Speaker 1: Man, you already know. Man.
Speaker 2: Today we got the great Tony Allen win us today
Speaker 2: in KG certified.
Speaker 3: Yes, get it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 3: What what you been doing to kill it?
Speaker 1: Right? First? T first? T kill him?
Speaker 3: Man, tell me your thoughts from Doc Rivers Man?
Speaker 2: Where you shock when they fired him? What's your thoughts
Speaker 2: when you saw that?
Speaker 3: It was kind of shocking at first?
Speaker 1: You know, we got a winning records. Yeah, one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty four wins, eighty four lost or something like that.
Speaker 1: I just think changed hard pretty much threw him under
Speaker 1: the bus thing. Yeah, when they asked him that one question,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and that interview was kind of shaky. As
Speaker 1: soon as I saw that interview, I was like, yeah, Doc,
Speaker 1: Doc probably on his way. But more so than anything,
Speaker 1: we going on resume.
Speaker 3: Man, he'll win her. He's approven winner.
Speaker 1: He's been definitely been my inspiration coming into the league. Father,
Speaker 1: like one of those coaches slash fathers give you the
Speaker 1: real off the court. He's gonna give you the real
Speaker 1: on the court. And I think he pretty much tough notes.
Speaker 1: You know, you tough note. A lot of people can't
Speaker 1: take that, you know what I mean. Guys like us,
Speaker 1: we take that and they fire us up. You know
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, you know, it go the other
Speaker 1: way man, And I think that's what that's what position
Speaker 1: here in.
Speaker 3: Do you think you can get another job somewhere?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He said it in his in
Speaker 1: his exit me. You know, I got a winning record.
Speaker 3: Let's throw that out that first.
Speaker 1: I mean, I got a winning record. So yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure somebody around but I think in this
Speaker 1: today's league, he probably might have to soften up a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 3: You know, be more, be more.
Speaker 1: Hey, how you doing? Brother?
Speaker 3: You okay?
Speaker 1: Today? You know he might have to be one of
Speaker 1: them type of guys a little floor, yeah, man, because
Speaker 1: being being tough nose on him. Man, you know how
Speaker 1: Doc is, he could he could get frustrated at times.
Speaker 1: And you know that's what it is though, ta man.
Speaker 1: You know the schedule, man.
Speaker 3: First off, I was shocked, Yeah, I was shocked.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought Philly out of all teams straight
Speaker 2: up from where we come from, Philly, let's just go
Speaker 2: back ten years. We're making ten years up. Matter of fact,
Speaker 2: five years. Nobody wants to think right, Well, man, Philly
Speaker 2: came out of a dark place of losing a bunch
Speaker 2: and then waiting on him beat and then losing some more.
Speaker 2: Or the Kawhi shit was a gut punch, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And culture, man, culture, I don't think
Speaker 2: today's owners, I don't think really understand or or management
Speaker 2: in today's world, especially in sports. No one wants to
Speaker 2: wait on anything. Everybody want instant gratification if it ain't
Speaker 2: one in two years, you know. And I felt like
Speaker 2: what Doctor was trying to at least it appeared to
Speaker 2: be trying to established some culture there, you know, like
Speaker 2: when you think of Philly, you come in there, you
Speaker 2: play the seventy six, and you used to already know
Speaker 2: you play a They was gonna be tough, you know. Coleman,
Speaker 2: you had, you know what I'm saying, Tyrone, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, Matt Gott you had, you had an idea
Speaker 2: of of what you were stepping into or what kind
Speaker 2: of you know, and he would I felt like, you
Speaker 2: start to shafe with that, you know, and be, you know,
Speaker 2: being MVP this year, taking another step, being responsible playing
Speaker 2: I think, having a responsibility to himself, playing a lot more.
Speaker 3: At least it.
Speaker 1: Came off like that.
Speaker 2: I was, man, Joe, I was mad from the perspective
Speaker 2: of you got to give coach a chance to be
Speaker 2: like something on the stove. Man, it's got a similar
Speaker 2: it's gotta it's gotta turn, it's got to curate.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: And I just feel like, man, the management gave just
Speaker 2: gave up too soon. But I sit back and I
Speaker 2: look at you know what the free agency looks like
Speaker 2: for coaches. You got money, Williams out here, you got
Speaker 2: Nick Nurse out here, you got budget. It's a lot
Speaker 2: and two. Phoenix to me is a Doc River style
Speaker 2: team ready to Doc is a winning coach. Now, I
Speaker 2: think if you get the right pieces with a guy
Speaker 2: like Doc, who were there with players that like that
Speaker 2: are in Like you got stars like Booker, you got
Speaker 2: stars like Katie. Now you got stars like CP. You
Speaker 2: got eight non that Doc is a great person for eight.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking of out of him. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think Doc can understand. You know Docs man, You
Speaker 2: know Doc, I had Man, and I see Doc like
Speaker 2: nurture all of us, from yourself to Baby to Me,
Speaker 2: to Peed to Perk to Ron to Rondo, like come on,
Speaker 2: bron bro, like like you know, like we all had
Speaker 2: our challenges. And I just think that I'm thinking about
Speaker 2: the aiding part and to be able to come out
Speaker 2: of where he's you know, agent's gonna need like some
Speaker 2: experience to come grab him and take him out of
Speaker 2: us and take him into a new part and then
Speaker 2: get real excited then come back into the season. He's
Speaker 2: gonna have to have someone in his life to kind
Speaker 2: of reintroduce the love and the fun of basketball. And
Speaker 2: then I feel like here he'll bring a better product
Speaker 2: to Phoenix next. But I'm in my head thinking about
Speaker 2: what should have, could have, would have. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, I'm also thinking about the free agency of
Speaker 2: all the coaches. Have you ever seen a free agency
Speaker 2: like this of an abundance of really good coaches?
Speaker 3: Can you remember?
Speaker 1: No? I mean I thought winning was everything, you know,
Speaker 1: and today to today's league is more so, you know,
Speaker 1: the players getting the opportunity to be the voice, you know,
Speaker 1: and when you got a guys like Nick Nerves, Mighty Williams,
Speaker 1: you know, they they they resumes I certified, But how
Speaker 1: they connected to the players.
Speaker 3: Right and right and and and it's it's it's the winning.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you look at it now, there's
Speaker 1: so much imagtry going on with the fashion and all
Speaker 1: us playing the part of today's game. It's kind of
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird to me. But if I had
Speaker 1: to go with Phoenix and in the Doc fit, I
Speaker 1: would agree to that. Like I like that one as well,
Speaker 1: cause you got Kevin Durant. You know, he understands he
Speaker 1: want to ring. You know, g a a coach like
Speaker 1: my I mean coach like Doc who's actually been to
Speaker 1: the Promised Land. He had cats like yourself, you know,
Speaker 1: guys that want that love the game.
Speaker 3: And yeah Cep as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so these guys, these guys are are are
Speaker 1: fuel to win. And I think you buy in with
Speaker 1: the right system, you know, and and Doc do a
Speaker 1: good job of putting guys in places where they could
Speaker 1: they can blossom, you know. And uh with with a
Speaker 1: cat like Booker and and and I just like you said,
Speaker 1: like you said the other day, I think we talked,
Speaker 1: and you say, uh, they need a four to six seven.
Speaker 2: They need they need a four to six sale mate,
Speaker 2: they need a bench, dof they gotta get a benched
Speaker 2: off this Phoenix. There's worst places to live. You can
Speaker 2: get a bench.
Speaker 3: Man. I did tell you they need a I thought
Speaker 3: that was a funny thing.
