Speaker 1: You know, getting a good vibe for everyone, you know,
Speaker 1: from coaching staff, leadership just gets me excited. You know,
Speaker 1: this is where I'm gonna live, This is where I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play ball, you know, develop as a player. For one,
Speaker 1: I want to say, I'm a problem solver. I can run,
Speaker 1: I got the size, I'm smart in the whole nine yard,
Speaker 1: So they're gonna allow me to play the game of
Speaker 1: my full potential. All right, Welcome to another edition of
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. Episode one forty three to be
Speaker 1: exact recording got eleven fifty pm Central Time with the crew.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Tatum Everett, Ron Johnson or John Ronson,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him. And we got Pete
Speaker 1: versus Jay Nelson on the ones and twos, and the
Speaker 1: Vikings dropped up tonight by selecting three players, three playmakers
Speaker 1: according to quasi adopel menta. But similar to Day one,
Speaker 1: the Vikings traded back a couple of times and then
Speaker 1: traded up up to get some of those picks, starting
Speaker 1: with Andrew Booth Junior. We needed a cornerback and we
Speaker 1: got one, and a lot of us were highing him
Speaker 1: coming into it. We thought he was going to be
Speaker 1: there at thirty four, a quacodope mint to work some
Speaker 1: of his magic and ultimately ended up getting on Andrew
Speaker 1: Booth Junior. Then, with the fifty ninth overall selection, the
Speaker 1: Vikings selective ed Ingram Interior old linment for the for
Speaker 1: LSU won a national championship in twenty nineteen, and they
Speaker 1: rounded today out by selecting linebacker Brian Asamoa from Oklahoma
Speaker 1: and Pete, I want to start with you Andrew Booth Junior.
Speaker 1: We knew this was going to be a need for
Speaker 1: the Vikings drafting a cornerback. A lot of Vikings fans
Speaker 1: wanted us to draft a cornerback and twelfth overall, but
Speaker 1: we didn't do so. A lot of the cornerbacks were
Speaker 1: off the board. But your thoughts on Andrew Booth Junior,
Speaker 1: you know he was, Yeah, his name was thrown along
Speaker 1: around quite a bit early. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: it's the fact they didn't run a four fours, you know,
Speaker 1: the thing people stay away from. But I look at
Speaker 1: it this way. Ed Donna Tell cut his teeth in
Speaker 1: this league as a defensive back coach. He was a
Speaker 1: defensive bass coach for the Bears. Um you know, just
Speaker 1: he's been around this league and he knows defensive backs
Speaker 1: when he sees him. It's a little bit different of
Speaker 1: a system. You don't really you know, when when you
Speaker 1: have defensive lineman or outside linebackers setting an edge, you
Speaker 1: don't really have the need for a corner to be
Speaker 1: and run support as much like in the four three.
Speaker 1: You can stack tight ends and just keep blocking down
Speaker 1: and eventually that corner is the one that has to
Speaker 1: crack and replace. Ralliot make a tackle and so he
Speaker 1: does appear to be physical. Um, but you're getting a
Speaker 1: good quality player. And we talked about this before the draft.
Speaker 1: He even started. If you want to start on this team,
Speaker 1: you want to be a safety or a corner, a
Speaker 1: defensive tackle or an edge rusher. Um on defense, that's
Speaker 1: going to be the easiest route. And so uh, it
Speaker 1: looks to be that they got themselves, you know, two
Speaker 1: maybe three good starters all you know already awesome. Always
Speaker 1: going to take some time, but he's gonna be able
Speaker 1: to help along the way. There's so there's there's a
Speaker 1: lot um a lot added a lot of talent and
Speaker 1: you know the lot of guys that just can play football. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: if you want to just use an old school term,
Speaker 1: because I am old so I use those terms. But
Speaker 1: the terms a lot, the terms you use are always
Speaker 1: endearing and they're always new. So game old man saying
Speaker 1: new things. I feel like that's the new wave now
Speaker 1: right right, Like like TikTok, that's as an old man
Speaker 1: saying something new. Well, yeah, well I know someone who's
Speaker 1: on TikTok and that's Tatum. Not not quite. I got
Speaker 1: pressure into doing a TikTok in Vegas with our social
Speaker 1: media producer, so that was a good times. No. I.
Speaker 1: I think it's really important to think that a downtown
Speaker 1: is a big part of this decision making process because
Speaker 1: Quacy and Kevin are putting their full confidence in him.
Speaker 1: And then today a lot of the scouts spoke on
Speaker 1: behalf of the staff as they were continuing to draft,
Speaker 1: saying that Downtell thinks he can really move a guy
Speaker 1: like Booth around and that he can be the sheer
Speaker 1: ability to turn the ball over. He's got the hands
Speaker 1: to do so, it has the length, and he brings
Speaker 1: a lot of things to the table that they're looking
Speaker 1: for as far as plug and play, like maybe he's
Speaker 1: not playing this quintessential role. They can kind of move
Speaker 1: them all around. Ron being that you were from Detroit
Speaker 1: and seeing that the Vikings traded with Detroit last night
Speaker 1: from twelve to thirty two, selected Lewis Lewis scene with
Speaker 1: that pick, and then started the day the day off
Speaker 1: by trading the thirty fourth overall pick to the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers and then moving back up to sit like
Speaker 1: Andrew Booth Junior. What were your thoughts on just those
Speaker 1: moves to get a guy in Andrew Booth, Well, I
Speaker 1: thought it was key. So when you look at Andrew
Speaker 1: Booth Jr. I thought that was the guy all along,
Speaker 1: Like I thought that was the guy that gonna take
Speaker 1: over Lewis scene, even though he was graded out as
Speaker 1: a second, you know, possible third round depending on how
Speaker 1: this draft went. If that's a guy you like, and
Speaker 1: I've always heard there from scouts coaches, if there's a
Speaker 1: guy you like like, if you look at Pierre Garson
Speaker 1: with the coach people thought a kid out of Mount
Speaker 1: Union shouldn't be a third round pick, well he ends
Speaker 1: up being a really good player. Tony Dungee believe in
Speaker 1: what they saw, they drafted him. It worked out, and
Speaker 1: so you can never the problem. And to your point,
Speaker 1: and this is what happens in the draft rooms is
Speaker 1: you have a guy that you that's sitting there at
Speaker 1: as it was a second round talent, and now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you were late in the third and
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go true to your board, it's like, no,
Speaker 1: this this guy here is smaller school whatever, he's perfect
Speaker 1: as a third rounder. This, you know, we're stepping up him.
