I'm in kind of I relate 692 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: to Jen. She doesn't like hanging art. She's like, get 693 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: rid of the mills. I can't think about the stress 694 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: of putting up art. Just get rid of the walls. 695 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: And she's like, I don't want blank walls either, So 696 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: you know, solution no als, Yes. 697 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, nature will be my art and I will just 698 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's the only thing I can think 699 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: of at this point. When you're Jenniferanison, you can kind 700 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: of do whatever you want. I think, so what we 701 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: need to do is for you to replace her as 702 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 2: the Vino spokesperson, the smart Water spokesperson. She'll have kind 703 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: of a fall from Grace. 704 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 4: I can also do the morning show, like if you 705 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 4: know REESEA. This one's cool about it, Like, I'm happy 706 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 4: to step in. I mean, you know, in the nineties, 707 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 4: they replace the AMTHEBS, they replace the Harriet Winslows. 708 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: I'm happy they replaced Jenniferanson. 709 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: Season season three, Brandon Goodman as Jennifer En. I look, 710 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: all of these feel like totally feasible dreams, and I'm 711 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: kind of a dream maker. 712 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 4: I really sense that. As soon as I logged on, 713 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 4: I was like, dream maker. 714 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: I look at myself as a genie type, and so 715 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: I just bring a guest on the podcast and say 716 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: give me your wishes. 717 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 3: And we manifest it. Right. Yeah, I sense that. 718 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: This podcast is essentially kind of just a vision board 719 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: for the guest. And so you've thrown the penny in 720 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: the well and Jen Andison, You're gonna just look over 721 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: your shoulder NonStop. 722 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: Watch out girl. 723 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: I'm so glad to you know this moisturizing. I do 724 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: like a new moisturizing experiment. Yeah, and this one especially 725 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: pre like early morning, I have to go to the 726 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: gym or something. 727 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely. And as the winter's coming, the skin drives a 728 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 4: lot more often. I know we're in La so it 729 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,239 Speaker 4: doesn't get as cold, but you know, LA mornings can 730 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 4: be really cold in the winter. 731 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we get to the late fort not late forties, 732 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: high forties. 733 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: Hy high forties. Yeah, which is cold. 734 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 2: It feels cold to me. I mean, I know New. 735 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: York's are like shut the fuck some many of these 736 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 4: clos is like yo, shut the fuck up last night of. 737 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: His seventy two degrees and I said, I have to 738 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 2: take a jacket with me. And I wore the jacket 739 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 2: the whole time. 740 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 4: Yes, the other day I was going out to dinner, 741 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 4: looked at the low it said sixty five. I said, no, no, no, 742 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 4: dunim jacket immediately, no, no, no, no, no, sixty five freezing. 743 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 2: We're looking for these jacket wearing opportunities. Everyone loves to 744 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: have a jacket on and we've been deprived for months. Yeah, 745 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: I'll take the excuse. And now you know, I don't know, 746 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: I don't know where am I going with this. I 747 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 2: was going to try to relate it to vasily, you know, but. 748 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: What it's okay, we're here, listen. 749 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 4: I think the listeners are here with us, and they 750 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 4: understand that we love layers. 751 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 3: You know, that's really where. 752 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: Saying everyone loves a layer, I mean summer months, god 753 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: bless them. 754 00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: But love a craptop. 