1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtis and I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: The House has elected to authorize an impeachment inquiry into 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: President Biden. Dan Schwartzman has the details in New York and. 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian, it has just come down. They have authorized 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: an impeachment inquiry into President Buying. The vote, of course, 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 3: going strictly on party lines, all two hundred and twenty 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: one Republicans voting in support, all two hundred and twelve 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: Democrats voting against. Authorizing the impeachment inquiry now guarantees that 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 3: the investigation will go on well into twenty twenty four 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: byen of course, running for reelection, most likely against former 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: President Donald Trump. Speaking of Trump, US District Judge Tanya 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: Chutkin has granted former President Trump's request to pause the 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: twenty twenty election obstruction case, which is scheduled for trial 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 3: in March, as Trump presses the claim for immunity against 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: criminal charges. The former president is appealing Chutkin's earlier ruling, 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: which denied him immunity for events that took place while 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: he was president. The judge has said her order to 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: pause the case was just to hold on the schedule, 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: and depending on how quickly the immunity issue is resolved, 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: the original dates could still be revived. Japanese Prime Minister 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: Fumio Kishida telling reporters in Tokyo earlier today he is 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: reshuffling his cabinet. Reports have emerged that he would be 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: firing four ministers after a scandal rock the ruling Liberal 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: Democratic Party. The four ministers on the chopping block, including 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: the Chief Cabinet secretary and Trade Minister, are part of 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: a group that have been accused of hiding income from 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: fundraising events. Kishida says the changes to his government will 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: be announced on Thursday. In a news conference in Tel Aviv, 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: Israeli Defense Minister Joav Galantz says the country will continue 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: its war against Hamas until the terror organization is dismantled 33 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 3: and all remaining hostages are brought home. Galan's comments coming 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: on the heels of growing international condemnation of civilian casualties 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: in the Gaza Strip, including President Biden highlighting Israel's loss 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: of international support due to what he called the quote 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: indiscriminate bombing that takes place. Elon Musk, who moved to 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: Texas during the pandemic is planning to start a university 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: in Austin. More on that from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 4: That's according to tax filings for the billionaire's latest charity, 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: called The Foundation. The new institution seated with a roughly 42 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: one hundred million dollar gift from Musk. We'll start with 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: a STEM focus primary and secondary school. According to an 44 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 4: application to the IRS for the tax exempt status obtained 45 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 4: by Bloomberg, once it is operating, it quote intends to 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: ultimately expand its operations to create a university dedicated to 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: education at the highest levels in New York. Charlie Pellett, 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: Bloomberg Radio. 49 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: Thanks Charlie, Global News twenty fours a day, whenever you 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: want it with Bloomberg News. 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 5: Now. 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: I'm Dan Schwartzman, and this is Bloomberg. 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: Let's take a look now at the hour's top business stories. Well. 54 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: As Doug mentioned earlier, the FED has left interest rates 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: steady and gave its clearest signal yet that the aggressive 56 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: hiking campaign is done. The dot plot implies no rate 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: hikes and in fact seventy five basis points of cuts 58 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. Fedschair J Powell, however, insisted that 59 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: the projections are not a preset plan, as he said, 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: inflation is still too. 61 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 6: High, we are prepared to tighten policy further if appropriate. 62 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 6: We're committed to achieving a stance of monetary policy that 63 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 6: is sufficiently restrictive to bring inflation sustainably down to two 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 6: percent over time, and to keeping policy restrictive until we're 65 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 6: confident that inflation is on a path to that objective. 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: Still, pal said that the FOMC has begun discussing when 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: to ease policy. He said most FED officials now see 68 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: that risks to price growth as broadly balanced. 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: Stateside. Hedge funds and brokerage firms have some new requirements 70 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: on certain transactions involving trading in US treasuries. Today, the 71 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: Securities and Exchange Commission voted to require all transactions involving 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: so called repurchase agreements to use clearing houses to complete them. 73 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: Here is SEC Chair Gary Gensler. 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 7: There is a lot of borrowing leverage in the treasury market. 75 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 7: Bringing things into central clearing can address that in a 76 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 7: number of ways. One is the clearing itself does something 77 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 7: called multi party netting, which lowers a lot of risk 78 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 7: in the system. 79 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: That is se SEA chair Gary Gensler. Now, the Commission 80 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: said the new central Clearing Mandate would apply to treasury 81 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: transactions in both the cash and repurchase markets, and the 82 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: new rules could also bolster oversight of highly leveraged positions 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: such as the so called basis trade. Those trades, by 84 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: the way, do use the repo market. 85 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: Brian Well City Group is offering to pay some staffers 86 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: a portion of their bonuses early if they agreed to 87 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: leave the company voluntarily. Let's get the story from Bloomberg 88 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: Sally big. 