Speaker 1: We're making an aggressive move to get this guy. But
Speaker 1: then everyone's like, yeah, what about this guy here? Because
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's so you know, I
Speaker 1: think Spielman and those guys like to put the star
Speaker 1: or whatever, red tag or whatever next to him. But
Speaker 1: that's that's tough. It's tough for an organization to stand
Speaker 1: up and just say you know what, no, we want
Speaker 1: We'll continue to pass on player A. Yeah, we're taking
Speaker 1: this guy. Yeah, because if that's your guy, you go
Speaker 1: get him, you know. And like Tatum was saying, ed,
Speaker 1: donatell clearly has a vision. He clearly and we had
Speaker 1: Ryan Monis on, you know, and he mentioned that he said,
Speaker 1: look right away they came and told us as scouts,
Speaker 1: this is what we want. This is what we want
Speaker 1: you guys to scout. This is what we want you
Speaker 1: guys to look for. So clearly, Booth fits whatever they're
Speaker 1: gonna do. Like she said, if he's a move guy,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that can play in the nickel. If
Speaker 1: they put chan in Sellivan outside and certain you know
Speaker 1: teams they're playing, they already got it matched up. Patrick Peterson,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be here. If we're gonna put someone so
Speaker 1: on the box. If we're gonna move our new linebacker
Speaker 1: who's two hundred twenty six pounds and runs, you know,
Speaker 1: runs a four or four in the field, you're gonna
Speaker 1: spy the quarterbacks. So Eric and Juice can rush. I
Speaker 1: think in the three to four you don't always have to,
Speaker 1: and that's why I actually like it. You don't have
Speaker 1: to stay into your true look like you can move
Speaker 1: guys around. But the key is knowing your role, and
Speaker 1: I think that's the other part. They wanted smart guys
Speaker 1: that can come into this defense right away and say,
Speaker 1: if you line up at safety, but you're in the box,
Speaker 1: but I need you to get all the way across
Speaker 1: the other side of the field and be on the
Speaker 1: hash at the snap of the ball. We know Harrison
Speaker 1: Smith can do it. We know Patrick Peterson can do it.
Speaker 1: We saw games nothing against and I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: get better. Where Cam Dancer was just in the wrong spot.
Speaker 1: And if you can get guys a line up in
Speaker 1: the right spot and do all that crazy move stuff,
Speaker 1: you can be a really good defense. Look at the Packers,
Speaker 1: look at the Ravens, and I think that's what ed
Speaker 1: Donatail is trying to create. He's trying to create. Uh.
Speaker 1: Some people call it controlled chaos, where it just it
Speaker 1: looks crazy at the snap, but then boom there in
Speaker 1: their spots, you know, and it you bring up a
Speaker 1: fabulous point and it's ironic. And if you think about
Speaker 1: this is um you know, they they they they call
Speaker 1: coach O'Connell referred to it as as as us illusion
Speaker 1: of complexity. Right, it's hilarious how the offense will line
Speaker 1: up in a million different ways to run the same
Speaker 1: damn place. But for a defense, what do you want
Speaker 1: to do? Show the same damn look snap after snap
Speaker 1: after snap a play different things? How do you do
Speaker 1: that as a defense? How do you line up in
Speaker 1: the same umbrella look and in adjust when you have
Speaker 1: all these shifts in motions and jet motions and things.
Speaker 1: You do that because you got guys that can play
Speaker 1: out of position, right, and when you're when you're a
Speaker 1: four three UM in your handicap, meaning you become matchup based,
Speaker 1: and you say, we just do not want this guy.
Speaker 1: We do not want Gabe Henderson covering you Ron Johns.
Speaker 1: We just we do not want that. And we saw
Speaker 1: that on film with the ramsay, you know, with with
Speaker 1: with putting the running backs, flexing them all the way
Speaker 1: outside and all you gotta do is look up and
Speaker 1: say linebackers walked out man and man corner bumped up zone. Well,
Speaker 1: when you have athletes that are versatile um, and I
Speaker 1: think this is one of Harrison Smith's greatest strengths is
Speaker 1: that you don't know what he's gonna do because he
Speaker 1: can blitz. So if he walks up, you have to
Speaker 1: pay attention to him because he can still drop in
Speaker 1: the deep half or deep third or whatever middle of
Speaker 1: the field and he can blitz. He could you know,
Speaker 1: be down to defend the run. He could do anything
Speaker 1: from there. And it sounds like scenes the same way, correct, right,
Speaker 1: And now you've got a corner who can do so
Speaker 1: What it does for the defense is you don't you
Speaker 1: don't have these matchup nightmares. Correct that you're saying, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: we don't want this to have them. So anytime the
Speaker 1: slot goes and Nickel runs with them, but if the
Speaker 1: Z goes, then we're just gonna do you know, And
Speaker 1: then it's paralysis by analysis. And it's exactly what Kevin
Speaker 1: O'Connell coach wants to see and wants to see. You
Speaker 1: move one guy and then have three defenders move. We
Speaker 1: covered all this on those film segments. They motion or
Speaker 1: running back out and there goes the linebacker. Now they
Speaker 1: got the number count they want, right, But if you
Speaker 1: can get four defenders moving right before the snap on
Speaker 1: one guy, one receiver moving, they will take that all day.