755 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: I've never worn a crop top. I'm only recently really 756 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 2: getting comfortable wearing shorts. Okay, so you know, maybe that's 757 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: next summer for me. Next summer crop tops, crop tops. 758 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 4: That's what I'll send you next time you tell me 759 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 4: I have to send you a gift as a crop top. 760 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: We're going to book you for next week's episode as well. 761 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna kind of drag you into a never 762 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: ending gift giving spiral. Once you get the a Veno deal, 763 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 2: I am going to ask you back on and I 764 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 2: want the gift to be a car, So just keep 765 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: that in mind. 766 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 4: For you'll keep that in mind. I will keep that 767 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 4: in mind. I'll keep pushing the date that I have 768 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 4: to come back next week for the next week, for sure. 769 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 4: Next week. 770 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: I was at a car dealership yesterday and it was 771 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: the most unbelievably stressful experience of maybe the last year 772 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 2: for me. 773 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 3: Cars are stressful when you have to get that are 774 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 3: you are you buying? What's going on the least on? 775 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: My car is almost up and so like and go. 776 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: But there's a car shortage, which is just a car 777 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: short edge. I am telling you, it's unlike anything I've 778 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 2: ever seen. Well, wow, this is I've never had a 779 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 2: car salesman be like, Okay, you can just leave because 780 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 2: like they just tell you the price basically, and they're like, 781 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: we're not budgeting. 782 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 3: We're not we're not doing anything. 783 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 2: You see the two cars we have in a lot, 784 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: and so take your pick. We'll charge you six times 785 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: as much as it's worth. So we're extending the lease. 786 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 3: What perfect? 787 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 2: Wasn't it familiar that this was even an option? 788 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 3: Yes? 789 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 4: I did it for my first car because I wasn't 790 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: ready to get or I wasn't financially ready to get 791 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 4: in a second car. 792 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 3: So I extended my lease on that car. I think 793 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 3: for like, I think six months or something. 794 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: Six months. I think that's kind of the minimum or 795 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: the usual. 796 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but so yeah, which is great. It gives you 797 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 3: a little more time so you don't have to feel 798 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 3: rushed or forced into anything. 799 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I called I'm also becoming familiar with a car broker. 800 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: Have you ever used a car broker? 801 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 3: Wait, a car broker, somebody tell me this. 802 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 4: They will go to like the different places haggle for you, 803 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 4: and like it's. 804 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: It's like, I called this guy. I thought I hit 805 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 2: you know. I was like, I'm going to go to 806 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 2: the dealership learn my lesson. Almost immediately came home, called 807 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: the guy that the friend recommended. He was so straightforward. 808 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 2: So he's like, do not go to a dealership. I 809 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 2: also can't help you right now. You have to extend 810 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: your lease call me in six months. So I was like, okay, wow, 811 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: that feels already like a nice positive step forward. Yeah, 812 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: I'm I mean, god willing, I'll never return to a 813 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 2: car dealership. Yeah, they don't even charge you anything. The 814 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 2: car broker does all of this and then they I 815 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: don't know how it works. 816 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll take a percentage somehow. 817 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 2: Do they take it from the dealer or something? Oh wow, 818 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 2: So you like as a person. They just do this 819 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 2: for you. 820 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 821 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: I guess they must make decent money doing it. Yes, 822 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 2: And because that to me sounds like the worst job 823 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: in the world. I would rather scrape gum off of floors. 824 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 3: But absolutely I would hate to go from dealership to 825 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 3: dealership trying out cars. But some people really love cars. 826 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 2: And some people, I think, like our they love the negotiating, 827 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: the game of it. That's not me. I can't negotiate. 828 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 3: I'm terrible at it. This is you know what what 829 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 3: agents and things are for. Because I'm like I will, 830 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 3: I'll fight. 831 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 2: I need a bit of a psycho to just kind 832 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 2: of go for it. I'm not going to do it, 833 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 2: so car broker will see in six months. I wish 834 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 2: there was a car broker for accent chairs now that 835 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it. 836 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 3: Ah, that would be great. I think they're called interior designers, 837 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: and they're very pricing. 838 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: They're so expensive. That's a Jenna Aniston budget. 