Speaker 2: See shit, you know what I'm saying, But they do.
Speaker 2: They need a focing sale mate, straight up. But I
Speaker 2: want to see Doc if anything, you know, shout to
Speaker 2: Doc May. I thought they did a great job of
Speaker 2: getting those guys ready. And yeah, you know, the better
Speaker 2: team won and it is what it is and you
Speaker 2: got to keep on moving and uh, they got to
Speaker 2: live and learn from this. And I'm sure Doctor end
Speaker 2: up somewhere at least, I hope. So with all the opportunity,
Speaker 2: with all the opportunities that's out here for all the
Speaker 2: coaches to pick, Like, what is the most attractive job
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 3: You got?
Speaker 2: You got the Phoenix job open, Joannice doesn't. I mean,
Speaker 2: Giannie is a superstar. He doesn't have a coach right now.
Speaker 2: Booker doesn't have a coach right now. Katie ain't got
Speaker 2: no coach right now, and b he ain't got a
Speaker 2: coach right now. Like what's the most what is the
Speaker 2: most enticing job comes to having that one superstar?
Speaker 1: You won't obviously if it was me. Honestly, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the bucks. I'm looking at a guy who's gonna
Speaker 1: who's gonna lead by example, I'm looking like I'm looking
Speaker 1: at every guy like gonna hold everyone accountable. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you look at this this series, you know, if
Speaker 1: he don't get hurt, I don't think we ain't even
Speaker 1: looking at the Miami, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: things of that nature. So if the sexiest job to
Speaker 1: me will definitely be the Bucks.
Speaker 3: Man they did not think about Docs in the Bucks,
Speaker 3: definitely be the Bucks.
Speaker 1: And you know it too.
Speaker 3: Doc loves superstars like gans.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like he uh, he will,
Speaker 2: he will, They will gravitate and connect on the whole
Speaker 2: other level. Has a bit of an old school to
Speaker 2: me when he has an old soul at least at
Speaker 2: least he feels like, at least it seems when he's
Speaker 2: around or whatever, very dedicated, very dedicated, and he holds
Speaker 2: everybody accountable. Man Milwaukee, you don't see him trying to
Speaker 2: work out in the summer with everybody be cool. He
Speaker 2: got that old school type mentality on him. And I
Speaker 2: think Doc can coached that man. That's that fit right
Speaker 2: up his alley. You could talk to him. I don't
Speaker 2: know if do want to be in that cold like that.
Speaker 2: You know, Doc trying to definitely dog gonna run the
Speaker 2: Phoenix running Milwaukee, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, Booker, Booker book ain't bad either. Can you
Speaker 1: curate book book a book of one of those cats
Speaker 1: to who's who seemed who seemed like impressionable? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: he gave you that, he gave you that. I'm here,
Speaker 1: I'm here the win. I ain't here for all the
Speaker 1: other stuff. I'm here the win. Now. They ain't even
Speaker 1: get money a whole season with KD. Man and that
Speaker 1: was and I thought that was kind of shady with
Speaker 1: the new management. Got to figure new management coming in,
Speaker 1: they cleaning house. You know. I was part of one
Speaker 1: of those situations in Memphis, Orlando Hollins. He came in.
Speaker 1: We were a ceed. We beat the one seed, uh,
Speaker 1: the Spurs. They had Mono uh, Tim Duggan, all those
Speaker 1: guys kawhi. You know, we end up beating those guys.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was coach Hollins who instilled at
Speaker 1: uh the motto of the grit.
Speaker 3: And the grind, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And before you know it, when new management came in,
Speaker 1: they was like, hey, we go in another direction. And
Speaker 1: that's how he became you guys, coaching brook coach.
Speaker 3: It was all him.
Speaker 1: Man, I can remember times, you know, he kind of
Speaker 1: reminded me of Doc, you know, to where you know
Speaker 1: it was time. I remember, I remember this one series
Speaker 1: we were down two against the Clippers. It was then
Speaker 1: two against Clippers, this is going to the Western Commerce
Speaker 1: Finals made and he came in the locker room and
Speaker 1: he pretty much got on everybody here, z Bo, you know,
Speaker 1: I need you to get the rebounds that matter, not
Speaker 1: not not the ones to help you that. And TA
Speaker 1: they not guarding you out here? What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Mike Conley, you got Chris Paul punking? You Mark, You're
Speaker 1: not the bonus out here? What are you doing with
Speaker 1: all this passing? I need you down that block. And
Speaker 1: when I tell you guys took that to heart and
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, we're gonna respond. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna shift off and go the other way. And this
Speaker 1: all started from our first ship being together with knowing
Speaker 1: that we could we could actually win in this league,
Speaker 1: beating the one seed, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: when we got to What's com Finals, I just felt
Speaker 1: like Doc was that I mean not Doc Coach Hollas
Speaker 1: was that grint and grand piece to spark us man
Speaker 1: because we fed off of his scolings, we fed off
Speaker 1: of his his energy, and when he wanted it, we
Speaker 1: wanted it just as much as he wanted it. So
Speaker 1: those type of coaches I think, you know, I think
Speaker 1: Doc got that same kind of feel, and he belonged
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee if you ask me, though, that's just me.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: When you when you look at both dynamics state they
Speaker 2: go together. I think Money would be actually good in Philly.
Speaker 3: Money has a past in Philly. I actually like Nick
Speaker 3: Nurse too. Man.
Speaker 2: Actually, you know, I actually like Nick Nurse when he
Speaker 2: had Kawhi because now you see him have a superstar
Speaker 2: and how to I don't want to say how to
Speaker 2: micro manage, but yeah.
Speaker 3: I was, I was.
Speaker 2: I was a bit disappointed in I thought would continue
Speaker 2: to make some major, major majors and he just I
Speaker 2: don't know if he peaked out. I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is, but yeah, yeah, I like Nick Nurse and
Speaker 2: his coaching. I think he's good for the younger generation too.
Speaker 2: You know, these younger generation wants to let me cook.
Speaker 2: They want to be you know what I'm saying, exhausted
Speaker 2: ball and all that and he's with it, but he
Speaker 2: puts it in the style to where it seems like
Speaker 2: it's fluid throughout.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to see all those guys have
Speaker 2: a landing spot.
Speaker 3: But yes, it should be. It should be good narratives
Speaker 3: for the summer. Man.
Speaker 2: We should see what you see and then you know,
Speaker 2: it'd be great to be able to ask him this.
Speaker 2: But I wonder how long Doc wants to coach. You know,
Speaker 2: he's bus in the game for well, I think he's
Speaker 2: I think he won another ring, man. I think because
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of the situations that he
Speaker 2: fell out of, I don't think he really got fast shots, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And this this time around, I think that's gonna end
Speaker 1: it out one time with another powerhouse like he had
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I think that that'll fit him well.
Speaker 2: Man, I mean, but man, man's three man, three years?
Speaker 2: Like come on, man, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Like? Like?
Speaker 2: Man, it's it's this instant gratification. I hate this ship
Speaker 2: man straight up, because you can't because you can't build
Speaker 2: nothing in the instant, you know, like three three years
Speaker 2: to kill him?
Speaker 3: Come on, man, no, take your latch Man.
Speaker 1: I can remember, like I said, playing with the Celtics,
Speaker 1: you know, having that rough season, tearing my knee up,
Speaker 1: and Doc looking at all the young guys and then
Speaker 1: you know, throwing away to pick coming to get a
Speaker 1: big ticket.