Speaker 1: Guess it really good? How do you stop that? Have
Speaker 1: guys that can play multiple spots. That's a really good point.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think, like you said to Negate
Speaker 1: that if you got the defenders moving around so much, all,
Speaker 1: like you said, all the offense has to do is
Speaker 1: go on motion and everything. Oh, we can't discuss this
Speaker 1: anymore because there's so many emotions going on. And I
Speaker 1: think that's where this offense is going to thrive and
Speaker 1: then moving to the offensive side of the ball. That's
Speaker 1: why the Vikings wanted to bring in another interior offensive
Speaker 1: lineman to be able to increase havoc for opposing defenses
Speaker 1: in at Ingram interior offensive lineman Lsu selected with the
Speaker 1: fifty nine overall pick earlier tonight. He is going to
Speaker 1: be able to provide value because he is quick. He
Speaker 1: can put less pressure on a quarterback by being able
Speaker 1: to move. And now we have a guy Tatum that
Speaker 1: also can be in this competition battle easily. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think they're asking for him to be right there
Speaker 1: with all the others in the depth. As far as
Speaker 1: his versatility, because he played both right and left guard,
Speaker 1: mainly left guard in college, and I think we're clearly
Speaker 1: looking for more of a right guard rotation at this point.
Speaker 1: But he's a guy that brings speed. He spoke to
Speaker 1: me earlier this evening and he thinks that his greatest
Speaker 1: strength is run blocking, but he's created out as the
Speaker 1: highest SEC pass blocker last season, and so you know,
Speaker 1: I think that that versatility is something that we could see,
Speaker 1: especially as like as in on third down, like if
Speaker 1: you're in third short to tuations in urine trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, just get a yard. He said, just put
Speaker 1: me in stick down, cook behind me and let me
Speaker 1: go because I'm gonna block anyone out of the way.
Speaker 1: And I believe him. He's he's a big dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's all mentality too, right, It's like running behind me.
Speaker 1: Like every offensive lineman should have that mindset and ron
Speaker 1: understanding from the offensive side of the ball. When your receiver,
Speaker 1: it's like, throw me the ball, I'll catch it every
Speaker 1: and anytime you put it up in the air. But
Speaker 1: having that mindset as an offensive lineman, what does that
Speaker 1: tell you about the kind of guys Quacy and Kevin
Speaker 1: O'Connor were trying to bring here. Yeah, I mean we've
Speaker 1: all done this drill, the base block drill. Some people
Speaker 1: love it, some people hate it. I ain't block as
Speaker 1: a receiver, but at six three, two hundred and thirty pounds,
Speaker 1: I loved it because every dB was smaller than me.
Speaker 1: And so you know, you put that board in between
Speaker 1: those legs. You got to keep your base and it's
Speaker 1: just me versus you, and we're gonna push each other
Speaker 1: back and forth until somebody blows the whistle, until like,
Speaker 1: get your butt on the ground. And to hear Louis
Speaker 1: sne say that that, I want to break your wheel
Speaker 1: by breaking your neck. He said, this is the only
Speaker 1: sport I can hit somebody and not go to jail,
Speaker 1: and so and so. You know when you hear guys
Speaker 1: say that, and you watch that Alabama Georgia game where
Speaker 1: like Pete said, or you bought up the motion. Alabama
Speaker 1: does a tun of window dressing motions. We know that
Speaker 1: with their offensive coordinator. But Lewis Scene was in the
Speaker 1: one I tweeted. He's on the right side of the field.
Speaker 1: He has to man up the receiver going all the
Speaker 1: way across. At the snap he was able to get
Speaker 1: over there with the speed and tackle him for a
Speaker 1: four yard loss. And so when you have a guy
Speaker 1: like that that wants to hit you wants to block him,
Speaker 1: you look at the offensive lineman same thing. Like Tatum said,
Speaker 1: he wants to get a guy in front of him.
Speaker 1: Every time he pulled, he's looking for somebody to knock
Speaker 1: their head off. And I think we had so many
Speaker 1: offensive guards. I can't remember the one guy's name he was.
Speaker 1: He had a Commodo dragon in his yard. Said he's
Speaker 1: gonna knock. He's gonna punch the packers in their mouth boom.
Speaker 1: You know, we had guys that would talk about it,
Speaker 1: and then in the games we'd be like, where's the punch.
Speaker 1: You know, this is a guy who's just saying, look,
Speaker 1: I'm a football player, like I'm not trying to be
Speaker 1: a bully, but when I put my pads on, you'll
Speaker 1: see what I can do. And I I even listen
Speaker 1: to the negatives of mail Kiper. And I don't really
Speaker 1: listen to mail Kiper much because he's always wrong, but
Speaker 1: you listen to the negatives. His negatives weren't bad like
Speaker 1: his negatives were. Like one of the negatives was he
Speaker 1: gets too handsy, and you can you can teach somebody
Speaker 1: to not do it. And that's just being tired. Like conditioning.
Speaker 1: He's gonna change when he gets here. He's gonna have
Speaker 1: money now to pay for a trainer. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: his mail plans gonna change. Even though college LSU. You
Speaker 1: guys get paid a ton of millions and LSU, I
Speaker 1: know that to train and eat now we got the nil.
Speaker 1: But you know when you when you look at that
Speaker 1: the handsy, you know that's tired. That's, you know, playing
Speaker 1: long game technique exactly. You got a coach now who's
Speaker 1: gonna teach a little bit different technique. He's gonna work
Speaker 1: on on one on one. You're my draft pick. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make sure you get it right. And this is
Speaker 1: your job. You don't have class. So if you have
Speaker 1: issues with your hands and your technique, I want you
Speaker 1: here at six am. I want you here at four pm.
Speaker 1: Like he's going to have that, just like Xavier rolls
Speaker 1: with Zimmer. Zimmer had Xavier roles with boxing. Loves thee
Speaker 1: after practice work in says, so he would not be handsy,
Speaker 1: and what happened he became a pro bowler. So the
Speaker 1: negatives like if he said, oh he's he's soft, you
Speaker 1: know he messes up on blocks, he misses a ton
Speaker 1: of it was none of that. Yeah, it was he
Speaker 1: grabs sometimes. They're not heart issues that correct. Yeah. Let
Speaker 1: me say this about offensive line real quick. There's a
Speaker 1: couple of things that matter. You have to do something well,
Speaker 1: either it's run blocking or pass blocking one or the other.