839 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 3: Yes. 840 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 4: Now, I'm sure her house within the walls plenty of 841 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 4: accent chairs, right, you have to replace the walls with something. 842 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 2: She just has a bonfire, constantly roaring. It's just accent 843 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 2: chairs just piled on top of each other keeps her warm. 844 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 4: She must you know, accent chairs too, because we tried 845 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 4: to get one, and because you want to get like 846 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 4: customized a little bit, and it's you gotta wait for 847 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 4: the fab racing and it's so much money. 848 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 2: It's like, it's like having a baby. 849 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 3: It's truly. 850 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 2: I probably would have an easier time having a baby. 851 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,959 Speaker 4: Some new mother is like, it is not like having 852 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 4: a baby, but for us, yes, it feels like that. 853 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: It's as close as I'm going to get. Oh, okay, Brandon, 854 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: it's time to play a game. 855 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I love a game. 856 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: Do you want to play a game called Gift or 857 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: a Curse or a game called Gift Master. I'll tell 858 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 2: you how it works once we begin playing. 859 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 3: Of course, yeah it scares me, so Gift to a. 860 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 2: Curse Okay, I need a number between one and ten seven. Okay, 861 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 2: I have to do some light calculating, so I have 862 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 2: to go get the game pieces. While I'm doing this, 863 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 2: you can promote something. You can recommend something, you can 864 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: suggest a favorite type of food. Whatever you want to do. 865 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 2: I'll be right back. 866 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 4: Okay, what shall I promote? Well, if you follow me 867 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 4: at Brandon Cale Goodman. Every Monday, I do something called 868 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 4: Messy Mondays, which is where people this is actually explicit behavior. 869 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 4: People send me their messiest moments of the week and 870 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 4: I talk about it and give my reactions and my advice. 871 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 4: We talk about sexual things, like I think last week 872 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 4: we talking about how to douche? 873 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 3: Can I say that on the douche friend doush? 874 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 2: You don't have the tiptoe around this. We're all adults. 875 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 3: We're all adults. We talked about rim Josh. 876 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: Well, maybe there's a huge child audience that I don't 877 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: know about, but. 878 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 4: Who knows a very youthful audience that loves talking about gifts. 879 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 4: We uh did ask eating last week, and we did 880 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 4: dealing with uncircumcised penises the week before. It's a lot 881 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 4: of fun so on Mondays, Messy Monday's Branda Cogan Man. 882 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a great promotion. 883 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 3: That's a promotion. 884 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like your Instagram stories are extremely educational, right, 885 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 2: and you just confront things that people need to talk about. Yes, 886 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: you're like the fun older brother that just knows everything. 887 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 4: Yes, that's what I like to come off as instead of, 888 00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 4: you know, all the shame I like you to feel 889 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 4: a safe space to talk about your nasty thing. 890 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: You're what have you? Okay, this is how the game works, Brandon. 891 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to name three things. You're gonna tell me 892 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 2: if there're a gift or a curse and why, and 893 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 2: then just be very careful because you can lose the game. 894 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: So many people have lost this game. 895 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 3: How do you lose the game? 896 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 2: Because there are correct answers? 897 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, so just. 898 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 2: Be aware little yes please? Okay, first step, gift, you're 899 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 2: a curse. Geese a curse? And why they'll attack you? 900 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 3: You know, birds should be majestic and sweet and kind, 901 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 3: and geese are not swans neither. Yeah, that's a curse, hony. 902 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: No. 903 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 3: And do they fly? That's a curse. No, No, it's 904 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 3: a curse. 905 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: Sorry, now you've started the game off in a horrible way. 906 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 2: Geese are a gift, and almost basically for the exact 907 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 2: reason you just explained, they're so violent. There's so mean 908 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 2: geese has I've been bitten by a goose and this 909 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 2: is a gift. I love it. I love the danger element. 