Speaker 3: Man I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: They actually gave him time and he had a longevity
Speaker 1: in that and that you know in Boston. So I
Speaker 1: mean it's just take. It's gonna take an organization. Like
Speaker 1: they say, trust the process. I don't think they trust
Speaker 1: that process coach. They trust the presence big free agency
Speaker 1: for these coaches. Though normally you hear about the big
Speaker 1: free agency for for the players. But this I think
Speaker 1: with these coaches, with these winning records, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a big free agency for them.
Speaker 3: Have laying the spots. Fire seller.
Speaker 2: If you are James Harden, he has a player option,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And yeah, he got a
Speaker 2: chance to do you know, test the free agent. He
Speaker 2: wants another big deal. If you are, if you are
Speaker 2: advising him, what are you telling them?
Speaker 1: I'm looking at James Harden like this, man, what you
Speaker 1: the major market?
Speaker 3: You made your money.
Speaker 1: You definitely one of the top fifty players in this game.
Speaker 1: You can change the game.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Anytime the league have to take out rules for you
Speaker 1: not to elevate. He birthed all the stepping backs left
Speaker 1: and right the reach. Remember he was getting doing that,
Speaker 1: We was doing that, but he took it to another
Speaker 1: whole other level. So now you look at that and
Speaker 1: like y'all pretty much did everything. I have been All
Speaker 1: Star Game and have been All NBA. I think it's
Speaker 1: really time to trust to stay with stay with that team. Man,
Speaker 1: you didn't. You didn't went over there and changed your game,
Speaker 1: led the league and assists and it can't be about
Speaker 1: the money this time. And then I've been here and
Speaker 1: talk to him going to Houston and rebuild with the
Speaker 1: young guys. I don't I don't think if you, if
Speaker 1: you go that we out. I don't think he seees
Speaker 1: about renting the ring.
Speaker 3: I really do.
Speaker 1: But if he's stay over there with MB, the dude
Speaker 1: speaks out and saying, you know what, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do something over where I'm trying to I'm trying to
Speaker 1: put this on my resume. I need that goal plaque
Speaker 1: on my resume. And looking looking at his career, man,
Speaker 1: you can't take nothing from him. You can't take nothing
Speaker 1: from He put a lot of work in this league, man.
Speaker 1: So if it's me, I don't think he gets the backs.
Speaker 1: But I think you should be willing enough to say, hey,
Speaker 1: y'all get some more pieces in here.
Speaker 3: We do something and be get healthy.
Speaker 1: I come back, more in shape, more better in my game,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think we can get something done here.
Speaker 3: But you give him three four year deal. That's the
Speaker 3: hard part. You know.
Speaker 1: I never want to, you know, take them from nobody's pockets.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: But if he about team and winning and he could
Speaker 1: sit down with the organization and you know, get that money,
Speaker 1: you know, and put it, put it to the point
Speaker 1: where you know, I deferred, get some more players in here,
Speaker 1: you know, try to you know, try to try to
Speaker 1: do something for the team, to let it be understood
Speaker 1: to the world that you want to go win.
Speaker 3: You're trying to win.
Speaker 1: And because the perception on you right now, like I say, honestly,
Speaker 1: if you go to Houston, it's gonna clear out.
Speaker 2: Say you about this money, man, James need to win
Speaker 2: a ring to solidify it.
Speaker 3: Mmm. I believe so, I believe to stamp it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just for him to to him to be as
Speaker 1: one of the greats, to be talking about as one
Speaker 1: of the greats, I believe he need a ring league.
Speaker 3: So like I say, you got a.
Speaker 1: Lot of cats who've done big things in this league,
Speaker 1: but don't get that conversation, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want that conversation when he's done playing.
Speaker 3: I believe that ring of stamp and.
Speaker 2: You don't hear too much about James Harden being his
Speaker 2: effect on this generation. And when we go back and
Speaker 2: we break the science up where like the old guys
Speaker 2: start getting mad at the young guys. Is when James
Speaker 2: Harden started putting out footage of him stepping back with
Speaker 2: the lone leg and doing something that stepping over, he
Speaker 2: didn't hit me with that.
Speaker 3: Lord, he got the Orthodox he brought he is.
Speaker 2: He is the father of the Orthodox style, and the
Speaker 2: whole generation of basketball has converted over.
Speaker 3: And then Janni's, Janna's has probably had.
Speaker 2: The euro since he's been in the league. We forget
Speaker 2: jana Is in the league, like what four years in
Speaker 2: the league.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He was in the league
Speaker 3: for a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember remember few good games against saying, then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden we leave the league. This whole
Speaker 2: group of people leave the league, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, these players blossom into something else.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, you never hear James Harden's name
Speaker 2: in the birth of this style that we're in. But yeah,
Speaker 2: he's I want to I want to stand for master,
Speaker 2: grandfather of all this or the step backs or the awkward.
Speaker 2: I don't even call it awkward. I'm just calling an orthodox.
Speaker 2: That's what you know, Because Dirk was Dirk was on
Speaker 2: some of the same some some of the same style
Speaker 2: off the one leg step to the left. You know,
Speaker 2: we've been talking north south so much that when somebody
Speaker 2: goes east west, you're looking like what and the degree
Speaker 2: of difficulty in making these shots, that's what another month
Speaker 2: for go. Don't understand, bro, Bro, you take a step back,
Speaker 2: that means you got to get the ball even more
Speaker 2: up and over the rim when you're going backwards. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's just a basketball engineer in the science too.
Speaker 1: Like you know, he's getting older too, So I'm saying
Speaker 1: getting older three year deal. He didn't get over a
Speaker 1: three year deal. That's what I'm saying, like a three
Speaker 1: year deal, understand it. See where you're at. You know,
Speaker 1: get Joe l some time. Yeah, you know, I ain't
Speaker 1: really good at gym numbers, man, but put your gym
Speaker 1: hat on right now. Put your own hat on that
Speaker 1: with he gotta put your own him take a three
Speaker 1: year deal. But he got to pick up that option.
Speaker 1: You know, he took a pay cut on that deal,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you can decline it,
Speaker 1: so I get it. The option is thirty five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: talking about this year's option, it's thirty five. I give him.
Speaker 1: I give him a three years one twenty. But man,
Speaker 1: that'll put him at thirty seven at the end of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's raped.
Speaker 1: That's the window right there.
Speaker 2: That's it. But yeah, I think he gets a deal.
Speaker 2: I think he stays in Philly. If you're a smart man,
Speaker 2: he's with probably the best player in our league or
Speaker 2: top two man, and you can rock that bro, and
Speaker 2: he's you know what I'm saying, he's determined that that
Speaker 2: you're your best player is determined, so you can ride
Speaker 2: that and and he can get your ring. Put some
Speaker 2: more pieces around here. He can he can get you
Speaker 2: to a ring. So yeah, I don't know, but I
Speaker 2: can't wait for the summer to get here already, man,
Speaker 2: the narratives already set up to be to be what
Speaker 2: they are. So yeah, let's stay let's stay tuned, and
Speaker 2: the Spurs get the number one pig. Were you shocked? No,
Speaker 2: I wasn't shocked. I wasn't shocked.
Speaker 3: It wasn't either. You know what's happened.
Speaker 1: Look, I got I got one for you, Pete Killer.
Speaker 3: You know what we didn't mention that one time last
Speaker 3: year the Spurs.
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to see it anything, nothing that
Speaker 1: they won't play on the Spurs team right now.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I don't even know the uh uh what's tires?
Speaker 3: What's tires? Last night? Jones?