Speaker 1: The second thing is consistency. And I know this from
Speaker 1: from coaching and with Brian McKinney, and we'd play somebody
Speaker 1: and Brian McKinney would play you know, Randal McDaniel esque,
Speaker 1: meaning he was grading out at ninety five ninety seven percent,
Speaker 1: and then a week later he would play a lesser
Speaker 1: opponent and grade out at like sixty. You can't game
Speaker 1: plan for that. As a coach. If I have a
Speaker 1: guy and my offensive line who I know can run block,
Speaker 1: I can scheme around that. If I know the guy
Speaker 1: also needs help in the passing game, we can scheme
Speaker 1: for that as well. And with the way this league
Speaker 1: has gone with the bare front, which is what you
Speaker 1: cover up the guard, you cover up those guys are
Speaker 1: in tight though, so you cover up. It's man on
Speaker 1: man both guards and the zero knows and you need
Speaker 1: to be big and physical inside now because he's d
Speaker 1: linemen are three twenty. First and second down you're blocking
Speaker 1: a three hundred and thirty pound man, and then third
Speaker 1: down you're blocking a two hundred and seventy five pound
Speaker 1: guy who can run a four to four. So as
Speaker 1: long as he can do something well and is consistent,
Speaker 1: then Kevin O'Connell as an offensive coordinator can help. You
Speaker 1: can help with formation, You can help with the different
Speaker 1: types of protections. We know when we do not want
Speaker 1: to put this young man in a bad position. But
Speaker 1: if one game he can he's his road grading people,
Speaker 1: and then a week later he's pass blocking like a
Speaker 1: maniac but not doing the other, then that becomes a problem.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's what he has to do. He
Speaker 1: has to just come in here and make make make
Speaker 1: him make it known to the team and to coach
Speaker 1: staff that hey, I do this, this is my bed.
Speaker 1: I might need help in the passing game, but at
Speaker 1: least when we need a yard when it's fourth and one,
Speaker 1: you know, right behind me, and we haven't had. We
Speaker 1: haven't had. When's the last super physical lineman that came
Speaker 1: through here. It's been a while, a long time, Hutchinson. Maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean it's because you know, and there's no other guard.
Speaker 1: Like Tatum said, there's gonna be a competition, and I
Speaker 1: think we thought, why, Davis, why exactly we didn't get that.
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be a fun training camp. Why
Speaker 1: she'll definitely get a chance and another guy that will
Speaker 1: get a chance to compete, And I'm just leaving at
Speaker 1: that to compete is the seventy seventh overall pick in
Speaker 1: the draft. This year Brian as linebacker from Oklahoma. Pete,
Speaker 1: you and I have had numerous discussions about this guy
Speaker 1: months ago. Yeah, he's you know the thing there were
Speaker 1: at that position, at the linebacker position, there were a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that were slated to go later that were,
Speaker 1: you know, damn good football players. It's like the running
Speaker 1: back position. That position has been devalued, I think a
Speaker 1: little bit in the eyes of a lot of teams. Um,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that when you watch him on film,
Speaker 1: you look at the height weight, and then you watch
Speaker 1: the film and you go back to the height and wait,
Speaker 1: and damn it if this kid was only two inches taller.
Speaker 1: And then you go watch the film and you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't care that this kid is six foot tall.
Speaker 1: You know, but at two twenty he's gonna hurt himself.
Speaker 1: And he watched the film again and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, he's so physical. How's he not busted up
Speaker 1: in a million people? You know, he's Um, he's he's
Speaker 1: a hell of a good football player. You know, he's
Speaker 1: he's he's around the ball, reads things well. I think
Speaker 1: Manusky's gonna get you know, get his hands on him. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and with most extremely athletic linebackers, they let
Speaker 1: their technique and their footwork slide and he could overcome
Speaker 1: a lot of the crossovers and fall steps and things
Speaker 1: like that. Um, but he's not. I think he can
Speaker 1: get that out of him. And the other thing that
Speaker 1: he does very very well like most a lot of
Speaker 1: the linebackers in this in this draft this year, uh
Speaker 1: complitz and you need that. There you go, you need
Speaker 1: that and you absolutely now he's not going to go
Speaker 1: take a center down the middle and dump him right,
Speaker 1: no question about that. How but he's got to speeding
Speaker 1: quickness TOI to cause problems with a running back. So
Speaker 1: he goes one on one against the running back. You know.
Speaker 1: Now now now we might win that. And you know
Speaker 1: that was one of the Anthony Bars things is that
Speaker 1: you put you can't block that guy with a with
Speaker 1: a running back. So for Asomo, I may not be
Speaker 1: freight training people like you know, like Bar did, but
Speaker 1: he can definitely scoot, no question about that. I actually
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you guys a question for the way
Speaker 1: that this draft has gone. The trading of the picks
Speaker 1: three out of four of the pixel far up in defense.
Speaker 1: Has it been in the areas you think are the
Speaker 1: most concerned. Are these good fits in your eyes? I'll
Speaker 1: go with you run, I'll say yeah. I mean again,
Speaker 1: Corner was one. He did it, you know, an impact player.
Speaker 1: He did it at safety, you know, because again Cam
Speaker 1: buying him. Is he a long term starter at safety?
Speaker 1: We don't know. But this kid right here, Louis Scene,
Speaker 1: seems to fit the bill. He's a heavy hitter. He's
Speaker 1: not afraid of contact. And that's what you need. You
Speaker 1: need a cam Chancellor. That Cam Chancellor. When you think
Speaker 1: about the legion of Boom, it wasn't Richard Sherman, it
Speaker 1: was Cam Chanceller. Richard Sherman just had the mouthpiece. Cam
Speaker 1: Chancellor was the boom. He was the one that would
Speaker 1: come hit you. And I think that's what Louis Scene's
Speaker 1: gonna do for that back in and he's a guy
Speaker 1: that and Pete you know, he knows this. You you
Speaker 1: make a big hit that gets everybody going, yeah, now
Speaker 1: you can come up and stop somebody in their tracks.
Speaker 1: You're running full speed and he just boom goes under
Speaker 1: him and he picks him up, lifts him, dumps him.