910 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 3: You're kinky, you like the pain? 911 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 2: Yes, you know you can't expect them to forget their 912 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 2: dinosaur past. They're violent, mean little creatures. They just want 913 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: to be left alone. They have those beaks are dangerous. 914 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 3: This is why I'm the Jennifer Aniston because I think 915 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 3: the listeners will agree are cursed. 916 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm now imagining Jennifer Andison kind of being chased around 917 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 2: her house by a goose. Okay, well, okay, zero for 918 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 2: one so far, but that's fine. I don't want to 919 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,720 Speaker 2: shake your confidence. But what are you going to do? Okay? 920 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 2: Second up, this is a listener suggestion. Someone named Nick 921 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 2: Nick has written in and suggested gift or a curse 922 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 2: playlists musical playlists. 923 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And there's nothing in between gift 924 00:42:59,239 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 3: and curse. 925 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: Right, there's no middle ground here, no gray area. 926 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,479 Speaker 3: To work with, no gray areas here. Yes, and stick 927 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 3: to that. That's you know, it's good to have really 928 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 3: strong boundaries. Boundaries. Yeah, yeah, that's that's what it is. 929 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 3: Playlists are they are? They are curson, They're curses. You 930 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 3: know what, they're curses? 931 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 4: Curses Because I used to work in fitnesses, you know, 932 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 4: full circle moment here we go. So I used to 933 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 4: teach classes and all I would have to do is 934 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 4: make playlists. All that you make a new playlist, and 935 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 4: everyone has thoughts about what they want to hear, and 936 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 4: I'm like, you're gonna hear Beyonce. Shut the fuck up. 937 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 4: It's like it's a wrap, get out of here. So 938 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 4: playlists stress me the fuck out. So for me, a 939 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 4: playlist is a curse. I want to listen to a 940 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 4: whole album. Make a good album, you know what I'm saying, 941 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 4: so I can listen to it from beginning to end. 942 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 3: Whatever happened to that? Oh yeah, I'm ready to go 943 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 3: on a tangent. 944 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Brandon, I love this argument you've made. I love 945 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: the logic here. Unfortunately, Wow, Now they're absolutely a gift. 946 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 2: You're Look, you're bringing a lot of baggage to this. Yeah, 947 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 2: of course, making playlists for your clients, that kind of 948 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 2: that sounds like hell and hell, especially when it is 949 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 2: a workout plays playlist. It's like there are only so 950 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: many it's dance, or it's pop, or it's R and B. 951 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 2: Like there, we're not putting on old country music for 952 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 2: you to work out too. 953 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 3: I am not putting that on anyway. 954 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 2: So look, you unfortunately you brought all that with you. 955 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 3: I have baggage. 956 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 2: I love a good playlist. 957 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: You're right. 958 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 2: I love putting together. I mean it can feel like 959 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: putting together a little puzzle. It's very satisfying when you 960 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 2: do it. And if somebody sends you a good playlist, 961 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 2: you might learn something new. You might you new. 962 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 3: H Yeah, I deserve to lose. I deserve to lose. 963 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 2: You do, You've earned this loss. 964 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 3: It's shameful because you know, when it's the right playlist, 965 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 3: it's just wonderful. And it's also remember like back in 966 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 3: middle school where you would like burn your CD. You 967 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 3: might have a very young audience. I know, we just 968 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 3: talked about that kindergarten, very very young. 969 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 4: Back in the day, as old folks, we used to 970 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 4: burn CDs and not burn them with fire, but you 971 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 4: know that's what they called it. When you would make 972 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 4: your playlists and then put them on a CD and 973 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 4: you would give them to friends. 974 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 3: And that was always so sweete so fun. Do you 975 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 3: remember Napster? 976 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 2: Of course Napster? Was it Kasa or Kazar or something 977 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 2: like so sure? 978 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 3: Lime Wire? 979 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I think there was Morpheus. 980 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 3: Those were revolutionary. 981 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: They changed our lives. 