Speaker 2: Jones, he has a brother. I think that place for
Speaker 2: the Spur that's my best one. That's apologize and Johnson kid. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's nice. I like that kid, Right, I apologize to
Speaker 2: the Spurs nation all that shit, right, fuck it right
Speaker 2: At the same.
Speaker 3: Time, man, nobody they kept up with that.
Speaker 1: And they started off remember when he started off strong? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they fell.
Speaker 3: Off right right right, right strategy.
Speaker 1: The Spurs are the sneakiest.
Speaker 2: Listen, Pops, he slid out, chillis out of that right and.
Speaker 1: Boom when they got the number one pick.
Speaker 2: Actually, I thought our therapy and I sat here one
Speaker 2: time and thought, uh, women in Yanna, if I message
Speaker 2: whole name, I apologize Victor. I'm gonna call it as
Speaker 2: Victor hit man, right bro. I thought he was going
Speaker 2: to Charlotte, and then Charlotte got down to two. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, Ship, what his surprise? What you shocked
Speaker 2: that the Spurs got the number one pick.
Speaker 3: I definitely was surprised.
Speaker 1: But you look at you know, the Spurs history and
Speaker 1: drafting those number one picks. Man, I think I think
Speaker 1: that's a good landing spot for him.
Speaker 3: I think they're.
Speaker 1: Gonna teach him the great part about professionalism, teach them
Speaker 1: good nutrition. I think they gonna teach them how to belong,
Speaker 1: the insight of longevity.
Speaker 3: I think all that.
Speaker 1: Coach over there does is they just groom well pros
Speaker 1: like good good pros and couldn't no other place he
Speaker 1: probably want to be in his first year, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You don't want to go nowhere city
Speaker 1: too big, you know, you get used to the night life.
Speaker 3: You want to go nowhere.
Speaker 1: You know, you wanna go somewhere where it's all about
Speaker 1: basketball and I think with those championship banners that's in there,
Speaker 1: it give him a good ceiling to reach, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be inspired. Timmy's in the area he
Speaker 2: can pull up. Yeah, Pop is around that. The Spurs
Speaker 2: coaches one of them coaches that you know when you
Speaker 2: talk Celtics, when we always talk about you know, Lakers,
Speaker 2: when we talking about you know players, older players. The
Speaker 2: Rockets got a great coach of the Bulls got a
Speaker 2: great culture, but older players coming back. The Spurs, you
Speaker 2: don't really hear too much about their culture, but they
Speaker 2: have a very very very deep winning culture in its habits.
Speaker 2: And it's similar to how pat Riley kind of grooms
Speaker 2: you when you come to Miami. Miami, pat Rolly grooms
Speaker 2: you a certain way to be able to live and
Speaker 2: play in Miami.
Speaker 1: Would you agree with that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: You know, you know right away what you can and
Speaker 1: can't do in Miami.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Right, And that's why players are successful when they go
Speaker 2: down and they play hard, they have a culture.
Speaker 3: Spurs are no different.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I think I think this kid, Victor is, like you said, man,
Speaker 2: perfect situation. San Antonio is like a It's like a
Speaker 2: big small city. You know what I'm saying, It closes
Speaker 2: early and ain't too you know, obviously it's it's a
Speaker 2: city and they got great fan base.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's gonna learn quick too, man.
Speaker 2: And like you said, man, they're so used to the
Speaker 2: having the number one type prospect like this. It helps
Speaker 2: that Tony Parker has continuity with us. I think that's
Speaker 2: gonna help a lot. He has a lot to be
Speaker 2: able to give to him in the city and now
Speaker 2: and then too, I watch I see TV playing a
Speaker 2: big party in all this.
Speaker 1: It let it start getting weird, and you know, cause
Speaker 1: you gotta go.
Speaker 2: Through some you know, some some battles and ups and
Speaker 2: downs in peaks and valleys. You go start seeing that
Speaker 2: brotherhood step in and that big brother coming in, you know,
Speaker 2: keeping the motive, keeping them motivating, and then just telling them, hey,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like you're gonna see some
Speaker 2: of that some of that cognuity come in and help
Speaker 2: him with that. But yeah, it's impressive about his game
Speaker 2: though he he could, he could put.
Speaker 3: It on the floor.
Speaker 1: Do you start at the point That was my question, like, man,
Speaker 1: are you gonna position him at the three the four
Speaker 1: or the five. That's the question. That's the new question.
Speaker 1: You know, normally then those seven foot guys coming automatically
Speaker 1: put him at the center spot. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he can guard because you gotta turn around. You got
Speaker 1: a guard.
Speaker 3: Now, can you guard a three?
Speaker 1: He long is ship like God damn like look and everything.
Speaker 1: I really got to guard that. You switching on the
Speaker 1: pick of roll all the time. You can't be a three.
Speaker 1: And then you're on the right side of the zone.
Speaker 2: And we like this and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: he's seven seven playing the three man being man.
Speaker 3: I saw him hug Rudy Gobert. He looked, he looked
Speaker 3: boying him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's skill set is at all time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm eager looking. I want to see him in the summer.
Speaker 1: I want to pull up on them work out. I
Speaker 1: want to see the workout. You know, to workout, tell
Speaker 1: you everything you know, especially in the summer time. Ain't
Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't the whistle, It ain't summertime. Summertime.
Speaker 2: One of them, Grover, one of them. I'm not to
Speaker 2: call Joe Bullers off. I have to call an impact
Speaker 2: Joe right, Joe b got him.
Speaker 3: I know you.
Speaker 2: I know you're working out. I know he's working out somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what certified? Find out where young fell at. Man,
Speaker 2: We're gonna pull up on him, check him out. See
Speaker 2: what you okay? So the Portland Trail Blazers have the
Speaker 2: third pick. The reason why I'm bringing this up out
Speaker 2: of anything is because they probably have one of the
Speaker 2: biggest assets of the league other than James Harden. And
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with the free agent list right now,
Speaker 2: but if and when this player and Damian Lillard ever
Speaker 2: hits the market, he will be the most probably the
Speaker 2: most off the player.
Speaker 3: Right you agree with that? Yeah? I agree.
Speaker 2: So if you're Portland, you're still trying to build around this, right.
Speaker 2: If you're Dang, what do you do?
Speaker 3: Man? You out of that?
Speaker 1: Killer, I'm definitely out of this. It's about town. They
Speaker 1: aim to go and get them some some hardware.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: If I'm him, I'm going to link up with two
Speaker 1: stars somewhere like Philly. I try to force my way
Speaker 1: in Philly.
Speaker 3: Man. So that means you gotta take a pay pay cut.
Speaker 3: You gotta dam have made.
Speaker 1: A bag already, man, Like these cats were talking about
Speaker 1: to May over three hundred something menion, Man, I mean
Speaker 1: not even talking there endorsment.
Speaker 3: We ain't pocket watching or nothing.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if the ultimate goal is to win
Speaker 1: the championship and put that on your resume, man, I
Speaker 1: don't see why not. Man, And I use you as
Speaker 1: an example, big fellaw. I mean you made a bag yourself.
Speaker 1: I mean, just to look at the opportunity for yourself
Speaker 1: to be in Boston. I mean you've been on that.
Speaker 1: You've been on that.
Speaker 3: Man. I looked at it too. Man, it's time for
Speaker 3: him to chase. It's time for him.
Speaker 2: To get on because he's gonna look up and three
Speaker 2: four years is gonna be going.
Speaker 3: It's gonna take you two years to lock in with something.
Speaker 3: What years this for Dame? What year is this for Dame?