Speaker 1: Everybody gets decided, even the offensive guys because we see that,
Speaker 1: We're like, okay, let's go well and it hit in
Speaker 1: the fashion that he does it as well, being as
Speaker 1: I mean. But I don't think violence like a great word.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a great word. No, it's not. It's
Speaker 1: no law. I think it's it's what it is is
Speaker 1: it's a mentality rack right, it's it's it's a mentality
Speaker 1: that you have. And and and yeah, he exudes it, right,
Speaker 1: And I think Harrison's Harrison's just Harrison can hit, but
Speaker 1: Harrison's really clean. Yeah, right, you need a little I
Speaker 1: want to we need some nasty in this defense, honestly,
Speaker 1: like you really needs some we need and I'll and
Speaker 1: I remember, like it was yesterday early on in the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens game, because we were going up and down
Speaker 1: the field now, and I remember those guys during a
Speaker 1: TV time out the defense for the Ravens, those guys
Speaker 1: got together and said all right, enough's enough. And the
Speaker 1: rest of that game they played very very well. Remember Now,
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense gave up more explosive plays than anybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, they had a rough year. That is what
Speaker 1: this defense needs. You gotta have some pride about you, right,
Speaker 1: you've got to have you got to have someone that
Speaker 1: makes a hit like that and says and that shows
Speaker 1: enough is enough to everybody else and hopefully you know
Speaker 1: the you know, the easiest way to start on this
Speaker 1: team was corner, safety, defensive tackle, because we do you know,
Speaker 1: we need one more starter and um, you know those
Speaker 1: those spots and we've addressed most of them. In linebacker depth, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of backup linebackers, like backup linemen
Speaker 1: come and go through here, and not many of them
Speaker 1: have stuck. And so that's and so especially with the
Speaker 1: offensive line, because you stare at the offensive line, you
Speaker 1: got first round er left tackle, second round or left
Speaker 1: guard first round. At center, right guard has been a
Speaker 1: merry go round and a first rounder at right tackle.
Speaker 1: You can't just build an offensive line with first round picks.
Speaker 1: Atlanta tried to do it last year. They had all
Speaker 1: every one of their offensive lineman was a first round pick.
Speaker 1: At some point, you gotta develop, You got to develop talent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a lot of development come in
Speaker 1: here shortly once rookie Minicamp stars. But I think Louis
Speaker 1: Seen was the biggest surprise for me. Especially in the
Speaker 1: first round, just knowing that the cornerback position was one
Speaker 1: of the biggest needs. So I'm glad we addressed it
Speaker 1: early in the second round. But I think Brian Asamoa
Speaker 1: is going to be a guy that is going to
Speaker 1: be underrated because a lot of a lot of what
Speaker 1: people are saying is like, oh, like pezzat, he's six foot,
Speaker 1: he's only twenty pounds. That's it. That's the only complain
Speaker 1: can have about this kid. So you're just like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: if the lineman gets to him first, then the lineman one.
Speaker 1: But if a Samoa gets to the lineman first, which
Speaker 1: he usually does most of the majority of the time,
Speaker 1: then he's usually gonna win that matchup. So I think
Speaker 1: that is an underrated signing there. But I think once
Speaker 1: you put him in this Josh Hinks, Derek Keys, Marquis
Speaker 1: Johnson weight training program, this guy becomes a starter at
Speaker 1: some point. Maybe that's year two, maybe that's year three.
Speaker 1: And I think just understanding that the Vikings needed to
Speaker 1: address the defensive side of the ball, we got better
Speaker 1: on that forefront, but there are some some glaring needs
Speaker 1: still to address tight end. It's one for me and
Speaker 1: we'll go around the room to just see what other
Speaker 1: needs the Vikings need. But tight end for me, and
Speaker 1: I know there are some guys out there. But and
Speaker 1: then cornerback. You can never ron. You said this earlier
Speaker 1: at the in our and our instant reaction that's from
Speaker 1: Vikings dot com. You said the Vikings need corner like
Speaker 1: they need to breathe, and you can never have enough.
Speaker 1: And at seven or eight cornerbacks on the roster right
Speaker 1: now for the Vikings, isn't enough. And Patrick Peterson he's
Speaker 1: the only proven cornerback on this roster. Andrew boob Juiar
Speaker 1: love his swag, love his playmaking ability, but we still
Speaker 1: need more. I mean yeah, I mean we've been doing
Speaker 1: Vikings game and they live now there's our eighth year.
Speaker 1: And so I remember always talking to Pete about this.
Speaker 1: We'd look at the who's gonna start or who's gonna
Speaker 1: dress for the game, and how many corners or is
Speaker 1: Mike's are gonna keep? How many corners are the Lions
Speaker 1: gonna keep? How many you know, and it's always like eight,
Speaker 1: nine or ten. When you think about special teams, you
Speaker 1: think about all the things you need for corners, for gunners,
Speaker 1: hold up guys and then just depth, Like when you
Speaker 1: have six guys, you know, a guy runs a goal
Speaker 1: round all of a sudden, Xavier Rhodes tasts his hamstring
Speaker 1: A you gotta come out. Next guy coming in, You're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they about to attack him like every other.