982 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 3: I mean, wow, it was like AOL and napstore. That 983 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 3: was it. That was I was set and porn. 984 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 2: You know, the internet has brought us everything good and bad. 985 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, there was a time and you would sit 986 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 2: there for two to three hours to get one song 987 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 2: and it meant something to you. 988 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 4: Yes, or you would start downloading it and go have dinner, 989 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 4: come back and it was still downloading. 990 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they don't know, they don't know what 991 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 3: we went. 992 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: It was agony. Did you put the work in and 993 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 2: you had a CD of sometimes eight songs because that's 994 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 2: all you could download. 995 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,240 Speaker 4: Download because then you know, mom used the phone island 996 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 4: and you got kicked. 997 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 2: Off the internet. 998 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, splurge on two lines, so we did 999 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 4: have a separate line for the internet. 1000 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: She knew what she was doing. She was forward thinking. 1001 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she was worth thinking. She really was. 1002 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 2: Okay, well look you've gotten zero so far. I mean 1003 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 2: this is. 1004 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 4: I'm proud of the second zero. You know I earned 1005 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 4: that second one. The first one. The keys I don't know. 1006 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 2: Recount Okay, let's uh, this final one is actually so 1007 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 2: we put them on some occasionally on the Instagram, like 1008 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: people will vote on various things as gift her cruse. 1009 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 2: They they'll put them in their stories and then I 1010 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 2: reposted other people vote whether it's a gift or a curse, 1011 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 2: and this one is extremely contentious. So I'll tell I'll 1012 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 2: tell you what the poll numbers were before you do it, 1013 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 2: because it was basically a forty nine to fifty one split. 1014 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 3: Oh, this is this is close the extreme. 1015 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like this before usually like TI 1016 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 2: absolutely a curse, absolutely a gift. I've never tried this 1017 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 2: product before, so I can't well, I will speak to 1018 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 2: it eventually. Here gift her a curse. Uncrustables. The little 1019 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 2: sandwiches that I think are like frozen peanut butter and 1020 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 2: jelly sandwich is. 1021 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm already out. Curse peanut butter and jelly. I'm out. 1022 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 2: You just don't like peanut butter at all. 1023 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 4: Well, it turns out I'm actually allergic to peanut peanuts. 1024 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 4: I learned recently in my allergy test. All these full 1025 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 4: circle moments, I learned that peanuts are walnuts or some 1026 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 4: kind of nut, just not you know, man, nuts, still 1027 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 4: still can take, still can suck on those, but explicit behavior. 1028 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, peanut butter and jelly. When I was younger, 1029 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 4: I was all about it. But now the peanut I no, 1030 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 4: I don't want that peanut butter. I'll have the jelly, 1031 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 4: but I don' want them no, so. 1032 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 2: No, curse curse Brandon. You got one right. Yes, I've 1033 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 2: never had these things before, but. 1034 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 3: I've never had them better. 1035 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 2: Are we talking about? If I want a peanut butter 1036 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 2: and jelly sandwhich I can make that a whole. I 1037 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 2: don't need like a weird, damp, frozen version of that. 1038 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 2: That sounds horrible. 1039 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 4: Do you remember the peanut butter jelly that came in 1040 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 4: the same container. 1041 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 3: Oh, of course it was like swirls or how lazy? 1042 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 3: How lazy? I loved it, But how lazy. 1043 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 2: Would you get? You got those the jar of the 1044 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 2: peanut butter and jams? 1045 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 3: Sometimes, yeah, because I thought they were cool. 1046 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 2: I was always suspicious of what jam they were putting 1047 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 2: in there. I like a good jam or jelly. 1048 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 4: See this, That's what I'm saying. Back in the day, 1049 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 4: when you when you're little, you don't have the taste 1050 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 4: palette yet, you just fuck with any right. But then 1051 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 4: once I learned about marmalades and and strawberries and all 1052 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 4: these different types of jams, I was like, oh no, 1053 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,240 Speaker 4: we can't do we got to upgrade this. 1054 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 2: An Liza, our producer, has just reached out told me 1055 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 2: that it was called goober. Does that ring any bells? 