Speaker 3: Let me check. I think this is eleven or twelve, right,
Speaker 3: it's getting up there. It's not eleven seasons, eleven next season.
Speaker 3: So it's time come on, man, it's time to it's
Speaker 3: signing the lead.
Speaker 1: It's this contract. Me.
Speaker 3: Let me just mention he has one, two, three.
Speaker 1: Four years or five more years left because his new
Speaker 1: contract kicks in and it's forty five million and forty
Speaker 1: eight million, then fifty sixty three million. Y'all know how
Speaker 1: today's game is. If you're one of them guys, you
Speaker 1: could you can force yourself anywhere. Man, and with this
Speaker 1: being the perfect time to do it, while they got
Speaker 1: to pick so high.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's so.
Speaker 1: Many teams that's that's willing to take that pick. And
Speaker 1: with the with the options you got out there, you
Speaker 1: got to catch what school h Henderson. You know he's
Speaker 1: a he's a hot commodity. You replace that with that.
Speaker 1: You know, you got a lot of got Brandon Miller
Speaker 1: from Alabama.
Speaker 3: It's time for you to start over though.
Speaker 1: I mean, Poland need to Poland need to sit down
Speaker 1: with Dame and Dame need to get somewhere and well
Speaker 1: he can win, man, I want to see him win.
Speaker 1: I done had plenty battles with him, so I know
Speaker 1: what he capable of doing. I know he capable of
Speaker 1: getting fifty at any night.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: If you are if you are Portland, what do you
Speaker 2: do with the pick? Do you trade the pick or
Speaker 2: do you actually try to you know, you do you
Speaker 2: trade the pick and bring in whatever, see what the
Speaker 2: value is of that. Try to bring in something to
Speaker 2: help him or do you is it time to move
Speaker 2: on just to start fast?
Speaker 3: I mean I believe so.
Speaker 1: You look at what they brought with him last year,
Speaker 1: you know, and they didn't pretty, they didn't do too
Speaker 1: much nothing last year. We don't have to script about
Speaker 1: what four or five years now. Yeah, and it's looking like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this gonna be the same thing, Dame, if you if
Speaker 1: you stay, who's who's excited to run to Portland?
Speaker 3: Player wise?
Speaker 1: I don't think there's too many plays after that's really
Speaker 1: round to do that. So at this point, with the
Speaker 1: w with the way the stars get the chance to,
Speaker 1: you know, push theyself and force they self places and
Speaker 1: and Potland old 'em. They're right, poland Portland know he's
Speaker 1: been loyal this whole time. I think they are willing
Speaker 1: enough to say, you know what, if you wanna get somewhere, dang,
Speaker 1: let us know the place and we'll do anything in
Speaker 1: our power to help. I think he got that much respect.
Speaker 3: Think so yeah, I mean, Dame time right, he do
Speaker 3: not want enough?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I wanna see him go somewhere. I wanna see him
Speaker 2: go somewhere and play and play for one and play
Speaker 2: for a couple of shit, just because of the work
Speaker 2: and his body of work and what he's done for
Speaker 2: the league.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I hate that we even gotta, you know,
Speaker 2: even talk about this, but it ain't there's some big
Speaker 2: brother shit man, or what's your uh? If you if
Speaker 2: you're pulling up on ja and you seeing what's your
Speaker 2: first you know, you know it's crazy, you know that.
Speaker 2: So before we start at this, I'm not hit to
Speaker 2: defend anything. But whenever I hear anything, I always think
Speaker 2: of there's two sides of everything, right, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, where it's always two right.
Speaker 3: Anyways, So the.
Speaker 2: First thing I thought was when I saw him with
Speaker 2: the gun, I thought, Man, why.
Speaker 3: Is he carrying a gun?
Speaker 2: You know, like that's the first thing I thought, Like, Man,
Speaker 2: it's something in his personal life got him rideled or something.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know, I went there and I'm thinking to myself, like,
Speaker 2: there's no one doing this. He's doing this, man, And
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know, I know the culture.
Speaker 2: I know, I know I know a lot of young
Speaker 2: boys mindset these days and what the culture is, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and how and how everything is outside. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just want to know your thoughts on what you
Speaker 2: thought when you saw when you saw a young fella
Speaker 2: in the video and stuff, and if you poured up
Speaker 2: on him, what would be the conversation. First thing, First,
Speaker 2: I definitely tell them, you know, the guns, and I'm
Speaker 2: definitely not you know, one of those things you play
Speaker 2: with obviously, you know, I'm assuming you know he's in Memphis, you.
Speaker 3: Know, first forty a city, I believe.
Speaker 1: I just I just think if he got that fear
Speaker 1: of holding a gun, I think he should be in
Speaker 1: much need of security, you know. But it's the new
Speaker 1: millennium thing. I'm assuming, you know, being excited around your
Speaker 1: friends and you know, just just that excitement with the
Speaker 1: new contract. You know, I get it, I get all that.
Speaker 1: But more so than anything, you gotta be, uh, you
Speaker 1: gotta be properly playing in your movements and when you
Speaker 1: out and about man. And if you definitely think you
Speaker 1: need a gun or you need places to go that
Speaker 1: you need a gun, might not need to be going
Speaker 1: to those places. And I say that from experience. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't been in the fast shal of things myself
Speaker 1: that I wish I could take back my self, you know,
Speaker 1: So experience is the is the best teacher. And I
Speaker 1: think about him going through all this, He's definitely gonna
Speaker 1: be able to, you know, have a movement that's in
Speaker 1: a better guided situation.
Speaker 2: People leave making a xamp out of him.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's been it's been broadcast on all
Speaker 1: the websites and all the you know TV shows, as
Speaker 1: we see they campaigning half a season. Definitely a chunk
Speaker 1: of money being lost. And this is definitely gonna be
Speaker 1: a humbling experience for him. It's his reaction to all
Speaker 1: this gotta be more so in action, you know. Obviously,
Speaker 1: he gotta get the right people around him. That's I
Speaker 1: know that sound cliche, but more so than anything, you
Speaker 1: need some cats around you.
Speaker 3: That's gonna let you know.
Speaker 1: When you when you, when you're wrong, when you bogus,
Speaker 1: when you when you pretty much need to, you know,
Speaker 1: be a man about certain situations, and a grown man
Speaker 1: at that, you know, and uh, a lot of this
Speaker 1: immature acts, you know, it's just comes from you knowing,
Speaker 1: being wealthy, being being young, not.
Speaker 3: Knowing, not knowing.
Speaker 1: Nobody in his family has been here, nobody nobody, I
Speaker 1: mean he probably he is the ass paid family members.
Speaker 1: So it's like he's the boss. So a lot of
Speaker 1: people just ain't ain't giving them the right right guidance to,
Speaker 1: you know, tell him about itself. That's something.
Speaker 2: This is when I think the league needs the big
Speaker 2: brother Big Sister program right here.
Speaker 3: Mmm feel me.
Speaker 2: This is when I think the NBA and the w
Speaker 2: NBA needs the big brother. And this is what I
Speaker 2: think the fraternity and the sororities are for real shit
Speaker 2: Like it's nothing like hearing it from the old g
Speaker 2: You ought to see when Jordan's sit down.
Speaker 3: He ain't got all us right here and we might talk.
Speaker 3: Man might be talking so much.
Speaker 2: Man, you you will forget your day or you will
Speaker 2: forget your schedule, and you'll be so locked into what
Speaker 2: what Bro saying that you.
Speaker 3: Just, you know, you forget.