Speaker 1: And so when you think about that, now, Patrick Peterson
Speaker 1: being older, can he go an entire game without you know,
Speaker 1: cramping or something or just neating a breather because he
Speaker 1: just ran on a go route with with Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: or somebody. Um, that's when you can bring in another
Speaker 1: guy like Andrew Booth. You can bring Cam Buying him
Speaker 1: in to play corner. You can bring in now um
Speaker 1: um Channon Sullivan to play you know. So you're adding
Speaker 1: guys and and that's why I think you still need
Speaker 1: to go get like a there's a Kobe Bryant out there,
Speaker 1: there's a Josh Job, there's a Tariqi Wool and, like
Speaker 1: I said, even in the lationship, was still out there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he's the number one corner on the board right now,
Speaker 1: eighty five. He's ranked eighty fifth overall prospect yep. And
Speaker 1: it was not taken. So that's a guy that if
Speaker 1: the vikings and and again, man, people throw rumors out
Speaker 1: all the time while guys don't get drafted or you know,
Speaker 1: this guy's a you know, bad character guy. You know
Speaker 1: smoked weed last night. I saw him outside, whatever it
Speaker 1: might be. But you know, when you look at all
Speaker 1: these guys still out there, there are some good corners, cataracts,
Speaker 1: there's some good guys out there, and so that that's
Speaker 1: why I think corner like against the chairman, fifth round pick,
Speaker 1: there there are a lot of them. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta have It's not a death sentence, no, And like
Speaker 1: I said, you you always need special teams guys. And honestly,
Speaker 1: as a receiver, I'm not putting my hand up to
Speaker 1: go be gunner. Like if I got to do it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: am I gonna play the wing? Onna punt sure? I'm
Speaker 1: the fourth receiver on the browster. I don't want to
Speaker 1: do it. I don't want to do it, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it because I want to get paid. But corners,
Speaker 1: that's what they do, like, yeah, put me at put
Speaker 1: me a gunner, put me at the wing. I'll run
Speaker 1: out and tackle somebody because we don't practice tackle anymore.
Speaker 1: In the receiver dbs or how you do it. That's
Speaker 1: when so many teams run with ten when they come
Speaker 1: out there, and then you have to, you know, strategically
Speaker 1: look at the rest. Like like we talked about tight end,
Speaker 1: I didn't another good special team's position. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: there's some good ones out there. To kid Jake Ferguson
Speaker 1: out of Nebraska, he's still out there, you know, or
Speaker 1: no Sharky Wisconsin, and you know, you look at him
Speaker 1: and the only reason I know that name is because
Speaker 1: he played against the Gophers and I hate him. But
Speaker 1: now he's done with college. So it's six five, two
Speaker 1: fifty five. That's a big kid, you know. And he
Speaker 1: was one of the better tight ends in the Big ten.
Speaker 1: Like that was PJ Flag's nightmare. How am I going
Speaker 1: to cover this guy? And you look at him versus
Speaker 1: Boy Mafe who was the fortieth pick. He blocked boy
Speaker 1: pretty well Wisconsin. So I mean that's that's that's a
Speaker 1: guy where the vikings are like, Okay, who's our blocking
Speaker 1: tight end. Who's gonna be our bigger body tight end?
Speaker 1: He's out there. So there's a guy. Go ahead, Well,
Speaker 1: I'll say, you know you have Johnny Munt, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's the block. Yeah so, but I agree with
Speaker 1: you this offense, at least the running game that we've
Speaker 1: seen now you know, Connell could change it, not but
Speaker 1: the running game we saw at the with the rams
Speaker 1: that depended on the tight end correct tone a ton,
Speaker 1: just like the forty nine ers. So now we'll CJ.
Speaker 1: Ham now be a be a tight end. I mean
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like, you have this, you have
Speaker 1: this talent and CJ. Hamm, what do you do with him?
Speaker 1: It's pretty easy to integrate, you know, the tight ends
Speaker 1: a wing or you move over six feet and he's
Speaker 1: a fullback. Right so, but a great blocking tight end
Speaker 1: will help our running game more than any guard. I
Speaker 1: think we can we can find and throw in there
Speaker 1: because the way defenses are played now, so many bodies
Speaker 1: now on the line of scrimmage with the cutbacks and
Speaker 1: with the bend backs and all those other things that
Speaker 1: they do. You know, you have a two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty pound pass receiving pass catching tight end out there,
Speaker 1: you go, now you your jobs will go out there
Speaker 1: and kick out von Miller. You're gonna be like what
Speaker 1: euse me? Excuse me? Right, you know, and and so
Speaker 1: you need someone who's gonna just be like, all right,
Speaker 1: well you line up and go ahead and do it,
Speaker 1: you know, and we we also, I think this team
Speaker 1: also needs a good we need Unfortunately the big guys
Speaker 1: who are great athletes are hard to find late. But
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, yeah, because right now, you know who's
Speaker 1: going to be that if we do run the five
Speaker 1: man front, who's going to be that other three technique
Speaker 1: and or nose tackle in this defense? And those techniques
Speaker 1: are going to change quite a bit, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean frog stance, meaning all four on the ground, reading
Speaker 1: the block in front of him instead of just jetting
Speaker 1: up the field. Now you can reduce one side, you know,
Speaker 1: cover up the lineback a little bit, let him play
Speaker 1: like a regular three technique or an end. But you know,
Speaker 1: you need some you kind you need some hogs in
Speaker 1: the middle. You know, there's a guy likes so well,
Speaker 1: he's a wide body ballerinam You were thinking wide receiver
Speaker 1: or I was thinking wide receiver earlier. I mean I
Speaker 1: think that there's a value in that. And right now,
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I even mentioned bow Melton. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say if he can return punts, this
Speaker 1: team does not have a punt returner number one, And
Speaker 1: I don't care about how you return. You got to
Speaker 1: be a great decision maker and you got to catch
Speaker 1: the damn ball when it's punted. Tier. Yeah, Danny Green
Speaker 1: would always say that all I care about on punt
Speaker 1: return is that when the whistle blows, it's our ball.
Speaker 1: That's your job. But we don't have that punt return
Speaker 1: on our side for a while, right, I mean kickoff return,
Speaker 1: we got that figured out. Who's going to be the
Speaker 1: number two running back too? I mean Alexander. I think
Speaker 1: there's opportunity there for somebody's contra year for him for sure. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're fine. Yeah. I just think I think
Speaker 1: that there's so much talk about this offense being so
Speaker 1: set that for me, I'm not you know, I have
Speaker 1: no inside information of whatsoever. This is purely on conjecture
Speaker 1: right here. But but seeing someone like I think I
Speaker 1: mentioned in the in the uh the recap that we
Speaker 1: did that Calvin Austen is a two two out well
Speaker 1: in comparison, and Kevin is looking for toys in the
Speaker 1: toy chest. He's looking for these guys out there, and
Speaker 1: if he doesn't see it right there, seeing a more dynamic,
Speaker 1: shifty guy that he can just kind of pluck and
Speaker 1: play and maybe even return punts things like that. That
Speaker 1: might be somewhere they go to next because they have
Speaker 1: picked up so many defensive pieces and it's not done obviously,
Speaker 1: but picking up somebody like that could be really appealing
Speaker 1: to Kevin, who's trying to create this illusion of complexity.
