WEBVTT - MVP: 2022 NFL Draft - Day 2 Breakdown | Episode 143 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:08.800 You know, getting a good vibe for everyone, you know, 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:12.080 from coaching staff, leadership just gets me excited. You know, 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:14.000 this is where I'm gonna live, This is where I'm 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:18.480 gonna play ball, you know, develop as a player. For one, 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:20.880 I want to say, I'm a problem solver. I can run, 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.840 I got the size, I'm smart in the whole nine yard, 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.480 So they're gonna allow me to play the game of 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:33.040 my full potential. All right, Welcome to another edition of 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.120 the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. Episode one forty three to be 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:40.680 exact recording got eleven fifty pm Central Time with the crew. 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.960 I'm talking about Tatum Everett, Ron Johnson or John Ronson, 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:45.400 whatever you want to call him. And we got Pete 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.320 versus Jay Nelson on the ones and twos, and the 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:53.560 Vikings dropped up tonight by selecting three players, three playmakers 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.960 according to quasi adopel menta. But similar to Day one, 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.560 the Vikings traded back a couple of times and then 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.960 traded up up to get some of those picks, starting 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.200 with Andrew Booth Junior. We needed a cornerback and we 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.520 got one, and a lot of us were highing him 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.039 coming into it. We thought he was going to be 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.720 there at thirty four, a quacodope mint to work some 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.880 of his magic and ultimately ended up getting on Andrew 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.440 Booth Junior. Then, with the fifty ninth overall selection, the 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.520 Vikings selective ed Ingram Interior old linment for the for 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.880 LSU won a national championship in twenty nineteen, and they 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:29.640 rounded today out by selecting linebacker Brian Asamoa from Oklahoma 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.080 and Pete, I want to start with you Andrew Booth Junior. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.080 We knew this was going to be a need for 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.880 the Vikings drafting a cornerback. A lot of Vikings fans 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.080 wanted us to draft a cornerback and twelfth overall, but 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.000 we didn't do so. A lot of the cornerbacks were 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.000 off the board. But your thoughts on Andrew Booth Junior, 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.559 you know he was, Yeah, his name was thrown along 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.240 around quite a bit early. I don't know if it's 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.960 it's the fact they didn't run a four fours, you know, 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.600 the thing people stay away from. But I look at 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.480 it this way. Ed Donna Tell cut his teeth in 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.880 this league as a defensive back coach. He was a 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:04.360 defensive bass coach for the Bears. Um you know, just 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:08.080 he's been around this league and he knows defensive backs 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.360 when he sees him. It's a little bit different of 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.840 a system. You don't really you know, when when you 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.920 have defensive lineman or outside linebackers setting an edge, you 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.560 don't really have the need for a corner to be 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.399 and run support as much like in the four three. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.760 You can stack tight ends and just keep blocking down 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.440 and eventually that corner is the one that has to 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:29.480 crack and replace. Ralliot make a tackle and so he 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.120 does appear to be physical. Um, but you're getting a 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.360 good quality player. And we talked about this before the draft. 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.280 He even started. If you want to start on this team, 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:39.640 you want to be a safety or a corner, a 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:43.040 defensive tackle or an edge rusher. Um on defense, that's 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.160 going to be the easiest route. And so uh, it 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:50.240 looks to be that they got themselves, you know, two 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.520 maybe three good starters all you know already awesome. Always 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.639 going to take some time, but he's gonna be able 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.400 to help along the way. There's so there's there's a 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.560 lot um a lot added a lot of talent and 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.120 you know the lot of guys that just can play football. Yeah, right, 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.280 if you want to just use an old school term, 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.880 because I am old so I use those terms. But 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.040 the terms a lot, the terms you use are always 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:20.080 endearing and they're always new. So game old man saying 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.600 new things. I feel like that's the new wave now 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:28.680 right right, Like like TikTok, that's as an old man 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.320 saying something new. Well, yeah, well I know someone who's 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.679 on TikTok and that's Tatum. Not not quite. I got 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.280 pressure into doing a TikTok in Vegas with our social 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:41.480 media producer, so that was a good times. No. I. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.200 I think it's really important to think that a downtown 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.600 is a big part of this decision making process because 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.160 Quacy and Kevin are putting their full confidence in him. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.480 And then today a lot of the scouts spoke on 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.080 behalf of the staff as they were continuing to draft, 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.880 saying that Downtell thinks he can really move a guy 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.600 like Booth around and that he can be the sheer 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.600 ability to turn the ball over. He's got the hands 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.960 to do so, it has the length, and he brings 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.080 a lot of things to the table that they're looking 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.360 for as far as plug and play, like maybe he's 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.440 not playing this quintessential role. They can kind of move 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.560 them all around. Ron being that you were from Detroit 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.920 and seeing that the Vikings traded with Detroit last night 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:23.120 from twelve to thirty two, selected Lewis Lewis scene with 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.680 that pick, and then started the day the day off 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.400 by trading the thirty fourth overall pick to the Green 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.520 Bay Packers and then moving back up to sit like 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.279 Andrew Booth Junior. What were your thoughts on just those 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.800 moves to get a guy in Andrew Booth, Well, I 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:37.360 thought it was key. So when you look at Andrew 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.120 Booth Jr. I thought that was the guy all along, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:41.560 Like I thought that was the guy that gonna take 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.240 over Lewis scene, even though he was graded out as 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.480 a second, you know, possible third round depending on how 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.440 this draft went. If that's a guy you like, and 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.719 I've always heard there from scouts coaches, if there's a 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.839 guy you like like, if you look at Pierre Garson 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.159 with the coach people thought a kid out of Mount 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.320 Union shouldn't be a third round pick, well he ends 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.680 up being a really good player. Tony Dungee believe in 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.159 what they saw, they drafted him. It worked out, and 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.520 so you can never the problem. And to your point, 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.839 and this is what happens in the draft rooms is 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.920 you have a guy that you that's sitting there at 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.120 as it was a second round talent, and now all 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.159 of a sudden you were late in the third and 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.880 if you're gonna go true to your board, it's like, no, 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.560 this this guy here is smaller school whatever, he's perfect 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.280 as a third rounder. This, you know, we're stepping up him. 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.279 We're making an aggressive move to get this guy. But 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.680 then everyone's like, yeah, what about this guy here? Because 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.599 you know what I mean, it's so you know, I 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.520 think Spielman and those guys like to put the star 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.880 or whatever, red tag or whatever next to him. But 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.320 that's that's tough. It's tough for an organization to stand 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.159 up and just say you know what, no, we want 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:48.559 We'll continue to pass on player A. Yeah, we're taking 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.240 this guy. Yeah, because if that's your guy, you go 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.600 get him, you know. And like Tatum was saying, ed, 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.840 donatell clearly has a vision. He clearly and we had 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.320 Ryan Monis on, you know, and he mentioned that he said, 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.520 look right away they came and told us as scouts, 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.320 this is what we want. This is what we want 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:04.720 you guys to scout. This is what we want you 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.320 guys to look for. So clearly, Booth fits whatever they're 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.000 gonna do. Like she said, if he's a move guy, 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:10.760 he's a guy that can play in the nickel. If 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.080 they put chan in Sellivan outside and certain you know 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.159 teams they're playing, they already got it matched up. Patrick Peterson, 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.719 you're gonna be here. If we're gonna put someone so 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.039 on the box. If we're gonna move our new linebacker 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.279 who's two hundred twenty six pounds and runs, you know, 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.640 runs a four or four in the field, you're gonna 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.040 spy the quarterbacks. So Eric and Juice can rush. I 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.880 think in the three to four you don't always have to, 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:34.640 and that's why I actually like it. You don't have 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.560 to stay into your true look like you can move 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.400 guys around. But the key is knowing your role, and 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.440 I think that's the other part. They wanted smart guys 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.440 that can come into this defense right away and say, 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.440 if you line up at safety, but you're in the box, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.119 but I need you to get all the way across 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:50.240 the other side of the field and be on the 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.480 hash at the snap of the ball. We know Harrison 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.440 Smith can do it. We know Patrick Peterson can do it. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.360 We saw games nothing against and I think he's gonna 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.480 get better. Where Cam Dancer was just in the wrong spot. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:01.479 And if you can get guys a line up in 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.560 the right spot and do all that crazy move stuff, 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.479 you can be a really good defense. Look at the Packers, 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:07.600 look at the Ravens, and I think that's what ed 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.000 Donatail is trying to create. He's trying to create. Uh. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.840 Some people call it controlled chaos, where it just it 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:14.800 looks crazy at the snap, but then boom there in 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:19.560 their spots, you know, and it you bring up a 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.080 fabulous point and it's ironic. And if you think about 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:26.240 this is um you know, they they they they call 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:31.679 coach O'Connell referred to it as as as us illusion 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:36.720 of complexity. Right, it's hilarious how the offense will line 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.840 up in a million different ways to run the same 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.920 damn place. But for a defense, what do you want 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.440 to do? Show the same damn look snap after snap 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.760 after snap a play different things? How do you do 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.320 that as a defense? How do you line up in 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:59.240 the same umbrella look and in adjust when you have 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.720 all these shifts in motions and jet motions and things. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.080 You do that because you got guys that can play 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.880 out of position, right, and when you're when you're a 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:12.280 four three UM in your handicap, meaning you become matchup based, 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.840 and you say, we just do not want this guy. 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:20.400 We do not want Gabe Henderson covering you Ron Johns. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.760 We just we do not want that. And we saw 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.640 that on film with the ramsay, you know, with with 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.640 with putting the running backs, flexing them all the way 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.880 outside and all you gotta do is look up and 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:37.240 say linebackers walked out man and man corner bumped up zone. Well, 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.600 when you have athletes that are versatile um, and I 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.000 think this is one of Harrison Smith's greatest strengths is 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.160 that you don't know what he's gonna do because he 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.040 can blitz. So if he walks up, you have to 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.240 pay attention to him because he can still drop in 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.679 the deep half or deep third or whatever middle of 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.720 the field and he can blitz. He could you know, 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.000 be down to defend the run. He could do anything 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.199 from there. And it sounds like scenes the same way, correct, right, 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.319 And now you've got a corner who can do so 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.480 What it does for the defense is you don't you 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.880 don't have these matchup nightmares. Correct that you're saying, Okay, well, 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.560 we don't want this to have them. So anytime the 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.800 slot goes and Nickel runs with them, but if the 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.280 Z goes, then we're just gonna do you know, And 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.560 then it's paralysis by analysis. And it's exactly what Kevin 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.280 O'Connell coach wants to see and wants to see. You 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.559 move one guy and then have three defenders move. We 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:30.400 covered all this on those film segments. They motion or 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.320 running back out and there goes the linebacker. Now they 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.319 got the number count they want, right, But if you 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.720 can get four defenders moving right before the snap on 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:41.200 one guy, one receiver moving, they will take that all day. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.360 Guess it really good? How do you stop that? Have 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.040 guys that can play multiple spots. That's a really good point. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.800 But I mean, I think, like you said to Negate 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.679 that if you got the defenders moving around so much, all, 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.320 like you said, all the offense has to do is 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.720 go on motion and everything. Oh, we can't discuss this 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.920 anymore because there's so many emotions going on. And I 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.240 think that's where this offense is going to thrive and 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.040 then moving to the offensive side of the ball. That's 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:05.360 why the Vikings wanted to bring in another interior offensive 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:09.679 lineman to be able to increase havoc for opposing defenses 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:14.080 in at Ingram interior offensive lineman Lsu selected with the 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.679 fifty nine overall pick earlier tonight. He is going to 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.560 be able to provide value because he is quick. He 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.640 can put less pressure on a quarterback by being able 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:25.800 to move. And now we have a guy Tatum that 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.440 also can be in this competition battle easily. I mean, 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.360 I think they're asking for him to be right there 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.000 with all the others in the depth. As far as 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.280 his versatility, because he played both right and left guard, 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.000 mainly left guard in college, and I think we're clearly 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.880 looking for more of a right guard rotation at this point. 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.080 But he's a guy that brings speed. He spoke to 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.760 me earlier this evening and he thinks that his greatest 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:49.920 strength is run blocking, but he's created out as the 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.440 highest SEC pass blocker last season, and so you know, 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.839 I think that that versatility is something that we could see, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:59.040 especially as like as in on third down, like if 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.040 you're in third short to tuations in urine trying to, 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.280 you know, just get a yard. He said, just put 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.840 me in stick down, cook behind me and let me 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.319 go because I'm gonna block anyone out of the way. 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.720 And I believe him. He's he's a big dude. Yeah, 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.320 And that's all mentality too, right, It's like running behind me. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.440 Like every offensive lineman should have that mindset and ron 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.920 understanding from the offensive side of the ball. When your receiver, 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.600 it's like, throw me the ball, I'll catch it every 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.160 and anytime you put it up in the air. But 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.280 having that mindset as an offensive lineman, what does that 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.199 tell you about the kind of guys Quacy and Kevin 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.280 O'Connor were trying to bring here. Yeah, I mean we've 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.959 all done this drill, the base block drill. Some people 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:36.520 love it, some people hate it. I ain't block as 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.880 a receiver, but at six three, two hundred and thirty pounds, 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.280 I loved it because every dB was smaller than me. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.440 And so you know, you put that board in between 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.280 those legs. You got to keep your base and it's 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.360 just me versus you, and we're gonna push each other 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.719 back and forth until somebody blows the whistle, until like, 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.120 get your butt on the ground. And to hear Louis 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.560 sne say that that, I want to break your wheel 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.719 by breaking your neck. He said, this is the only 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.880 sport I can hit somebody and not go to jail, 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.560 and so and so. You know when you hear guys 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.080 say that, and you watch that Alabama Georgia game where 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.520 like Pete said, or you bought up the motion. Alabama 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.240 does a tun of window dressing motions. We know that 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.760 with their offensive coordinator. But Lewis Scene was in the 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.920 one I tweeted. He's on the right side of the field. 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.680 He has to man up the receiver going all the 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.400 way across. At the snap he was able to get 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.440 over there with the speed and tackle him for a 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.719 four yard loss. And so when you have a guy 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.560 like that that wants to hit you wants to block him, 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.560 you look at the offensive lineman same thing. Like Tatum said, 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:30.400 he wants to get a guy in front of him. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:34.000 Every time he pulled, he's looking for somebody to knock 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.680 their head off. And I think we had so many 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.760 offensive guards. I can't remember the one guy's name he was. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.600 He had a Commodo dragon in his yard. Said he's 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:47.480 gonna knock. He's gonna punch the packers in their mouth boom. 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:49.520 You know, we had guys that would talk about it, 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.839 and then in the games we'd be like, where's the punch. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:53.640 You know, this is a guy who's just saying, look, 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.920 I'm a football player, like I'm not trying to be 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.520 a bully, but when I put my pads on, you'll 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.439 see what I can do. And I I even listen 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.760 to the negatives of mail Kiper. And I don't really 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.640 listen to mail Kiper much because he's always wrong, but 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.920 you listen to the negatives. His negatives weren't bad like 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.800 his negatives were. Like one of the negatives was he 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:15.840 gets too handsy, and you can you can teach somebody 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.960 to not do it. And that's just being tired. Like conditioning. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:19.640 He's gonna change when he gets here. He's gonna have 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.000 money now to pay for a trainer. Um, you know, 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.720 his mail plans gonna change. Even though college LSU. You 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.120 guys get paid a ton of millions and LSU, I 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:32.160 know that to train and eat now we got the nil. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.719 But you know when you when you look at that 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.720 the handsy, you know that's tired. That's, you know, playing 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.480 long game technique exactly. You got a coach now who's 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.600 gonna teach a little bit different technique. He's gonna work 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.320 on on one on one. You're my draft pick. I'm 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.599 gonna make sure you get it right. And this is 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.120 your job. You don't have class. So if you have 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.599 issues with your hands and your technique, I want you 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.880 here at six am. I want you here at four pm. 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.480 Like he's going to have that, just like Xavier rolls 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.440 with Zimmer. Zimmer had Xavier roles with boxing. Loves thee 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:03.080 after practice work in says, so he would not be handsy, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.800 and what happened he became a pro bowler. So the 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.040 negatives like if he said, oh he's he's soft, you 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.160 know he messes up on blocks, he misses a ton 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.720 of it was none of that. Yeah, it was he 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:17.000 grabs sometimes. They're not heart issues that correct. Yeah. Let 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.320 me say this about offensive line real quick. There's a 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.120 couple of things that matter. You have to do something well, 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.120 either it's run blocking or pass blocking one or the other. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:30.840 The second thing is consistency. And I know this from 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.880 from coaching and with Brian McKinney, and we'd play somebody 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:39.120 and Brian McKinney would play you know, Randal McDaniel esque, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:43.360 meaning he was grading out at ninety five ninety seven percent, 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.120 and then a week later he would play a lesser 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:50.120 opponent and grade out at like sixty. You can't game 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.040 plan for that. As a coach. If I have a 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.800 guy and my offensive line who I know can run block, 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.560 I can scheme around that. If I know the guy 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.360 also needs help in the passing game, we can scheme 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.400 for that as well. And with the way this league 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.720 has gone with the bare front, which is what you 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.200 cover up the guard, you cover up those guys are 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.440 in tight though, so you cover up. It's man on 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:14.480 man both guards and the zero knows and you need 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.760 to be big and physical inside now because he's d 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.800 linemen are three twenty. First and second down you're blocking 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.960 a three hundred and thirty pound man, and then third 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.200 down you're blocking a two hundred and seventy five pound 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.240 guy who can run a four to four. So as 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.800 long as he can do something well and is consistent, 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.920 then Kevin O'Connell as an offensive coordinator can help. You 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.240 can help with formation, You can help with the different 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.320 types of protections. We know when we do not want 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.160 to put this young man in a bad position. But 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.040 if one game he can he's his road grading people, 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.600 and then a week later he's pass blocking like a 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.440 maniac but not doing the other, then that becomes a problem. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:55.000 So you know, that's what he has to do. He 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.800 has to just come in here and make make make 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.880 him make it known to the team and to coach 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.640 staff that hey, I do this, this is my bed. 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.400 I might need help in the passing game, but at 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.880 least when we need a yard when it's fourth and one, 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:13.960 you know, right behind me, and we haven't had. We 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.080 haven't had. When's the last super physical lineman that came 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.120 through here. It's been a while, a long time, Hutchinson. Maybe. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:26.680 I mean it's because you know, and there's no other guard. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.040 Like Tatum said, there's gonna be a competition, and I 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:33.280 think we thought, why, Davis, why exactly we didn't get that. 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.360 So this is gonna be a fun training camp. Why 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.160 she'll definitely get a chance and another guy that will 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.560 get a chance to compete, And I'm just leaving at 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.400 that to compete is the seventy seventh overall pick in 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:48.120 the draft. This year Brian as linebacker from Oklahoma. Pete, 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.800 you and I have had numerous discussions about this guy 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:55.640 months ago. Yeah, he's you know the thing there were 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.000 at that position, at the linebacker position, there were a 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.080 lot of guys that were slated to go later that were, 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.640 you know, damn good football players. It's like the running 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.080 back position. That position has been devalued, I think a 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.080 little bit in the eyes of a lot of teams. Um, 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.320 he's a guy that when you watch him on film, 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.160 you look at the height weight, and then you watch 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.600 the film and you go back to the height and wait, 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.560 and damn it if this kid was only two inches taller. 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.199 And then you go watch the film and you're like, 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.240 I don't care that this kid is six foot tall. 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.840 You know, but at two twenty he's gonna hurt himself. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.280 And he watched the film again and you're like, oh 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.399 my god, he's so physical. How's he not busted up 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.200 in a million people? You know, he's Um, he's he's 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.320 a hell of a good football player. You know, he's 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.760 he's he's around the ball, reads things well. I think 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.359 Manusky's gonna get you know, get his hands on him. Uh, 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:49.200 you know, and with most extremely athletic linebackers, they let 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.920 their technique and their footwork slide and he could overcome 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.760 a lot of the crossovers and fall steps and things 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.800 like that. Um, but he's not. I think he can 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:00.639 get that out of him. And the other thing that 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.960 he does very very well like most a lot of 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.719 the linebackers in this in this draft this year, uh 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:09.440 complitz and you need that. There you go, you need 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.199 that and you absolutely now he's not going to go 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.480 take a center down the middle and dump him right, 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.679 no question about that. How but he's got to speeding 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.160 quickness TOI to cause problems with a running back. So 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.600 he goes one on one against the running back. You know. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.520 Now now now we might win that. And you know 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.320 that was one of the Anthony Bars things is that 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.359 you put you can't block that guy with a with 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.280 a running back. So for Asomo, I may not be 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.760 freight training people like you know, like Bar did, but 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.600 he can definitely scoot, no question about that. I actually 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.760 wanted to ask you guys a question for the way 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.960 that this draft has gone. The trading of the picks 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:47.960 three out of four of the pixel far up in defense. 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:51.399 Has it been in the areas you think are the 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.840 most concerned. Are these good fits in your eyes? I'll 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:56.240 go with you run, I'll say yeah. I mean again, 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.760 Corner was one. He did it, you know, an impact player. 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.320 He did it at safety, you know, because again Cam 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.160