Speaker 2: And I think it needs to be one of those
Speaker 2: situations where I think when young people have more access
Speaker 2: around the big brother or the OG or whatever they
Speaker 2: consider to be their influence, someone that they can listen to,
Speaker 2: someone they can take a script from. Cause a lot
Speaker 2: of these kids, I'm just gonna be a one and
Speaker 2: we're hunting about it.
Speaker 3: A lot of these kids that don't have a script.
Speaker 2: And what I mean by dad is that this is
Speaker 2: their first time being outside this, they first time having
Speaker 2: something like this and their dad and they mom too,
Speaker 2: So they don't know what they doing. They just doing
Speaker 2: whatever the the agent is suggesting, whatever.
Speaker 3: They think is clever.
Speaker 2: And you know, you damn then think you were untouchable
Speaker 2: until you went into situations like this or when the
Speaker 2: og pull up that's been through this and being able
Speaker 2: to sit you down and talk about you know, and
Speaker 2: take you through the whole script, then you look at
Speaker 2: it different cause then everybody wants to take it back
Speaker 2: once it's.
Speaker 3: Done, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And he has a luxury of being able to survive this,
Speaker 2: but more portly, I don't think he's thinking about what
Speaker 2: he is the corporate Joe, uh w what's what he's
Speaker 2: actually his actions is costing him like real shit. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying they gonna do this, but if they wanted to,
Speaker 2: man companies put language in the contract.
Speaker 3: For shit like this.
Speaker 2: This is how they I didn't even say leverage you,
Speaker 2: but this is how well. It's one thing John needs
Speaker 2: to understand. Bro, you don't get to pick and choose
Speaker 2: when you wanna be a professional, young fellah. You took
Speaker 2: the When you took the hat and you put it on,
Speaker 2: and you stamped and and he shook up.
Speaker 3: And he gripped you.
Speaker 2: That was your that was your firm, That was your
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the word is, but y'all
Speaker 2: knowing in my mouth, y'all know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: That was him saying to the world that, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: ready for this step and taking in that step as
Speaker 2: a professional. You gotta do better. You gotta put yourself
Speaker 2: around better to do better. But more importantly, I think
Speaker 2: the lead needs to take this example and set up
Speaker 2: the ambastionionorship around the league universally. And it needs to
Speaker 2: be European player. I can come in here and talk
Speaker 2: to other European players and get script. It needs to
Speaker 2: be players that come in here. They used to have
Speaker 2: a great program and then I don't know if the
Speaker 2: league still has it, but we used to have this
Speaker 2: two guys who should come in and talk. It used
Speaker 2: to be my favorite program used to be Dirk and yeah,
Speaker 2: what's what's up? Why am I going blank on the
Speaker 2: other cat's name?
Speaker 1: Dirkin?
Speaker 2: It's not missed, right, big fella, big father, I'm going
Speaker 2: blank on the names. But these two cats, these two
Speaker 2: cats will come in they saying, they saying all type
Speaker 2: of ship they they talking how me and yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: And you know what, man, it was the most impactful conversation.
Speaker 2: And they weren't superstar.
Speaker 1: The best part of the meat was them, was them
Speaker 1: and everybody's pete.
Speaker 2: The league got so smart that they would give us,
Speaker 2: not to call it bullshit, but they would give us
Speaker 2: all the ship that we didn't want to be that
Speaker 2: for in the beginning, and kept them last. And guess
Speaker 2: what when they sat there, didn nobody move, did nobody
Speaker 2: get warned, did nobody eat?
Speaker 3: Man? When Dirk and man?
Speaker 2: Why am I going blank on? Now I'm going blank
Speaker 2: on these brothers. Now apologize these brothers. But these brothers
Speaker 2: helped a lot of motherfuckers. And now I was in
Speaker 2: the lead for twenty years, and these two did the
Speaker 2: program every goddamn time, every mother fucking time.
Speaker 1: They did it.
Speaker 2: They did it with passion, and they spoke to you
Speaker 2: like this. Now I don't know where they at. I
Speaker 2: know they got older twenty years. You know, they was
Speaker 2: already older. They was already there was already knucklehead older.
Speaker 2: But man, they were so much great inspiration from the
Speaker 2: script that you didn't have, So yeah, you was able
Speaker 2: to relate.
Speaker 1: You was able to relate to him because they would
Speaker 1: come in and they would tell you straight up how
Speaker 1: you would how you would be the approaching a day off,
Speaker 1: how you would be hang coming from being hungover, trying
Speaker 1: to come play like they would. They would break it
Speaker 1: down and say, were many segments of a pro. And
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, you get all this opportunity as a
Speaker 1: pro and you think you low doing that, but.
Speaker 2: You think he'll know what you're saying. He's speaking right,
Speaker 2: but he's speaking right at you like the gospel. But
Speaker 2: then he starts they start throwing scripts. Hey yeah, hey,
Speaker 2: do it like this, like this woo and if you
Speaker 2: don't have no big brother, let's just let's just be real.
Speaker 2: Nobody in Josh Camp has ever been here, so everybody
Speaker 2: that's talking is really their first time talking. It sound good,
Speaker 2: but ain't nobody had been through none of this, So
Speaker 2: you know what, it's time for some outside influence to
Speaker 2: be able to come in and just help. And I
Speaker 2: just hope that he seeks some some real help from
Speaker 2: someone that's been here and not so much of the
Speaker 2: generic pharmaceutical help that's been obliged to you. I hope
Speaker 2: actually a TA or an AI or mofucker who's been
Speaker 2: through this, bro. Man, that's why I say AI A man.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody AI t A. I'm thinking about, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about people that actually been through some shit
Speaker 2: and can actually give real script. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: So excuse me if I'm if I'm getting a little
Speaker 2: passionate shit. But man, I wish, I wish I'm fellow
Speaker 2: all the best man, I hoo adam silva doom. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know it's it's, man, I fucking hate this whole
Speaker 2: kind of the way it's gotta go or the way
Speaker 2: it's looking.
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, it'll be a.
Speaker 1: Hear hearing it, hearing hearing.
Speaker 3: It whole season like that's that's that's a lot.
Speaker 2: But I see what they're doing because he's trying to
Speaker 2: send a message to the rest of the league this
Speaker 2: ain't this ain't the move and we ain't cool with this.
Speaker 3: And then too, Bro, they're trying to they're trying to
Speaker 3: get in to him.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought and I thought he the face, Bro,
Speaker 1: he was the face, the new face, like he was
Speaker 1: the new face. He was the new face. I see
Speaker 1: these kids, they got you know what I'm saying, They
Speaker 1: got the you I'm sayings going with the color for everybody, everybody,
Speaker 1: and everybody doing this little dance right here.
Speaker 2: Everybody and in the fifty in the yard. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Body in the yard, like.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's where we at.
Speaker 1: It's where we at. You know.
Speaker 3: Steph Curry had.
Speaker 2: The light skin, curly ham, pretty eyes in It's the
Speaker 2: job nation now bro until us.
Speaker 1: And I think I think this summer gonna be a
Speaker 1: big summer for him.
Speaker 3: The mature watses.