Speaker 1: And this was a top ten offense last year easily. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we you know we have we have pretty much
Speaker 1: the same guys. I think our top three wide receivers.
Speaker 1: You mentioned kJ Osborne je well in BC's on the
Speaker 1: rehab and you have. It's just that I agree with
Speaker 1: you one hundred percent on the punt return slash wiggle guy, right,
Speaker 1: the gadget guy, and that could be BC's called a
Speaker 1: fame if he can return punch. He did it a
Speaker 1: few years ago. Hey yeah, we got some more receivers
Speaker 1: here on this roster, but hey, BC is more valuable
Speaker 1: and special teams and that's I mean, we know that
Speaker 1: special teams gets you on the plane. If you can
Speaker 1: get on the plane, that's all that matters, because anything
Speaker 1: can happen after that. But I think all that depends
Speaker 1: on how good this offensive line is going to be
Speaker 1: this year for Minnesota Vikings. Just from talking to Kevin
Speaker 1: O'Connell earlier this year, back in March, I had asked him,
Speaker 1: I said, you know, with everything, all these motions, all
Speaker 1: this zone reads and sweeps and all this illusion of complexity,
Speaker 1: does this make the job easier on the offensive lineman?
Speaker 1: He said, no, it's the exact opposite. The offensive linemen
Speaker 1: are gonna have to work harder because we're gonna use
Speaker 1: them to make the defense work harder. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: our offensive lineman running one way, the players going the
Speaker 1: opposite way. They're gonna have to think on their toes
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to do a little bit more
Speaker 1: in order for this entire offense to be gelling all
Speaker 1: at once. And to that, to that point, I don't
Speaker 1: recall that their offensive line had a lot of changes,
Speaker 1: because it seems to be a thing now where a
Speaker 1: guy plays guard one one game and then plays left
Speaker 1: guard the other game, and then moves over to center
Speaker 1: and this guy's starting to tackle. Some of that was
Speaker 1: COVID related. I get that, but you talk to offensive
Speaker 1: lineman of just even ten years ago, they're like, you'll
Speaker 1: line up and you know, and you can count on
Speaker 1: what the guy, you know, what the guy in the
Speaker 1: right's going to do, and let you know, there's there's
Speaker 1: a value to that. And so if you know whitworth you.
Speaker 1: He he was around forever, Um Haverstein was around forever.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're all there. They had a very i
Speaker 1: think experienced, in most in most cases offensive line that
Speaker 1: and that's what they have to do. And I hope
Speaker 1: they just line these guys up. When's the last time
Speaker 1: we went through training camp with the same offensive line
Speaker 1: that we started with? Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's been unfortunately for a number of reasons, it's it's
Speaker 1: been musical chairs. And so I don't think I can't
Speaker 1: remember the last time we've went to a training camp
Speaker 1: with this many veteran offensive lining, like with all this
Speaker 1: def veterans, And I think that makes for a healthy competition.
Speaker 1: And you just look at just the opportunity for a
Speaker 1: young guy and and ed Ingram, even if he doesn't
Speaker 1: play right away, he's going to have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: learn from so many veterans and an offensive lineman coach
Speaker 1: that has done it already for the Denver Broncos and
Speaker 1: now it only makes this entire offense better. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think I'll listen to is when Kevin O'Connell, you know,
Speaker 1: some of the things he says, he when he makes
Speaker 1: comments about the type of offense and the type of
Speaker 1: plays he wants to get for Justin Jefferson, I look
Speaker 1: at it. I equated to basketball. You know, Sean McVey
Speaker 1: talked about his offense as a basketball team. He talked
Speaker 1: about movement, quick setting, picks, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: That's the thing where I felt like, and I would
Speaker 1: bring this up in a pregame show all the time,
Speaker 1: I felt like the Vikings got away from the basics.
Speaker 1: It felt like Gary Kubiak and Clint Kubiak were always
Speaker 1: trying to create these huge, big momentum plays versus letting
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins work a lather up. If you look at
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and even go back to Jared Goff, it
Speaker 1: was throwing slants, it was throwing hitches, it was throwing
Speaker 1: bubble screens, tunnel screens, and then they would get into
Speaker 1: their offense or double shadows and then deep post with
Speaker 1: the you know comeback. And I think that's where Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 1: And again, you never know because it's this first time
Speaker 1: actually taken over. This was mcveay's offense for the past
Speaker 1: couple of years, and so he's gonna take over. Is
Speaker 1: he gonna do the same thing? Most likely, because his
Speaker 1: goal is I want to do the same stuff. I
Speaker 1: want to use Justin's usage like Cooper cup Um, and
Speaker 1: I think that's where the Vikings office is gonna go.
Speaker 1: And to the offensive guard point. If you think about
Speaker 1: the Rams, like Pete bought up their run game, it
Speaker 1: was it was precated on movement. They would move guys
Speaker 1: and they would try to count and they can count.
Speaker 1: If we got three guys here, run to the three
Speaker 1: man side. If it's four guys here, they can run
Speaker 1: away from the four. And we would always ask Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins or bring it up in the pressers, Hey, how
Speaker 1: much can Kirk Cousins change? Not really, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's a problem if a quarterback can't come to the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and count and say, okay, I should
Speaker 1: not run the play this way, or I should not
Speaker 1: pass the ball into this coverage, and he's just stuck
Speaker 1: checking to a run or he's just check going opposite.
Speaker 1: Opposite is the easiest thing in the world. You can't
Speaker 1: always do opposite because every team knows that. You know,
Speaker 1: if you say something's up, something it looks Differenty're like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's gonna run the other and and that's gonna be
Speaker 1: I think the toughest hurdle for Kirk is just knowing
Speaker 1: the protections and knowings hot and not hyper focusing on
Speaker 1: whoever that hot. That's what the loose. So if you
Speaker 1: think about Jared Goffin what McVeigh did, it's the loose huddle.