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 8: Will the city can make less layoffs as part of 90 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 8: this broader restructuring that it's unveiled in September, And it's 91 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 8: also hope that staffers will see this is the lesser 92 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 8: of two evils if they kind of cut and run 93 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 8: by taking part of a guaranteed bonus. Now, if they 94 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 8: get caught up in, that's better than getting caught up 95 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 8: in the likely and anticipated extended cuts next year, when 96 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 8: they could end up with no job and no bonus. 97 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sally bake Well City Group has already cut more 98 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: than three hundred senior management roles as part of its 99 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: September revamp. 100 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: We go to Tesla next, the company is recalling more 101 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: than two million vehicles. This comes after the top US 102 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: Auto Safety Regulator determined Tesla's driver assistance system autopilot, doesn't 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: do enough to prevent misuse. Here's Bloomberg's Craig Trudeau. 104 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 9: This dates back actually to August twenty twenty one, when 105 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 9: the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration open an investigation into 106 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 9: autopilot after several crashes into first responder vehicles, so there 107 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 9: would be an existing craft scene that the Tesla would 108 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 9: come upon and run into, say, police car, firetruck and 109 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 9: in a Since then, actually NITSA has opened a separate 110 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 9: defect investigation into autopilot. There's been all sorts of scrutiny 111 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 9: into these systems going back years. 112 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: That is Bloomberg's Craig Trudell. Now, Tesla said it's expecting 113 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: to begin deploying an over the air software remedy to 114 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: take care of the situation. 115 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: Brian, Well, with all the support that China's economy appears 116 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: to need, it is a little surprising that China's November 117 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: credit growth remained slow. Let's get the story from Bloomberg's 118 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: Yvon Mann in Hong. 119 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 10: Kong, aggregate financing rose nine point four percent compared to 120 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 10: the same month last year. That follows a streak of 121 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 10: single digit growth recorded this year and contrast the double 122 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 10: digit expansion that was normal in previous years. We Corporate 123 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 10: borrowing and the slow rate of money supply expansion also 124 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 10: worried economists. The collapse in the housing market has undermine 125 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 10: credit demand for both developers and households. China's annual Economic 126 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 10: Policy meetings said the expansion of credit and money supply 127 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 10: should match growth and inflation targets. Some economists say that 128 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 10: might be a signal for more room to cut interest 129 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 10: rates and banks reserve requirements in the months to come. 130 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 10: In Hong Kong, I'm von Mann Bloomberg Radio. 131 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: Chinese property developer Country Garden has surprised creditors. The company 132 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: has made a full yuan bond repayment. More from Bloomberg's 133 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: Juan Wong in Hong Kong. 134 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 5: Country Gardens Entour Unit says it is repaid a one 135 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 5: hundred and eleven million dollars bond in full. The debt 136 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 5: had a put option due Wednesday. It added in a 137 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 5: filing Tach Engine Stock Exchange that the debt would be delisted. 138 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 5: We reported earlier that Country Garden Holdings representatives had remitted 139 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 5: funds to fully repay the notes. Outstanding principle and interest 140 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 5: sources say it did not provide any reason for the decision, 141 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 5: but with this full repayment, Country Garden will avoid a 142 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 5: first evault on a local yuan bond in Hong Kong. 143 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 5: Joined Wang Bloomberg Radio. 144 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: Joanne, thank you. Ten minutes now past the hour. This 145 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis and my colleague 146 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: Paul Allen joins us now from Sydney. Our guest is 147 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: John Taylor, Stanford University Professor of Economics and also Hoover 148 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: Institution senior Fellow for a closer look at the FED decision. 149 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: Mister Taylor, thank you so much for being with Uschi 150 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: Jpal said that the FED is now well into restrictive 151 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: territory that is totally new just two weeks ago. He 152 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: said that it would be premature to say so, so 153 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: what has happened in the interim. 154 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 11: Well, I think the language has changed, But what is 155 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 11: important is they didn't get of any indication they were 156 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 11: going to move away from the goal of two percent 157 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 11: inflation and They reiterated that a couple of times, and 158 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 11: so that means I think that's an important thing for 159 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 11: the markets to understand. They're not going to go above two. 160 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 11: We're going to keep it a tune. That's something that 161 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 11: they've agreed upon. The statement that they are a little 162 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 11: bit on guard, I think they are always on guard, 163 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 11: and I think that what's new to me is that 164 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 11: they've focused a little bit more on making sure that 165 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 11: there's a possibility of raising rates. 