Speaker 2: I think he grow up responsible, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Cause you know what, you're gonna have to have some
Speaker 2: backbone to take this forty real shit. M might up, Joe,
Speaker 2: You got to you got to have some real backbone
Speaker 2: and and you it's gonna be a process and you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to be you know, you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: be motivated, cause it's gonna be forty games that you
Speaker 2: got to sit on inside and just watch. And you
Speaker 2: gotta still be in shaping. You gotta as soon as
Speaker 2: it's forty old day, expecting you to come in here
Speaker 2: and then be able to go. So yeah, your whole
Speaker 2: process gotta be on another level. But I'm wishing your
Speaker 2: fella all the best, man, John. If you need us, man,
Speaker 2: reach out, man, have some money from your camp.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: It ain't nothing, man. We're all in this, bro. So
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, wish you and your family well,
Speaker 2: real shit.
Speaker 1: My dude, Man, I reach out to his dad every day. Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna I tell him. Hey, man, I'm in
Speaker 1: y'all corner. I'm around you know here. If you need me,
Speaker 1: call me. You know I've been through hey being c
Speaker 1: some of everything of what he trying to portray, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And it could get rough, man.
Speaker 2: And you know this's ain't it, bro. You know, work
Speaker 2: your ass off and get away from shit like this
Speaker 2: prom You know what I'm saying. You supposed to be
Speaker 2: Italy somewhere with the finest girl out here.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to be, you know, seeing how how long
Speaker 2: you can hold your breath in the Mediterranean and some shit.
Speaker 3: You know you're supposed to be.
Speaker 2: You know, you know you're supposed to have the three
Speaker 2: forty of us. You're supposed to have the four hundred
Speaker 2: foot out here. You're supposed to be living on the
Speaker 2: Mediterranean for like six days, going to you know, Monaco,
Speaker 2: to south of France or something. You're supposed to be
Speaker 2: having a firm crew underwater, like you know, shooting the
Speaker 2: you know shit underwater and chasing, fishing and grabbing on
Speaker 2: the turtles and ship.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: Bro, you need to come home at the ticket.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna show you how to live, show you
Speaker 3: how to live straight. I'm gonna show you how to
Speaker 3: do this real shit. They need it. Let's get to
Speaker 3: some game.
Speaker 2: Picture out the word skinny, goddamn it. Where is your
Speaker 2: take on the Heat and the Celtics game two?
Speaker 1: Mm? I think the Heat got a little banged up
Speaker 1: right now. Obviously, you know, tighter heroes out. But more
Speaker 1: so than anything, what concerns me about the series is,
Speaker 1: you know, Jason Tatum and consistency.
Speaker 3: You know, he have games where you know, he go one.
Speaker 1: For eight, that one for nine, the first half one
Speaker 1: for eleven, whatever the case may be, and those be
Speaker 1: the times that Jimmy Butler takes advantage of him. He's
Speaker 1: good at understanding the game and putting his foot down
Speaker 1: when they're lacking or they not giving it at all,
Speaker 1: showing that they have performances. And but one thing I
Speaker 1: can say with Marcus Spark got his hands full with
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Butler coming into the series, and one thing
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to do from being a defensive player,
Speaker 1: I think he got to take away that right hand.
Speaker 1: He gotta have Jimmy doing stuff going left. You know,
Speaker 1: you see a lot of those shots Jimmy Butler here
Speaker 1: he going right, getting to the line, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and getting offensive rebounds, post just out working everybody,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I think this is
Speaker 1: gonna be Marcus smart biggest challenge this year. Obviously, you
Speaker 1: know last year, this was last year's matchup, I believe,
Speaker 1: and uh you know that there was one shot away
Speaker 1: from yeah, from from getting to the final different, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So now this is a this
Speaker 1: is a new series. But I think that the pressure
Speaker 1: is pretty much on the Celtics. I think it's the
Speaker 1: pressure is just on them and uh, we see how
Speaker 1: it go, man. But I like, I like, I like
Speaker 1: how to the other supporting cast of Tatum, Jaylen Brown's.
Speaker 3: Being consistent, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Everybody they just was was down bad in the Philly
Speaker 1: series before they overcame that. And I think they got
Speaker 1: the momentum right now going on.
Speaker 2: You think they defend Home. They defend Home both games. Yeah,
Speaker 2: most definitely.
Speaker 1: Like I said, we could, we could have we could
Speaker 1: take away Jason Tatum's inconsistencies, you know, starting out in
Speaker 1: these series. I think I think they take care of
Speaker 1: business and go to Miami.
Speaker 2: Out of this whole series. Man, I actually think this
Speaker 2: series is going seven. And I say this because Miami
Speaker 2: is similar to how I'm looking at Denver Strauss, Vincent Kiler,
Speaker 2: Williams BAM's playing better, what's my man of Kyle Lowry's
Speaker 2: playing better? And then their effect on defense is like
Speaker 2: on another like they like, I actually thought that the
Speaker 2: Heat could beat the Knicks without Jimmy Butler. Jimmy remember
Speaker 2: Jimmy Mesrus ain't go. I think it was game two, man,
Speaker 2: he had a chance to win that game convincently, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But they got they got a tough system.
Speaker 2: I understanding how Eric exposed has them ready, he always
Speaker 2: has them teams ready, they always are able to go
Speaker 2: to another level. And yeah, that just concerns me, man.
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be seven games, and
Speaker 2: I think the levels. You know, anytime you beat a
Speaker 2: team and you got history of beating the team, or
Speaker 2: you've beaten them last year, Miami just looks different from
Speaker 2: last year. They look a lot more healthy, they look
Speaker 2: a lot more confident, and they have a little more
Speaker 2: supporting cast around Jimmy to help Jimmy. Now, Jimmy is
Speaker 2: just to me, man, it's been like the MVP of
Speaker 2: the whole fucking playoffs. No player has imposed his will
Speaker 2: greater on on serious than he has. And I think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a collective group. I just don't think
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart is gonna have the responsibility of Gardner. I
Speaker 2: think you put Jay Brown on. I think you throw
Speaker 2: a bunch of different things. Man, Malcolm, you throw Malcolm on,
Speaker 2: You're gonna You're gonna have to because Jimmy is one
Speaker 2: of these very smart not just offensive, but he's a
Speaker 2: very smart two way player his i Q and you
Speaker 2: know he doesn't mind exhausting the ball, but he don't
Speaker 2: mind giving up the ball too. I'm just I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm gassed. I'm gassed to see how his will is.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm eager to see how the Celtics are or
Speaker 2: I'm eager to see how the Celtics deal with Jimmy
Speaker 2: in that, you know, because because right now he's confident,
Speaker 2: and he's confident that he's out here just thinking he
Speaker 2: can do anything out here, you know what.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, And he's gardened. He's gardening.
Speaker 2: On another end, I think TAM's going to take it
Speaker 2: to another level. I think the Philly I think the
Speaker 2: Philly thing, the Philly series actually put him in positions
Speaker 2: to where he probably had to lock in or he
Speaker 2: probably had to go somewhere else when it came to man,
Speaker 2: the game's haeven fifty one, I'm not expecting him to
Speaker 2: have another fifty ball right out the gate, but to
Speaker 2: go there and be able to do that said a
Speaker 2: lot for him.
Speaker 1: I don't think he needs to be giving him a
Speaker 1: fifty neither, But I mean at halftime, you least should
Speaker 1: be having fifteen sixteen points.
Speaker 3: I mean, you think that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You think that, but double teams, how they guarden you.
Speaker 2: You know that shit ain't going there. How you doing otherwise?
Speaker 2: And what are you doing other You know, I'm more
Speaker 2: concerto he do a good job of that. I believe.
Speaker 2: I think he remound well. He gets off the ball when.
Speaker 3: He he's going to have to. That's what I'm saying
Speaker 3: in this series.
Speaker 1: Vincent efficiency of his field goal attempts, you gotta get
Speaker 1: some buckets. He gotta have that mentality. In no doubt,
Speaker 1: he's gotta be seeking and destroying when he get that ball.