Speaker 1: As long as they're not completely huddled and everybody, everybody's
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage. He can talk to Kirk
Speaker 1: up to fifteen seconds. And I think that was what
Speaker 1: Jared golf got it. They got to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with that, and everybody thinks golf wasn't that good. But
Speaker 1: McVeigh he's spoon fed it. Well you stay away, what
Speaker 1: do you think do you think he's that good golf?
Speaker 1: But McVeigh is McVay smart. He's like, look you got
Speaker 1: I got, I got twenties, or I got ten seconds
Speaker 1: to talk you through this quick. Just getting a loose huddle.
Speaker 1: Let me see what they're gonna do. And then they say, boom,
Speaker 1: here's two plays, get to the line, scrimmage and then
Speaker 1: he goes up there fifteen seconds. He can do all
Speaker 1: this stuff. Boom, check it, run to play. And I
Speaker 1: think Kirk's smart enough. And that's Parry. We don't start
Speaker 1: doing what they do in college. And that's the big
Speaker 1: picture of a game. It's a little of the money
Speaker 1: Tam Dave left. But yeah, I mean, but that's that's
Speaker 1: what McVay did. That's what O'Connell's gonna do. He's gonna
Speaker 1: he's gonna help Kirk. He's gonna talk him through it.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, he said, he said,
Speaker 1: I want Kurt to have control of this offense. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the key. If you can't give your
Speaker 1: quarterback control, you need to get a new quarterback, you know,
Speaker 1: And we can't be afraid if that happens. This is
Speaker 1: a new regime, you know, this is not a regime
Speaker 1: who signed up for Kirk. Now, he did have them
Speaker 1: in Washington and blah blah. But yeah, I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see what they can do with this. Like you said,
Speaker 1: I think add a receiver, a jitterbug guy deep diving
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty three. The guy you were just bringing up,
Speaker 1: Jelani Woods because Pete liked him. Indian up his coach draft.
Speaker 1: And there's a guy by name and Darnielle Washington. If
Speaker 1: you watch the National Championship game, he's the same number zero.
Speaker 1: He's six seven, two seventy and caught a touchdown in
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone because he's bigger than
Speaker 1: anybody covering him. And so we're not looking forward into picks.
Speaker 1: But everybod keeps talking about if you're making all these
Speaker 1: trade why aren't you trying to get twenty twenty three picks?
Speaker 1: Well guys like that or why because next year? Everbody
Speaker 1: talking about the quarterbacks next year. Everybody's talking about the
Speaker 1: receivers next year and the tight ends next year. So
Speaker 1: I mean, we definitely want to win a Super Bowl now,
Speaker 1: but I mean you got to give Quacy and Kevin
Speaker 1: Tying tight end. Go watch March Madness. Right ends are
Speaker 1: playing Champion Park High School. Hey, trying to play football
Speaker 1: in high school. He might be he might be the
Speaker 1: next Antonio Gates Tatum. We got five picks tomorrow, what
Speaker 1: are you most looking forward to. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: get a chance to say this on the recap, so
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you asked me. I am very curious
Speaker 1: to see the strategicy. This is very late in the
Speaker 1: day for me. I was in Vegas at six o'clock
Speaker 1: this morning. So, um, I'm looking forward to the strategic
Speaker 1: moves of this front office because I think that they
Speaker 1: don't know if they've necessarily surprised everyone with the way
Speaker 1: that they've moved up and down the board and kind
Speaker 1: of had a whole like who's on our dance card,
Speaker 1: let's do this thing. Um. I'm just I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be very interested to see how creative they're going to
Speaker 1: try and get in these last couple of rounds, because
Speaker 1: I don't I think it's a bit of a trend
Speaker 1: in this draft that all these teams are moving like this.
Speaker 1: It just feels like a little bit more movement than normal.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like this front office maybe this
Speaker 1: is maybe because we don't know, this is the way
Speaker 1: that this will operate for the next couple of years. Well,
Speaker 1: it definitely hasn't been that expensive to move around, then
Speaker 1: I think that's what's done. Yeah, that's because you know,
Speaker 1: you didn't have, you know, a hand It's kind of
Speaker 1: like you had a handful of guys up top, and
Speaker 1: then everybody else was like, hey, they're all like second
Speaker 1: third round picks, and so I think the moving around
Speaker 1: is not as expensive as it's been in the past
Speaker 1: with all the picks that Quasi has had and what
Speaker 1: he said about what he said about seventh round picks,
Speaker 1: which I hold a grudge because I was a seventh
Speaker 1: round pick, which he was right, you know, we're terrible.
Speaker 1: Um just saying you know not, you know, a thousand
Speaker 1: of them aren't worth a first round or so It's like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: he's not just gonna throw darts at the end of
Speaker 1: the day tomorrow because he's tired and bringing three seventh
Speaker 1: round picks. I think he's gonna try to put something
Speaker 1: together and move up. Yeah, that's I would think there's
Speaker 1: at least one other guy out there he's got They
Speaker 1: have their eyes on. Oh, for sure, we've named a lot.
Speaker 1: Hopefully Quacy is listening to this podcast, which I know
Speaker 1: exactly like call these draft picks getting his purple vest, Taylor.
Speaker 1: They're adding sleeves to the vests zip to the tie
Speaker 1: ratio was elite than the Browns color tie. Right. That
Speaker 1: is very talking, like you share a building with the guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you would think I shared a room with him too.
Speaker 1: There are different wings of the castle. Yeah. Well, look,
Speaker 1: the Vikings have five draft picks tomorrow. That's what we
Speaker 1: do know. One thing we don't know is what they'll
Speaker 1: do with them. But that's what makes this thing fun.
Speaker 1: So Vikings fans, we'll see you guys tomorrow night. For
Speaker 1: Ron Johnson, Pete Versus, Tatum Everett, Producer Jay Nelson. My
Speaker 1: name is Gabe Henderson. Thank you guys for either staying
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