166 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 12: Yeah, so it's still not off the table. And one 167 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 12: other thing that didn't change is Jpal saying, look, it's 168 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 12: still too early to to clear victory over inflation. When 169 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 12: you look at the inflation picture, where do you think 170 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 12: the fit is in terms of the fun. 171 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 11: Well, first of all, don't forget that it was a 172 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 11: year and a half ago or so the inflation rate 173 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 11: got over nine percent and the interest rate then was 174 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 11: only twenty five bases points point twenty five, and so 175 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 11: they've made quite a bit of adjustment since then, and 176 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 11: inflation has come down, I think partly as a result 177 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 11: of that. So the question is now, and it's gone 178 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 11: so high that it's zero point twenty five or five 179 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 11: point five, is the federal funds rate. So the question 180 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 11: is when they will reduce it. He made it clear 181 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 11: that they wasn't right away, would be next year sometime, 182 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 11: and many of the prognosticators are indicating that it will 183 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 11: be a decline sometime next year, and I think there 184 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 11: will be of course, that requires the inflation rate to 185 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 11: come down a bit. 186 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: Should we be a little surprised that policymakers didn't push 187 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: back with some of these market bets, and it could 188 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: have done so with the dots, because we all know 189 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: that the dot plot is not really a plan, it's 190 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: just projections. And it seems like since they didn't push 191 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: back with you know, the dot plots, maybe suggesting that 192 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: there was still you know, some hikes to come, that 193 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: that might suggest that they really are confident they are done. 194 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 11: Well. I think they are confident they're done. They're hoping 195 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 11: that the inflation rate, don't forget, this two percent goal 196 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 11: is still there. And they've made some projections that the 197 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 11: interest rate will be coming down in twenty three and 198 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 11: twenty five and twenty six, but it's still not all 199 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 11: the way to too and so it's a little more 200 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 11: gradual than your life. But I think that's true. One 201 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 11: thing that's good about the meeting is they've said they'll 202 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 11: be rate lowers, lower rates next year. They even said 203 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 11: to some extent through the dot plot how much that'll be. 204 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 11: But the main thing is they didn't indicate and indicate 205 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 11: a reduction right away, and I think Powell made that 206 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 11: pretty clear. It's not really ready for that. 207 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 12: Yeah, so we've got the dots indicating seventy five basis 208 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 12: points of cuts next year, but the market pricing in 209 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 12: one hundred and fifty. Why the divergence. Is this hope 210 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 12: on the part of the market or is there a 211 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 12: credible reason for the disagreement here? 212 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 11: Well, the market could be there's so called a tailor 213 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 11: rules named after May's thirty years old, and the FED 214 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 11: publishes that and their reports and they're talk about it 215 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 11: all the time. It could be that the market is 216 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 11: looking for a little bit more on inflation and the 217 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 11: Fed has indicated it's going to happen. Fed it may 218 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 11: be a little more cautious. I think it's okay for 219 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 11: the Fed to be cautious. Seventy five basis points or 220 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 11: so in twenty twenty fours is quite a bit. They 221 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 11: might have to do more than that, but didn't say 222 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 11: it'll be less than that or more than that. They 223 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 11: say that's the guess, and that's come from the dot plots. 224 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 11: It's it's really not a commitment of any way, shape 225 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 11: or form, but it's a direction of which I think 226 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 11: they're likely to go. 227 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: So it's not a massive about face. But I wonder 228 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: whether or not with this kind of change that it 229 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: would worry some investors that all of a sudden the 230 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: FED has changed to this degree. Do you think that 231 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: that might get reflected in market action? 232 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 11: You know, I don't think it's if you've looked at 233 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 11: it carefully. The FED has not changed that much. The 234 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 11: chair has pretty much been on the same page at 235 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 11: least for the last five or six days. The notion 236 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 11: that they're going to reduce rates is pretty clear. They've 237 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 11: stayed that. The notion that the current rate is five 238 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 11: point two five to five point five is still there. 239 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 11: And so I think in some sense this is a 240 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 11: not a surprise. But you're right it might be some 241 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 11: people were taking it that way. 242 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: But John, I mean, we just two weeks ago, just 243 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: before the blackout period. I mean, here's the direct quote 244 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: from mister Pelle. It would be premature to conclude with 245 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: confidence we have achieved a sufficiently restrictive stance. Yet today 246 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: he said we're well into restrictive territory. Is that not 247 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: a big change. 248 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 11: You know? I think the fact that he clarified that 249 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 11: we may have to go the other way if you carefully, 250 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 11: he did say that, And to me, it's not as 251 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 11: big a change as you like, as you might think. 252 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 11: I actually do rely on this so called Taylor rule, 253 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 11: which is published there quite a bit, and they've followed 254 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 11: it for a while. They were awful while now they're 255 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 11: getting back to it. They're very close at this point, 256 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 11: and according to what the projection is, it's going to 257 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 11: continue that way through the next year and a half. 258 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 11: So I think that's the thing to keep in mind. 259 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 11: That FED as self keeps it in mind. Terryes referred 260 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 11: to that several times, but not today. 