Speaker 1: You know who's you got? Game two, Game two? Like
Speaker 1: you said, I see a seven game series, man on
Speaker 1: the simple strengths that Jimmy is a smart player. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need more out of Bawn, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? But I think I think Jimmy will is
Speaker 1: way out of one.
Speaker 3: Game two.
Speaker 2: You got the heat, I got the heat. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna take the
Speaker 2: seas Game two, and I think the Seeds protect home
Speaker 2: Game three, Nuggets at the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Hm hmm. Hostile environment for real hostile environment. Like I say, man,
Speaker 1: Bron put on Lebron to a whole different animal. But
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, though, I think I think Lebron has
Speaker 1: to beat Lebron when we come back home.
Speaker 3: You got the home crowd going.
Speaker 1: I see him imposing will defensively, you know, rebounding as well,
Speaker 1: one of those twenty point rebounding nights. Just doing whatever
Speaker 1: you gotta do to get the win. Tighten Lebron, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And we could he could feed
Speaker 1: off of Russell this time, because when Russell went home,
Speaker 1: you know, he's comfortable. Way different type players like he
Speaker 1: don't even like you could tell, like his energy that's fluent.
Speaker 3: Like the way he shoot. You get that they get
Speaker 3: to doing.
Speaker 1: The well, I don't know what they is, something in
Speaker 1: the veins. When they get to doing all, let the
Speaker 1: crowd behind them. I think that momentum shift them to
Speaker 1: go and pull out the wind. And uh, I think
Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets have a hard time, you know, just
Speaker 1: over the credit.
Speaker 2: So you got Lakers at home. I got Lakers at home.
Speaker 2: I got the Lakers at home too. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: I think they set the tone coming home and plus
Speaker 2: I think they get a game in Denver and carry
Speaker 2: that momentum back home. But yeah, at the Lakers winning
Speaker 2: that winning game three, let me ask you this, do
Speaker 2: Denver get a game in Lakers at any point in
Speaker 2: the series in l A.
Speaker 3: Hmm, you got it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, It's just like it's a lot
Speaker 1: of adjustments to be made, and that's.
Speaker 2: I have to say. You're a batman. I had to say, yes, Oh,
Speaker 2: you think Denver gets a game in l A. At
Speaker 2: some point Denver gets a game? You think LA gets
Speaker 2: a game in Denver? What about that point? It'd be
Speaker 2: two too.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying so, I'm just saying, we
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you're a batman, do you think
Speaker 2: l A gets a game in Denver at any point
Speaker 2: in the series.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm giving Denver the league going back
Speaker 3: to l A.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying to say, we three two going
Speaker 1: back to l A.
Speaker 3: Man's game. That's a game.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Bro gonna have to pull out, you
Speaker 1: have to pull it out games, just say yes or no, dude,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pull it out game.
Speaker 3: We have to assess all that.
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 3: You're a bad man, damn it, you're a beat man.
Speaker 3: Now you're a bet man. You're a bet man, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: do the Lakers at.
Speaker 2: Any point in this series, get a game in Denver,
Speaker 2: yes or no.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead, go out for my head, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, Man, I'm gonna have Denver win
Speaker 1: in this series.
Speaker 3: Damn, I'm gonna go ahead.
Speaker 1: You have you heard it?
Speaker 3: I'm going it's going seven but eight. Certify y'all heard
Speaker 3: it first taste.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you. I wanted to ask you
Speaker 2: on the court or in your perspective, how would you
Speaker 2: if you're Russell? How do you guard uh that one?
Speaker 3: Two? How do you guard the one too? Bro? Not
Speaker 3: only that, but how do you guard Murray? That's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And that's the thing Russell.
Speaker 1: Russell ain't never been in the position to be a
Speaker 1: defender like that. So you would have to put Stroda
Speaker 1: in that situation. And if I'm if I'm Stroda, I'm
Speaker 1: for sure I'm pushing up on all picking rolls.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. When Yokic's coming up, you're
Speaker 2: trapping them, you hards, showing them.
Speaker 3: With the pigs.
Speaker 1: Nowadays, Yeah, you're gonna have to You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: just be crowded space, crowded space because you gotta figure.
Speaker 1: They throwing it back to Yokics right to his left.
Speaker 2: He too dribble pull up, he fucking automatic fifteen seventeen Man, Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, but then you know, you come
Speaker 1: off the pick and roll with Jamal and he pulling
Speaker 1: up for three.
Speaker 3: You in that drop, but you're giving him, you're giving
Speaker 3: him that three.
Speaker 1: I mean, let Yogis keep cooking. Let Yokis keep cooking. Damn,
Speaker 1: I'd rather let Yogis keep cooking before he get to
Speaker 1: see because he gonna hurt you with them assists.
Speaker 3: That's what hurts you.
Speaker 1: Get he get to getting off and being able to
Speaker 1: get fourteen assists for twenty thirty points.
Speaker 3: Man almost had a twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that I think that hurts you.
Speaker 1: I think you just just let let Yogis get off
Speaker 1: and we're gonna show. We're gonna crawd the space on
Speaker 1: the three with with Jamal Murray and hey, throw it
Speaker 1: back to Yogics.
Speaker 3: Let him get off.
Speaker 2: He gonna yoga, So we're gonna trap Jamal, get it
Speaker 2: out of his hands, and Yoki's gonna.
Speaker 1: Cut lights lights. But that little show was that. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they call him that it's like a
Speaker 1: because they ain't up.
Speaker 3: They not up. They're definitely not up, and it's not
Speaker 3: even it's.
Speaker 2: Almost like a safety. So he don't turn the corner exactly.
Speaker 2: But by then he four five steps. That's like a
Speaker 2: that's like a seventeen. That's like a for the yokres
Speaker 2: go ahead. You're gonna have to make forty of them.
Speaker 1: Boy, that's I mean, if I'm if I'm coached, because
Speaker 1: you can't give it, you can't get hurt at all.
Speaker 3: Three angles.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sag this first, this first pickure, I'm gonna sack.
Speaker 1: Let Jamal Murray popular three. All right, now, I'm finna
Speaker 1: come up a little more. Now for the throw it
Speaker 1: back boom. Okay, now you ain't now you staying with yokis.
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna let me go to the layup.
Speaker 3: One of them. You gotta pick.
Speaker 2: You gotta take two of them away because you can
Speaker 2: take the turn. So don't turn the corner and then
Speaker 2: two man.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I actually think that if Denver supporting cast, don't. I
Speaker 2: don't think that if Joker has like a fifty sixty,
Speaker 2: he beats you. I think if you get if he
Speaker 2: has a super knight like that, and everybody else is
Speaker 2: two for twelve.
Speaker 3: They gotta create their own shot.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying is, I don't think by
Speaker 2: himself he beats you.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I think him and that supporting cast having twelve, fifteen, seventeen,
Speaker 2: twenty two, thirty one like that's too much.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. They ain't got nothing.
Speaker 1: They're getting everything at this.
Speaker 3: Point, and you know where they come from. They come
Speaker 3: from his assists, facts.
Speaker 1: He's getting everyone involved and he can go the whole
Speaker 1: game with and it ain't even just his past that
Speaker 1: makes the play. Sometimes it'd be the past to the past.
Speaker 1: He might come out swing swing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I got both of these series going seven, y'all. I'm
Speaker 3: I'm definitely in agreeance with you on that.
Speaker 1: And those are the picture of the Week eight