1056 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,919 Speaker 2: That can't possibly be true. 1057 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 3: It wasn't goober, the one that's go gurt. That's gogurt 1058 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 3: in the pack. Wow. 1059 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 2: Okay, on Lisa is saying smucker goober stripe, which, oh, yes, 1060 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 2: that's a devastating It. 1061 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 3: Was smuckers that didn't Yes, oh my god, goober stripe. 1062 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, because because because when you opened it, it was 1063 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 4: like it looked like a zebra stripe but it was 1064 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 4: jam and peanut. 1065 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 3: But it was I don't you know, God bless. 1066 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,439 Speaker 2: Okay, you got one out of three. You tried, won, 1067 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 2: you won, You won overwhelmingly. I think people would look 1068 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 2: at those numbers and say, I. 1069 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,320 Speaker 4: Will argue it was two out of three because geese 1070 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 4: are curts, So you know, I think I think I 1071 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 4: think the people will agree. 1072 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm not in the mood to argue about this. Look, well, 1073 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:02,720 Speaker 2: you know I love. 1074 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 4: To argue, and I was hoping we'd have chaos at 1075 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 4: the end of this podcast that we did promise that. 1076 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 2: So okay, we've got to get to the final segment 1077 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 2: of the podcast. This is called I said no emails. 1078 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 2: People write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. 1079 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 2: They're all just, I mean, just so depressingly desperate for answers. 1080 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 2: They've got these horrible problems in their lives, and so 1081 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 2: they reach out to me and to the guest for 1082 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 2: some advice. Right, will you help me answer? 1083 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 3: I would love to. 1084 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 2: All right, let me read this. This is deer bridger 1085 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 2: and incredibly disrespectful, guest. I assume they were thinking of you. Ah, 1086 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 2: my lovely college friends in parentheses here were saying, females 1087 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 2: in our late late thirties. Okay, so college friends in 1088 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 2: their late late thirties. Females in their late thirties. I 1089 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: keep saying that over and over, and I guess I've 1090 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 2: got to nail that in. Okay. Anyway, they give each 1091 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 2: other a group birthday present every year. We've been doing 1092 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 2: this tradition for at least seven years now. Wow. And 1093 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 2: while we used to give each other actual presence, we 1094 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 2: now give gift cards. We've clearly run out of funny 1095 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 2: or thoughtful ideas for each other, and I'd love your 1096 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,479 Speaker 2: advice for how we can add some new excitement into 1097 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 2: our gift giving. I love these friends. Dearly, and wish 1098 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 2: I could come up with better ideas without having to 1099 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 2: ask what they want. We usually spend about one hundred 1100 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 2: and fifty dollars per gift. Any suggestions for how to 1101 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 2: generate better group gift ideas? Thank you dearly? Alternatively. Okay, 1102 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 2: now we're making a turn here. Do you have a 1103 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 2: suggestion for how to better dig up info on what 1104 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 2: someone would want? They all live in different areas without 1105 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 2: flat out asking thank you, And that's from just the 1106 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 2: letter b okay, b let's answer this second question. First, 1107 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 2: private investigator. I think that that is obvious enough. If 1108 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 2: you need information on somebody without them finding out, you 1109 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 2: hire someone with a telephoto lens and a trench coat. Sure, 1110 00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,720 Speaker 2: I mean I don't know any other service. 1111 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's in a private investigator. 1112 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 2: I think they're kind of traveling around whatever states your 1113 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 2: friends are. Just ends up costing thousands of dollars. I 1114 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 2: guess you could call their partners. That's less exciting. 