261 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 12: Does what Brian say. Is what Brian's saying, though an 262 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 12: indication of a possible communications breakdown. How is the Fed's 263 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 12: communication being in your view? 264 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 11: I think it's actually improved, if you like. Right now, 265 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 11: with this rate, a quarter five and a half or 266 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 11: so is about where it should be given the inflation rate, 267 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 11: and given the state of the economy. It's beginning to 268 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 11: come down. Remember it was not that long ago the 269 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 11: inflation rate was very high nine point one percent. Now 270 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 11: it's come down quite a bit. It's not a two, 271 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 11: it's not a two, and we have to make sure 272 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 11: if that has not changed its commitment to a two 273 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 11: percent goal. And so it's moving in that direction. And 274 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 11: so I think there's not as much change if you 275 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 11: read through the lines that you're indicating, they're basically on 276 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 11: their way down. They're doing it in a managed way. 277 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 11: I think they could do a little faster, but they're 278 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 11: doing their own managed way, and I think that's the 279 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 11: right direction to go. 280 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: Well, I asked about whether the market might react in 281 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: a certain way. We did see a big dropping yields. 282 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: Now that doesn't necessarily mean that people are extremely nervous, 283 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: but with the tenure here ten years right at four 284 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: percent now, I mean, it's quite shocking that in weeks 285 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: we've moved from five percent a little above five percent 286 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: to four point zero one percent on the tenure the 287 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: two year. I can understand it's really tied to FED policy, 288 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: but this is a pretty big move down to four 289 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: percent for the tenure. Do you expect that this is 290 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: kind of an overshoot at the moment or is this 291 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: just just the beginning of a lot more. 292 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 11: Yeah, let me say I hope, I hope it's not 293 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 11: an overshoot. I think ten years is quite a ways out, 294 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 11: and you can think about the rate. Maybe it should 295 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 11: be as somewhat higher, but not much. Who knows ten 296 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 11: years from now. But here you you've got to be 297 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 11: very careful to take over the rest of the world 298 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 11: in new account. The ECB has just begun to come 299 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 11: down as a new governor of the Bank of Japan. 300 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 11: There's a question of Latin America, and so the Fed 301 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 11: has been wise to begin to lead the way. Remember 302 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 11: it just just a year and a half ago they 303 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 11: were at point to five, and so it's quite a change. 304 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 11: They're well behind the curve. Now you could argue they're 305 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 11: too far ahead, but I think they're just about right. 306 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 11: And if they continue on this mode then it should 307 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 11: it should work out quite well. 308 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 12: So we've got a two year of four point four 309 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 12: to six, the ten year four oh one, so still invented. 310 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 12: When do you see that disinventing. 311 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 11: I think it'll happen over the year. If the FED 312 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 11: continues with the path they've indicated, and I would I know, 313 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 11: I said it a couple of times already, But the 314 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 11: so called tailor rule is out there and it's in 315 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 11: their proplications and they all know about it, and other 316 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 11: central banks do too. And so what has changed I 317 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 11: think in the last year and a half is a 318 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 11: more adherence to that. We have not seen the discrepancy 319 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 11: that existed two years ago. They're really pretty close now, 320 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 11: and as the inflation rate begins to come down a 321 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 11: little bit further, then they'll they'll they'll continue with that 322 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 11: reduction in the rates. 323 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: So we've talked a lot about the FED, not so 324 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: much about the economy. What do you think about the 325 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: path of the economy here? Because, you know, tied to 326 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: my earlier questions, some people might say, ooh, I mean, 327 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: maybe they see something that we don't see. How do 328 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: you feel the economy is churning along. 329 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 5: At the moment? 330 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 11: I think the economy could be doing better here. You 331 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 11: need to think about fiscal policy as well as monetary policy. 332 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 11: Need to think about regulatory policy as well as monetary policy. 333 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 11: You think about our overall policy with respect to the dollar, 334 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 11: with respect to our internationals. But I think the opportunity 335 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 11: for the economy to grow more rapidly is there, and 336 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 11: I think that should be the focus. Has a fit 337 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 11: continues with its efforts to bring inflation down, there should 338 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 11: be a renewed effort to keep growth high. And I 339 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 11: think that has to do with regulatory policy. It has 340 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 11: to do with fiscal policy. It's not just monetary policy, 341 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 11: but Montree policy has to be consistent with that. 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