1115 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 4: Oh, like the friends partners for sure? That's us invasive 1116 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 4: or you you know what? My husband tell me this, 1117 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 4: which is because I am a fan of Like, what 1118 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 4: the fuck do you want? 1119 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 3: Just tell me? Because I it just it stresses me. 1120 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 4: A gift giving stresses me out, not for you, though 1121 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 4: I knew exactly what I was going to get you. 1122 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 3: So what I like to do? 1123 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 4: So you told me, just like listen, Like if you 1124 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 4: listen to what people say throughout the year, and every 1125 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 4: time they say like, oh this is interesting or I 1126 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 4: like this, like take a note of it, a mental note, 1127 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 4: and then surprise them with it at the end of 1128 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 4: the year. So that's what I started doing, and that 1129 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 4: it requires listening. It's hard, you know, because I you know, 1130 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 4: I have so much in my head already. 1131 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,320 Speaker 2: Right, I see, I feel like I'm a decent listener, 1132 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 2: but I'm a I have a horrible memory. So I'll 1133 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 2: be like, I'll clock something I need and I should 1134 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,240 Speaker 2: just write it down, But then it just goes into 1135 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 2: the banks of my mind, the sandiness of and I 1136 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 2: just forget that. I end up desperate for a gift idea. 1137 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 4: Sure I'm good at the listening, and I put make 1138 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 4: a note on my phone and then I get to it. 1139 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 2: Right, I guess that's what I also to do. 1140 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 3: A group gifts sound stressful, right? 1141 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 2: What is a group gift? Is it like a So 1142 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 2: it's about one hundred and fifty dollars. Is that each 1143 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 2: or I'm not they all pool this money and they're 1144 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 2: like on a trip. Is that what we're talking about here? Oh? 1145 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,280 Speaker 4: Maybe they mean that they all pulled to their money. 1146 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 4: They all together. Like if there were five of us 1147 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 4: and we were getting our six friend a gift, the 1148 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 4: five of us would collectively spend one fifty. 1149 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, maybe you spend one. 1150 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 2: Fifty group birthday present every. 1151 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 3: Year, so there's only one gift. 1152 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 2: And they're now giving gift cards, so that kind of 1153 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 2: makes sense. And maybe like they're like, let's all just 1154 00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,879 Speaker 2: put money and we'll give them one hundred and fifty 1155 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 2: dollar gift card. Is that what's currently happening. I think 1156 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 2: that's what they're saying. B. I hope that's what you're saying, 1157 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 2: because I can't. There's only so much I can do. 1158 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 4: But that means there are the sixth of you. If 1159 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,720 Speaker 4: there's you're a big group, then you're not doing about yourself. 1160 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 4: I feel like all of you should like be Participating's. 1161 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 2: Going to be a stressful brainstorming session. 1162 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, usually one good brainstorm. 1163 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 2: Session, right, I mean to generate new gift ideas. I 1164 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 2: look B I'm just gonna be honest with you. I 1165 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 2: have so little to say because I don't quite understand 1166 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 2: the logic of this gift thing. But I think that 1167 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 2: what you're going to want to do is maybe everyone 1168 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 2: writes a different word down on a piece of paper, 1169 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 2: uh huh, you string them together, uh huh, and then 1170 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 2: you try to make sense of that as a gift. Yes. 1171 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 3: I like that. It's like a little Ouiji board. 1172 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,280 Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, the chaos. 1173 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 4: I was going to say, if you hold your phone 1174 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 4: and just keep saying gift ideas, then you'll open Instagram 1175 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 4: and something will be advertised to you. I think that 1176 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 4: that might be the you'll get some new advertisements, I. 1177 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 2: Mean talking about invasive things. Maybe get into their search history. 1178 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 2: Love that that's a I mean, I guess that would 1179 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 2: require some cyber sleuth. I'm sure that's available on the 1180 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 2: dark web. 1181 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Google Search, I'll get you that. You know that information. 1182 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 2: Look, when you're in desperate need of a gift, you 1183 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 2: reach out to the dark web. Everyone knows it. You 1184 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 2: get a light hacking, some light hacking. Just you know, 1185 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 2: you invade privacy, you do whatever it takes. 1186 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 3: Nothing fraudulent, it's just you know, just a little hacking, 1187 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 3: you know, that's it for a gift's a reason for 1188 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 3: it be otherwise. 1189 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 2: Look, it seems like you're all kind of tired of 1190 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 2: each other. It might be time to just go your 1191 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 2: separate ways, find a new group of friends, and and 1192 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 2: don't bring a gift element into that group of friends. 1193 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 2: So then you have to worry about it. 1194 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 4: Or you can repeat the gifts that you already gave. 1195 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 4: Last My god, that's now they don't know. 1196 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 3: This is so. 1197 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 2: Kind of a drifter. B We're encouraging you to become 1198 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 2: a drifter, go from town to town, getting groups of 1199 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 2: friends that you spend seven years with, giving gifts, and 1200 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 2: then move fall. It's easy. 1201 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 3: I think that's the best advice we've given so far. 1202 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 2: Well, obviously be is at rock bottom, and they'll take 1203 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 2: any type of a device they can get. And so 1204 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 2: I think that we've given multiple excellent options and nobody 1205 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 2: can criticize us. 1206 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 4: No, there's no holes in any of them. I think 1207 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 4: they're all they're pretty full proof. 1208 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 2: So, Brandon, we did an excellent job. Everyone's happy with us, 1209 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 2: everyone's cheering us on. 1210 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 3: They wanted us to win, and we wonsfied. 1211 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 2: This is a victory is ours and uh, I mean 1212 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 2: victory is doubly mine because now I have all of 1213 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 2: this Vacalline in my life. 1214 00:56:58,680 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 3: And I'm so happy for you. 1215 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,799 Speaker 4: The moisture is just going to continue to full and 1216 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 4: you have beautiful skin already, so it's just going to be. 1217 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 2: I am going to be a glowing angel by your 1218 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 2: I need photos. 1219 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 4: So as soon as you post a photo, fucking tag me, 1220 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 4: so I can you post it? I'd be like Masoline 1221 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 4: and then we can get Avaciline. 1222 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 2: You want to tagged. I would love to be the face. 1223 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 4: We're gonna start as the face of athlete and then 1224 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 4: we will all upgrade to you know, how about that. 1225 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 2: That's not a bad You have to start somewhere. We 1226 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 2: start with this podcast, move on to Vasiline. People are like, 1227 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,479 Speaker 2: what's happening, and then we've got you know, we've done 1228 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 2: our work, and then we move on for Gens. 1229 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 4: Absolutely, we move on for that no wall house. Vasiline 1230 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 4: clearly needs us. They you know, they're not a you know, 1231 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 4: fucking massive. 1232 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 3: They need our support. Your swipe ups. 1233 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Okay, Well, this is the end of the podcast. 1234 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,479 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for being here. Had such a wonderful time. 1235 00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me listener. You've heard kind of 1236 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 2: the last few things we've said, and so hopefully that's 1237 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 2: been a clue that this is the end of the podcast. 1238 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 2: You're catching on, you're ready to move on. The audio 1239 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 2: will end at some point, you'll switch to something else. 1240 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 2: Maybe you'll listen to the episode again, because there are 1241 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 2: a lot of things that you probably wanted to catch 1242 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 2: that you were too busy having a wonderful time to 1243 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 2: hear in the first go round. So do what you 1244 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 2: need to do. I love you, goodbye. I Said No 1245 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 2: Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced and engineered 1246 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 2: by our dear friend ann A Lise Nelson, and the 1247 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 2: theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must 1248 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 2: follow the show on Instagram at I Said No Gifts. 1249 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 2: That's where you're going to see pictures of all these 1250 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 2: wonderful gifts I'm getting. You have to see the gifts. 1251 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 2: Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you 1252 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 2: found me. And why not leave a review while you're 1253 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 2: There's really the least you could do, considering everything I 1254 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 2: do for you. And if you're interested in advertising on 1255 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 2: the show, go to miderl dot com slash ads. 1256 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 1257 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 3: But you're a. 1258 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: Guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty, And. 1259 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 2: I said, no, guess. 1260 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: Your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, 1261 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey mean